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Post inspo, your lastest finds, etc etc

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>>10157683
Im learning to style my hair and this is so easy and cute

>> No.10157699

>>10157687
I really like how feathery and fluffy this looks. Total 90s vibes.

>> No.10157996

Really? Just go back to your discords ffs

>> No.10158022

>>10157996
Literally why are you mad about it

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>>10158038
some inspo i found recently, hope you guys don't mind the dump. 90s and early 2000s forever!

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>>10158041
She looks like she hates me and I dig it

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>>10158070
oh man i love her

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>>10158070
This is fracking cute as heck

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>>10157687
this seems so simple and yet i failed so badly trying it

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>>10157683

Close to a decade and a half ago...

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https://item.mercari.com/jp/m35247328965/

is this the museum owner scalping these pieces? I kind of hoped she’d keep and preserve them, maybe show them off occasionally during pop-up exhibits.

>> No.10158274

>>10158227
More info about this dress?

>> No.10158281

>>10158274
it’s a 2002 fashion show exclusive - released in blue and pink colorways, sold through lottery. all info is in the description.

>> No.10158284

>>10157687
I'm having such a hard time figuring out whats happening in steps 2&3, help pls

>> No.10158308

>>10158274
i think kato-san made it

>> No.10158313

>>10158284
I think in #2 they’re wrapping a strand of hair around the base of the pigtail and securing it with a pin and pinning the ends of the hair up in #3.

>> No.10158315

>>10158227
> scalping

>> No.10158326

>>10158315
the original dress was sold for 150, the next buyer (the museum lady) sold it for 450, and the person who bought it from her is now selling it for 750, and it jumped 600 dollars in about a year.

>> No.10158328

>>10158326
It’s one of a kind, people can literally charge whatever they want for it.

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>>10158227
I got it! I was devastated when I missed it last year so I'm so fucking happy, even with the $600 markup

>> No.10158333

>>10158331
Dedication

>> No.10158336

>>10158326
As >>10158328 said. You sound like you’re salty because you can’t afford it.
Congrats >>10158331!

>> No.10158340

>>10158328
I'm stating facts anon stop spitting salt because you can't handle the fact this dress has been increased insanely high in a year.
>>10158331
CONGRATS! Excited to see it worn

>> No.10158345

>>10158340
>maybe if I use buzzwords people will stop pointing out the fact that people can charge whatever they see fit for a OOAK item

>> No.10158346

>>10158331
Congrats Anon! How do you plan coord ir?

>> No.10158348

>>10158345
okay gemgem

>> No.10158349

>>10158348
>continuing to shout out whatever you can think of to deflect attention away from you being a dumbass

I hope Gemgem gets her fat grubby hands on your DD, stretches it out, and then scalps the shit out of it

>> No.10158350

>>10158349
Me telling you what actually happened makes me stupid? Why are you so offended by that? I actually would have paid that much for it except I have other financial things I have to take care of. It's a beautiful, rare one of a kind dress made by Kato-san. As much as it sucks that it inflated I never said it was scalped. Stay mad fatty kek

>> No.10158351

>>10158350
>Why are you so offended?

That’s a major case of projection you got going on there

>> No.10158353

>>10158350
> As much as it sucks that it inflated I never said it was scalped

>>10158227
>is this the museum owner scalping

If it’s not you, why are you replying like it is?

>> No.10158360

>>10158227
Anon the museum was basically a scam itself and the owner already had a history of scalping before, why are you surprised?

>> No.10158367

>>10158360
I didn’t know! I only heard of her haggling with original sellers and not much else. that sucks.

>>10158315
>>10158328
I didn’t mean to say that it’s not an incredibly rare piece and the price isn’t justified, just that it was high - I suppose "selling" would’ve worked just fine. why argue over a misused word?

