/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10546393
read the thread
>>10546050

>>10546394
Sorry and thanks for spoon feeding my blind ass

>>10546392
Pixielocks hasn't been part of the lolita community for years, that's probably why.

>>10546393
it's unlisted but should go public today, the link is in this thread

>>10546391
she actually has gained at least 10 patrons since last night but has lost money on patreon overall

>>10546374
Why is every one of her captions like this? She'll post a coord and then type up three paragraphs about how everything is awful in the world and I don't know if she's trying to get woke points or what but it's really tiring.

>>10546391
>People like WF unfortunately have the power to ruin this community
If the community is this fragile, then good. Let her "ruin" it.

>>10546050
Tyler is an idiot for making this video. I don't care if you're on Lor's side or WF's side, this video didn't need to happen. Tyler is a narcissist who has now twice made videos against Lor's wishes about issues like this. What's worse is all the people in the comments kissing her ass when all she's doing is reviving a dead issue and flogging it back to death.

What's worse is that any actual racists in the community are probably going to feel incredibly validated by this video, and it'll only loop back to prove any points that wf might have been trying to make. WF is annoying as fuck but she's become a reason for any racists in the community to dismiss legitimate concerns that anyone else might have.

Burn lolita YT to the ground and just start over.

>>10546402
Sorry for the "What's worse" use , head hurts

>>10546402
This is what irks me too. If your friend asks you NOT to do this then don't. I really hope Lor calls her out on this, even if privately. She's done this twice, she doesn't care about her feelings at ALL.

>>10546402
She should have made a video about WF desu that chick is cancer

>>10546405
This. WF is trash and so is Tyler for disregarding and infantilizing Lor so hard repeatedly.

Tyler is also a gaslighting shitty person for telling Lor "look I know you got bullied and abused online, but think about how it made ME feel to have to watch you be bullied and abused, think about how the REST OF US are gonna be cancelled because you are way too nice for your own good, you're so selfish."

I used to feel indifferent towards Lor and Tyler both but now while Tyler is right about the situation, he is clearly an awful shitty friend who think she knows best even when someone repeatedly begs her to mind her goddamn business. Lor's worst problem is being too agreeable/nice but that is miles better than Tyler.

>>10546407
This would have made much more sense/been much harder to dismiss. Tyler could have talked about how it is valid for black lolitas to feel isolated or devalued in the community but that that is not an excuse to allow WF to be aggressive and abusive to others when she lives a privileged AF life as a racially ambiguous wealthy person and is a hypocrite

>>10546397
So this is basically only happening in the lolita comm atm because of WF / MC / LS / A etc?

>>10546408
Exactly. The WF call out was warranted, but the way she did it was not. Stop doing things without your friend wanting it. She's capable of making her own choices and Tyler making it about herself is weird.

>>10546391
"Mean girls" may dominate communities at times, but as soon as everyone sees thru their BS, they fall too. Ive seen it happen in other comms not just lolita. And it doesnt bother me that Tyler made this video. If the issue isnt addressed Lor will continue to be a target. Someone had to say it. Standing up for your beliefs will never make a person popular with the masses. She may have lost a few subscribers but it also looks like she also not only gained a few more, as well as a few others bumping up their patreon tiers in support.

>>10546288
$5 PM hasn’t even watched the video

>>10546418
Funny thing is, I saw it as Tyler standing up for a self bludgeoning victim of abuse. As someone who was in an abusive relationship previously and has worked in a toxic abusive environment at my last job, the last 10 minutes of that video were palpable. I was able to end my cycles of abuse but not without having to make a scary job change and dealing with a stalker ex. I was fortunate I had a friend stand up with me against the stalker ex and he was dealt with..my job....no one stood up for me and I endured daily beatdowns from not just my manager but others in the dept. This shit is REAL to me. It feels very personal even though its not about me. But seeing someone else go thru it triggers me and I will not shut my mouth when I see it. We can all help each other grow & do better without turning situations like this into a coordinated online attack.

