Why do you still support bitcoin?

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Anonymous Tue Mar 20 18:55:45 2018 No.8465127 [Reply] [Original]

Why do you still support bitcoin?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:02:56 2018 No.8465242 >>8465127 "possibly making the internet illegal in many countries!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:12:01 2018 No.8465426 File: 38 KB, 662x712, 1519193463426.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >print CP images and leave them in a public park >"Why do you still support parks, anon?"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:14:28 2018 No.8465472 This is the most desperate and aggressive FUD I’ve seen in weeks. They don’t realize they are making us all smarter with every stupid news release.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:15:53 2018 No.8465498 >>8465426 well, you don't go and copy these images and redistribute them. With cryptos, you would do exactly that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:17:24 2018 No.8465516 Good I hope they will finally ban this shitcoin soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:18:27 2018 No.8465535 >>8465127 nice just abused 100k

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:19:35 2018 No.8465556 File: 100 KB, 662x662, 1519193463427.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8465498 >send you a fax containing CP >"Why do you still support fax machines, anon? You're copying and reproducing CP!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:20:07 2018 No.8465561 >>8465127 t. 7.4k cuck wants back in

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:23:16 2018 No.8465623 >>8465556 shitcoin blockchain replicates itself onto your hdd and you replicate it onto other people using your shitcoin whether you like it or not you have to refax cp to someone else intentionally false equivalence

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:24:38 2018 No.8465649 >>8465127 Why are (((THEY))) trying so hard to bring down crypto /biz/? This is a 4 year old story and they SUDDENLY bring this out when crypto is starting to recover.

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:25:28 2018 No.8465664
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>>8465623
>go to fedex office copy machines and print hundreds of CP images
>"Why do you still support FedEx Office, anon? They're providing the means for people to reproduce CP!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:26:56 2018 No.8465694 >>8465649 bankers afraid of us. we will be their future slavers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:27:22 2018 No.8465700 >>8465664 >fedex employees call the cops >judge laughs at your stupidity

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:29:11 2018 No.8465736 How do you store image files in the blockchain?

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:30:00 2018 No.8465752
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>>8465700
>tattoo CP on my chest and rip my shirt off during the trial, revealing CP to the entire courtroom
>"Why do you still support courts, anon? They're a public forum for displaying CP!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:30:14 2018 No.8465754 >>8465736 base64 encoded files inside transaction messages

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:31:10 2018 No.8465773 >>8465472 somebody’s trying to short

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:44:32 2018 No.8465950 File: 64 KB, 1000x581, 1521333491575.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >not yet? >post more aggressive cp fud

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:44:48 2018 No.8465953 >>8465752 have fun in jail with a cp tattoo on your chest lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:45:33 2018 No.8465966 Weaponised cp was a mistake. Is there nothing or no one (((they))) can't take down with it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:47:03 2018 No.8465995 >>8465966 you won't be able to take down Putin with it. Russia would just claim it was a planet by the CIA and all the sheep would believe them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 19:47:33 2018 No.8466001 How can we protect our childrens? Pro tip: By shutting down BTC

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:03:15 2018 No.8466243 >>8465995 In you hypothetical situation ((they)) plant it on Putin, and people rightfully do not believe it. So how does that make them sheep ? Better example please...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:04:48 2018 No.8466274 >>8466243 what ifs Putin's cp and he just lies?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:06:52 2018 No.8466307 File: 32 KB, 576x576, rfr3ztt0zzny.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8465752 >Courtroom artist arrested for drawing CP during the trial

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:07:35 2018 No.8466314 >>8466274 Then you would be right, but the presumption is that cp is weaponised, and the prime condition for that would be that it is planted, so the hypothetical wouldn't be faithful to the presumption that btcp is weaponised

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:08:47 2018 No.8466328 >>8465995 Do you understand the history of the CIA? It's not unthinkable to believe the CIA would do that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:08:58 2018 No.8466334 >>8466314 yeah okay. Anyways, you can't take putin down with cp.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:09:25 2018 No.8466341 >>8465535 Under(You)ed

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:10:09 2018 No.8466352 Because everyone buying btc is a pedo How new are you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:12:07 2018 No.8466381 Who gives a fuck, no one fucking cares. Go back to plebbit you flaming faggot.

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:12:17 2018 No.8466386
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>>8465754
So you can put stuff in the bitcoin blockchain that has nothing to do with transacting bitcoin? How does that not throw red flags when they try to verify the transaction?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:12:43 2018 No.8466391 >>8465127 Because I want to make money

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:14:34 2018 No.8466418 >>8465127 I swear to god unless i'm in the wrong berenstain/berenstein universe I remember this being news...from like 2012.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:16:38 2018 No.8466439 File: 51 KB, 225x224, 1510540731067.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8466307 >Inventor of the cammera is arrested

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:17:00 2018 No.8466444

>>8465752
Do you actually not understand that with the way bitcoin works, the CP can't be removed from the blockchain or made inaccessible? Bitcoin was designed specifically to make it impossible to delete information from the blockchain, and there's no way it's going to change to make erasure possible. This isn't, "some illegal material was found on a system related to bitcoin". This is, "now and forever, all bitcoin transactions will involve illegal material".

It's over. Running a bitcoin node is illegal now. It's distribution of child pornography. They'd have to make a law specifically to legalize it, and that's not going to happen. The inevitable has come: an exploit of a design flaw has made it unusable, and now bitcoin will crash to $0.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:18:26 2018 No.8466463 >>8465752 This is spicy af

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:20:18 2018 No.8466499 >>8466418 It was, for some strange reason the news started running it again today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:21:28 2018 No.8466514 >>8466444 This shit is old news chuckles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:22:02 2018 No.8466524 >>8465127 Why do you still use the internet, Nigger?

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:22:02 2018 No.8466525

>>8466386
There's a comment section where you can add links and files.

If you insert something illegal into the blockchain then everyone who has a copy of it also have the dirty files on their drive.

In UK you would probably end up in a prison on Island of White next to their cosmodrome.

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:28:57 2018 No.8466635

>>8466514
Perhaps the potential for it is old news, but the reality of there being actual child pornography in the blockchain being brought to the attention of the public and governments is new. It might take a while for reality to hit, but bitcoin is crashing to $0.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:34:04 2018 No.8466707 Why should I care about this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:35:41 2018 No.8466727 >>8466444 or maybe criminalizing a string of digits isn't such a good idea

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:36:15 2018 No.8466734 >>8466635 How is this different from storing encrypted CP on the cloud

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:40:01 2018 No.8466778 >>8466444 Dubs followed by trips of truth Just sold 100k

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:40:39 2018 No.8466785

Does possession of a blockchain count as "possession of every possible image that could be derived from it"?

Probably not. To get the "file" or "image data" you need the Blockchain PLUS some 3rd party tool, which is not part of the core implementation of the BTC protocol.

If you've never used the tool, then there is no way you could produce the image

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:41:05 2018 No.8466792 File: 26 KB, 321x344, bcash blockchain image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bcash tx 9670267ba3e4cdd7a8413efbcbc84dbee8ec8c306146353e599bc406b9041ad8 pic related

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:41:16 2018 No.8466797

>>8466734
their argument will always be that they want a centralized figure who can unilaterally delete it to protect their poor sensibilities from child porn they couldn't see and supposedly didn't want to search for
which would destroy the entire purpose and all the advantages that cryptocurrency provides

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:42:14 2018 No.8466815

>>8466734
You can delete stuff from the cloud. As they say, "There is no cloud, it's just someone else's computer." Cloud computing is using someone else's computers, without getting too specific about exactly which ones or how many you're using (i.e. they can move data and computation processes around from server to server as necessary without bothering the customer about it, and have their whole network present itself as one big computer).

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:44:09 2018 No.8466840 >>8466635 >implyign the TLAs didn't put the pizza on there to begin with >implyign (((they))) aren't the ones selling and filming kids for lucrative untraceable shekels

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:46:55 2018 No.8466873 >>8466444 Yes, it is indeed over, retarded laws/courts will get a much needed shakedown at last.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:47:28 2018 No.8466883 >>8465127 i support freedom also i like child porn

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:49:01 2018 No.8466904 >>8466785 Can anyone walkthrought me about 3rd party software I need to upload my edgy images to an immutable blockchain by the way?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:51:45 2018 No.8466949 >>8465752 >>8465664 >>8465556 >>8465426 Fkn kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:07:33 2018 No.8467203 ban assault blockchains

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:10:02 2018 No.8467241 File: 43 KB, 468x468, 1519176281641.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8465127 How is there child abuse in mathmatical code? Someone is making up bullshit and doing desperate FUD attempts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:11:25 2018 No.8467265 >>8465535 joke thief hope you feel crunchy

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:13:29 2018 No.8467295 Rucking sheeple. So easily lead... Grow a set... U got bait, bait naited. Naited to the ends of the nait board.

