/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Moving this from previous general thread since it's saging; I'm archiving anon who is making a website.

Gonna specify some things:

-Yes I do know lolita resources that I will already be going through and archiving; however I'm a human being and I've been here since 2011 there are obviously going to be at least a few I've forgotten, or wouldn't think to be important unless someone else thought to mention it

-Most lolitas don't even understand what I mean when I refer to LJ, often asking what it is, much less do they know how to use it, so how would they be able to go through and find these resources? Half the links are dead anyways so it's largely useless at this point.

-How would any lolita who joined after 2014 or 2015 even KNOW about these resources when some of them closed down and stopped working even prior to that. How will they know to use the Wayback Machine for something they don't even know exists? They might not even know what the Wayback Machine IS.

-There is NO guarantee the Wayback Machine will be around forever. It's nearly 2020 and look at how many websites and website hosts have closed down since 2009. Wayback has a far smaller userbase than Wikipedia, and when WIKIPEDIA has to put giant annoying popups on every page begging for handouts just to keep afloat there is no guarantee that Wayback will be able to accomplish the same.

THOSE are the reasons I'd like to try and back up the most important things to keep them all together in one place that is easily accessible with working links that direct users to pages within the website rather than relying on external sites which might not always be around.

So please if anyone has any additional websites they want pages or sections backed up from please let me know. I might already have it on my list but it can't hurt for you to mention it just in case.

>>10312848

>>10312865
Can you please go back to the previous general or make a blog or something

>>10312866
Not a fan of the text but I do need the skirt in purple

>>10312844

This actually makes me super salty. I am still waiting for my new Honey Cake but now I'm kind of disappointed, despite being positive about the rerelease before.

I just love the quality of the older stuff, how crisp it was and kind of sturdy? I love how my dresses with the petticoat layer sit so much more than the non petti lined ones..

>>10312866
I really really want this :O

>>10312873
Pretty much none of AP's new poly pieces have built in petticoats

>>10312865
>not using >
Fuck off newfag

>>10312866
This seems like a really odd print to release during this time of year. It feels Halloweeny.

>>10312866
Do you think the skirt will be small because of that belt?

>>10312884
Anon that's not when you're supposed to use it. Stop calling people new all the time, it's boring.

>>10312866
Honestly I really like this, much better than AP’s bat cat flop

>>10312884
>telling people to use > wrongly
Bruh.

>>10312866
Does anyone knows the fabric?

Who made >>10312891?
There already was a new general for half an hour but I gotta say that thread pic is amazing...

>>10312873
That’s why I really love Cream Cookie Collection. The built in petti is so comfy and it’s perfect for casual wear too. Honey Cake is nice but it was kind of disappointing but I also didn’t expect the petti because I saw it in person. I totally forgot how thin it was in person and while trying it on (I’m the anon from the old thread) it felt like a cosplay because of the thin polyester

>>10312873
Conspiracy theory: AP made it inferior on purpose with larger sizing as a fuck you to the entitled western fatties who kept whining about a rerelease for it for years

>>10312866
looks like a Taobao dress

>>10312866
Fuggggg I need this

>>10312954
Kek it does. If this was for sale for for like 350 yuan on Taobao, everyone would be calling it tacky and ugly.

>>10312948
Nah, it’s really because people won’t pay for the cost of it to be cotton. People want lolita to cost the same as it did 10 years ago when literally everything else in the world costs more but I guess gulls don’t understand inflation. If they had to charge $250ish in 2011 to make a profit, there’s no way the can make it to the same quality and still charge the same amount now. But I don’t put this all on the consumers, used to be people were willing to fork out a ton for a new release but they’ve watered their own brand down with so many releases that people won’t pay as much. I mean it’s the same dollar amount, but now that represents a lot less buying power. That and they can’t charge too much with so many lolitas buying taobao and getting used to lower prices. Kinda the way fast fashion has ruined people’s ideas of what a properly and ethically made garment ought to cost (not saying AP is ethical, just using it as an analogy)

>>10312873
I knew it wouldn't have had the petti -a thing I do really miss about APs construction of yonderyear- as pretty much most of AP poly dresses have no built in petti (maybe it doesn't show as well under poly because you wouldn't notice an outline on cotton dresses). They started phasing them out even under cotton dresses back in 2015/2016 I think. Cirque du l'étoile and antique chocolaterie has them, but princess cat and astro regimen didn't. Also Toy Doll Box, a cotton release from last year has no built in petti either.

