/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10088629
I'm actually not sure anon. You could always email and ask.

Any other anons know if Antique Beast will mark down packages?

I just remembered I made this a few months ago. Enjoy

>>10088750
holy shit, bingo

>>10088690
>>10088443
Meant to post this last thread and forgot

>>10088750
I fucking love you anon, please marry me

What happened to Maiden Clothing? I just checked their web shop and everything is empty?

>>10088791
I like >>10088690 better. All of my decorative pillows are around 50 euro so Idk what the big deal is.

>>10088796
Probably just an error. They tweeted 10 hours ago and you can still visit the individual item pages.

>>10088730
On the contrary, they put a copy of the invoice on the parcel.

>>10088802
It’s not for a whole pillow, it’s for the pillow cover only

>>10088791
that is the perfect add to my other recent purchases from Moitie including a headdress with fallen off back and that infamous lucky pack with horrible dress inside.

>>10088690
Does anyone know why it's do difficult for them to find a proper designer? If they're very picky I don't understand why they don't use that picky-ness for their new accessorie releases.

If one of your rarer DDs popped up in the wrong colour, would you
>buy to avoid regret, you can sell if you ever find the right colour
>hold out for the right one

>>10088868
Hold out for the right one, everything else is just a waste of money and a filler that makes me yearn for the right one.

>>10088857
What if they're not even looking.

>>10088880
They did post publicly about designer application being open, several times iirc.

>>10088868
Definitely hold out for the right one, unless this "wrong" color is another colorway that I like. Not worth it otherwise.

>>10088868
i bought mine in a different colorway and have 0 regrets. a listing for the dress in any colorway hasn't popped up but the one time in years, so i snatched the opportunity. however, don't do this if your funds are limited and you don't think you'd have enough money for the right colprway if it pops up!

Thoughts on Floral Lady Series?

>>10088868
Hold out for the right one. I currently have a rare (not popular) DD in the wrong color way and it just pisses me off. I'm probably going to sell it soon

>>10088903
The OP is hideous. Jsk is not great but not ugly either

>>10088903
It reminds me of Ank Rouge designs

>>10088853
You speak like a Russian

>>10088882
But did anyone apply or did they just turn everyone down

>>10088880
>>10088949
>they're turning everyone down because WW wants to keep getting those sweet moitiefag dollars with minimal effort

>>10088835
even better because that means you can wash it easily. i have 45 euro pillow that doesn't have a zipper.

>>10088857
do you dislike the design of the new accessories or the production? it's hard to find good manufacturers in japan because of the competition from china and a ton of factories closed because of the economic crisis

>>10088955
Unlikely since they struggle with selling out non rereleased dresses. So far I think only the Catherine op is new and sold well, and even that has an older design feel. Rereleasing sleeping garden twice in 2018 shows they are stalling while trying to get other stuff to sell.

The item people are looking forward to is a silent moon rerelease too.

>>10088961
I was joking, that's why I posted a tinfoil head image with it.

>>10088730
AB doesn't mark stuff down, as far as i know

i got the newsletter and though it's unrelated, might as well mention the items that will not be restocked once they're sold out:

- twilight of cardigan-winged bolero · Echelle dress Tan'ya of blouse (light blue)
· Swallow tail blouse · Amaryllis blouse · Carmilla corset (check)
· Fraise corset · Fraise skirt

· Papillon head of dress-rose ribbon Chou Flower ribbon Chou · Rose prison Kachumu · Wit rose ribbon

· Petit collier (White)
- Usuyami choker

So, way back one someone requested I report back about the free notebook that I didn't manage to put into the cart (the novelty for the re-opening of AP's online shop)

Basically just posting to confirm that yeap, there's no notebook in my package. Just received it, too, and confirming there's not notebook in there either. So I guess for future novelties, make sure you check that you put the novelty into your cart before you check out.

Dumb question. Are you expected to bring anything to a swap meet? My comm is having one soon, never been to any before cause I never have anything I'm looking to sell when they're scheduled and would feel weird being the only one.

I've probably been worrying all this time for nothing and I'm gonna feel really dumb if that's the case but it's time I knew once and for all.

>>10089138
Maybe bring just a tote bag if you plan to buy things? It's not weird to not sell things~

>>10088903
It reminds me of that green Twilight dress. If I remember correctly Hot Topic even released a version.

>>10089141
Thank you anon! I'm embarrassed to have been worried but glad I know now

>>10088868
I bought my DD in a different cut/color than was my preferred and I still love it. That being said I still really liked the cut/color even if it wasn't my preferred, and I was mostly drawn to the print itself. Theres a lot to be said for holding it out for the right one, though, if its specifically that colorway you like. Trust your gut.

>>10088903
Looks like someone stole their grandma's curtains and tried to make it Lolita.

>>10088903
I want to like it, I love florals, but its really boring to me, and this is coming from someone that tends to like solids or simple prints.
The white looks okay to me and I'd maybe be interested if the cuts weren't so boring, but the black makes me think of those floral nylons like pic related that were really trendy with normies a few years ago.

Maybe they look great irl but from the stock photos it just kinda looks boring imho.

>>10089160
Dropped pic

>>10088868
I would buy it. My dream dress isn’t particularly coveted but I never see it pop up for sale so I’d settle for other colors.

>>10088868
If it's the wrong colorway, it's not the dream dress.

Has anyone made a gif of Tyler going berzerk with her parasol yet?

>>10088903
The floral print reminds me of the default pattern brushes on Photoshop/Clipstudio.

>>10089205
Wow I totally can't unsee that now.

Don't know if this is the best place to ask, but: What the fuck do I do if a cat pisses on one of my dresses?
Vinegar and baking soda won't hurt anything, will it?

>>10088903
I'd wear this outside and no one would know it's lolita, so it's a double-edged sword.

