/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I need all the tea on the AWA tea party.

>>10283358
They had everyone line up to go meet Mana and he gently held everyone's hand and then gave them a rose it was 10/10 I'm still in awe of the fact that Mana held my hand for a few seconds. Also almost everyone looked amazing and the coord contest winners were wearing actual good normal but solid coords it wasn't just a "who is the most OTT" contest which I appreciated.

>>10283370
Mama seemed so dissassociated the whole event. Like during the guest coorinate contest he just seemed to state off and didn't even look at the outfits. The best coorinate contest was chosen by his interpreter and Rubab, not himself, so that was kind of lame as well.

On a positive note I was happy there were so many fans and friendly people to talk to! Plus there were a ton of raffle prizes.

>>10283373
I thought that was like his thing? Like his "persona" he puts on is supposed to be like silent and emotionless. Idk either way I had a blast and it was still cool to see him and meet other lolitas. I have never seen so much Moitie being worn in one place!

Am i the only one who's salty for the fact that they've only now improved the print colour of Silent Moon?
I feel they should have been more confident in their choices BEFORE rereleasing an item.

>>10283376
I think it’s a change in manufacturer, the blue changed in the cardigan too the same way.

>>10283376
No, you're not the only one. I understand how it happened, but it's still sort of annoying to have a dress that could have been more vibrant.

>>10283357
There was already a dead gothic lolita thread too. We don't need a Moitie thread all the time. >>10282170

>>10283381
The new cardigan is giving me life!

>>10283358
The tea party was honestly amazing. There were a few snobby instafamous hoes there like Robin Ray or whatever who were trying to cut in line and order people around, but their asses got shut down fast. Really fun people and decent food, the gifts were a nice touch.

>>10283358
there was as least one girl there not wearing any lolita at all, just in like shorts and a shirt

zero dress code enforcement

>>10283373
yea i was surprised he didnt pick a coord? i seem to remember he did at one of the other events he was at?

>>10283358
Some attendees didn't wear Moitie main pieces. Why go to a brand tea party if you don't have the brand's clothes?

>>10283508
Too big for the brand I guess? One of the girls who won a raffle was small enough for Moitie though.

I wish it was main pieces only but then they wouldn't have sold as many tickets.

Who won the coord contest?

>>10283508
This bothered me, too. I found it to be kinda disrespectful.

>>10283525
I dunno, I saw a lot of people in head to toe moitie around the con who probably would have loved to go. the tickets sold out within minutes, they could have gotten away with a main piece only rule

dude the fashion show was so great. I don't participate in fashion shows but you could really tell that all the models were really happy to be there.
also idk if she counts as "e-famous" but I met aika and she was super nice omg I've been admiring her coords for a while now

>>10283488
Literally who?

>>10283528
I counted at least 7 empty chairs. I think marking it sold out was a mistake.

>>10283508
I'm mainly a sweet and classic lolita but wanted to attend to pay homage/support the iconic brand. I wore their socks, headwear, and a bolero. I expected more of a selection in the booth but didn't see anything I liked more than other rarer pieces I'd rather drop the money on. I just wasn't able to track any down before the event.

"Within minutes" is plenty of time for a diehard fan to have grabbed tickets if they seriously wanted to attend. I mean, I doubt that one girl's boyfriend who was wearing blue jeans was trying harder than any of them.

>>10283541
Brand tea parties are for fans of the brand. But at least you wore some Moitie. A few landwhales were in head to toe offbrand. They weren't even wearing a single Moitie accessory.

>>10283555
Ah I misunderstood. I thought I was being thought of on the same level as them. I agree, I was surprised they weren't enforcing an item check or anything.

>>10283555
Everyone I saw at least had an accessory. I was wearing a MMM dress so I can't say if they checked or not.

I do think it as disrespectful that some bought tickets for an uninterested +1 and threw a random accessory on them. So many girls couldn't get tickets. When the ticket release was delayed I'm not surprised some missed out. I was lucky to be in a position to camp the website.

>>10283530
Some of the the models looked like they hadn't no energy. I wonder if they would have been perkier if the show had not been 90minutes late.

>>10283488
Who even is that? You sound upset anon.

There were so many empty seats, I would say maybe 10+ so I don't understand why they said it was sold out.

>>10283374
>>10283370

omg my heart i am so goddamn sad i wasn't there

>>10283615
Same, I feel so stupid because there was very little stopping me from attending since i had the money. There's always next time.

>>10283615
>>10283616
Another Moitie fan here who could have totally made this trip, but I was focused on a lot of other events at the time of ticket sales and didn't think I'd be free this weekend. I ended up having the whole 4 days of the con free and thought of going last minute, but it would have been disappointing without a tea party ticket, so I just stayed home and did a bunch of Halloween stuff instead.

Disappointed to hear about SOs taking seats from people who are into the fashion. This is often an issue with limited seating events in my local comm, as well. It's great that you can spend the money to bring your boyfriend along, but if you think about it, it's kind of selfish to take a spot from people who would really like to be there.

>>10283501
He never picks coords during the contest. In Seattle, some of the girls were just confused.

>>10283370
I agree with the coord selections. I appreciate the art within some of the ott stuff, I got tired of all the drag makeup.

>>10283526
Girl on the right won best dressed.

>>10283526
And this girl won best Halloween coord.

>>10283636
I don't understand why people feel the need to drag their bf/gf everywhere, can they not stay home for two seconds?

the girl in that bright turquoise cosplay wig and the pink cardigan...

Wew lad

>>10283683
you can't just say things like that and not post pics

The yukata coord was really impressive

>>10283688
I really liked that coord but the girl who won attendee choice was my second favorite. The girl with the yukata had a more original idea which I can respect.