>>10312961
stay mad poorfag

>>10312961
Maybe. And a Dior bag without the label is just a leather purse that should only be a couple hundred bucks at most. People like certain designers and the popular ones can charge more. That’s life.

>>10312954
>>10312961
MTE. It reminds me of something Pumpkin Cat would come up with. It’s probably much better quality (even though I’ve been really unimpressed with AatP’s quality over the last few years) but still pretty tacky. 14-year-old mallgoth me would have loved it to death and worn it with stripy armwarmers.

>>10312948
They had to make it out of polyester because of the larger sizing/stretching range. Trying to gather that much cotton in the waist and would have been too thick, polyester is the only way. And larger sizing is what people asked for. They just didn’t understand the implications

>>10312954
it does kinda, I still love it

>>10312987
Oh yeah the quality lately is not good. I got the Alice in the alphabet labyrinth a couple months ago and it’s like a garbage bag. The cotton apron from that release is amazing tho

>>10312865
Also anon from previous thread, I get it now, these are valid worries. But I'd look through egl for links to very old sources like the blue period forum, avant gauche, the lolita handbook and other lj-comms with information, the most popular blogs like fyeahlolita and ParfaitDoll, and also several tumblr ask blogs like lolita-tips(even though controversial, it was still good enough for noobs). Maybe link some pinterest boards too, so they get a feel for the different styles. Honestly, I think it would be a bigger accomplishment if you'd use your energy on archiving the egl lj because it's an endless pit of info (and entertainment) that could be nuked any day now.

So does anyone think that the honeycake rerelease will pop up second hand in the west closer to retail? I’ve already seen it go on Fril for around that

>>10313003
I can see some people trying to price it for $400-500 but I think it will even out back to retail. I feel AP might do another MTO or sell a bit of excess stock too.
Unfortunately I foresee the old honey Cakes holding solid in their pre-rerelease pricing since the new ones are just too different.

Anyone getting girly room?

Anyone knows something about this one?
Its called capricious Kitty I think?

>>10312963
There is zero inflation in Japan, but higher costs elsewhere like for the factories in other Asian countries. So yes, you're somewhat right.

>>10313026
Are those plastic spiders on the garter?

>>10313033
No they're real

>>10313033
They're poms with bows

>>10312995
Thank you so much for your reply, you bring up some really good and valid points. To be honest you're super right about EGL, I had mainly been thinking of focusing on external websites but it's a good idea to save what is left. I'll definitely comb through it some more and see what I can find to back up and add to the website. If you have any specific topics in mind feel free to let me know; I'll be namely going for things like tutorials, resources compiled for research, translated essays and articles, instructions and how-tos (ie that thread on how certain things washed, although I'm fairly certain Raine has that in her clothing care database it couldn't hurt to back it up) and things like that.

Japan buyers already selling their new honey cakes, I'm still waiting on mine from my shopping service, I've gotten no responses since they're on vacation.

>>10313036
Kek

>>10313054
Nayrt but could this be of interest to you?
https://egl.livejournal.com/13215669.html
If you click any of the four links in this post, ieatedyourcooki has compiled some interesting entries from the first years of egl.

>>10313026
I don't usually like the OTT releases but I really like the sheer sleeve/faux blouse portion of this a lot. Me years ago would have obsessed over this.

>>10313060
!!! Thank you so much anon that actually helps a lot!

Anyone else still waiting for AP Usa to ship them their honey cake order? I keep seeing gulls saying theirs have arrived and I am still waiting for a tracking number.

>>10313093
yeah mine still says sourcing from Japan, I only ordered the ring and necklace too, not sure what's going on.

