/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10077945
this honestly looks better on Risa than most of the stuff they've put her in lately

Does anyone else have a soft spot for Flower Egg Basket?
I get the best 80s vibe from it.

Has anyone heard anything about this 3F dress that was going to be released at the end of Dec? I haven’t seen anything since the original tweet which I had trouble understanding https://twitter.com/triple4tune/status/1067645281720659968

>>10077670
I'd appreciate an update anon! I'm kind of frustrated with their new site. I saw that it was tax free, but then logging in, I had to pay tax again because of my tenso address. Maybe this means they'll be adding international shipping again in the future?

A Naffy x JetJ collaboration, up for reservation till 8th Feb.
>https://twitter.com/J_et_J/status/1082951704658604032

>>10078075

>>10078075

I like the illustration but the way JetJ cut it makes it look like a poorly thought out taobao imitation of AP. It should have been a border print on the bottom so the drawing doesn't get so warped.

Any update on the television show lolitas

>>10078083

According to the two I follow, neither talked. It looks like they were part of a larger group of young people and those people talked instead, so they were essentially really pretty additions to make a ~diverse~ crowd.

How do Baby's turtleneck pullovers compare to AP's? I have one of AP's but it's awfully snug despite my frame being thin, and even though it's wool it's see-through to the point that I could never wear it with a skirt, only under a JSK.

I was wondering if pic related would be less see-through or would only be appropriate for use under JSKs as well.

>>10078085
I hope they're not too disappointed, because that's honestly for the best.

>>10078078
Since when has JetJ done border prints?

>>10078112
Japanese people wear undershirts. You should too.

I actually have worn an undershirt with the AP turtleneck I own, I just didn't particularly care for the fact that you could see the seams of my camisole underneath it. I wore it with a skirt but didn't know how flattering it really was in the end. Which is why I'm asking if the Baby turtleneck might be thicker and less clingy.

>>10078128
meant to reply to >>10078124

>>10078075
May if it was made with large pleats and/or longer skirt the print would look smarter

>>10078011
It’s all yours anon. That print is a dumpster fire.

I hate to ask this here, but I'm a noob and I just found my dream dress on fril.jp. What's the best shopping service to use in order to purchase it?

>>10078075
I agree that this was kind of an amateur cut. It could've been solved easily with pleats.

>>10078128
Isn't that a problem with your undershirt then?

>>10077945
I want Tina back. She only models it for Spoon mag I guess.

>>10078085
Two of them talked, are you dense?

>>10078343
well what did they say? how did it go?

>>10078137
Japonica Market.

>>10078168
NAYRT but can you recommend some undershirts for sheer cutsews? I have a number of tanks/camis but it would be nice to own an undershirt specifically for my brand cutsews

Do any gulls own this or a similar IW blouse and would advise on the fit? I am just under the lolibrary measurements for size M, and I am trying to decide if I should look for L instead.

>>10078376
If it's only 2-3 cm on your shoulders or bust you can easily compensate by tying the ribbon a little looser. More than that would look a bit awkward, I think.

>>10078137
I really like muuh tokyo ss

Are we able to add things to lolibrary ourselves, or do only the admins do it?

>>10078075
No skirt?

>>10078376
I own this in both a M and L and have a 92 cm bust. The sleeves in the L are a little baggy but I don't think it looks bad. The sleeves in the M are a little tighter. If you are very big just know that even the L won't fit you, it's for girls who are on the bigger side of lolita measurements, not the ones who need planet sized custom dresses

>>10078169
I want anyone back as long as they look cute and happy to wear the dresses

>>10078446
This is super helpful anon! My bust is 83 1/2 cm, so it sounds like I will probably be fine with M. Thank you!

>>10078452
Agreed! I miss seeing models looking happy about what they're wearing. The wispy, dreamy, pouty, sort of air-headed look that's prevalent now is boring and lifeless.

>>10078457
I think it's what they're doing now because it looks more "dolly" and like an Imai Kira illustration.

>>10078474
Yeah, but it really only works with some dresses. Like Heavenly Cross is ok because it's more "serious," but bitchface doesn't really suit something like Milky Pony Carnival. Just my opinion

>>10078356
It was very brief, one gave a very basic idea of what the fashion was and how they'd formed their local group on social media, and one of the other girls talked about wearing it in her hometown. I'd say it lasted maybe a minute and a half total, like another anon said it was part of a larger segment with instafamous people and actors.

>>10078456
Glad to help! I buy mostly secondhand so that's how I ended up with two in different colors and sizes

>>10078374
Nayrt but Uniqlo has some very thin undershirts designed to be worn seamlessly.

>>10078562
Thanks for the suggestion! I'm gonna get a few of the seamless tank tops in different colors. I think they'll work better than anything I currently have

>>10078405
Currently no one can. But eventually users can and admins will approve items.

>Angelic Pretty's official US online shop charges more than twice as much for the same items as the JP online shop
Why is this allowed?

>>10078821
It’s not that much and it’s because of customs. They have to pay import fees. Ap Paris is worse on this.

Why can't I get this in my cart? It looks like it's available. https://angelicpretty-onlineshop.com/product/princess-rococo-specialジャンパースカートset/

>>10078856
I can add it to mine, so it might be that you haven't selected the 'colour' option - even though theres only one, a message pops up telling you to select a choice if you try to add it to your cart without it

>>10078872
Yep that was the problem, I'm an idiot. I couldn't get the pop-up to translate. Thank you!

What Japanese second hand stores are worth watching? Closetchild doesn't seem to get as much stock anymore, Fururun is still on hiatus, TokyoAlice doesn't get as much Lolita anymore and doesn't seem to update as regularly anymore, and a bunch of others have shut.

