/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.9808783]

You guys do realize that large scale collapse is almost certain, right? We've got absolutely devastating climate change, looming repeat of 1929, FULL dependency on nonrenewable resources which are running out, full dependency on global supply chains. Within a couple decades there will be at least tens of thousands of INTERNAL climate refugees. The dustbowl will happen again but worse, and lasting effectively forever. What happened in Puerto Rico will happen again, and again, and again. The list goes on and on.

Complex civilization is 100% FUCKED. If you're not using your shitcoin gains to establish a more or less self sufficient community of homesteads within the next ten years, SO ARE YOU.

[Anonymous No.9808797]

>>9808783
Shut up commie retard

[Anonymous No.9808807]

>>9808783
you think me not play fo4 and fo76 to prepare and use crypto gains for guns

[Anonymous No.9808824]

Is time to HODL, we'll make it.

[Anonymous No.9808832]

>We've got absolutely devastating climate change
Uhh, we do?
>there will be at least tens of thousands of INTERNAL climate refugees
Not so sure about that anon.
>The dustbowl will happen again but worse, and lasting effectively forever
Whoah there buddy, calm down. Global warming ain't real.

We're currently on a path to self-destruction but it's a social thing, not an environmental thing. War will fix it. We've needed some hardship to kill off weak genetics in westerners. It'll be a good thing in the long run. And seriously, don't worry about that climate shit. Everything you think you know about it is a finely crafted lie.

[Anonymous No.9808840]

>>9808797
boomer
0xbitcoin
skycoin
chainlink
bcash

[Anonymous No.9808847]

>>9808783
Global warming expands arable land

[Anonymous No.9808874]

>>9808783
t. sitting on hundreds of acres of whats gonna be arable land in Northern Quebec

LINK holders will be accepted into my flock

[Anonymous No.9808897]

I'm going to build a bunker in Montana.

[Anonymous No.9808910]

>>9808832
This is literally how "redpilled" teenagers "avoid" the problem of environmental sustainability. Unbelievable.
The thing is, even if climate change isn't real we're fucked. Just look at ocean ecology and biomass. You can track in very simple linear terms how much food the ocean is creating, and how much we're destroying, and those ledgers aren't balanced. You can get caught up on "muh liberal climate change" (which is fucking retarded) but there is literally no reality in which our planet is capable of sustaining infinite growth, infinite greed and the underlying ecology to actually meet those needs.
And before you come in with "we'll come up with solutions! Muh science will fix it". We're not. We're not funding sustainability now. We're not reducing consumption now. You think we're magically going to turn around and suddenly become sustainable when global biodiversity starts freefalling faster than it is now? Of course not, we're not that smart or self aware. Instead we'll just blame foreigners, go to war, and the winner will get a dead planet that can barely support anything except microbial life, cockroaches and whichever sociopathic fuckheads won the war.
Escaping to a remote area and creating a sustainable community is my plan too, but it's only a temporary fix. When the world is post-habitable there won't be any safe enclaves, and even if there are, then you can bet the billionaire's drone swarms will be out looking for them.

[Anonymous No.9808925]

>>9808847
It takes a huge amount of time for land to become fertile. Just because an area has thawed doesn't make the land suitable to food production or other human use.

[Anonymous No.9808930]

>>9808910
Ur not invited to my Montana bunker.

[Anonymous No.9809076]

>>9808783

>USA gives egypt money
>Egypt uses it to make bread and distributes it
>Population swells to 80 million muzzies
>Europe flooded with migrants

I still blame Euros for being so stupid as I blame Amerifats for legalizing beaners.

Overpopulation is real and so is global fucking warming.

People being retarded about one or the other really rustle my jimmies.

[Anonymous No.9809119]

>>9808783
>climate change
It's good for the economy. It will increase agricultural productivity.

>looming repeat of 1929
It's also good for the economy, it will eliminate bad actors from the financial system.

>FULL dependency on nonrenewable resources which are running out
This will be wonderful for the economy as it will propel innovation in the energy sector.

>least tens of thousands of INTERNAL climate refugees
Marvelous for the economy, it will increase our labor force competitiveness and drive asset prices up.

>self sufficient community of homesteads
LOL absolutely awful for the economy. Do you really want to live among stinky hippies who do nothing but smoke marijuana all day long? This will be a dead weight for the economy.

[Anonymous No.9809210]

>>9808832
>We've needed some hardship to kill off weak genetics in westerners
Top kek. You actually think beta cucks and racial undesirables will be the ones suffering the most from war? It's the best way to kill off the few chads left in Western civilization.

The ones who survived WW1/WW2 were either lucky or complete kikes who weaseled their way out of combat by being in management and academia. The war is never going to hit the university professors and gender studies ideologues, it's going to hit the blue collar workers and uncucked patriots. A few million beaners would also die but they breed quickly and there's far more of them.

[Anonymous No.9809340]

>>9808783
Dumbass.

We will see economic collapse though. Housing ponzi running out of buyers fast. Student loan is over 50% pre recession levels. Credit card and auto back at all tiem high debt.

Rising yield rates. Trump nationalist policies.shits going down and i cant wait

[Anonymous No.9809364]

>>9808910
Its fluctuation dude
Its not grow, then die

Its grow, shrink, grow, shrink

Cycle

Ur right that we are hitting a shrink cycle soon. 20th century was too good too long.

Protip, we are approaching the centennial anniversary of the great depression.

[Anonymous No.9809469]

>>9808783
In case you didn't notice, renewable biodiesel is cheaper than petroleum diesel for the first time in ever. And what makes you think global supply chains are easier to manage than national or local supply chains? 1929 was about making money. Get yours and get out.

You're not wrong about accumulating land tho

[Anonymous No.9809528]

Would you rather live in a sustainable community that:

1. Showers regularly and smoke pot

2. Doesn't shower regularly and smoke pot

>because only sociable stoners are going to have the actual network of productive human capital

Bunker-dwellers will become roving bands of starving paramilitary, just as predicted.

Food is a hard limit, guys. Don't get your ass stuck in third world countries that ban marijuana. When the shit hits the fan you are going to need people who grow and ingest marijuana.

[Anonymous No.9809540]

>>9809528

I forgot to mention also that hemp is the original currency of North America and if meme fiat and crypto disappear, we're going back there. So develop a taste for marijuana now.

[Anonymous No.9809542]

>>9808783
biz in an event of societal collapse how we we identify one another. we are all too high iq to fend for ourselves, we could potentially take over the whole world if we come together

[Anonymous No.9809604]

>>9808832
>>9808910
Climate change is very real, just not man made. It's a cycle and temps are gonna drop harder than btc.
Pic related
Ice core data

[Anonymous No.9809651]

>>9808910
OP is completely 110% correct. I keep saying this over and over again on this forum and IRL and fucking everywhere, but it doesn't matter. Our financial system is on the brink of collapse, and once it finally does collapse, we won't have the resources or political will to even attempt to fix the completely fucked biosphere.

The truly truly tragic thing about all this is that it didn't have to be this way. If we hadn't centralized financial power in central banks, made reasonable regulations about dumping plastic into the oceans, and not allowed corporations to become fkin "people" thereby skewing incentives, we would have been able to create a stable civ, or at least had a chance.

Also what about the caldera in Montana or an accidental nuke going off? So many fucking black swans complex civilization is so fucking fragile to it's insane.

[Anonymous No.9809677]

>>9809604
There are many more environmental problems than just climate change, something the average brain let has much problem understanding. Have you heard of the gyre? How do you plan on cleaning up a toxic Pacific ocean?

[Anonymous No.9809707]

Another reason we got so JUST'd is our bluepilled views on eugenics sofial welfare and slave morality. Allowing women to vote ties in here as well. The entire concept of sofial welfare is so unsustainably dysgenic it's fucking insane we are practicing it, let alone even ever considered it. But this bluepilled bullshit is what happens when you allow women to vote .

To conclude the post mortem, the 3 reasons humanity will collapse:

1. Central banking
2. Corporate personhood
3. Female suffrage

All of which combined to fragilize civilization and permanently nuke the biosphere

[Anonymous No.9809715]

>>9809651
Yes, the jews are truly a boison.
The berfect real-life examble of the frog and the scorbion tale.

[Anonymous No.9809730]

Last post, for me, but I'm glad there are people like OP to talk to about this shit. Everyone is so fucking bluepilled about the end of times we are living in it makes seeing the truth isolating and almost unbearable.

Unlike rome after the Visigoths, there will be no life sustainable earth to flee to once the shitstorm begins

[Anonymous No.9809739]

>>9808910
Human beings will be long dead, and the planet will thrive just fine. We could be wiped out in the blink of an eye by a meteor strike or a super volcano. What we do here with our short window of time makes fuck-all difference. You do realized that 99% of all creatures on this planet are no longer living, right? Think about that. The human timeline is so minuscule it is comparable to a grain of sand on a beach somewhere. Even if we tried our best, we wouldn't be able to fuck the planet enough that it wouldn't come back stronger.
Look at the fucking snowball Earth period. All life on the planet was reduced to a few random ponds scattered along the equator, and we bounced back from that 650 million years ago.

[Anonymous No.9809747]

look at all these faggot commie bitches in this thread

[Anonymous No.9809748]

>>9809677
I don't personally but it's likely a non issue as oil has probably leaked into the ocean since time immemorial due to earthquakes and shit anyway.
Given enough time a volcano will melt all that shit or will sink and become a layer of mud underwater.
Animals like whales seem to do a good job cleaning it, they eat it, die, sink and become part of the ocean floor.

[Anonymous No.9809771]

<COMMUNIQUE>

Activate all sleeper cells. Prepare for war.

<COMMUNIQUE TERMINATED>

[Anonymous No.9809778]

>>9808797
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.9809779]

>>9809747
Anon the adults are talking. be a good boy and return to your /pol lair

[Anonymous No.9809781]

>>9808807
fo4 is a horrible game. You should play f1 and f2 instead. New vegas, perhaps, too.

[Anonymous No.9809795]

>>9808783
We're all doomed. Every major country right now is laying the groundwork for the future global war.

[Anonymous No.9809806]

Everything on the planet is a cycle.
>>9809739
Like this anon said given enough time we'll be gone, wiped out by fire and fossils baked in stone underground.
Lava, ice and dust will cleanse every mess we create given enough time.