Perhaps they're sourcing it from multiple factories/possibly in multiple countries so they're limited to shipping out which batches come first?

>>10313095
What day of the MTO dif you order? I thought maybe they are sending orders out in the order they came in?

At first I thought it was the size of my order holding it up but as you just ordered accessories it might be that we are both waiting for the accessories to make it to AP USA?

>>10313097
6/10, so Monday.

Anyone got it from a shopping service from the japan release? Did you get it yet? If not what's the status, what did your SS say?

>>10313103
Japonica already shipped mine out to me

>>10312967
>>10312873

Weirdly enough every time I mention this to my non-lolita friends they like to point out the dress is now flatter and I can keep more of them in my closet.

My reply is usually "but they didn't drop the price for omitting the extra detail" -- but then again, I can also see some girls preferring it without the built-in petticoat. I have a bunch of cotton dresses that have them and I think they take up 3x the space, not even 2x, of the newer non-petticoat dresses. That and I worry some of them would deflate over time the way my normal petticoats do while the cotton prints are already really pale and might be fading. So the polyester dresses have that going for them at least, they might actually outlast the cotton prints, and not be stuck with a deflated stiff skirt inside them.

Anyway, not really saying no built-in petti is better, just giving food for thought since we're discussing this.

>>10313012
Based on the AP USA site, no.

>>10313054

(also nayrt) -- At least save the definition of katyusha/KC somewhere, I always see newbies asking that one. The other terms don't really seem as confusing as that particular oddity.

The other one might be to explain panniers and petticoats, since we're now in the era of underskirts and it has gotten confusing when IW and AP released "petticoats" that were really underskirts because they call petticoats panniers and apparently for us panniers is what goes on a horse or something.

>>10313120
I used to own the Twirling Ribbon OP and it was cute as heck but between being cotton and having a built-in petti, it was PITA to store. It’s the whole reason I sold it.

>>10313093
Man you guys are impatient. AP in SF has a small staff and dozens of orders. Chill, lmao

>>10312963
Do you really think these dresses cost anywhere $300 to make, cotton or not? Especially with cheap ass chinese labor? They probably cost less than $50 to make. If anything, it's appalling that AP still charges the same as it did when it made things in japan

>>10312982
"That's life" because people are stupid. I'd love to see people wearing this ugly shit and still try to put down Taobao at the same time. They'll look even dumber.

>>10313126
This entire post just screams out how uninformed you are about the cost of things

>>10313132
By "things" do you mean labor? Because no, those workers get paid less than a couple dollars per day. As opposed to Japanese workers who would get paid a fair wage of at least the legal minimum, $9 per hour. AP is making far more profit now they manufacture in developing countries.

>>10313138
I meant things, as in all of it. But please continue screeching while ignoring that the cost of literally everything is going up and has gone up everywhere over the past decade

>>10313126
>how dare companies try to make profit!
chill the fuck out it's not like AP is anywhere close to zara level

>>10313032
>Zero inflation
Please, I'm begging you to take a basic economics course

>>10313145
Your average person is about as economically well informed as a toddler.

>>10313141
Orly? Then how come other companies (lolita and normie) can make items using the exact same amount of material and it charge a hell of a lot less? Go off, corporate shill.

>>10313142
Their profit margin is insane though. Much like western designer brands I guess.

>>10313151
You must be retarded to not notice the price creep in clothing, lolita or not, over the past decade.

>>10313152
You haven't noticed that you can buy shit using the same materials (or the raw materials) directly from China for much cheaper? You don't realize that any price increase (or in this case, staying the same despite saving majorly on labor costs) is because of greed and profit on the part of brands? Yikes.

You're paying for the brand (and on print dresses, the design) nothing else. AP's prices are over 50% profit margin which is insane.

>>10313173
You are absolutely moronic. Do you really not understand what a profit margin is? Any company worth their salt has a profit margin of AT LEAST that. Holy shit. Nobody is saying they don’t make money off of selling clothes. They literally would not exist if they didn’t make money off of selling their wares. How can you be this stupid???