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:15:39 2018 No.8467319
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>>8466727
>This
Only criminalize abuse of children. Not streams of numbers.
>Looking at images of children is abuse!
When courts or police view images is it child abuse... no
What if some civilian sees an image that had been left or dropped somewhere, then phones the police? is the child abuse.. no
What if they have any sexual gratification from the images... are kids being abused... no they are not. They were once by some one, but not at this time.
You could maybe argue the mind of the viewer is being abused by the imagination... but i'm not gonna go there...

Random numbers will eventually contain every image...
I mean library of Babel (https://babelia.libraryofbabel.info/imagesearch.cgi)) has every child porn image ever, and every child porn image that will ever come to be... so what?
Blockchain has (probably for keks) a sting of numbers that portray a crime that once took place... so what? (use as evidence if you catch the guy, sure! But thats as far as it SHOULD go)

How do you stop drugs/guns/whatever the fuck... you hit producers not consumers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:18:04 2018 No.8467353 File: 12 KB, 183x232, 1465138307292.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8466499 (((someone))) didn't like the outcome of the G20 meeting. This is going on at the same time as the whale pump and dump.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:19:07 2018 No.8467368 Another sheep posting paragraphs. Handle it or be the sheep

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:19:51 2018 No.8467378 >>8467241 Because some numbers are illegal as >>8466727 mentioned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number really makes you think

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:22:12 2018 No.8467407

>>8467241
Literally everything you've ever seen on a computer has been stored "in mathematical code". As soon as you have a way to choose between recording one of two things, and repeat that choice for as many times as you need, you can encode any data you like in it.

To encode a file into the blockchain, you make a wallet, put the necessary funds in, and then have it make the minimum allowable payment to made-up addresses, and then you don't use that wallet anymore. The made-up addresses contain the data you want to store, so if you look at the record of transactions from that wallet, and you line up the addresses it sent satoshis to, they spell out the data you wanted to store.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:22:38 2018 No.8467415 Sheep. Please do something or just realize that you are the Sheep... The perfect Sheep...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:27:03 2018 No.8467469 >>8467415 You do something faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:35:57 2018 No.8467621 >>8466444 4chan has been used to post cp for years >still popular >still worth lots

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:39:17 2018 No.8467670 >>8465649 They The burger people

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:43:30 2018 No.8467725 >>8465649 dumdum people do anything to get power and then anything to keep it, how is this mysterious

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:47:38 2018 No.8467780 >>8467621 pretty sure moot never really made any money on 4chan.. thats probably a bigger chunk of the reason he sold it than he will admit

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:49:45 2018 No.8467814 >>8467621 >4chan >worth lots

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:54:40 2018 No.8467896

>>8467621
Yes, cp has been posted on 4chan. And it gets deleted. Because it's possible to delete it, it's not illegal to run 4chan.

How hard can it be to grasp the core concept? The cp can't be deleted from the blockchain. You're not legally allowed to have child pornography on your computer. If you have the bitcoin blockchain on your computer, you have child pornography there. Ergo: it's illegal to run a bitcoin node.

If all of the bitcoin nodes must be off in the shady jurisdictions where there are no cp laws, then the things that make bitcoin desirable don't apply. You can't validate your own address balance, you have to trust some third party telling you what it is, which means you don't know if you got cheated when you buy bitcoin or accept it as payment. And you're technically doing business with cp distributors, which may also be illegal under the similar laws to the ones that make it a crime in your home jurisdiction to go abroad for child sex tourism.

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 21:58:02 2018 No.8467948

>>8467896
But it is links to cp. The end websites can be deleted.

THERE ARE FUCKING LINKS TO CP IN A LOT OF PLACES AND PEOPLE KNOW THAT AND IT IS WRONG. IT DOSN'T MEAN WE SHOULD SHUT DOWN THE INTERNET.

There are people trying to bring bitcoin down by making you all short. Don't let them win. Think for yourselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:00:02 2018 No.8467976 >>8465127 bullish news buy now or stay poor

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:03:11 2018 No.8468025 >>8467948 There are encoded images directly on the blockchain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:06:06 2018 No.8468058 >>8468025 And they were put there by the FBI, the world's largest distributor and largest owner of pizza. I'm going to start spreading FUD that this encoding was done using old silkroad coins the FBI owned.

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:06:28 2018 No.8468066

>>8467948
It's not just links to cp, you assclown. Where did you hear that stupid bullshit? There's at least one actual cp image file, embedded directly in the blockchain.

And even if were just links, you as a node operator don't have the power to delete what's being linked to, and it can still be illegal for you to keep and share those links, which you're doing by running a node.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:07:33 2018 No.8468093 >>8468058 Nobody will care. It doesn't matter. It only matters that the cp is there. >B-b-but the FBI put it there! It's still illegal to store and distribute it.

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:10:14 2018 No.8468127

>>8468066
Why are you not responding to these points?>>8466727
>>8467319
A random string of numbers should NOT be considered CP legally, even if it was put there intentionally to be so. If, hypothetically, by an astronomically low chance, a random string of numbers in the blockchain accidently represented CP in image format, should the entire blockchain be taken down?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:10:16 2018 No.8468129 >>8465127 If this isn't straight up FUD, with no actual news behind it, then I don't know what is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:11:01 2018 No.8468143 >>8468093 >It's still illegal to store and distribute it. >the FBI put it there! >still illegal to distribute it >normalfags in charge of caring about whether their gov't deals cp, sells kids and cocaine, entraps people and uses crypto to stash money

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:14:59 2018 No.8468204 LMAO at anyone that sold because of this, is liek you are asking to be ripped off. Anyone who sells because of this deserves to be poor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:16:56 2018 No.8468228 >>8468127 What points? That's not an argument, that's just someone saying they don't like the law.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:17:59 2018 No.8468253 >>8468204 If you invested in bitcoin, you deserve to be poor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:20:54 2018 No.8468302 File: 14 KB, 236x236, 1521399320433.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8468253 Butthurt poor nocoiner.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:25:06 2018 No.8468364 >>8468302 That's rich coming from a guy who bought high and is now trying to discourage others from selling while he tries to dump ahead of the herd, just hoping to minimize his loss.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:25:49 2018 No.8468372 >>8467378 That's interesting

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:27:30 2018 No.8468398 >>8465127 the fattest fud

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:28:08 2018 No.8468406 File: 957 KB, 1280x720, 1517231452931.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8468364 I bought bitcoin at least than 400 dollars, try again. :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:30:22 2018 No.8468429 >>8468364 LUL

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:42:53 2018 No.8468599 Wait a minute If this is possible, why not use the blockchain as a regular image host? Doesbase64 get prohibitively large?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:44:23 2018 No.8468618 >>8468599 Shit's expensive with current transaction fees.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:46:13 2018 No.8468639 >>8468618 Oh I don't mean on Bitcoin, I mean on its own coin (litecoin clone or something)

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:46:50 2018 No.8468643

>>8468406
Even if that's true, you're still going to end up with a net loss. :^)

Bitcoin's massively net-negative. It's not an investment in some business that produces real goods and services. It's speculation in something of no value, everyone just hoping to make their bad move good on the back of a bigger idiot, with big electric bills along the way. It's a gambling game with a huge house rake, that ends with the feds kicking down the door and nobody being able to cash in their chips.

It's a technologically-obfuscated ponzi scheme: the only gains are paid out of latecomers' investments. At best, sooner or later, the investors run out and the self-reinforcing upward trend becomes a self-reinforcing downward trend, and in the end it falls apart and most people lost money. But bitcoin was technically and legally dodgy enough that even hoping for that was overly optimistic. Rather, it's crashing hard and abruptly when people are warned to delete the blockchain off of their computers or be prosecuted as felons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:49:32 2018 No.8468669 >>8468639 LBRY is a thing

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:51:08 2018 No.8468697 how the hell would you even view any images in a blockchain? isn't it a giant multi-gig file full of stupid text gibberish? can't open that in an image viewer

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:52:37 2018 No.8468720

>>8468639
Crypto doesn't work without a lot of resources spent mining, or someone can swoop in with far more computer power and take over the network (for instance, replacing the stored data with malware), but having a lot of resources spent mining means that using it for storing data is expensive because many copies have to be stored.

Blockchains are a silly waste of resources. This whole thing has been about tricking stupid people out of their money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:52:51 2018 No.8468724 File: 15 KB, 420x420, 1519295268271.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8468643 ah, nice to see some FUDclassic™ mixed in with your NuFUD™

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:53:33 2018 No.8468731

>>8468643
I have had my bank accounts and paypal deactivated for political opinions, crypto is definitely useful for people like me.
>Well you shouldn't break laws then
If I'd actually broken laws they would have been able to convict me on something, instead I've just been a bad goy and bankers hate that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 22:55:07 2018 No.8468756 this proves Satoshi was actually a Jap

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:02:07 2018 No.8468842 >>8468731 >crypto is definitely useful for people like me ...and the Ponzi scheme was damn useful for Charles Ponzi and his earliest suckers, too. That doesn't make it fundamentally sound or good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:03:00 2018 No.8468855 >>8468842 You just ignored that its not a ponzi.