>>10283659
There were plenty of better "Halloween" coords than this. It's so plain, and not very creative at all. I know gothic is usually more understated, but this is yawn.

>>10283697
Aparently this girl won at Sakura con, so I'm glad someone else got the chance this time. She seems kind of butt hurt on her instagram about not winning.

>>10283723
I felt like the judges of the winning moitie coords leaned heavily towards an old school, plain aesthetic. And there's nothing wrong with that but I just find old-school coords to be boring.

But there were also so many girls wearing black on black coords with black veils or that antique beast headdress so it wasn't like they were many original choices.

>>10283738
Off the top of my head I remember the maid coordinate who was a finalist for attendee favorite, two girls with horns, a girl with white out contacts, some people with skewer headdress, and plenty of people with great spooky makeup that would have been better candidates for most "Halloween-y" than some floppy bat wings. But ultimately it is the two assistants choice.

>>10283723
The girl with the yukata won at Sakura con? She wasn’t at Sakuracon.

>>10283488
Do you even go here

>>10283648
He did in Helsinki, but to be fair, rosenocturnalia was there

>>10283829
Not true, she was just confused as well.

>>10283604
I modeled at a previous show and felt super dead from being up super early for hair and makeup and then being on my feet for ages because they didn't want us to sit after getting dressed. I cant even imagine the hell of it being 90min late, those poor girls.

>>10283723
I'm glad she didn't win to be honest, the people who won deserved it more. This girl has a bad habit of shitting on other people and claiming all her ideas are original when it's obviously influenced by drag.

>>10283984
not a girl, uses they/them pronouns

>>10283989

>>10283989
I apologize, I’m glad they didn’t win.

What was Mana wearing? I don't think he allows photos so paint me a picture.

>>10284010
Magical cowboy

>>10284010
He wore a witch hat at the tea party

>>10283995
Don't be transphobic, yikes

>>10283526
Best dressed winner

>>10283984
Her friends are saying the contest winners didn't deserve to win lol

I participated in the fashion show and although it was a bit hectic, I would do it again.

>>10284066
I wanted the yukata coord to win, but it wasn’t nice that other people were bringing the winners down :(

>>10283989
"I'm not like the other girls uwu"

>>10284066
Did they really? I didn't hear that at all.

>>10284074
Can u stop and actually talk about moitie events @ awa literally no one gives a fuck

>>10284030
Oh sweet summer child, you must be so lost.

>>10284066
Caps or it didn't happen Anon.

>>10284030
Nayrt but what website do you think you're on you fucking moron

>>10283723
It's such a tacky thing to be like 'i wanted to win, so disappointed I didn't win' etc. Maybe I've been raised differently but I think it's a bad look. Let your coord speak for itself, if you're deserving people will take note of the unfairness themselves.

>>10283989
SHE always goes on about how she's so original and making waves in lolita. Not a nice attitude.

>>10284064
Here’s the cry baby in the middle. It’s a cool coord, but it’s no secret that Mana and his crew aren’t about that costumy bullshit. They always pick solid but casual gothic coords that embody the classic Moitie look.

>>10284095
Funny you should mention it since you took that bait so easy.

>>10284105
I usually really like her coords. She does solid Moitie, fantastic makeup, and overall does things that are interesting and look well put together, but this? Not this... This is one of her weakest looks in my opinion. It's just way too costumey and if you expect to win a Moitie coord contest then you embody the classic Moitie look, not go for the drag club kid look. I'm not shocked in any way she didn't win, I don't get why anyone else would be.

she hasnt been a crybaby over not placing though people in her comments have been, lor included

>>10284105
I follow them but they didn’t cry about not winning the coord contest? It’s just people commenting on their ig that’s crying about it. Why is everyone so pressed on making shit up that never happened just cus they were more extra/different than anyone else?

>>10284111
It was Halloween. if the tea party took place at any other time I doubt they would’ve gone that heavy with the makeup and the look. Mana has done more extra things than this mind you.

>>10284118
>>10284119
No she was whining and making a big deal of it Sunday night after the tea party on IG stories. It’s expired now so you can’t see anymore. I love her coords and makeup and have been following her for a while so it was really off-putting to see her throw a big hissy fit and be such a sore looser. I worked hard on my coord including a bunch off handmade matching accessories and I didn’t win, but I’m just happy to have had the experience.

>>10284118
Idk man it’s not even that fucking deep. Imagine being shat on for winning because this club kid wannabe didn’t win. I feel so proud of the girls who won, they were amazing in their own right.

>>10284123
I hate how when she was up there and people were cheering for her, she was acting like a fucking celebrity. She bailed out of the tea party so fast when she didn’t win shit.

>>10284120
Mana’s “more extra” has been in the context of Vkei stage performances, not in the context of Moitié as a fashion label. The look makes sense for Halloween, but that still doesn’t mean it was the best and I expected a lot better out of her since she’s usually fantastic and this just looked off overall.

>>10284129
But also to follow that up she looked fantastic in the fashion show and other weekend coords. I look forward to seeing her style grow and have her do things that just look and feel nicer in the future.

Okay enough ~*~*drama~*~* can we all agree that the strawberry mousse dessert was the best dessert though? I wanted seconds but they were all gone when I went back :(

>>10284131
I wish I knew- by the time my table went up they didn’t have any and we got cheated on some food because they didn’t have enough.

>>10284133
That actually usually means someone took too much. Sorry

>>10284131
They had to scold the first few tables up for taking too much of everything.

>>10284144
I promise the middle tables didn’t take more than what was allowed! Also I was sad at the lack of tea but the food was good overall and more than I thought it would be for the price.

