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>> No.9900257

>>9900240
lmao last-ditch effort by americucks to get a hold over China

>> No.9900282

>china sells $1 trillion dollars of USD in your global direction and nukes the US economy for a decade
No wonder this fuckwit bankrupts all the time

>> No.9900283

>>9900240
How about those debts America owes China? Think they will be willing to continue to lend us money?
Short USD

>> No.9900286

Oh wow, TRX gonna be so valuable.

>> No.9900298
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9900298

>>9900240
>meanwhile at the S&P

>> No.9900307

>>9900240
And finally he killed US... Good luck with the debts, China will fuck you up

>> No.9900312

>>9900240
this is good for bitcoin

>> No.9900330

>>9900240
>The United States Trade Representative said the U.S. will initially impose a set of tariffs on 818 items worth about $34 billion on July 6.
>Separate measures affecting 284 products worth about $16 billion could take effect following a review and public comment process.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html

>TOTAL 2017
>505,470.0 (million)
>less than 7% of all imports

>>9900282
>implying Chinese would willfully sell US treasuries at a low yield and let the Yuan destabalize

>>9900283
that's now how it works.

>> No.9900357

>has an economy based on manufacturing cheap stuff overseas
>put tariffs on his own companies
He should have kept to real estate.

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9900361

>>9900330
Go away grandpa.

>> No.9900369

>>9900330
> that's now how it works.
that is NOW how it works

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9900382

brainlet here, what are tariffs?

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9900384

>most of the goods sold in the US are made in china
>the goods are made for US companies
Hmmmmmmm

>> No.9900390

>>9900361
Not an argument. Not relevant either. Not even remotely correct. China ain't fire-selling shit.

>>9900369
well fuck, you got me. Freudian Slip. Well spotted mate.

>> No.9900402

>>9900384
By US companies too kek.
>dollar getting stronger
>raped by tariffs
Bye bye US competitivity

>> No.9900408

>>9900382
tax on imports to the USA

>> No.9900426

>TAX placed on imports
>Trade balance creates the biggest surplus of all time
>7 trillion in tax revenue in the first week
>Trump single handly corrects national debt

>> No.9900439

>>9900382
Remember how you were poor?
When the cost of living rockets up you'll realize you used to be rich and haven't seen poor yet

>> No.9900473

>>9900439
Lets all hope it doesn't come to this. People will literally be dieing in the streets for USD whales to make their point in a trade war.
The effects will be a lot like US sanctions on other countries has played out.

>> No.9900508

>>9900240
>suddenly thousands of injection plastic molding jobs created in the US
>with $15/hr min wage neets can finallly afford the IKEA lamp they always wanted
th-thanks Mr.Trump

>> No.9900517

Stay in debt or make a transition to get out of debt. I like this move. It will make USA-made products more attractive and worth making again. China products are piss-poor and made by slaves.

>> No.9900524

>>9900517
made by robots, like the us equivalent will be.

>> No.9900536

>>9900517
>us products
>attractive
How? China will retaliate with even harsher tariffs that will have a greater affect on the US. Also how are the US going to pay off their China debts if they can't afford to import the products they need to sell?

>> No.9900542

>>9900517
>implying burgers will be able to afford burger-made burgers

>> No.9900546

So like why not just make more goods in the U.S., reducing costs and creating jobs

>> No.9900557

>>9900546
Making goods in the US raise costs by 1000%.

>> No.9900560

>>9900282
You stupid braindead nigger....we were 20 trillion in debt before trump even announced he was running for president

>> No.9900565
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9900565

Who else is stocking up on silver pandas?

>> No.9900568

>>9900560
What part of what I said in what you are replying to said ANYTHING about debt? China owns 3.1 trillion US dollars right at this moment.

>> No.9900569

>>9900439
Trump is obviously on a mission to create a larger wealth divide in the US. Everything he is doing is driving the dollar down and putting proportionally more of them in the ultra wealthy’s hands. Poor stupid Trump supporters say things like “I’m getting more money I don’t care if rich people get more too”, but don’t consider that their dollars are going to be worth less and their standard of living will actually be going down despite having more dollars. While this is happening, rich people are accumulating WAY more dollars and will indefinitely be able to live wealth and keep poor people stifled and controlled. Even if dollar value were to rise again, Trump is ensuring cost of goods is also rising so that only rich people will be able to afford any luxuries at all, or in many cases things the currently consider normal amenities and services such as being able to replace a window in their home when it breaks.
The stupidity of the American poor is their downfall. The rich have done a good job of ensuring control by creating a country where private education comes at too high of a price and public education is awful, and so poor people continue to be stupid and don’t understand their own plight or how to fix it. Cue some fucking brain dead celebrity putting $1,000 in their pocket and that’s all they’re even considering. Meanwhile that same celebrity is laughing at them because he used to be a failed businessman and has finally found a way to manipulate poor people to enhance his own wealth. On top of that, he is a classic narcissist and egomaniac, the exact kind of personality who does not care about others and will walk all over them to meet his own needs. And yet poor people still only see the $1,000.

>> No.9900579

>>9900536
So wtf do you suggest? Continue letting china milk us like the last 5 presidents did? Until nobody has a fuckig job anymore?

China might still fuck us but at least trump is trying to give us a chance by ramping up our manufacturing that has been decimated by the deep state

>> No.9900588

>>9900536
You sincerely doubt how huge America is compared to its population. America only trades with other countries to be friendly at this point. They need our money, not the other way around

>> No.9900589

>>9900579
>deep state
There is how you expose you are a retard conspiracy theorist.

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9900597

>>9900557
Making your own goods increases the cost to buy those good from yourself?

>> No.9900600

>>9900560
The US trade deficit is much larger than the crypto market cap. http://www.usdebtclock.org/
And that's real USD, not the last trade price * circulating supply illusion.

>> No.9900613

>>9900589
The question still stands. Wtf do you suggest trump does? Stick with the same gameplan the last few presidents have done by destroying our manufacturing??

Deep stare or not.... our manufacturing has been GUTTED. And we have fiat currency that becomes more worthless which prompts these countries to impose tariffs on us.

So wtf do you sugges trrump do?

>> No.9900616

>>9900588
>America only trades with other countries to be friendly at this point.
The delusion

The US trades with other countries because its manufacturing is fucking shit. Look at americars, they are fucking garbage compared to everyone else.

>> No.9900628

>>9900613
Half its defence budget is a start.

