/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10282411
While some may not share, there are still some that do. Person in the OP is just plain rude. If you don't want to tell them, just don't answer.

>>10282411
Social media platforms like IG attract people who are insecure, attention-seeking, and jealous. But you'll likely find cosplayers are more willing to give advice on forums and discord servers, which require a different type of engagement. And personality lol

>>10282411
I used to answer peoples' asks on my cosplay blog all the time, typed out detailed replies, walked them through things they got stuck on, etc. But you know what? Out of the many, many, MANY people I helped out or told what I used/how I did a thing, only two ever thank me or replied back. Two. That's it. One of those was just a "Thanks!" which is still better than no response at all.
If I go to the trouble and time of working with you and helping you out with your questions, I'd at least like a thank you or have the person tell me how it worked for them.
So in the end I just quit answering questions at all and never reply, it got tiring and I feel like people don't appreciate it. I don't know if that's a cunt think to do but I just got tired of it.

>>10282411
Maybe they just liked the quality of the photos?? I would absoluitely ask someone what lens they used if they took really nice food photos

What kind of cunt gets mad over a question about lenses?

>>10282411
It gets annoying having to spoonfeed people. Not to mention the idea that you’re using a special tool as opposed to having honed your skills for years... I suppose there’s no need to get so pressed over something this trivial though.

Also keep in mind that communication via social media is a lot more open these days. There is a heavier flow of interaction, and it can cause people to burn out like >>10282488

>>10282548
A high quality expensive camera/lens is going to take nicer pics than a cell phone or w/e no matter who is using it. So it's a really benign question

>>10282411
OP is being a huge dick who just wanted info but i also get what theyre saying. you cant just buy an expensive camera and expect itll make you as good as someone who has been working at it for years

>>10282560
**to someone who just wanted info

>>10282555
I don’t think that’s 100% correct. It makes it easier to take nice pictures and also makes a certain level of quality more accessible, but it’s not like you can’t take good pictures with a cellphone. Giving a noob any expensive tool is a waste of money when they don’t know the basics.

>>10282411
Asking what photo equipment someone uses is a bit different than asking about detailed info on how someone made a part of cosplay. I'm a photographer an I'd be happy to share info on my equipment, because what matters the most is your skill. Even if you give a total noob the most expensive and amazing equipment, they're not gonna get as good of a result because they don't know how to use them well. The person in OP's pic just seems insecure in their skills if they're secretive about their basic equipment like lenses etc. You're not teaching people how to take pictures, just telling them what tools you use.

On the other hand giving in-depth tutorials or walk-throughs about how you made parts of your cosplay is something that I'd rather not do. Then you're just spoonfeeding people information that you've worked hard on and went through a lot of trial and error for. If people just ask what fabric/wig etc. you used it's the same as asking about the lens thing and I'd be happy to comply, but if they start asking how to make certain parts it's kind of a no-no. I can provide links to the tools I use but I'm not your teacher, just figure out how to do things yourself.

I don't mind answering questions about how I made something or what I used if it's a specific piece, but more often than not, I've had people wanting details on every aspect of how I made a costume, and I find that somewhat lazy and annoying. I would never be rude about it like the person in OPs photo, but if you can't do even a little bit of research before asking for a full write up, you shouldn't waste someone else's time asking them to hold your hand for free.

>>10282411
I think it's really about the people asking these questions seeming to think the quality of the result is due to the materials and tools used rather than the skill of the artist. It can be disheartening when people think they can make what you make if they just get the same tools without putting in the hundreds of hours you put in to get to your level.

>>10282548
the person that asked about the questions said nothing to imply that the quality of the cosplay was due to the lens. They just want to take pictures that look nice. The cosplayer was being a defensive dumbass for cosplay positivity points. They manufacture dumbass complaints about the community all the time.

>>10282560
>>10282411

Well, yeah. This is Chez Cosplay, who is notorious for acting like other photographers are beneath her and cosplayers are garbage if they as her questions during the shoot or booking process. Is anyone really surprised?

>>10282562
No, equipment does make a difference. "What lens do you use" is the same as asking a cosplayer "what sewing machine do you use". Neither makes you good, but you're only going to get so far without good materials. If you don't want to share your "secrets" that's one thing, but don't ridicule people who want to better themselves through good equipment.