So much asslicking on her post. Her coord was good yeah, but she acted so entitled when she was standing for the fan coord like >>10284127 said. I saw her pouting and her table comforting her after she lost.

>>10284131
I was low key disgusted by the sodas they had out, and of course the fatties all grabbed one.

>>10284149
No one gives a shit

>>10284141
That’s exactly what happened. They made an announcement to not take more than one of each item after the first couple tables went up because there wouldn’t be enough for everyone. It’s nit the con’s fault. Aside from that the food was surprisingly good so I’m still happy.

>>10284064
This is a cute coord, but I dont feel like it captures the spirit of Moitie. I am fully aware that isn't the point of coord contests, but if its held by the brand I personally feel that it should. I will say I am glad it wasn't some OTT mess though.

>>10284146
That’s really rude and uncalled for of lor to say that

>>10284157
I think they liked this because it was an unusual colorway for moitie and a set.

>>10284146
She needs to pipe down. No one you admire more than Mana? Been into lolita for less than a year - I'm sure the girls who actually won have been impacted more than her.
This whole attitude is gross. And the most OTT coord shouldn't automatically win! The casual coords aren't my style but it's so disheartening to see a load of beautiful looks, then the person wearing three bonnets and a pair of wings wins, even if it's not cohesive, just for the wow factor. Seems like she went into the contest thinking she was dead set on winning. But she 'opened and closed' for moitie so I guess she can jerk off to that.

>>10284146
Am I crazy or did they put up stories asking to buy the Polaroids if any of the winners were willing to sell? Sulking over not winning is one thing, trying to BUY first place prizes is over the line.

>>10284192
Can confirm, that was said. Wish I'd screenshotted all that BS because it was so tacky. Also the 'I walked for moitie' thing is so weird. You volunteered, seconding what >>10284188 said, it's really sad.

>>10284160
Clown appreciates clown

>>10284192
Yeah they did. Its really gross that they cannot handle not being the centre of attention

What did you guys think of everything being so late and delayed when it came to Moitie stuff? Fashion show, Q & A, tea party, etc.?

>>10284210
The fashion show being late wasn't their fault. The music acts had technical difficulties and ran over from practicing. The models had to get ready in the dark backstage because of this.

>>10284210
The Q&A was only short and late because of the fashion show. Basically AWA consistently is disorganized and late, not just on the fashion events. It wasn't Moities fault and I felt bad for the brand for AWAs poor planning to make them look bad.

>>10284127
they left early because I called the Uber don't spread bs

>>10284282
Not only that but the autograph signing was right after so many people left quickly, including myself.

What are the chances of official video being released from the fashion show? Like even just some short clips?

>>10284146
God I hate Lor

>>10283738
This is how it was at the Seattle tea. They favored simple, oldschool leaning coords. Things that really fit the brand aesthetic of like simplistic elegance. I also got the feeling they liked older dresses?
>>10283723
There were three winners at Seattle, I really only remember the girl who was crying with the bonnet, but idr what the other two were wearing. I think one of them had the cross print jsk from 2014?

>>10284444
2014 cross print was one of them. I don’t remember the last one either.

Am I the only one who thinks it's stupid to try and put together a "winning" coord vs one that you just like for its own sake? Especially when all of the try-hard lolitas don't seem to be chosen.

>>10284152
>>10284149
I give a shit, what kind of brand tea party has no tea and has soda instead?

>>10284536
There was tea, bottled water with glasses for ice, and canned soda

>>10284536
There were 4 or 5 different varieties of hot teas and they also had iced tea, water, and then sodas.

>>10284311
There were several official photographers filming and taking photos so I would hope they will be released.

>>10284538
>>10284537
my b, some anon upthread mentioned a lack of tea

>>10283601
>I do think it as disrespectful that some bought tickets for an uninterested +1
That's on them imo. They decided to attend a con. If you're doing a tea-party at a con, you should expect con guests and ugly interior. If they wanted only lolitas to attend they shouldn't do a tea-party at an anime con.

>>10284533
i think you should bring your "best" coord to a brand tea party, but not to "win", more to show appreciation and your support
like an impeccably put-together basic coord with more common things instead of something with a 2k dress, wings, a mask, etc.

>>10283659
She posted on her IG story about how she is ~totally not bothered~ about being posted here. Girl just be confident that you won and we're all just jealous.

>>10285071
No one was shitting on her though? Like her coord wasn't my style but it wasn't terrible.

>>10283659
holy shit the blue lace of the dress melts in with the background...hoverloli strikes again

How do anons feel about the rabbit fur gloves? I think they're nice but I saw people ree-ing about it on fb.

>>10285581
I personally don't appreciate this kind of product, made out of animal fur, so I won't be buying it.

>>10285581
Moitie has been doing real fur for a long while, it’s funny seeing people not look up past releases

>>10285581
I will still buy from their brand but I don't wear fur myself though I wouldn't say anything if I saw someone wear them. Idk if it's confirmation bias but a lot of the people I've met through alt fashion and visual kei/rock/metal music are vegan or vegetarian..

>>10285594
Why would someone comment about a past release now, unless it's to ask for a re-release?

>>10285594
Moitie is also selling real leather in the current but there was little outrage over it. I don't get the double standard in some of the commenters. One person said the leather was fine because cows are used for meat but not the rabbits, when rabbits are certainly also bred for meat. It comes off as, "I'll be mad because I think bunnies are cute but fuck other animals because I want to be righteous about this and this alone". I'm a vegetarian but I guess I don't care all that much. People will continue to eat meat whether I do or not, and leather is the full use of the animal bred for meat, much like rabbit fur is a full use for an animal that's body will go to other purposes (also meat).

>>10285597
So you really never look up stuff second hand? The ppl on fb are acting like it’s a new thing to have real fur on their gloves but a quick search shows differently.

