/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

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god Mary Magdalene coats are amazing. I got pic related recently and it's warmer than my North Face coat. The capelet and hood are to die for. Wish the brand could recover!

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ending dump

>>10277216
Oh this would make a great lolita challenge, to see if you could wear this in the summer without roasting alive. Maintaining elegance despite the conditions

>>10277368
This isn’t even a good rp, try to lurk more

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>>10277388
anyone know what gloves these are?

>>10277390
which dress/skirt is this??

>>10277376
Well the last time I tried to make a lolita challenge it was blouseless coords and it turned into a shitstorm I thought this one was at least slightly more thought out..

>>10277413

That's because almost every single good coord always has a blouse...

This is basic rules of lolita but you not knowing it shows you're a newfag.

>>10277406
Triple Fortune's Bloody Skirt. I think they're re-releasing a new cut for Halloween.

>>10277216
>sad southern hemisphere noises

>>10277457
Just fall off the Earth already

>>10277457
just wear stuff similar to what is shown here, show everyone that fashion doesn't care about the weather and you'll be superior to everyone else

>>10277417
Chinese lolitas go blouseless plenty of times. So this is more of a western belief, just like thinking cat ears are always bad.

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>>10277475
Thanks guys you're so inspiring.

>>10277241
This coat is amazing, does anyone know where it's from?

This or the red are dream coats of mine,

>>10277479
I hate this kind of argument. "These people do a thing so it is now a thing." Same argument also gets brought up with ugly sneakers. Just because someone else does a thing that looks bad and breaks lolita rules doesn't mean that it is now not ugly or not against the aesthetic.

>>10277658
Yeah if a certain subset of goth folks decided "goth is now about pink instead of black" that doesn't magically fundamentally change goth

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>>10277675
That depends on how prevalent it becomes though? I mean the OTT sweet era of lolita was a far cry from early lolita, and I'm sure some people thought it went against the original aesthetic. But it became prevalent enough that if you ask a normie who has a vague understanding of jfashion what lolita is, they're most likely going to think of the OTT sweet lolita. Some of them might not even recognize old school styles as lolita at all. Any cultural expression, be it language or fashion or whatever, belongs to and is defined and shaped by the people currently participating in it.

>>10277691
That's a shit comparison though. You can clearly tell that old school and OTT are related. All lolita substyles have one thing in common and that is they strive for a central aesthetic, cuteness, cohesiveness, girlyness.

That's like looking at itas wearing sailor skirts and saying oh well look how many of them are doing it, it is now part of lolita. Disgusting sneakers will never ever match the aesthetic. Even that AP sporty sweater dress thing requires nice kawaii shoes not running shoes.

>>10277479
Most Chinese lolitas are ita

>>10277879
we all know you hate chinese lolitas A

>>10278157
awww this is so cute! what brand is it?

>>10278157
Is this a literal child

>>10277658
It's not really an argument, it's a fact. Those things are not considered ita among that country's community. AFAIK Japanese lolitas are also fine with cat ears. The western community has its own separate opinion about what lolita "should" be

>>10277479
Chinese lolitas look like shit 90% of the time. I see these girls wearing no blouse, no petti, and dirty trainers. When Japanese lolitas go blouseless it's for a reason, and they follow all the other rules.

>>10277691
Next time do some stretches before you reach this hard

I own pic related, but I'm thinking about getting another short coat because this one wasn't quite all that I had hoped for. I mainly wear gothic and classic, so I want a relatively simple coat, but it still needs to be lolita so it can accommodate a decent petti. This one has corset lacing, which I'm not a fan of, and it flares out even when not corseted which makes it perfect for cupcake shape pettis, but it looks weird when you're wearing an A-line. Could anyone give me any recommendations? It's okay if it's a coat that's not available right now, I don't mind hunting for it a bit.

>>10281545
It depends whether you still want something that's more fitted, in which case there will always be a bit of flare out to accommodate the possibility of the skirt flaring from the natural waist (unless it's a cropped jacket) or you're happy with something looser that won't have such dramatic flare. There's a couple that might work on wunderwelt and closetchild but it's hard to say even with the vague direction of gothic/classic whether they'll really work with what you own.