>> No.9900633

>>9900597
What many brainlets do not understand is that purchasing power comes from production.

If you don't produce you die.

You think china is going to be trading in dollars for the next 50 years?

They already have yuan oil futures contracts backed by gold

>> No.9900634

>>9900579
You do realize manufacturing jobs both here and in China are disappearing thanks to advanced robotics, right? The country that gets rid of them completely first and can reduce cost of goods and export cheaper is the one that wins. You somehow think increasing manufacturing jobs, which is incredibly costly, will result in businesses succeeding, while all of their global competitors are paying way less to manufacture thanks to robotics? The US market alone is not enough to support the jobs we need, and even if it was we would have to charge so much for goods due to the high cost to make them that none of those people working the manufacturing jobs would be able to afford what they’re actually making.

Open your eyes. Reverting to a 1950’s era economy when the rest of the world is moving towards a 2020 economy is going to kill the US. It will legitimately enter third world territory, where the poor do all of the labor and get none of the fruits of that labor, and the ultra wealthy sit in their high horses and have no reason to change anything. And the middle class slowly dissipates.

>> No.9900645

Trade is a two way street friends. More tariffs on Chinese goods entering the USA only means Americans must pay more for those goods.

Americans are not a charity, they bought from China because they had value.

Either the extra costs are absorbed by Americans, or they find someone else to supply them with the goods at the same price.

>> No.9900648

>>9900633
So why aren't we producing more?

>> No.9900649

>>9900613
Maybe encourage research into robotics and AI as applied to manufacture of goods? That would actually require understanding implications of applied arising technology.
Pretty difficult for an old fat piece of shit with dementia.

>> No.9900650

>>9900597
Making your own goods is more expensive if the minimum wage is 7$ an hour rather than buying them from people working for 7$ a month.

>> No.9900653

>>9900628
I agree but unironically our military gives us the leverage and time to ramp our manufacturing back up before china let's the dollar go

>> No.9900660

>>9900653
The US has no WW2 era war to use the industrial-military complex to its advantage to stop a great depression.

>> No.9900671

>>9900650
Trump didn't take us off the gold standard either. That 7$/hour used to be great income in the 50's. Not anymore tho

>> No.9900673

>>9900597
Yes because people in the US do not work for pennies retard. You will see a huge price increase if you need to buy all your goods from people in your country. AKA protectionism

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9900674

Wow, its fucking nothing
like all the other times

>> No.9900679

>>9900650
Its no longer people creating goods. This is a mentality of scarcity and it has no bearing on reality despite how strongly it's stated or believed in.
It's all robots and they are getting exponentially better.

>> No.9900689

>the world of Detroit Become Human is actually coming true
Can't wait for all the robots taking jobs and 40% unemployment in 25 years

>> No.9900691

>US middle class being shat on by tariffs-induced inflation
Oh say can you see

>> No.9900694

>>9900660
Brainlet... the depression ended after WW2 when govt wasn't spending money on war anymore. And people could actually save and produce and create a higher standard of living.

The war didn't get us out of the depression....stopping spending on the war did.

>> No.9900696

>>9900589
cia niggers get the fuck out

>> No.9900704

>>9900679
Automation is not there yet, people still work in factories.

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9900705

>ITT: retard commies jacking each other off over doomsday fantasy

>> No.9900722

>>9900694
But the US wasn't in a war until 1942 you fucking trumptard. The depression ended not long after the war started. There was massive anxiety after WW2 ended that the economy would revolt back into shit. So what do they do? Create the cold war so they can spend trillions on weapons, wars and nukes. There is a reason why Eisenhower warned against the military-industrial complex

>> No.9900733

>>9900357
Not like he is good at that either.
Two years and cant even get a fucking wall started, literally the most basic shit in civil engineering.

>> No.9900742

>>9900307
>t. 19 year old retard
China needs America more than America needs China. Their entire economy would cease to exist if America didn't buy all their cheap shit and provide intellectual property for them to steal.

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9900748

Friendly reminder Trump won, he will win again, and theres nothing you brainlets can do about it :)

>> No.9900764

>>9900748
nobody cares about trump
your country is dying and there's nothing you can do about it
tell your kids to learn mandarin

>> No.9900777

>>9900742
>t. coping boomer.
China can single handed destroy US with the debts they are holding, but you are so fucking blinded by your 20trillion national debt that you don't even care anymore. Keep up your great eco

>> No.9900779

>>9900524
not everything is made by robots

>>9900536
>It will make USA-made products more attractive and worth making again.
You think shit can only be made in China?

>>9900542
Well we did at one point.

>> No.9900781

>>9900705
>just fucking pour all money into automation and give me ubi

>> No.9900782

>>9900742
China produce things
US buys things with debt
The later is clearly dependant on the former.

>> No.9900799

>>9900722
Why did the Great Depression last so long? BecUse the govt was spending and wasting money. Doesn't matter if you spend it on war or work programs. Govt spending money mis allocates resources.

We haven't had free market capitalism since 1913. The fed fucked everything up. The fed screwed up the economy and the fed is the reason all these wars are created.

>> No.9900811

>>9900722
The prosperity of the 1950's was payback for all the free market capitalism of the 19th century

>> No.9900816

>>9900777
checked and kek oh gad the lord

>> No.9900818

>>9900565
The mintage skyrocketed on these fuckers since 2010/2011. They are much less attractive now.

>> No.9900827

>>9900799
aww its same retard Ancap that comes here everyday

>> No.9900832

>>9900240
Noice

>> No.9900837

>>9900240

>Protecting Chinese manufacturing dumping garbage on the US markets for nothing in return

Wow, /biz/ really is retarded.

>> No.9900846

>>9900811
Actually, it is a result of giving slaves their freedom, your shitlord.

>> No.9900864

>>9900616
What first world country has a big manufacturing industry? There is no way you can be competitive with slave labor your only options are to outsource or automate. Right now we outsource but soon automation and AI will take over that whole industry and then China is fucked.

>> No.9900939

>>9900846
What's wrong with slaves? Slaves have been the norm before human history. Those black slaves were already slaves in Africa so why not use them here where a white man actually has the brains to plan a prosperous society?

Every great civilization was built on the backs of slaves.

You fucking cuck faggots probably actually think slaverybwas invented and patented in America.

There are millions of slaves in Africa today in the year 2018. More than any southern plantation owner could have ever dreamt

>> No.9900959

ITT: kids who buy crypto and don't understand economics discuss why you shouldn't trust Celestials.

