/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

how do you wear a blouse with this kind of collar with a jsk? It looks stupid to me no matter how I do it

>>10273184
don't wear it with a jsk. pair it with a high waisted skirt and relax knowing your initial reaction was correct.

Best place to get warm, lolita-friendly tights for winter?

>>10273200
Fleece Lined Tights in basic colors to coord with.

>>10273200
>>10273202
Thanks! For anyone else wondering, I found these wool tights too, they look pretty good

https://www.uktights.com/product/498/trasparenze-jennifer-merino-wool-tights

>>10273200
>>10273205

That, and you can wear socks over your tights (if they're matching colours), lace tights over warm tights, socks over "nude" coloured tights, etc etc.

What does an unsold auction on LM mean? if I see a listing that ended unsold does that mean that there’s a chance I could still buy the item if I contact the seller about it?

>>10273307
It means that no one bought it, and yes, you can always try contacting the seller to see if they are able to sell it to you. Beware if it ended a long time ago though, because the seller may either be inactive or they sold/gave away the item on another platform.

since no one answered my question in the last thread after it being posted 3 times
Just moved to japan for uni and i don’t know how to pay mercari jp. It requires a Japanese debit or credit card but i only have my american one. They dont accept paypal either. I saw at 711 they have the mercari logo but i dont know how to ask how to make the payment to buy an item on the website

Is Lolibrary not search indexed by Google?
Whenever I search for a specific print/dress, Lolibrary is never one of the results, even if I include it in my search terms. The only way I can seem to find something is if I go through Lolibrary's site search directly. Even when I just search "Lolibrary" on Google, the site doesn't show up. Does anyone know why this is?

>>10273468
Just search on lolibrary. It’s a database why would it come up

>>10273468
I've noticed this too. It's weird that you can't even get to the main page from Google.

>>10273746
Other online "databases" like wikis will return specific pages, so maybe there's something different about the way lolibrary indexes entries.

>>10273362
Kms

>>10273362
learn japanese and read the instructions on the app

>>10273824
No dipshit thats not what im asking

>>10273362
Is there any way you can get a Japanese bank account or will you not be in the country for long enough?

>>10273931
You're being very hostile, maybe people would be more receptive to answering your question if you were not so hostile

>>10273955
>youre being hostile
Bitch we’re on 4chan and I politely asked 5 times

>>10273362
I really don't have a clue but this website might be helpful? https://www.bfftokyo.com/how-to-make-a-debit-or-credit-card/

I washed a black and white old school cotton dress and the white lace now has a slight brownish undertone to it. How can i fix it?

Does Infanta restock, or is it that once something's sold out, that's it?

I'm confused by animal ears in lolita. I know there are quality brand animal ears, but don't they just turn a coord into a costume? How can they be worn as "fashion"?

>>10274130
I don't like or wear them personally, but to be honest animal ears aren't even that unusual in normie fashion anymore so I wouldn't say they're inherently costumey (though they certainly tend that way)

>>10274130
I think they look best when they are a part of something. For example, a beret with bear ears.

Would I wear bear ears by themselves in a shop? No.

Would I wear a beret with bear ears to a shop? Yes.

But, most notoriously, cat ears on their own, even brand cat ears, just look tacky in my opinion.

If people want the affect of ears, it's best to make space buns.

>>10274132
Neglected to include this:

If they want the effect* of ears that aren't on some sort of hat, then it's best to make space buns.

You'll still need to accessorize your head of course, but you'll have that sort of effect.

>>10274130
Cause it's cute. There is no logic.

Update from a question from last thread, Tenshi said she got my Melty Hospital set. Did anyone get an SS and get theirs yet? She says she's shipping mine Friday, was wondering if anyone got theirs and how it looks/feels/fits in person

>>10273931
you moved to japan with no japanese, cant follow the instructions on a very simple app with multiple basic payment options and you also dont seem to have anyone in your real life who can sit you down and hold your hand while you press three buttons. you shouldnt be using mercari.

>>10273362
ask a japanese person already, yeesh

>>10274116

I've only ever seen them restock new things, like if it's sold out in preorder or it just came out and sold out immediately. There's stuff on Qutieland's website that they no longer sell (and haven't in a long time).

>>10273183
Is rape wrong?

>>10274130

Ugh even when they don't turn a coord into a costume they tend to attract itas who can't coord, like >>10274008.

But to answer your question -- the main difference is in the mindset and the priorities, creating different results.

For furries and itas, lolita being a fashion is somehow always lowest priority. The fursuit and animal ears come first, and "lolita fashion" is sometimes almost an afterthought. The animal ears thread is hung up on the shape of the ears and the fur, neither of which matters to fashion.

Since their attention is more on something else (whether it's catmaid, or their fursuit or whatever), they'll always cut corners and do lolita wrong. The outfit often ends up looking costumey because from the start the person never treated it as a fashion at all.


When it comes to wearing it as a fashion, the animal ears get lowest priority. In fact, the further you get from treating it as "animal ears" and treat them as "a fashion accessory", they get closer to being fashion. So brand ears are never made to be realistic, because their first priority isn't ""animal ears"", their first priority is "an accessory to match the dress". So the fur has to look rich and fluffy if it goes with a winter dress, or it's thin and made from cotton if it goes on a pair of summer wristcuffs. If it's a big poofy dress it might be attached to some bows to balance out the dress, or if it's a lightweight polyester dress the ears might be thinner and smaller to match. It's not decided by "do bunnies have fur", it's decided by "what goes with this dress".

It sounds kinda simple, but that's all the difference is. The itas and furries priorities their ears and end up slapping some weird costume together as their coord. The lolitas solely prioritise their outfits, and one of the accessories just happens to be animal-ear-shaped.

>>10273961
>thinking being on 4chan automatically means you have to be an asshole
found the newfag

>>10274100

Several brands make a colour run remover product purposely for removing colour transfer stains. You can give that a shot. Alternatively, oxy should be pretty safe to use, just keep an eye on it.

Last resort is to dismantle the dress, bleach the lace white, then resew it again... or you could carefully cut a bit of plastic, put it behind each bit of lace and painstaking use a tide pen.

For other girls: wash your clothes with colour catcher (sheets or liquid) to prevent this from happening.

What's a good Japanese webshop with weeb/fandom accessories that aren't cheap looking?

>>10274305

That's not how it's done, anon. If you want the good stuff, the collabs happen with an existing company that specialises in making the good shit, not the weeb shit.

First you find your fandom producer's twitter (eg- Capcom or Square or Konami or whatever). Then hang around until they finally announce a collab with whatever company they hooked up with.

Or you could hang around amiami, animate, or Supergroupies, but I find the quality of their weeb accessories to be somewhat hit or miss.

Does Wunderwelt or Closet Child have listings for lots like how Lacemarket does? Or what Japanese keywords should I use on Fril / Mercari?

Not a reseller, but I prefer lots as someone who's still relatively new and could use more options for coording.

No reply in the taobao thread so I'll ask here. How long does it take for Antaina to respond to emails? I emailed them last week about buying some shoes and they haven't responded.

>>10274248
kinda yea

>>10274314
I don’t think I’ve seen any on their sites but Wunderwelt has an account on lacemarket where they sell lots for clothes and accessories. It’s just that the stuff is not in great condition.

>>10274314
I've seen quite some lot listings for Axes Femme stuff on closetchild, but not for real lolita brands unfortunately.

Which Japanese shops do collabs really often? I only know Uniqlo and Wego/wc always have collab stuff in stock.

>>10274313
No offense but this answer is useless. There are shops that always have weeb stuff/fandom stuff in stock, I just don't know many of them.

>>10274448

>Or you could hang around amiami, animate, or Supergroupies

>>10274448
They literally gave you a perfect answer.