>>10282676
>This is Chez Cosplay
Do you mean ChezPhoto Cosplay? This makes more sense now. I know people who've shot with her and her sense of entitlement is unreal.

>>10282679
This.

In addition though, I would say that a secret is more along the lines of using a certain technique you picked up yourself through trial and error or something similar. A lens is such a basic piece of equipment, and being so insecure that one would think that somebody less experienced could one up her simply by having the same lens is embarrassing. Chez needs to git gud or shut the fuck up.

>>10282562
>Giving a noob any expensive tool is a waste of money when they don’t know the basics.
This. I see so many noob photographers in the cosplay community go out and buy expensive lenses and A7iiis but they don’t know basic things about photography like composing a shot or how to edit photos. People seem to think that photography is just clicking a button and your job is done.

>>10282679
I’ve heard stories about people accidentally walking into the background of her shoots or walking in an area where she’s shooting and getting yelled at by her. If you shoot in public, you should expect there would be other people around. No one is entitled to a public space.

>>10282670
Exactly. There was nothing remotely offensive about the question that warrants such a drama queen response.

>>10282411
I never had any issues asking people for advice desu. People have replied in a friendly way when I ask ´how did you do X´, and I've done the same when others asked me.

>>10282488
This is 100% the reason why I stopped giving out advice and felt more annoyed than flattered by it. It started feeling like people weren't appreciating my work but only wanted to rip it off and profit off of my good will to help them out. After spending so much time figuring out stuff on elaborate parts I felt like a fool being milked on my naivety. They almost never thanked me for helping them out either and very rarely even complimented my craft.

I've heard that other cosplayers feel exactly the same so it's really no wonder that we ended up in this situation. Rude newfags couldn't be bothered to learn stuff on their own and instead expected everything to be handed on them on a silver platter because of muh community. I'd rather be a rude bitch not answering your asks than constantly spoonfeeding every dumb ingrate. I know I sound amazingly petty but seriously when you get a very modest amount of sincere admiration compared to people rushing to steal your effort it becomes really old really fast.

The person in OP is being unnecessarily rude and childish though.They could've just ignored the question instead of throwing a melodramatic tantrum.

>>10282411
The volume of questions like these could easily be reduced with a pinned FAQ

Because most people are just going to go order shit off ebay, amazon, esty, or aliexpress vs all the BS you tell them. Very few people will actually go all the way for something that is going to be worn for like a few hours out of the year depending how much they go to cons

No offense but there are a fuck load of snobs out there too, who when you cut corners, or do budget cosplay get all fidgity about shit. Bruh it's my cosplay I wish I had all the time and money to do cosplay right but sometimes just adding a few things to an aliexpress purchase is easier.

>>10282684
She'll snap at anyone ruining her shot, including the cosplayer if his/her posing isn't good enough. My friend won't book with her anymore after paying hundreds of dollars just to be told that she looks awkward. If you're going to treat a paying client that way at least give some constructive posing suggestions.

>>10282796
She thinks she’s hot shit because she gets hired by European publications but the fact that she still has to do cosplay and wedding photography on the side means that she’s not making enough to cover her living expenses just by doing fashion photography alone.

Different lenses give photographers different options. Asking what lens you shot something on isn't an insult to your skill, and photographers who aren't antisocial shut-ins talk about what glass they used to each other all the time. This girl sounds insecure if she thinks a basic question is an insult.

>>10282740
That sucks that this has been your experience. Whenever I reach out to someone for a question I say thanks. I also never expect an answer but so far people have always been willing to help! I think having specific and short questions help a lot

>>10282740
I get asked for cosplay advice constantly and it really varies depending on the person. If someone sounds genuinely interested, is kind, and it's clear they've done their own legwork I love answering questions and helping them along. But sometimes questions are entitled and demanding, and those go straight into the trash. Sometimes I'll laugh about the especially entitled ones with my friends but I cannot imagine making a post like >>10282411 especially when the ask itself is so innocent.