Some people are hating on Trump with no logical support for hating on Trump (no surprise), but absolutely every comment is entirely against China and suggests something must be done. Hmmm, shocking that someone would actually try to do something about China, then.

>> No.9900960

"Written history"

>> No.9900975

>>9900846
Also slavery never ended in America. Blacks are enslaved through social programs now. Go to any ghetto and open your eyes and you'll see slavery never stopped.

>> No.9900980

>>9900240
>intelelctual copyright
>theft
ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>> No.9900994

>>9900864
The Eurozone has a litteral positive trade balance lad.

>> No.9901002

>>9900382

Crypto has ruined this board ffs

>> No.9901049

>>9900777
nice digits but you have a simplistic view of the world as most brainlets do. that debt will never be collected. the yuan is pegged to the dollar if America goes down China goes down the chinks aren't going to commit economic suicide.

>> No.9901076

>>9901049
China won't go down. China has been accumulating record tonnage of gold for a reason. Chinese citizens collectively own 6k tons of gold in their hands.

What? You think China's long term gameplan is to rely on the dollar forever?

>> No.9901091

>>9900782
Most of what China produces is American products where raw materials are shipped there for manufacturing and then finished product is shipped back. That will start declining sharply as automation gets better and more affordable.

>> No.9901108

>>9901091
Pretty nice delusion, I bet you never, ever saw an industrial robot in your life tho.

>> No.9901110

>>9900994
Trade =/= manufacturing

>> No.9901119

>>9900781
>dude robotics are going to replace everything, haven't you seen that 2012 youtube video proving humans will be obsolete in 5 years

>> No.9901155

>>9901076
Not forever but the main reason they are able to remain so competitive is because they keep devaluing their currency. If yuan isn't pegged to the dollar they can no longer do that and their exports will suffer massively.

>> No.9901166

>>9900613
are you literally retarded? "BUT THEY TOOK OUR JOBS" why don't you go read a book and actually learn how the economy works before spouting off nonsense. Manufacturing jobs are not coming back, it is too costly to manufacture goods in a first world country. Not to mention our economy relies on the outsourced low cost labor for inputs into pretty much every industry. Low cost labor is the fuel in our economy but you trumptards could never wrap your head around that

>> No.9901184

>>9901108
I used to work in industrial automation. If you think AI and automation isn't going to take over manufacturing I don't know what to tell you. The evidence is all around you.

>> No.9901192

>>9901184
I currently work in manufacturing r&d. What did you do ?

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9901194

>>9900597
Holy fuck you're a brainlet.
yes, because the PPP of China is substantially lower than the U.S.
Also it's hard to build 'differentiation' into labor intensive jobs like manufacturing (it's called the 'Smile Curve' although it looks more like a Smirk). Coupled that with the lower cost of materials in China, and a competitive environment that means that investors into Chinese manufacturers will accept lower profit margins than U.S. investors products in China can be produced and shipped to the United States far cheaper than they can in the United States.
Because - 1. labor costs are higher in the United States, 2. raw materials are more expensive 3. if you say to investors looking for capital 'hey I'm going to go into direct competition with Chinese manufacturers in this low-margin business' they will laugh you out of the room: you can't start up a company doing that.
This is why there's such a push to automation, because if done right you can almost totally cut out the labor costs
>look at Tesla to see why it's a long way off yet, misaligned parts are a problem Japanese car manufactures noticed decades ago and have been using humans on the end of production lines to avoid mistakes with

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>>9901194
Smile Curve backed up with actual data
See what I mean it looks more like a 'smirk'

>> No.9901241

>>9900282
>hundreds of businesses
>no personal bankruptcy
>four standard chapter 4 filings for some of his businesses
>96% success rate

I don't even like Trump but you have to be a brainlet to buy in to weak fud like that.

>> No.9901245

>>9901166
Fiat currency not backed by gold enabled that need for low cost labor while they gut American manufacturers. If you can't see it was all by design to fuck regular Americans I don't know what to tell you.

It's you that doesn't understand the economy and that you need REAL money backing the currency otherwise your forced to outsource cheap labor.

Our govt priced its own citizens out of the market. You think manufacturing just magically left here without any sort of engineering going on?

>> No.9901246

>>9900426
This, the brainlets here actually think Trump doesn’t have multiple angles on everything he does. They literally think they’re smarter than Trump. It’s glaringly obvious when people know fuck all about persuasion, they’re the ones who keep getting btfo.

>> No.9901258

>>9901241
Kek never thought to look at it as fud until now

>> No.9901273

>>9900402
>raped by tariffs
You know there's another option, right? We're gonna moon.

>> No.9901278

>>9901246
>know fuck all about persuasion
Did you have your simultaneous sip today?

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9901292

Europoors are so used to taking it in the ass negotiation wise, when they see real negotiation tactics they go into full reddit upboat moral high ground virtue signal mode. Stay poor faggots, also all the redditors really out themselves with Trump threads..

>> No.9901306

>>9901258
MSM, cable news, etc are all pajeet pnd whores in terms of political favor and power.

>> No.9901308

>>9900975
are you baiting me? You have to be, right?

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9901327

>>9901278
About to, Scott Adams has been blowing my mind lately. So much good info in such little time, the value is insane, he could be charging for this.

>> No.9901336

>>9901306
I knew they were all full of shit before, but now...viewing them as pajeets who are shilling worthless ideas instead of coins here...I’m never going to see the world the same again, biz is everywhere

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>>9900645
THIS THIS AND THIS. Read this post you fucking mongs. This forces American companies to:

A. Keep importing and pay the 25% tariff, which helps the US economy
B. Produce goods in America, which helps the US economy

It's win-win no matter which choice the companies make.

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9901357

>>9900975
100% soiylent reddit posting. Maybe put down the cup of soiye, you’ve had enough for today.

>> No.9901361

>>9901345

Both of those options increase prices for the consumer, retard.

>> No.9901378

>>9901361
Who cares about the burger poorfags and middle class ?

>> No.9901391

>>9901361
Maybe stop being poor or stop buying useless shit you don't need?

If anything, I'll be a bit saddened by the increase in prices of teas imported from China, but eh, I'll survive.

>> No.9901396

>>9901308
Not baiting you at all with this....

Also slavery never ended in America. Blacks are enslaved through social programs now. Go to any ghetto and open your eyes and you'll see slavery never stopped.