>>10274448
Are you retarded?

Is there a human equivalent of the big feather headpiece on the horses in AP's Guardian Unicorn print? Googling around the only feather headpieces I could find were Native American-looking ones and 1920s hairband style, nothing with a big feather in the center.

>>10273746
(its actually an index not a database)

>>10274725
Do you mean something like those vintage feather fascinators?

>>10274725
>>10274729
https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/587438810/lisali-1920s-headpiece-flapper-headband or something like this idk

>>10274725
Other than showgirls in Los Vegas, the only elegant feather headdresses I can think of are turbans with feathers from the 1800s.

Are there any jfashion brands out there that make preppy men's clothing? My boyfriend expressed an interest to try jfashion with me, but it occurred to me that I didn't know any men's brands! I want to find him some nice fall/winter cardigans and sweaters.

What is the name of tights that look weathered/yellowed/old-timey? I keep trying to look up them but i cannot find anything.

What types of shoe are best/more traditional for Gothic Lolita vs Classic?

>>10275911
Tried antique?

>>10275808

This is the jfash board, anon. You'd have better luck if you actually know which exact jfash you want him to get into.... or try /fa/ since they're just general fashion.

>>10277084

If I had to think of an iconic gothic shoe, it's the platforms. Not necessarily these ones, Moitie also did their own platforms, and there was a time when everybody seemed to be wearing Yosuke platforms in different designs.

That being said, the exact shoes will vary a lot with your coord. If you're going for a more toned down look then maybe platforms are a bit too much. If you're doing more of a punk-gothic kinda look then maybe you'd want something more edgy than platform shoes. It's very hard to say "these shoes will go with all gothic" without having seen exactly what your coord looks like.

>>10274448
Not the anon, but your quick to call someone useless when, no offense, you probably didn't bother to look into the shops mentioned and wanted to be spoon fed to the extreme.

I love Supergroupies, for example, and have bags and shoes from them that are great quality. And yes, you can get things from the other shops that were mentioned, amiami and animate. I have purchased parkas, shirts, jewelry, and cardigans from amiami.

And yeah, you do sort of just have to wait until a collab is announced or products go up for sale for a limited time. I have a lot of Sailor Moon items from Q-Pot, GU, Princess One Spoon, and Gracegift (Taiwan brand) that I found through announcements. And all the things I bought on amiami were found by browsing there frequently.

If you want official, high quality items from Japanese shops they will likely come from a collab and these are limited time sort of things. Your best bet is looking at Mercari and Fril for used items from past collabs.

>>10273183
Is CDJapan the best place to get all the otome no sewing books intact with patterns if price isn't an issue and I just want all of them? I also don't mind purchasing the collection books and the magazines even if some of the patterns overlap.

>>10277200
I don't know if other shops are better but I've bought all of my Otome no Sewing books from them. Been shopping with them for many years, the prices for the magazines/books are fair and decent shipping options. They've never failed me. Well packaged too, nothing ever arrived damaged.

>>10277162
Thank you for taking the time to answer, I appreciate it!

I've definitely noticed platforms being super popular in gothic coords, would you say there are any other types of shoes that are more gothic-specific or gothic-appropriate? For example, I know the pic is more Classic in style (T-strap + pearl + rose detailing) - but could it work for a Gothic coord as well (black + small platform), or does it just read too Classic? I'm still pretty new to lolita, and am trying to focus on putting together a small but cohesive wardrobe for the styles I like, which is dark Classic and Gothic.

>>10277210
This is definitely the kind of shoe that will work with both styles. It's not like there's a hard line between dark classic and gothic, you can have elements of both in the same coord.

Is it bad to auction off a dress you know is someone's DD (cause they keep posting it in the DD thread) instead of giving them dibs? I prefer giving everyone a fair chance but I also feel kinda guilty for some reason.

>>10277256
are you friends with them?

>>10277256
It would be nice to email them first but you have no obligation to do so. Maybe it's somebody else's DD and they don't post in the thread, better to auction

>>10277265
Agreed. Just because someone isn't vocal about it, doesn't mean it isn't someone else's DD.

If they aren't your friend then I wouldn't give them dibs.

>>10277256
Look at it this way, if you set it to auction then whoever is willing to bid the highest probably really wants the item.

Is there anywhere I can buy some sort of shoes strap extenders? I bought shoes from angelic imprint and unfortunately the straps don't close.

>>10277264
>>10277265
>>10277267
No, I don't know them from online comms or personally, just seen them post in the DD thread. I figured it might also be someone else's DD and they want a chance at this dress too. I'll be posting in the BST with a link to my auctions once I listed them, but I guess I could drop them an email when I list the dress as a heads up?

>>10277276
That sounds like a good solution, you don't need to sell it to them outright but it would be very kind of you to let them know in case they want to bid

>>10277268
I haven't looked at it like that, you're right. I'll list it for a fair price and see where it goes from there.

>>10277269
Try punching an extra hole

Anyone know where to get the wristcuffs?

>>10273183
How could we make sweet lolita shoes look more like it aligns in quality with the rest of the coord? What would you suggest if you could create shoes?

>>10277493
That's a blouse.

>>10277596
Which one?

>>10277493
>>10277602
The woman in your photo is wearing a grey dress with a white blouse under it. Those are not wristcuffs.

>>10277608
I got that. What brand is the blouse?

>>10277722
We are not here to hold your gd hand. Look it up yourself.

>>10277722
Might be best to ask people for a blouse with a similar cuff instead of which brand this is from, because there is literally nothing else to go by from this image.

Have you tried going on lolibrary and searching for blouses with the long sleeve feature to see if you find anything with similar sleeves?

>>10277276
oh man, I hope it's one of mine. pleeeeease

not exactly jfashion but does anyone know any stores like e-medistore.com that sell piercings? preferably a bit more affordable since some pieces on there run for $40 and i’m broke. taobao sellers are fine too.

>>10277791
Why not just buy from bodyartforms? Their budget jewellery is pretty budget, and it saves shipping if you're US based.

How to order from Victorian Maiden? Do you need a shopping service?

>>10274130
Cat ears even had a spot in normie fashion for a minute. Open your mind, confusedfriend.

>>10277983
Honestly.. I'm glad. I am tayrt and I have a secret love for animal ears but I was too embarrassed to wear my lace Romantic Cat ears. I will wear them with pride!

Do those comb bows work with abundant curly hair? About 2C/3A hair.

How come most of the decent Lolita items from Bodyline are from years in the past? Shouldn't brands improve as they age, not get worse?

>>10278149

These things, right? They work by tying your hair (braid, ponytail, half up, all up, curly, straight. whatever. Just tie your hair.)

Then slip the comb part right into the hair tie. The elastic holds the comb in place, and you can stick another hairpin in if you want.

>>10278151
Well, hopefully they will be taking a step in the right direction now that they have new management and not some dude looking for his bride to be.

They did recently do that survey that asked people what they wanted.

>>10278151

No one asked for this history but whatever.

Bodyline has a checkered past that makes the poorlitas ree out of shame, "their" brand started out as a sex costume shop that only started selling lolita to make money, has history of replicas, model search and other junk. People still buy it for convenience but poorlitas take offence anyway.

At some point it hired someone who can actually illustrate, which was when most of the popular dresses got churned out. At the same time it also tried to make use of reverse snobbery to make those reeing poorlitas worship Bodyline into being a "real" brand the same way brandwhores worship "burando", throwing money at dresses.

The actual result of which was that the dresses didn't even improve in quality but they started rollercoastering in pricing, going as high as $120 for a jsk (which is why you still see some folks trying to sell a "popular" dress for >$100 ), and then a sale would bring prices back below $100.