>>10313138
>>10313173

Honeybun, if you can do this, then do it already. Nothing's stopping you from splurging on the same materials from China for much cheaper and showing us all up with your fancy OTT Marie Antoinette dress that cost you $150 while the rest of us slop it up in our $300 dresses.

What's stopping you? Go on, do it.

>>10313175
but anon!!!! the cost of material is only $50!!! so it should only cost $50 or they ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY!!!!!!! THEY SHOULD GIVE THE DRESSES AWAY FOR FREE!!!

>>10313173
I refuse to believe that this is anything but a troll. No way you’re this stupid.

>>10313175
At this point, I'm convinced you're trolling. 20% is considered a high profit margin for any non-designer brands and even designer brands top out at 45%. Over 50% is insane (probably WELL over that, too)

If people want to pay exorbitant amounts because of the brand name, that's cool. But it has nothing to with the cost of materials or labor and could easily be sold at half the price while still making a profit.

Why am I wasting my breath on a troll tho?

>>10313182
No, it should not cost $50. But it could easily be $150 and they would still be making a good profit instead of being insanely greedy.

>>10313183
This is how I feel about you, dear.

>>10313186
>>10313185
You are clearly failing to take into account the cost of store fronts, employees in the stores, the cost of maintaining websites, etc. Or, like said earlier, you’re just trolling.

>>10313181
I could and they would be made in the same sweatshop as your AP. Do you really feel superior about that somehow? They are making Taobao-looking dresses, out of Taobao polyester and with Taobao labor, but charging far more. What's the difference besides the brand name and brand-only prints?

>>10313187
And you are not recognizing that AP has saved a literal fuckton on labor by not manufacturing in japan, which heavily increased their profit margin since they kept the prices the same. Those other costs were always there and still are, but the labor cost has down by more than 90%. They can pay nine people for an entire day's work what it used to cost them to pay one person for one hour.

What part of that don't you get?

>>10313191
Why are you crying about AP when literally all the big brands do this to similar extents? I have pieces from AP that came out this year that were made in Japan but I don’t see you bringing that up. All you’re doing is screeching like an autist about AP being muh big bad capitalist shill corp when all other lolita brands do the same shit

>>10313026
oh i adore this, i need

>>10313193
I haven't heard of other brands manufacturing outside japan, that's why. Other brands have a good reason to charge what they do. I haven't heard of any new AP dresses still being made in japan either. Maybe by "pieces" you mean things other than dresses.

>>10313195
>I haven’t heard of other brands manufacturing outside japan

Ah, yes. Thank you for confirming you are a larping troll.

>>10313190

Oh, it's not that. I tried and never found the right fabric or the right lace. There's knockoff replica lace, but it's hit-and-miss which ones are decent and which ones are stiff and annoying, and that's before you even touch the replica debate.

But you can do it. So either you can trailblaze for us and show us the way. Or you fail terribly and end up in the ita thread for your shitty handmade.

Either one is entertaining.

I mean can you really argue it's doable if you're just sitting here shitting out of your mouth? So do it, and show us the way. Please. You can see everyone else thinking you're a troll, right? The only way to really prove your point is to do it.

>>10313197
Not everyone follows/cares about every single brand. But ok. Facts are trolling now.

>>10313199
Idk what you're even talking about anymore. My point is that AP's materials and labor don't cost even half of what they charge. That's all.

>>10313201
This is a pathetic attempt to deflect from you outing yourself as a troll

>>10313206
Sure, ok. Keep that corporate shilling up, I'm sure they appreciate it.

>>10313190
even with the horrible quality decline they still look better than any taobao and anyone who owns newer AP would know that

>>10313210
The new dresses look pretty damn hideous to me.

>>10313217
>quality
>quality
keywords anon

>>10313220
>they still look better than any taobao
>look
>look

>>10313223
It still does though lmao

>>10313225
Yikes.

>>10313231
enjoy your $50 taobao dresses!

>>10313232
I'll just continue to buy ethical made-in-japan brand, thanks.

>>10313233
So, you gonna check the tags before you buy a dress?