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:07:09 2018 No.8468903

man, though, they don't want to tear this shit down.
this is how people with moderate-to-high intelligence and no "ins" to success (family, institutional appeal, diversity) aspire to become successful
you get rid of crypto and what's left? retiring to mexico? profiteering off civil war 2? drugs? what the hell are they gonna do with all the 120-130 nerds with no options beyond "work in a human battery farm" once the dream is dead?

going long on fascism or communism or some syncretic combination of the two. also going long on getting the hell out of the country while I still can

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:10:18 2018 No.8468946

>>8468855
Why do you bitclowns have to speak such constant bullshit? Some how you can't say, "I don't agree that it's like a Ponzi scheme." and produce an argument, you just get in this groupthink mode of talking where what you want to believe is a hard, obvious fact, and anyone who seems not to agree must be a vicious liar.

This is how you reinforce each others' delusions, and close yourselves off in an echo chamber where you reject anyone speaking sense. This is how you end up with your life savings tied up in speculation that crashes to nothing if the government doesn't decide to tolerate child pornography.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:13:02 2018 No.8468987 >>8468946 No, I just gave you a clear use case and why its not merely speculative which inherently makes it not a ponzi. Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:14:04 2018 No.8469002
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>>8468643
First
>not being diversified

Second
>Rather, it's crashing hard and abruptly when people are warned to delete the blockchain off of their computers or be prosecuted as felons.

hahaha you have sub 80 IQ if you believe that is ever gonna happen in any country that is actually free. And even then it doesnt matter. Not even the chinese dictatorship could stop bitcoin. Thought luck fudder.

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:18:22 2018 No.8469063

>>8468903
>this is how people with moderate-to-high intelligence and no "ins" to success (family, institutional appeal, diversity) aspire to become successful
I hate to break it to you, but applying a buy-and-hold strategy to a non-productive, speculative investment isn't a product of "moderate-to-high intelligence" but of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

You were never going to all be big-winner buddies together, because it was an obvious negative sum game. The best you could ever hope for was for some of you to make off with part of the money others of you put in the pot (after a good chunk of it was eaten up by electric bills and computer sales, to say nothing of the time wasted).

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:24:06 2018 No.8469139

>>8468987
So if the investors in a Ponzi scheme get bearer bonds for their investment in the scheme, and they trade those bearer bonds as a currency, that makes it not a Ponzi scheme? Do you think nobody has ever run a Ponzi scheme with transferrable certificates rather than investors' names in an account ledger?

Bitcoin's value is merely speculative. Nothing people do based on that value can change its nature.

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:27:35 2018 No.8469178

>>8469063
the dunning kreuger meme is an off-ramp to mysticism
>even if you think you're competent, you're not, and you're too stupid to be told how incompetent you are, so you'd better just listen to our priests, who have knowledge that can't be conveyed or explained to you
"knowledge that can't be conveyed or explained" is the definition of a religious epiphany
you're asking us to believe that god chooses to speak to paul krugman and no one else

also, none of what you said has any bearing on my point, which is that it's bad to have large blocs of 120-130 people wandering around with no hope for the future

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:27:48 2018 No.8469185

>>8469139
Bitcoin's value is mostly speculative but it is inherently useful as a medium of relatively fast decentralized exchange online. It will never go to 0, the absolute worst case is going back to around $100 and I would still be able to use it just as easily then as I do now.

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:49:06 2018 No.8469473
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>>8469139
Mr. Takagi, I'm not really interested in your computer. But I need the code key, because I am interested in the $640 million in negotiable bearer bonds that you have locked in your vault. And the computer controls the vault.

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:50:06 2018 No.8469486

>>8469185
>it is inherently useful as a medium of relatively fast decentralized exchange online
Only as long as it has value for some other reason. You can't just decide you're going to use something as money and have it work, there has to be something behind it. Silver and gold are attractive and useful metals, people wanted them before they used them as money. Fiat currency is backed up by the force of government. People are ordered to pay court judgements in it, taxes and fees are collected in it. You can't escape it. Commonly in the past people used grain or oil as money (especially for local transactions when they ran out of coins): storable, homogenous food. Everybody needs to eat.

What makes bitcoin anything other than Monopoly money? Only the shared delusion that it's something more, based on the hope that a bigger idiot will come along and buy your bitcoin for more than you spent on it. That kind of value isn't stable.

>the absolute worst case is going back to around $100
Was it always worth at least $100? You might want to review your history, chum. It spent years under $100, and the need to transact wasn't any less during those years. The worst case has always been the discovery of some fundamental technical flaw which breaks the assumptions of how it works. The second worst case is for it to turn out to be illegal, which it just has, because of a fundamental technical flaw that lets people upload child porn and doesn't let anyone delete it. Then there was the inevitability that more and more people would come to understand what's going on well enough to realize there's nothing special about bitcoin, that any number of cryptocoins can be started, so it's just more Monopoly money that anyone can print more of.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:51:13 2018 No.8469499 File: 37 KB, 761x727, 27857893_10156034010529707_7054810963451615294_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8468946 >I'm too old to understand what cryptocurrency is, it must be a scam! Fixed.

Anonymous Tue Mar 20 23:52:20 2018 No.8469516

>>8469486
>Only as long as it has value for some other reason. You can't just decide you're going to use something as money and have it work, there has to be something behind it.
Energy.
>Was it always worth at least $100
Irrelevant, the amount of people reliant now has increased multiple fold since then as financial institutions have cracked down on us harder.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:01:27 2018 No.8469664

>>8465127
It requires specialized software that isn't part of the Bitcoin protocol to decrypt the CP links/images from the blockchain. Therefore, Bitcoin users aren't responsible for encrypted CP being stored in the blockchain, because by that logic ISPs are responsible for people sending encrypted CP through the internet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:01:47 2018 No.8469670 Have work tomorrow and need to get some sleep so won't be able to respond to any further replies.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:02:19 2018 No.8469681

>>8469178
>the dunning kreuger meme is an off-ramp to mysticism
Or maybe it's someone hinting that you should look harder for problems in your own reasoning.

>it's bad to have large blocs of 120-130 people wandering around with no hope for the future
It's bad to have large numbers of young men wasting their time and energy, and squandering their life's starting capital, on stupid gambling games. The real world's not so hopeless and devoid of opportunities that it's better to retreat into a fantasy.

>>8469516
>>Only as long as it has value for some other reason. You can't just decide you're going to use something as money and have it work, there has to be something behind it.
>Energy.
That's a cost to transact, not a value you can extract from it. All the more reason for it to fall to zero.

>the amount of people reliant now has increased multiple fold
The people reliant on it as a medium of exchange aren't the ones who keep the value up, they're just taking advantage of that fact.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:05:17 2018 No.8469722 >>8465752 >Have CP printed on birthday cakes >Why do still support births????? >And cake???

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:05:46 2018 No.8469730

>>8469664
It's not encrypted, just encoded. This argument won't fly in court.

The JPEG specification isn't part of the HTTP protocol, so does that mean it's okay to store and distribute child porn on your web server, since the server itself can't display them without separate specialized software (a web browser)?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:07:18 2018 No.8469748 You got to hand it to them. This is a pretty creative way to get Bitcoin banned.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:07:33 2018 No.8469753

>>8469681
analyzing your own reasoning is one thing, trying to gaslight people into endlessly second-guessing themselves with a meme argument that has no sanity-checking because you don't like their politics is another

and maybe they wouldn't be if you had something else to offer them that wasn't jesus or intersectional communism or intersectional communist jesus

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:07:36 2018 No.8469755 File: 1.81 MB, 341x376, merchant.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8465649

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:12:07 2018 No.8469820

>>8469486
>people didn't want BTC before it had value
>people don't largely buy metals as a speculative hedge against usd
>the advantages of a digitally exchangable, immutable, globally fair currency don't outweigh that of USD for foreign nations
Just buy some BTC and stop fudding

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:14:33 2018 No.8469841 i only like ethereum becouse of the growing crypto game market where you win 10%-25% with a few clicks like on lastflipwins.co

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:17:25 2018 No.8469875 Child porn everywhere on internet. Why do you still use internet?

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:18:11 2018 No.8469882

>>8469730
Images are split into dozens or hundreds of P2PKH or P2X fields (depending on what the tool chose to use), which aren't meant to store images or data at all, they're fields for hash addresses.

In order to get the image you would need to know which address contained the data, which fields were used by the tool, and which encoding algorithm was used before the image was split up.

There's no way for anyone to accidentally stumble upon CP. They would need to either use the tool or figure out the proper algorithm, then use it on the transaction that contained the image (or they would need to try every single transaction, then check each time to see if a valid image was produced).