It's not sustainable, because a blouse you were eyeing for $60 "now" could go on sale and be $60, or $10 with free shipping, so basically it stripped its own cheapo customer base and chased them to taobao, where at least a $60 blouse is indeed $60, no lie, no marketing, no Mr Yan pillow shit.

Then that one youtuber proceeded to roast Mr Yan's model search, followed by whoever was working the hype machine seemed to have left, along with the designer, and after that there's nobody else left at Bodyline who could be arsed to do anything. Dresses then returned to their proper value of being "cheap" and Bodyline went back to selling cheap stuff rather than pulling funky shit.


So pretty much, at the time when it was pumping out "decent" dresses, Bodyline actually sucked your grandma's balls with stunts that weren't sustainable. No surprise that they couldn't keep it up.

I'd rather new management just be level-headed instead of inventive, and gulls not fall for anymore of that "Bodyline and proud" shtick.

>>10278159
Oh! Geez I thought you were supposed to just stick them in your hair like barettes.

>>10278199
Thanks for the history lesson, anon. A cautionary tale in poor management.

Is Bunny House good quality? They have good reviews on Etsy, but Etsy isn't exactly a bastion of good taste.

I want some custom-sized blouses, but I've had bad luck with taobao brands. I have shitty eyesight and it's very hard for me to pick out details like fabric quality or janky stitching on a computer monitor.

Why is it bad to do fetish pics in lolita? Like, you know very soft ones, like ahegao, sock fetish, chockers and leash, etc.

I mean anything or anyone can be a fetish but i never seen medics or teachers speaking against medical or teacher fetishes for example.

Its just a style, why are you so angry about others having fun? Its not even lewd!

Ok, i get that style is asexual but it's not about sex its about being silly and submissive for someone who cares about you, so you want to make him little bit happy. Even if that someone is bunch of followers.

I think you are just mean and afraid of breaking this old-fashioned good victorian girl image.

>>10278199
>Reeeeee
I'm not a poorlita but I can't bring myself to move on to other brands. My wardrobe is 50 percent BL at the moment, rest is various burando and Taobao. Still my most worn and loved pieces are Bodyline ones. I find the quality and construction more suitable for dailywear compared to brand. Taobao is just shit though.

>>10278493
I'm a teacher and I think teacher fetishes are creepy af. Just sayin

>>10278493
Idk, maybe because we aren't a bunch of costhots eager to impress scrotes with sissy fetishes? Why don't you go harrass ddlg bitches, they want your attention.

What is the cheapest Japanese-brand sweet lolita that can be bought secondhand? Obviously not AP.

>>10278493
Fuck off you cumbrained scrote/ddlg slut handmaiden

>>10278220

It's a little less clear when you watch it in action.

The person requesting the body pillow is from cgl and started posing it everywhere, so other people started doing it "for teh lulz" as well. I'd say the body pillow sold pretty well as a dumb meme.

Quite a lot of reverse snobs were bumping up Bodyline threads indicating they wanted the newest $120 dresses (nevermind that the quality was the same as the older, less popular $60 dresses), Bodyline was their love, it was their "thing" and they were willing to throw $120 for "every new release", I guess mimicking APfags. So I'd say they made quite a killing there too, when you consider the original true value of the dresses was even lower than $60 (some of these were sold for $30 later on) but they sold it at $120 with no change, nothing extra, just 300% extra profit for nothing more than poorfags reeing.

Even with Mr Yan holding "tea parties" where somehow every attendee is an ita, somehow became a hot topic "for teh lulz" and then there started being people saying they would buy Bodyline and purposely dress as itas for the next meetup, because you'd get group photos with Mr Yan, the "legendary" meme behind Bodyline.

For a while there sitting on the sidelines watching poorfags sidestep the argument over how a $120 Bodyline dress wasn't worth it by simply saying "I love Bodyline!", followed by the memers on the other side saying "for teh lulz", "no fun allowed". You'd wonder if Bodyline could indeed make a fortune on nothing but hot air.

But I guess they eventually ran out of steam, and by then they'd scared away all the cheapos and newbies who used to be their staple business. Still, I reckon they made a killing with their marketing tactic while it was in full swing. It just wasn't sustainable long term after the poorfags have drained their accounts and the memers move on to the next meme.

>>10278537

That's not how it works. The cheap stuff is when people no longer want it, and people don't want to buy it, so it's cheap.

What you're looking for is simply old, unwanted, unpopular, worn, maybe even damaged stuff (if you're good with stains and repairs you can easily buy damaged lots and fix them up). Regardless of brand.

In fact, AP being so old and has so many releases, they have a lot of weird ugly unloved shit. Sometimes you luck out and find a really ugly AP dress on Fril! that's dirt cheap.

>>10278546
>>10278199

Thanks for the insight anon. I wasn't aware Bodyline had done this in the past.

Where to find Gothic&Lolita Bible scans?

I was cleaning up my backup hard drives and found my stash of GLB scans, but they only go up to issue 39. I have done a quick search through the sites I used to find them on and more recent ones that were suggested by Google, but so far I have only been able to find like three issues, I was surprised because I thought these would be the easier ones to find, since they're relatively recent, but maybe I am doing something wrong. Real life caught up with me and I've been drifting away from lolita for a few years now, but I still feel really nostalgic over it and would love to keep these as a memory. Can you seagulls help me out?

>>10278493
>Ok, i get that style is asexual but it's not about sex its about being silly and submissive for someone who cares about you, so you want to make him little bit happy. Even if that someone is bunch of followers.

bullshit. Not all of us even post online. Most lolitas just wear it out for OURSELVES. My husband doesn't even prefer it, he likes other styles better on me but I love wearing it so I wear it.

We're against it because people already act like it's a sex thing (which they don't for doctors or teachers) and we don't want that association.

What's Halloween Haus event is about?

>>10278523
>>10278538

I never sayed i do ddlg pics.

>>10278549
AS far as I can tell, yes it does work like that?? The lowest prices for AP jsks (any) on Lacemarket is still over $100. I noticed all the BTSSB jsks are generally cheaper on there than AP. So what are the brands that go for even cheaper than that?

>>10279031
stupid and poor, what a sad combination

>>10279034
This is not helpful, thanks. I've seen several lolitas on Youtube note that BTSSB secondhand goes for cheaper than AP, so it's not like I'm the only one who noticed.

>>10279044
it does! and everything >>10278549 said was correct, if you haven't found AP for $50 you're not trying hard enough

>>10279066
I don't want to look through Japanese websites or use a SS. Just buy from Lacemarket. So yeah still not helpful.

>>10279070
There was an AP jsk that just sold for $50 on lacemarket...

>>10279080
A non-print jsk, whoop-de-doo. Jesus I guess I am not going to get any actual help here. I know for sure BTSSB and IW sell for less secondhand than AP and I just wanted to know what other Japanese brands are the same way. Thanks for all the non-help to an extremely simple question, folks.

>>10279085
Being a non print doesn’t make it not AP.

>>10279085
Metamorphose tends to go pretty cheap. But anons >>10278549 advice was correct, its the popularity of pieces that determines how much they go for not necessarily the brand name...

>I know for sure BTSSB and IW sell for less secondhand than AP

If you know this "for sure" because some youtuber told you so why did you bother asking? Using filters on lacemarket would have solved this for you without you needing to respond to anons like a catty newfag.

Also there's nothing wrong with non-prints, if you want prints be prepared to pay a above $50 unless its super unpopular.

>>10279091
Literally who cares about non print AP? The prints are what make them popular and expensive in the first place.

>>10279094
I know for sure from watching LM for a long time in addition to long time lolitas confirming it. >>10279066 knows what I'm talking about at least.