>>10088857
I think lolita fashion is just niche and I'm not sure what's going on with Japanese lolitas anymore. They seem so overshadowed by Chinese lolitas that I bet a good majority of the candidates were Chinese and maybe didn't speak fluent enough Japanese or live in Japan.

There was a BtSSB design contest not long ago and almost all the entries were Chinese. I think that was pretty telling about who is making and applying for designing lolita these days.

I really wish some Western Moitiefag would apply, but I think their standards are high. They could very possibly be inbetween designers.

>>10089230
I wish I could but I don't fit any of their 3 criteria, but I know MmM and have ideas that would fit the classic 1999 - 2012 look of EGL, EGA and EGM. I know what the western comm want, and I know how to design and sew but jackshit on drawing, Japanese and pattern drafting. I've considered sketching out my ideas to the best of my abilities and just email them to MmM and tell them to get a hold of themselves.

>>10089265
Please do it. They need a fucking kick up the pants

>>10089265
If I could I'd ship you out there, anon. Would love it if it were someone like you.

No harm in trying either or getting more information as to what they need or what they're not looking for. Obviously there's more to their criteria than they're stating and it'd be nice if the Western community figured it out. We could fill the role.

>>10089138
Most swap meets have the problem where there are more sellers than buyers, so I can’t imagine they’d have a problem with you only going to shop.

What does GemGem even LOOK like?

>>10089274
You’d probably need fluent Japanese and I doubt they’d sponsor a visa. The pay is guaranteed abysmal

>>10089298

>>10089133
That's going to be annoying. Thanks for the update anon.

They need to reboot Deka Wanko just so she can wear this dress.

>>10089301
nauseous

>>10089301
Ewww. What a gross looking person.

>>10089305
>reboot Deka Wanko so she can wear this dress
Yes. Yes. YES

>>10089305
Yes please!

>>10089218
White vinegar is great for odors. But if it's a delicate print/fabric take it to a dry cleaner and tell them exactly what/where the stain is and chances are they can safely take care of it - that's what they're there for.

>>10089301
How did she even get into that? Some older Meta is big but a lot of it is petite even with partial shirring

Every now and then we have conversations about the Japanese Lolita community here but I'm wondering what other non-English-speaking communities are like. What websites do they use? I know the Spanish speakers use fb, the Russians have VK, and the Germans used to have dunkelsuess or whatever, but do these people also post on cgl in English? Or is this board just a bunch of catty Burgers, Brexits, and Aussies with a few Eurofags lurking in the shadows?

>>10089376
Russian-speaking Europoor reporting in.

>>10089143
Perfect for forming a trio with Holy Wolf and Horror Candy Shop (or whatever AP vampire-ish print)

>>10089376
Lurk moar there's tons of Europeans here. They're just in different timezones than amerifats.

>>10089376
One of the biggest EU comms is in Paris and they suck at English. One of my favourite lolitas is Italian and she doesn't speak English either. I also follow the moderator of the Barcelona comm on insta, and though she blogs in English, it's bad enough that you would immediately notice it on cgl.

>>10089376
german gull here, I know quite a few german lolitas lurk here.

>>10089376
I'm french and i speak English

>>10089376
From Belgium here, I think there's far more non-Americans and non-Brits here than you think

>>10089376
Another Eurofag here. Also >>10089487
you really got me curious here, is she relatively well-known or not? I can think of a few Italian lolitas but all of them speak English

Is Garbage-chan an Ophelia clone?

>>10089622
No, garbage chan is creative and wears nice simple, casual coords. Her hair is cuter and her wardrobe seems really small. Ophelia seems to have at least 3x the wardrobe, with nicer, more interesting pieces but more boring and formulaic styling

>>10089761
>garbage chan is creative
Seems like the average snowflake to me.

>>10089770
You sound boring

>>10089770
>>10089622
And like every snowflakes she loves attention. Please lets just stop it here before the thread derails with her discord whiteknights.

>>10089376
Half of Sweden is here

>>10089376
Not your question but out of curiosity I once checked where CoF posters are from and most of them were from America though it was pretty mixed. Maybe lolita is more popular in America because of cons.

>>10089989
I think Americans are just loud and have more efame tendencies

>>10089376
>tfw Brexit

Moitie released the Candelabra bag in brown.
https://www.wunderwelt.jp/en/fleur/products/a-00145

Moitie released the Candelabra bag in brown.
https://www.wunderwelt.jp/en/fleur/products/a-00145

>>10090589
They've also released Jewel Cross bag charms in red, blue and black.
https://www.wunderwelt.jp/en/fleur/products/a-00183

The charms are ¥8,640 each and the bags are ¥17,280 each.

AP also released some items over the weekend.

>>10089622
in that case she'd be a clone of a clone, because ophelia wants to wear nicole dollanganger's skin.

>>10090606
I wonder when Be My Valentine is going to be released. Usually they release things about a week from the sneak peaks, but it's been longer.

>>10089301
digging that soul patch haha

Does anyone know the name of this coat or have stock photos? It's an old btssb coat. I want to get rid of it, but I can't remember anything about it.

>>10090596
I dislike this only because of the ugly buttons but that's the focal point of the whole thing. Damn

>>10090641
Holy shit that skeleton looks comfy

>>10090641
Is it warm?

Off shoulder AP.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. It kind of actually looks nice with the choker.

>>10089376
Pretty sure the entire Dutch comm is here.

>>10090791
Nah, the ones I follow in insta have shit english

>>10090787
Spoon usually has nice styling but that wig is atrocious

>>10090787
Those jewels on the lace look bad imo.

Has anyone ever ordered from The Phantom and the Maiden before? I'm specifically looking at the Grief OP, and I saw that wonderfinch made a lengthy negative review of them in 2014, but we've got to take everything she says with a grain of salt. Is their quality ok?

>>10090799
Josine, chokelate, and summertalesboutique have good English

>>10090020
Same...

>>10089376
South american here, yes mostly spanish speakers use fb (unfortunately), but many lurk here too.