>> No.10158379

>>10158367
Yeah, similar to our scalpers/resellers, she used to buy very cheap (as in under 5k yen) items and sell them for triple the price a week later or buy big bulk sets off yahoo just to immediately resell all of it. She also was a serial deleter of her listings and tweets related to them for obvious reasons and used to directly butt into sales negotiations to offer the full price or a slightly higher price on a one month payment plan.
Her museum idea was originally crowdfunded and with the money she raised (463500 yen), she then bought almost all of her (mostly extremely cheap) exhibits off fril,mercari and yahoo about one month before the museum opened. The way she charged her museum fees were also supposedly a rip-off but I'm not sure what exactly was going on with that matter.

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>>10158379
Forgot to say, she also deleted comments under her crowdfund when it was still running who asked for receipts and details.

>> No.10158414

>>10158039
the blouse ruins this
looks like it might be a sailor collar but it comes across kindof like an office blouse cos her hair covers it...and then there's huge princess sleeves? such an odd design choice

>> No.10158431

>>10158326
No, the seller (for $750) is the museum lady リタソ.

>> No.10158444

>>10157996
bro just hide the thread

>> No.10158446

>>10158331
yay!!! post pics when it arrives!

>> No.10158461

>>10158227
No offense anon, I love the fuck out of meta but this is ugly as hell and below etsy tier.

>> No.10158540

>>10158461
I wanted to get it but it looks so crappy up close. Did you see the hat? gross. It looks nice from afar, but I'm not paying $600 for a badly constructed dress. Good on the other anon tho. I want to see it coorded

>> No.10158543

>>10158331
Literally why. You're the reason scalpers exist.

>> No.10158546

>>10158055
Sorry to break it to you, trying this hard this not *edgy*

>> No.10158547

>>10158543
Because anon can do whatever she wants with her money.

>> No.10158573

>>10158546
>getting mad about an old photo
Dont you have other threads to shit up

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Found this in the article below from late 2008. It's about Akihabara. Keep in mind the first part does talk about sex shops.
https://boingboing.net/2008/09/29/charles-platt-on-aki.html

>> No.10161340

>>10157996
Anon calm the fuck down and go somewhere else

>> No.10161345

>>10158056
They are happy and just enjoying the moment. You should try it since you seem very tense and bitter about small shit like this. You might want to let yourself be happy for once.

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>>10161218
did the writer bother any research at all?
>charmmy kitty, a hello kitty knockoff
>KNOCKOFF

what

>> No.10161368

>>10161345
Nayrt but stop being so defensive and read the sentence to the end. They aren't bitter.

>> No.10161406

>>10158038
i identify so much with this girl and her chonky calves

>> No.10161407

Can I request some old school classic in this thread? It’s very easy to find old school goth and sweet but I’m lacking inspiration pics for old school classic

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>>10161407
Check out the gobelin thread
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the original meme socks

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>>10161519
That concludes my dump, I tried to post less commonly shared pictures

>> No.10161527

>>10161406
First thing I noticed because me too.

>> No.10161634

>>10158070
What are those?

Seriously, link to shoes?

>> No.10161641

>>10161521
Thank you, anon!

>> No.10161646

>>10161634
Why would they still be available? This photo is from 1998, the company that sold them is almost certainly no longer running

>> No.10161689

>>10161634
retard

>> No.10161692

I have a huge archive of Re-Ri's pics somewhere. If I find them, I'll post them

>> No.10162187

>>10161634
it says right on the image anon
>also how can you even tell what they are or that you want them just by seeing the underside

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>>10161692
Please do! I love Re-ri.

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>>10161646
because it is unheard of for a company to last 20 years

>> No.10162344

>>10162338
try using your fucking brain instead of being purposely dense

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>>10161516
wow she is really beautiful
thanks for dumping anon

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>>10162344
lol

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I scored this op from mercari (right pic) which I’m pretty sure is another colour way of left pic but lolibrary only lists the colour ways as pink and blue and the one I bought does not look blue in the slightest. is it normal for lolibrary to be wrong about the colourways because usually they’re spot on?

>> No.10162582

>>10162581
Lolibrary doesn’t have every release of every item, and has kinda gone to shit.

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>>10162581
a lot of their sizes listed on releases are frequently labeled wrong

>> No.10162591

>>10162581
A lot of the older stuff is missing and hard to dig up now. It seems like another color that could have been with a re-release or special event. I have seen a few errors on colorways for entries, but usually it's due to translation error.