>>10546422
Actually....check PM's instagram stories. She posted about it immediately last night.

>>10546424
Oh no, I saw the story. But I’m pretty sure she watched about 5 minutes and just decided since Tyler is white what she was saying is racist

>Black women are statistically more likely to die during childbirth than any other race
>Black people being murdered in their own homes by police error
>Black children being discriminated against and bullied in schools
>Trump making actual racists feel comfortable to attack Black people and other minorities in public areas


But Obviously Lor accidentally liking an Instagram post is the most important thing right now, and making her apologize over and over again is going to solve all racism. Got it.

>>10546423
No one is bothered by Tyler standing up for Lor, but Tyler said nothing publicly and then waited until Lor was finally "safe" and it all blew over to shove a wrench in things and made it all about herself with her *it was so selfish of you to let yourself be abused, can't you see how hard it was for me to see that?* talk at the end

BLC also shared MC's story.

>>10546424
god i hate cimone.

>>10546433

Props to pearliecute for stating the obvious (ironic that she's from the UK given Tyler was just shitting on the Brits last time she rushed to babby Lor's defense) about how most of us black lolitas were more than satisfied with Lor's first "my bad" response/really were just worried about her, and Tyler is acting like WF and her minions are at all representative of all PoC or black lolitas at large which is harmful and sort of dampens her point.

>>10546427
"

But Obviously Lor accidentally liking an Instagram post is the most important thing right now, and making her apologize over and over again is going to solve all racism. Got it."

I can't agree more with this quote.

>>10546436
Based on profile pics in the comments, too, it seems like most black girls have similar responses. Tyler could have done this better and actively chose not to so while people aren't upset, we are disappointed.

Everyone seems to be missing the point. Tyler has just as much a right to say how she feels seeing her friend abused as Lor has to being abused if she chooses. Did she overrepresent the anger in response to Lor's actions? Perhaps, but that's subjective. Was the timing of the video off? Yes, but her patrons know she's been working on it since Lor's apology vid and these things take time. The real, REAL issue is that no one seems to want to call WF out for this publicly and tell her to stop being a hateful cunt. Especially other poc. If other poc really disapprove of her actions, there should be a united front saying "You crossed a line, you owned Nazi clothes, you need to shut up, you don't speak for us." But because she's allowed to be a loud obnoxious twat, of course this happened. This is HER doing, not Lor's, not Tyler's, hers. But white people can't say anything because they're racists, and other pocs who speak out will be gaslighted into feeling guilty for not being angry enough. Stop letting this manipulative narcissist speak for everyone. Just look at the way her bullshit is worded. She's acting like some kind of ambassador. Stop. Letting. This. Spoiled. Brat. Speak. For. You.

Tyler is based af for the video. The people who are upset about it didn't watch it or have glass bones and her brand of humor pisses them off I guess. I just subscribed to her patreon actually.

I hope wondercunt falls off the earth soon.

>>10546374
She addmited to not having watched it

Wow, so WF is the only one who can cancel lol ok got it

>>10546451
>Tyler has just as much a right to say how she feels seeing her friend abused as Lor has to being abused if she chooses.

Then she should have said something two weeks ago, before Lor had to post 3 apology statements.

New thread here
>>10546463

>>10546451
Multiple people like >>10546436
have agreed Tyler is right for calling out WF but that they feel off about the response because of the video overall and the way she handled it, for a variety of reasons between acting like we all agreed with WF when any comments section on any of these posts proves otherwise, and the way Tyler has repeatedly gone against her friend's wishes selfishly and in pursuit of juicy drama when it could have been approached differently.

Tons of black jfashion wearers, Lor's followers, etc. have LITERALLY said we think Lor didn't need to apologize that hard or at all, that WF is ridiculous and problematic, etc. None of us really have any power or pull in the community though since all the really efamous lolitas are white and Asian though, so I guess y'all just didn't see it/ignored the comments that are agreeing with you just so you can be mad.