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:21:25 2018 No.8469926
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>>8466444
Trips of lies. You fuck ass nocoiners tickle me to death. Keep hating bitch while I'm steady getting rich. More fud brings sweeter dips. The more I accumulate the madder you stay so stay extra assblasted.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:23:18 2018 No.8469958

>>8469753
>dunning-kruger
>a meme argument
Ugh... you're one of these guys who calls it an "ad hominem fallacy" whenever someone insults you, aren't you? The dunning-kruger crack wasn't an argument, it was an assessment, a position.

I've made my arguments about bitcoin elsewhere. They don't depend on my opinion of you, personally. If you want me to provide an argument for why you're someone who thinks he's smarter than he is, this is a good example of it: you're apparently not intellectually equipped to distinguish a position or opinion from an argument without hand-holding.

So don't fucking tell me I'm "gaslighting" you when I say you're not as clever as you think you are.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:26:11 2018 No.8470008

>>8469882
All of these arguments still apply to a web server hosting a child pornography JPEG. The cp was found in the blockchain by researchers who didn't know it was there because the methods for uploading and decoding are publicly known, and therefore software exists for both.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:27:05 2018 No.8470020 >>8465127 >Media are reaching to these levels to destroy crypto on behalf of their banker friends. Its laughable really. Next they will be linking it to Hitler.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:32:56 2018 No.8470112 >>8470020 If someone hasn't put some holocaust denial in the blockchain, you can bet they will sooner or later. That would make it illegal in Germany and probably some other countries, if the cp wasn't enough.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:35:25 2018 No.8470159 >>8466444 Yes, let us get rid of the world wide web since there will always be a node that provides CP in it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:37:22 2018 No.8470194 >>8470008 It's a pretty weak argument though, and I highly doubt any government will take any action. If anything, them taking action would only help bitcoin in the long run since that would force Bitcoin to develop more in built node privacy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:38:00 2018 No.8470200 >>8470159 And let us never call out the FBI for their constant failure to catch the producers of cp even though they are essentially giving them all the evidence they need to catch them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:39:01 2018 No.8470217 Shill > just after g20

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:39:23 2018 No.8470222 >>8469926 How'd you do that in the bear market mate?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:41:37 2018 No.8470249 >>8465426 Go to Park, destroy Images, done. Ok Anon, how try delete that cp in teh blockchains

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:42:14 2018 No.8470255 >>8470159 You can delete CP on the web you cannot delete it on a blockchain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:43:24 2018 No.8470275 File: 327 KB, 900x600, D7E628C1-D730-4B35-A37F-9DE7C5204CC0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8470020 will be? bruh where have you been

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:44:19 2018 No.8470284 >>8470249 This doesn't delet the computer file they were originally printed from

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:44:35 2018 No.8470289 >>8469958 adhoms are real. calling someone a fat neckbeard might win you forum cred but it is still an adhom.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:46:57 2018 No.8470309

>>8470159
Are you fucking with me, or do you actually think that's an appropriate analogy? With Bitcoin, EVERY full-fledged node stores the whole blockchain on it, including the cp. You can't participate without storing or receiving the cp.

The WWW is just a network of computers running HTTP servers. You don't have to store, receive, or distribute cp to participate. If you become aware of a site serving cp, and you don't go to it, you're not involved with it in any way. You're not storing the cp yourself, you're not receiving it, you're not distributing it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:48:50 2018 No.8470322 >>8470222 Believing in this shit enough to ignore faggots like >>8470309 and buying every dip like mad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:49:35 2018 No.8470331 >>8470322 But bitcoin didn't increase? Did you long on margin or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:50:02 2018 No.8470339 Quick some write Fuck Trump on the blockchain. If they try to shut down Bitcoin it will prove Trump is a fascist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:50:42 2018 No.8470345 >>8465127 How do people even do this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:51:38 2018 No.8470357 >>8470331 True enough. Without derailing the thread, I'm a bitcoin maximalist so I buy alts dips with the goal of flipping back to bitcoin on the bounce. So, no, I didn't buy bitcoin dips, I just used dips in other coins to accumulate more bitcoin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:53:23 2018 No.8470388 File: 277 KB, 847x1024, Screenshot_20180307-213109.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Support XMR instead

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 00:59:26 2018 No.8470454 wow FUD from 2013. Someone is desperate. WE are definitely going back up now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:01:33 2018 No.8470489 >>8468946 >Why do you bitclowns Hahha Jeff, please do not shill outside of office hours kthxbai

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:02:08 2018 No.8470495 >>8470388 you just gave a reason not to support it you fucking dimwit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:03:55 2018 No.8470519 File: 89 KB, 600x600, 1519859236601.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8465127 Never have Never will I only buy ETH in the downward dog position for the sole purpose purchasing shitcoins in a like-kind exchange

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:06:27 2018 No.8470547

>>8470289
An ad hominem fallacy isn't just any insult, it's a logical argument that a statement is known to be false because of the character of the person who made the statement. A fallacy is bad reasoning, not bad manners. Insults are not generally ad hominems, though ad hominems generally include insults.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:09:23 2018 No.8470586

>>8470357
Don't forget to pay your capital gains taxes. Every time you trade one coin for another, that's legally equivalent to selling for cash and buying with cash, and if the value when you traded it is more than the money you spent for it, that's a taxable capital gain made at the time of the trade.

Hope you didn't leave that off your taxes last year. That's tax fraud, you know. It's a felony.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:09:53 2018 No.8470594 >>8465127 >child abuse imagery found on the internet >child abuse imagery found in the United States >child abuse imagery found on Earth shit, 3 things I have to abandon now!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:11:26 2018 No.8470606 File: 64 KB, 640x480, 1503715418296.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8470586 >Don't forget to pay your taxes! >Shills like me need government money to eat!

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:12:43 2018 No.8470627

>>8467378
this really brings up a lot of problems doesnt it? if you have a function hex() that converts its arguments to its hexadecimal equivalent, then presumably hex(child_porn.jpg) would be an illegal number. But then, wouldnt hex(child_porn.jpg)*2 also be illegal, because you would only need to tell someone to halve the result to get the initial back? by that logic then, hex(child_porn.jpg)*x for all x in the set of rational numbers would also be illegal - because just divide by x to obtain the initial number. so doesnt this mean that every rational number is then illegal, and the only legal numbers are the transcendentals (pi, e, etc)?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:21:29 2018 No.8470742 >>8470627 >If hex(child_porn.jpg) is illegal, then isn't 1 illegal because 1*hex(child_porn.jpg) is illegal, so you can generate it from that? No. That's dumb.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:23:27 2018 No.8470775 >>8470742 >No. That's dumb. As are most of the things you have said in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:23:38 2018 No.8470781 >>8470547 calling someone a fat retarded neckbeard and then pretending like you're not arguing against them by doing that is cheap af

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:25:16 2018 No.8470806 Very bullish news. Thanks OP

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:25:59 2018 No.8470811 File: 24 KB, 396x396, blackthinkingguy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can't send CP over a network that only records the bare minimum amount of data, aka NANO.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:27:23 2018 No.8470827 >>8470781 Other people can distinguish between personal comments and logical arguments. How do your reconcile your inability to do so with your high opinion of your own intelligence?

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:27:55 2018 No.8470837
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Daily reminder that OP sold the dip and is now suicidal looking for any kind of FUD that could drop the price. He is insanely enough to think that he matters in the market if he spends all day spamming 4chan with this shit:

>>8459850

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:29:09 2018 No.8470849 >>8470627 there’s a shitload of ChildPorn hidden in PI and e as well if you search long enough. Math has always been a field for rich Daddys with big dicks that like to fuck the shit out of kids.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:29:28 2018 No.8470854

>>8470742
it is dumb, and that's my point.. an analogy for it is that it is just as illegal to have an encrypted zip file with illegal files in it as it is to have the illegal files themselves - however the encrypted zip files are useless unless you have the right keys to decrypt them. because there exists infinite mappings from any rational number to any other rational number, then because any number can be mapped to hex(child_porn.jpg), then shouldnt any rational number also be illegal? I know the conclusion is stupid, but i don't really see any holes in the logic..

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:31:29 2018 No.8470881

>>8469486
>>>Only as long as it has value for some other reason. You can't just decide you're going to use something as money and have it work, there has to be something behind it.