>>10090641
Post pics of the tags and lining. It could be one of the earliest releases considering the buttons and trim choice.

I know Valentine's Day is a cheesy day and chivalrous, but I made a dinner reservation for 2. My bf wears lolita and I want him to wear something cute for the date. One of his friends really thinks that I have mixed feelings for the fashion, but I want to be supportive. How should I word my conversation?

>>10090954
Those are three people. A few months ago there was drama related to the Dutch comm so they came to the comm thread but you could easily tell most of them don't usually come here.

>>10089989
Facebook has more Americans than people from any other country (except India). It's expected to see many Americans on an American website.

>>10090596
Okay, but have you gulls seen the pink colourway of this dress?

>warm and cool shades of pink in the same dress

Go home AP, you're drunk.

Are Lolita parasols/umbrella any good? If so, which brand makes the best? I’d like to use one for sun, light rain, and light snow.

>>10091243
I don't know about snow so no comment on that, but I use my Lumiebre umbrella for both sun and rain and it's perfect. I like Baby's parasols too but I don't use them in the rain, even though they're supposedly can be used for both.

>>10091200
That looks like it's a woven check pattern, not printed. So the difference in tones is probably just the way the light is hitting it.

>>10091243
Baby’s parasols are reasonably priced and work well for rain and shine. They also make clear plastic umbrellas that are definitely only umbrellas (and kind of ugly).

>>10091243
I've used my AP parasol for years in sun,rain, and snow. From what I've read, brand parasols are have UV protection coating on them too. They're usually ~$50.

>>10091045
Just tell him about the reservation and that you would love for him to wear lolita because he loves it and you love to see him happy. Just be honest.

>>10091243
I have 2 baby parasols. They're great for sun, okay for rain, but don't expect them to hold up will in wind... so if i's rainy or windy.. you're better off just using a normie umbrella built for harsh weather.

What's the general consensus on wearing religious iconography (ie, a rosary) with Gothic Lolita? I know we have a lot of prints and crosses and stuff but a rosary or something similar feels a little more like dodgy territory.

Am I going to get ripped to shreds if I wear a rosary an ex-catholic friend gave me with a Gothic coord for being disrespectful or something?If I removed the religious iconography like replace the cross with something else but it still looks like a rosary would that be more or less likely to happen?

>>10091323
Anon come on, it's a fashion where AP putting crosses on everything became a meme. Just wear the rosary and look cute.

>>10091327
Yeah but somehow a rosary feels a little more like dodgy territory since its important for prayer and not jewelry. Maybe I'm thinking too much into it.

>>10091323
Replace the Jesus parts with Mana-sama and it'll be a hit.

>>10091323
you'll just kinda look stupid since rosaries arent meant to be jewellery

>>10091323
No one fucking cares mate.

>>10091323
My whole family is Catholic and I am too to a certain degree. I wear rosaries with my coords and no one cares so *shrug* I guess?

>>10091334
They are both a religious tool and jewellery, anon. Why else would all the Catholic grannies low-key compete over who had the nicest one? I know a lady who has an honest-to-God gold one with real gemstones. It's not stupid or uncharacteristic to wear a rosary as jewellery.

>>10091424
NAYRT but my whole family is Catholic and they sent me to Catholic school. Theyve always stressed that the rosary is not jewelry, but, IMO who cares, this is a fashion thing not a religion thing.

>>10091243
As a separate note, many brand umbrellas have metal parts and metallic screenprints on them so you have to properly dry off the umbrella before putting it away or the metal bits oxidize and change color, which can stain the fabric. Drying it is as easy as running a paper towel over the surface but you just can't forget.

>>10091444
As a Catholic, I agree that that's what everyone says. I'd say that irl too if asked directly. Like it's not meant to be jewellery. But that is really not how we act about our rosaries haha. If you got a swarovski rosary for your first communion, you show it off to the other girls. They can be family heirlooms. My aunt wears her carmelite-made one visibly so it's both a symbol showing her religion but also because it's pretty, pic related is a similar one. They're definitely dual purpose both spiritual and mundane to many people even if they don't want to admit it. But you're right this is a fashion discussion, it doesn't really matter

I was curious, but who is Tenshi? I heard she’s actually a Lolita and been around since the LJ days, but I’ve never seen a photo of her. Does she still wear the fashion?

>>10091962
She a lolita, she's just very private about her appearance and doesn't link any social profiles to her SS business

>>10091444

The catholics are notorious for double standards though. How else can we self flagellate for self imposed crimes. Flaunt your rosary then tell about it at confession so you have something to tell the priest. Brilliant.

>>10091453
Raised Catholic here. Rosaries are obviously not designed to be worn, and many don’t even fit over an average head or have the tensile strength to suspend the crucifix without breaking. As long as the rosary fits and won’t break, go ahead and wear it, though technically it’ll be kind of similar to that ita who wore an extension cord as a headbow.

>>10090787
All I can see is this weird face on her chest

>>10092052
>extension chord as a headbow
.....pics?

>>10091323
>>10091328
Catholic here, I personally don't care and most people wouldn't. They'd probably just assume it was jewelry, and on that note plenty of Catholics wear jewelry with crosses on them so it's not really much of a big deal. Obviously don't go into a church and flaunt it but if you're just out with it I doubt most people would notice, much less care.

>>10092052
>rosaries aren't designed to be worn
What? Just... What? That sounds like the kind of white lie parents tell kids so they don't flaunt their rosaries like jewellery. For your average Catholic's rosary though, that's just not true. Your standard 5-mystery rosary is literally shaped the way it is so that it can go over a head or looped around a wrist and be transported easily, it would also have made it hard to steal back when a rosary might be the only valuable thing a person owns. 1-mystery rosary bracelets are very common too, and you can't say a full 15 - mystery one wouldn't fit over someone's head. Yes, there are heirloom rosaries out there that are old and possibly too jewelled or valuable to be worn. But that's just not true for your average rosary, even most fancy ones.