The same way Lor didn't owe the black community an apology, black lolitas don't owe white people the satisfaction of stating what is obvious: WF sucks and is shitty. It's not letting her speak for us if we've said how we feel and y'all want to ignore it to be mad at one or two people none of us like anyway. The same way MAGAtards don't speak for all white people, WF and her mini-mob very obviously don't speak for all black lolitas.

Plus, the same way Lor doesn't want to deal with the SJW backlash, why would black lolitas want to put a target on their back for WFs petty attacks by making a "statment" when none of us are even influential figures anyway? Even then though many people have spoken up about it; is people straight up saying they disagree with WF and Lor didn't do anything wrong not good enough because ONE asshole has a bunch of power and a twitter mob?

>>10546465

>>10546428
How safe was Lor really though? How do we know things were reslly ok with her after the video she made? Just because someone isnt posting daily doesnt mean they are ok after a triggering incident. It only appears to die down because the attackers dont have "new material" to attack.

>>10546469
I put safe in quotes.

Even if she didn't feel safe, this is the second time Tyler has made a video like this after Lor literally begged her not to. WF and co are flaming garbage, but Tyler is a selfish friend for continuing to use Lor as an excuse to stir the pot without/against her consent. A supposed friend would have done something sooner like >>10546462 and others have said. Tyler could have been there for Lor personally and publicly in the middle of it all and improved the way the community responded to it by being more serious with her critique and not a whiny fake news anchor character for once.

>>10546423
This is exactly how I felt. Abusive relationships are extremely difficult to handle on your own, and the only way I was able to break the cycle and leave my abusive ex was with help from someone who was strong, confident, and willing to step in where I couldn't help or defend myself. I saw Tyler's video in a similar light.

>>10546461
kek

How many black lolitas are there now, discouting obese zoomers in shitty taobao not many I would wager. Blacks don't the the monopoly on being oppressed. Im so fucking sick of their whinging and I'm from a country that was colonized by the british empire. Lor obvs wants that yt bux and tylers a closet conservative. You can't be on 4chan without it rubbing off.

>>10546253
>Yeah you just want white people to grovel and beg for forgiveness when they've done nothing more than fucking misclick holy shit

This so damn much.
I'm curious what she wants white jewish girls to do.

>>10546566
WF is Antisemitic, so she wants Jews to shut the fuck up because they're white passing.

>>10546465
You have excellent points and I agree with you however, I think this whole issue has very little to do with actual racism or race. It's about WF and co bulling someone and using racism as a cover to do so, I think the real issue is that everyone allowed this to happen in a public space without intervention and that WF can use real issues as a defence whilst doing so

>>10540103
our comm banned people for shit-talking on cgl even though the mods themselves post on cgl and rc:u regularly. it’s hilarious how ironic it is

>>10546402
>all she's doing is reviving a dead issue and flogging it back to death.
She's a gull. What do you expect?

>What's worse is that any actual racists in the community are probably going to feel incredibly validated by this video
This.

>>10546453
ok tyler lol

>>10546521
those are certainly all words

>>10546050
This was needed. I remember all the anons saying in another thread that she was too sjw to make a video and I'm not disappointed she did. Obviously some of the shit she said is inflammatory, but the overall idea and intention was right.

This whole ordeal started by WF is just top kek

>>10546402
My feelings exactly. The issue was done and dead, but she just NEEDED the extra clout and brought it back up. Tyler was wrong, and we all know it.
Tbh I agree with >>10546216. Their relationship seems off. If Lor was smart, she’d cut Tyler off for this and save what little face she has left. That statement she made on the video did very little to help.
And honestly, reading this board, the racists already feel plenty emboldened, so I’m choosing to ignore them. They’re just mad at life because they’re gonna age like a rotting banana.