Short of private sellers, are there any other JP sources of second hand burando?

>>10079659
I watch the heck out of violet blue but it's slow and some of their things are more worn

>>10079659
Maiden Clothing is nice but more expensive. Grand Bazaar Lolita is more Otome, but they occasionally have nice items as well. I love Violet Blue, but everything is pretty much sold by the time I check. Unfortunately non of the stores us as fast as Closet Child.
There is another store that is on Rakuten and Y!A, but I just can’t remember there name.

>>10079659
Tenshi has her own secondhand on her site, but it's really overpriced. Lolita Desu is technically in Japan too

Haenuli rerelease schedules are up. Anyone planning on getting anything?

I'm very disappointed in there being no skirts, I know they're becoming less popular in the fashion and I shouldn't have expected any but still. No stained glass prints for me, I dislike the cuts other than the skirts. It's a very ambitious rerelease schedule though.

I wanted Just One Bite in a skirt but I'll buy the JSK rather than potentially never having it since no one sells the smaller sizes secondhand. Haenuli confirmed it'll come in both fabrics, I'm not sure which one looks better irl so I guess I'll go with jacquard.

>>10078075
What’s the point of making nice print if you can’t see it properly

>>10078112
I have a black one and it’s thick material. Super comfy and warm.

Who else's 2019 resolution is to not spend so fucking much on lolita?

>>10080230
Me, but I only limited it to main pieces. Only absolute DDs get a pass.

>>10079659
>Fururun is still on hiatus
It's been almost two years anon. They're dead.

>>10080230
thought about it but already failed lol

my must-do resolution though is to do some closet cleaning/swapping. For everything I buy, I have to get rid of something I never wear. Far more manageable and an actually defined idea to enforce rather than telling yourself to 'spend less'

>>10080230
My resolution is the opposite. I was poor and in a bad situation all throughout last year and now that everything's been sorted out and I'm financially stable woth room to spare I want to make up for what I missed out on! Gulls, I just love lolita.

>>10080221
I'm wondering about this too... Which fabric for JOB. Does anyone here have it or can give recs?

>>10079751
This is my first time hearing of violet blue. Can someone provide a link plz? Google search turned up a random lady journalist.

>>10080280
Dude just search Violet Blue lolita fashion or Violet Blue rakuten. It's 2019, I can't believe some people are still so bad at Google

>>10080221
I just want the just one bight so im pleased. sad to see she going. hate to have any lolita designers leaving

>>10080283
I like how you assume I didn't already do that, you walnut. All google pulls up is that journalist, Amazon ""lolita"" and Pinterest.

>>10080290
nayrt but here
https://www.rakuten.co.jp/violetblue/

>>10080302
thanks!

>>10080230
Yeah, though I already bought three more main pieces in these past two weeks alone so I'm not off to a great start, but two were high priority items that don't show up very often and were both decently priced in full sets, and the other was a sale item that I'd been fancying for a few months since it's release.
I did do some closet cleaning and sold three or four pieces so it makes up for it.
I've now resolved to start once I get my January payday in- I can only get the two highest priority dresses on my list if they show up since they're hard to find or any matching accessories for what's already in my wardrobe. I need to save more money and buy myself a car this year.

>>10078011
Same, makes me think of my family's old sofa

>>10080230
My resolution was to spend more on it, actually

>>10080221
Excited for the st vitus JSK

>>10078112
I own this in brown, it’s literally just like any normal sweater. My only issue is how short it is but I also have a long ass torso (I’m 171 cm)

>>10080230
Opposite goal for me. My love of lolita has revived itself and i want to have enough pieces to wear it at least 2 times a week

>>10080221
JUST ONE BITE, JUST ONE BITE, JUST ONE BITE

>>10080234
Don't destroy my dreams like this anon, I'm in denial.

>>10080230
Why do that when your 2019 resolution can be to get richer and therefore have more money to spend on lolita?

>>10080230
My resolution is to spend more, but specifically on accessories, legwear, tops, shoes, and non-main pieces. I always buy main pieces and end up with nothing to match, so I really want to turn that around this year and have a better wardrobe.

>>10078825
AP Paris is insane. The sale prices are the normal prices in Japan. I'm hoping that EU-Japan trade thing might make a difference, but I'm not holding my breath.

>>10080404
Probably not, because the clothing is not made in Japan.

>>10080318
Same anon, I'm so happy it's on the list!

>>10080230
Yes. I want to only buy dresses on my wishlist and focus more on blouses, shoes and socks. That should keep the costs down

>>10080411
>>10080318
>>10080366
>>10080221
>My table at Paradiso after everyone owns just one bite and stained glass

>>10080221
>I shouldn't have expected any
Honestly I'm so done with this. Why shouldn't we expect skirts?? What did we ever do to deserve this draught? I've spent over 2000 on skirts ffs. Haven't bought anything directly from brand since 2017 though. Because they don't make much skirts, if any.

>>10080404
It would have made a difference if btssb was still in Paris

>>10080221
oh shit, little prince will be available!?!?!

for JOB I think the best choice is that jacquard bro, but def look at the fabric comparison photos in the original lj announcement
>https://haenulishop.livejournal.com/17429.html

>>10080221
>>10080708
>>10080266
JOB looks like it might be similar to Notre Dame, since both listings said they used jacquard. I can take pics of my black ND jsk if anyone is interested.
https://haenulishop.livejournal.com/19217.html

>>10080221
I'm not on Facebook and I'm not familiar with this designer, but I looked up the prints and some of them are very lovely. Could someone please tell me what store will be hosting her preorders? Is it her storeenvy?

>>10080736
Yes

>>10080398
Hey now, that's a pretty good idea, anon.