[Anonymous No.9809811]

>>9808797
yeah based god emperor trump will solve all our problems, right fellow 'pede?

[Anonymous No.9809812]

>>9809779
Anon, the "adults" dont know know what they are talking about here :) so return to your tumblr lair faggot

[Anonymous No.9809817]

>>9808783
>(((climate change)))
KYS OP

[Anonymous No.9809832]

>>9809811
back to infinity chan you go

[Anonymous No.9809844]

>>9809811
Back to the gay club you go

[Anonymous No.9809864]

>>9809528
>sociable stoners
>productive human

Choose one and one only

[Anonymous No.9809871]

>>9809812
I wish you were right. I un-ironically doubt it however. Read nassim taleb the black swan, read about historic collapses of civilization, and realize we have been living on borrowed time for quite a while. Central bankers passed the buck in 2008 and the result will be much much worse

[Anonymous No.9809883]

>>9809832
>>9809844
>>>/r/the_donald

[Anonymous No.9809895]

>>9809871
I know everything about 2008, 1987, 1929, you are the one making shit up
So shut up and quit being a subculture doomsday bitch

[Anonymous No.9809897]

>>9809871
Crypto is the answer , decentralization and transaperency are the answers, but it's probably too little, too latd

[Anonymous No.9809912]

>>9809883
Commie retards always end up necking themselves sooner or later. IE:heather heyer

[Anonymous No.9809918]

>>9809895
Overconfident angsty Brainlets like you are un-ironically the reason we are fucked in the first place. Holy shit you're a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.9809927]

>>9809912
>>>/r/the_donald

[Anonymous No.9809960]

>>9809918
>>>/r/LGBTQ

[Anonymous No.9809996]

>>9808783
We are overdue

[Anonymous No.9810004]

>>9809918
awww did I hurt your feelings?

[Anonymous No.9810020]

>>9809996
The markets will go up and theres nothing you can do about it :) have fun being a little doomsday bitch

[Anonymous No.9810508]

>>9808847
>>9808925

>fell for the global warming meme

We're headed back into an ice age you idiots
This last brief warming reun up until the 90's was the last little pump we will get

I don't even know why I try to help you people.

It's better for me the more people are looking in the wrong direction, and hence why it's not mainstream. This is priest class knowledge

[Anonymous No.9810566]

>>9808910
If climate change is real we will be gone by 2020. But it's not.

[Anonymous No.9810679]

>>9809715

[Anonymous No.9810895]

I'm really not interested in the self-indulgent ramblings of some half-thought teenage fantasy.

These assholes have been saying the same thing for countless years, when all they really mean is they don't want to get a fucking job because they think they're too special for it. Nobody fucking cares about you, become the cog you were meant to be. If you were meant for more, you'd be doing it.

[Anonymous No.9810982]

Just get rid of the jews and the hub for their international swindle, Israel and the world will be better off.

[Anonymous No.9811026]

>>9809748
>oil has probably leaked into the ocean since time immemorial due to earthquakes and shit anyway
There's a difference between oil that comes out of the ground and refined oil that spills from a crashed ocean liner.

[Anonymous No.9811034]

>>9809927
>>9809960
Please kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.9811051]

Budgeting for your Bunker
>>>/biz/

Building your bunker
>>>/diy/

Growing plants inside for air/food
>>>/out/

The science of bunkers
>>>/sci/

Discussion of why you need a bunker
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.9811069]

>>9811051
how could you forget:

Defending your bunker
>>>/k/

Enjoying leisure time inside your bunker
>>>/cm/

[Anonymous No.9811083]

>>9811069
It was just a way to tell them to go back to pol.

[Anonymous No.9811084]

>>9811051
>>9811051
You forgot:
Training to be able to build your bunker
>>>/fit/

[Anonymous No.9811094]

>>9808783
>looming repeat of 1929
In what way?

>Within a couple decades
Ill have one foot in the grave by then. Who cares.

[Anonymous No.9811106]

>Global Warming was so hard to sell to smart people it was changed to Climate Change. Much harder to refute. Of course the climate changes. It's in a constant state of flux. Climate change is akin to River Flow.

>95% of gov't funding goes to research aimed at proving climate change.

>Earth has been in climate long cycles since the beginning. It's nothing new. It has been much, much hotter at times in the past.

>We currently live in an Ice Age.

>In controlled biosphere studies, increases in CO2 result in an abundance of plant life, which, inturn results in an abundance of oxygen, which in turn results in an abundance of animal life.

Now, as far as fresh water shortages, over population, the island of plastic in the Pacific, and the mountains of tires and diapers, and the pcbs found in every living organism on Earth, and the mercury in the fish, and gmo food, and antibiotic growth hormone chicken that can't even stand up under their own weight. I hear you.

>But Man Made Global Warming isn't real.

I would point out that we're working on being more ecofriendly. Sustainability is a focus. Cleaning rivers is a focus. At least in the U.S. It has stopped getting worse, and has been getting better.

[Anonymous No.9811162]

>>9808783
Climate collapse is like talking about robots taking our jobs. Sure, it is happening, but we can adapt to it, same way we adapted to catastrophic global warming at the end of the ice ages.

[Anonymous No.9811945]

i've been hearing this meme for 20 years

[Anonymous No.9812025]

>>9811034
>>>/r/the_donald

[Anonymous No.9812074]

>>9808797

This.

[Anonymous No.9812137]

>>9811106
this is the only poster in the thread who knows anything

[Anonymous No.9812143]

>>9809542
>how we we identify one another
Verbal knowledge of memes is enough I'd guess. popos and cia nignogs can look shit up on the fly now that encyclopedia dramatica exits, but not if SHTF.

The problem with chan autists is that we all suffer from a computer addiction and we wouldn't be much use in the outside world other than a very light version Eugene from TWD type skills.

Like hempanon above you said, start developing a taste for mj now lol

[Anonymous No.9812159]

>>9809817
>unironically quotes the evil cunt witch

The absolute state of neoliberal shills today

[Anonymous No.9812160]

>>9808910
this reeks of burger bluepill overdose
it IS the foreigners, pollution levels from China, India's use of antibiotics, Africa overbreeding... native westerners and especially americans aren't great, but they're better, and their population dwindles. an all white world would find a sustainable equilibrium point at this point
second, there's nowhere to homestead in europe (no land, and against the law in many cases)
your entire worldview is american centric, and frankly, a little deluded: europe will collapse in 20-30 years, but america still has a good half century

[Anonymous No.9812335]

HAHHHAHAHAHA. This reeks of utter brainwashing and tomfoolery. You are all a bunc of morons and you fail to see the real enemy.

1) Climate Change is not manmade, theres no evidence its manmade and we have evidence that the people saying its manmade are coerced and bribed.

2) This repeat of 1929 is planned and artificial. dont you get it? Who set up our money system? (((them))). This money system is doomed to fail, the entire economy is artificial.

3) Very simple, we will develop new forms of free energy, in fact that free energy already exists but the technology has been suppressed by (((them)))

4) There isnot going to be some sort of armageddon scenario with "climate refugees" complete and utter hogwash.

The real danger has always been the same thing in humanity's history...people looking for leaders like (((Trump))) to fix things. Once the economy collapses they will have another monetary system in place they will corrall us into, unless we say no. You watch the news, listen to (((Academics))) but what you dont realize is that little do you know that the news is fucking fake and so is what they teach. Its literally fucking fake.

Planet earth will continue on with or without humanity.

[Anonymous No.9812555]

>>9812335
This man knows whats up. Not sure about the free energy but this is the important part:

They have planned for our current banking system to fail. They also started crypto.
In the near future they will collapse the current financial system and pivot to crypto in some form.
Play your cards right and you can get filthy rich in the process.

[Anonymous No.9812572]

>>9808797
Boom and bust cycles are an intrinsic part of capitalism - theres nothing communist about stating that. And we haven't recovered so well from the last one so OP has a good but slightly exadurated point

[Anonymous No.9812587]

>>9808783
Climate cucks are the dumbest human beings on the planet. The earth is and always has gone thru large scale cycles in its global temperature. Humans are not ushering in some apocalyptic wet dream all you loser commies have because you can’t make it in a normal capitalist society. Financially we’re in for some fireworks but in terms of the eco system, were fine.

[Anonymous No.9812626]

>>9812587
>implying science is wrong and he’s right.
Where do you people live so I can stay far the fuck away? Literally 99.9% of scientists agree we as humans are fucking the environment up and man driven climate change is a real thing leading to something catastrophic and irreversible, and you are here confidently disagreeing with science. It’s an unfathomable level of stupidity for me. The only thing science disagrees on is the timeline and whether or not we actually can reverse it at this point or not. “Muh liberals”... holy SHIT I hope you’re trolling.

[Anonymous No.9813056]

>>9810508
thanks just sold 100k celcius

[Anonymous No.9813260]

>>9812626
This is my question as well, every single damn scientist who researches this shit for a living says it's real. Why should I believe anonymous on 4chan

[Anonymous No.9813282]

>>9808797
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.9813300]

>>9808910
Dumb faggot commie. Even if every single white on the planet jumped on board with your commie retard nonsense, they are outnumbered 10:1 by subhuman locusts that pollute and destroy and breed in absurd numbers.

[Anonymous No.9813312]

>>9813300
Braise geg !

[Anonymous No.9813333]

>>9813056
the k is for kelvin yo

[Anonymous No.9813342]

>>9812626
>Literally 99.9% of scientists agree we as humans are fucking the environment up and man driven climate change is a real thing leading to something catastrophic and irreversible, and you are here confidently disagreeing with science.

Nice regurgitation of the brainlet meme. 99% of scientists do not confirm man-made global warming. That's a mistruth propagated by teh media. It's more accurate to say that 99% of financial funding is allocated to prove global warming.

The UN Climate Council was caught by a whistle blower fudging numbers to show man made warming. The whistle blower leaked emails to wikileaks of discussions between the UN members adn the programmers who deveoped data software discussing how to alter the data to show the results the UN wanted. Should've been a huge blow to the credibility of the global warming hoax, but the "news" ignored the story.