>why did you bother asking
Because I'm not familiar with that many brands yet.

>like a catty newfag
This is literally a thread for newer people to ask stupid questions and get helpful answers. Not people going "no ur wrong" to a fact confirmed by the most popular and well known sweet lolitas.

>>10279099
>The prints are what make them popular and expensive
ie brand has nothing to do with price...

>>10279099
Jesus. Yes, IW, BTSSB and meta are generally cheaper because people don't like their prints as much. IW is primarily a classic brand and tends to make sweet-ish prints at best. Meta's cheap, unpopular prints tend to be pretty far away from AP style sweet prints. BTSSB prints still aren't usually cheap-cheap unless either the prints or the cuts are terrible. Any other brands that DO make cheap AP-style prints are going to be shitty taobao brands. You're not going to get the kind of Japanese brand printed sweet lolita you seem to want without actually doing the work (using japanese websites with an ss) OR paying the price. You also didn't even mention prints in your original question - plenty of people aren't newfag trendhoppers and actually DO care about nonprint AP, you know.

>>10279099
Ok so you've been watching lacemarket for a long time but it never occured to you to look up other sweet lolita brands?

I offered you another brand to search and was merely trying to point out that you were being quite rude when other anons were giving good advice.

> a fact confirmed by the most popular and well known sweet lolitas
So you mean e-famous lolitas... aha because they're advice is 100% correct 100% of the time. Which is not to say that people here are any better but geez anon chill out, original anon couldn't have answered your question better.

Is there a place that I can find really close-up pictures of a print's pattern like pic related? I'd like to make a collection of potential wallpapers.

>>10279166
I've found the tumblr blog lolitaprints, but it doesn't have all that many. Still searching for more.

What could a basic set of accessories for a beginner lolita look like? I've already managed to get a basic set of everything you need for coords, but still lack accessories to really pull the look together.

I'm into sweet and mostly own black main pieces as of now.

>>10279099
>Literally who cares about non print AP? The prints are what make them popular and expensive in the first place.
>Because I'm not familiar with that many brands yet.

You can't make a claim for the first until you have the historical knowledge to not have to say the second. Stop trying to learn about fashion from people who wear it as a costume, start reading blogs from people who wear it as a fashion, and you'll have a better time.

>>10279173

There's no standard. Most of it depends on your actual coord. For eg:
- low neckline you'd want a choker to fill empty neck space
- plain front, you'd want a bigger necklace to be a focal point
- short sleeves and empty wrists, bracelets will add interest
- you'll want to echo the print at least, eg teddy bear print with teddy bear necklace, or at least don't put a cookie necklace with a mermaid print, it looks odd and makes no sense.

The closest you can get is most brands do "generic" motifs such as bows, roses, crowns, hearts, stars -- these appear on a lot of lolita things so you can usually wear them with a lot of different prints. You can grab a few of these to spice up your coords with, but there is no formula -- you still need to look at the dresses and judge whether it needs a choker, a necklace, a bracelet, or if it's too much, or if the colours don't match, etc.

Best casual, low-poof bell petti?

>>10279173
Pearl bracelets and a pearl necklace is a good place to start. Pearls don't go with absolutely everything, but they do go with a lot of things.

If the dress you get has pearls, make sure the color of your pearl accessories matches the ones on your dress. For instance, my Milky-chan Applique JSK in sax has pink pearls, so I made pearl bracelets in that same shade.

White wristcuffs with detachable bows are a great first wrist accessory as well. You can buy ribbon and make more bows that coordinate with the color of the dress you are wearing that day.

As a beginner you'll likely start with a white blouse, so just changing the bows to match your dress will save some money since you won't need to buy new wristcuffs every time.

For rings, as a sweet lolita I would recommend bows. Get bow shaped rings in the colorways you will be using and it will match plenty. Heart shape bags are a good staple for sweet lolita as well.

If you are trying to be more economical and have things that will match a lot of your wardrobe, I would start on specific themes like cats, shells, etc for your coords when you have a good amount of versatile jewlery and bags first.

Does anyone have a tutorial for how to remove lace on a collar? There’s the collar and then there is a second layer of fabric (lace) not attached to the collar but using that same seam if that makes sense. I don’t resell my dresses so I’m not concerned about it losing value. I just don’t know where to start here.

>>10277791
bodyartforms is the best for piercing jewelry

>>10279188

Another lolita skirt. cotton, or at least something with more body than polyester.

>>10279460

Take a pic and post it to one of the sewing threads, they can give you a more accurate answer.

If it's sewn into a seam and you don't want to redo it, generally a very sharp pair of pointy scissors (embroidery scisor for eg) to snip it off, along with tweezers to pull out loose threads and poke un-loose threads back into the seam work better for removing the lace. You do destroy the lace this way, and it's still a lot of fiddling, so be sure before you start that's what you want to do.

>>10279520
Interesting idea, I guess I'll give it a shot.

>>10278214
that anon doesn't know what they're talking about. I'd imagine having some texture in your hair would actually hold them in better. just find a YouTube video or something for "how to wear hair combs". I don't know how to explain it well but you push it halfway into your hair and then flip/twist it around and push it the rest of the way in

If a branch of closetchild posts on Twitter that they have something available, but it isn't in the online store, would it be possible to message them for international shipping?

>>10279612
No. It’s stuff they have in their physical store. Get a SS

What killed Harajuku?

>>10279912
fast fashion

>>10279912
Tourists, normies in general who feel the need to harrass people and treat them like objects because they are dressed in wierd clothes. I'd also imagine that some of the teens who got dressed up eventually became normies.

>>10279912
also maybe the internet. people don't need to go hang out physically somewhere to try to meet people. I'm old and when I was a teen there was no real internet and we'd all congregate in a certain part of town and cruise around and talk to people and make plans for partying. Now we just text each other or scroll around facebook to find something to do.

>>10279912
The teens grew up. Same thing that happens with goths

Does anyone know where I can still buy one of these tops? I know it's such an old thing now, but I've been meaning to buy one forever and kept putting it off.

>>10279912
Many things - a combination of other replies, rent in the area going up, the olympics, fashion trends changing - but I still see people dressed up like this in Harajuku and other parts of Japan. I think the newer group of it-kids are just into the darker goth-y look or the vintage resale look instead of super-rainbow look we grew up seeing.

I have Shirring Princess JSK but now I'm tempted to buy Babydoll JSK. Since they are similar designs and I'm only interested in one colorway I don't want to keep them both. I can't decide if getting Babydoll and selling Shirring Princess is too much work or is it worth it. I know this is subjective but I'm interested in hearing opinions.

>>10279031
Here are some sweet brand pieces with prints on LM under $100
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/metamorhose-berry-stripe-skirt-4c4ee9ef-351e-43d5-82a2-f9e7106b237a
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/urgent-sale-metamorphose-happy-bell-ribbon-pinafore-jsk
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/metamorphose-flower-print-princess-jsk
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/innocent-world-berangere-rose-jsk-pink-2015-release
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/innocent-world-candy-poodle-skirt-beige-x-blue
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/innocent-world-tulip-pink-op
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/sugar-cake-innocent-world-op
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/btssb-merry-sweet-castle-heart-jsk-minor-damage
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/btssb-re-ci-pe-for-the-endless-dream-shirly-jsk-ivory
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/btssb-rose-cross-print-one-piece-19399532-b5b6-4cad-b98b-f23cf2538a38
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/btssb-alice-in-fun-fair-op-pink
I've even included different cuts and different styles of sweet... But wait, you prefer AP?
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/angelic-pretty-whipped-magic-chest-ribbon-jsk-kc
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/sweet-jam-jsk-angelic-pretty
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/angelic-pretty-magical-etoile-skirt-in-sax-90d69f21-d3a3-4e22-96fb-709339afb3b7
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/ap-dreamy-dollhouse-skirt-pink-barette
Good deals do appear, you just have to keep a watchful eye on LM's front page and snap them up before anyone else does. Sounds like you'd do well from using the Advanced Search function on LM and setting up some email alerts. This all took me less than ten minutes to find btw.