>>10282682
Listen she bought all the shitty DeviantArt photoshop packs she could from overcharging cosplayers, okay, leave her alone :P

>>10282921
Lemme guess, the mags are published through MagCloud?

>>10283195
Now I'm curious and wanna hear the really entitled ones

OP is being a dick + I WOULD tell someone that asked me what kinds of pens I write with or what kind of pans I cook with, because that's what any normal fucking halfway decent person would do.

If they're tired of people asking just put what type of lens used in your bio + don't respond to messages

A pen doesn't make a good author, a pan doesn't make a 5 star chef, and a lens doesn't make a photographer. Gatekeeping something so trivial is super annoying

>>10283213
>>10282921
>>10282796
>>10282684
>>10282679
>>10282676


I got curious enough to look at her portfolio and KEKed. Off focus and poorly lit shots with blacks and contrasts melting into each other to erase details. If she's going to act like that then she should at least learn to take photos first. KEK

>>10283831
>"Tell me how you made this. Also it has to be as cheap and easy as possible"
>"I want this item you sell but it's too much money so I want to make a copy. Can you give me instructions?"
>"How do I make /really complex cosplay that clearly requires months or years of effort/"
>Asks how to make something. Receives answer. Continues to harass for more details and handholding through the making process.

Surprising no one she posted the same two mini bitchings on twitter and only got a tiny bit of backup. Point blank just say you dont want to share your gear info, dont subtweet and post about someone who will clearly see it for asking a question. Theres a heavy possibility at some point she asked someone for advice/tips and ill bet they didnt act that way towards her. Judging from her profile pic on twitter tho it looks like some form of 50mm 1.2 from canon, but im no expert.

>>10282676
>>10282679
I shot with her several years ago and regretted it. Not only was the shoot fairly expensive for only a few photos, but all of them were badly edited to the point where it looked like photos from when I first learned how to use Photoshop. Her photography is overhyped because she happens to work with famous cosplayers and be friends with other famous photographers. It's absolutely not worth the time nor money to shoot with her.

>>10283988
Holy moly that's bad, alright I see why some of you guys are annoyed by questions. I don't have a following so I don't get ones like this

>>10283988

one of the benefits of having a tutorials patreon is telling people like that to pay up or fuck off

>>10284324
Judging by her photos she shoots for free of the "famous" cosplayers she doesn't really know too many, and the rest are just fancied up hall shots from the big cons where people are shooting with almost everyone.

I do tutorials for newbies and intermediates. I like helping people and it grows my following. Dont see the big deal. I compete, I'm not afraid of people coming for my ass because I already know they cant do shit to stop me.

>>10286673
I’ve never met a musician who didn’t love to talk about their instrument so this makes no sense.

>>10286673
If her skill is reliant on her gear, then she’s a shit photographer lmao. I knew people who took amazing photos with not so good cameras in art school. How good your camera/lenses are aren’t indicative of skill, only wealth.

>>10286673
she's dumb as fuck, a master pianist is going to sound a million times better on a grand piano than some shitty electronic keyboard

>>10286673
Why would a pianist get mad if you asked what they played on? It doesn't imply their skill level is any less at all.

>>10286673
This is stupid. Any artist worth their salt is going to choose equipment based on how it lends itself to their style. A photographer uses different lenses to help capture certain shots just like musicians probably have tone preferences.

Every genuine/friendly/passionate person I've ever met has loved gushing about their process and what they use so getting this offended just sounds like asshole gatekeeping against younger photographers who don't yet know what they're doing.

>>10282796
>>10284324
Well ChezPhoto has also publicly said that cosplayers and makers are on the same level as lewd thots. Not surprised to hear that she treats her cosplayer clientele like they're beneath her.

But meanwhile she's an "artist" with "integrity" so don't ask her about her equipment.

>>10286673
she sounds insecure af.

>>10282411
Commodification of cosplay has made it so people see all cosplaying as a competition, and now they don't want to share their "trade secrets"

>>10286931
Honestly you can tell who the genuinely talented cosplayers are by how open they are about their techniques and construction process. If you’re confident in your talent, you’d be more open to sharing how you made things to show off your skills.
I have nothing against cosplayers who make their own stuff and want to protect part of the process, especially if they plan on taking commissions for that piece, but cosplay models who try to hide which Taobao store they buy stuff from are lolworthy and cringy.