I like you.

In case anyone wanted the not-traced angel of music. You have 24 hours from this post to send haenuli an e-mail request.

>>10080221
I’m dying two of the prints she’s rereleaseing are dreams for me... but only in skirts. why must i suffer like this :(

>>10079659
Mandrake. If you search for Lolita in their store, they mostly show you certain manga’s and dolls, but they do sell really cheap brand stuff. Not much though...

>>10080221
Does anyone know if these releases are going to be original store prices or on sale too? Because I’ve been wanting the Full Moon OP but I haven’t felt like paying full price for it since people say the print quality on it is pretty meh for its price

>>10080221
Has this brand ever been coorded well by someone in the smallest size (other than the official model)?

I only see really horrible ham planet coords and it makes me reluctant to buy anything from this brand

>>10080788
Yes it has

>>10080729
Yes please anon!

>>10080776
It's an MTO, so I'd bet on original retail prices.

>>10080806
I'm not into gothic but seeing her coord it in person made me need this dress

>>10080806
Why can't my com have a few well dressed goth lolitas

>>10080867
I have no idea but it's wild how gothic itas look just as bad as sweet itas IRL. Whatever makes them think (as grown women) that they can just smudge on some expensive makeup poorly and throw a nameless poem over some thrift store shit, and not look terrible, beats me

>>10080765
>not-traced
Huh?

Preview shots of one of AP's new prints are up on Twitter. Don't know how I feel about those random bows on the skirt but the print is adorable.

>>10080959
Are those leather jackets I see

>>10080959
I thought the birds in the lower left were Sonic for a solid few seconds. I really need to get my eyes checked.

>>10080959
What is this print called again? It’s so cute and I need it in my life

>>10080959
I love random bows!!!!!! I love those jackets!!!!!!!!!!! I am weak

>>10080959
When is this print coming out, I so desperately need it in my life

>>10080736
Pf if you're not familiar with this designer you're obviously not actually in the community

>>10080959
Oh my gosh. I guess I will splurge a lot when this comes out...

>>10080775
It's Mandarake and if you search by individual brand names you get more precise results. I didn't know anyone else lurked there... hello fellow stealth anon.

>>10081066
Man, everything is sold out... Is there a way to search for things that aren't sold out?

>>10080959
I love it in black and pink.

>>10081074
Yeah you say hide sold out on the english website. Probably 販売中 on the Japanese website.
>>10081066
Oops! Thank you for the correction!
Hello! How did you find the store? I accidentally stumbled upon it when I looked for secondhand Lolita stores in Osaka. I really like how they mention the store which carries the dress. (Unlike CC...) Now you at least know which store to visit if you want to buy/try on the dress in person.

>>10081074
As the other anon said you can hide sold out items, for sake of ease use the english site. And check regularly some nice stuff pops up but it goes quick.
>>10081094
My S.O. and I collect dolls and weeb stuff. I was actually searching for dolls when I noticed the human sized lolita garments, been lurking ever since. Their service is really good and although the stock photos can be a bit crap I've never received an item that didn't match the condition they rated it at.

>>10080878
because Haenuli traced art, sold it, and then denied it

>>10081014
It's called Be My Valentine so I'm scared we're getting it in February, and I am so so broke still

>>10081116
Wtf? Why don't people mention this more? I only know about the red riding hood thing

>>10081147
>>10081116
It was a long time ago, she not only apologised for it but also redid the print to look different.

>>10081161
And the original artist forgave her?? Why lol

>>10081178
Nope, don't think they ever knew. She traced the movie poster of Love Never Dies for the Angel of Music print

>>10081161
Apologizing for it doesn't make it right in my books. It kills the interest I had in buying one of her dresses thinking that she potentially stole other designs and just hasn't been caught for it.

>>10081161
She didn't trace it or issue an apology for tracing?? where are you getting this info from???

>>10081202
She didn't directly trace or steal anything though. She drew one set of figures in the print using a pose from the movie poster for the sequel to The Phantom of the Opera, since it was a Phantom of the Opera themed dress it was a visual reference that made sense. I didn't even like that dress but the community took it too far. Using poses as references or inspirations is fine, especially when it's a fairly iconic theme. Many artists do that, do you all really think every element of every print (like the kittens on IW's prints) is fully original?

And when people were upset, Haenuli did apologise (pic related) and released a new version of the print with fully original art. People have nitpicked and poured over her designs for so long since this stupid scandal, if she were a serial tracer she would have been caught several times by now. I don't own any of her clothes and they are not particularly my style, but I genuinely think that the community has taken the situation way too far and started making up things that aren't true about it. We all love a bit of drama, but there's enough to complain about without adding fake stuff to it.

>>10081230
Gosh, targeting your goods to lolitas must be a real pain.

>>10081240
(tell me about it)

>>10081240
Pretty much, anon. This sort of thing keeps happening to indies all the time, we are very unforgiving on small businesses. It's a bit over the top, especially when it's targeted at indie brands that are just starting out.
>not Haenuli in this case, she was established by this point

>>10081240
Recently that ho thinking she owned a phrase from an old poem comes to mind. It killed me that the indie brand (mossbadger?) Changed their dress to accommodate a baseless claim

>>10081282
It was Violet Fane that was bullied into changing.

>>10080959
The bunny is really cute but the cat is not...

>>10081294
Agreed, I love the birds but that cat... Demonic. Cursed. Who is doing AP's art for this?

>>10081294
I thought this too. The massive forehead and the eyes on the cat are really unnerving to look at, it's off-putting.