>>10278447
The average height for Asian women is something like 4ft 9-10, you must be new

>>10277509
I got all excited cause I recently saw this coat on a local secondhand website but it was the black one soz.

On another note, which brand has the warmest coat? I have some AP coats but desu, unless I layer they don't do much for warmth.

>>10281998
nayrt but the baby hands and round shoe/foot shape incline me to believe it's a little kid too

>>10282016
The classic brands win hands down for warmth, the wool VM/MM coats are known to be pretty good.

Tip for anyone looking for a nice Axes Femme coat. CC has a few great ones for a very decent price. Nostique on Lacemarket buys those and sells them for a huge mark up so avoid her.

I'm having a sad time finding a new long lolita coat. I have a heavy wool fanplusfriend coat but after several years of daily use, it's too fucked and I'd rather replace it with brand. I ordered an IW coat but it's weirdly thin. I live somewhere cold in Europe, I've heard MM coats are amazing but I worry they would be uncomfortable since I'm tall for lolita and my arms are on the muscular side.
For short coats, I've had an AP one which was nice and an MMM one which was more like a suit jacket in terms of warmth. I usually go with a cropped leather jacket with a flannel lining for daily, though I wouldn't wear it to a meet.

What would you recommend for me? Also what lolita coats have you had and how do they compare to each other?

>>10282045
I've heard it a lot for MM but I haven't heard much about VM's coats. Does anyone here have any experience with VM's? I wonder if they're actually that good...

Curious about Sheglit too, they have a cute one on WW Fleur but I just haven't heard about their quality.

>>10282045
Ah, I'm allergic to wool, I should've said that from the beginning, sorry. I'll check them out regardless, maybe they have some synthetic ones. Thanks!

>>10282058
I have the VM Rosalie Hood Coat and it's not warm enough for European winter. When there is any kind of humidity outside you'll freeze your ass off. It's better for a dry cold -10°€ than a wet cold +2°C. But I rarely have that were I live., so I always freeze in that coat. I used to own the MM Amandine Coat and it was much besser and warmer.

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>-10€
Oh heck, I meant -10°C lel

>>10282065
I have a VM coat and MM coats and the MM coats are much warmer. MM uses angora wool and a closer knit weave so it's pretty toasty. I love VM but their coats are disappointing, but very cute.
I found that the wind cuts through my VM much easier. I live in a place that gets to -30°C and no brand coat can withstand that. The lowest I can go out with a brand coat is -10°C before I have to bring out my heavy winter jacket. If you live somewhere warmer VM is probably fine.

>>10282016
I have five coats. Three are Baby, one is AP, one is MM.

The MM coat wins hands-down, but the Baby coats are surprisingly good too.

The AP is meh.

>>10281998
uh not for east asians

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tfw i have a body just like hers and i'm 22

>>10282213
you cant even see her body? theyre going off her hands feet and height

>>10278160
To Alice, they re-release that one like every year
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c-s.w5003-22160233431.12.46eb4f33NyZiYi&ft=t&id=595712606721

>>10282213
That's a standard asian body, really.

>>10282217
Need! Its so rainy where I'm from I'd love to get a coat thats both warm and rainproof.

happen to know the brand?

>>10282217
I wish I had bought the similar baroque puffer jacket last year

>>10282240
It's from fanyoumeng.tmall.com.

>>10282257
Thank you!

Talking about Baroque, what do you think of their collection from this year?

>>10282274
I love how their coats look, though I've never

>>10282274
I love how their coats look, but I've never bought one or read a review... I'm tempted though.

>>10282278
I think it's really cool that they post a pic of their coats inside out to show the construction and how they make them weatherproof too.

>>10282280
This was their puffer coat from last year

>>10282280
The design is so lovely but what's that quilted thing?

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The coat is inside out, so I assume the vest is there to keep your core warmer without you looking like a cross between an ita and a financial bro asshole.

>>10282330
Woah that's fucking genius. Do other brands do that too?