Think about this....... the left consider themselves intellectuals and always boasting about their IQ.....

Yet they vote the same way as 90% of black people. And black people are the stupidest group of people on the planet.

>> No.9901406

>>9901327
Ehhh I wouldn't buy it. Like he's about 30% gold, 70% self congratulating obscurantist bullshit. Maybe I've just read a lot about rhetoric and sales, but like so much of what he says is just repacking pretty common information with confusing new labels
>'think past the sale' = 'assume the close'
>'high ground maneuver' = normalizing and looking at the big picture
>'the fact's don't matter' = "The most potent way to move an audience to your point of view is to reach their feelings, and not their brains" - Stanley Kubrick probably in the 70's
>simultaneous sip = 'mirroring'
I'm sure I could go on, i guess if it's new to you then that's good. But it kind of irritates me because I would think I had discovered this new guru who was speaking in this totally new vocabulary and realize he was talking about shit I already knew.

>> No.9901414

>>9901406
I could have probably cited Hitler or even Aristotle's 'pathos' for 'facts don't matter' but that was the only example I had close to hand... which says a lot that I had it close to hand

>> No.9901435

>>9900536
They can only retaliate so much. They sell 450B, America sells 100B. When the imbalance is that big there's only so much you can do.

>> No.9901470

>>9901345
You are actually misunderstanding the situation. If American companies cannot find a suitable replacement this will increase prices which directly affect the amount consumers can spend. Also include the cost of American exports that rely on Chinese parts. Trade is a two way street meaning both sides will lose and gain in some respects, but the overall efficiency of the market will be reduced.

>> No.9901472

>>9901406
He’s really good at master level stuff, when you start to understand persuasion it’s incredibly obvious the low level tier persuasion he uses on the audience. He does it on purpose though because he has new viewers everyday. The low level stuff works on normies and you have to use it to keep them coming back. Also if you want a masterclass in persuasion listen to his debate with Sam Harris. He reduced Harris into a stuttering mess, he was literally inside sams brain rewiring it.

>> No.9901476

>>9901361
The US is the first world country in the world with most of its GDP (70%) oriented towards consumption. Countries like China and Singapore have this number below 40%. An economy cannot be oriented towards consumption for long periods of time because you go too much into debt, which is what has happened in the US. At some point you have to move out of this or everyone is fucked in the long run. The turn is now happening for the US and you guys will have to deal with higher prices for a while. Although one of the ideas is that these tariffs will make the price of dollar higher and the yuan lower, which will hopefully offset part of the tariffs, but I can't know if this will happen for sure.

>> No.9901498

>>9901435
Tariffs are self-mutilating. It’s not just ‘trade imbalances are bad’. Americans bought Chinese goods because they had value. Tariffs will kill Chinese jobs but at the cost of making American consumers pay more for their goods and any refined goods that require Chinese parts will cost more on the international market, making American exports less competitive.

>> No.9901522

We need to ban intellectual property.

>> No.9901534

>>9901396
I think you have slavery and oppressed mixed up breh. Not slaves because they aren’t doing shiiit. Oppressed yes, because they can’t do shiiiiit.

>> No.9901536

>>9901498
Tariffs should be up by 75% to actually kill chinese jobs. It will simply raise prices for US businesses and consumers. It's a badly throught-out VAT, if you prefer.

>> No.9901544

>>9901498
They are self-mutilating but like I said, if China retaliates, the US retaliates, and this goes on until there's nothing China can do anymore. Both parties will lose but China will always lose more.

>> No.9901574

>>9901522
You wont have to when crypto monitizes piracy

>> No.9901576

>>9901522
This

>> No.9901605

>>9901472
>when you start to understand persuasion it’s incredibly obvious the low level tier persuasion
that's for sure. He's so painfully obvious at re-framing. And the whole 'Dale' bit, which while funny, I just feel like 'don't fucking patronize me by literally reducing the opposition to a weak tissue-paper cartoon character'. And on that note what I did learn form Adams 100% is he opened my eyes to what I would call 'visual rhetoric' - how Trump actually is very good at using language to put across visual ideas, but also visually encapsulating the qualities he wants to communicate
National Security? A wall. Even if it was a metaphor it's a fucking visual metaphor. A fucking wall.
When he imitates Hilary (and many others, but especially her), watch his body language he shakes about like she's indecisive or as Scott likes to keep emphasizing "crooked"
Who were his first two picks for Secretary of State: Mitt Romney and Rex Tillerson? Why? Silverhaired No-Nonsense guys.
I could go on and on, but that's one thing that once I started digging around I realized was a whole realm of communication that is really underutilized. I mean I usually only considered it with print-advertising.

>> No.9901655

>>9901544
China has already announced they will retaliate with the same amount of tariffs on the same amount of goods, we'll see how far it goes.
>average tariffs on chinese goods in the US : +3%
>average tarrifs on US goods in china : +12%
Guess who is gonna suppress who ?

>> No.9901669

You're an idiot if you think this has anything to do with trade imbalances. It's been clear from the beginning that what Trump wants to see is a total disruption of the way the Chinese do business.

This is why there's not more outright rebellion in the business community about what he's doing. They're all well aware of how badly they've been screwed by China and they're just as tired of it as he is.

And for those Republicans that keep complaining to him...well, they're gonna get destroyed in elections, so who gives a fuck what they think?

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>>9901605
It’s an entirely different world. I remember coming across persuasion and thinking it was a crock of shit. Now I think Scott’s right when he talks about tapping into a reality that humans can’t completely grasp. You can place images and situations in people’s minds with words. Their brain HAS to process that information, the brain does it automatically and the listener/viewer has no choice. Trump used persuasion to become the most powerful man on the planet, is persuasion the most powerful tool mankind can have I wonder?

>> No.9901690

>>9900650
If people don't have money and jobs to buy goods from these cheap workers, then all that production is pointless. Supply and demand nigger. Jesus, people in /biz/ are one of the most illiterate pieces of mouth-breathing retards in the history of the earth.

>> No.9901708

>>9901544
China doesn’t have to tariff American imports as retaliation. American import tariffs are self-mutiliating retaliatory acts themselves. If image is all you concern yourself with so be it. There is no ‘they’ll hurt more then we will’ scenario, it’s both sides punching each other and themselves equally.