>>10081240
What's really annoying is that the '''real''' Japanese brands do all sorts of shady shit all the time (see that recent shoe release that looks like a bootleg of a /Leg Avenue halloween shoe/ ) and nobody gives them crap for it

>>10081294
Where are you seeing a bunny in the pic? Am I blind cause I only see a cat and birds, no bunny

>>10081230
This apology was about her talking about the 'Story you don't know' art being stolen by several people, including tattoo artists tho....

this was also really sad. She was complaining on her /personal/ facebook not her shop pages and everyone turned it into some big nonsense deal

>>10081294
>>10081297
The shading between the eyes makes it look evil...

>>10081310
Nayrt but here is the bun

>>10081319
ah thanks, I only looked at the other pic, wondering if I'd needed to get better glasses!

I think all the animals on the print are cute tho

>>10081297
I think it might be Maki but I'm not sure. It looks like her art to me, anyway.

>>10081312
They are both cute. It's just the lighting or filter making them both look weird.

>>10081319
looks better there, I only saw pics from twitter before this. Looks very country ish, so I'm still torn on it. I like different looking animals for once,

Sitting here biting my fingernails hoping the person who just bought my DD from fril is my SS. I've had such horrible luck. Not a single dress was nabbed in 2018. I tried different shoppers, no dice.

>>10080961
Pleather. You know AP is too cheap to give us actual fuckin leather. If it was, it'd be like $700 minimum, which is fine if it's good quslity leather and none of that "genuine" shit.

>>10081347
I saw the red in person and I wasn't a big fan of it. But the pink.... is calling to me

>>10081240
I wouldn't blame her if that's the reason she wants to quit. We ruin everything.

>>10081319
I haven't loved an AP print this much since about 2013, holy shit.

>>10080959
>>10080995

The red bow seems to have something metal underneath it, it could be a matching or random hairclip, detachable bow, or something that may not be part of the dress.

The black one doesn't even seem to be attached to the dress, seems to be leaning back on something rather than sewn on.

>>10081322
is that Maki Dreamin really the AP maki? I heard people saying a man ran that account

New IW Release! Louise OP
>Reservation starts on the 25th
>¥35800
>Pink, Light Blue, Grey, Black

>>10078376
You should be at least 4cm under the measurement for something anyway, the listed measurements on clothes are for the garment measurement. Get the large and hope for the best.

>>10081436
Super cute, minus the sleeves. Would've loved this with long sleeves.

>>10080426
I don't know about that keeping costs down unless you're really picky or really cheap about all three of those...

>>10081433
>I heard people saying a man ran that account
TF? Source?

>>10081483
i don't have one offhand, it occurred a facebook status of someone im friends with. someone said AP staff told them that was maki, and another person said they had purchased from them at a booth and that it was actually a dude.

>>10081493
...that just sounds like Maki had someone running her booth for her

>>10081436
>sleeves
made too long for wristcuffs, made too short for no wristcuffs, made just nice to expose your bare wrists to the entire world

>>10080959
Every animal on this print is adorable and I only wish it had less red because I have none in my wardrobe.

Sweet revival, please AP.

Can anyone tell me about IWs quality? I have socks from them and some wristcuffs and they were really disappointing. the socks were made out of a stupid cheap-feeling nylon (not like nylons, but like a nylon thread knit into socks) and the wristcuffs seemed like... I don't know. You know when you get 2nd hand stuff and the tulle lace seems a bit... worn and older. it was like that, though they were brand new... I've picked up better quality 2nd hand stuff from baby/AP, and this stuff was new. Always makes me really apprehensive about shelling out money for their stuff... but sometimes it's so cute.

>>10081506
>bare wrists
Begone thot REEEEEEEEE

>>10081526
i like it but their socks arent good like ap

>>10081398
aaaaaand they missed it. Of course.

Anyone else have any recommendations for people offering SS in Japan? I've had no luck with Japonica, Accio, etc.

I get that it's not instantaneous and all but 12 months and about 20 attempts is more than just unlucky imo

>>10081482
Anon...I'm trying to keep the hope alive. Please...

>>10081319
Look at how happy those god damn birds are

>>10081506
wear a pearl bracelet?

>>10081553
I'm sorry anon... I know the feeling. I use Japonica and they're really only active during midnight (in my timezone) so I'm out of luck if I want to buy a dress during the day.

Do you mind me asking what dress it was?

>>10081506
Arm covers exist.

>>10081663
For ¥8856 though

I need an opinion. Someone is selling a dress that I've been wanting pretty badly. The price is much cheaper than I usually see it go for, they're selling it for $150 when I usually see it go for at least $200-250. The proof pictures also seem legit, yet they have no reviews on their profile, and I can't talk to them since they're Japanese. Does this seem too shady?

>>10081691
reverse image search the pics. and make sure you pay with paypal for buyer protection

>>10081677
Looking good costs money.

>>10081322
MAKI (Dreaming Tiny Pets) is a male illustrator. Maki of AP is a female

>>10081553
Which dress anon?

I wish people in my comm would stop showing interest in meets they have no intention of attending. Don't vote on polls for a date and then cancel after the date was decided because the location is too far away. I swear that after a meet is confirmed at least 30% cancel. And then 20% cancel the day before or on the day itself. It's way too stressful for organizers if they have to change reservations or locations because of flakers.

>>10081777
>good

>>10081677
Worth it

>>10081693
Reverse image search doesn't work half as well as it used to

>>10081610
>>10081782

Milky Chan the Fawn Applique JSK in pink. The only one I know of online in the Western comm belongs to someone I was warned not to buy from and she wanted 400 and something USD for it anyway. RIP.

>>10080959
Looks like an updated meta cat print

>>10081789
Mmmm, is it really though? With the quality moitie has been recently...