>>10280141
Nayrt but you're the hero we need, anon. High-effort answers to dumb questions.

what terms or phrases should I search for when looking for cool face masks? I'm not too keen on the cute fabric masks.

>>10280131
Sell shirring princess. It ain't as cute as babydoll.

>>10279085
Extremely rude. Know your place, newfriend.

>>10278700
It's not a lolita event it's a personal party held by a lolita which includes a few of her friends that aren't lolita. As far as what it's "about" it's just a halloween themed house party obviously.

>>10280350
>rude
Do you know where you are?

>>10280454
Do you? This is the thread where people ask to be spoonfed. It's expected that they're nice.

>>10280348
Thanks anon. I think imma do it.

>>10280454
Being rude without cause is weird even here anon. Only newfags think everyone on cgl just writes compleatly rude shit for absolutely no reason.

>>10280478
>>10280482
You share this site with actual Nazis and murderers, folks. Time to wake up.

>>10280538
I'm possibly falling for bait, but there are nazis and murderers on Facebook too

>>10280538
Which has literally nothing to do with anything.

>>10280555
It has to do with this not being a happy rainbow filled website with polite people.

>>10280573
generally when you're asking for wisdom or help, being an entitled cunt about it is going to ensure everyone will hate you and not want to assist you at all. It's more beneficial to be courteous.


Cunt.

>>10273183
I feel lifestyle lolitas are actually the biggest posers or is it just me?

>>10280666
Depends what you mean by lifestyle, anon. What do you mean?

>>10280348
Hard disagree, baby doll is the flavour of the month but shirring princess is more flattering on more people

>>10280151
Thanks, anon! But I feel like I should repeat, this was not high effort at all. Took me a little over ten minutes using the advanced search function on LM. The anon who is struggling to find prints could have done it herself too!

>>10280131
Babydoll is more expensive and will go for more

>>10280680
I'm not planning to sell, ever, unless it's extremely unflattering on me.

>>10280688
That's ok just was saying in case you planned to finance your purchase by selling Shirring Princess. I agree with >>10280348

>>10280695
Oh, no, I have money to keep both I just feel like it'd be a waste to keep 2 dresses in similar designs. Thanks!

Was Dream Bear supposed to be Japan exclusive or will it eventually get a US/international release?

>>10280666
I feel like lifestylers are people who never formed their own identity beyond trends. Just call it what it is - you like certain aesthetics. 'lifestyle Lolita' is such a gatekeepy, strange term.

>>10280668 I mean this >>10280775
It's just clothes. It's fine to wear something else that still matches your style. I feel they're just teenagers, and I'm someone who loves brands who design lolita aesthetic. I really hope it all changes tbf.

Even when I know the exact name, brand, and colours of something, I still can't find the stock photo though Google. Can someone recommend a better search engine?

>>10280817
Lolibrary.org for anything before 2019.

Not sure where else to ask, but does anyone know what these are called? I'm wanting my own but the only ones I get are the American versions that aren't as thick and much more slim.

Not sure where else to ask, but does anyone know what these are called? I'm wanting my own but the only ones I get are the American versions that aren't as thick and much more slim.

>>10280666
Agreed

>>10280666
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with being lifestyle lolita. The problem arises for me if they judge others who aren't for not wearing it everyday. but otherwise, they're just passionate about their fashion, nothing poser about that imo

>>10281086
Typing in "wool coat with toggles" gives me plenty of results.

>>10281086
Duffle coats?

How was Kei Con? Did anyone here go?

Thinking about going if they do it again in 2020.

>>10281093
I don't judge others for not wearing it everyday but if they only wear it to cons and meets I kinda lump them with "lolitas at heart". It also gives me creeps when people call lolita a "collecting hobby".

>>10280775
>>10280794
When I first got into lolita back when I was a teen I thought I had to be a 'lifestyler' because I really loved the aesthetic but honestly at this point I don't even know what that means. I've heard there are girls who treat the fashion like pretty princess dressup roleplay or whatever and they like to be surrounded by cute things. They talk about 'lolita hobbies' which basically boils down to collecting frilly/weeb shit and embroidery because Momoko. I'm not sure if they really exist outside of the internet bubble though because I'm not very active in my local comm.

I'm about 3-4 years into building a daily wardrobe and I'm at a point where I'm happy with it now but I definitely don't wear the traditional full lolita coord everyday. Calling it a 'lifestyle' sounds pretentious and dead boring. I guess it's weird to talk to girls who wear it like a once every con costume and wear jeans every other day, but my lolita clothes are just my clothes, I don't think it's fair to look down on them because they wear different stuff. I like alternative fashion and putting together different looks, If my closet wasn't filled with lolita it'd be filled with other outlandish shit. Some girls either don't have the time/money/circumstances to build a wardrobe or they simply aren't super into dressing up, so they wear it for meets and cons. It's weird to get defensive and gatekeepy about it the way some 'lifestylers' do.

>>10280666
I wear lolita whenever I leave the house (mostly casual unless I’m meeting with other lolitas in which I’ll dress up more). I’ve never really referred to myself as a “lifestyle lolita” though because to me it’s just the clothes I like to wear, not some alternate lolita world I live in. Obviously I enjoy other hobbies and things unrelated to lolita as well though

>>10281205
Same. I'm still me in the clothes. I do the stuff I normally like to do.

It's like those vampire goths who literally want to drink blood and summon Satan.

>>10281149
Agreed. I also hate how some people who don't wear lolita regularly will put on a fake princess act whenever they go to meets. I'm not going to judge you for not being a lifestyler, but don't treat lolita like a costume.

>>10281161
in my opinion (as someone who considers themselves a life styler) there are no such things as "lolita hobbies" do what you like, and like what you wear. I just live my gremlin life, and do what I would do before lolita.

>>10280666
you sound jealous desu

>>10281205
Me too, I wear lolita whenever I go out (except for work) and they are just clothes in my eyes.

I suppose you can say my room decor leans towards the "sweet lolita aesthetic" but I liked things like Sanrio and white furniture before I got into the fashion, so it's not like I'm doing it with that purpose in mind.

Most of my hobbies aren't really lolita related. I'm not going to change who I am for clothes and I dislike people who wear lolita and put on an act.

Can't stand people who act cutesy and change their voice. We're not freaking characters.

>>10281300

I think because so many of us like cute things (at least with sweet) some newer people feel obligated to make everything cutesy and forget that that has nothing directly to do with lolita and is just a common aesthetic preference because lolita is another one of those cute things.

I'm the same where I act the same as always in lolita or any other clothes and also have very cute decor at home but that doesn't mean I stop my hobbies like building PCBs and digital fabrication just cause they're not "kawaii" enough

Where do I find a black blouse with wide sleeves to fit a gothic coord?

>>10281368
atelier pierrot?

>>10273183
Does anyone have experience ordering from Angelic Pretty's Japanese site?

>>10281368
taobao resellers

>>10281378
Get a tenso, don’t use google translate

>>10281368
AtePi. Also moitie mens size is comfy.
>tfw woman with muscular tendencies

>>10281149
Lolitas at heart don't wear lolita at all. Why lump them in with actual lolitas?

Im looking for blue shoes for a punk coord. Does anyone know where I can find some suitable ones?

Does anyone know the name of this Milk shirt?