>>10313232
imagine being this tasteless and tacky lol

>>10313280
enjoy your $50 taobao dresses!

>>10313282
Thank u, I will!

>>10313282
>what is secondhand
>what is buying older, higher quality brand pieces
enjoy your tacky overpriced sweatshop garbage

>>10313238
Most lolita brands, especially the small ones, don't get enough business to outsource. Checking tags would only be necessary for a couple of big brands.

>>10313126
Anon, I'll be a dear and list some things that also affect the price:
Materials
Logistic
Pattern development
Print design (you're paying an artist, and that's well deserved expensive)
Fabric sampling
Sampling in general
Photography
Marketing
Branding
Models
Rent
Wage of your workers
Bills of the store and studio
And so on.

I'll suggest that you read a bit about how this industry works. This is not a department store.

>>10313308
>how this industry works
You mean how other brands that are made-in-japan charge the same or less than AP, despite AP having much cheaper labor and therefore much higher profit margins? The fact that AP is both unethical and greedy?

I'm a broken record at this point, you are going to believe what you want to believe. Whatever helps you feel better about paying so much for things made with slave-wage labor I guess.

>>10313310
You ignored everything I said and just parroted yourself again, anon.

Get each item of the list and then try estimating the minimum cost for the brands you're comparing. Don't forget that AP has overseas stores when making that calculation. Also, try guessing the value of the designers from AP and designer from, let me see, MihO Matsuda.

Good luck, and it's no shame to learn something new once in a while.

>>10313295
friendly reminder that all the MAM ive bought in the last few years have had "Made in Japan" tags.

Please consider supporting them! Their stuff is so quality but their horrendous stock photos are a disservice to them

>>10312884
KEEEEEEKKKK

>>10313103
My shopping service is on vacation and I won’t get it until February

>>10313209
bruh your on a board filled with people who glorify consumerism, do you think we curr??? Oh no my feefees I'm a capitalist shill :^)

>>10313292
based

>>10313093
No word from AP USA or mintkis

>>10313095
I got the jewelry from AP USA and I haven't heard anything. I assume it's as >>10313097 suggested and the accessories aren't ready yet, so they're shipping out orders that only had the JSK or JSK+headbow first, and waiting on the rest.

Have there been any posts showing the new jewelry and bags, from Japan or elsewhere? I'm curious if it's just the clothing items that are ready (especially since my set from the LaForet release includes the bag - I used Muuh as my SS so I haven't heard anything yet).

>>10313363
I saw both the bag and necklace listed on Fril the other day. Assumed it was from the MTO and not the rerelease.

>>10313363
I saw someone posting about getting their bag in on insta

>>10313370
>>10313369
Awesome, thanks! Should have searched insta rather than asking here, duh.

>>10313288
great!

>>10313292
enjoy your $50 taobao dresses!

>>10313217
looks like AP has gone...

>>10312866
This is awful...

>>10313217
Looks like AP has gone...*insert word(s) here* and the only way to continually make dresses that will flop is by making mass-produced MTO, such as the more recent iconic pieces~ Honey Cake

>>10312866
Damn I hate these. WTF happened to AatP anyway? Up to 2012 they made lovely things, really nice prints too but now it looks like shitty clip art.

>>10313405
>Looks like AP has gone...*insert word(s) here*

Not too much, they are just failing at stock photos. Many of their pieces still look good irl. Look for photos of actual lolitas wearing those.

>>10313120
Obviously polyester will last longer than cotton, it's plastic. But I'll take cotton aesthetic over plastic lasting forever any day.

The built in petti isn't necessarily only for poof, it's also so the fabric drapes properly over a petti. It actually matters less for the thick cotton they use and matters more for the flimsy polyester.

It seems the Honey Cake jewelry scalping has begun. Unless the ring really cost 65€ during the MTO and I didn't notice.

>>10313438
That seller overprices literally everything by an insane amount so

>>10313438
This seller is a known scalper

>>10313438

I almost regretted not getting the jewelry and bag but I may sell my JSK and headbow for retail if the viyella is as bad as some anons think in person...