>>10081553
I like treasure-japan.

>>10081800
Dont insult the best fucking brand you stupid hoe
Yes it worths, everything from MMM WORTHS bitch

>>10081436
This isn’t lolita

>>10081677
>that nasty lace
>those raw tulle edges
yeesh

>>10081823

>>10081826
lol congrats on discovering the fashion, please lurk more.

>>10081526
Imo their main pieces are the best, accessories are better bought elsewhere unless we're talking about their cotton bows (pic related), but I don't like shelling out brand prices for ribbon bows so maybe it's just me. Also, their cotton pieces are superior to their poly pieces.

>>10081526
I own 2 JSKs, 3 OPs, a few skirts, socks, blouses, and 1 cardigan. The quality of the blouses/dresses is fantastic. Everything feels well-constructed and sturdy.

I agree with >>10081836 in that my cotton JSKs do feel a little more luxurious than the poly pieces, but the poly pieces I own are all long sleeves OPs so if they were made of the same thick, lined cotton they'd be pretty weighty. I love all of them though.

The accessories are nice, and splurge if you want to, but basic stuff like bows and headbands can be found easily second-hand for cheaper than the site offers (even during sales). The only accessories worth splurging for are the hair clips/bows that are more elaborate and designed to match a specific dress/JSK.

One this I will warn you about - the pearskin (which is featured on a lot of OPs with yokes) is a tiny bit sheer. My just-darker-than-my-skin bra shows a bit, so an undershit/cami is needed if you're eyeing one of those dresses.

>>10081677
I hate myself for kind of liking this tacky garbage.

>>10081829
How is it nasty? Imo it looks nicer than their previous ones, which also have raw tulle edges, but are still in perfect condition after using them for years. They're a bit expensive for the amount of fabric you get but they're so versatile and useful.

>>10081900
Did you not buy their socks or hair accessories recently? You are deluded if you think New Moitie's accessories are the same quality as their old ones. We're being sold substandard products at premium prices! As a Moitie fan, how can you stand for this?

>>10081780
Are you sure? An anon above said it was definitely AP maki

>>10081919
I did buy their socks and they were fine. Don't need any hair accessories rn.

>>10081919
The quality of both was ok fabric wise. The socks some ppl didn’t like the lace, this is different lace. Hair accessories they fixed anyways this past release but it was just a bad backing. Neither suggests the silly arm warmers will be bad.

>>10081919
Did you not buy the Catherine OP?

A few days ago Mana briefly trended worldwide after a zoom in!! segment about lolita, anyone know where to watch it?

>>10082008
What where omg

>>10081919
>I let other people do my thinking for me

I actually have bought moitie accessories and socks recently and they were lovely

>>10082011
He was trending on twitter and zoom in!! is a morning show in japan

>>10081829
While it's not for everyone raw tulle edges is how MmM usually do with their lace otks, wristcuffs, armcovers and chokers.

>>10078128
Sorry anon people on here are fucking stupid sometimes. I get your pain and problem, it’s something found in normal clothing too :/

>>10080230
same but my dumbass bought a dream dress and blouse and hairpiece and bag lol. I’m stopping it there though until my finances are back into order

>>10080959
I thought this was taobao for a minute lol

>>10080230
Me. Except I just bought new shoes and an apron, fuck

What are your rules on non-lolitas participating in comm discussion? A girl in my comm keeps trying to butt in on our discussions including ones about meet-ups even though she doesn't own any lolita. I don't think she is planning on purchasing any lolita either. Is there a nice way to tell someone like that to fuck off? Or am I over reacting?

>>10082152
In my comm, non-lolitas are allowed to participate if they have something of substance to contribute; if they don't, they're either politely ignored or receive a warning by the mods via pm, depending on the situation.
What is this girl doing? If she tries to influence meetups like the time/date/day or location when she's not a lolita and has no intention to be one, I'd say she should definitely receive a warning before she gets the boot.

>>10082152
It's one thing coming to meets with a lolita friend and another to try to influence a comm without even wearing lolita or intending to. You don't need to cater to this person because they're not a lolita. It's a lolita comm. Some comms allow other j-fashion but there's no obligation to. Maybe you could PM the mods about it? It seems petty but why would anyone cater to this person?

>>10082157
>>10082155
I think people don't want to be 'that person' and tell her off because she seems kind of sad. She is either low-gifted or incredibly sheltered. As things are now she is just responding to everything with comments about how she doesn't own anything yet not realizing it is better to just not respond. I am guessing she thinks that eventually we'll all be friends with her if she is persistent enough. If she ever does buy anything I am hoping she won't be a perma ita that wears the same bad coord to every meet.

>>10081282
Yeah it was Mossbadger that bullied VioletFane, real scummy move.

>>10082227
It was Moss Marchen, someone who's done a lot of scummy shit, not Mossbadger. Get your moss brands straight :P

>>10082227
Like VF is not the worst bitch ever

>>10082235
Apologies, I tend to get them mixed up.

>>10082239
What has VF done? I've never heard a thing other than the occasional criticism of her design choices.

>>10082191
Oh, in that case I think it's better to just politely ignore her, unless you have something to say to her that might help her in any way, like if she asks for information on buying lolita or if she comments on discussions relating to meetups when she has no intention of attending, though the latter might be better handled by a mod.

>>10082191
Is she even remotely interested in lolita though? She thought someone referring to a Baby dress meant it was a dress for babies.

>>10082152
In my comm you get deleted if you're not a lolita

>>10082269
This, very rarely will someone be let in if they're not already wearing the fashion or if they haven't at least bought their first piece.

>>10082269
Same. I got quizzed when I joined as I had no lolita on my facebook, I'm glad I was as it stops fakers getting in.