Are there any SS that order during EST day hours (opposite of JST) or even 24/7?
And that accept orders for fril.

>>10273183
What does "cof" mean?

>>10281696
no

>>10281698
closet of frills

a facebook group dedicated to sharing your coords you wore recently

>>10281700
Bummer. I'm gonna be eyeing my DD all day I guess.

>>10281704

Thanks for the kindly reply, anon!

What are some actual good online stores for men's gothic or EGL adjacent clothing that isnt cheap and costumey like on Amazon?

I wear mostly sweet and I am trying to dress my SO. Im getting him a shirt and coat from F+F and taobao accessories but I want actually decent pants and shoes made for western men sizing and ones he can wear more often. I can't tell which stores online sell overpriced costumey goth trash and what's actually legit good stuff.

What's the best way to get old armpit stains out of an OP?

>>10281732
Soak it in stain remover for a couple of hours.

>>10281726
Seconding this, and does anyone know how well F+F custom sizing works? I noticed that their coats and shirts have tapered waist but my bf is straight up and down. If I size up to accomodate his waist size his chest and shoulders will drown. Would F+F be able to adjust sizes correctly if I chose custom made option?

>>10281750
It's hit and miss. I think they outsource to multiple seamstresses for custom orders which is why the quality is so variable.

Anyone had a problem with these antaina shoes running unusually small? I usually take a size 43, which fit me perfectly on my other 2 antaina shoes. For those however they were so small that only putting them on hurted. It was still written "43" on the sole.
I've sold them since, but i wonder if it was a mistake from them, and buy the same size, hoping they won't fuck up, or that i should take a size up?
My other option is cotton candy feet

I've seen people talking about wearing "dance tights" under ankle socks to make the legs look better. What does that mean? I've googled and the only thing I've found are solid coloured tights or nylons, but apparently dance tights are different from nylons???

>>10282262
the only thing I heard is that you don't have to wear underwear with dance tights

>>10282262
Dance tights are opaque, sturdier and they don't have a line at the top of the thigh. For lolita, it really doesn't matter since your skirt will always hide the line.

>>10282262
I don’t really see dance tights making a difference in lolita. Regular nylons are good enough since they’ll still hide any blemishes and give your socks something to grip on so they won’t slide down as easily. Dance tights are better for cosplay when people really need to look blemish-free and have the tights contour their legs.

>>10282308
siiiick youre the best, I'll just wear nylons since I had to buy a bunch for my job

What are the best anime cons with lolita fashion programming in the US/Canada?

>>10281300
You sound pretty closed-minded desu. So what if someone changes her voice a bit? Is it hurting your feelings? She is making her voice sound the way she wants it to sound, it's like an extension of her fashion and a way of self-expression. For a lot of people, lolita is about becoming your ideal version of a person. The best you can be according to your own standards, not someone else's standards. What you decided is the cutest sound of your voice, without influences of normie television and how other people want you to talk.

>>10281726
h.Naoto does custom sizing

>>10281300
What if "Acting cutest" is just the person's personality...? That's how I act basically all the time, except at work where I'm required to repress it

>>10281726
h.Naoto does custom sizing and their fabrics are super nice

>>10282383
Then it's not acting, is it....

>>10282381
If it sounds close minded I don't really care. I just don't understand why someone would feel the need to change their personality and tone of voice for the sake of fashion. I wear lolita regularly and don't see the point of trying to be different when I'm going to the grocery store in lolita vs in jeans and a shirt.

Some people take it a bit too extremely and it seems like they are creating a "lolita persona". The idea that wearing lolita makes you a "character" of some sort bothers me. Because it's not a costume.

I suppose it's for the reason you mentioned of wanting to be your ideal self in the fashion, but unless you're like >>10282383 and that's just the way you are all the time, why would you want to put on an act? Why would this personality be something sought after for you?

Oh well, maybe I'm just a bitter 27 year old who doesn't know how to have fun.

>>10282381
Lolitas at heart are delusional

>>10281543
It’s by MILKBOY. Just search for 襟付きTシャツ or 襟付きカットソー and eventually you’ll find one.

>>10282371
Tekko, AWA, okashi, katsu-kinda. Most cons are pretty bad at it. Paradiso exists if you want one that's just fashion

>>10282076

It's more accurate if you tell them the length and width of your foot and ask what size you should take, as opposed to "size", which can sometimes be arbitrary, some of their shoes are long enough but narrow and some are wider.

Where can I find good quality, durable, leather (preferably) mary janes?

>>10282640
What's your budget?

What shirt is Billie Eilish wearing in this picture? I know it's by a Japanese artist, but I can't remember their name for the life of me.

I'll be working at a maid cafe at a con soon, any ideas for where to go for a maid outfit that's actually nice and lolita-esque and not cheap slutty neko shit? It does need to be black and white, Thanks

>>10279187
>>10279199

Thanks for your advice anons! I'll try my best and see what I can get.

>>10282381
It's shit like this that encourages ageplayers into the community

>>10282671
Milky Ange

How much do i need to add to my body measurements to get my coat size? I want to wear warm layer underneath, like sweater or something.

Will +10cm (~4'') be ok? Or is it too much/little?

Which one is superior Holy Lantern color/cut?

>>10284484
It depends on personal taste, but for anyone with any boobs, the zipper JSK is by far the most flattering and it has maintained a better resale value in comparison with the high-waist JSKs.

>>10284489
Zipper cut is really large though, so beware if you are skinny because it will fit you like a garbage bag. Had to sell mine after losing weight. I think if you're skinny the OP is better than the high waist JSK though.

>>10284484
zipper cut or the OP with the bow if you're skinny is the cutest

>>10284484
if you're under 5'4/under 140 lbs - OP
if you're above - the JSK

What sorts of hand/bracelet/wrist accessories would generally go with Gothic coords? Like I know wrist cuffs exist, but does anyone have examples of cute bracelets that fit the aesthetic?

>>10285026
Off the top of my head, black pearl bracelets, pearl bracelets in the color that's in your coord, bracelets with cross/gothic motifs. Gothic can get away with being slightly more understated than, say, pastel vomit sweet. I find it fairly easy to find stuff that works for it in some normie stores. Not everything will work, but you can get lucky. Sorry for no pics, I'm afk.

>>10284490
It isn’t large, it’s just cut for someone with breasts. It always looks baggy on the Ana chans but great on people with a good bust to waist ratio

>>10282527
>>10283540
I'm talking about women who wear lolita

>>10282665
Ningen allergy maybe?

>>10285033
Right. Women who are ageplayers.

Does anyone know what time zone this release is taking place in? Is it midnight or noon? I’m on US eastern time zone but I’m having trouble figuring out what time this release would be for me. Dumb question I know... but any help would be appreciated :3

UK anons, how much do you usually spend on customs when paying for a full price brando dress? This will be my first time buying one straight from angelic pretty without it being on sale, so I don't know if I should just use my tenso address, or go through a shopping service that can lower the parcel price for me (the dress is ¥34,800)

>>10285266
Take the combined price of shipping and the item, Find 20%(tax) and 12%(duty) of that amount. Add that all together. Add another £12 that parcelforce will steal from you. It's disgusting.

>>10285091
Japan time noon.

>>10285266
Lower the parcel price. It's stupid ridiculous amounts otherwise, basically expect to pay another 1/3-1/2 of the purchase price because they apply the fucking tax to the shipping cost as well. Even if the shopping service charges you 10% to mark it down, marking at a 1/4 to 1/5 of the value and shipping it tracked so you underpay customs ends up being worth it.

>>10285313
In Germany they want to see Paypal invoices and dont care about the value on the parcel. Just keep that in mind.
Its also considered tax evasion here, becareful anon.