You are not understanding that fact that fiat is nothing more than a psychological construct that we heavily project on. The only reason why Crypto has value is because my neighbors just simply believe in it and they believe in it because I simply believe in it. This is no fucking difference from 1400s east Africa using shells from the beach as a currency. No different.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:32:54 2018 No.8470899 File: 206 KB, 1455x1184, usury.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8470881 Fiat is a widespread hallucination.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:34:00 2018 No.8470910

>>8470881
>>Fiat currency is backed up by the force of government. People are ordered to pay court judgements in it, taxes and fees are collected in it. You can't escape it.
>You are not understanding that fact that fiat is nothing more than a psychological construct that we heavily project on.
You are not reading posts before you reply to them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:35:05 2018 No.8470917 File: 227 KB, 1172x1416, 1483833613079.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8470586 >muh taxes Yeah, just pay and that's it. Like a hundred million everybody elses. >Reaching for fud this weak >This buttmad

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:36:38 2018 No.8470939

>>8470910
>Fiat currency is backed up by the force of government
We can tell you're a shill because somehow you believe the usd and its government is going to be a long term hold and not a rapidly descending piece of shit that is failing and has been for a long time. As is its government.

Man you feds are so getting a pay cut when the oil is not sold in the USD at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:37:23 2018 No.8470947 >>8470827 calling someone bad is a technique for implying that what they're saying is invalid without outright stating it

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:39:17 2018 No.8470976

>>8470881
>This is no fucking difference from 1400s east Africa using shells from the beach as a currency.
The local Africans valued those shells as decorations before they used them as money. It's just like gold: the decorative value came first, and the monetary value was derived from that.

You can't wear bitcoins in your hair. So yes, there's a difference.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:46:00 2018 No.8471053 File: 23 KB, 645x729, 1516063930561.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8470976 crickets

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:46:04 2018 No.8471055

>>8468731
its true, especially right wing activists get ass raped tremendously in Western Europe. I see this very often that they get their income shutdown (patreon,paypal). if you’re not pro refugee enrichment in europe (((they))) will cut you off from the money system.

crypto has a clear nazi use case.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:46:18 2018 No.8471058

>>8470917
That's not FUD, that's just a reminder not to trade crypto without considering the tax consequences. You don't have to convert to real money to make a capital gain in the eyes of the law.

>>8470939
>somehow you believe the usd and its government is going to be a long term hold and not a rapidly descending piece of shit that is failing and has been for a long time
I didn't say it's a "long term hold", I said "you can't escape it", and that's the truth. When you get taxed, it's in fiat money. When you get sued and lose, you have to pay in fiat money. Therefore, everybody wants fiat money all the time, everyone fights to have it, and to have ways to get more of it in the future.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:50:44 2018 No.8471104 How the fuck are they doing this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:51:18 2018 No.8471112 >>8471058 >I said "you can't escape it Enjoy staying inside the gates of rome burning, some of us have places to go

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:58:52 2018 No.8471193 >>8466439 shit isn't that img from isis blowing somebody's head lmfao

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:59:26 2018 No.8471198

>>8471053
You seriously don't understand shell money? Think about pearls. We don't currently use them as money, but they're expensive, right? We value them highly, despite the fact that they're not money. And they come from shellfish. If we lacked other forms of currency, you probably wouldn't have a hard time spending pearls, someone would want them.

Cowry shells were relatively rare. They were admired as beautiful objects, and worn as beads, like pearls. They were scarce enough that people couldn't have as many as they wanted, like pearls (though less scarce). They were valuable before they were money, and that's why they became money. People didn't just decide they needed money and picked some random object.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 01:59:57 2018 No.8471204 >>8465127 Where can I do some scientific research on the subject. Any link to blockchain.info?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:00:44 2018 No.8471219 >>8471112 >some of us have places to go Federal prison for tax fraud? To the homeless shelter after the big crash? Back to mom's basement?

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:02:08 2018 No.8471237

anyone who wants to kill BTC has just to upload 40-50 hardcore Childporn pictures on the chain and then spread the links on how to decode that.

Costs maybe like 1000,- USD in fee’s but if BCashies decide to actually pull something like that off its RIP for Bitcoin.

Law Enforcement may turn a dead eye on 2-3 pedo pics as it’s right now. But as soon as there’s a bigger amount of valid child porn they are literally forced shut it down.

Just imagine if one crazy persons puts in the fee’s of like 10.000,- USD and uploads a couple of hundreds Child Porn Pictures. Not alone law enforcement will need to shut it down but the reputation of Bitcoin will be MASSACRED by the media. It’s over once someone with a couple thousands and bad intentions decides to do it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:03:14 2018 No.8471245 >>8471058 >Pay your taxes or muh felony Shrouding faggot negativity in common knowledge is fud. Here's some for you in return. Try not to slit your throat shaving tomorrow. wouldn't want you to choke to death on your own blood.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:03:26 2018 No.8471248 >>8471237 What prevents anyone from doing this to any blockchain?

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:07:33 2018 No.8471282

>>8471219
If you really think the US is going to last another 25-50 years I have some bad news for you...

The point is, kikefedslut, the USD is failing because the US is failing. This is around the time when people are getting out. Hell the super rich are buying bunkers for the next nuclear apocalypse. The US is on a downtrend and it will not recover. The dollar isn't worth shit. It isn't being used to trade oil as much as it used to be. Now is around the time when the US gov't starts a desperation war, trade or otherwise.

You don't understand crypto if you don't understand it is a means to escape fiat. Enjoy being a statecuck.
Most people here shouldn't be worried about the IRS because by the time they settle down, with how young this board is, the IRS will likely not be a thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:08:54 2018 No.8471295 >>8465127 Stop supporting this FUD campaign

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:10:06 2018 No.8471308 >>8471248 Blockchains that aren't complete fuck-ups don't let you append arbitrary data to a transaction.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:11:20 2018 No.8471323 File: 55 KB, 500x536, operation-northwoods-memo3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8471237 you sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:11:53 2018 No.8471328

>>8471248
1. its costly in fee’s to store pictures
2. first you would need to get in possession of hardcore childporn pictures, which is not easy

the larger bitcoin grows the small likelihoods of 1&2 (someone pays the price & has those pics) grow larger and larger.

it’s a matter of time some lunatic decides to do that.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:12:17 2018 No.8471331

I became aware of this a couple hours ago and have been thinking.

Jews doing their thing? Maybe.
Bankers doing their thing? Maybe.
Elites doing their thing? Maybe.
Governments doing their thing? Maybe.

Maybe not, that would have been too easy.

Then it became obvious - people/miners running full nodes are fucked and 99% of them will stop.

Asked myself: how do child abuse/porn laws vary in different countries?

USA you're fucked. Obviously.
Canade you're fucked. Obviously.
UK, so on and so forth, you're fucked. Obviously.

WHAT ABOUT FUCKING CHINA? Go look at their laws and help me out.

Am I understanding their laws correctly that miners with full nodes are not at risk given China's laws?

FUCKING CONSPIRACY MY FELLOW ANON's. All miners except in China BTFO.

GUESS WHO WILL HAVE ALL THE HASH POWER? BCH vs BTC ring a bell?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:12:31 2018 No.8471334 >>8471308 That's not how it was done. It's encoded in the addresses of recipients, by making a lot of minimum-value transactions to made-up addresses.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:15:15 2018 No.8471370 File: 679 KB, 640x1136, 822212B6-651F-4689-B84F-F9111323130B.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8471323 you could upload CP RIGHT THIS MOMENT. See pic attached. That’s someone who stored a pic on-chain just a couple hours ago.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:15:33 2018 No.8471375

>>8471331
>GUESS WHO WILL HAVE ALL THE HASH POWER?
Guess how much it will matter once nobody in the first world will give fiat money for bitcoin or accept bitcoin in place of fiat money, because they can't run nodes to even verify their payments received.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:17:50 2018 No.8471397 File: 12 KB, 258x245, pepe_laugh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8471334 What if someone encoded CP into their DNA?

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:19:43 2018 No.8471420

>>8471308
Bitcoin doesn't allow arbitrary data to be attached. What was done was an image was encoded to a base58 string, then split up into dozens/hundreds of smaller portions. Then a small amount was sent to each of those addresses in a single transaction.

To anyone else, it just looks like a normal transaction with a bunch of random addresses. Some of those addresses may even be valid addresses that people own by chance.

It's only by using the software to assemble those various addresses then reverse encode the base58 string can an image or other data be created.

It's basically a hacky way to add data to the bitcoin blockchain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:22:13 2018 No.8471445 >>8471397 CP is in all of our DNA. The complete recipe to make naked children, genitals and all.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:23:37 2018 No.8471456

Fiat is failing retard. That's like saying no one will accept dollars because they are used to finance wars, drug smuggling, and terrorism.