>> No.10162650

>>10162591
this. just a few days ago i found a jsk with the color listed as “griso” because the original person who entered it misread グリーン . i died

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>>10162581
It kind of does look blue to me. Like a very grey-ish sax color.

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Requesting pink velveteen coords, can be from any brand, coordinated with any color, just looking for some inspo.

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>>10162650
>griso
My fucking sides

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>>10162738
Does anyone have clear close up pictures of the collar of this op?
I own the pink version but it never came with it and I want to try and make a replacement close to the original.

>> No.10162845

>>10162737
I want this fucking dress in every color it was ever made in so bad.

>> No.10162853

>>10162581
it also came in solids, the sax one is featured in one of the early GLBs, as well as tartan. as other anons said, a lot of stuff is missing on lolibrary, especially old school. congrats on the OP, I own the pink one and it’s one of the most well made and comfortable pieces I own!

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>>10162825
not sure if it's specifically for the op, what's it called?

>> No.10162856

>>10162854
Little Princess Velveteen OP
https://lolibrary.org/items/btssb-little-princess-velveteen-op

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>>10161518
she has the same bodytype and build as me and this honestly is so cute and makes me feel so nice about myself

>> No.10166937 [DELETED] 

I used to get 30 dollar massages from a girl in full lolita cosplay and big eye contacts. 21 year old white cosplayer named Faith Arnett that made house calls to fund her cosplay.

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Is there a link for the Discord server? I like old school a lot, but only just found out there was a whole server dedicated to it.

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Is this edgy enough?

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>>10166966
bump

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>>10167032
Thats porn you idiot

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>>10166966
It's not an easy discord to get involved in, especially if you're asking from /cgl. You'd have better chances befriending the girls from the server before being added.

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>>10166966
>>10167085
Go to garbage-chan's social media, she put a link in her descriptions. But beware, it's tumblr to the max. If you have opinions that disagree with the majority or even just the mods of the server, don't say them.

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>>10167122
Seagulls aren't welcome

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>>10167153
Which is ironic, because they all lurk here, post here and bitch about posts from here.

>> No.10167193

>>10167153
they literally posted the link to the discord here before, how are gulls not welcome?

>> No.10167199

>>10167193
Anyone would have posted that, it's easily available on garbage-chans' instagram like the other anon >>10167122 said.

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>>10161478
I love this hadwear and hairstyle. I'll try this later and hope it works out

>> No.10167266

>>10158037
this outfit is cute, but this girl always looks like she doesn't even try.

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baby piece from 2004 called "garden apron" that i found out about today, is it bad i want this even if i find it kinda ugly?

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>>10167294
how is it ugly? Looks like cute, floral old school to me.

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>>10167294
How dare you

>> No.10168750

>>10167314
>>10167468
I mean it reminds me of my grandma's tablecloth but it's still cute in a way. Like a pug, ugly but cute

>> No.10168762

>>10168750
country cottage style isn't automatically "ugly" just because old people like it. I don't see how it being like a "grandmother's tablecloth" makes it terrible unless the print is ugly or if it was shapeless like a tablecloth.

>> No.10168945

>>10168750
I don't think it's ugly at all. It's cute and classic and really nice.

>> No.10168979

>>10166966
Imo don’t even bother. I was in it for a while. It’s just an echo chamber of edge and shitty opinions

>> No.10169045

>>10168979
Oof, someone sounds bitter. Post receipts or gtfo

>> No.10169053

>>10168979
its a few actual oldschoolers and a bunch of new ppl kissing up.

>> No.10169055

>>10169045
Posting "receipts" is against the rules and would get them banned. Join it yourself if you don't trust the word of the other 3 anons who are saying the same thing.

>> No.10169301

>>10168762
ugly is subjective from person to person. I like the apron, but lets face it, a lot of old school stuff we love isn't loved by everyone.