>>10312884
halloween is a year round thing. You reek of normie.

>>10313338
I don't disagree with you but you come off like a big ass hat.

>>10313433
>But I'll take cotton aesthetic over plastic lasting forever any day.
Even when the print fades? Or do you conveniently not buy prints?

>>10313481

Nayrt but I don't mind the colors softening over time if I get the benefits of cotton. The poly they are using just isn't great.

>>10313455
I doubt it's bad. For the most part, AP's viyella is fine. This board is filled with roleplayers who won't stay in containment threads.

>>10313482
Yeeeeah this is a LARPer

>>10313495

>acknowleding and accepting the flaws of cotton but still preferring it over polyester makes someone a larper

Some people just prefer certain fabrics over others due to skin sensitivity or general likes and dislikes. I don't think clothes showing normal signs of wear is awful and would still prefer cotton to the sheen their particular poly dresses give off as I prefer totally matte fabrics. I'd even take a blend of poly and natural fabric or something. I just don't like the sheen. Otherwise I would be fine with poly.

>>10313495
God forbid someone's Lolita wardrobe looks like actual clothes that get worn regularly

>>10313186
What is overhead
What is bulk pricing (or lack thereof)
Please take a fucking business course or show us some of AP's financial statements to back up your claims if you're going to run your mouth

>>10313338
A lot of people on here claim to hate fast fashion/unethical production, but when AP does it, it's suddenly ok. Interesting

>>10312848
I feel like Lolita really does not work if you're fat, yet all the lolitas I see are super fat.

I'm surprised they even make dresses in these sizes.

>>10313282
nayrt but i wonder what people think "$50 taobao dresses" look like? here's a recent release for example, are you going to pretend like it's not gorgeous?

>>10313537
Can't see the dress through all the filters

>>10313537

Similar to some newer AP poly; it looks okay in photos especially the brand's photos but irl a lot of taobao is disappointing quality. But it all depends on the taobao shop.

>>10313406
I miss old AatP :( The old Vampire prints are perfect

>>10313481
Yes even if the print will fade over time. Why is this so hard to believe? Your plastic won't look pristine forever either with it shedding microfibers every wash.

>>10313546
Back then people also said the exact same thing "I miss old AatP, the old vampire print was perfect" when they released new vampire prints. Maybe you are just getting old and don't understand what young lolitas want

>>10313455
From what I’ve seen in close up pictures it looks similar to the fabric for fancy candy which wasn’t so bad

>>10313537
Taobao prints always look off to me desu. They have great concepts but there's always something wrong with the art/colors. Those unicorns are wonky as fuck

>>10313554
Maybe.. I'm curious whats considered a young lolita?:D
All I see in my comm is the want for AP only

>>10313125
We have waited for 6 months, expecting a bit more communication from AP USA since they said they would update us "in a few days" almost 2 weeks ago isn't asking for much. It gets concerning to see others are receiving their items (and infuriating that scalpers are already reselling theirs) before we have any confirmation what we ordered and paid for is actually arriving. We know the SF store is small with few staff, but they could easily send out a mass email or something to people who are waiting explaining that they are working on it and to please be patient.

>>10313543
quality wise yeah, can't disagree with that. but in terms of looks and design, a lot of the recent taobao just looks cuter than newer ap (sadly enough)

>>10313482
what are the benefits of cotton? I have cotton dresses and poly ones and there isn't much of a difference other than the print on the cotton one is fading big time which, makes me sad. If you can't see the print anymore what is the point of having it on the dress?

>>10313578
Nothing really in lolita. In normie clothes it breathes better when you sweat but when you are covered in layers of poly petti and blouses under the dress it doesn't matter. Just wrinkles more and dries slower

>>10313537
>are you going to pretend like it's not gorgeous?
they do that cause it's popular board culture to be contrarian no matter what the board topic is. So many of these threads are filled with people who just are here to talk shit and get people upset and they probably don't wear the fashion. Or they do and they're the bitter quiet ones you see at meets who consistently check their phone and I guarantee you they're checking cgl.