How many things are on your lolita wishlists?

How do you decide what gets added or removed from your wishlist?

I tried cleaning up my wishlist folder after letting it accrue stock photos for years and still have 50+ items (~30 are dresses). It's easy to rule out things that aren't my style anymore, but my list still feels overwhelming!

>>10092515
And for reference I've been a lolita for 3 years and have 34 main pieces. I love them all. After all this time you would think I would be satisfied with my current wardrobe, right? Idk.

>>10092515
I've been in lolita for more than 10 years, have about 75 main pieces, and have narrowed my wishlist down to 10 items, 8 of which are dresses.

Just look at your wishlist and think about if a listing were to pop up today, would you buy it? If not, then maybe it's less of a priority and can be removed or at least reorganized for the time being. I used this mindset to clear out my wishlist; there's only 10 pieces that could make me jump for them right now, everything else is just a "maybe someday, but if not then no big deal" item

>>10092515
I rule out things that aren't a flattering cut or colour for me. No matter how much I like the stock photo, it needs to look even better on my body for me to really want it. Otherwise I end up not wearing it much.

Anyone else see this on Lolita Updates? Is the sticker on the bottom right a direct ripoff of that "Bury Me In My Brand" pin design?

>>10092605
Holy shit what, where can I buy this

I’m not sure which thread to post this in, but I have short and curly hair, you think styling it into a small fro is acceptable in Lolita? Or should I just wear a wig?

>>10092621
If you like sweet lolita, definitely! I don't have examples on hand but it'll be a super cute hairstyle to wear with a giant headbow.

Update on Atelier Pierrot shop marking down packages, as promised.
Ordered the 21st, arrived today (free ems shipping).
The box was neutral, had nothing to grab attention like shop stickers, etc. only the customs/address form.
They declared it under 2500yen as asked and I didn't have to pay customs.
It was well packaged and I received a large coated canvas AtiePie tote and a card with a thank you note.
Very pleased with my purchase and will definitely order from them again.

So if you want to order directly from them and want them to mark your package down, fill in the desired amount in the comment box.
You won't have to worry about customs.

>>10092605
That doodle pad is so cute though! is that a rip-off too? Not that I can draw, just wondering.

>>10092605

I'd like 10.

>>10088903
How nobody gonna talk about that maxi pad on the mannequin

>>10089218
Beat the cat

>>10092652
Probably bait, but not only is this cruel and disgusting, it will make the cat hate and fear you and thus be more inclined to pee on your stuff.

>>10092605
huh.. the bury me in my brand and salty look a lottt like those other ones. The shade is similar, but different enough. It does look like this person looked at A Gato's pins and copied them. Roses on the coffin and everything...

>>10092634
Thank you! I wonder how much longer they'll have free shipping,I can't find anything about that on their website

>>10092605
some of those stickers are unrelated to lolita

>>10092605
>>10092655
Honestly the Bury me in Brand looks kind of generic? Like when you think about that phrase you think of a coffin?? Nothing looks like a direct copy. Maybe inspired by but not copied. Same with "Salty" like how many ways can you draw that?

>>10092655
Didn't realize more of these were her designs too, ouch

>>10092668
A tombstone maybe?

>>10092688
The shade, salty and bury me in my brand look like they were all 'inspired' by A. Gato. Salty and shade are different enough that if I saw them by themselves I wouldn't think much of it, but all three together is sketchy.

>>10092668
having a plain coffin with text inside and also a rose and a bow is suspicious. There's a million different ways they could have done the coffin :/

>>10092665
I don't think it's an event or anything, it sounds like they always have free shipping for orders over 20k. I don't know how they're not losing money on the EMS shipping when they don't even charge foreigners taxes though... I hope they don't change their mind about the free shipping down the line.

>>10092955
A. Gato herself said she does not claim 100% ownership to the ideas that use the pop culture references and similar themes. Neither are original ideas. Both look different enough. So whatevs. Like it's a sticker. On a sheet with a dozen other stickers.

Anyone glad to see Moitie use another model for once that’s not Fanny?
I know this is their staff photos but at least they have a more on brand styling and look. Hopefully they’ll have more new releases modelled by others this year.

IW has some news items up for reservation on Friday, the 8th of Feb.

The Camille Blouse is 16,800yen (without tax). Comes in white, beige and black.

>>10093044
The Rose Petal Dress is 30,800yen (without tax).
Comes in Smoky Pink×Beige, Purple Rose×Beige, Bordeaux×Beige, Navy×Beige and Black×Beige

>>10093025

>>10091323
I’m not into religion now but my family is catholic (one of my favorite memories from childhood is my great grandmother teaching me the rosaries, and I went I catholic school).
The rosary is kind of like a prayer abacus and not a necklace, each bead is a a prayer. Some rosaries have more variety, like an extra metal part, different beads, etc. and that’s so you can say different prayers. You put it on your wrist and count the beads as you pray. You keep them in a little pouch while you’re not using them, some people wear the pouch.
Anyway the only people I used to see actually wearing the rosaries might be a nun but that was rare. In recent years though you see a lot of hipsters or jersey shore types wearing them (though I’m sure their grannies would give them side eye at least).
All in all I really don’t think you should worry though! Personally I think they look better if they’re tailored to your outfit and the little pendants are switched out for something matching your aesthetic. May Mana be with you, amen.

>>10093025
Nothing wrong with Fanny aside from the fact that she doesn't look good in black.

http://juliette-et-justine.com/vote201902

Would some gulls mind voting for my dream dress Tenderesse? I'd appreciate that a lot.

Another reason to vote: We need to outvote the Chinese who would go for the millionths re-release of Petite Robe de être et le Néant or Paysage. Please make a re-release of rare dresses happen instead!

Thanks, I believe in you gulls!