>>10082260
It is sort of ambiguous if she actually plans on wearing something. I do see that she might attend the swap meet. I think most comms have that one person who always makes plans to buy something but never does. For her sake a mod or someone else needs to properly explain to her what our comm expects from its members regarding etiquette. Otherwise she'll keep annoying people.

The person she responded to didn't capitalize Baby so I'd get it if someone got confused but there was also a picture of the dress. She has been in the comm long enough to recognize one of the most famous brands. At least she can read.

>>10081966
Yes I’m sure, went to an event at Cerise where he was. AP Maki doesn’t publicly sell her art outside of AP (likely a contractual agreement).

>>10082260
Don’t forget about the time she asked if anybody else in the group enjoyed that sticker dress-up thing little girls do. Or how she went on on how cute the girl posting in the buy-thread was, even though the girl told her it was a stock photo. I don’t think she even understood that comment.
She honestly seems clueless about what the style even is. She only comments stuff like “So cute” “Just like a princess”. I always feel like she thinks we are playing princess dress-up just like her sticker dolls. Everything she posts just makes me cringe.

>>10082152
>>10082260
>>10082290
>>10082395
Maybe it’s better to move this discussion to the comm-thread.

I'm don't like the visible lining, but this is actually quite cute with the gradient.

>>10082544
I want it, but I agree with you on the lining. I need to know what it'll look like irl.

JetJ is re-releasing Pied de chat in bordeaux, navy, black and gold. Reservations have already started and will close on Feb 15. Price is 300,000 JPY.
>https://juliette-et-justine.com/products/detail/188

JetJ is re-releasing Pied de chat in bordeaux, navy, black and gold. Reservations have already started and will close on Feb 15. Price is 300,000 JPY.
>https://juliette-et-justine.com/products/detail/188

>>10081691

On a Japanese platform? Have your SS message them, either for more photos, or ask your SS whether they think it's safe to buy.

I did this with both Japonica and fromJapan and it turned out well. Though it helps to note, I was buying a lot of stuff at that time so both shopping services were really accommodating with requests like these. A friend of mine found a website and did the same and her SS told her the website looked really sketch and they refused to take orders for it. A bit more sleuthing later and the photos all turned out to be stolen from expired auctions.

>>10082556
These are gorgeous! Does anyone have experience with JetJ x tyaketyoke shoes? Are they worth the price?

>>10082557
Thanks for the answer! It'll be useful for next time. This time I wasn't fast enough and it got sold extremely fast, probably due to the ridiculous price (they reduced it even further for some reason). I hope whoever got it didn't get scammed. And yes, I think it was on fril.

>>10082559
I own a pair of TyakeTyoke heels and I love them to death. The quality is excellent. Plus they sell parts of you manage to break something and if you send in your shoes, they can do repairs or give you discounts on a new pair. I think it's just a collab for the design and TyakeTyoke takes care of actually making the shoes. I've already pre-ordered a pair a few weeks ago. I only wish that they came in leather, like the shops other shoes do.

>>10082556
Uhhh for 300k¥ are they leather? If not I have zero interest

>>10082597
hmm, no idea

>>10082597
They are only 30k yen.

Kera Shop closing online out of the blue is making me nervous. You'd think they'd give more notice, but it's just gone as of right now.

>>10082566
I have been scammed on both Fril and Mercari before, but my SS always refunded me the money. I believe the customer protection on Mercari can do such thing.
It is possible that it is the real deal, if the reduce the price that quickly, the seller most likely wanted to get rid of it.

>>10082643
Are they just remaking it or something?
>tfw AP Paris is closing too
>are the end times upon us

>>10082625
That's still like $300 for pleather. Not worth

>>10082746
They are not closing, they only can’t be open on Saturdays. They will still be open during the week.

>>10082597
>>10082749
>>10082556
Can Japan not import leather or something? I never see any kind of leather shoes outside of Jane Marple. I'm willing to bet any Western loliable leather shoes can probably outdo them in terms of being well made and comfort for these prices.

>>10082749
Then buy from Tyake Tyoke directly then. They do custom leather shoes with the same heel designs. They are even around the same price.

>>10082781
You're not looking hard enough.

>>10082817
If you know so much about Japanese leather shoes, then drop a link.

I hate women, lads.

>>10082781
What is economics?
Japan = little farmable land, so little domestic leather production = expensive. Most beef is from Australia, USA, or South America.
Protectionist trade policies = 30-40%+ import tax on leather, plus production and overhead = expensive.

>>10082825
Cool.

All women are whores so it makes sense.

If Atelier Pierrot is posting this on their tumblr, does that mean it's available to buy in their store right now?

>>10082854
It’s in the store not online, so I think you can try a SS

>>10082854
I recommend reading their social media posts for that information. They list everything you need to know.

>>10082854
Twitter says it just arrived in store.
https://twitter.com/atelier_pierrot/status/1086124661925015552

>>10082575
That's very helpful, thanks anon!

>>10082820
We literally just had this discussion in the stupid question thread a month ago.

>>10082854
If you email atelier pierrot, they can order their in-stock items for you from their different stores. No need for an ss.

>>10082544
Perhaps a pink petti would fix the color?

>>10082973
Even if the items aren't made by AtePi?

>>10083240
Obviously... Atelier Pierrot owns the JetJ dress now

>>10082756
Does anyone know why?

>>10078452
Oh what a cutie she’s so much more convincing than fish-faced Risa

>>10083240
Yep, I've done it for several different items. They are really nice.

>>10083240
>>10083330
Forgot to add I also have used them for MTOs like the JetJ shoes to get tax free. Just send an email asking and they will let you know if they can do it.