>>10313549
I wonder how long you have had your wardrobe. I've had mine for 5 years now and the poly ones have outlasted the cotton ones in only 5 years.

>>10313582
yeah, I don't get the cgl quality meme at all.

>>10313578
>>10313584
Nayrt but about how many times a month have you worn/washed your cotton prints that caused them to fade? I've only been into lolita for 2 years and I'm worried about fading

>>10313588
I wear sugary carnival maybe once or twice a year and it's faded badly over just 3 years of owning it.

>>10313588
I wear all of my dresses very often. I'm not daily but I definitely dress up 3 - 4 times a week. I have 30 dresses in total and over time, I started wearing the poly ones more because they're easy to wash, they dry fast and the prints haven't faded at all since I've gotten them in comparison to some I got 5 years ago that are definitely fading now.

Just save your cotton ones for special occasions. I do that with stuff like Holy Lantern cause I know washing it is going to eventually kill it but it does take years for it to be impacted.

I would say if you want to be a daily lolita and you have a hard on for cotton for some reason, I'd go for non print cotton dresses.

>>10313582

HAHAHA. I love this. I don't think most of these cotton butt wipers really think that through.

I have both poly and cotton dresses but who gives a fuck I live in Texas where it's gonna be hot whether I wear shorts and a tank top or full lolita. Fuck it vato

>>10313565
If that's your example for taobao looking cuter than AP, you must be fucking blind.
Even this ugly ass release is nicer than the trash you posted.

>>10313588
>>10313589
I've owned a few AP cotton prints in the past and agree, they did fade noticeably with washing. My Baby and Meta prints, on the other hand, have not.

>>10313591
Yeah it's hot where I am and honestly poly + hoopskirt is the tits, especially with a thin half blouse. I like that it dries fast so I'm not sitting in a bodice trapping in sweat forever. Cotton with poly lining seems to trap sweat so bad

>>10313565
Wtf is that? A garbage bag made of kilts?!

>>10313584
I've had mine for also 5 years. Take care of your clothes.

Happy NY /cgl/. You’re all a bunch of petty cunts but I probably would have become an hero if not for this hell hole.

>>10313639
>become an hero

Umm... learn English lol.

>>10313647
Bless your little heart

>>10313647
Look at this dude

>>10313647

>>10313647
Welcome to 4channel newnigger.

>>10313652
WOW can you please go be r*cist somewhere else? Scum.

>>10313649
>>10313650
>>10313651
Haha, I know that grammar nazis aren’t smiled on but I couldn’t help it ^^;; gommen ne?

>>10313578
Personally I find cotton absorbs sweat more comfortably for me but you can probably just wear a cotton blouse to mitigate the polyester dress issue.

>>10313533

>>10313639
right back at you, anon!

>>10313655
>can't tell if incredibly new or just trolling
Either way, happy New Year, newfag.

>>10313647
Topkek

>>10313554
Nayrt JP teens are buying To Alice, western teens buy whatever is sold on my lolita dress or amazon/ebay/wish. I'm at 21 buying all AatP vampire prints in that structured cotton that I find within my budget

Why would you add lace over the border print?
>I knew Glitter Tale has no taste but geez

>>10313712
Is that straight line under the top loops of the lace the seam that fastens it to the fabric or part of the lace?

>>10313718
Part of the lace. This lace is designed to thread a ribbon through.

>>10313712

This has to be one of the whackest things I've seen in a while. Even the lace on the chest, the straight side is meant to be sewn underneath a fold (like a hem or pintuck). The straight side of the edge is particularly utilitarian so that it's easy to sew on that way and looks really ugly once you get close enough to see it.

The border lace doesn't even make sense, like could it not be lowered a little bit and make absolutely no difference except the designer doesn't look like such a noob who doesn't know how to use lace.

>>10313720
On one hand the sewing wasn't as bad as I thought, on the other hand the design was even worse

>>10313533
ok.

I'd like a bit of advice. I purchased a Milky Berry in white that the red part of the print has run on in a few places. I've already checked blogs and old LJ posts for information on how to get it out without running the print further, but I figured I'd ask here too. Does anyone have experience fixing prints that have run a bit?