>>10093025
Yes

>>10093025
No

>>10093089
No, there are way nicer dresses that we can vote for

Can someone who owns this tell me how short the skirt portion is? I’m trying to figure out if I have a petti small enough for it or if I need to buy a new one

>>10093089
I voted for Religieuse

>>10093089
Ew.
I'm voting for Dragon Chan, still salty I missed the release.
>>10093063
Wtf

>>10093096
The back looks like toilet paper got tangled up in the ruffles

>>10093098
That's my favourite thing about it

>not voting for La Dame à la Licorne

>>10092959
Taxes wouldn't go to them though, that'd go to the govt. They asked me to pay shipping for shoes, I think it's only dresses and lighter items.

>>10093103
Are you saying they don't declare foreign sales?

>>10093102
>not voting for Dragon-chan

>>10093025
That bolero looks OK. Is it velvet?

I'm looking for a new black umbrella. I would also like to be able to use it as a parasol. What brand makes these the most waterproof and least likely to rust?

>>10093089
Thanks for posting this anon. I voted for it, as I only like a few of their dresses and it looks like they aren't including green dragon chan.

>>10093089
>No Robe de la Mystérieuse-Rêve
>No green Dragon-chan
FML

>>10093107
I'm saying it's a tax exemption.

>>10093089
>No Robe de la Mystérieuse-Rêve
Voting Tenderesse for you, anon. Maybe next time my ultimate DD will be an option and you can vote for it?

>>10092605
Link, (angelic) pretty please?

>>10093128
>not voting for the gegege no kitarou dress

>>10093159
That's so fucking pretty, I don't want it but i'd love to see a happy gull wearing it.

Do you gulls think short girls can pull off underskirts in an attempt to make things more OTT? To me it just always makes them look dwarfish.

>>10093268
Depends on where the underskirt hem hits on the particular person and what pettis are used. For some it looks great, for some it looks horrid imo

>>10093159
God I love the bottom but the cut around the neck is so meh to me. Is there a skirt version?

>>10093156
Why does only Atelier Pierrot get tax exemption? Sounds more like tax evasion to me

>>10093134
aatp

>>10093290
Because you don’t pay Japanese taxes if you’re not living in Japan, dumbass.

>>10093357
Nayrt but why is AtPi the only brand that does this? I always have to pay the Japanese taxes when buying directly from Baby, Meta, IW, etc.

Does anyone know where to find a lolita ''guidebook'' or history in Spanish?

>>10093359
Because they don't fill out the paperwork. AP, Baby, IW, etc usually offer it if you're shopping in Japan though and you have a visitor visa.

AtePie must think it's worth it to get the extra sales. Which imo it's working for them because I use them instead for JetJ, Sheglit, Abilletage, Na+H and other brands they sell.

how do you keep your white blouses white?

>>10093481
oxyclean

>>10093404
Pretty much every physical shop in Japan will give foreigners tax free if they can show their passport. They do have to fill out paperwork and calculate stuff, sometimes you'll have to go to a seperate part of the mall to get your cash back in hand.

It's understandable that baby and AP don't bother because it's probably a hassle to do for online sales when they get bloodbath releases anyway. AP doesn't even ship directly overseas or take paypal which is fine because I guess they're not really catering to the western market over other markets. AtePie probably gets few enough online international orders that it's worth doing the paperwork and offering to mark down for customs. Not sure how they don't lose out on the shipping though.

Does anyone remember someone who used to translate Japanese lolita blogs? Are those translations still available anywhere? I don't remember the account name but I think it was on livejournal.

I just thought about it because I saw this blog post and I think it's really cute.

そういえばここ数ヶ月、愛しのJaneをほとんど着てません
私の周りにJaneが好きなお友達がほぼいなくて淋しいです。
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Jane好きなお友達がほしくて、ホント店頭で声かけちゃおうかと思うくらいには悩みです笑。
Jane好き、Jane愛してるっていう大人ロリータの方で、
お茶やアフタヌーンティするのも好きって方がいたら、
ぜひお友達になってください
連絡待ってます笑
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Janeのこのシリーズはツボで、迷いに迷った末、一番好きなサックスにしました
お揃いのバックもお迎えしたよ
バックはネイビーも買っちゃった
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ネックレスもお洋服に合わせてq-potのアリスのにしたのだけど、
ひっくり返ってますね笑
.
仲良しのお友達がよく笑わせてくるので、
わりと普段はよく笑ってます笑。
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ロリータってお澄まし顔のイメージあるし、
「口を開けて笑わない」なんて誰が決めたかわからない変なイメージもあるけれど、
そういう誰が法なのかわからない常識という名のルールに疲れちゃうこともあるので、
珍しく笑ってる写真も載せてみました笑
.
ルールも時には必要だけど、笑顔ってとても素敵なことだと思うの。
私はたくさん笑っていたいなーって思います
人の笑顔見てると元気出るから私は笑顔の人が好きです
いつも笑わせてくれるお友達には本当に感謝してます。
大好き

>>10093626
I remember theosakakoneko posting a few: http://theosakakoneko.blogspot.com

>>10093089
tfw no green dragon-chan WHYYY

>>10093632
Same

>>10093089
>it's almost all "new JetJ" shitty, printed stuff instead of the beautifully detailed solids they once did
That's really never happening again, huh...

I voted for your dream dress because it's the least disappointing, good luck anon.

>>10093716

Damn anon you read my mind.

I voted for that dress even before this post popped up. At the very least I can get some overpriced lacy shit to wear to a cocktail party I guess.

Found some scans of the S/S 2019 Angelic Pretty collection from Spoon

>>10093724

>>10093728

>>10093290
It’s literally the exact opposite. Any online shop within Japan shipping items directly overseas doesn’t need to charge the 8% consumption tax to the customer. AtePie is the one doing the correct thing here.

>>10093732
Just wanted to clarify my comment, they obviously need to charge the 8% tax on domestic orders being shipped within Japan.

Just watched Geostorm and had to do a quadruple-take because I thought this was Kammie, and I'm still not 100% sure it's not?