>> No.10169314

>>10168979
Lying again won't do you any good. Only gets you kicked out of servers ;)

>> No.10169333

>>10168979
The only reason anyone has ever gotten booted or banned was because of inactivity or breaking server rules so I'm not sure who you're trying to get sympathy from

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i recently got this old meta jsk but cant find the name of it on lolibrary, does anyone know whats its called?
it seems really old so i figure this thread would best to post int

>> No.10170176

>>10170088
Not sure but good luck getting those pit stains out that was the only reason i didn't want to buy it desu

>> No.10170178

>>10170176
yeah im definitely ready to give it a wash when it arrives

>> No.10170181

>>10170178
If you could get an upclose of the embroidery on the chest it might be an easier identifier. From what it was looking like to me it might be from around 2006-2008 but I couldn't get a good enough glimpse at the stitching. Good luck anon!

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>>10170181
here you go, i wont get it for a while but this was another picture the seller had up

>> No.10170209

>>10170185
Yeah it looks like it's from 2008, it's got similar embroidery that was used around then. Here's an example on a purse they released around that time with that rose embroidery https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-rose-embroidery-feather-cross-lesson-bag

>> No.10170255

>>10170185
A couple of places call it Ballerina Tulle (a blurry flickr pic) and Ballerina Style JSK (http://kooccachoo.blogspot.com/p/wardrobe.html).). I can't find anything else.

>> No.10170313

>>10170185
I looked up the choker and found it pretty easily. It's from Autumn 2004.
The dress is ALSO from 2004 and can be seen on the Go-Go Lolita-chan! blog. It is identified as item 430508. It can also be seen in the JP Meta webshop for October 2004 as "Ballerina Style JSK." and the EN Meta webshop as "Ballerina Pinafore Dress." There is also a black colourway. It sold for 19800 yen.
I will assume that these items were sold around the same time - Autumn 2004.
I played with the wayback machine to find this info. I also scoured GLB scans and lolibrary. Hope this helps!

>> No.10170339

>>10170088
Be prepared to repair some undisclosed damages if you’re unlucky like me. Got a Meta dress from this seller as well and it was in horrible condition.

>> No.10170757

>>10170209
>>10170255
thank you so much!

>>10170313
i can never get the wayback machine to work right for some reason but this is way more info I though I would ever get on this dress
thank you so much!

>>10170339
im not really super worried, i figured with a dress that old it wouldnt be in perfect condition anyway

>> No.10171839

>>10169314
There is no lie in their post, your server is an echo chamber with mostly shit opinions.

>> No.10172421

>>10171839
You going to cry about it? Maybe shit and piss your pants?

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EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUUUUUP NO ONE CAAAARESSSSS ABOUT YOUR FUCKING DISCOOOORRRDDD SHUT UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

>> No.10172716

>>10172704
NGL i don't get the obsession with it

>> No.10173249

>>10172421
Nah, I see the cringy shit they spout as entertainment.

>> No.10173313

>>10173249
Ok I came'd

>> No.10174586

>>10173249
Anon if you don't like us kindly fuck off. That server isn't for pussies who are too afraid to tell us shit to our faces, and if you're looking for a safe space to be a cunt go find a different server and leave us alone. Most of us are actual friends, and anyone new that joins is going to also be treated as such, unless they start acting like a fucking child. It is a weird obsession a part of CGL has and is cringey as fuck knowing everyone taking a part in it is a grown ass adult. I expect this behavior out of high schoolers, not near-30 year olds. Grow the fuck up.

>> No.10174589 [DELETED] 

>>10174586
nayrt you guys are actually pretty terrible people

>> No.10174613

link to discord channel? i havent been able to find it

>> No.10174621

>>10174586
>no u, the post
lmao keep playing internet tough guy min
and you guys literally do the same shit you're trying to project here

>> No.10176330

>>10174621
All Min does is be a retarded autistic faggot over ugly kpop dudes why is she even allowed in the server

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I'm not in the server and I'm fine that way, but I'd like this thread to actually discuss old school lolita and not some server, thanks.

>> No.10176482

>>10176330
Must be nice to be you. You seem to have a lot of free time since you care so much. Maybe find a hobby or fashion you actually like instead of shitting on other people, joining a server you don't like and being a horrible person overall.