>>10082756
That's terrible news though. I mean Europeans generally only visit Paris during the weekends, even French ones.

>>10082643
What the fuck
What the actual fuck

>>10082854
oh shit I need it

>>10077945
/a/ visitor here,
My mother just asked me what exactly lolita is and told me that she felt inspired by my figures' maid outfits.
She also ordered some rather cheap dress and stockings and gloves and everything. How do I get her to buy more high quality stuff if she likes it and wants more? what do I need to know?
I've only heard of AP from here but I really don't know shit yet.

>>10083447
>my mother wants to dress like my sexy anime meido figurines
This is the weirdest bait I’ve ever seen.

>>10083447
now listen, if you want to wear lolita, you should wear the fashion by buying the clothes to yourself. don't let your parents force you to wear lolita unless this is some sissy fantasy where your mom forces a guy to wear lolita, but it's not cause this a typical /a/ poster who thinks SSSS.Gridman is the hottest show this season

Am I the only one who finds Taobao extremely hard to navigate?

>>10083472
Yes

>>10083472
No

>>10083472

Maybe.

>>10083472

I don't know.

>>10083472

Probably.

>>10083472

Can you repeat the question?

>>10083272
Because of the yellow vest protests going on for the last 2 1/2 months. Anarchists like to take advantage of the chaos by attacking cops and breaking shit, including smashing shop windows and looting/burning stores. Even a couple of metro stations close for the day because of this
>including mine ;-;

>>10083447
Is this some weird mummy dom shit or?

>>10081919
I own the Catherine OP and it's really wonderful quality, the lace is gorgeous and there doesn't seem to be much of a huge difference between the lace used in the OP and in some of their older releases. It's really comfy too, i actually took a nap while wearing it

>>10083447
The fuck?

>>10081506
Lol what? That sleeve length is flattering on a lot of people. I'm short so long sleeves in OPs are often too long on me full stop.

>>10083520
Oh shit, so that's still going on every Saturday? I thought the whole thing kind of fizzled out

>>10083580
Honestly it just kind of moves from one area to another in the city, with various degrees of intensity. So far everything has been relatively calm today, hopefully it will die soon

>>10083472
Possibly

>>10083530
What do you think of the sizing? I didn't buy it because it's so long, but now I regret it

>>10082559
I bought their pointe shoes a couple of years ago and never wore them outside the house because they were too uncomfortable. Brand shoes in general are uncomfortable to me though (mainly because of the shitty material/ high heels and no arch support). I now stick to western brands that do loliable stuff out of real leather. If you are actually buying shoes to walk in them for more than 30 minutes, I'd suggest you to do the same.

>>10080451
What are you even talking about? She literally would release a skirt cut with every single release she did. Go look through all the old FB albums or LJ posts.

>>10082227
>>10081282
>>10082235

Yeah please be careful guys, it was mossmarchen (the one who made those popular pearl rosary necklaces everyone wore a few years ago). Mossbadger is super sweet and as far as I know, doesn’t bully people over stupid shit like phrases from old ass poems that are aren’t even hers + likely in public domain now anyway

>>10083640
The pointe Shoes weren't made by Tyake Tyoke though.

Speaking of Violet Fane, did that funeral print sell out? I heard her quality used to be bad but improved a lot in the past two years, but do any of you have experience with her printed tights?

>>10083642
It's not about that specific brand, it's about not expecting there to be skirts anymore

>>10083652
The tights are very good
Fabric quality went from garbage to ok
Customer service, pattern and sewing: absolute nightmare

>>10083657
Nayrt but that’s such a bummer since her stuff looks pretty good from the photos. I’ve read reviews/sales posts online about her nurse series that was popular and saw that the construction for it was a total train wreck.

>>10083657
Why? I've only seen positive reviews. I'm hesitant to believe negative ones from cgl without proof.

>>10080867
Is goth dead? It is so rare to see good goth coords in general, let alone Lolita goth coords

>>10081832
Look you miserable fucks, if someone posted a handmade version of this exact dress on COF and wore that exact outfit y'all would be gathering torches and pitchforks don't even deny it

>>10083697
People these days think that goth is simply wearing Killstar shit so it might as well be dead. Gothic lolita hasn't been widely popular since sweet and OTT became trendy in late 00s-early 2010s, so it's mostly about quality than quantity atm; i.e. there aren't many gothic lolitas but many of the ones that are around are well dressed.

>>10083693
not op but if you search on warosu you can read a lot of awful experiences (and can search for photos so you can see the trashy construction) but those bad reviews stopped at some point of late 2017/ beginning of 2018. I heard she hired professionals to make her designs, bc her skills were awful. Now they seem good as far as I saw


About the customer service friends of mine bought of her and disliked her passive-aggressive behaviour; also I've heard some shit of her from the embassy but I cannot confirm it

>>10083697
>>10083708
There are several well-dressed gothic lolitas in my comm but they rarely share their coords online and practically never post to COF.

>>10083710
>passive-aggressive behaviour
Isn't it just because she's from Barcelona? Cultural difference and language and all? I know in my country things that are considered rude by Americans are polite here.

What are some prints that would announce that I'm a huge lesbian?

>>10083725
idk, my friend asked her how was it going bc the deadline was passed and VF just replied "Please don't order if you're not willing to wait"
pretty rude imo, she only asked 2 times in a few months. idk

>>10083697
I see them often enough, it's mostly the girls who don't post to social media and have their own blogs though.

>>10083470
>>10083471
>>10083523
>>10083533
I posted this today and just came back, why was the post deleted?
I wasn't joking you fucking retards

>>10083765
>>10083470
and to add to that:
She doesn't want to dress me up, she just liked the maid dresses and bought some cheap shit online because she wants to wear it.
It really isn't that hard to understand

>>10083771
I haven't seen your original post but even so, how is this relevant to lolita fashion? Why would you post this in the lolita general and expect people to not assume you're baiting?