>>10089218
>mfw vinegar and baking soda and food color is how you made a volcano for a grade school project.
anon, did you actually combine the two? hope the result wasn't too messy...

>>10093716
When they do solids they don't sell well so

>>10093769
I just went with vinegar to get the smell out and it worked out fine, lost minimal glitter and it doesn't smell like cat piss anymore
I usually use both of them together on clothes that need a good wash and it's fine, I was just worried if the colors would bleed or fade something crazy, but nope

>>10093757
Those portions were filmed in Louisiana, so it’s definitely possible. I’d just ask her.

>>10093772
Admittedly I don't pay much attention to JetJ anymore since all the pieces they seem to release now are equivalent to glorified skater dresses with a print, but the last time I saw solids from them they were really ugly, had quality issues, and/or cost an arm and a leg. The latter wouldn't be as much of an issue if it weren't for the first two, especially when they once offered dresses at about half the cost they do now without all these problems. It makes sense why they're not selling.

>>10093724
I'm obsessed with celestial themes and will buy pretty much any sweet dress with stars on it but this one is butt ugly. Don't think I'm going to buy this one

>>10093724
Discount Risa's poses are awful. She looks like someone in labor. I hope lolitas don't start doing them.

>>10093728
I kind of love that diner look, but it's more like a costume than anything. Maybe if it's like 50% off I'd consider.

>>10093624
You get discounts for shipping with EMS if you're a business and shipping more packages. And if it's lighter items only, I can see how it benefits them.

>>10093089
I'm not a JetJ fan at all so I tossed in a vote for you. Good luck anon!

>>10093858
That makes sense, I can't imagine heavy coats, shoes, bags etc. would be profitable to ship for free but stuff like dresses and shirts that cost 3000 yen or less to ship It'd be reasonable. What's 3000 yen when you stand to make 30000?

>>10093858
>>10093901
I wonder though, when it comes to non-AtePie stuff, AtePie sells it at the same price that any brand they carry would (by which I mean they don't raise the prices on items even though they're acting as a proxy), which means that for any given item they sell, they still have to give the other brands their money AND pay shipping on top of that, even if it is just 3k yen. I can't see how they're making a profit? I guess it doesn't matter since it benefits the consumer and that's their problem to deal with but I can't help but wonder.

>>10093908
I assumed that they're getting it at a slight discount so that it's still profitable for them to sell.

>>10093908
I imagine they get their stuff from brands at some kind of wholesaler/supplier rate so they don't run at a loss from buying the items themselves. They would likely make less profit than other retailers by discounting the 8% tax and shipping but since it's just for international orders it probably isn't too much of a big deal to them. It all depends on how many international orders they actually get compared to instore or domestic orders where they charge the 8% to Japanese residents.

It's also important to keep in mind that AtePie has other retailers like Wunderwelt to compete with for a lot of their brands so they need to provide incentive for overseas customers to buy from them. If I were to buy a new Baby dress I could likely only get it from Baby, so they don't have much reason to give tax exemptions because they have no competition. But if I were to buy say, a Moitie dress it'd probably be stocked on both AtePie and Wunderwelt which has the advantage of getting every release thanks to shared parent company. AtePie is a physical store and their own brand first but I guess they want to have something to offer overseas online customers so they can make those sales on the side. They also order in stuff if asked so they're pretty hard to beat. I can't imagine that the international sales make up a huge portion of their customer base though. Many people don't even know they exempt tax and shipping.

>>10093095
18"
a regular classical puppets will just fit it without peeking

>>10093728
I'd like the diner set more if it was made from a heavier material that doesn't wrinkle so much

>>10093908
I think you’re confused. AtePie would certainly not be paying the retail price for items they stock for other brands. They receive it at a discount from the manufacturer (cost price) and sell it at a markup and keep the profit, the same as any retailer which stocks items from a number of different manufacturers or suppliers.

Also for anyone who is confused about the 8% tax, AtePie doesn’t loose any money by not charging this tax on international orders. They’re not required to charge it for those orders because it’s not considered a domestic purchase. The 8% tax charged on domestic orders isn’t profit for the company, it goes directly to the Japanese government.

So the only possible part they may be losing money on is the free shipping, but considering the discounts japan post offers to businesses I’m sure they’ve worked out a way for it to be a cost-effective promotion

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I'm pretty new to lolita and was wondering if there was some kinda master list of dresses I can look through or something?

>>10094023
Try lolibrary.org

>>10094027
You're a blessing, anon, this is exactly what I wanted

>>10093847
Can't unsee labor pose in bottom left.

>>10093996
thank you!

>>10093757
For How Did This Get Made, or of your own free will?

Has anyone from the UK ordered from innocent world before? How much is their shipping fee?

Kuragehime rerelease! Chinese Lolitas gonna flip their lids

>>10094092
There was an anon with it as a DD

nice to see some better pics of it

>>10094089
It's right there, anon

>>10094098
I totally missed that! Thank you!

>>10088903
Don't wear AP but still wish they'd cut it out with that penis roll wig.

>>10094125
I think you have issues if you see penises everywhere

>>10089301
Tragic. She can afford a gym membership with all that scalping, but then again, you can't outrun a shitty diet.

>>10093921
>>10094022
This. 8% tax doesn't go to AtePie. Do people not know what tax means?

>>10094092
I'm happy for the girl who wanted this but damn I don't really care for it myself. Tacky

>>10093267
Also voted for the Gegege dress.

>>10093632
I got it during the last release and still haven't worn it. Next week for sure.

>>10093716
I love some of the prints but pick up the solids whenever I find one in a nice color. Not a solid, but just got a tartan off WW. So well made, well fitting, and versatile.

>>10089348
It's not super old, and it's got quarter shirring which will often give you an extra 10cm on the listed measurement. She's probably one of these tubular chubby bodies, looking at that extra chin...