>> No.9901712

>>9900426
>taxing consumer imports
congratulations you just taxed yourself

>> No.9901714

>>9901391
>saddened by tea price increases

Your tea isn't even on the list. All of the goods are manufacturing or business related.

https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/enforcement/301Investigations/List%201.pdf

>> No.9901715

>>9901690
>unemployement in the US : under 4%
ah yes, "they took er jerbs"

>> No.9901742

>>9901715
>people who have worked one job and later laid off in the past 6 months are included in the "employed" statistics
>MUH FREE AND OPEN TRADE! GUBMINT BE STUPID YO!

Anarcho-capitalists are as stupid as commies.

>> No.9901747

>>9901708
Well, they are retaliating. So double dose of retardedness. Probably good for Europe and Japan tho.

>> No.9901779

>>9900384
Chang, the point of the tariffs is to make sure US manufacturing companies go back making products on the US itself and if they take their factories outside, then they suffer a penalty. Not sure what you're babbling about. It's a hard concept, I know.

>> No.9901786

>>9901675
Except it isn't, people, laypeople, do this all the time. People pick up persuasion from a young age and do it just through passive observation and behaving in ways and getting rewards as a part of basic language acquisition and 'acculturation'.
What Scott's doing, and he's by his own admission not the first but he sure acts like he is (ahhh ~*persuasion*~!), is he's actually pointing out and giving names to those phenomena with a bit more accuracy then those terrrrrrrrrible 'secrets to body language' success books.
It's sort of like when you learn guitar chords and you start to be able to identify the building blocks of progressions in songs, you can mentally pull apart music.

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>>9900742
>China needs America more than America needs China
Almost took you seriously for a moment. But then I remembered no one can be this unironically retarded, especially with such easy access to information nowadays.

>> No.9901794

>>9900240
>accusing beijing of intellectual copyright theft

but all china knows how to do is copy so they're basically fucked.

>> No.9901823

>>9901793
Except he is not wrong. China is developing. US is developed

>> No.9901953

>>9901793
Here's how this works.

China stops selling stuff to the US. The US says, ok, we'll buy it from someone else because we're fucking rich.

The US stops buying stuff from China. China says, ok, we'll start selling to....uh............EU? No, they don't want it. Africa? Er, they got no money? Russia??? No????? Fuck.

The Chinese, of course, have a major political advantage over Trump in that China is a dictatorship and the US is a democracy. Trump is banking on the fact that China will over-reach and try to interfere in US elections, which will give him more than enough ammunition to completely destroy China on the international stage.

>> No.9901983

>Trump idiotically ends the Korean conflict
>Unified Korea, no-longer needing the USA and always hating Japan, swings towards their old daddy China
>USA can't have a fuckton of weapons sitting in range of Beijing anymore because NK isn't a thing
>China can now dump US debt any time they please
>USA literally becomes China's bitch
>Trump wins Nobel Peace Prize

This is going to be fun.

>> No.9901994

>>9901793
Chinks love american luxury products

>> No.9902034

>>9901994
Most of the fashion they're into is European owned, and made in China.
I knew a girl who worked in a LV factory. It was bizarre, they didn't really care if she took stuff off the line sometimes, so she had an apartment full of LV stuff. If she ever needed to give a gift to anyone, just drop an LV bag on them. Normally it'd be 300 bucks, but for her it was valueless. She would've sold them, but it didn't seem right to her. I guess she was worried she'd lose her job.

>> No.9902046

>>9901786
He's referring to the aspect of confirmation bias, different movies ect ect. A person can't see reality for what it is. There is always some aspect interfering with true realital understanding. We as humans can never truly understand reality because we have all of these blockers not allowing us to properly interpret information.

>> No.9902057

>>9901983
>China dumps trillions of dollars
>dollar plummets
>everyone’s debt is 1/10th what it was
> national debt gone
> trade deficit disappears

>> No.9902074

>>9902046
>What is 'Critical Theory'

>> No.9902112

>>9902034
Ah that's funny lol. Check this out it. It mentions there are more chinese consumers of GM cars and iPhones than Americans. Not sure if the trade surplus is accurate since its a total sunmation, but offers a look into some of the US sales bias

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-12/the-1-4-trillion-u-s-surplus-that-trump-s-not-talking-about

>> No.9902123

>>9901953
The african subsahara is now under chinese control
China is selling flip flops in exchange for mining rights
Most of australias mineral exports go to china
The us can and will not win the economic competition with china, especially in a free trade world. Why? China is playing the long game extremely well and the us is financing an overstretched military instead of investing in its economy. Trump is trying to pick up the pieces but its too late. China will rule the next century, unless china decentralizes into local elites - which i see as likely. Still, the fact that they effectively control the mines of this world won't change.

>> No.9902149

>>9902074
Critical theory doesn't magically fix the blockers of the human mind.

>> No.9902153

>>9901983
China doesnt like trading with NK. Japan and SK still concerned about NK and China (bigger picture) so will not welcome US disarmament. Also southeast asia would prefer if the US stays to help shun the chinese island expansion

>> No.9902241

some truly dumb fuckers on this thread

>> No.9902325

>>9902153
>Japan and SK still concerned about NK and China (bigger picture)
As much as Japan is concerned about NK and China, you will find that in Korea, they much prefer China and NK to Japan any day of the week.
The Yanks barged in there and fucked up SK pretty hard until they bucked American development plans in the 60's and 70's and saved themselves more violence and poverty. The Americans do not think about the fact that Korea has always been oriented towards China and against Japan, and that SK was the "occupied" Korea, not NK. SK was seen as a continuation of colonial rule, whereas NK was lead by a patriot who fought the Japanese. South Koreans are not stupid about their security, but they're also no-longer in a dictatorship and are becoming more cognizant of what really happened in the war.

Unified Korea will not be oriented towards the Americans, because that means being against China and with Japan. That might sound believable to Americans, but for most Koreans, that's not realistic. I'm not saying they'll be Communist by any means, but they will have shifted who their big friends are. America will also lose any access to the Yellow Sea, be distant from a strike on Beijing, and no-longer have any relevant military force on the East Asian continent.

America NEEDS North Korea. They give them an excuse to keep dominance over the peninsula, and weapons near Beijing.

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>>9902149
How does Adams do any more of a good job?

>>9902325
good post.

>> No.9902503

>>9900613
Obama's plan of pivot to asia and secure trade agreements and diplomatic soft power of countries around china. If you got trade deals already lined up with countries in the region you can more easily enter a trade war.