>>10083775
Because she asked me about lolita dresses and this thread is called lolita general?
now fuck off and learn how to use the archives.

>>10083731
Squirrel party

>>10083731
>cherish my juicy cherry

>>10083777
Why would someone check the archives for some shitpost?

>>10083657
I thought maybe the construction might have improved since Atelier Pierrot started stocking them, since Atelier Pierrot would have to bear the brunt of the refunds if the dresses were still falling apart.

>>10083693
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M9Ch9sSbB8 terrible customer service right back when VF first opened. Customer (who I think is/was a gull) literally had to reconstruct unwearable items HERSELF and Violet Fane guilt tripped her into not getting a refund or any money back despite initially offering 30% refund...honestly, if you can't deliver what you promise and send out unwearable products you deserve to lose money and go under as a business. Although that hasn't stopped Choke from running away with a bunch of people's money with her wigs, so lolitas gonna continue to be idiots.

Rest of the thread: >>/cgl/thread/8563849

I am so so sick of these fucking Moitie scalpers. Bitch bought a pair of socks for 3,000 yen just a few days ago and already threw them up on Y!JA for 6,000 starting bid. It's incorrigible.

>>10084145
Moitie scalpers can go choke, honestly. A lot of the older solids sell for relatively cheaply on jp sites, and without fail I'll see some bitch buy it just to turn around and try to make a profit on the same damn site.

>>10084145
>>10084149
And someone already bid on it because Moitie is trendy again and people are desperate to flex. Fucking hell people need to stop feeding the scalpers.

>>10084149
>>10084159
The sad part is that the scalper had to ask to buy it first on Mercari. I wonder if the seller had any idea what kind of person she was selling to.

secrets

>>10083777
No need to be so hostile. If you come into this board saying “ my mom” or “ I’m a dude but want to dress in maid lolita cosplay” we are going to call you a sissy and treat you as such. If you where serious ( which how you’re acting I’m 100% sure you are not and just trolling) you would come in not announcing you’re a dude or that your mother wants you to dress in such a fashion. It’s cringy and pulls up large red flags. No one cares if you’re a man. No one gives a shit what your parts are between your thighs or who what’s to dress you up. People only announce this shit if they want special treatment ala fetish degrading style. It’s behavior like that that shows you’re a sissy fetishist. If you where dead serious you would omit the gender and the parent part of it and ask “ hey I want to really be serious about the fashion, how do I get better. Where do I find maid style dresses that don’t look like a costume”.

>>10084145
>>10084149
>>10084159
>>10084166
What's the name of the seller on Y!JA? I want secondhand Motie but don't want to feed scalpers.

>>10084208
It's the only pair of Moitie socks for sale Anon.

>>10083657
I had to return a skirt I got because of the wonky sewing but she was really nice about it? Never had a problem with her.

>>10084217
Nayrt but when did you order the dress? Just curious on the quality since I’m thinking of ordering a VF skirt soon

>>10083639
I'm really short, 5'1" and it's a good length for me, just below my knees. It's also not tiny in the bust, if that's what you're worried about. I'm a C cup and I can wear a bra with it, not a binder or sports bra and its not tight at all. The waist is also relatively high, just below the ribs so it's quite slimming. Honestly it feels like I'm wearing a nightgown when I'm in it, it's really comfy and I highly recommend it!

The only problem I have with it is that because it's 100% cotton, it attracts dust and lint like crazy, so I'm always lint rolling it. It's not such a huge issue though, and it's so elegant and comfortably that i really couldn't care.

>>10083697
I think goth lolita is coming back a bit with the moitie renewal and also Ophelia popularizing old school, a lot of which is gothic. I've been a classic lolita for years but then I moved to Japan and saw some moitie pieces in person for the first time and completely fell in love. Now my wardrobe is being overtaken by moitie, miho matsuda, and atelier boz.

>>10083697
It's reclused into certain places. Anyone who thinks goth or gothic lolita is dead is not looking.

But is it common? Absolutely not. I will see maybe 1-2 gothic lolitas (not you sweet and classic lolitas that get curious and buy some moitie), if that, per lolita community. You also never see goths anywhere either when they used to be a common alternative fashion.

>>10084224
Nayrt but many people seemed put off by how large the measurements were, not that it might be too small. Is it baggy in the waist area?

>>10084208
mireianduramirei on yahoo, Zero / 羚 @ プ ロ フreadable on fril, 莉@プロフ必読 on mercari
Everything they sell is scalped off other second hand websites, mainly fril, mercari, tokyo alice and closet child. Everything. They show other annoying behaviour like writing "deleting after [date here]" in the item name and then relisting it over and over and over again, completely clogging up the brand tags.

>>10083777
Go to the stupid questions thread at least, we don't care about your mom's sick fantasies

>>10084247
It's a bit large in the waist for me, but I don't mind, it still looks nice. Plus I'm not a fan of tight-fitting clothes so it's perfect for me.

>>10084219
I ordered it last year, it was the orphanage skirt. Was disappointed by the jersey material and bad sewing but she did say it was a defective item.
I’ve seen their anatomy series in person at AtePi, the print was nice but the material was thin and a little flimsy so I didn’t get it.

They’re definitely not brand level yet for me, so I guess I’ll be sticking to their accessories for now.

>>10083705
Sorry about your chronic delusions, that dress is perfectly lolita, lurk more or gtfo.

>>10083705
Did your handmade get pissed on?

new thread >>10084326