Just ordered Sheglit's Brigitta coat in black as a Christmas present for myself, I'm so excited! It's also my first piece from Sheglit, I've been admiring their stuff for ages.

>>10282340
Congrats anon! Please please please review it when it arrives! I really want to get their similar long one, but I'm put off by it being a 50% wool and poly blend rather than 100% wool...

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>reservation is over
Fuck you, anon. I saw the secret interior financial bro vest and that it came in red and I fell in love. Now I will never have it.

>>10282058
I've heard good things about Lief coats. They seem to have nice roomy cuts, not sure how warm they are

>>10282274
I am not a fan of the wool coat design. It is nice but not really for the winters we have here. I really hoped they would do a re-release of the coat from last year as it had a hoodie. Still a bit salty they had to cancel and refund my order last year.

>>10282537
Ah did you try to get the XL? I saw that they were going to cancel the size if they got less than 10 orders. You'd think a lot of bigger girls would sink money into something like this because they're always struggling with brands not catering to them... Sad times, anon. Hopefully they'll do a similar one next year. Have you emailed Baroque about custom work? I've heard a lot of Korean brands will do that for you if you're really nice and explain the situation and offer to pay more.

>also I'm too pedantic sorry but that coat last year had a hood not a hoodie
>the hood is the bit that goes over your head
>a hoodie is a type of jumper made of soft material that has a hood attached but they're not very warm or waterproof
>I'm so sorry for being a pedantic asshole for real but I needed to say something or it would bother me for the rest of the day

>>10282574
Yeah I ordered the XL one, they actually did end up making the size as there were enough orders for it. Unfortunately for me they had forgotten about my order and the quantity they had asked the manufacturer for was not enough to cover all the XL size orders. As the item was so limited/hard to make and everything, it was impossible for them to create more stock of it and they gave me two options settle for an L size with discount or get a refund. As the L size was only a bit above my actual measurements I feared that I wouldn’t be able to wear it with a JSK and blouse beneath it, so I went for the refund. Still a bit sad about it, they made extra stock of all sizes except for XL. It really sucks, but I guess they are too scared that the XL stock will never getting sold.
Thank you anon for pointing out it is called a hood, I have to say I wasn’t really sure of how it is called in English.

>>10282574
Does Baroque allow customization for coats? I could see sinking in some good money if they can adjust it to my shoulder size. And if there's a black one.

>>10282274
these are everything I've ever wanted but I always worry about Chinese brands using real fur

>>10282217
i have this coat its great i love it but i thinkl i'd trade it for something classier like >>10282283 in a heartbeat! anyone know what temperature they're good for?

>>10282829
They're Korean, not Chinese... But yeah, I suspect they might use real fur.

>>10282972
Really low ones I believe, they used the best isolating materials as far as I remember. But it’s no longer on their website so I can’t check.

>>10282994
Frankly, that's a benefit from my perspective.

Not necessarily Chinese-farmed fur, because their ethical standards are subpar, but I'd love a lolita coat with real fur.

>>10282829
I bought a coat from a Chinese lolita brand once (I can’t remember which one) and when my dry cleaner told me the lining of the hood was probably real fur I about burst into tears.

>>10283092
Do you never use leather products?
No judgment, but real leather and fur will always be superior materials to fake and I wish they were easier to find in lolita.

>>10282829
I'd rather have real fur and leather that is long-lasting and then can actually decay after its work is done than plastic substitutes that will shed and peel and then take a million years to rot.

>>10283170
And you know some endangered fuckin' turtle isn't going to accidentally swallow some and die of a blockage like they do with plastic waste.

>>10283145
Nayrt but leather and fur (excluding cow and sheep) are vastly different in their origins. 99% of leather is a byproduct of the meat industry, whereas most fur is from animals farmed exclusively for their fur and often not killed in humane ways. China is particularly notorious for using fur from cats and dogs.

>>10282829
Real fur is better. They eat the rabbits so I don't get why you're against using the fur too.

>>10283416
It's because vegans care more about animals than they do about the environment or other humans

>>10283145
I have leather products, and I also have a pet bunny. I know it might seem hypocritical but I don’t care. I’m willing to admit that real fur used to bother me less but now all I can think about is my bunny.