>> No.9902565

>>9900240
I'm okay with this.

>> No.9902568

>>9902410
First you have to be aware of the specific psychological universe that humans can only sometimes glimpse. From there you can maneuver around said perception with more proficiency. I'm sure with enough practice you could literally control almost any outcome ie: Trump being the most powerful man on the planet. Adams is already ahead because he's known about this alternate psychological reality for decades.

>> No.9902585

>>9901522
Also this. Patents as they exist today are useless for small inventors and just let big business squash competition.

>> No.9902588

lol at all the retards defending having your industry in china just to get cheaper goods, how fucking jew are you. Get this your money will be worthless one day, only thing that matters is your productive capacity, the size of your industry and how many professionals and abled workers you got, and you're went way down on all those three. Only thing keeping your country afloat is the dollar status which doesnt last forever

>> No.9902596

>>9902325
Good post... Thanks for the insight. I only know what I see on the internet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNIStfey8oU

>> No.9902605

>>9900240
Keep calm and trust Trump.

>> No.9902664

>>9902410
>>9902596
I'm not apologetic for Russia, or a fan of China, but the USA has it's head up it's ass in regards to how much aggression and shortsighted fuckery they caused during and after the Cold War.
The Communists understood independence movements like the Viet Minh or Kim Il Sung's visions for Korea. They understood that people were sick of colonial oppression. And they took advantage of it effectively. America championed itself as the good guy, and promptly wandered around to shit on all those movements for self-determination and independence. They created their own monsters by not being able to see the world from anyone else's point of view, and judging from Afghanistan, Iraq, and now Trump, they still haven't improved. It's disgusting, hypocritical and self-sabotaging.

Plus, left wing American intellectuals blame most of this shit on European colonialism and Empire, totally downplaying what America did to the developing world.

If Trump wants to isolate his country, and turn their backs on everyone else, I say let him. They don't act like anyone else matters, so we shouldn't act like they matter. In my country, many people say "I don't like America, but I like Americans,". Recently that has even been changing. Now people just don't like anything to do with the place. It's obvious that many of them have a critical failure when it comes to trying to see the world from anyone else's point of view, whether that be enemies or allies.

>> No.9902677
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BFF forever

>> No.9902698

Trump is such a fucking idiot. What's missing from that list is tariffs on finished products. When my companies component costs go up 25% how are we going to be able to compete against Chinese Manufacturers who can sell FINISHED GOODS without tariffs. The fuck he is thinking. This is going to destroy what's left of manufacturing the in US.

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>>9902664
>plebbit spacing
>virtue signalling
>group think marxist cognitive dissonance
The soiylent trifecta. Do you have the outfit of pic related?

>> No.9902728

>>9902698
T. knows nothing about negotiating, first reaction to new information is to REEEEEE and have emotional outbursts.
You must be a woman.

>> No.9902736

>>9902708
Kek what a brainlet response. Awh poor mutt got triggered.

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>>9902736
T. projecting triggered brainlet soiylent status

>> No.9902825

>>9902708
i wish the reddit spacing meme would die.

>> No.9902826

>>9902708
>virtue signalling
That's what you're doing, you stupid fuck.
You brought no argument to the table, and just tried to show how you're
>based and redpilled and onions
Or whatever the fuck you kids say these days.

This isn't about your small-minded culture war mutt-problems. It is about real things that happened to real people that left real scars. America's crime is not the degree of suffering which they have caused people, lord knows they've done plenty of good as well. Their crime is in not recognizing any of your wrongdoing outside of your tiny-brained Left-Right dichotomy. If you recognized it, you could learn from it, and the world would be better as a result. Stop wasting your potential.

Also
>fuckwhitepeople shirt
I specifically said you blame things on Europeans to deflect from your idiocy. I don't care if you're black, white, or whatever brand of mixed-breed is trendy there as of recent.

>>9902799
>onions meme
>switch meme
Leave your basement for once.

>> No.9902864

>>9902826
Fucking wordfilter.
First onions was actually onions.
Second onions was glycine max.

>> No.9902881

>>9900257

They shit a missile at him; it’s personal

>> No.9902891

How is raising the cost of living supposed to make America a better place?

>> No.9902910 [DELETED] 

>>9900282
>have thousands of companies
>a few go bankrupt

HURR DURR NO WONDER U SUCK AT BUSINESS

>> No.9902912

>>9902799
>no u
Mutt rhetoric, impressive as always

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>>9902826
>soiylent gets triggered
>doubles down on virtue signalling
>confirms boomer status
>literally repeats antifa tumblr talking points
Way to stand up for your wifes son's future, fuck drumpf and fuck white people right?

>> No.9902937

>>9902664
And which country are you in?

>> No.9902961

>>9902664
>t.Chang

>> No.9902968

>>9900536
>Also how are the US going to pay off their China debts if they can't afford to import the products they need to sell?
The U.S. doesn't need to. More than any other country on the planet, the U.S. could, if it wanted, make all the things it needs for itself due to its vast natural resources and human resources.

That said, even if China refused to trade with the U.S., Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and some European countries could step right in. In fact, Japan would be absolutely ecstatic if China no longer did business with the U.S. They would retake the market share of the electronics industry they used to dominate.

>> No.9902981

>>9902891
This is why we needed Bernie to pay everyone $150 a minute so cost of living stays the same but wages go way up

>> No.9903073

>>9902981
>STEM id
>witty and insightful comment

What's your reddit ID so I can give you gold, sir?

>> No.9903144

>>9902924
>memes
>literally a post of memes
Never mind, you are a child. If not in body then in mind. Is this how you treat people in real life? You see someone criticize your dear leader or your country, and you just start screeching "SOIYBOY SOIYBOY"? You know looking at things from other points of view doesn't mean you have to accept them. But it does let you understand them. And you should understand something before you oppose it blindly. Generally speaking I'm anti-immigration, pro-free trade, and pro-guns. I'm sure I have other more liberal politics that might trigger you, like supporting universal healthcare coverage. I don't give a fuck about tumblr, antifa, virtue signalling, neo-nazis, Alex Jones, Republicans, Democrats, or anything else that you folks seem to think dictates the direction in which the planet spins. Grow up you baby.

>>9902937
I'm Czech. I studied peninsular politics and East Asia trade in South Korea and Japan. I work with businesses there now, so I move around a lot.

>>9902961
Ok.

