/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10304985
The few lolita I've seen in cities are either coming home from a bar, wearing to pick up something to resize shit etc.

Most active lolita/j-fashon you see is not japanese I found out, most girls who do that wear are doing it who are non japanese native. If anything gyaru is far more popular for actively going out and doing fashion life style changes. I can't count how many I've seen in Fukuoka, let alone nagasaki and osaka.

>>10304922
Idk what you are arguing all about but to an extent western lolita/j-fashion, is basically cosplay at this point there isn't any arguing it here. If you've been to japan for any length of time over a day that wasn't secluded to maids handing you cards in harajuku, ikebukoro, akihabara, shibuya, you know this. It's a non thing, because most girls who do that shit only do it for the stigma, money, and attraction to incel/pervy old me; unless that is what this board wants to attract. You have to be a complete crazy cat lady shut in at this point not to understand the japan you hype it up to be is complete fitction. Shibuyameltdown is a great example of this.

Not trying to shit on japan and say you should abandon your hobby, but realize the west has weird shit when it comes to "do you do japan", most the shit is a shell shock unless you spend only 1 week in tokyo star struck and do some specific events. Just realize the whole "grass is this way and greener here" isn't always true.