If I had a time machine, I would zap you back to my relatives who touch for the Reich and tell them to gas you for being such a retarded human being.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:25:01 2018 No.8471473 >>8471456 >touch for the Reich Is that a German idiom?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:26:07 2018 No.8471481 >>8471370 Fuck, that was me lol. And that's Bitcoin Cash chain, but anyways, it's almost the same shit.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:30:50 2018 No.8471532

>>8471420
Don't think it's done like that
>The blockchain is the open-source, distributed ledger that records every bitcoin transaction, but can also store small bits of non-financial data. This data is typically notes about the trade of bitcoin, recording what it was for or other metadata. But it can also be used to store links and files.
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/19893/how-to-send-bitcoin-with-a-message-attached

Also don't need to waste btc sending to address you don't own.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:32:41 2018 No.8471557

>>8471532
It's done the way he said. I sent the picute below posted by anon. Check the block:

https://bitcoincash.blockexplorer.com/tx/237b1e597585b77bac13099ede10168171807959ed7d802b4ae271fed091b108

Then click "show more" and see the amount of outputs I used to send the image.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:38:28 2018 No.8471611

>>8471532
Straight from crypto-graffiti website:

"Protocol Specification

Each Bitcoin transaction contains a number of output addresses. Normally we see these addresses in their Base58 format. However, in essence they are all just 20-byte binary strings. To save a file on the block chain, it should be divided into 20-byte chunks (adding zeroes to the end of the last chunk if needed). Then, to indicate the end-of-file, one must append the RIPEMD-160 hash of the original file to the list of file chunks. Optionally, one could append a textual comment to the block chain file (right after the hash). The comment should be in UTF-8 encoding and similarly to the file, the comment should be divided into 20-byte chunks. However, the comment does not have to end with its hash. We then concatenate the file chunks, file hash and comment chunks into one array. All of the chunks must then be converted to Base58 format. Finally, a normal Bitcoin transaction has to be made, sending the smallest possible amount of bitcoins to each of the Bitcoin addresses in that array.

Warning! Bitcoin Core wallet might not allow duplicate output addresses in its createrawtransaction RPC. A workaround for this is to apply the named remote procedure on a list of unique addresses at first. Then, after receiving the hex string of the raw transaction, one should search and replace those unique addresses with the intended and possibly duplicate transaction outputs."

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:42:12 2018 No.8471632 File: 36 KB, 720x503, _20171011_234145.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8471481 You sick son of a bitch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:44:36 2018 No.8471651 >>8471632 Why anon? It's a cute picture for my gf.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:44:37 2018 No.8471652 File: 226 KB, 394x397, uhohpepe.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8471445 B-big if true...

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:46:23 2018 No.8471660 >>8465127 HM GOOD THING THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER CRYPOCURRENCIES HUH MAYBE WE SHOULD FORK BITCOIN AND LET IT FINALLY DIE

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:48:01 2018 No.8471667 File: 281 KB, 1024x768, 1521321363891.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8471058 Every crypto trade is tax extempt in Germany >Feelsgoodman.jpg

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 02:48:24 2018 No.8471669 >>8471660 You can do this with literally any crypto.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 03:27:33 2018 No.8471997 >>8466904 Just look up how jpeg encoding works, except instead of binary, you'll want to use a more concise base like 64. Then just make transactions on the blockchain with the encoded string in the data field.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 03:36:09 2018 No.8472071

So I've gone through all of cryptograffiti.info. There's no CP on it.

So either the CP mentioned by articles was posted using another encoding algorithm that cryptograffiti doesn't use, or cryptograffiti has decided to ban those images from appearing on their site.

In either case, it seems pretty hard for anyone to just stumble upon CP on the bitcoin blockchain accidentally. You need a specialized program that the images were originally encoded with, then you need to traverse the entire blockchain, or know exactly which transactions to look for.

All in all, this FUD is pretty weak.

>>8471997
Most addresses are in base58 which exclude: 0, O, I, l, +, /

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 03:41:54 2018 No.8472127 >>8468903 I agree that if they take down crypto, there's going to be a revolution. Too many young men have had a taste of freedom to ever go back to being slaves.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 04:19:03 2018 No.8472502 >>8471237 "Law Enforcement will willingly make a laughing stock of itself by forbidding people to use bitcoin and not able to enforce it's demands on anyone" lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 05:53:16 2018 No.8473238 File: 912 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20180321-115148.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] normies like your shit, keep it up

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 07:33:34 2018 No.8474138 File: 88 KB, 680x471, 1478781209556998695424.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 07:35:52 2018 No.8474161 >>8465472 You'd think so but either the audience is infinitely stupid or journalists are (or both). I've been following this shit since 2016 and retarded fud like the op just doesn't ever stop.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 08:13:58 2018 No.8474572 File: 72 KB, 604x516, 1513044631676.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8473238 mommy! my posts are on reddit!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 08:20:18 2018 No.8474644 File: 106 KB, 966x724, 1456700758595.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >CP becomes legal due to crypto so Vitalik was right all along

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 08:47:24 2018 No.8474943 >>8465127 This is the most degenerate thing I ever red in internet

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 08:52:34 2018 No.8474981 >>8465127 So, t-this is the true power of pajeetistan...

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 08:52:57 2018 No.8474982 >>8465127 Thanks for poisoning the well, (((FBI)))

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:17:00 2018 No.8475248 >>8465127 Could this happen to Monero? Is Monero now superior?

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:19:16 2018 No.8475274

https://etherscan.io/address/0xcf398a8363fda31ef003ccbbb9ff66f9533f279f

This guy has spent 8.5 ether over the last 150 days in transaction fees sending 0 ETH transactions to himself with 0.0004744 TX fee and input data starting with CP110500 in ASCII on every transaction. Wanna crack his code? while I open my x100 short on ETH.

Rest assured that any blockchain that doesn't protect it's metadata will have CP poisoning now.
Wouldn't even be surprised if government or banks that want crypto dead would do this.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:21:02 2018 No.8475300

Uh, guys, we've all got data capable of being used to create an illegal image stored in our balls. Yes, you possess human DNA coding, which is suitable for creating a baby human which could then be illegally viewed by other humans. Just existing is enough to run foul of the law, but certainly we should avoid "transmitting" our genetic code to anyone else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:21:26 2018 No.8475309 >>8475248 Ledger is not public, you wouldn't know. Anyway it was a very stupid idea to do some illegal activities on a public ledger, now everyone can see the address and get to the source.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:23:54 2018 No.8475341 >>8465516 Cause then my own shit coin will be worth more. We lambos now

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:29:29 2018 No.8475415 File: 3.49 MB, 554x360, 20180321_092828.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8471237 Adiós

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:31:31 2018 No.8475445 >>8471237 Haven't even thought about this attack before honestly. I can't think of any solutions either. Glad I have Monero.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:41:55 2018 No.8475548 >>8471237 BCash being a fork of BTC, don't they have the same transactions with the CP pics and the same design flaw? Only crypto that are safe right now are stealth ones like Monero, Bytecoin, Turtlecoin, etc...

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:43:14 2018 No.8475566 >>8475548 Yes they do. And any crypto could have them. Not feel safe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:45:15 2018 No.8475601 >1 post by this ID sure nice seeing the same news over and over though it might be bots that are posting it at this point

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:46:59 2018 No.8475623 This is old news from 2012. good luck with your short, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:47:42 2018 No.8475633 >>8471445 I really hope someone is paying you to waste this much of your time

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:49:03 2018 No.8475655 >>8474161 Market manipulation. Really easy to spot, happens in every market. Fucking normies are easily fooled though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 09:49:50 2018 No.8475662 late adopters/shitcoiners will literally believe anything if it makes them feel better about missing out

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 10:13:48 2018 No.8475969 File: 3 KB, 110x125, 21942393_1384740998305100_1858735490_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8470495

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 11:10:48 2018 No.8476779 >>8468253 Jamie Dimon is that you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 11:44:24 2018 No.8477302 >>8469486 >You can't just decide you're going to use something as money and have it work *Unless you own a central bank.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 11:49:32 2018 No.8477383 >>8470020 "The currency of the far-right: why neo-Nazis love bitcoin " https://web.archive.org/web/20180321154840/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/24/bitcoin-currency-far-right-neo-nazis-cryptocurrencies

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 12:06:46 2018 No.8477688 File: 42 KB, 1555x311, YourFuture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8468643 >Even if that's true, you're still going to end up with a net loss. :^) Is this how you cope?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 12:36:14 2018 No.8478238 File: 3.23 MB, 237x240, 1520522760986.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8470495 >le ebil nazis

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 12:40:53 2018 No.8478318

>>8465127
Op is retarded the law clearly says "pornographic images" and the blockchain cant contain images only data that can be converted to an image

Basically op's downright braindead argument is you should be out to jail for illegal possesion of guns for beeing in possession of a blue print for a gun

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 12:41:44 2018 No.8478324 >>8470255 the cp is jut link though, right? you can delete the files and link leads to nothing

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 12:44:05 2018 No.8478367

>>8478324
No it is not a link go open an image in a text editor and then think about what images on the computer actually are

But op is still retarded because without an image viewer to convert it to a human viewable format on the screen it is not an image

Cp converted into a txt file is not cp

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 12:51:53 2018 No.8478490 >>8478367 >Cp converted into a txt file is not cp Yes, it is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 12:53:44 2018 No.8478514 >>8465773 could well be, no JP Morgan Jews are involved they will likely be using the media to move the price to wherever their bets are

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 12:54:23 2018 No.8478526 >>8478490 Nope it is not an image which the law clearly states learn to read If i ask you for an image do you provide me with data or with a viewable format? Dont even try that shit with me retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 12:57:09 2018 No.8478553 >>8478526 If you're using steganography to hide CP and are caught, you're still going down even if it takes a tool to translate it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 12:59:13 2018 No.8478595 >>8478553 Good luck arguing that borderline retarded logic in accordance with the text of the law Any data can be made to cp with the right algorithms all data is cp then good shit smoke less you waste of space

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:03:06 2018 No.8478645

>>8478595

Doesn't matter what the law says, it's what DA's and prosecutors think. Any form of encryption or scrambling data to hide CP is still a crime and many have been put away for it.