A clean environment is something that everyone can agree on. It transcends party and ideological classes. It's also very difficult to politically oppose environmental regulations. So the "enviornment" ends up serving as a vehicle to deliver a larger state and more centralized control of the economy. And brainlets worrying about an environmental Armageddon are lapping it up.

[Anonymous No.9813380]

>>9813342
Why does it even matter? Even if global warming doesn't exist overfishing, harvesting of old growth forest, deforestation in the Amazon, etc etc are going to fuck us all anyway.
Everyone gets caught up arguing over climate change when we're completely fucked ecologically either way.

[Anonymous No.9813387]

Ive wanted to invest in self sustaining, shit hit the fan type products and companies. Anyone know good ones?

[Anonymous No.9813395]

>>9808783
Thanks Al Gore

[Anonymous No.9813462]

>>9813342
Wrong, you’re reading conspiracy theorist blogs of evangelical lunatics. Ask any fucking scientist not directly affiliated with a religious organization and the answer you get will be the same. EVERY major scientific organization has published publicly their opinions on man made climate change and they all agree it exists and is a threat. You are a classic fake news victim, I bet you voted for Trump too kek.

[Anonymous No.9813475]

>>9812159
>BAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW NEOLIBERALISM

Anyone that doesn't support TOTAL FREE MARKETS needs to be thrown from a helicopter, no exceptions.

It's like you people want to be poor.

[Anonymous No.9813542]

>>9812572
>Boom and bust cycles are an intrinsic part of capitalism
This is what marxists and keynesians actually believe.

Do you know what central banks are, what malinvestment is?

[Anonymous No.9813630]

>>9809747
nobody here's a fucking communist you braindead ideologue

[Anonymous No.9813652]

>>9808783
whatever

[Anonymous No.9813696]

>>9809781
New vegas is a buggy mess. It had great potential but didn't deliver and ultimately ended up as a half-finished pile of garbage.

[Anonymous No.9813732]

>>9812160
Finally somebody said it.
The world is fucked. Tldr it's basically China's fault due to the dominoes that started falling from their revolution last century. They are an active detriment to economy with sham policies and are easily the most polluting country on the planet. Europe doesn't see any of it because they've been stuck so far up their own ass for 500 years they can't see anything outside of the EU as being important

[Anonymous No.9813755]

>>9810566
>replaced reality with a ridiculous strawman that literally no one believes
>says strawman isn't real
propaganda 101

[Anonymous No.9813775]

>>9808783
read SNOWCRASH...it lays everything out

[Anonymous No.9813784]

>>9808847
yeah google warming will make russia the bread basket of the world

[Anonymous No.9813859]

>>9813462
>Ask any fucking scientist not directly affiliated with a religious organization
It's not sure religious nutters denying it. A huge percentage of climate "skeptics" are openly funded by the oil industry. Some of them are even the same people who were denying that smoking causes cancer for the tobacco industry. Total fucking psychopaths. It's some of the most blatant corporate corruption and propaganda of all time.

[Anonymous No.9813867]

>>9812555
Yes. Exactly. The pivot to crypto has been planned.

I am going to give you all a little secret

THE TAKEDOWN OF THE "DEEP STATE" IS PLANNED.

IT IS PLANNED.

You are supposed to hate the Deep State, you are supposed to view it as the enemy. Problem > reaction > solution. Controlled opp has you focused on the Axis of evil western powers, when you dont realize that the whole thing is a sham. That they already have another system for you to go into when the Deep State falls.

There is no such thing as the "Deep State" its all a bunch of lies and actors. "White Hats" "Black Hats" they are one in the same.

Humanity ultimately chooses to be ruled as slaves. Jews are just very good at doing it and good at subversion and manipulation. What you see on the news is a lie. Its literally a lie.

[Anonymous No.9813880]

>>9813859
You are falling for (((them))). "Every scientist" is a fucking meme and pure propaganda. The "End of the World via extreme weather" is a scenario that (((they))) have always pushed on the populace.

Armageddon, judgement day, WAKE THE FUCK UP FOOL!!!! ITS ALL THE SAME SHIT! MODERN DAY SCIENCE = RELIGION. YOU DUMB SHIT.

[Anonymous No.9813978]

>>9808783

Retard.

You do realise that climate change will result in a 10-30% increase in rainfall in Africa, right? And that crop yields will actually rise substantially in many parts of the world?

Thought not :)

[Anonymous No.9814029]

Here brainlet's I'm going to give you some more clues at to whats really going on.

What you see on the news is literally a lie. Mass shootings publicized in the USA are hoax's. They use actors. Literally actors. Not everyone involved in these staged events are actors, but the people you see on TV are crisis actors. No bloodshed, the families that are involved set up their own donation pages and they rake in the money. Its a fucking million dollar business of cheating the population.

The population is fleeced at every turn. It's a scam. Taxes are a fucking scam and go absolutely nowhere, they go into a black hole because the entire country runs on credit. The End of the world via the weather is just another part of Agenda 21 and 2030. Global Carbon Tax is a precursor to WORLD Government, which is what they wanted all along.

Feminism, Transgenderism, etc, is all an effort to destroy the family unit which is the building block of civilization. Destroy the family unit and you destroy a culture and a nation. Lowering of Testosterone is done ON PURPOSE, Feminism and turning men into women is done ON PURPOSE, making the society gynocentric is done ON PURPOSE so the men dont fight back. They really, really dont want WHITE MEN (AKA YOU) fighting back against the system. Which is why all White male heroes have been completely stopped in media.

What you see on the news is a lie, just like the staged events, press conferences done by our government are dog and pony shows used to keep the populace in line and show there is a semblance of government functions. In reality the people at the top are simply puppets of the Elite that control most "global" families.

The way we get out of this is simple, dont choose another hierarchical government. Crypto is part of their plan, but what they did not anticipate was the "Decentralization" aspect of it. In order for their plan to work, they must have a centralized authority.

[Anonymous No.9814196]

>>9813880
>You are falling for (((them)))
No mate, you're the one falling for corporate propaganda. I've looked into the denier side and it's clear as day. Even if scientists are all in some some global plot by (((them))), that doesn't change the fact that the denier side is completely and utterly full of oil money.

[Anonymous No.9814267]

>>9808783
>We've got absolutely devastating climate change

[Anonymous No.9814363]

>>9814196
>Denier side
You sound like a religious fanatic. Because that's what you are. This has nothing to do with oil money. It has to do with Agenda 2030. Global carbon tax has always been part of their agenda.

[Anonymous No.9814371]

>>9814029
>brainlet's
That was all I needed to know.

[Anonymous No.9814377]

>>9808783
You see if our systems worked like this then you might not have had the 2008 financial crisis because everybody would see.

[Anonymous No.9814391]

>>9814029
This man has taken so many redpills he’s become a box of chemicals. Let this be a warning kids, redpills may be a good supplement in your onions diet but only in moderation.

[Anonymous No.9814398]

>>9814371
Yes, because your brain is small.

[Anonymous No.9814453]

>>9814391
He's right dumbass. Those shootings are staged. What you see in the media is fucking fake. Weather destruction scenario has always been used to do troll the population. The same tactics used to control peasants in the middle ages are used on us.

Muh scientists are the priests, climate change is judgement day. Same fucking shit. Agenda 2030 wake up faggots

[Anonymous No.9814559]

>>9809996
Have a look at the Bretton Woods agreement

[Anonymous No.9814575]

>>9808797
What is communistic saying we are flooded by low IQ brownies who reproduce like rats and are crashing our standards of living and transforming western countries in shitholes?

[Anonymous No.9814588]

>>9812572
>exadurated

[Anonymous No.9814642]

>>9809604
Hey dipshit, we are currently at 411PPM. Where does that fit on your scale?

[Anonymous No.9814652]

I don´t care.

I will work and party all night all day until the party ends!

keep rollin boys!

[Anonymous No.9814738]

Boomers criticise crypto saying it is a speculative ponzi, but right now so is:

Property - boomers chasing gains by flipping houses, new coming of age gens can't afford houses to start families. Rampant property speculation.

Stocks / Shares - quantitative easing pumped straight from the central banks into the big commercial / investment banks to pump their boomer client's stock portfolios.

Bonds - same as above, QE bubble

Shit interest rates is what the boomer central banks have put into place, meaning saving fiat is completely and utterly worthless. This has fuelled the speculative asset bubble from rich fucks trying to find somewhere to make gains.

Icing on the cake was financial deregulation in the 80s spewing forth the trillions of derivatives which are literally boomers just betting with eachother on already overpriced speculative assets.

All the while wages have not grown in pace with any of the above. They expect YOU to buy their bags, and if you can't some rich Chink or Russian oligarch will.

Boomers will die and you will be left living in a place you LITERALLY have no stake in, unable to afford a family and crippled with debts.

Normies don't comprehend this and go on continuing to rack up credit cards, new cars, cardboard McMansion mortgages.

We might have one saving grace, as long as we aren't overrun with shitskins and muslim migrants before its too late, we might be the generation that will go down in history as washing away all the ills of our fathers and rebuilding Western civilization.

We live in interesting times.

[Anonymous No.9814755]

>>9814642
Means were due for a bigger crash but co2 levels aren't important, plants need it and it has no effect on us.
Pic related

[Anonymous No.9814773]

>>9814755
>there are actually brainlets this delusional
you're fine as long as you don't have any children.

[Anonymous No.9814862]

>>9814773
You're the brainlet who doesn't see repeating cycles, you won't prepare for the upcoming 2030 ice age that will starve most of the West since next to nothing will grow and bring our economies to a stand still, since you know most of the West doesn't function when we get a few snow days.
Good luck retard and keep paying your (((co2 taxes))), keep believing global warming will go up forever.

[Anonymous No.9815005]

>>9814755
My god you're fucking stupid if you think co2 poisoning is the way climate change ends us.

[Anonymous No.9815027]

>>9808832
but the strong die in war, anon. The weak remain, thats what happened in ww2

[Anonymous No.9815080]

wow most people here are completely insane, big surprise

[Anonymous No.9815134]

>>9815005
I didn't say that, current co2 levels are irrelevant. Decreased solar activity from the sun is what's going to fuck us.

[Anonymous No.9815214]

>>9808783
>full dependency on global supply chains
buy vechain. save the world. problem solved.