>>10285556
I live in Germany and that's only happened to me once in over 10 years of buying internationally. I just changed the price on the PayPal invoice before showing it. Also the only thing that happens if they find you out, is that you have to pay the tax anyway. It's not like they will charge you with a crime lol.

>>10273183
should you hand-wash all brand? Or is it okay to dry clean them

I'm doing a secret santa with my cosplay friends and I'm wondering which Japanese shop has stuff that could be gifts for around 5-10 dollar each.

>>10285598

Daiso

>>10285619
They have a webshop? Isn't that the same stuff I can get at poundland?

>>10285621

Sorry anon, you requested Japanese shop rather than online. I don't even know which country you're from, I mean the whole of Rakuten is online for you to chose from but the shipping is definitely gonna cost more than $5 probably.

>>10285598
Idk about Webshops but maybe you could buy some Japanese candy?

>>10285562

Check the label and look up the washing symbols.

Hand washing and machine washing both use water. Certain fabric such as velvet, flocked fabric, specialty fabric, certain finishes, some trim tend to dissolve or break down with prolonged soaking in water. So those you definitely want to send to the dry-cleaners.

Dry-cleaning uses chemical solvents, either PCE (more common and harsher), or non-PCE (gentler, but harder to find a dry cleaner that can guarantee they don't use PCE solvents). Certain print method such as screen prints, metallic prints may or may not dissolve in PCE solvents. So those you either want to wash with water (hand/machine was), or find a dry-cleaner that uses non-PCE solvents.

For everything else, water washing is fine. A lot of dresses you can put into a laundry bag and wash it in the washing machine (after taking off every single detachable bit and checking the pockets and making sure there's nothing that will snag or scratch the dress). Use a colour catcher if you're washing red, wine, navy, or other dark or brightly saturated colours.

Also: never use the dryer with the heat on to dry your clothes, it results in horribly wrinkled messes and also runs the risk of melting anything poly if the heat is too high.

>>10285624
You shouldn't count shipping with secret santa gifts

>>10285630

They left out a lot of info. I thought they were doing some kind of local gift exchange and there's a lot of Daiso branches worldwide.

The US does have an online Daiso, if that helps them: https://www.daisojapan.com/

>>10285628
Thanks for the really detailed and helpful answer, I really appreciate it! Have a nice day

>>10285632
No offense but why would you give Daiso stuff to a local person in Japan? To me it sounded like he's looking for quirky Japanese stuff.

>>10285635
Where did they say anything about living in japan

>>10285635

Daiso has a bunch of branches around the world.

>>10285645
>>10285654
So why would you recommend it when someone is obviously looking for weeb gifts?

>>10285635

ayrt. What they mentioned was "Japanese shop" , "secret santa", "cosplay friends", low price tag.

Daiso stocks a bunch of different things in one place, so I figured it was easy to put together a bunch of different things for $5-10. Even if they didn't know what their friend was making next, it's easy to grab a variety pack of thread and then a needle-felting kit or basket-weaving kit to pad out the gift without having to be really specific about the colour of foam they're gifting.

If that's still a stumper, there's the stationery section and the bento section, both of which will stock cute things with a Japanese aesthetic. And the homewares section usually has some fake lacquerware if they're really gunning for that "Japanese" feel. So yeah, basically "Japanese", low price tag and generalised gift options in one shop.

And yes, branches around the world.

If you want quirky Japanese stuff from a store that's actually in Japan I'd say go to village vanguard (https://vvstore.jp/)) instead.

>>10285621
Daiso is WAY better quality than western dollar stores. Most of their products are made in Japan, their face masks are made in Korea etc

>>10285561
How do you do that?

>>10285658

What do you count as a weeb gift though? The packaging, etc will usually be half Japanese, half English, and you already know Daiso is a Japanese dollar store. Does that count as wannabe Japanese enough?

not fully j fashion related but how do you archive thread on cgl ? I keep getting good thread in my favorites deleted

>>10286002
You need to save the thread links from external archives like warosu or rebeccablacktech (last one only saves thumbnails after a certain age). On 4chan(nel) threads will be deleted and therefore content not accessible anymore.

>>10285598
>>10285621
I'm guessing your from the UK? (Since you mention poundland...) Shops that sell japanese items are fairly pricey here due to import taxes, so ebay and amazon are going to be your best bets. You could try artbox or Forbidden Planet although their mark-ups can be horrendous. Or just get stuff shipped from japan from rakuten, amiami or mandarake. Most cute things only cost a couple hundred yen. We don't have daiso in the UK yet.

What material blouses would look best with the new polyester dresses that brands are making?

I wanted to buy second hand Shanghai Doll from AP to gift a friend of mine, but I know nothing about AP and I can't find it anywhere . Has it been released already? Is it very rare? Would my best chance lie in Chinese second hand market?

>>10286015

This isn't much of a question, the variety with brand polyester dresses is so great you might as well have asked "what blouse goes with everything" since practically 80% of brand is already polyester, even including the heavy twill dresses or fancy jacquard dresses.

The "easy" choice (not "best", if you can only afford one blouse) is chiffon or lace, generally they're light enough to float with the lightest weight chiffon dresses, and then with heavier dresses they act as a contrasting lightweight fabric.

Honestly though this is kinda really limiting on yourself. I've done poly jsks with everything -- cutsews, cardis, knits, boleros, even turtlenecks, lace overdresses, etc. And if you wear chiffon blouses everywhere it's gonna be really hot in summer, at least switch out to more breathable cutsews for summer.

if I'm going to post reviews of some stuff I ordered, where should I do it? The taobao thread on here or the lolita reviews facebook group? not doing both because I don't wanna out myself lol

>>10285956
No, it does not count enough. Idk if you looked at what they sell but you can get it anywhere in the world, that's my point.

>>10285893
How did I change the invoice..? I made a screenshot of the invoice, opened it in paint, and wrote a different price in the same font.

>>10286015
Brands usually release a blouse to go with the main-piece at the same time they release the main-piece, and often another top like a cardigan too.

>>10286148
A blog. That way, people can find your review by googling it. If you post it on facebook or cgl, it will only be seen by the people online around that time.

>>10286002
thank you very much anon

Is Lace Market well known/used by Japanese lolitas the same way WW, CC, Mercari and Fril are by Westerners?

>>10286490
No. For one thing, most Japanese people don’t really speak English.

>>10286491
Nor do most Westerners speak Japanese, but that's what Google Translate is for.

>>10286494
Why would Japanese lolitas bother with an English market at all though when theirs is much more expansive and cohesive? They’re not going to go through the trouble of translating, and they don’t.

>>10286498
Well, that's why I was asking? But why wouldn't they, when it's as easy as pressing "translate", and only increases their options? I'm not sure what's so troublesome about that, but I guess you might struggle with it.

How much do i need to add to my body measurements to get my coat size? I want to wear warm layer underneath, like sweater or something.

Will +10cm (~4'') be ok? Or is it too much/little?

>>10286498

To make money possibly.

There are a handful of Japanese or foreign but living in Japan lolitas on LM that price stuff ridiculously high.

Like that SoapboxSirens user. Once saw them list some BTSSB earmuffs for over $30 or $40 when every other LM sale for that item was literally $15.

Even if they are not Japanese if they're stationed in Japan they can easily make a bit of profit off of westerners buying good quality secondhand and reselling. And desu I'm pretty sure it's mostly people who aren't Japanese but just live there.

>>10286063
>Has it been released already?
yes
>Is it very rare?
yes
>Would my best chance lie in Chinese second hand market?
yes but be wary of replicas

>>10286063
Or you could get your friend a real qi-lolita dress instead. AP's attempt at it is laughable.

>>10286666
I don't know if this is correct but it might be helpful?