>>10285600
No, the people are acting like it's a new release

>>10285594
Ayrt, it's also funny that people bitch about materials brands use but when Moitie uses similar things as high end designers (real leather and fur, etc) people get righteous about it.

>>10285581
Don't like it, won't buy it. Omnivores being hypocrites, what else is new.

>>10285599
Thank you, a voice of reason in this! I agree about it being double standards. This isn't with also getting into the whole fake fur being more environmentally damaging than real fur. Also real fur is warmer than fake.

>>10285636
Not according to the Higg material sustainability index: https://apparelcoalition.org/

Rabbits that are bred for their furs are actually not the ones people eat. Just saying.

>>10285647
What’s the difference, then?

>>10284105
The concept and execution of this coord is pretty bomb. the closeups I saw of the make were beautiful.
It's okay to have your heart set on something and work hard toward it, and be disappointed you didn't win. yeah, you could criticize the presumption, but that's not how feelings work. don't pretend gulls are superhumans with nary a flaw.
I like this lolita's artistry in particular and don't think the overblown personal criticism is warranted. But, gulls love their drama...

>>10285648
The ones people eat don't have nice healthy fur

>>10285657
They mean what's the difference between using its meat or its fur

>>10285661
The fur trade is especially cruel and based in Asia, The meat trade is more than likely a little closer to home and a little less cruel as its more regulated.

I'm starting to see photos from the fashion show posted around the internet. Are they up anywhere yet? I can't find anything on the AWA pages.

>>10285671
Soon anon

>>10285655
“Artistry” or not, it’s still a poorly color balanced coord with saggy boots and lumpy cicada drag makeup. I think people are generally tired of others piling on half thought out OTT and feeling entitled to winning. Nobody expects her to be perfect and to feel no feelings about losing, but this coord, while ambitious, is not fully polished and she comes off super attention grabby, which are two things notoriously unpopular on cgl.

Her reaction to the public on Instagram made her come off a sore loser and a bit creepy (with all the odd obsessing about Mana), so I can understand the criticism.

>>10285671
Paul Sebastian Photography on Facebook posted them.

>>10285696
poorly color balanced? explain

>>10285722
NAYRT but the white boots throw it. If you cover up her legs and feet the top half looks much better because the large block of white doesn’t balance well with the stripes and blue of the yukata. It would have looked a lot nicer to use platform shoes instead of boots with blue details and some sort of legwear that uses the blue, black, or gray.

>>10285725
I disagree. Your suggestion would leave the yukata standing out for too much white. The boots are balanced just fine with the make-up. Black is an added color here, so it was a good idea to carry the white from top to bottom, particularly as it is used for the shironuri function. I'd personally even add white lace gloves to this to finish it off.
>>10285696
>half-thought out
>calling shironuri drag makeup
You seem to already have something against this person, so I'm not going to try and argue with you.

>>10285775
>Your suggestion would leave the yukata standing out for too much white.
nayrt, but the Yukata is actually pretty grayish in person, not white. Changing the boots for something on the actual color of the Yukata would surely improve the color matching of this coord.

The legs do feel a bit naked for my taste. I'd arrange for some blue roses around the legs, embroidered of sewn, I don't know.

We have a very full top and a completely naked bottom.

>>10285640
Can you link directly to an explanation of the methodology behind this data? Because this doesn't mean anything without context

>>10285792
nayrt and while I do think it's tacky to be crying about not winning this much, but I used to follow her and I believe she ordered different boots (I'm assuming blue or black) and the wrong colour came and she had to make the best of it
I agree that platforms with nicer legwear would have looked better though

>>10285581
Always bothered me and still bothers me. I don't know why they won't just fully switch to fake fur. Moitie is still a high quality brand without using real fur and leather, it's kind of silly.

>>10285919
>Moitie is still a high quality brand without using real fur and leather
These are literally one of the most common markers of high quality

>>10285581
I'm only considering getting them because they are real fur in the first place.

>>10285953
lame bait

>>10285775
Something against her? Who is she even? Why are you so hellbent on defending this coord?

>>10286036
>Why are you so hellbent on defending this coord?
Obviously one of her friends here to white knight.

I was at the party and don't think she even wore those white boots at all during the party... I think she changed into them for only the pics

>>10286248
Oh, she most certainly wore them for a bit during the event. She looked like an idiot wobbling around on those tacky stilts while clinging on to her friends for dear life.

>>10285581
My hands are small as shit so they wouldn't fit anyway. People reeeing about it are hypocrites though.

>>10286384
Why are they hypocrites? Do you think they wear rabbit fur from other brands?

>>10286506
most people didn't bat an eye with the real leather items that were released before, and it's not like it's the first time moitie made something with fur in their items.

>>10286617
But Moitie wasn't on facebook the previous times they released fur

>>10285581
Anyone who eats meat shouldn't be whining about it. Factory farming hurts animals a whole lot more than this.

>>10285595
...visual kei fans meaning Japanese people?? Never heard of asian vegetarians in general honestly

>>10285919
>I don't know why
Because asians in general love real fur. There's no sjw silliness there

>>10286819
Being a vegetarian/vegan in Japan is pretty hard, they use meat/fish in almost everything and even if they leave it out, the bouillon is often pulled from fish or meat anyway. In Asia people really don’t care about stuff like this, better Taobao brands use fur/leather and such as well.
But yeah, wearing stuff like this in the West pulls you at risk of getting paint thrown at you. It really sucks as I barely wear my coat with fur collar because of this. It is a pretty coat that cost quite a bit, but it is just gathering dust. Like we eat the meat anyway, wouldn’t it be more sustainable if we just use everything the animal has to offer instead of trowing the leftovers away as waste?
I really hate this whole vegan trend. It really sucks the fun out of Lolita.