[Anonymous No.9815313]

>>9814862

This anon knows, you should listen.

We are heading for much cooler average weather and decreasing crop yields (while simultaneously global population still increases).

Why do you really think all these rich countries like Norway or Saudi Arabia are buying up agricultural land across the globe at insane rates ?

[Anonymous No.9815343]

No it isn't.

[Anonymous No.9815377]

OP's comment may be true, but:

>1) it isn't caused by humans
>2) to the extent it might be caused by humans, it is overwhelmingly the cause of third worlders, the very same people who will indirectly cause the looming 1929 scenario. (Primary cause is jews).

Human industrial pollution is nowhere near impactful enough to seriously influence a system as massive as earth's climate.

However, the Sun is. And it has its cycles.

[Anonymous No.9815393]

>>9815377
We have a fair amount of influence on the ecosystem but it's nothing that a few thousand years couldn't reverse after our extinction.

[Anonymous No.9815421]

>>9814363
>You sound like a religious fanatic.
You realize that the only claim I've made is that there's propaganda coming form those arguing against the notion. You're misusing the term "religious fanatic" completely here. It's a way to dismiss the other side without engaging with anything they say. It's no different than the left using their buzzwords like "racist" "homophobe" "islamophobe" etc etc..

Maybe there is a unsavory side pushing a "pro climate change" agenda or some such. But there's zero doubt that a lot of the denial is directly connected to large corporations who have a massive financial interest in the status quo. At best, there's propaganda and bullshit on both sides.

[Anonymous No.9815521]

>>9808874
>Living in perpetual winter
Fuck that. I’d rather be swallowed by the sea.

[Anonymous No.9815542]

>>9815421
>>9815421
> It's a way to dismiss the other side without engaging with anything they say.
You mean how you say it's oil money propaganda?

Oh but that doesn't count, does it?

"Climate Change deniers" is a cult-like saying. Period. "Deniers" implies that someone is denying the absolute truth. There is so much shilling going on for "Climate Change" and suppression of the truth, that even people like Bill Nye have been going on about how deniers should be locked up.

It's the same shit with vaccinations. They make it out to be the absolute truth, when in reality there is evidence that shows that vaccines are connected with the rise of autism. Of course, no one is allowed to draw the parallels between the rise of vaccination and autism rates. No, we wouldnt want to do that.

"Climate Change" is a load of Agenda 2030 horseshit. So are vaccines. So is everything else that is pushed in the Academic/Government circles.

[Anonymous No.9815547]

>>9808783
Agreed its unironically inevitable, to think otherwise is delusional. What you don't know is the timescale

[Anonymous No.9815556]

>>9814453
What do you need as proof of anything? You're acting like the unironic strawman of solipsists, going "Lol China don't real because I never seen it." Is a theory valid only if it is convenient for you?

[Anonymous No.9815594]

>>9815313
Are they buying land in the fucking Saharah? Because with an Ice Age that would be the biggest piece of arable land onplanet Earth.

Wait, they fucking don't, and in a few years the Arabic Peninsula may become utterly uninhabitable by sedentary humans, your absolute retard.

[Anonymous No.9815598]

>>9808797
*clap jej

[Anonymous No.9815599]

Reminder: Mankind currently lives in an ice age.

[Anonymous No.9815612]

>>9809864
imagine being this unwoke faggot

[Anonymous No.9815626]

>>9815599
An "Ice Age", geologically speaking, is any time there's a significant amount of ice at the poles. Current humanity evolved in a time where there was ice in the North and South Pole; while dinosaurs mostly existed in a time where Earthhad no ice caps. Make what you will.

[Anonymous No.9815671]

>>9815542
>You mean how you say it's oil money propaganda?

Are you willfully obtuse or do you just lack all reading comprehension?
I literally said that I looked into their arguments. I researched them. I DID NOT DISMISS ANYTHING. I looked at where they came from and found the sources to consistently (not all, but a very clear majority) to be some person or group funded by or associated with companies that have an interest in inaction.

[Anonymous No.9815681]

everything mentioned in this thread while may or may not be true isnt even the REAL redpill, but simply another facade to distract you from the truth

that this is all a spiritual war of soul evolution. its okay if our society falls into anarchy and dies. as long as you personally dont become a marauding sociopath and you do your best to uplift and harmonize with those around you.

it's all a test. the sexist and racist posters are failing btw

[Anonymous No.9815684]

>>9809996

My guess would be 2019-2020. Right now we're in 2006 World.

[Anonymous No.9815730]

For those of you pointing to a "consensus" among scientists. Read "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" by Thomas Kuhn. Perhaps after reading it, you won't be so gullible in the future with regards to what "scientists" say.

Pure investigative science isn't always what is being conducted by scientists. Much of scientific activity is done to reinforce a current theory or paradigm. Dogma and intellectual inertia are very real forces in scientific activity.

Man made global warming "Science" is largely state funded, and 99% of the state money is allocated to projects that reinforce the man-made theory. It's very similar to letting the tobacco industry conduct all of the research on lung cancer. Or the pharmaceutical industry to conduct all of the research on vaccines, or the food industry to conduct all of the research on gmo.

This blind loyalty to what "science" says, without investigating how the scientist drew the conclusions, or what the motivations to draw conclusions were, is the product of your public school brainwashing. YOu've been conditioned not to question anything if it has the approval of "science". You're falling for the man-made theory of global warming, and ignoring the enormous ball of exploding hyrdorgen in the sky, and any impact it might have on temperatures here on earth because of your education, which is continuously reinforced by the mass media. It works so well, so confidently march to forums, and regurgitate the meme with arrogance.
>There are environmental concerns that affect us all, but, Man made global warming is complete bullshit. We shoudl be worried about fresh water.

[Anonymous No.9815739]

>>9808783
Depopulation and transhumanism when?
I reckon it will happen within 100-150 year.

[Anonymous No.9815774]

>>9815626
>An "Ice Age", geologically speaking, is any time there's a significant amount of ice at the poles. Current humanity evolved in a time where there was ice in the North and South Pole; while dinosaurs mostly existed in a time where Earthhad no ice caps. Make what you will.

Isn't it also true that the overwhelming majority of earth's geological existence has been in the warm state between ice ages?

Isn't it also true that the earth has been coming out of an ice age, and warming, for thousands of years? Notwithstanding intermittent cyclical activity.

[Anonymous No.9815836]

>>9813542
Whats there to believe? Look at a fucking chart you mongloid

[Anonymous No.9815847]

Ask your parents or grandparents. In the 1970's the new media was pushing a global cooling and the inevitable global winter/ice age that was to be the result of man's irresponsible environmental behavior. We were all going to die because the Earth was going to freeze into a ball of ice for 10,000 years.

Topics that are difficult to politically refute, and are difficult for brainlets to distinguish the fine details of opposing arguments, are often used as vehicles to carry in what would otherwise be heavily opposed legislation adn regulation. Page One of that playbook has sections on Terrorism, Protecting Children, and Environmental Protection.

[Anonymous No.9815848]

>>9815739
start with yourself

[Anonymous No.9816007]

>>9815542

Isn't it great being irrational? Without evidence you can just believe anything.

>vaccines cause autism
>CO2 doesn't drive global temperature increases

Being irrational means you get to be part of the 1% club that knows "what is really going on"

[Anonymous No.9816035]

>>9808783
>If you're not using your shitcoin gains to establish a more or less self sufficient community of homesteads within the next ten years

Oh, but I am Anon - that coupled with establishing a winery and building in to a vineyard. Just a little more and I'll have my hill in wine country that is a front for my compound.

[Anonymous No.9816044]

>>9816007
Isn't it great not doing your research?

>Being irrational means you get to be part of the 1% club that knows "what is really going on"
Yeah buddy, you sure proved me wrong. Look at all that evidence you showed me. Wow. Yeah, really impressive.

[Anonymous No.9816100]

>>9808832
Deluded - it's an enviromental thing brought on by a capitalist society that thinks infinite growth is possible on a finite planet. We're actively in the 6th mass extinction by scientific definitions.
>Insect populations down between 40-80% depending on region
>Riparian habitat reduced by 80-90%
>Wild vertebrae populations down 40% or more
>Ocean acidification and manmade oceanic hypoxic zones (gulf of mexico) killing sea life (down ≈40-50%)
>Ground water supply drying up in many areas - what's left is severely polluted
>The blob, son of blob, and godzilla pressure systems causing extreme weather events along the entire western shore of the Americas
>Extreme droughts & wildfires getting larger and more common
>Loss of arable land to suburban sprawl and overcropping (dust bowl in California calcifying soil)
>Permafrost melt revealing massive methane geysers
>Weakening Siberian jet stream causing glacial melt and massive cold fronts below the 45th parallel
>Clearcut logging depleting soil nutrients, within decades trees will no longer be a viable crop
>Phosphorus crisis - we have ≈40 years left of P. All life requires phosphorus, once we're out we're done. All of us
>Sulfites from factory pollution are reflecting solar rays back in to space artificially cooling the planet. If we stop polluting then the sulfite levels in the atmosphere will drop causing an immediate spike in average temperatures by 1-2°C
>Inorganic fertilizer dependency creating massive pollution issues by killing soil and mesoclimates (1 ton of inorganic N requires 2 tons of oil to produce)

And this is just the beginning, it's so complex that society as a whole has chosen to ignore climate change in hopes that will it figure itself out. Earth will be largely uninhabitable by 2100. Screencap this

[Anonymous No.9816116]

Who cares? We all die anyway but for some reason human's think they are special and extinction isn't something they think about. Is this a bad thing? If our species becomes extinct something will just overtake us that can adapt and reproduce in the new environment that killed us - evolution friend. Humans need to die anyway, just look at the leftists and whole SJW bullshit and the flat earthers - it's time we die.

[Anonymous No.9816137]

>>9808847
It doesn't expand organic matter

[Anonymous No.9816191]

>>9812335
>Climate Change is not manmade
>CO2 is a greenhouse gas
>1.2billion cars on the road worldwide
>1 gal of unleaded produces ≈18lbs of CO2
You do the math dummy

[Anonymous No.9816210]

>We've got absolutely devastating climate change, looming repeat of 1929, FULL dependency on nonrenewable resources which are running out

[Anonymous No.9816376]

>>9809604
how do I short this

[Anonymous No.9816561]

>>9816191
>>9816137
>>9816100
Where are all these Pruitt puppets and deniers at? I'm ready to do intellectual battle

[Anonymous No.9816620]

This thread reeks of underage and Trumptards.