EU lolitas, will the trade agreement with Japan have any positive effect on us in terms of reduced customs? Will AP Paris have a less ridiculous markup? I'm really curious to know if we'll benefit from it at all but the more I read the more confused I get.

>>10089301
I actually like the coord but her face is nightmare fuel

>>10094159
Most likely no. The trade deal only affects products made or produced in Japan and most AP stuff isn’t made in Japan.

>>10088690
What a fucking word salad

>>10093728
I know it's a stupid pet peeve but model bitch face doesn't suit AP's aesthetic in the least. Damn.

>>10094159
I don’t think so, I tried to read the agreement but it’s mostly Japan who has to lift their tariffs on certain of industries of ours. Nothing about the clothing industry.

>>10094159
We will see soon, I have 2 big tenso packages to get from customs on monday. But the fact that they still landed there in the first place doesn't make me enthusiastic.

>>10094092
Only so they can make replicas of it? Great.

>>10094195
Agreed, they either look retarded (those tongue-out expressions especially) or absolutely miserable to wear these clothes.

>>10094201
The person who sent it has to include proof in/on the parcel that it's made in Japan

>>10094159
God I wish AP Paris wasn't so expensive, the second markdown sale prices are nearly the standard price everywhere else. Its crazy. Itd be great if they were able to reduce the markup.

>>10094234
I see, that could be hard. There are still all the invoices and brochures inside with the second hand shop locations, japanese writings and yen currency. Though I'd rather they don't ask me to open it because I have been faking invoices for the past few years.

>>10094092
I wonder how the person who spent 8k on it in that yahoo auction feels right now...

>>10094239
They can only reduce it for items that are manufactured in Japan. If only that shop that sold Moitie and Boz was still open...

>>10094256
Can't they just look at the tags on the clothes? Some of AP's releases are made in Japan. Like jewelry snow was. Some of their solids/patterned releases are as well. AP even writes it in English.

>>10094286
Is this IW in a normie ad of some sort?

>>10094286
>cat
yes glorious I'll take ten

>>10093724
Wow these pics make the dresses look terrible, I thought it was all taobao until I read the caption. Also, where's Risa gone? I don't like who this new model is, despite never even liking Risa in the first place

>>10094304
Are you new? Tina has been a model for longer then Risa. And there's two models in the pictures. Nana is the other model.

>>10094304
Her insta is katouchan

>>10094256
Even then, only custom tax is affected, import tax still applies.

Just a question- Gulls who prefer to sell to other gulls, is there a specific reason for this? I don't mind it and I'd rather a gull buy my things from me.
In my case, I feel like another gull is going to take better care of it and is more likely to wear it well. They'll know it's not a cosplay and is probably not a DDLG fetish-whore.

When does Tokyo Alice usually update? Or is it just inconsistent?

>>10094296
>brand teaparty + vending event
>normie ad
Obviously not.

>>10094650
in the evening

>>10094465
/cgl/ is the Lolita platform I'm the most active on by far (just dont really care for fb/ig in general) and even with all its faults I still feel a bit of loyalty and solidarity to this board.
Plus I kind of like the idea that I could be passing along something to an anon that's made me smile before. That's kinda silly I know but it's something that I like to think about still.

Plus like you said I'm pretty certain it won't be going to some sissy or kinkster if it goes to a gull and I fell pretty good about that.

>>10094683
same desu

>>10094683
I mean, there are sissies that use this board, so... I'm sure there are some littles too.

As I scroll endlessly through the ridiculously long wardrobe posts that feel the will never end, I realize how much I hate large wardrobes, including my 80 main piece wardrobe. I want to get rid of it. How the fuck to I break my attachment issues with my rare “popular “ brand I love, but never have time to wear because most items I wear are plain for daily wear, and my 30 rare pieces wait around for the 2 times a year I’m able to go all out and wear them.

>>10094714
Do you actually love them though? If you're feeling this resentful about them then maybe you don't actually like them, it's just a nostalgia thing. Look at them all and ask yourself if you would part with them for market rate if someone offered you that cash on the spot, if yes put them up for sale. If it's an emotive I want someone to love this dress like I used to, lurk people's WTB/dream dress posts and offer to them

>>10094695
Considering the other meaning of cgl I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a few of them.

>>10094714
Be aware that the term "rare" only applies for a small time frame in your life. Often anons with similar goals say 'it's so hard because I most likely will never find them again' which is plain wrong. Lolitas are no custom items, they are manifactured in large numbers.

>>10094762
Somehow I don't think she has 30 Holy Lanterns. There's plenty of stuff that never pops up (DD thread anons pining for years over some things). And if it does turn up it might be scalper prices. Sounds like you just want her to sell off her stuff in case there's something you're looking for.

>>10089218
Hey anon, the only thing that will get cat piss out of fabrics is an enzyme based cleaner, like Nature's Miracle. I bought a normie wool skirt once and it reeked, I tried everything and only the enzymes could get that piss smell out, and even that took a few soaks. Good luck!

>>10094714
Organise a swap & sell meet in your comm, take everything in a couple of suitcases. I decided I wanted a smaller wardrobe 3 years ago, but I kept only thinking about it and not doing anything. Finally sold 19 pieces at a swap meet last month, and it felt to relieving. Motivated me to finally photograph everything and put it on facebook and lacemarket.

>>10094764
>There's plenty of stuff that never pops up
For example? Everything pops up through the years, the question is if you check often enough to notice it.

>pining for years
1-4 years is nothing compared to a love span and not forever, which was my point.

>Sounds like you just want her to sell off her stuff in case there's something you're looking for.
Where did I say she should sell her stuff? I said she and other anons shouldn't worry about rarity.

>>10094825
*live span lmao

>>10094825
*life span lmao

>>10093724
The model looks almost as disappointed in these dresses as I am.

>>10093724
>>10093728
>>10093730
I feel like some of these would make good reaction images

>>10094714
>Please sell to me. Especially if you have some old school gems.