>>10286818
but buying from a brand that uses materials you dont support is still supporting them. either dont buy the thing and shut up, or buy the thing if you dont care.

>>10286021
Not bait. Genuinely makes the gloves worth the money for me. I do live in a fairly cold climate so brands using real fur is very welcome as it performs and wears MUCH better

>>10285953
Honestly I wish the fur trim were thicker, that's the only reason I didn't get them - it makes them look unbalanced. But real wool and fur are so much better in cold climates!

>>10286819
Buddhist asians are vegetarians. But aside from religious or health reasons, I don’t think Asian people really restrict their diet. There’s too much importance placed on food and the traditions surrounding food.

>>10286021
nayrt, but I was tempted to buy them because of the real fur aspect. I don't buy anything with fake fur because I try to avoid things that are totally synthetic or plastic like that.

It's bad enough that brands have switched more and more away from natural fibers. Most of my normie wardrobe is wool, linen, or cotton. All of my normie shoes are leather. Fur biodegrades, and while it may be "inhumane" to kill an animal to use it, I think it's much more inhumane to continue polluting our planet with nasty junk plastics.

>>10286819
No, people I know irl obviously. But I do know a couple of Japanese vegetarians (celebs I follow on insta and twitter).

>>10287183
>>10287293
Okay, we can safely say *the vast majority* of asians don't care about vegetarianism/animal rights/whatever. Thus why the whiny western opinions won't stop this kind of thing.

>>10287184
>it's much more inhumane to continue polluting our planet with nasty junk plastics.
this. Plastics are fucked up. Plus, natural fibers feel better, be it cotton, linen, etc.

>>10286248
she just listed them for sale on lacemarket... costume mentality

>>10287569
The more I find out the more I'm glad she didn't win anything.

>>10287949
me too

>>10288066
Daaamn. I have that policy too but it's much easier to make a private account

>>10287569
That seller bio ... whew lads.

>>10288156
Screenshot?

>>10288112
they just went private lol

What are your thoughts on the models selected for AWA? I just saw someone ranting about Moitie not selecting "real" fans for the runway and wanted to check if this was just a cringe comment or if this was a general feeling in the US.

>>10288258
Pretty cringe. Like besides the girl already talked who seems more into being a cosplayer, the other girls all seem to actually love and collect the brand.

>>10288258
I talked to most of them and they all seemed like genuine lolitas and fans. It sounds like whoever said that was upset they didn't get in.

>>10288258
One girl threw a fit because all the models were thin. She felt she wasn't picked because of her weight and she should have been chosen first because she is a real "fan". I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same person.

>>10288258
I wonder where the entailment to brands came from? like, a brand owes you nothing just because you paid for a few of their products

>>10288258
Where was this, insta? She just sounds jealous lol

Someone actually missed out on a tea party seat and a rose from mana so this girl could show up in this

>>10285919
>Moitie is still a high quality brand
On what standarts? TaoBao maybe? AP/BTSSB/Meta/IW not.
I´m a Moitie enthusiast and own/owned a lot of pieces over the years and I hate to say that but the quality is decreasing since 2011 or even before that (I look at you Iron Gate). At least for the print pieces. It feels to me like the designers slap a print on a dress or skirt and think this is enough to sell, which obviously is. I owned the first release Silent Moon OP and there was so little lace and details on it it was so disappointing and on top of that they didn´t evcen bother to put a logo tag in it.
The Harpsichord Trio OP had super cheap lining like the fabric you use for Halloween costumes. Not to mention how bad all that polyester is in the first place.
The solid pieces are much better with lots of details and wonderful fabrics. Maybe that´s the reason why Mana chooses the winners with "simple" and older pieces over overrated prints because he knows they are shit.

>>10286825
>Like we eat the meat anyway, wouldn’t it be more sustainable if we just use everything the animal has to offer instead of trowing the leftovers away as waste?

I would kinda agree if the human kind didn´t start to breed animals specifically just for having one purpose either fur, meat or eggs/milk most of the time you can´t have both. Did you ever ate a chicken which was used for efficiently laying eggs? I can tell you that the meat is really aweful. While this doesn´t apply for all animals which provide meat or fur it does for the majority. Even boars and deers get bred this days. Not that wild nature life from hundreds of years ago.

And when it comes to fur/pelt you can´t eat all species which provide that. Would you eat a fox, cat dog and such because they are used for fur? I rather not.

>>10288318
Was it this girl?

>>10288483
Was a requirement wearing something from the brand?

>>10288508
Yea it was. No one enforced it though, they literally just let anyone in with a ticket.

>>10288509
Yikes.

>>10288483
It was quite eye opening to see the photos. I'm sure the lighting wasn't the most flattering but it's weird to see how much people change their face and body for the gram.

>>10288479
It was exactly this one that anon posted >>10288507 ! I saw it earlier and cringed a bit. But then again, I'm not familiar with the chosen models, so I was wondering wether It was a general feeling

>>10288507
Oh my she still exists? I remember her from the old times and she was a huge Mana weeb back than but if she would be such a fan she would recognise that Moities sizes, especially the older items are for tiny slim Japanese.
This brings back so much cringy memories with her!

>>10288501
Mana doesn’t choose the winners.

>>10288501
If you look at old school Moitie there is also minimum amount of lace and details. That's what I love about Moitie lol.

>>10288501
Read the full sentence, I was referring to fur use.

>>10288156
damn she's also selling that headpiece

>>10288717
Only twenny dollar tho. But the boots are insanely priced? I assumed they were fetish shoes that you could get from pleaser for $120.