You all do realize that there's metric tons of proof that anthropogenic influences are the direct cause, right? That we have solid projections on sea level rise and flooding, that have been accurate since at least the '90s?

And that there are literally hundreds of "solutions", since no one thing has gotten us into this situation, and it's unrealistic to expect there to be a "magic bullet" to get us out of it?

Here's the IPCC's WG1 report from the 5th Assessment Report. That's a good baseline coverage of all the physical science you could ask for, and links to further information. http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/

If you want information about solutions, follow the link in there to the WGII and WGIII reports, which deal with adaptation and mitigation, respectively.

We have plenty of information on these issues. You folks just don't want to read any of it.

[Anonymous No.9816646]

>>9815836
>depicts chart controlled by central banks

[Anonymous No.9816675]

>>9809119
its always nice to hear the perspective of an autistic rich person

[Anonymous No.9816687]

>>9808783
1. MMCC is an unproven meme.
2. We've discovered much more oil in North America in the last 10 years than thought possible. It's part of the reason oil is so cheap.
3. Other countries will collapse, the US is barely 250 years old and will still 10x by 2060.

[Anonymous No.9816689]

>>9808783
>FULL dependance on nonrenewable energy resources

Although nuclear power is by no means renewable, it could last us ages if the average person wasn’t so fucking stupid and ignorant about that shit.

[Anonymous No.9816894]

>>9816044

Its not my job to educate you, obviously all of it (if any) was a failure

[Anonymous No.9816903]

>>9816689
This much is true, it would be much safer from meltdown if we decentralized nuclear to each county/township having their own small reactor. It would put less strain on one massive system. Also, the Chinese are working on using nuclear waste as an energy source, which would use all the waste buried under Colorado. Plus, we could power the world off nuclear warheads if we could just get rid of religion and central bankers

[Anonymous No.9816913]

>>9809832
>>9809844
t. JDIF

[Anonymous No.9817129]

>>9808783
Climate Change is a meme pushed by environmentalists to get public grants and funding. I know this because I've gained an environmental degree and I've seen firsthand how these freaks act and behave: narcissistic, pen-pushers who genuinely believe they know how to govern the world, and they will make you pay for it.

You can get paid well by selling a large, all encompassing story about global doom, alongside getting votes for it. In fact, it's almost religious, an example being the erection of giant, white pillars (turbines).

To actually achieve environmental conservation is much harder to sell, because it requires significant changes to your lifestyle, and actually evaluating your surroundings. It's easy to cry about climate change on social media, but how many people will go litter picking or demand for reduced agricultural subsidizes?

[Anonymous No.9817138]

>>9816903
Are you an Oregon fag, perchance? Asking for a friend.

[Anonymous No.9817193]

>>9808783
Decentralized infrastructure is more self sufficient, autonomous, and reduces central points of failure. With its ability to enforce policy without primitive threats of destructive reprocussion, cryptocurrency has shown the ability to incentivize growth of such distributed systems for many sectors of industry. In order to continue to support existing populations we will be forced to move away from the current exploitative centralized systems because of the huge amount of waste created by their inherently distorted models of incentive. We have seen that POW is either too centralized or too easy to attack, and lacks scalability. It is clear that the various flavors of POS lead to centralization of supply and incentivizes the degenerate proliferation of useless coins fixated on price. In order for cryptocurrencies to achieve their potential in allowing human civilization to continue to thrive, the cost of consensus must be lowered to as near zero as possible. There must be no block rewards or transaction fees. Incentives are what drive human behavior and create order out of chaos. Those incentives must be directed solely towards the growth of decentralized infrastructure to support a transition of industrial activity away from the crumbling centralized models.

[Anonymous No.9817273]

>>9817193
Are you shilling Nano in a doomsday thread?

[Anonymous No.9817282]

>>9817138
What gave it away?

[Anonymous No.9817292]

>>9817193
The infrastructure may be decentralized but the power structure sure isn't. All the nodes/miners/stakers still have to answer to the people with clout or risk being ostracized. The strange thing is many crypto investors, despite wanting the benefits of decentralization, still desire a high, unquestionable authority to control the fate of their coins.

[Anonymous No.9817558]

>>9817292
Centralized power structure is generally good. The vast majority of the population do indeed want to listen to authority. This natural trait of man needs to be converted into a strength rather than a liability. Likewise greed is generally good, incentivization of behavior, if modeled with wisdom will convert it into a strength. Inequality of man is generally good, a system that allows for self determination through the mechanical application of responsibility separates each individual into their appropriate lot in life. These benefits and more are withing our grasp. Reduction of centralized overhead accomplishes a great deal by cutting off the dead and rotting meat from the societal organism. It is easy to look upon our centers of power and be overwhelmed by the stench of corruption. As long as the race of man is not extinct there will remain a core of born leaders who will be discovered by such a system. Once the new systems are in place there will be no way to compete with them. To compete you would need to create your own decentralized system, and that act would not violate our objectives. The dead meat feels heavy but it is dead and weak. The disease infects the minds of the weak, they will be separated by their own inability to keep pace.

[Anonymous No.9817740]

>>9808783
Am I the only one who actually wants a post apocalyptic wasteland? I just think it would be entertaining to watch everybody with no survival skills freak out and mass suicide after their blissful ignorance catches up to them.

[Anonymous No.9817878]

The CDC commissioned my university a few years ago to do an analysis assuming an illness that caused a 5% US death rate within 1 month. The model predicted the first acts of cannibalism happened 32 days from the start of the event.

[Anonymous No.9817942]

>>9817878
And then the prions start.

[Anonymous No.9818094]

>>9815542
The question always has to be, if you are going to reject the scientific method and peer review as epistemological vehicles (ie, that which moves you towards 'facts' or 'truth'), then what the fuck are you going to use instead. anecdote, hearsay and hunches are not rigorous, repeatable or falsifiable means of attaining knowledge. You say there's 'evidence' against climate change and vaccines, but I'm certain all you actually have is some shit some guy said on the internet, and he posted a graph, and it looked convincing enough. If you haven't subjected your shitty idea to the rigors of repeated placebo-controlled experimentation, metareview and peer analysis, there is really nothing going it. It's just something someone came up with. Woo.

Obviously peer review is not perfect, obvious scientific and academic circles have their biases. But you want to reject a system of knowledge acquisition just because it is flawed, and resort to make-believe and confirmation bias instead. Get it through your skull that just because you want something to be true, or just because it feels true doesn't make it necessarily true.

There is a breed of contrarian that is basically against whatever the majority has to say, that is their personality style, and they can be left (anti-vax, anti-gmo, naturopath) or right (climate denial, anti-intellectual/elite). You should seriously consider that you may just be one of those people who is strongly inclined towards disbelieving what everyone else believes, no matter what the substance of the matter in question is. Think of yourself as an epistemological hipster. It's not something to be proud of.

[Anonymous No.9818226]

>>9808783
you tree huggers dont understand that climate change is a good thing, some sort of mechanism is necessary to keep the population in check.
nothing like horrendous weather to kill off the poor and niggers.
if america had a flood half the nigger population would die.

[Anonymous No.9818236]

>>9817129
Climate change is real but I actually agree with you about what we would need to do to actually swiftly and meaningfully resolve it. Everyone is hoping that recycling their napkins and driving a tesla will get the job done. We have all been indoctrinated to try to effect change in the world through our consumer choices. What actually needs to happen is to stop being a consumer entirely, at every level.

Likely to really nip MMCC in the bud we would need to depopulate by a magnitude (<1bil) and start living at a level of energy intensity never again to exceed that of medieval europe. That's a hard sell when your crowd is full of apple/starbucks/tesla gentrified yuppienauts.

Sometimes I think in a sense that climate change deniers are actuallythe ones closer to the truth - not because they're right (they're not), but I suspect on a subconscious level they more aptly grasp what it would really mean for them if climate change was real (it is). They appreciate that accepting the reality of climate change would necessarily mean huge, life-altering inconvenience in their life - inconvenience if they ignore it and let it grow, and inconvenience if they meet it head on and actually take real steps to mitigate it.

Meanwhile the yuppie left think it is manageable by just rounding their starbucks purchase up to the nearest dollar to donate to the sierra fund. That's probably the most deluded attitude of all.

[Anonymous No.9818249]

>>9817740
The city folks would be the first to die.

[Anonymous No.9818341]

>>9818094
>anti-intellectual/elite
Most western academics embraced Marxism as it promised them technocratic glory in the 70s/80s, many sang the praises of the USSR as it was really actually stagnating and imploding as a cohort they have savagely endorsed eugenics/abortion/euthanasia as a means to population control and been right about very very little. The environmentalist agenda filled the hole maxism left, it was a reason d'etre to ignore property rights in favour of government lead collectivist property control and again promised academia technocratic glory. When you realised that people are still doing papers based on study programs that mind blowingly still have topics like the continuing relevance of marism to international diplomacy and the environment you realise that academia is far far far from what science is and should be. It has become an entirely self serving organ of government, funded via tax in most countries that seeks only to increase its headcount, funding and influence to the detriment of students, society and taxpayers. You seem to me to be, well frankly retarded. You go bicycle everywhere, avoid using plastics and eat onions because some bearded prick larping as a scientist in a geography department told you that we were all going to fry (they same were predicting a new ice age in the 70s). Fuck you and fuck you ilk for your stupidity. The green parties are where all the ormer cheerleaders for the USSR went when it collapsed. Think that through for people who have a track record of wrong..As regards the science, the earth is warming yes, it would be we are in a warming phase of the Milankovitch cycle, its not man made, the compuer aided modelling that's used to justify the man made aspect are based on stupidly small data sets and have no statistically credibility at all. scum that had no problem defencing the USSR so they could be your technocrat ruler for an occupying power don't give a fuck about truth.