>>10283461
I have a pet rabbit too. I would recommend practicing rational thinking.

I really really want to get a bright sax blue coat to wear with my pink sweet dresses like this. Ugh so cute

shopped carpet is weird but its cute nonetheless.

>>10283618
Same, I have this coat in pink but I’m dying for the sax.

>>10283618
I'd personally like it more if the coat had that classic >< shape some coats have

Does anyone have any pics of the interior of an MM coat or can give a detailed description of why they are so warm compared to other coats?

>>10284032
I can post a photo when I get home but the lining is nothing special. I think most of the warmth is because it's 50% Wool 50% Angora. Angora is warmer than wool and is so soft. I haven't found any other brand coats that use thay high percentage of angora. I think some VM coats are a wool poly blend and just aren't as warm

How warm are Axes Femme winter coats?
I love the way their coats look and they are quite inexpensive, but are they warm enough for Dutch winters?

>>10284040
I agree the angora makes a big difference. Mine is also extra warm because the faux fur on the cuffs is so dense. It traps heat really well.

>>10284057
The material is pretty bad in most cases. You will have to layer.

Has anyone tried a FluffyTori coat? Seriously considering buying one

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>>10284142
the one i have is really warm, it has a fur collar attached with lining that’s pretty nice.

>>10284057
I would be more worried about whether or not it is waterproof. If you get soaking wet this coat will not keep you warm.

>>10284298

This person has a ton of tacky handmade stuff on their site like boots with pompoms glued all over them and ugly prints; why would anyone pay $250USD for a potentially low quality coat?

At that price there's far better brand and secondhand options. This reeks of self post.

>>10284298
Looks like bodyline good try

>>10288622
No I just saw a YouTube video of hers about her coats and I try to support indie brands. She talked about her process somewhat and getting factory samples, etc, so I don’t think they’re handmade. And most of the brand coats I have I’m just too tall for and I want to get a coat by a western brand so my wrists don’t poke out.
And as far as I know Joelle doesn’t go on cgl, but then again it’s not like I don’t deny just like everyone else it when it comes up at meets

>>10288723

Fair enough but pic related is so obviously handmade, like they had new shes and added the pom poms.

The jackets aren't terrible but they're only mostly suitable for sweet with the style anyway. Their prints on the JSKS and stuff are still overall ugly to me though.

>>10288740
Yeah it’s all kinda dodgy which is why I was hoping someone had some info on it before I bought. I’m sweet so I like the style alright and appreciate the colors, just hesitant on pulling the trigger without knowing the quality. I’ll probably just end up using my same 3 black, tan, and red coats all winter.

I know this is probably asking a lot, but are there coats out there that work well for bigger chested gals? I've always seen ones that only accommodate around 97cm or so busts, and mine is around 114cm. I usually rely on ugly normie jackets but I'd like to invest in a cute one! Can be short or long, and doesn't have to be super thick and warm (around here it drops to 30-40F at the least during the day in winter).

Any recs on brands/particular makes of coats? Or am I doomed to have weird mismatching outerwear?

>>10288740
god, the spacing on the pom poms is absolute garbage. who made this, michael j fox?

>>10289016
To be fair I think it’s that pompom trim where they kinda dangle loose, but then again what a shitty design choice

>>10288926
Fanplusfriend has cute coats, but I would honestly mostly turn to taobao. Recently ordered pic related from Wheathouse but there are definitely other options too as all of them are gearing up for winter and releasing coats.

>>10288740
It looks like the pompom trim sewn into the seams. Not glued anon.

>>10282332

I own some brand coats (MM, VM, and BTSSB) and sadly none of them had it.

Unfortunately I moved to a warmer climate so this wouldn't be as useful to me now, but I sure wish I knew about their ingenious construction when I was in colder weather.

>>10283618
DreamV does some coats like this if you don't want to shell out for a brand coat. I have a slightly different version of this coat and the sax is brighter in person (though not as bright as your photo).