>>10288501
I couldn’t agree more regarding the quality of Moitie prints. I remember back around 2011 myself, when I first got to see some Moitie in person, thinking if this really was Moitie’s quality. The print looked no better than cheap band t-shirt screen-printing. It really put me off buying any of their pieces for several years. I love their non print stuff but not their prints.

>>10288727
I recall a while back where they were bitching about anons saying 'I'm unemployed and don't go to college and even I don't have time to be talking shit about people online'. I guess they must be hurting for cash after AWA

>>10288764
They’re trying to save up cash to go to the Moitie event in Russia, so they can embarrass themselves again.

>>10288534
this image is so creepy lmao

>>10288534
I can think of a few reasons why she probably wasn’t picked...

>>10288771
Were there even any news about that, besides the moitie announcement?

>>10288318
My lard ass wasn't picked either. I was salty that I didn't get a polite "we didn't choose you" email but its not like I was surprised.

>>10288860
What?? I can't figure out what's going on with her hair here

>>10289198
Looks like she threw a partial wig that's a different color on top of her real hair

>>10289245
5 bucks says „set of old clip on twin tails“

>>10288860
While tattoo’s are like an instant no when they pick models, that tattoo on the right bottom is like a hell no never going to happen. The girl should reconsider her life choices.

>>10289423
Lots of the models they've picked in the past have fairly visible tattoos.

>>10285455
Seriously? It was the worst coord at the party....

>>10289531
That's definitely a stretch, anon

>>10289531
Yeah I think the girl who won one of the prizes who was just wearing like black pants a vest would be my pick for worst. I don't even know what brand item she had on.

>>10289423
The Marilyn Manson one?

It looks so much like a hate group symbol (especially upside down like that). As much as I love MM, it's fucking stupid to get that as a tattoo.

>>10289531
Were you even there? There was literally someone there in a cosplay wig

Loving the dramu. Wish i were there.

Has anyone bothered to ask moitie what's up with all the long cuts? The nun op and gardenia rereleases frustrate me to no end, I want them so bad, I want to support moitie, but I hate the length. Does anyone else feel this frustrated about the lack of short cuts?

>>10290029
No because all you need to go is look at what other brands put out. Even AP is doing the long cuts, and this with the sizing its catering to an older audience. I just wish they did cute like Iw do you can choose long or short.

>>10290029
Long cuts look better on ham-legged Mana worshippers

>>10290029
I like the long cuts, but I'm too short to wear them :-/

>>10290029
>tfw still not long enough to cover my ankles
They released long and short cuts for the Cross OP too, I wonder what's their reasoning behind not doing it with the others. Anyway, if they're still there at the end of the year I'm gonna buy both, take them to a tailor and post results here.

Bat Corset Skirt

Corset and skirt hems were inspired by bat wings.
Made of a mid-weight fabric with horizontal stretch, suitable for all seasons.

【Details】
Opens via zipper on the left side
Skirt: Two original MmM buttons on waist, elastic back
Corset: Boned (ten bones only in upper half of the corset so that the lower half can accommodate skirt volume), size adjustable via front and back lacing

【Size】
Skirt
Length: Front and back center 56cm (48~64cm)
Waist: 62~72cm

Corset
Front center length: 17cm
Back center length: 26.5cm
Waist: 65~80cm

【Material】
Outer material: 100% polyester
Lining: 100% polyester
Ribbon: 100% polyester

【Price】
18.500JPY (+tax)

【Release Date】
November 19, 3pm JST

Lace Crochet High Neck Knit Top

Thread ribbon tape of your choice through the crocheted collar and cuffs to make this knit top your own.
The simple design goes well with JSKs and OPs as well, making the item useful for winter coordinates.
Made from a moderately thick material just right for the knit top to be worn instead of a blouse (thicker than the Nun Cape Collar Knit Top).

【Size】
Length: 58cm
Bust: 82~110cm
Hem circumference: 70~96cm
Sleeve length: 56cm + Crochet Lace 5cm
Sleeve opening: 20cm
High neck: max. 19cm

【Material】
50% Wool
50% Acrylic

【Price】
13.500JPY (+tax)

【Release Date】

>>10290178
and same skirt with the other blouse

Nun Cape Collar Knit Top

A knit top with an elegant cape collar, made from a thin, soft material with stretch for comfortable wear.
Suitable for all occasions from daily wear to special outings depending on your coordinate.

【Size】
Length: 58cm
Bust: 68~120cm
Hem circumference : 68~116cm
Sleeve length: 58cm
Sleeve opening: 16cm
High neck: max. 18cm
Cape :18.5 (front center)

【Material】
50% Wool
50% Acrylic

【Price】
15.000JPY (+tax)

【Release Date】
November 19, 3pm JST

>>10290179
This angle does fanny no favors. I’m on the fence about getting a skirt after seeing her in it. It looks a little frumpy on her, but it looked pretty cute in the show.

>>10290178
I could wear this to work. Will get the top and skirts.

>>10290179
The top is super cute!

>>10288483
That orange makeup is not okay. Tons of new POC friendly brands, no excuse to cheap out on orange drugstore makeup

>>10290179
>>10290178
This is hugely unflattering and the uneven hem doesn't work with the simple design

>>10290178
Does it say anywhere what kind of boning it is?

>>10290201
In the show, with extra poof, it looked pretty good.

>>10290201
The only way it would be unflattering is if you had a large waist.

>>10290209
Looking at the bodice it looks like it will be just weak plastic. There isn’t enough rigidity to it or shape to suggest metal boning, which would give a much nicer shape.

>>10290221
not really, the max of the skirt is 72, so that isnt an issue. But looking at >>10290179 it looks meh on Fanny because she is slim but the angle doesnt show the curves the corset part gives head on like in >>10290178

>>10290233
It is obviously plastic for this price point, but I dont think metal would have worked. It would have been amazing to have a brand who made a proper corset but I dont think Japan will be the place for that.