[Anonymous No.9818352]

>>9808783

The climate change part is deliberately being ignored and not talked about because if it was, there would be full scale panic and rioting. Human race will be dead in 100-200 years. Notice how "save the whales" "save the rainforests" is no longer talked about except among a small niche of people. It's literally impossible at this point to save any animals or plants, we've fucked with Earth for too long.

[Anonymous No.9818389]

>>9818236
people like you are over socialised and have as a consequence views entirely based not on reason but on perceived peer consensus. I would not value your opinion on where your asshole was because if your acquaintances said it was on your forehead, you'd try shitting out your head.


>>9818249
>The city folks would be the first to die.

Sadly no. Although their are essentially parasitical in nature, relying on rural inhabitants for production of healthy individuals for military service, cheap labour and food, what history shows us is the mobs of urban areas move out and like locusts consume and destroy rural areas in times of societal collapse, like the Paris mob descending on the vendee. The urban mobs inability to do anything to rebuild sustainable agricultural production or communities in the land and spaces they take are a symptom of collapse. And by that I mean useless urban neets and boomers buying rural homes to survive apocalypse and fap in from their taxation derived incomes, taxed on the people who's homes they are buying..

[Anonymous No.9818391]

>>9816561
the exact correlation between co2 and heat is unknown. It's also possible once it gets to a certain point, plant life accelerates to consume the co2 in a cyclical system.
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/study-finds-plant-growth-surges-as-co2-levels-rise-16094
The amount that co2 heats the earth is logarithmic. studies in the 70's say that the rate is so low that we could pump as much co2 as we possibly could and it wouldn't be a problem for 100k years.
only more recent studies say it could be a problem within 1k years.

erring on the side of caution is good, but it's terrible to be so arrogant in a science you know so little about. It's been turned into a moralistic political issue to centralize government power rather than to promote public safety.
Remember, every doomsday prediction that the heating alarmists have made was drastically off.
the CFC ban was the only good thing to come of this, since its pretty easy to see that those chemicals react with the ozone (O3) and anyone can know that for themselves.

[Anonymous No.9818424]

>>9818352
is the end nigh? Maybe but not because of climate change. because of the type of people who hypothesise any reason for technocratic and governmental expansion have created such massive paradigms based on lies and have caused such societal and economic damage via their urbanisation programmed that those same urban centres are close to collapse. Is this a bad thing? No. The only loss is the harm those useless mobs will do to the worthwhile chunks of humanity that have managed not to be corralled into urban rent tenements and over socialised brainwashed drone thinking

[Anonymous No.9818455]

>>9818391
You do spout absolute shit. There is no point in engaging on your discussion points as you are ignoring mine. Suffice to say a large mass of bullshit does not make it any more reasoned, see the latest utter confusion over ozone depletion and the complete incomprehension as no one knows where these 'cfcs' are supposed to be now coming from. We are fucking ants, earth will keep right on rolling and so will we because we are touch little fuckers. We would do a lot better if we took technocrats out and used them to dig drainage ditches or their parasitical tax derived coin than pontificate fundamentally unscientific crap like man made climate change

[Anonymous No.9818464]

>>9818455
i wasn't talking to you fag

[Anonymous No.9818496]

>>9818464
>t, on a state grant in a geography department fucking over his fellow man producing shit on extorted tax money bucks

[Anonymous No.9818517]

>>9818496
you have the intelligence of a nigger and the reading comprehension of a chimp

[Anonymous No.9818557]

>>9818517
>you have the intelligence of a nigger and the reading comprehension of a chimp

But trust me I'm a scientist. You shut up and let me decide how you can use your property and propose controls to your behaviour via taxation. The taxation that pays me to produce papers on the continued relevance of Marxism to the environment. You want to know what fucks the environment? Big government projects planned by shitty b grade over socialised thinkers bred by parasitical boomer Marxist in their 20s/30s government employees. You

[Anonymous No.9818577]

>>9813260
You shouldn't. Inb4

>Appeal to authority!!1
Better than "appeal to teenager on the internet with an opinion"

[Anonymous No.9818591]

>>9818577
So 'academia' was right about the ussr and gommunism before they jumped on environmentalism as their new technocratic haven?

fucking s o y thread

[Anonymous No.9818606]

>>9815542
Wtf, when did my mom find out about /biz/

[Anonymous No.9818671]

>>9818391
CO2 as a greenhouse gas remains true regardless if the correlation is unknown. Man kind is spewing billions if not trillions of pounds of it per year.

Yes, plants do consume CO2 cyclically, but we’re still at 411ppm and rising. From all historical evidence CO2 levels in this range have always triggered extinction events. Which we are seeing similarly to >>>9816100 said.

I agree the CFC ban was good, and requiring catalytic converters to change monoxide to dioxide was better; but regardless we are in a dire situation. Arable land is depleting, phosphorus is almost out, and CO2 is through the roof. Throw in the probably of nuclear war and the singularity and mankind really doesn’t have a chance within 100 years

[Anonymous No.9818704]

>>9818341
Good example of exactly what the guy who you replied to was talking about. No facts or evidence, just arguing against ideas based on who (supposedly) propagates them, with a heavy tinge conspiracy nonsense that you believe because you want it to be true for some reason (my guess is because it makes you feel like you have some exclusive knowledge about something grand and important).

[Anonymous No.9818712]

Biggest problem is the tens of millions of incels all over the world not just the west. China alone has like 100 mil incels that won't find a partner to settle down with.

When the blueballs reach breakout levels, war or civil war is inevitable.

[Anonymous No.9819186]

>>9818391
>studies in the 70's say that the rate is so low that we could pump as much co2 as we possibly could and it wouldn't be a problem for 100k years.
>Kind of citing studies that were released when leaded gasoline was considered ok
Did you know your homeboys at Exxon and Shell have acknowledged that we're facing a 5°C world and that CO2 is at the core of the issue
>https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
>https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/bp-shell-oil-global-warming-5-degree-paris-climate-agreement-fossil-fuels-temperature-rise-a8022511.html

[Anonymous No.9819215]

>>9808783
so you are saying the only things that survie an apocalypse are rats, crocodils and shitcoins

[Anonymous No.9819253]

>>9817878
Got a link to that by any chance?

[Anonymous No.9819262]

>>9808832
You've been blue pilled

[Anonymous No.9819276]

>>9808847
Incorrect. The soil in cooler regions isn't suitable for mass farming.

[Anonymous No.9819288]

>>9809781
f3 was better than new vegas ez m8.

[Anonymous No.9819299]

>>9818236
Fucking this. These people are literally just science deniers. I bet half of them think evolution's a hoax too.

[Anonymous No.9819307]

>>9814029
I left after the first sentence. "Mass shootings are a lie". I live in burger-ville, there is a lot of shit that are real conspiracies but Mass shootings are not one of them. The only reason you get to think that i because it hasnt happened in your life bro.

[Anonymous No.9819363]

>>9818236
Great post srs.

[Anonymous No.9819448]

>>9813880
You are so bluepilled it's painful.

[Anonymous No.9819486]

http://documentaryheaven.com/surviving-progress/

[Anonymous No.9819545]

>>9813867
>>9813880
>>9814029
>>9814363
>>9814398
Although your rants have some truth to them, but you fail in your ability to reasonably convince anyone. Turn off infowars and don't get so butthurt when your preconceived notions are challenged. It's ok to be wrong if you can learn from it and grow. Also, I agree that Sandy Hook was setup and shady as shit.

[Anonymous No.9819609]

>>9818094
Based af, this is the real redpill

[Anonymous No.9819741]

>>9818094
I don't think anyone advocated discarding the scientific method as an epistemological tool.

The general cycle of science has been that there are theoretical breakthroughs that cause scientific revolutions. They happen periodically. The time between revolutions is spent supporting, verifying, fine-tuning a theory, until the limits are reached, a crisis occurs. Competing schools debate over their different interpretations of the data until a new breakthrough is made. Initially it is resisted by the old guard until the evidence overwhelms the old theory and a new paradigm is established.

Climate change science is a manufactured paradigm. The money and funding is directed at proving the man made theory. It's not directed at genuine pursuit of knowledge. Competing theories don't get equal funding. It all goes to proving one theory. That fact alone should trigger the rational man's bullshit detector. When ideas need threat of imprisonment to gain mass acceptance, you should be sniffing for bullshit, because it's in there somewhere.

[Anonymous No.9819993]

>>9808783
>he thinks society will collapse due to climate change

[Anonymous No.9820045]

>>9819741
>that fact alone should trigger the rational man's bullshit detector.
What's the evidence for your claims?

[Anonymous No.9820052]

>the dollar is going to collapse any day now
>civilization is on the brink of chaos
>debt is at HISTORIC highs and that isn't good, its all gonna break
>the house of cards is shaking and about to tumble, you sheep just dont see it because you have the wool pulled over your eyes

ive been hearing this shit for 20 years. its like christians talking about the rapture and end times. its always imminent, the day is always just over the horizon. i honestly think you guys are going to be on your death bed--funded by medicare of course--saying civil war will happen in 5 years

[Anonymous No.9820186]

Human civilisation is a plane that is crashing. The "eco conscious" left are all standing together at the back of the plane, flapping their arms as hard as they can and screaming "at least we're doing something!"
The right wing have their window blinds down and are saying "Doesn't look like we're crashing to me", while a few of them are holding altimeters upside down and saying "We're not crashing, we're gaining altitude!"

We're crashing either way, folks.

[Anonymous No.9820321]

>>9808783
>2018
>trying to discuss collapse with brainlet normies who don't understand thermodynamics, complex systems, and think technology is magic

good luck

[Anonymous No.9820375]

>Everything is fucked, biggest collapse everrrr
>"WHAT CAN WE POSSIBLY TURN TO FOR PROFIT IN SUCH A DIRE TIME?"
>Fake internet money that has no use at all!

Genius

[Anonymous No.9820417]

>>9810566
>YEAH WELL IF """CLIMATE CHANGE""" IS REAL, THEN EVERY HUMAN ON EARTH WILL DIE IN 18 MONTHS

t.massive retard

[Anonymous No.9820420]

>>9808783
If some faggot shit like nuclear war or extreme famine happens, I'm just going to kill myself.
What's the point in struggling to prolong my suffering for another few years, only to die to violence or starvation?