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>>9903144
>euro trash lecturing Americans
If you oppose Trump you don't understand him. If you don't understand him then you have shit understanding of persuasion and negotiating. Sorry bro, too low iq to understand Trump.

>> No.9903584

>>9903217
>UR JUST DUMB
Great reply.

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>>9900283
>>9900777
When we are talking about these kind of debt it's the creditors who are in trouble, not the entity owing money, the USA aren't really Greece.

China can't damage the US without seriously damaging itself in the process too, despite the rise of a new chinese middle class the economy has been shaped during the last 30 years to export, they don't have the domestic market to absorb what they produce.

People underestimate how much in a strong position the USA still are these days because they did not really flex economically since the end of the Cold War but it's still a self-sufficient "island" with a bigger GDP than the EU and tremendous military presence.

However on the long term it's a very risky business because if europeans and asians decide to really build an Eurasian economic highway America will lose its hegemony fast.
Right now only the chinks really wish that as the europeans are still fervently atlanticist but if they do a 180* and decide to be more friendly and active toward Russia/China/Iran the americans will rapidly be isolated in 2 decades.

That said Trump is right, chinks have expanded unchecked in every domain while cheating their way out without repercussions.
Worse the fact that westerners have been sucking their cocks to get some crumbs of China growth, in the meantime Obama was a wimpy nigger and neocons too obsessed with protecting Israël and meddling in the Middle East to have a strategy.
They must learn that they are not the biggest bullies yet and that the West still dominate them.

>> No.9903967

50cents and shareblue are out in force. Remember /biz/ is a pro Trump board.

>> No.9903987

>>9903809
i honestly can't even imagine what would happen to China if there is some massive crash

>> No.9904054

>>9903987
Lord of the flies gook edition.

>> No.9904127

>>9903987
Tens of millions of factory workers unemployed and political unrest most likely well helped by minorities moving back to their homelands in the countryside (as it would be the perfect pretext for regional revendications).

It would be ugly for everyone else too though, everyone else would enter in some sort of recession, the USA could turn rapidly to shit too with all the racial tension, demographic change and the growing gap between blue coastal states and deep america, perfect occasion to reboot a white america though.

>> No.9904149

>>9900508
you're also forgetting about pocket pussies and dildos.

>> No.9904154

>>9904054
there are billions of them, they could eat each other for a 100 years and you would still have millions. The only thing is American and bigger and heavier, but not enough to make up for the billions of Asians

>> No.9904224

>>9900361
Tell me this isn't real

>> No.9904272

>>9904154
Being billions is a disadvantage when you don't have the space to sustain it.

>> No.9904315

holy shit China is actually going to replace the US as a superpower

time to start learning mandarin and finding a qt azn gf

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>>9902325
>>9902596

Interesting how the American narrative is that China NEEDS North Korea as a buffer and wild scary dog on it's leash. Not the other way around. But both sound kind of plausible. Funny how just framing something can totally make you do a 180* on your views.

This is the genius of Donald Trump

>> No.9904424

Best news this year.
And lol at all the sŏy latte boys scared of the chink.

>> No.9904473

>>9901712
> congratulations you just taxed yourself
Bout time you monopoly man wannabes learned how to buy American made products for a change.

>> No.9904500

Also
>tfw your company bought 2 years worth of cheap ass chink steel 6 months ago because even they knew this was coming

>> No.9904507

>>9904500
i thought chink steel was low quality?

>> No.9904509

>>9900508
>$15/hr min wage
Won't happen before inflation makes it worthless.

>> No.9904510

>>9901194
Interesting, thanks anon.

>> No.9904527

>>9904272
I am not saying anything about maintaining, I am replying to Lord of the Flies.... they can eat each other.

>> No.9904528

>>9900282
>china is communist free laborforce gulag
>treating to nuke US economy
go back to drawing board faggot

>> No.9904535

>>9904507
It is. I work with it. Only 2 places in the world to get the cut of steel we want and one of them is in the EU, so logically we chose the cheaper shittier rice variant.

>> No.9904539

>>9900426
can't fucking wait for crypto

>> No.9904540

>>9904507
Steel comes in grades anon. You buy the grade you need for the project that requires it. No point using turbine quality steel for nails.

>> No.9904598

>>9904540
I machine blades for the machines we sell. In the past 6 months I’ve machined tens of thousands of them. Needless to say, longer lasting steel is something management isn’t willing to invest in. Especially since we’d need to upgrade our in house heat treatment from the glorified toaster it is now and purchase more expensive grinding equipment only to sell FEWER replacement blades.

Planned obsolescence is very real.

>> No.9904603

>>9900799
>Why did the Great Depression last so long?
Because the free market was trying to correct the economy by putting America out of business.

>> No.9904652

>>9900589
>FBI conspires to get a president removed and previously spied on a presidential candidate
>Deep state doesn't exist guys
Get out glow in the dark niggers.

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>>9900240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tE9f4EQSRY&index=2&list=WL

>> No.9905811

>>9900282
They have more to lose than the US, 'fuckwit'.

And
>muh bankruptcies
Fake News guzzling faggot.

>> No.9905862

>>9900240
Dumb dotard

>> No.9905882

>>9900240
if i were china i would have done a 150b retaliation tariff instead of 1:1

>> No.9905884

>>9905811
uh no they dont. is your red hat on too tight?

>> No.9906230

>>9905884
>(1)
Nice argument there, Agent Smith.

China's economy is wholly dependent on US consumerism and nonexistent trade barriers. If China starts selling off USD en masse, the short-term effect would be bad for both countries, but ultimately the Yuan would get obliterated to the point where the Chinks would no longer be able to adequately fund their own National Defense.

The US dollar would still be the world reserve currency and a much more desirable alternative to the Euro (especially given the uncertainty/domestic turmoil they're currently facing), and would be further strengthened by the return of US manufacturing.

>> No.9906247

Based Trump.

>> No.9906251

25% tarriff on 3rd world imports is perfectly reasonable and should have always been in place

>> No.9906472

>>9906230
>and would be further strengthened by the return of US manufacturing.

the absolute state...

>> No.9906641

>>9900240
looks like we really will see a stock crash, gj trump!

>> No.9906889

>>9900565
Just buy generics. When everything falls apart, no one will give a flying shit what animal is on your silver.