>>10290213
They had one model with little poof, and another with more poof. I wonder if they wanted to show more versatility with it.

>>10290240
Excentrique used steel boning at times, and I believe Abilletage sometimes use it as well, however, don’t take my word on that as it’s a brand I know less well.

>>10290209
If it had anything better than plastic, it would be twice as expensive

This looks so much better on Yui vs. Fanny.

A closeup.

>>10291284
Fanny just...doesn't look great in Moitie and she doesn't make Moitie look great, I think she only got the job because they wanted a white girl. I don't know if she was ever an actual model prior to Japan but her posing and facial expression seems really flat and you can see how much she relies on one or two go-to poses. Even with the editing she looks really average.

>>10290179
ot: Anyone knows what shoes she wears? Demonias?

>>10291300
That looks either moitie or meta

>>10291292
I've always thought she would make an amazing Victorian maiden model or some sort of classic brand.

>>10291284
I'm happy MMM are releasing stuff in a wine/red colourway

>>10291284
I honestly just don't think it looks very good... the Nun cape top is, however, adorable, and I have an alarm set to wake up early to try and snag it in black.

>>10290179
Interesting tweet, says the results of pre sale demand.

The skirt in black was 1st by a big margin, then the nun blouse in black and white as well as the black high neck top in a close 2nd, then the red skirt and nun top In blue as a close 3rd

I expected the nun blouse to well but not that the red skirt quite behind in demand.

>>10290029
Still salty they didn't do a long cut for Silent Moon

>>10291354
It looks a little thin, so please review it when you get it.

>>10290135
Are the new dresses really that big? I have yet to get a dress from new-moitie, mostly because of the long cuts. I kinda regret not grabbing lace cross jsk though, it was up for a long time too.
>>10290143
Didn't the short cut of cross op sell out faster/more compared to the long cut too? And are you tailoring the long cuts shorter?
>>10291389
Salty moon didn't come in my dream colourway so I feel your pain

I love them!

>>10293823
I love it. I think I'll get the white for the contrast. I like the blue the best but I dont have anything else in that colour. I wish they had a version with white thread on black netting, or black thread on white netting though.

>>10293823
I wish they would do something different, we already have iron gate.

>>10291858
The size doesn’t matter, Manafats will stretch anything with shirring until it’s completely flat. At least if it’s long we don’t have to see their ham legs sticking out from mid thigh

>>10291285
I bought the runway skirt at AWA. It doesn't have any boning in the corset piece at all, or at least the runway version didn't.

>>10293990
It has half boning.

>>10293823
Holy shit this is beautiful

>>10293990
That's strange, the runway one I bought had half boning. It's plastic though.

>>10293990
Maybe recheck yours again. At least one had plastic, half boning.

>>10293823
The lace pattern for the bodice looks so cheap that it really makes me hate how it looks in navy. If they did just the blue lace on the bottom and then everything else black it would have been perfect.

>>10293823
Wow, this is gorgeous.

>>10293989
...the size DOES matter, because moitie rarely makes items with shirring? I think there's only been 3 main pieces with shirring since the revival, 2 of which were rereleases of dresses that were popular before because they could stretch. I asked because revival moitie now makes two sizes, one being much larger yet there's been claims that both sizes are much larger than their typical sizing (which varied anyways).

>>10293823

It looks way better in other people's worn photos >>10290730 >>10290732
wunderwelt needs like, better backdrop or better photogs or something.

I don't know if I want it or not though, the upside down wording in >>10290548 is a bit annoying.

>>10293823
What is the underdress? I WANT THAT

>>10288483
Can photographers stop using fucking dark backgrounds and low lighting when photographing goths??? They did this at Hellocon too, it's absolutely bullshit

>>10294658
The lighting at the tea party was really bad for pictures too. They could have at least used some extra lights in the photo area.

>>10294102
So I had time to check finally and you're right it has plastic half boning. I really like this skirt but ngl the corset top feels just a little too big for me so I'm considering selling it if it doesn't look right once my petticoat comes in.

It was my first lolita purchase so we'll see.

>>10288508
as pathetic as it is, her gloves are undeniably moitie

When will they restock the goddamn Candelabra bag

>>10293985
That's not Iron Gate lol

>>10294657
It's from a Korean brand called Baroque

I just got the nun cape cutsew and lord, I'm disappointed in the quality. Idk if I just have high standards, but it looks like shoddy dollar store quality. It came wrinkled as shit, the collar looks like it's about to come apart at the seams and drapes horribly. It's also huge on me, super baggy, definitely not as slim fitting on the torso as the pictures made it look. I want to comment on how dull the blue looks compared to the stock photos but I have really bad lighting right now so maybe it isn't (kinda also looks shiny, maybe my eyes). I know the material is supposed to be thin but this feels thinner than my cheap taobao tshirts. I cannot believe I spent this much on this, this is the second time I got burned by new moitie too. Did anyone else get one of the new releases?

>>10295845
I skipped them all--the knit top looked too thin, the nun collar top was ribbed (not my style), and the skirt has 0 support.

But I'm planning to order the Baroque collab piece and am crossing my fingers that the tulle portion isn't too delicate.

>>10295855
I feel the same about the three releases, I talked myself into the nun collar because it was the only one I kinda liked and I wanted a nice quality top (so wrong). I thought the skirt looked super cheap and the knit was way too generic.
Does Baroque allow for overseas orders or do we have to wait for Wunderwelt to stock it? Hopefully that release is much better than the quality of the last three releases...