[Anonymous No.9820433]

>>9809739
Perhaps, but consider this. The planet has seen only 5 mass extinction level events throughout its history, and yet we, a single species that has existed for only a tiny blip of cosmological time have managed to start a 6th mass extinction event.

[Anonymous No.9820440]

>>9808783
Nah.

[Anonymous No.9820537]

>>9812160
>>9813732
you are so fucking retarded lmao, westerners pollute a shit ton more than china per capita (look it up). Also china's government, for all their flaws, are actually addressing the issue of pollution (moving away from coal etc) while USA waits for "muh free market" to solve things. America is fucked but dont blame foreigners

[Anonymous No.9820546]

People saying a collapse could never happen. Just wait until the international fibre link is cut.

[Anonymous No.9820549]

>>9820321
I think that most of the economic problems of oil running out will be offset by the slow, but steady, shift of our grid's production capacity to renewable sources.
Oil will still be needed for things like airplanes, which aren't able to run on electricity, and that oil will be synthesized from coal or bio sources.
Like your document says, it's not going to be an energy source, per se, but just a means to transfer energy at extremely high density. Airplane tickets will become much more expensive, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see electric trains become the standard as the price of oil would make diesel powered locomotives uneconomic to operate.

We have the means to totally switch to renewable energy now, there's just not much incentive to do so because oil/coal is still plentiful and cheap to extract.

[Anonymous No.9820575]

>>9820537
>per capita
50% of china still live in mud huts and use literally no electricity. 100% of westerners are mass consumers. Lmao.

[Anonymous No.9820601]

>>9820546
You do realize there is a massive network of over 100 undersea fiber cables?
Even if all those managed to get cut, there is a lot of capacity via satellites.

[Anonymous No.9820611]

>>9820045
All over the place. It's easy to find. I'm not going to find it, and compile it for an anonymous mongolian shrimp farmer.

[Anonymous No.9820622]

>>9820549
cant you just put a bunch of solar panels on an airplane tho

[Anonymous No.9820626]

>>9820601
>>9820546
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.9820635]

>>9820575

That's laughably false

[Anonymous No.9820677]

Debating about climate change is pointless because at the end of the day absolutely nobody besides some commune hippies and varg vickernes types are doing anything to lower their stand of living(which is ultimately the only thing you can do to reduce carbon emissions). The global elites are basically retards thinking they can save the planet while simultaneously destroying all localized industry and forcing everything to use long complex supply chains powered by diesel engines. Then you have retards thinking because they are a silicon valley cuck with a Tesla they can replace the global transportation infrastructure with batteries. Then you have these lefty retards who think everybody including the entire third world should have a government subsided western standard of living which is impossible and unsustainable, while simultaneously complaining about pollution and shit, they also want to increase carbon taxes to and then use them to spend even more money on importing third worlders and giving them a western standard of living. Then on the other side you have """conservatives""" who want to expand suburbia, strip malls, massive trucks and shit to new heights. nobody is going to do shit until they are forced and by then it will be too late.

>>9820549
The entire transportation network is 100% dependent on oil, the only exception being some electric trains(which use electricity from coal/natural gas plants) and a minuscule amount of person vehicles, renewable energy is a meme if you wanted to replace all fossil fuel energy with batteries it would require mining operations that make the Alberta oil sands look like a fucking joke, and you cannot transport it in pipelines like oil, so you need even MORE oil powered heavy machinery to move everything around, also the oil industry is basically broke and hemorrhaging money ever since the collapse in prices back in 2014 and there is still no replacement.

[Anonymous No.9820763]

>>9820677
There are certain properties of oil that make it the perfect energy source

It's a liquid so you can transport it in pipelines and other vessels easily, is can be pumped, poured, it flows. Oil fields can produce oil using just the pressure of the earth that pushes it to the top which is why the EROEI is so high for oil(or it was in the past)

Compare that to batteries, which use metal, cobalt, nickle, lithium, ect... Heavy as fuck, requires strip mining to obtain. The refining process is EXTREMELY toxic which is why 99% of rare earth are produced in buttfuck nowhere inner mongolia. They cannot be put into a pipeline like oil and require are extremely heavy which requires enormous energy just MOVE them.

The only solution is decentralized rail networks like in the industrial revolution, also thing like waterways which were used in Europe, China, NE America ect. Localized industry so your shittly little widget doesn't go from China to Vietnam, back to China, then LA, then on truck to the rail depot, then to another truck, then to walmart in buttfuck minnesota. Also making QUALITY good like in the past that would last a lifetime so you buy one useless widget and it lasts forever

[Anonymous No.9820926]

>>9820677
>>9820763
Grid electricity can replace oil for the most part, but it is certainly less convenient.
Our rail network would be still work fine, the tracks would just have to be electrified. Personal transportation would become less and less of a normal thing, as the price of batteries (and electric vehicles) would skyrocket. Electric streetcars (pic related) would probably become more and more common as traditional commuting would be too expensive.

Electricity can be easily transported across long distances, can be generated in a multitude of ways, and runs basically all of industry.
The end of oil would be a radical lifestyle change for many people, but I don't think it would at all spell collapse. We just keep using it right now because it's cheaper to drill out oil than to convert everything to electric.

[Anonymous No.9821028]

>>9809651
Regardless, the sun would still inevitably wipe out the Earth in time.
Honestly, whether we prolong our species or all go extinct, either route is fine. There is no meaning and life is not a problem to be solved. Just enjoy being here while you can and when it's time to go, watch and see what comes next.

[Anonymous No.9821135]

>>9808783
>pic related
>>9808797
FPBP

[Anonymous No.9821474]

>>9819307
How hard can you Baaaa?

>>9819545
>Infowars
Infowars is controlled opposition.

I have an exercise for you:

Enter Infowars into Chaldean and/or Pythagorean Numerology calculator. You will come up with 33.

Enter Alex Jones. You will get 33.

Remember Hillary's 33,000 emails?

January 30, 1933 -- Adolf Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor of Germany. Note that this date also forms a '333'!

When the Illuminati assassinated President Kennedy, he was killed according to the occult number signature of eleven [11]. He was killed in the 11th month, on the 22nd day, and on the 33rd parallel.

King David reigned in Jerusalem for 33 years

Jesus died at the age of 33

Bill Clinton, the 42nd President, was born in Hope, Arkansas, at the 33rd Parallel

On July 8, 1947 a UFO and aliens’ bodies were allegedly found in the desert outside Roswell, New Mexico at the 33rd Parallel

On April 12, 1945, President Franklin D. Roosevelt met his “sudden death” of a cerebral hemorrhage at the 33rd Parallel at Warm Springs, Georgia. His last words were, “I have a terrific headache.” His medical chart is reportedly missing. Roosevelt was replaced by 33rd Degree Mason, Harry S. Truman. Weeks later, the nuclear bomb was dropped on the 33rd Degree Parallel, at Nagasaki, Japan

Wake up niggers

[Anonymous No.9821485]

>>9821474
I can go on and on with this shit

[Anonymous No.9821510]

>>9821485
Let's delve a bit more into Kennedy assassinations

1963: The Kennedy Assassination -- President John F. Kennedy Sr. was shot and killed in Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas near the 33rd Parallel on 11/22/63 (11 + 22 = 33). Dealey Plaza is the site of the first Masonic temple in Dallas, and a Masonic obelisk. Thus, we see the following numbers in the JFK assassination:

Number 11 -- November

Number 22 -- The day of the month

Number 33 -- Addition of '11' and '22'

Number 33 -- Dealy Plaza is located on the 33rd Parallel

1968 On June 5, 1968, shortly after winning the California primary election, United States' Senator, Robert F. Kennedy, was killed at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, California, close to the 33rd Parallel and near a Masonic Lodge. Like the assassination of JFK, this assassination contains the same occult "Master Numbers" -- 11, 22, 33.

Number 11 -- RFK was shot on June 5. June is the 6th month; when added to the 5th day, you get an '11'

Number 22 -- RFK was shot by a .22 caliber pistol

Number 33 --Addition of '11' and '22'

Number 33 -- Los Angeles is very near the 33rd Parallel

Phoenix, Arizona, is on the 33rd Degree Parallel. Tremendous paranormal activity is occurring in Phoenix, and has been since the 1947 Roswell Alien/UFO incident allegedly occurred.

JAPAN'S BOMB - Nagasaki, Japan is on the 33rd Parallel. Hiroshima is 100 miles away. Historians have always been perplexed as to why the U.S. chose Nagasaki to hit with a nuclear bomb, since no meaningful military or political targets existed in this city. However, you can see how 33rd Degree Mason, President Truman, might have made the decision to attack Nagasaki, located on the 33rd Parallel. HURR DURR WAKE THE FUCK UP

[Anonymous No.9821545]

>>9821485
You're larping as a tinfoil, right? You can't unironically believe in that shit.

[Anonymous No.9821582]

>>9821545
>Numerology
>Believing
What is there to believe? The numbers are right there in front of you moron. Numerology is a METHOD. It's not necessarily a belief system.

In numerology you add up all numbers until you get one final number, with the exception of doubles - 11, 22, 33 etc. So for example the numerology of 1999 = 1 + 9 + 9 +9 = 28 = 2+8 = 10 = 1.

[Rainbow Dash is my God No.9821702]

>>9808847
It will bring down the fertility of Great Plains as the average temperature falls in the North America and it will thaw down permafrost in Siberia, expanding the accesable arable land in Russia. Russia of the late 21st century will be the dominant global food producer.

Climate change does not equate to global warming over the entire planet.

[Anonymous No.9821745]

>>9820611
The thing is, I've seen a lot of claims around that it's manufactured. And that claim (that the consensus is manufactured) can more often than not be traced back to oil company founded institutions such as the Heartland Institute which, among other things, has manufactured fake (or grossly misleading) studies to falsely claim that there's no consensus.
That's why I'm asking. If there's actually legit evidence out there, I honestly want to see it. So far, I've seen bullshit and little else.

[Anonymous No.9821791]

>>9818704
>No facts or evidence,


>>9818704
>we are in a warming phase of the Milankovitch cycle, its not man made, the compuer aided modelling that's used to justify the man made aspect are based on stupidly small data sets and have no statistically credibility at all. scum that had no problem defencing the USSR so they could be your technocrat ruler for an occupying power don't give a fuck about truth.