>> No.10176560

>>10176330
Because she literally wears lolita you retard

>> No.10176563

>>10176482
You don't have to have a lot of free time to visit a discord and think a user is retarded. Neither does it mean they really care about it. This is some ridiculous level of coping. Also the more active users and mods regularly shit on other people too, guess that makes them horrible people by your definition.

>> No.10176776

>>10176563
??? Really give me any example???

>> No.10176781

>>10176776
>>10169055

>> No.10176847

>>10176781
Posting screenshots from ANY server on 4chan is grounds for a ban. Communities do the same thing. Try dealing with your issues with people face to face instead of finding roundabout ways to air your laundry on a basket weaving site.

>> No.10176852 [DELETED] 

Why Are women so stupid?

>> No.10176934

>>10176847
We aren't airing anything you retard not a single one of us tried starting shit

>> No.10176978 [DELETED] 

>>10176847
Are you retarded? This isn't about server rules, it's about cgl's rules.

>> No.10176984

>>10176847
Are you retarded? This isn't about server rules, it's about cgl's rules. Posting examples aka screenshots would get me banned on here. So join it yourself and watch them shit-talk and bitch about random lolitas on facebook who dared to say something they don't like and getting even uglier about things anons say here.

>> No.10176987

>>10176984
Fake

>> No.10176996

>>10176987
There's a search function on discord. I won't spoonfeed or take a ban just because you're in denial.

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>>10177546
this girl is my inspo for everything, i'm in love with all her coords

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I find the black/white lace going on all over so inspiring.

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>> No.10181839

In Fruits snaps, there’s a question about 美容室 biyoushitsu. Is it beauty salon? Some answer jibun, themselves, so does it mean they just do everything at home?

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>>10181839
I believe so, 'jibun' is often used when people are describing having created or carried out something themselves, kinda more like 'by me'.

>> No.10181912

>>10181600
dude, this was already posted.

>> No.10181925

>>10161406
I hate to be that anon but they only look chunky because of the shadows

>> No.10182062

>>10167032
hot desu

>> No.10182297

>>10158067
Oh god. My heart.

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>> No.10182343

>>10181576
the heavy nose contour and highlight really breaks the old street snaps illusion. People weren't doing that kind of makeup back then.

>> No.10182362

>>10182343
And the eyebrows. 2000s was peak sperm eyebrow.

>> No.10182363

Is buying a gobelin dress worth it? They seem kind of hard to coord.

>> No.10182410

>>10182363
old school coords are usually very simple, or they break the "rules" new lolita has decided to shoehorn now. gobelin is beautiful and rare, so it's absolutely worth it when you get the chance.

a gobelin dress is considered 'extra' for old-school, so it's usually the focal point of the outfit. you only really need a basic headpiece and shoes of the same colour - you don't have to match it to the print, just black or white would do. maybe a long sleeve blouse underneath if the dress is short sleeved.

>> No.10182413

>>10182363
gobelin is always worth it

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>>10182427

>> No.10182431

>>10182423
Her nips showing thru is A+

>> No.10182460

>>10182343
Oh no how dare someone use modern twists in old school, absolutely horrible. Fashion should never change and we should always do the same exact thing every time. The only makeup any lolita is allowed to wear is natural style with no lipstick. Not allowed to break any boundaries ever

>> No.10182469

>>10182460
Oh the irony. When will you defensive babies learn to take crit without throwing a shitfit about it?

>> No.10182477

>>10182469
Maybe I'm just a salty seagull who has nothing to do with her and I'm annoyed that people can't get outside of their own echo chamber to realize that you can take modern elements and style them old school. It doesn't take a genius to know that. also
>crit
Complaining someone's makeup style isn't rori enough for you isn't real crit retard get a life

>> No.10182486

>>10182477
Yeah yeah sure. You seem awfully bothered about simple crit for being "just a salty gull". So bothered you now spent two posts straw manning over an anon simply saying shitty IG contouring (which you can hardly call a "modern element" lol) ruins the streetsnap illusion or vibe they try to aim for so hard. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not valid critism.

>> No.10182593

>>10182363
it's not too hard. typically you should coordinate gobelin with simpler stuff so the gobelin stands out more.