>>10282411
I like the people who act like the camera and lens doesn't matter, its all in the skill of the photographer... yet they spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on the camera and lens. If that doesn't play a big part, then why spend so much on it?
Reality is it matters a lot. cameras and lenses play a big part in how a photo turns out.

>>10282431
Instagram and Facebook are primarily the reason why i hate cosplay now
You can easily get your posts screenshot and posted saying that you copied some person you don’t even know or talk to

>>10287158
No one is saying that gear doesn’t matter. Obv a good camera makes a huge difference in the hands of a photographer. The complaint is about people who don’t think about other aspects of photography like lighting and composition.
>pic related. All are taken by the same person with a Sony A7III but the composition and editing quality varies wildly.

>>10287178
How do you know that people who ask about gear aren’t also thinking about lighting and composition, but simply choosing not to bother you about it? In my opinion I’d rather have someone ask me what lens I used for a certain photo than ask for a full walkthrough on every single aspect of the shot.

>>10287178
>No one is saying that gear doesn’t matter
just read the other examples. The person in the pic acting like a camera is equally as unimportant as scissors are to crafter and a pen to a writer.
Scissors or a pen have incredibly small amount of effect the finished product turns out. A camera has a huge effect on how a photo turns out. The biggest being true bokeh and low noise or motion blur in a dark photo.

>>10287230
>In my opinion I’d rather have someone ask me what lens I used for a certain photo than ask for a full walkthrough on every single aspect of the shot.
this. Its honestly easier to talk about your equipment and basic stuff, than trying to explaining the different lighting and angle theories that photographers use to make a picture look good. It also comes down more to personal tastes, rather than something being objectively better, like certain cameras or lenses are for certain shoots.

>>10287430

lol cosplayers literally brag about their scissors when they find a cute/sharp new pair

>>10286821
That's not even what she is implying. She's just saying they're all cosplayers, because some feel if you don't make your cosplay you aren't a real cosplayer.

Fuck you, you made me defend Chez, now I need a shower to feel clean again!

>>10288368
nayrt but she's trivializing one (both?) groups by calling cosplay just dress up. Still not a nice thing to say to cosplayers who worked hard on a costume.

>>10288368
>>10288608

If you're building a business based on cosplayers, an infamously touchy and socially touchy group, giving you money, maybe telling them to fuck off isn't a good business strategy either way.

>>10286821
Wonder what Olympic level of mental gymnastics she would go through if someone flipped the script and said that the thousands of dollars of camera equipment she refuses to disclose is the same as someone using their phone to take cosplay pictures. kek

They're only mad because they aren't the photographer, they're the model. They're mad you're giving someone else attention.

Photographers love telling you what gear/iso/f stop/lens/settings/tricks they used. Art involves a catalog of techniques.

It's only the photographers doing it for money and fame who want to keep secrets to build mystique.

People who enjoy photography ramble on and on about every technique they used.

>>10286673
OMG right?
It's like asking a Rally Car driver what shocks are on his car.... oh wait, that's completely fucking reasonable.

>>10290407
It’s this way for cosplayers too. Cosplayers who genuinely love the craft are always happy to share how they made things, what materials they used, etc.

>>10291447
This is such a dumb fucking cope, anon. Even the old saying goes "Magicians never reveal their tricks", when you've been so dedicated for years that you've developed an unique way of doing things it would be madness to give everything away to any leech asking for it.

>>10291474
>when you've been so dedicated for years that you've developed an unique way of doing things it would be madness to give everything away to any leech asking for it.

This mindset stifles creativity and ingenuity all because you made dresses and think you're a big brain for how you did it.
Just think of the corporate technological nightmare society would be birthed from Silicon Valley if everyone in the Open Source Software community had the same mindset.