>>10295858
The overseas option isn't open yet, their website says it'll be the end of this month or the beginning of the next. Krad had their MmM collab for sale on their site so I imagine Baroque will do the same on their international site.

>>10293823
That lace looks so cheap. Like 1$ store

>>10295845
I'm picking mine up from the post office this afternoon, now I'm nervous eek

>>10295845
Can you please take pictures?

>>10296081
Alright, back from the post office and here are my thoughts: I don't think it's dollar store quality, but it's not $150 quality. The material is definitely on the thinner side, though not see-through or anything.

The sizing is weird and it's very top-heavy due to the combination of the bishop sleeves plus the weirdly-draping nun-collar - unfortunately, I have a slightly above average bust (32DD/E), which just makes it look even more unbalanced.

The rest of it fits me very comfortably (28 inch waist); I think someone a bit bigger could comfortably wear it as well - but again, you'd have to have a small bust for it to be actually flattering. A very petite person would be absolutely swimming in it though. The nun cape also seems very prone to wrinkling,

>>10296158

>>10296159
I think it looks nice on you, anon, with a lolita skirt you shouldn't have to worry about it being unbalanced. Getting increasingly annoyed at the fact that not a single new Moitie release has had petite sizing though. It used to be one of the brands that fit me best but I guess I'm stuck with buying their old releases now.

>>10296167
Shut the fuck up

>>10296159
It looks really cute on you! I think the top heaviness is fine in Lolita since the skirt even that out

Have you guys noticed that almost every one of the non-Japanese official Moitie models identify as non-binary, trans, queer, or some variation thereof? Why is this, any theories?

>>10296175
Lolita brings in lgbt friendly ppl because if you are cool with being weird you are likely to be cool with these ideas. See also most efamous lolitas are lgbt, and tons of posts on cgl talk about being gay

>>10296184
Isn't it a shame that they hijacked something that was made as a fashion and art for and made it about expressing sexuality? Because you do know that lolita was never intended as an expression of sexuality, right anon?

>>10296188
What? You misinterpreted the post.

>>10296255
No, the west misinterpreted lolita.

>>10296188
How is someone being chosen to model for Moitie while also being queer "them" using the fashion to express sexuality? The goofy point you're trying to make is miles away from what they were asking.

>>10296188
Nice bait.
>>10296255
>>10296331
Stop replying to males.

>>10296333
You're right, sorry.

>>10296184
In the west only. Japan has almost no tolerance for lgbt.

>>10296175
because most young girls today are idiots who identify as genderspecials?

>>10296175
This is quantifiably false

>>10296175
gee, a brand founded by a man in drag is sympathetic to people also expressing non-traditional gender roles, I wonder why that is?

>>10295858
Just wanted to let you know that international pre-orders are open now, in case you haven’t seen it yet. It was hard for me to decide between white and black, but I went with the white one cause it matches more of my wardrobe. Wish I could have gotten both, but the timing was just really bad for me...hoping to snag one second hand next year.

>>10296609
mana isn't a drag queen, why is that so hard to grasp?

>>10298635
a person that dresses in women's clothing for sake of performance is a drag queen. actors, too.

>>10296609
that's a western standard and you do not understand the nuisance of other genres in their cultural context

>>10298635
He is a crossdresser though which is playing with gender expression. I do think he has a soft spot for the fellow weirdos in the fashion.

>>10296159
agreeing with the others. That looks cute as hell on you and now I'm kind of sad I didn't buy it. The ruffle helps balance out your breasts and I think the top-heaviness will look good with your skirt poof. It adds to the wasp-waist look.

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>>10300768

>>10300768
Manajamas

>>10293823
I feel dumb for asking this, but it's just an overdress, not an OP, right?

>>10300786
true

>>10291349
Agreed Anon, but I get it. I don't suit goth aesthetic either but if mmm wanted to hire me to model you bet your ass I'd say yes. I can't blame her at all.

Why did they put such horrible eye-enlarging makeup on the model on the right? It looks so bad compared to the other model; she looks cross-eyed.

>>10300768
What sort of advertising is this? They couldn't have bothered ironing it before taking pictures?

>>10300852
Kek.

>>10300866
like g*rlyh**t they just don't give a damn no more

>>10300768
Cozy

>>10300866
taking a cue from bodyline

>>10300852
I think she might have made her own makeup. On her instagram she has the same makeup style. Actually I think she looks hella cute in that derpy way!

>>10301372
>I think she looks hella cute in that derpy way!

Same thought when I saw her lol. What's her insta?

>>10301372
Even if really derpy cute, it really doesn’t feel like it matches Gothic/moitie. Sweet sure, but it just looks and feels so out of place, especially next to a model that doesn’t look so massively overdone and elegant in the makeup dept.

>>10301375
Her IG's bradymary_su!

I found her when I was trying to search for Korean lolitas, but if anyone knows of any others I'd appreciate it!

>>10300770
kek

>>10300866
>>10300973
Wunderwelt's pictures have always been shitty, they use the same staff for pictures now

>>10293985
I wish they did something like iron gate again

>>10301546
I just with FOR iron gate

>>10301581
but it ain't gonna happen

>>10302357
obvs not but one can dream

>>10296167
I agree, where are the skirts with the original sizing? Really disappointed in the many fully shirred pieces.

>>10302357
iron gate-esque print may totally take place and I think there will be enough of people who’d like to purchase it.

>>10303573
Bronze gate ftw

So what's going on between evan and aika? Evan's stories are telling..

Finally got my Lace Crochet Knit in the mail. I like it a lot actually. I'm willing to post a short review and photo if someone wants.

Hey. I don't really do EGL myself but pop in every so while to see what people are wearing. With that out of the way, probably a really obvious question: are "coordinates" the completed outfit?