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>>10182460
jesus christ, I didn't say any of that in my post. They spent obvious time getting everything else right, it's a shame that their modern makeup ruins the illusion of age. No where did I say they couldn't wear what the hell they want, stop projecting.

>> No.10182673

>>10182477
>spends time and effort to get look of old street snap
but they're trying to be modern!

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>> No.10185331

>>10161218
This whole thing was kind of just cringey to read

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>> No.10185395

>>10185332
can anyone id that skirt and cardigan? thanks in advance.

>> No.10185402

>>10185395
That’s got to be a square dancing skirt. I know it was part of the curriculum in Japan for a while.

>> No.10185476

>>10185323
WooOOoOooW, look at this retard trying to be edgy, this isn't lolita, lolitas are sweet lovelies and would never sit with trash~!!

>> No.10185498

>>10185476
She's sitting with trash but looks amazing
Current edgylitas look like trash and sit with trash

>> No.10185506

>>10185498
>She
that's Mana....

>> No.10185516

>>10185476
Stop strawmanning and form proper statements if you have something to say garbage-chan.

>> No.10185531

>>10185516
Not garbage-chan, but I think it's funny that being edgy was always kind of a lolita thing and now if any girl does it, she's demonized.

>> No.10185557

>>10185476
you really take every chance to complain that other people have opinions you don't like huh

>> No.10185571

>>10185395
It’s in one of the books I have at home. I’ll have to look later when I’m free but if I recall correctly I think the skirt is JM

>> No.10185614

>>10177543
It's awful how squished into that dress she is. Shirring is for comfort, not accommodating huge chests

>> No.10185620

>>10185395
Skirt is JM or MILK, with those buttons I think the cardigan is AP

>> No.10185782

>>10185498
proof it's literal retards complaining about edgelitas

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>>10185531
They were demonized for BEING edgy amd pretentious, not taking an edgy picture. Then later one thing became a connection to the other solely because of said cringy edgelords.

>> No.10185949

>>10185782
You want me to post the retarded shit edgelitas spout?

>> No.10186018

>>10185948
Those posts makes sense though? I agree with the first one at least.

>> No.10186034

>>10185948
I don't think these posts are "edgy" though, the second one is cynical sure but the first one isn't wrong.

>> No.10186037

>>10186018
Read it again, but with the knowledge that the person posting it started wearing lolita in late 2015 and was a homestruck cosplayer before, with her first coords being bodyline and taobao and then, after being called out on it, set her ig to private and deleted the posts that hint at the truth.

>> No.10186057

>>10186034
The first one barely has any substance and idek who she tried to mock with her quotes. I wouldn't call oldschool a substyle either but compared to the current fashion it sometimes does almost look like a quite different style. It's not like it couldn't be both, an era and a substyle.

>> No.10186078

>>10185948
I don’t get why garbage-chan statuses are being used to describe a whole group of people though.

>> No.10186094

>>10186078
this, most of the “edgelords” are pretty much exclusively hated because of their pics

>> No.10186109

>>10186057
It's not a substyle though, it's a kind of design and styling choice. A sweet AP OP from 2003 and a sweet AP OP from 2018 look very different and are often worn very differently, but they're both sweet.

>> No.10186126

>>10186078
It was an easy to access example. But you are right to some extend, it's the same 5-something vocal people who "tainted"(can't find another word sorry) the reputation of rest who like oldschool. That was my point. It's like the lifestyler shit all over again.

>>10186109
Yes anon, that's why I wouldn't personally call it a substyle. But I get where people are coming from when they do. Their definition of substyle is just slightly different from ours.

>> No.10186211

>>10185571
>>10185620
thank you so much.

>> No.10186226

>>10185337
WOW the color balance is amazing

>> No.10186261

>>10185476
Trash-chan, can you stop? It's not 'art' it's a shitty picture.

>> No.10186265

>>10185948
But she is right although

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Is it just me or have Japanese sellers been overpricing oldschool pieces recently? Someone on Mercari is trying to sell this for 12,299 yen, and they're firm on that price. What the fuck happened to that dress, and what kind of brain damage do you have to have to think it's going to sell for that much? A lot of other oldschool OPs I've seen have been over 10,000 yen too. What gives, this stuff used to be like 5,000 yen max?