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>>10291526
Thanks for the heads up! I actually wouldn’t mind paying for brand if they made a coat the right color, but the super saturated OTT sweet colors seem to be long gone from the marketplace. Sigh

>>10291526
Do you know if they offer custom sizing?

>>10292071
no

>>10289068
wait, diffanon but are you saying that Wheat House coat went up to 115cm in the bust?

Reminder that DearMyLove's yearly Sanrio winter coats release at the 26th, a lot of them are loliable as usual.

>>10292121
I'm the og anon they replied to, I checked out wheathouse and all their coats (unless I missed something) stopped at like 105ishcm in the bust. ;__; I can only hope my boobs will shrink when I lose more weight I guess. No cute taobao coats for me..at least I can relish in the fact I fit taobao's oversized cardigans (that are stil oversized on me too) and be comfy.

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>>10288611
I don't own this coat, but I own a Liz Lisa coat that I think is made of similar material. Mine is OKish for Dutch winter (I know since I'm Dutch too). I will add that when I say OKish, I do mean OKish if you wear proper winter clothes underneath. And mine is waterproof.

Sorry, I totally forgot I posted here!
>>10284142
Axes Femme garments tends to vary in quality for sure, maybe I should try a 2nd-hand coat from them first to see if I like the quality enough to buy new. I noticed CC sells a lot of coats.
>>10284301
That sounds good anon. I'm really hoping those coats are warm enough, if not I can always wear it in fall and spring I guess.
>>10288611
I didn't think of that, you make a really good point anon.
>>10294106
I am kind of a koukleum (sorry for the lack of a similar English word), my normy winter coat is from HM and not very warm either so I think it'll be fine. I'll have a look at Liz Lisa too, I'm open to other J-fashion brands too, as long if the coats are long-ish, elegant & cute. I really can't find anything as nice locally sadly, most coats on the European market lack femininity and cuteness.

>>10294114
I think in that case it should be fine indeed. Liz Lisa has cute coats that are a bit similar to Axes Femme (though more on the sweet side than antique). It helps that their website also ships overseas.

>>10292319
Oh, my apologies, I misread. Fanplusfriend would be your best bet. They do custom sizes and will even give you extra lining if you request for it :>

>>10295040
Thanks so much for the tip, anon! I hadn't browsed fpf since like 2015. :) It doesn't get too-too cold here, so hopefully they have slightly thinner coats. I'll def be checking them out!

>>10288926
A bit late, but living in Japan I stumbled on a brand called Re-J that also has a plus size store. It might be interesting to check out as well.They are on Rakuten too, so hopefully should be able to order something if you're interested.
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/jinnee/c/0000000264/
Their collection has a lot of normie coats but also a few more on the feminine and sweet side that perhaps suits your style.

>>10283618
It’s not the same coat but CC has a BTSSB coat in sax
https://www.closetchildonlineshop.com/phone/product/226143

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Forgot pic

>>10295186
thanks for the tip anon! Some of their coats are super adorable! Definitely bookmarking this store!

>>10277413
let it go, holy shit.

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>>10295776
Ppsssttt...wanna buy a rolex?

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>>10282283
Oh wow! Are puffer coats like this still available anywhere!? I just came back after a couple year hiatus buying so I missed these being released, but I've always needed a good cold-climate lolita coat and I'm allergic to wool.

>>10291538
VERY CUTE, LOVED THE WHOLE COORD
but why is there a textile bow on her feet

Forever grateful for this thread! I decided to finally get some coats for my closet and all the examples here really helped me decide what I wanted to go for

I ordered >>10282217 and >>10289068 and the pink coat already came in and its perfection

Finally I'll be rain and winter proof with the help of this thread, many thanks!

>>10277228
I hate those little hats like you wouldn't believe

>>10283810
this is very pretty

>>10291548
This grill is pure erotism to me, I hate her skirt/whatever though.

>>10295263
awwww adorable

>>10279671
I saw a lot of Chinese lolitas at an AP MTO and they don’t wear petticoats so their dresses are flat. Is that a common thing?

>>10291547
This has to be the cutest coord I have ever seen. Does anyone know who she is??

>>10301402
I fucking love them, particularly with 2010-era twintail wigs

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