"All that for a crumb of clout" ~Anonymous

>>10290407

It falls into two usually. Photographers trying to keep the secrets for themselves because they're self conscious of their own editing skills and being criticized by others who know better or they don't know how to edit and actually rely on presets, filters, and actions to do their editing and can't edit without them

>>10291474
It’s literally just a fucking lens

>>10291522
>rely on presets, filters, and actions to do their editing and can't edit without them
So literally girl in op pic? Kek

>>10291474
>Even the old saying goes "Magicians never reveal their tricks"
Yea, thats what crappy magicians say. Skilled magicians, and other skilled people, have very little problem revealing their ways because its the skill that makes them who they are, not the method.
Penn and Teller are the obvious example of this.

>>10286673
if you were looking for good information on what piano to buy then who the fuck else would you ask if not an actual pianist?

i dont get what this bitches problem is

>>10291601

Penn and Teller are a reaction to the other dude, Breaking the Magician's Code, though. More of an example for "innovate or die" after someone else already gave out half the trade secrets, rather than being the shining example of "give out your trade secrets freely and wow them with your skill", really.

>>10287178
Kek this tog must be giving terrible direction to have so many terribly posed shots by different people.

>>10286821
>cosplayers and makers are on the same level as lewd thots
Because they are...

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>>10282740
Honestly I feel the same way anon. I do help people when they ask me specific questions about specific parts of costumes but I can't stand it when I just get a message like 'how did you make ___ costume'. It's just lazy and rude.

I also agree on the admiration thing too, I've had someone literally follow a Youtube tutorial I put up in depth about a complex costume I made, only for them to not even bother giving me one hint of gratitude or even a single @ in her instagram posts that were getting thousands of more likes than my own. I mean I know its not all about that but when someone is building a brand and following off your own back without even a single hint of 'thank you' its pretty jading.

>>10282488
Yes this 100%. People don't want to do research and take time to figure things out. Everyone wants to know how to do something. Might have took hours of research. You share your information and not even a simple reply.

>>10282431
can you recommend me some cosplay forums?

>>10297640
Actual forums are rarely active nowadays unless it's like RPF but there are quite a few active facebook groups for cosplay discussion. Look around and see if there's a group that suits your interests.

Cosplay has become srs bizniz and dare I say, professional in this world of social media, e-thottery, and Nerd-Culture Industrial Complex which has never been more profitable.

10+ years ago cosplaying at cons was simply a creative outlet and a fresh way to enjoy a convention. It was less about how perfect you looked and 9 times out of 10 simply finishing the damn costume even if it was held together with an elaborate system of super glue and iron-on adhesive. The judged "competitions" were effectively meaningless and I to this day have no idea what criteria were actually used to pick a winner.

And I am just gonna say it, I miss the days when wearing a wig was optional, or a $10 plastic affair from China that sort-of looked enough like your character to work. People used to make their choices based on how easy it would be to look like a character, which is why I think Yuna was popular with her basic mid-length brunette hair and light eyes. Am I the only one who remembers "Count the Yuna" segments at cons?

>>10282411
>this entire image
As someone who both sews and cooks, I am actually autistically interested in talking about all of those things, though. I love talking about my vintage Singer, Gingher scissors, and copper coated pots and pans.

It’s not about the tools you use, it’s about how you use them. I think op was offended because the person messaging them is implying that there’s no skill in photography and that anyone who picks up the same camera/lens combo will get the same quality results. That may not be how the person meant to come off, but that’s definitely how it reads, especially when you get messages like that on a regular basis. At first it doesn’t seem like a big deal, but when you get asked that question all the time, it seems like none of them really appreciate how much work actually goes into every photo.

That being said, op definitely could have used that as an opportunity to start a serious conversation on the topic, rather than just seem like a ranting jerk

>>10297840
ok,thanks.Yeah i've been looking for forums and all the ones i found were pretty dead.

>>10282411
>>10282528
>>10282492
The lens/camera isn`t all that important when not shooting in some seriously terrible light.
All you need is some entry level mirrorless/DSLR with a kit lens (something like Canons 18-55mm) and maybe a fast prime lens (usualy about 50mm f/2 or faster, can be old as fuck).
Hell, even old SLRs can give you decent results.