Btw I think this FUD about it being in the BTC blockchain is stupid as well.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:10:19 2018 No.8478783

>>8478645
Well here in germany it does very well matter what the text of the law states

I know 56÷ land courts dont follow the actual law but anywhere else we try to

What you gonna do if i write and algorithm that results in cp using the text of your post and press charges on you for possession and distribution of cp?

You see data is not an image it can be made into an image but it can be made into anything else either so its pointless

Just looking at the whole deepfakes incident should show how laughable that discussion is

Data is not an image data is data and data + algorithm can be an image or music file or whatever

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:13:15 2018 No.8478832

>>8475623
>>8478526
>>8478595
>>8478318
Do you think that at this point any lawyer would recommend to a client that mines bitcion to continue now that it is public knowledge the ledger contains encrypted CP images?

Just talked to my lawyer buddy and although this is not there field they would not advise a client to download the BTC blockchain, until this is resolved.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:15:11 2018 No.8478870 >>8478783 Well Germany may be more common sense, here in the US though the government is absolutely militant about the stuff. Even if you deleted it, it's still "possession" if it can be retrieved with forensics.

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Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:19:07 2018 No.8478933

>>8478595
>>Any data can be made to cp with the right algorithms all data is cp then

serious question, what is the probability that you could use an algorithm to turn random numbers into a clearly defined cp image?
I understand the logic of how this can be done just seems like the odds would be astronomically low you could turn random info in cp. Like 1 in 6 grazillion.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:28:37 2018 No.8479102

>>8478832
Well your buddy doesnt know shit about tech and i wouldnt ask him to defend me in a court in such matters i would go to a lawyer that specialized in tech obviously

It is actually pretty easy to argue in these cases if the country you live in gives a damn about the phrasing of laws and if it doesnt well your country is a shit dictatorship anyway and would fuck you over regardless

Still the point stands it says images in most if not all of these laws pornographie even implies image in its wording and data is not an image without the algorithm

If a court says otherwise they should be shot for tyranny because if this fucking case leads to a conviction than any phrasing is pointless and the country doesnt actually have laws only guidelines

How can you be sure they wont pull that shit again in any other matter

>>8478933
Yes they are extremely low but it doesnt even matter because the point is much more fundamental than that if you dont care about the phrasing of the law here and go through with it what point is there even in phrasing a law? Any law can be subverted like this. This is plain tyranny deosnt matter which topic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:30:43 2018 No.8479154 >>8465127 most effect means to undermine central banks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:32:22 2018 No.8479183 >>8465127 Time to all-in BTC.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:32:34 2018 No.8479186 what if some group started loading the blockchain up with racist or anti-semitic memes or phrases? Not sure how this whole thing works, but i assume it's much easier to fill it with text metadata than some image.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:34:19 2018 No.8479218 File: 53 KB, 645x729, brain.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8478490 >print txt and hang it in your wall >take picture >call cops >you are exposing cp in public hanging it in your wall >you go to jail

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:35:08 2018 No.8479233 >>8478933 >>8479102 Or in other words by the logic these people and courts are arguing with murder can be interpreted as any cause of death including accidents hell murder could even be turned into almost dead or heavily injured. Phrasing does matter.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:43:30 2018 No.8479389

>>8479102
>>Well your buddy doesn't know shit about tech

The person was a great lawyer,admitted to not knowing about the tech. However unless this has already been ruled upon and definitions set and case law made
which I am unaware of, even a tech savy lawyer would probably advise clients not to work with the btc blockchain until this is resolved.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:46:19 2018 No.8479442 >>8478490 ________ \| . . . . . . .\| \|. . . . o . . . \| \|. . . . \|\|. . . .\| \|. . . . _ . . .\| \|. . . \| .\| . . \| \|. . . \| . \|. . . \| \|. . . \| . \|. . . \| \|. . .\| . \|. . .\|

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:48:34 2018 No.8479474 >>8478490 .________ \| . . . . . . . .\| \|. . . . o . . . \| \|. . . . \|\|. . . .\| \|. . . . _ . . . \| \|. . . \| .\| . . . \| \|. . . \| . \|. . . \| \|. . . \| . \|. . . \| \|. . .\| . ..\|. . .\|

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:50:40 2018 No.8479504

>>8479389
Again if your country doesnt give a shit about phrasing then you have way bigger problems because you can be sentenced for anything you do. There is a reason these lawyers exist and it is to interpret the phrasing just fade out the lawyers then and have a court decide on the spot which sentence they think they wanna give you maybe you will be put to sleep for jaywalking or get a life sentence for stealing isnt it great?

They cant phrase this law without making all the data illegal. Try it yourself you will see how hard it is to make a certain kind of data algorithm combination illegal without unwanted side effects. I challenge anyone to bring me a definition i cant refute.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:52:38 2018 No.8479534 >>8479218 >>8479474 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:53:56 2018 No.8479551 >>8478783 it's not just random data... it's a jpg that was converted into hex values. you don't need an algorithm to get the data... you just need to add up the hex values put into the transaction outputs

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 13:56:53 2018 No.8479601 File: 52 KB, 564x704, 1521577596138.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8465649

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:00:25 2018 No.8479655 >>8479474 MODS

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:02:39 2018 No.8479705
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>>8479534
So all numbers are illegal since all numbers can be made into cp with the right algorithm

>>8479551
Do you actually know what an algorithm is? Because you actually do use one for that. Do you think computers work on magic? Algorithms are ways to solve problems or in tech world terms to process data. So how you gonna turn those hex codes into an image on the screen without processing them? And no hex codes are hex codes not images.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:02:53 2018 No.8479719 >>8470495 this >>8475969 >>8478238 wrong board you aitstic inbreds, markets aren't interested in your confirmation biased boiled down version of real world 2.0, gas yourself, do it asap

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:06:47 2018 No.8479785 >>8471331 >UK, so on and so forth, you're fucked. Obviously. >excludes China for some reason brainlet detected

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:07:48 2018 No.8479804 >>84797050 >hex codes not images it's just a different representation of the image. Do you even computer?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:11:47 2018 No.8479877 >>8468302 rest in peace mena, :^(

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:16:44 2018 No.8479966

>>8479504
>>8479705
dude being a luddite art fag, non verbal jew from /ic/ I really dont even know wtf you are talking about.
I am working on the assumption that real cp was put onto the btc blockchain, don't see how encrypting the image, or this autistic argument that images are just numbers will be a argument that flys in court.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:24:31 2018 No.8480096 >>8471375 There are always ways to run nodes anonymously faggot.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:30:33 2018 No.8480212

>>8479804
These hex codes represent anything the algorithm makes out of it they could also be a shopping list

Do you even computer?

>>8479966
Well maybe you understand cooking

Saying this data on the blockchain is an image by itself is the same as saying i have hydrogen atoms therefor i own lasagme because i can make through countless steps and chemical reactions make lasagne out of it. Data is a building block and what it becomes is merely decided by the processing(algorithms)

This is not even an hyperbole hell calling hydrogen atoms lasagne has a stronger case than calling a data an image.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:41:59 2018 No.8480440 >>8480212 what you are writing mages zero sense

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:46:16 2018 No.8480526 >>8480440 If you dont understand this simple explanation you might be disabled

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:51:12 2018 No.8480603 >>8465127 In other news, within the number Pi every piece of data that could exist already exists. The only information needed to retrieve it is the starting digit's nth place and the ending digit's nth place.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:55:49 2018 No.8480666

>>8480526
it is an Jewy hyper autistic sophist argument, the explication is easy to understand.

If a FBI agent can get in front of a judge and use decryption software that procedures a picture of CP the most probable outcome would be ruled that the BTC block chain has CP on and anyone possessing that data has committed a criminal offense.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 14:56:04 2018 No.8480671 >>8480603 unfortunately, that information requires a greater amount of storage than the piece of data itself

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 15:01:53 2018 No.8480759 >>8480666 Again any data can be made into cp. Somebody could turn your post into cp.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 15:08:54 2018 No.8480886 File: 881 KB, 1453x1182, usury.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8480666 Luckily, Bitcoin has value precisely because it doesn't care about what some faggot bureaucrats have to say about it.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 15:12:46 2018 No.8480952
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>>8465127
they are going all out. If you think this is plutonium-grade FUD, then you have seen NOTHING yet. They will paint it in the worst way possible. The WORST way possible. I don't know what exactly it will be, but expect much worse, and expect the mainstream media to report about it in every shape and form.