>>10286491
English is taught in schools, most Japanese people know way more English than the average English speaking person knows Japanese

>>10286747
This is an embarrassing ethnocentric point of view, please educate yourself. Yes, they all study English in school, that doesn’t mean they actually speak it. Most people here in the US take a couple years of another language, it doesn’t mean shit.

>>10286765
you can gain a functional reading knowledge of a language (eg what you would need to browse a website) much more quickly than you can speak it fluently. The post was about lacemarket, not having conversations.

>>10286490
No, even western lolitas don't know about lacemarket until someone tells them about it

>>10286769
I don’t know if you’re the other anon or not but that isn’t what they were saying. “most Japanese people know way more English than the average English speaking person knows Japanese” is a gross overexaggeration, native English speakers are really something else sometimes.

>>10286773
I don't see how it's an exaggeration. Japanese isn't exactly a common second language choice for westerners, they're more likely to pick Spanish or French.

>>10286619
They don’t need LM, that’s why. Anything worth buying on there will be available on a Japanese secondhand market, probably with way cheaper shipping since international shipping is no joke, and unlike us westerners they aren’t used to paying expensive shipping for their lolita.

Your shade game needs some work, too, but nice try I guess.

>>10286776
Most Japanese people can read Roman characters and that’s about it. Do you remember everything you learned in school? Go to Japan outside of Tokyo and try to survive speaking only English, I dare you.

>>10286778
Ok, fair enough, I did a stupid. Let's stop derailing the thread now.

>>10286731
Would you have any recommendation for something that would feel more appropriate than Shanghai Doll? The bl x wh version would look perfect in her wardrobe, and she mentioned this dress some times in the past, besides showing interest in Qi Lolita.

>>10286705
Thanks a lot for your answers, anon! I'll try my luck on Weibo.

When it comes to making the chest part bigger on a jsk, will it be easier for a tailor to do it on a shirred dress? Or does shirring not make a difference?

I can't find the bit on fromjapan that allows you to mark packages down. Do they even offer that service anymore? It says you can mark stuff as a gift but I can't find that either.

>>10286841
You can still do it. I think it's when you choose the shipping type, but I know it was definitely there at least a week ago.
Might not be offered for every shipping type.

>>10286795

It is easier to disassemble and reassemble garments with no elastic for me personally as a seamstress.

Keeping the gathers of the skirt even when an object is only partially shirred can get a little hard.

Is the dress full or partial shirring? If it's as most brands' full shirring and you can't fit it you may just want to look for custom made dresses.

>>10286846
I have a partial shirred and a totally unshirred one that I want to get tailored.

>>10273183
I want lantern pig tails but my hair is short, bob length to be specific. At which length should your hair be at the minimum for it? I don't mind if they're mini lantern bulbs just show me a cute example of a girl with shortish hair

>>10286892
wtf are lantern pigtails? post a pic?

>>10286849

If it has partial back shirring rather than full back shirring, it may be easier because there's no need to keep track of the elastic and it stays intact when removing the side seams of the bodice, while with full back shirring to increase the bust evenly in the front and back they'd need to add fabric to the back piece and the front and either have to redo the entire back larger to keep the full shirring or add unshirred fabric and convert it to a partially back shirred dress maybe.

There;'s a lot of ways it can be done but for most people I'd imagine less fussing around with elastic is easier.

>>10286930
Thanks!

>>10286892
My hair is shoulder length and I can make 2 poofs per pigtail.

>>10286795
It depends on how they are altering it. If it's a solid colour you can match and the problem is boobs, then the fabric should be inserted in what would normally be the side front seam assuming the bodice is princess seamed which makes no difference whether the dress is shirred or not,far more important whether it's lined or not. If you can't match fabric and you're adding into the side seam, it will depend on the type of shirring and whether it's full back or quarter shirred. Quarter shirred would have no impact as you're not needing to touch the seam adjacent to the elastic

Does anyone know any good brands that would have cute dresses less than $30? Im not looking for lolita specifically, just cute frilly dresses and girly clothes.

>>10286783

They probably mean any of the 101 taobao brands that do the more recogniseable qipao-style dresses.

For Japanese burando, off the top of my head
- btssb sa - ku - ra
- AP Fairy Crystal
- Miho Matsuda has a mandarin collar thing in their lineup last year
- Ozz Oneste is practically on qilolita/walolita kick this year

I'll also add, personally I like Shanghai Doll precisely because it does not look like any of the "real" qilolita dresses, the butterflies and the mandarin collars are what makes it for me. So I think it's better to check with your friend what she likes about Shanghai Doll before you go ahead and sub in another dress. Honestly many jsks can be used for qilolita if you sub in the right blouse with a mandarin collar, so.

>>10287209
>>10286783
Sakura is beautiful but expensive as hell on the secondhand market, I recently saw it go for $1500USD

>>10287211

Which is funny because cgl thought it was a clusterfuck when it released lol.

>>10286844
I emailed them and they said they don't allow people to change the value of their item. Guess customs is going to fuck me in the ass several times - I listened to a friend who said they allow you to change the value.

How do you get the general smell of urine out of your lolita? I've washed it in the sink with detergent and the smell lingers.

>>10287060
Thank you

Also, do you guys think a regular tailor can handle this or do I need to find a lolita tailor? It shouldn't be that difficult right?

>>10287287
uh, what?

>>10287473
I don’t know what a lolita tailor is, I don’t think that’s a thing. Any seamstress who knows what she’s doing should be able to handle it

>>10287287
>not sure if bait
I just got done fostering a litter of puppies, and there is a product called Natures Miracle that will eliminate the smell. Also adding white vinegar to your laundry can get rid of the smell, but you risk smelling a little bit like pickles if you don't let the item air out well.

Bust 84, waist 70. I have exclusively been wearing Baby/AATP but want to branch out into other brands. Can anyone with similar measurements tell me if there are any no-go brands for my size?

>>10287516
You probably can’t fit Victorian Maiden or Mary Magdalene. I’m smaller than you and they fit like a glove on me.

>>10287518
Thank you! I was looking at a few VM dresses on LM. You just saved me a few hundred dollars and a heartbreak.

I recently underwent the kind of breast expansion that people on /d/ could only dream of due to birth control, how do I avoid boobloaf? Do I need to just give up on jsks? ;_; I even get boobloaf with normie dresses now, I feel doomed

>>10287520
Maybe shirred though! You’re not huge so you should be fine for anything with give.

>>10287241
That's weird, I swear to god there was a checkbox for "mark as gift"...

I had a new black shirt stain my bra and TWO white blouses. It happened a few days ago and I just noticed now :( How best to get the stains out?

>>10287476
It's a lolita herself who does tailoring, there's a few

Sorry for the slightly off topic question but I remember that some anons have knowelges about fashion history. Does someone know/ understand the cut/pattering of this qipao ? I have seen diffrent pictures of men and women where the dress seem to fold in the midle like a pant, is it one ?

>>10287660
Can you post photos?

What day is the MTO Pickup for Honey Cake at laforet? December is approaching and I don’t know the date

>>10280666
Lifestyle lolitas are actually friendly and it’s a fashion so it’ll like saying someone is a poser for wearing pants. It’s just a dress bro

>>10281300
You clearly never been to Japan. Women at any retail story make their voices cutesy

>>10289248
Customer service voice exists everywhere, weeaboo.

>>10287520
Dick isnt worth it

>>10289259
Lived in japan for 10 years. Jealous much

>>10288939

Where can I get cute short socks but not ones that aliexpress quality?

>>10289411
You’re one of those cringey white people who constantly talks about how ~Japanese~ they are, aren’t you

does anyone recognize where this bra is from or where I can find something similar? thanks and have a great day :-)