>> No.10186282

>>10186281
Jeez, I wonder if those waist ties can even be saved.

>> No.10186288

>>10185948
idk why else you would be offended by her statuses like this unless you are the type of person she's talking about. maybe learn about the era of lolita you're bitching about before talking trash on lolitas who have at least a tiny bit of knowledge on the style

>> No.10186299

>>10186281
Did she get thrown in a mud puddle by a gang of yankis while wearing this?? How tf do you do this to waist ties?

>> No.10186310

>>10186288
See >>10186037
Read the thread before you reply. I'm neither offended nor do I disagree with the initial statement. But I'd rather not get thrown into a basket with a bunch of borderline roleplayers.

>> No.10186324

>>10186281
>>10186282
>>10186299
That looks like major water damage. This person probably had the waist ties untied while in storage, and accidentally left them sitting in a wet or humid spot for a while.
At this point, they're fucked.

>> No.10186335

>>10185948
The momoko thing is true though, Novala Takemoto made up the whole Rococo influence as part of the story of Kamikaze Girls. It never existed as an influence before that. Lolita wasn't about looking like a princess. I love KG so much but I can't grasp why people are happy to just pretend Lolita is influenced by rococo when there is literally no resemblance past wearing a crinoline/petticoat, and there's a very big difference even there.

>> No.10186387

>>10185948
I've never seen anyone say older lolita doesn't matter. That it's ugly, sure, but not that it doesn't matter, is she conjuring up this fake boogeyman just to "flex" how much she knows? Reminds me of being an insufferable teen desperate to prove how ~cool~ I was. That's what bugs me the most about these girls, they remind me of all the cringy parts of my youth. I'm sure they'll grow out of it but damn, it's so grating to see in the meantime.

Not to mention, where does she think visual kei bands, VW, and the brands took inspiration from? Especially the more classic styles, to say there's no vintage fashion influence there is just stupid. But I guess she wants to pretend lolita is just 100% original edge because that's what she wants to be.

>> No.10186396

>>10186335
I’d say that a lot of the shojo media in the 70s gave some European influence

>> No.10186397

>>10186335
lolita takes elements from so many different periods of historical fashion, there cannot be one style it draws from exclusively, though i believe there are lolitas who are drawn to one or more historical aesthetics in particular. I think lolita resembles 1850s fashion the most, though "victorian" gets tossed around a lot, but that's such a large era with so many different fashion trends, it's such a cop-out as a descriptor. I see lolita take from rococo just as much as georgian, edwardian, mid- and late-victorian, and even mid-century fashions.

>> No.10186442

>>10186335
So is lolita just meant to be edgy? I mean this in all seriousness, not trying to snark here. I find it difficult to understand how and why such a delicate-looking fashion came entirely out of edgy J-rock and has no old European fashion influence whatsoever. Were early lolitas just trying to look like creepy dolls?

>> No.10186451

Everyone please read this, I'm choking
http://web.archive.org/web/20080919214537/http://hillieras.ld.infoseek.co.jp/gothloli/fuman.html
For the anons who are short on time, here is some of it:
>The current clothes are more like, "dress up as a princess for special days!"
>Metamorphose's models sure are ugly! I shrank back a little when I saw the blonde one in person.
>I have a friend who's an MD (managing director?) in apparel, and when I showed her some Metamorphose clothes, she said, "They sure use cheap fabric!"
>Is Angelic Pretty's page supposed to be event and concert wear? If you were to wear a full costume or whatever like that and go out normally, it'd be no surprise if people thought you were some kind of troubled freak who wants to escape from the real world.
>I'm curious to know what jobs people who wear it every day have. By the way, other than students, I've only seen the unemployed, shut-ins, invalids, boutique clerks, and club hostesses...
>Can't there be lolita clothes WITHOUT lace?
>Sounds like there are a lot of people who think, "ooh... princess... pretty," and end up buying those things, but in the end, have no place to wear them and the clothes end up gathering dust.
>somebody wrote, "I'm the opening act before a strip show, and I used [a BtSSB dress] as my dance costume." As someone who likes Baby, I find that really depressing.
>Two smoker lolitas post to say that they don't think cigarettes suit lolitas, but they just can't quit smoking.
>there was someone who was trying to put together an outfit of "little princess coat, white headdress, and jeans"!! That's got to be a loli taboo... well, I don't like rules like that, but that outfit is just too much. What kind of fashion sense is that?
>Maybe they think we're weird because we dress differently from the current fads.
These are from 2001-2002. Sadly I reached the word limit, but theres much more.