>> No.9906948

>>9900748
>thinks Trump will win again.
>won't finish his first term

>> No.9906985

>>9900959
Doing something at all compared to doing something right are different things. You Trumpers are so fucking dumb. This is why he's president. Because you wanted "change" and "something different". The idea was there but the timing was off and backing this fucking Cheeto skinned ape was the wrong answer. It has to be the right different and this piece of shit isn't it. I'd say nice try, but it wasn't.

>> No.9906991

>>9906985
go back to messico

>> No.9907003

>>9900569
bp ignored

>> No.9907067

>>9900283
>shorting usd
>after federal reserve has been lending at low interest rates for too long and is now increasing them

Never gonna make it.

>> No.9907077

>>9902825
Seriously. It's just easier to fucking read.

>> No.9907882

>>9900569
Yeah its so ironic. This is what it looks like to a europoor.

White trash: 'fuck niggers'
Trump: 'fuck niggers'
White trash: 'lets vote for this redpilled alpha'
Trump: 'MAGA' (and rips everbody except his cronies)

This is late stage empire behavior.

>> No.9907930

>>9900799
>Great depression lasted long because of gov spending
> what is the new deal?

Read a history book and learn how to write.

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>>9900569
DUDE it doesn't serve the rich for the currency to devaluate. In fact it serves them even less. Check pic related. It's you.

>> No.9907990

>>9901378
trump supposedly, atleast that's what convinced the rednecks off.

>> No.9908158

>>9907986
> what is the difference between devaluing and devaluating.

He is talking about him inflating the currency, aka devaluing it, this is what trump is doing. This is beneficial too the rich, at the behest of the poor.

This is not the same as devaluating, aka deflation, you fucking retarded redneck nigger tier brains. Maybe read a fucking book you fucking idiot, before He rips you blind to afford the library, public education and your inflated wages that won't buy you shit.

>> No.9908187

>>9907882
nigger detected

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>>9908158
t. Jewbagshekelstein gets triggered.

>> No.9908221

>>9907882

There is no difference between devaluing and devaluation you idiot.

>> No.9908244

>>9908158
Why are you so angry? Go drink a glass of onions.

>> No.9908346

>>9900283
But now the USA owns all 1 trillion dollars of rare earth metals located in North Korea. Incoming 500 million starving in China as mass production moved to Mexico and North American Union becomes reality.

>> No.9908373

>>9900390
A Freudian Slip would indicate that it was sexual in nature. Are you Trumpsexual or something?

>> No.9908431

>>9908346
1 trillion? It's calculated to be around 6-10 trillion, which is why you should invest in north korean companies when they open up for foreign investments.

>> No.9908471

>>9900361
jesus christ...

>> No.9908482
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>>9908431
Holy fuck lol

>> No.9908593

>>9908373
I don't think it has to be of a sexual nature, just of a 'repressed' nature. And no, I ain't Trumposexual, but I do have a hard-on for winning... and brunettes.

>> No.9908714

>>9900579
>anons confusing secret societies with the "deep state" beaureaucrats

>> No.9908734

>>9908346
>Incoming 500 million starving in China as mass production moved
you are implying that the chinese govt will let this happen

>to Mexico
and that mexicans are competent enough.

lol.

>> No.9908771

>>9908734
Mexicans are competent enough to work slave labor. The Chinese cannot feed all of their insects anyway. Famine is inevitable. And the Chinese government would absolutely move to protect critical infrastructure rather than individual citizens. 50 million dead minimum.

>> No.9909511

>>9901241
96% success rate? You should be looking it as a % of money...
>open 100 hot dog stands that succeed
>raise $5 billion dollars for casino venture then fail!
What a business man!
He hasn’t even beat the stock market

>> No.9909518

>>9900426
>doesn’t understand every OE Trump signs is somehow is benifeting him personally or Kushner or one go his kike friends
>doesn’t understand Trump is on a faster pace than Obama running a higher national debt
>doesn’t understand Trump signed the largest government spending bill in history TWICE, and both times slipped a massive handout to Israel
>MAGA

>> No.9909525

>>9901345
Imagine being this retarded

>> No.9909539

>>9900240
will this mean china dumps?
should i buy emerging market ETFs?

>> No.9909577

>>9906230
imagine thinking us manufacturing can comeback.

>> No.9909869

soiboys are gonna have to find their workboots

>> No.9909875

>>9900628
defence budget is a myth.
Or rather offense budget?

When was the last time we use our military for defense?

>> No.9909984

>>9901091
>affordable?

Are you ready to pay $5000 for an iPhone?

>> No.9910010

>>9909539

china is going to collapse

>>9909875

the point of strong military is that you do not get invaded. ever. if you want peace prepare for war. If US becomes weak youll see the fucking chinks go genocide on whites again. (western china used to be white)

>> No.9910047

>>9901184
automation equal the corporation don't need human employees. The poor become poorer. Why are you happy with that?

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>>9900283
>>9900282
You do realize that 90% of the debt is held by U.S Citizens? And of that small amount that China holds, is in government funds? If china does decide to sell, the Fed can just freeze it and our allies will just buy it up. God the amount of uneducated s o y boys in /biz/

>> No.9910069

>>9901184
Tesla tried automation and failed. AI isn't taking over manufacturing anytime soon except in certain niches. We are far from creating smart AI and dexterous machines.

>> No.9910088

>>9901184
You can't get a job market an iPhone even know you try. Your fat burger fingers are too big for the tiny screws just like the robotic arms can't aim at the tiny screw hole. You brainlet

>> No.9910110

>>9907882
>a european complaining about whites calling others niggers

yet you do the same with the migrants.
room temperature iq

>> No.9910908

>>9901076
>Chinese citizens collectively own 6k tons of gold in their hands.
Wow I bet they can't wait to enjoy their 3 grams of gold each when their population hits 2 billion in a few years.

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Lol this thread is prime example of the Chinese sock-puppets who come here to shill their vaporware shitcoins.

Even in a space that is 99% opensource code on github, where all they have to do is give credit/source, they still fucking lie, deceive, and plagiarize blatantly.


This is the chinese way. Chinaman not your friend. Fucking claires (mall store for little girls and teens) went under mainly because they had a recall on children's makeup....for having fuck asbestos. Fucking asbestos. Real nice souless ant people.


Things were made in america. Craftsman tools was made in america until a bunch of ass sniffing boomer mba's thought they were real smart using chinese suicide slave labor to cut costs and give us the same bill. No one wants your shit tin foil toolboxes. This has happened to many companies.

We're bringing things back. Get fucked chinks.