But do not fret. Bitcoin will endure. We might see drops down to 5k$, or even 1k$, but make no mistake, BTC is here to stay. And once the fire started by this has finally subsided, from the ashes it will rise again - but it will be more than a cryptocurrency. Because bitcoin is more than that. It's an idea.

And ideas, as we know, are FUDproof.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 15:14:26 2018 No.8480977 >>8465127 Child pornography existed before bitcorn. This means it will still flourish without bitcorn. The problem is the fact people think a boycott of bitcorn will change anything concerning child pornography. Backward thinking. *Mic drop

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 15:22:28 2018 No.8481102 >>8467896 so we should shut down the internet? >hurr durr cp could be deleted off the internet!!! Its impossible to completely delete all cp off the internet. Thus same logic, the platform must be rid of. Oh wait, butthatsfuckingretarded.jpg

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 15:25:19 2018 No.8481158

>>8480759
Strawman argument.
You are also totally avoiding the main issue. My post obviously didn't contain a pic taken of a child being exploited, so even if you could turn my post into a cp image (whatever that means) it would not be a image depicting real child abuse. I believe there was just a ruling in USA that CGI images of young people are not child porn, so once again your argument is a total straw man.

I hope this shit goes to court just for the lols.

>>8480886
BTC has value cuz people want to speculate on it. Who is gonna want to touch this shit if downloading the BTC blockchain means one has cp on the computer?

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 15:35:37 2018 No.8481350

>>8481158
>Who is gonna want to touch this shit if downloading the BTC blockchain means one has cp on the computer?

Everyone running nodes smart enough already to know how to route around that through Tor etc, so they wouldn't never be able to detect nodes. Idiots aren't supposed to run nodes, so it will not have an impact on the network. Also legislating like that is insane, only shitholes would agree.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 15:36:57 2018 No.8481380 >>8481158 How do you know it was a real child exploited in the age of deepfakes? God non techies are so retarded

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 15:39:21 2018 No.8481421 >>8481380 >yfw in the future child porn becomes literally detached from exploiting children I mean, the moral argument against it goes pretty much out the window in that case....

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 15:43:26 2018 No.8481491 >>8481421 It is a necessary step for the sake of the children tho. No child should be exploited for sexual pleasure and the laws we have now failed to prevent that.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 15:45:56 2018 No.8481523

>>8481380
>>How do you know it was a real child exploited in the age of deepfakes?
I said in an earlier post that I was under the assumption that the CP on btc block chain was a real imagine of a child being abused. I will assume that law enforcement has the ability to tell real images from fakes? Is this a retarded non techie assumption to make?

Also admitted to being a luddite art fag, is cgi good enough to make convincing cp? However as I stated in a early post,
>>I believe there was just a ruling in USA that CGI images of young people (in sexual situation) are not child porn, so once again your argument is a total straw man.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 15:59:45 2018 No.8481797

>>8481523
We are already pretty close and there are a lot of faked images that are already pretty convincing and it is only a matter of (short) time until you cant tell the difference just like that. The fakes will be in the thousands and identifying the real ones from the fakes takes time and money the courts dont have so they wont bother and start to wrongly convict people and ruin their lives. The current laws lead to desaster if enforced. Not to mention that agin the current laws are shit anyway due to beeing so vague and making any data illegal by accident.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 16:04:54 2018 No.8481881 Your IP Addresses have been logged. Please cooperate with our agents.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 16:11:10 2018 No.8481998

>>8481797
Kinda a side issue just out of artist curiosity.
I am a traditional art fag and though some cgi is really cool it is no where near to being as convincing as anything realistic.

Photo shopping images can create convincing illusions but that is just by manipulating data already there.

>> there are a lot of faked images that are already pretty convincing
are these images from scratch or are they Photoshop? Have any examples to share that are legal? would like to see.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 16:19:12 2018 No.8482133 >>8466792 Hey that was mine. It's bitcoin cash btw.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 16:23:37 2018 No.8482209

>>8481998
Google deepfakes the reddit has been banned but it is a small glimpse of whats coming the next decade with the help of ai

The more time goes by the less we can trust images and videos and it is gonna be a bigger and bigger problem for law enforcement

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 16:58:03 2018 No.8482803 you can theoretically arrange grains of sand from a beach to create a detailed child pornography image. without any instructions on how to interpret the data, "child abuse imagery" on a blockchain is just that

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 17:05:31 2018 No.8482956
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>>8482209
Just googled deep flakes and can say that nothing was to special. just looked like ok copy pasta photo shops. Don't see how that is anywhere close to making realist CGI porn.

I am a aesthetic dental ceramist (make false teeth). The human eye is extremely adapt at being able to spot visual imperfections.
What is happening more is most images are being shopped so everything looks fake.

We are a long ways away from truly convincing cgi porn.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 17:32:02 2018 No.8483396
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>The buzz surrounding digital currencies resembles the internet excitement in the late 1990s when people recognized technology companies could change the world. Many internet companies launched and their valuations took off in short order. Many failed, but a few succeeded spectacularly and challenged the conventional ways of doing business.

>Some critics of currencies controlled by government fiat welcome cryptocurrencies because their supply is preprogrammed and perceived as unchangeable. For example, only 21 million bitcoins will ever be issued and the last fraction of a bitcoin will be issued in approximately 2140. Additionally, the creator of Ethereum designed its mining reward to decline exponentially as more miners create blocks, and according to his calculations the supply will be just over 100 million ether.

>Cryptocurrencies and ICOs create headlines, and the pace of financial innovation in the blockchain space amazes skeptics. Yet, with all the headlines focusing on the financial applications, people may miss the digital revolution now happening with other blockchain applications. Even worse, people could be frightened about new developments with the technology as they associate blockchains with the negative headlines. Blockchain technology offers a decentralized, secure, and efficient way to store almost any form of data across multiple platforms.

>The Conclusion: Technology presents evolving challenges and generates new solutions. Blockchain technology essentially stores and transmits data securely, in large volume, and at high speeds. So far, the technology has proved largely resistant to hacking, and given this feature, developers first applied it to digital currencies. Yet blockchain has many more potential applications, such as portable medical records and securing the critical financial and energy infrastructure that the Report identified.

https://www.congress.gov/115/crpt/hrpt596/CRPT-115hrpt596.pdf

Nocoiners BTFO
Stay poor and keep buying AMD

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 17:34:29 2018 No.8483449

>>8483396
And also:
>Developers, companies, and governments recognize the potential and have already starting to implement blockchains for many different uses. For instance, health care providers, patients, and policymakers continue searching for portable and secure ways to store medical records digitally.

>From applications ranging from management of the electrical grid and utilities to how companies manage global supply chains, the potential for blockchain is truly revolutionary. For example, power plants could record the electricity they generate on a blockchain as available for purchase. Utilities could then purchase the power, and the blockchain would record the purchase and the transfer. Finally, the meters of end users would communicate with the utility to purchase portions of the power. These steps occur now but using a distributed ledger would streamline and speed up delivery, lowering costs and saving power.

>Blockchains could also enable microgrids from local power sources. The company LO3 Energy currently runs a pilot program for trading power from solar panels on Brooklyn roofs. Smart meters throughout the neighborhood would buy and sell power generated from these alternative sources as it enters the grid. With these developments and countless possibilities, it is no surprise that governments around the world started working with energy providers to explore blockchain’s use. Even the Department of Energy partnered with BlockCypher to demonstrate how blockchains could facilitate a smarter energy grid.

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Anonymous Wed Mar 21 17:35:45 2018 No.8483476

>>8483449
>Shipping a product from a supplier to retail creates mountains of paperwork or computer records that are rarely compatible across differing systems, especially a when distributor acts as a middleman between the two. The paperwork and data tracking multiplies when sending said product overseas or importing. Not only will multiple parties need to ship the product, but the supplier and customer will have to deal with customs agency paper work. Recognizing blockchain’s potential, IBM teamed up with the 214 world’s largest shipping company, Maersk, to develop a consensus distributed ledger that would allow all companies and government agencies along the chain to record, track, and verify products throughout their journey.

>Walmart and other grocers started testing blockchains for their supply chains. In testimony before the House Science and Technology Committee, Frank Yiannas, Walmart’s Vice President of Food Safety, described how tracking E. coli and other contaminated food took companies and regulators weeks, which left Americans at risk and incurring large costs in food waste. Walmart tested a blockchain platform to track sliced mangos from farm to shelves and reduced the tracking time from 7 days to 2.2 seconds. Walmart and ten of the largest grocers in America formed a coalition to implement this technology throughout their supply chains.

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