>> No.10186455

>>10186442
>Were early lolitas just trying to look like creepy dolls?
Some did, others just wanted to wear cute shit, but simply doing that was enough to be considered rebellious, subversive, and "edgy" back then, especially in Japan. That is to say, even the cute sweet lolitas were considered freaks, pretty much the same as gothic lolitas.

>> No.10186547

>>10186455
to add on to you anon, people also need to think about the time period it came out of. The country was trying to get women to become more japanese and focus on making japanese babies. what better way to rebel than to take up extravagant european fashions

>> No.10186579

>>10186281
Not much of that stuff seems to actually get sold though, and god damn that’s a dumbass seller

>> No.10186671

>>10186451
this is gold, thank you so much anon I just had the best time reading through this

>> No.10186696

>>10185498
Mana is a dude... are you familiar with lolita fashion at all?

>> No.10186699

>>10186335
>Takemoto made up the whole Rococo influence as part of the story of Kamikaze Girls. It never existed as an influence before that. Lolita wasn't about looking like a princess.
>>10186455
>>10186547
Do you guys have any source for those infos or are you just making up facts based on impressions?

>> No.10186707

>>10186699
I do have to add that some people in those early Fruits snaps said that the point of their fashion was princess.

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>>10186699
Most sources on this are pretty old and some are unfortunately gone from the internet, maybe another anon can contribute more, but if you look in this video for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_O_W7BYD-E The hosts are playing up the whole "lolitas are freaky dangerous weirdos, is it really okay to approach them?" thing in the beginning, which obviously might likely be just acting and may not be what they truly think, but it does play into a certain stereotype that was commonly attached to lolitas, at least back then (this vid is from around the late 00s afaik).
There's also a bit from an interview with Mana in relation to lolitas and Vkei which also features sweet lolitas, gif related, and several essays and thesis on the fashion explore the Japanese public's reactions to it, which is negative in many cases. It's not Japanese in origin but you might find the thesis "Lolita - Dreaming, Despairing, Defying" an interesting read, a google search should bring it up.

>> No.10186847

>>10186828
>*pic related
Not sure why I remembered that was a gif, my bad.

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>>10187057
Can anyone ID this rabbit bag? It seems like it was popular in this period.

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>>10187060
It looks like an older Putumayo lace rabbit bag

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>> No.10187067

>>10187060
https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-bunny-pochette

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>>10187064
Thanks, anon!

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>>10187067
Huh, didn't know it was Meta. Thanks anon

>> No.10187623

Can someone share social media for lolitas now that do old school well? like ig, blogs, anything

>> No.10188023

>>10170088

I think this is called the Meta Ballerina Tulle JSK. It's a longer length

>> No.10188157

>>10187623
I know of yetaxa on Instagram. She also has a blog, the link is in the description.

>> No.10188244

>>10187623
I like:
@cryptkasper
@nefferinthia
@takumiwanibuchi
@hamukahamu
@rosenocturnalia
@livlotte
@mintkismet
@laceferatu
@josinemaaike
@naomi_apricot
@beanantea
@black_cat_lunaeri
@strawbcore
@yetaxa
@babeayaga
@scherazardharvey
@minami_x0
@___laudanum___
@fisksamlaren
@my.bunny.valentine
@ghostdesu
@frozen__bug
@verte_forest
@_thehungryghost_
@haunted.mochi

>> No.10188305

>>10188244
Half of these barely ever do old school or only have one old school coord.

>> No.10188638

>>10188157
>>10188244

Thank you!

>> No.10189733

mew thread >>10189732