The important part is that the photograph knows what he is doing and does at least some post processing.
That´s what the pic in OP is about, it`s not all about the tool, it`s about skill.
>>10282555
Yes, a real camera allows you to take better pictures because it gives you more options. (focal length, aperture, exposure time, manual focus etc.)
No, it does not magicly make you take better pictures.
As an example I can shoot pretty good pictures with a 1960s Zenit E that has costed me nothing.
Give that camera to a noob and his pictures will look worse than phone pictures as it has no automatic modes whatsoever because you need to know how to use it first.
If you know how to use it, it can do pretty much every shot a DSLR can do as well, as long as the light isn`t too bad and you need more than the equivalent of about 4k resolution.

Also:
Any somewhat recent (2010+) DSLR/mirrorless body has more than enough dynamic range, resolution and low light capability to not be a limiting factor in most shots. (excluding some night shots)
Nobody is watching pictures at a 100% crop in RAW besides photographers.
Instagram compresses the shit out of 1,3 MP .JPG images and 4K is only about 8 MP.
Nobody can see the difference between ultra high end glass and normal consumer grade stuff at that kind of resolution unless it produces shitloads of chromatic abberations or lens flares.
Same goes with lenses, yes there are some super nice ones out there and I`d lie if I said I didn`t want them, but a fast prime and a kit lens are all you need for that purpose.

>>10298009
>could have used that as an opportunity to start a serious conversation on the topic, rather than just seem like a ranting jerk
It’ll never happen because she’s a jerk in general and she has this whole thing about protecting muh super sekrit process even though her photos aren’t that good in the first place.

>>10299147
I don't get this... Everyone I know loves her photos and wishes they were good enough to shoot with her one day. I've never talked to her but is she really that bad?

>>10299166

your friends should try shooting with amiephotography or solitadphoto, photos just as good or better but nicer to work with

I get asked this all the time in lolita. "Where did you get your dress/wig/shoes/purse/camera?" I don't mind answering where I bought something to people who are followers or friends. Over half the people who ask where I bought something don't interact with me at all, unless if they're begging to know where I got things I'm wearing. It's tiring to answer, especially when all the brands are tagged in my pics

>>10286821
should change her name to riley the cunt lol

>>10299166
Riley will act nice and shit until you start asking her for corrections, like putting back a birth mark or pointing out she missed a loose thread. I've had friends that raved about her, but many changed their minds a year or two later.

>>10299166
Her photos and editing aren’t good for everyone who shoots with her. I’m a relatively no name cosplayer in comparison to her other clients and the photos I got back from her were AWFUL. We shot on a breezy day so there were some stray hairs in the picture and it looked like she didn’t even try to edit them out. The color grading, lighting, etc. were awful as well. She slapped a color filter on top of the picture so my skin was super orange and the colors of my costume were off. I had to re-edit all of my photos before posting them.

>>10287178
Lmao the dkmode head on the bowsette

>>10300855
No way this story is true, she goes crazy if you edit anything in her photos and publicly blasts you for it.

>>10301070
She doesn’t follow me on any social media and I didn’t tag her (just wrote “photo by ChezPhoto”) so she probably hasn’t seen the re-edited photos. I’d post the photos but prefer to remain anon. If she does find the photos, idc if she blasts me and blacklists me because I’m never shooting with her again.

>>10301070
I believe it if only because her photo quality has a range. I like most of her photos but feel sorry for cosplayers who pay hundreds of dollars for something like pic related.

>>10301227
>>10300708

She's too sensitive and that's all there is to it. Some people have good experiences, some have bad, and it just depends on if you accidentally "triggered" her by asking too many questions, not posing right, or not praising her enough later. She's a fine and pleasant person most of the time but is too quick to get offended for someone whose main clientele is a bunch of awkward nerds. Her twitter is full of shit like >>10282411 because she always posts every time a client annoys her.

>>10301295
Really? She can't even edit out that tiny bit of a business card slipping out of that leg strap?

>>10301802
Seriously, all it takes is one swipe with the healing tool. Leaving something so obvious in is sloppy.

>>10282679
we are in a golden age for cameras not being garbage. any modern (D3500/T7I/A5100/A6XXX) off the shelf camera is competent with a basic 50mm lens. Now yes other lenses are fun BUT get your cheap modern best buy off the shelf camera and a 50-100USD 50mm and go have fun.