I know how you feel though. I culled my moderate 50 piece wardrobe down last year to the things I like most. While it was painful, and the constant wardrob challenges and posts make me ache for my past excess, I'm glad to have a more funtional wardrobe. I was just buying willynilly and collecting for years...
I switch up my thinking and try to enjoy the fact that I got to touch, occassionally wear, care for, and see those pieces up close for the time I had them. You should think in a positive way and part with the pieces that are not practical for your personal style.

>>10093724
Why can't models smile and be happy to wear lolita anymore?

>>10094909
Spoon has always been "artsy".

>>10094909
Ehh, I like the pouty not smiling thing, but only when it's cute. I hate smiling in pictures

Two more prints from the AP S/S collection. Fruity Lemon and some kind of bunny print

>>10095017
I believe that's Fleur Cat

>>10095022
You’re right and I’m blind and dumb apparently.

>>10095023
I can see why you thought they were bunnies, the white and pink stripes blended into the ears.

>>10093724
On a side note, the lace topping on those socks looked unflattering when exposed.

And again another size increase by AP, Discount Risa isn't even that thin and it she's swimming in these.

>>10095030
I don’t get why AP suddenly hates OTKs. It’s all tights or ankle socks. Some of us have cankles AP!

I also don’t think it’s even that AP is upping their sizes, they’re just purposefully choosing oversized unflattering cuts. The oversized clothing trend from Korea seems to be bleeding into lolita.

>>10095041
I get the oversized trend happening. But there's oversized to look cute, like sweaters and jackets, and a goddamn dress where the waist, arms, and bodice are way too big isn't cute.

>>10095041
They've been selling plenty of lace otks, they just sell out quick.

>>10094894
I do have a few old pieces, but I’m not sure if I’m ready to let go of those yet. I just pulled out 5 “these need to go” pieces and will be putting them up on LM.
As I went through I thought no, I definitely need to keep this, and this, and this, and this, etc so... maybe I just need to pick a few out at a time so I’m not so overwhelmed at the thought of loosing everything at once.

>>10095050
I think they’re making them oversized thinking they’ll be more flattering on bigger bodies but it looks terrible on everyone fat and thin.

>>10095081
Why do you hate large wardrobes anyway? I personally like mine.

>>10094909
Modern lolita is suffering.

>>10095089
I have so many items that the bar is bending and warping from the weight of my dresses and my closet doesn’t have enough space. Realistically, aside from the rare meetup on convention I only wear the same 20 dresses for day to day type stuff, and then there are about 10 Dresses I choose from for my fancier date night outfits. The rest are things like Puppet Circus, my showcase items, sailor Lolita OPs just in case there’s a sailor themed meet, and a bunch of older printed AP and AatP dresses that I love but just don’t wear anymore because I don’t really feel comfortable wearing big prints out daily anymore.
Besides, I may be moving to a smaller house soon and I’d have to move 2/3 of my wardrobe into a storage unit. I just have too much. Everything feels crappy and cluttered and it gives me anxiety. But what made me realize how much of an issue I had with it was when it felt like it was taking years to scroll through some of the huge wardrobe posts like bonwivi or whatever her username is. It’s just too much.

>>10095023
Nothing says "k a w a i i" quite like mouthless demon cats with black beady eyes

>>10095081
This is why I wish I had local lolita friends. Someone to hang out with me at my house and help me go through my closet and say sensible, at least partially-objective things. It's so easy to get caught up in sentimentality by myself.

>>10095081
5 is a good start; see how you feel after one or two have sold!

>>10094942
>>10094909
Lolitas have always shown 0 emotion in pictures

>>10095135
>Demon cat eyes
Now I kind of want it...

>>10095154
It works for gothic and old school but these pouty daddy fuck me doe eyed expressions look awful in modern Sweet

>>10095160
Have you tried not associating it with ddlg shit?

>>10095174
Nayrt, even if you don't associate it with ddlg (which I don't because that's dumb), it's still not a good look.

>>10095119
Same here, after a while having too many items actually give me anxiety.
I probably have like 200 items and it's just too much.

>>10095041
If you're young and have cankles you may want to restrict your carbs and do something about it. Fluid retention is a sign of heart failure.

>>10095119
I feel you anon. The dresses are a problem but I also have ten long coats, and the wool ones are heavy and the bottom of them take up so much space. And I live in a country without walk-in closets. Next time I move the new apartment better have some creative storage options.

>>10095023
Ok but this kinda makes me think of a creepy ghost Espeon.

>>10095291
You do realize most people are fat, right? They need more than that

>>10095372
Fuck off with your Fat Acceptance bull shit.
Most people are not fat. But most americans are. Stop freaking out for a clothing company in a country that isnt suffering from an obesity epidemic to catee to fat westerners who cant put down a fork and go on a treadmill.
Being a fat disgusting slob is a choice. And an easily changable one.

>>10095375
Fat acceptance? Read it again. No need to rage to someone who agrees with you. All I wrote was that there's a lot of fat people and that's usually the reason for their cankles.

Does anybody have fire insurance for their dresses? I've never purchased insurance before but I want to insure my wardrobe. I think it's worth about 15-20k in total. Would I have to/how would I prove how much my clothes are worth?

>>10095377
My bad in that case. I thought you were saying that most people are fat so they need more than what the brands have available. May you and Mana forgive my transgression.

>>10095379
I had plain renters insurance and I upped it about 20k in coverage for my wardrobe

>>10095393
What are your premiums? I'm finally getting enough stuff to start thinking about it, before all my stuff was thrift or given but now I'm getting more and more new lolita pieces over the years that I think I probably have about 25k in just lolita. Blouses, shoes, and bags aren't cheap in addition to dresses

>>10094092
rerelease kuranosuke stripe jsk you coward

>>10095291
I was mostly joking about my cankles anon, im average weight with no problems, i just think ankle socks are unflattering because they give me a cankle effect

>>10095160
You're gross

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