No surprise you spawn of Marxist boomers can't read

[Anonymous No.9821804]

>>9819276
>The soil in cooler regions isn't suitable for mass farming.

What is winter wheat, maybe I you knew anything about agriculture or the environment you would realise what a con climate change is.

[Anonymous No.9821812]

>>9819299
I would place man made global warming and creationism on a shelf beside each other as idiotic cults

[Anonymous No.9821843]

>>9821510
Jesus died at 33 and Buddha died at 80 years, what's your point?

[Anonymous No.9821852]

>>9819741
You don't know shit. You just have a wild distrust of authority, sheer ignorance, or both

[Anonymous No.9821952]

>>9820186
and faggots like you stand by and do nothing but comment thinking you're any better

[Anonymous No.9822020]

>>9821852
Never has a generation so poorly grounded in scientific principle and education been sold such an enormous lie. Only the lie of communism sold to illiterate Russian serfs matches the climate changes deluded and false paradigm.

Tell me

What years where the last peak temperatures in Europe?

What stage of the milankovitch cycle (actual science) are we on?

Are you aware there was a consensus amongst climatologists in the 70s that we were approaching a new ice age?

Why were they wrong?

If they were wrong then what makes you think that computer models based on vanishingly small relevant sampling are any more relevant than the climate in world of warcraft?

If a group of people have an evident economic and social incentive to propagate a weak theory (the statistical modelling on climate change is beyond absurd) is it not reasonable to e particularly sceptical about it?

Seems like environmentalism is moving from being an authoritarian faith based cult to an apocalyptic cult.

[Anonymous No.9822038]

[Anonymous No.9822046]

[Anonymous No.9822058]

[Anonymous No.9822065]

scariest part is that its so easy to believe the world will go on forever, when in reality we are a blip of chance in our solar system that could be disrupted and die off real quick.

[Anonymous No.9822069]

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[Anonymous No.9822095]

>>9822046
>scientists were wrong once so they must be wrong now
I'm not saying I believe in climate change, I'm saying your argument is fallacious.

[Anonymous No.9822097]

>>9821852
So in the 70s you would have believed climatologists telling you a 'new ice age' was coming.

Now you believe that 'global warming' is going to create chaos based on the same bad science and pathetic university departments.

You are stupid.

[Anonymous No.9822124]

>>9822095
>>scientists were wrong once so they must be wrong nowI'm not saying I believe in climate change, I'm saying your argument is fallacious.


'Scientists' (and I am loathe to call man made global warming theorists that) were wrong then so there is zero assurance they are right now either and what is remarkable is that they are consistent in making apocalyptic predictions based on statistically irrelevant sampling and woefully inaccurate models and profiting from making such preposterous claims.,.

So in short, you're stupid, gullible..

[Anonymous No.9822136]

>>9822097
the amount of cope brainwashed burguers are displaying in this thread is an ecological catastrophe in itself

[Anonymous No.9822177]

>>9822136
>the amount of cope brainwashed burguers are displaying in this thread is an ecological catastrophe in itself

The millennial generation are the most poorly educated, over socialised, brainwashed generation born in the last thousand years. Something as unscientific as global warming naturally appeals to them.

BTW How many professors lecturing in climatology have you actualy discussed this with?

Because my views are based on a series of lengthy in person conversations with two senior lecturers in climatology. Both of whom freely told me in private that it was complete shit but that if they were to state that in public they would be lynched by their peers who derive massive funding and influence from making dramatic and unscientific claims and that this phenomena is NOT NEW and has been going on in that amazingly inept branch of academia since the 70s.

You are incapable of thinking. Your brain just does what the majority of your peers vocalise. You don't even have a viable individual personality capable of reasoned thought.

[Anonymous No.9822247]

[Anonymous No.9822431]

>>9819186
doesn't matter. 1 scientist from exxon thought the number was one estimate. could he prove it? nope.
What matters is if its really so bad, what are you going to do about it?

[Anonymous No.9822443]

>>9821745
>So far, I've seen bullshit and little else
>On 4chan
>Notices it's all bullshit

[Anonymous No.9822447]

>>9822247
>new ice age
misinterpretation of 70s tabloid scare articles, there was never overwhelming scientific consensus that the earth was going to freeze over

>acid rain
acidified rain was and is real, you think it's not because it's not literally green sizzling cartoon acid like you expected it to be

>hole in the ozone
was real until we banned the fucking CFCs that were eating it, and it began to regenerate. Seems like a new abundance of related unbanned chemicals are possibly devouring it again now.

>global warming
yes

>climate change
yes, because while the globe is getting warmer on average, some localized climates are seeing cooler weather in the short term, and climate change better encompasses other consequences of warming like stronger storms/higher tides/etc that GW doesn't do justice to.

[Anonymous No.9822477]

Temperature is bull trapping
Shorting Celsius with 100x leverage, wish me luck

[Anonymous No.9822483]

literally who cares. if things get bad I'll just kms, easy

[Anonymous No.9822486]

>>9822095
>I'm saying your argument is fallacious
>Misstates the argument so he can attack it.

Scientists were wrong 40 years ago, why can't the be wrong now? Weren't they using the scientific method?

[Anonymous No.9822495]

>>9821582
im laughing so hard at some of you retards

[Anonymous No.9822503]

This is an interesting topic. Here's a bump.

[Anonymous No.9822763]

>>9822495
Then you must find yourself to be a riot

[Anonymous No.9822993]

Unfortunately most scientists and engineers (who cares about the morality as long as I get to work on cool stuff and get paid for it: ex. Manhattan Project) try to legitimise 'progress traps' encountered by 'unconscious capitalism'. With science at its current arrogant attitude, it tries to play god without morality and honesty and empathy implicit to such a Godly being.

[Anonymous No.9823201]

>>9822993
manhattan project was immoral?
nuclear weapons is a game of who gets it first. if germany got it first its quite possible they'd have forced the UK to surrender instead of Japan.
The most natural law of the universe is power. Without power there is no foundation for morals to sit on, because it can not be enforced.

[Anonymous No.9823217]

>>9822993
At the end of the day, scientists in general are just as ego-driven and self-serving as the common person.

[Anonymous No.9823362]

>>9816007
consider this:
what is a chemical property of water when it gets warmer?
RIGHT it can't hold as much dissolved gas as cold water.
so, if co2 leads to warmer oceans, that must lead to more co2 which leads to warmer oceans which leads to more co2 ...
if you are feeling fear and cannot think clearly after hearing this, you've been indoctrinated
if you can logically think, think about volcanoes and why the earth hasn't stayed warm since the beginning of primeval time
co2 is possibly a hoax and I don't get why anyone would insist on this
Destroying nature, creating trash and using up resources (like rare-earths) are definitely BIG problems which need to be solved if humanity wants to keep the planet around roughly as is

My general take is, men should serve the earth and not vice-versa
Keeping ones home clean is crucial. when you have a shit home, you'll have a shit life

[Anonymous No.9823463]

>>9823217
This.
Even a scientist is subject to usual human follies and biases.

[Anonymous No.9823479]

>>9823362
Simple but golden words. Thanks Anon

[Anonymous No.9823747]

>>9808783
I guess this is the new delusional meme? Since nothing else has happened, that you faggots predicted?

>Institutional money any time now
>Soros buying in!
>Wall Street bonuses!
> Goldman Sachs buying in!
> Retailers coming!
>Tax refunds coming!

You're so fucking desperate, and all you have left is THE SKY IS COMING BULL RUN CONFIRMED.

LOL.

Could you be more pathetic, if you tried?

[Anonymous No.9823809]

>>9811106
>Global Warming was so hard to sell to smart people it was changed to Climate Change.
>hard to sell to smart people
lmao, au contraire people said that snow and atypically cold months, measured in the shortest time frame, disproved global warming because the term had "warming" in it and retards took those instances of cold as disproving the theory.

I would think that /biz/ of all boards with its intellectual skirmishes with ta should be weary of apophenia and wouldn't turn to a "model" where the historically, nay even geologically radical temperature increase in time is part of a bunch of convenient cycles that happen to add up to a good outcome in the end. It's ridiculous and by now humanity will soon reap what it's sown regardless of your ignorance due to several tipping points being passed.

[Anonymous No.9823812]

>>9808783
I'll just stay inside and watch anime. Japan will do okay due to their no-immigration policy so the supply of new anime will continue to flow uninterrupted.

[Anonymous No.9824169]

Too bad you niggers aren't that knowledgeable on how to make some fucking money.

[Anonymous No.9824176]

>>9808910
THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET

[Anonymous No.9824603]

Numerology and fake news Jesus Christ is this some new pajeet shill tactic?

[Anonymous No.9824611]

>>9808783
if time is infinite resource then, yes, everything will go back to dust...

[Anonymous No.9824865]

CAUCASIA IS AT WAR WITH GAYSIA. CAUCASIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH GAYSIA

[Anonymous No.9824988]

>>9808910
blablabla I'm not listening to your facts because they hurt my feelings. Obviously global collapse will be caused by the JEWS and GLOBALIST DEEP STATE. Climate change is not real even though all scientists say it's real because I'm an edgy contrarian on 4chan who just wants to trigger the libz. Haha you mad triggered bluepill commie?

[Anonymous No.9825004]

>>9812160
Wow such great insight with zero (0) arguments. Wow please tell me more you wise man, I want to be a redpill Übermensch like you. Europe will collapse in 20-30 years, such a prophet

[Anonymous No.9825042]

It's absolutely amazing how people come with genuine well written posts and arguments and the only thing pepe lords can say is: "blue pilled commie lmao". I mean do you have zero selfreflection? Why would you believe such simple and basic information from grainy internet images over scientific consensus? Why can't you formulate a single coherent argument? Just one, one single coherent argument?

[Anonymous No.9825060]

>>9825042
This is also the reason no one will ever take the 'alt right' seriously. But that is exactly what you want. You want to be the outsider with the weird beliefs and conspiracies, you want to be apart from the masses and society because it gives your life meaning. You want to be the victim, the enlightened individual who looks upon the masses as foolish. This can be attained by reading philosophy, not believing in retarded conspiracies. Get off your ass and read a book fags