>People throwing this idea around that gear doesn't matter and you can always capture portfolio shots with garbage gear.

pls stop this shit
gear matters

Tell me how in the hell I'd be able to capture a wide scene with this level of shallow DoF with the kit lens?
Or even a 50mm without having to stitch together multiple shots? I damn well will ask about what gear you used to get this kind of look.
A super wide shot with distorted buildings or lines, making everything look super tall? Yeah I'm going to wonder what lens was used.

Though not as widespread, its the same thing in regards towards location and people seemingly placing little important on location and being able to get amazing, portfolio worthy shots from literally anywhere.

>>10302525
>pls stop this shit
>gear matters
There is something inbetween using kit lens only or even bridge cameras and using high end Zeiss glass on a flagship body.
If you have a somewhat decent setup like for example:
>EF-S 10-18 super wide angle zoom (soon)
>EF-S 18-55 normal zoom ranging from wide angle to light tele with image stabilisation
>some nifty fifty, may even be vintage (Helios 44 58mm F/2 in my case) portrait with muh swirl bokeh
>entry level DSLR like EOS 2000D
or from my older collection
>Minolta X-700 film SLR I got pretty cheap
>MD 50mm F/1.7 pretty fast prime lens, much bokeh
>Tokina AT-X 60-120mm F/2.8 telezoom lens that is still pretty fast.
>some wide angle lens I don`t have
You can do pretty much anything you want in this kind of subject with that kind of gear.
Of course the latest high end body with high end lenses is better, especialy at low light, but images aren`t usualy shared in overly high resolutions way beyond 4K.
Nor do people usualy make billboard sized prints.
Technology has advanced so much in the last decade that there are pretty much no crappy DSLR/mirrorless cameras anymore.
These days pretty much any interchangeable lens body is more than up to the task of taking decent images, wide angle lenses show less sherical and chromatic abberations and vintage ~50mm primes are dirt cheap and can get adapted to modern cameras with an adapter that costs as much as a lens cap.
(I`m not trying to shill for any manufacturer, I`m just used to the Canon-ecosystem. Fuji, Nikon, Sony etc. have similar offerings of DSLR/mirrorless cameras that are just as good)
TL;DR
>some wide angle zoom lens
>some general purpose lens, idealy with image stablisation (kit lens?)
>some fast prime lens (vintage or chinkshit if you want to save money)
>DSLR/mirrorless body made after about 2010
>tripod
>camera backpack
>spare batteries
And you can do pretty much anything.

She's at it again.

>>10307660
Untalented hack that she is, she needs validation bad

>>10307660
I don't get why she keeps slapping "cosplayer" on top of her assrashed opinion as though that proves her point or like we'll get offended on her behalf.

"How dare you say that my embroidery machine that made my embroidery is amazing." -said no cosplayer ever

>>10282411
>>10299086
>there are people who think they're artists just because they use a machine to capture an image
why are women such insecure, incompetent losers?

>>10307709
100 replies and this is what you take away from this thread? Troll, please. There's enough drama in here without you helping.

>>10287178
top row is bokeh whoring if you ask /p/
but its pleasing and uses a wide aperture lens. pricey but not that hard to shoot wide open on aperture priority.
bottom row wider angle has larger DOF so not as blurry a background. gotta pose and think about the composition a bit more, which weren't dont that well on these.

I've gone through a few cameras and a few lenses I found something that im happy with when people ask and look at the price they're usually like "oh nevermind". because they think its some $500 camera and they could take the same pics.
it costs a bit more but also I knew what I wanted from the gear and was willing to spend it.
some of my compositions are crap not every shot is a master piece. but I can make pleasant images.
the person on OPs image being buttblasted over the question is a moron

>>10307716
>t. insecure, incompetent loser
must be that time of the month

>>10307724

>>10307806
>thinking a woman's opinion matters

>>10287178
>Bottom middle
What the fuck

>>10287178
The funny thing is a lot of you think the top row is great, meanwhile the first thing I even see is the blown out highlights. Art's subjective.

Basically:
>You should pay me for my product recommendations.

American capitalism.

>>10309158
Art is subjective but bottom left and middle are objectively garbage.