>>10313823
I don’t have experience but I’ve got a bleeder I bought for ¥500 I’ve been mean to try to bleed out using a quilting tutorial fix for running dye.

But honestly, your dress being both white and a border print makes me think you might be fucked. My dress is an overall pattern (Baby’s Sugar Bouquet) so I think if the dye runs at least evenly it will be acceptable.

>>10313790
That girl's Instagram is sad

>>10313830
its sad how it started with food and sweets and ends with her being sick

>>10313830
what is it

Do you ever see these types of super expensive, super extravagant dresses for sale, and wonder about the type of person that would buy them? Do they buy them just to resell? If so, that's QUITE the risk they're taking. Did they buy it for an actual wedding, and now they don't want it?

>>10313850
A lot of the time I find the owners just wore them once (not for a wedding though, but just because) and then are selling them off because they're satisfied and/or don't have the opportunity to wear it more often. I don't think people are buying these to resell most of the time. The only exception I can think of at the moment is Shanghai Doll.

>>10313853
Shanghai doll isn’t nearly at the cost range of these though..

>>10313856
Sorry about that. All I remember was people selling them for a really high price so I assumed it was an expensive dress to begin with. But I guess they were just scalping.

>>10313850
I feel like it's mostly conlolitas, why don't you ask girlytoots/bitchydoll?

>>10313850
we had one of them in our comm, the bought it, wore it once and sold it.

>>10313828
Thankfully the issue areas are primarily on the shoulders and waist ties, rather than near the hem so I'm hoping to be able to save it. Do you have a link to that quilting tutorial for running dye that you mentioned? Thanks!

>>10313850
There’s a girl in my comm who regularly buys these types of dresses, wears each of them once to an event and then spends the next few years trying to sell them at swap meets.

Reminder that photobucket raised a massive red flag for dataloss for over 2 weeks now. If there are for example any daily-lolita posts you want to save and that are still visible, you should do it now.

>>10313850
I'd buy Mariee de Kumya as a wedding dress, but I don't have a wedding. Ripperoni pepperoni

>>10313833
Hanikami_bear

>>10313945

She didn't look bad from photos with covered arms and her legs just seemed like she was lanky thin but the one photo itt with exposed arms is a little sad/concerning.

>>10313637
so what's the trick to making prints not fade on cotton?

>>10313658
>I find cotton absorbs sweat more comfortably for me
holy shit you must either reek or you just smell so fucking strongly of deodorant.

>>10313973
no, she doesn't wear stuff that is flattering to her body at all so it all looks baggy and you can tell the sleeves are too big around her fucking tiny arms.

>>10313998
It's all in how you wash and wear your clothes anon. Personally I handwash in sections based on the fabric type and colors used. I generally avoid the skirt portion unless it's necessary. I only have had issues with dresses being faded or dye has bled when buying them secondhand. Thankfully I could at least save the one that bled.

>>10313938
I'm sad I didn't get to save dswpunk's pictures. She had such a huge influence on me at the time, but I'm too late! But faunkegin's pics are still up and I'm currently going through them.

Yeah, I used to love the Oregon lolitas. They where lovely.

I wanted to buy a bunch of stuff from closetchild the other day. The automatically calculated shipping fee was huge based on their average weight estimates but I know for a fact the items I got are a lot lighter than those estimates.
Does closetchild pay back the difference in shipping cost after packing and weighing or am I out of luck on this one?

>>10313790
Anorexia

>>10313999
Nayrt but you're retarded. I live somewhere that has 8 months of summer and if I wear anything synthetic when it's genuinely hot outside I get disgustingly sweaty and smelly whereas natural fibers actually breathe

>>10313999
...do you never sweat, somehow?

>>10314067

>>10314038
You're out of luck

>>10313658
>>10314046

Most of the dresses are lined with poly anyway, especially the AP stuff that anons like to whine about. So it makes no sense to prefer cotton when the cotton is also lined with poly. That, plus you'll also be wearing a (usually also poly) petticoat underneath, too.

That is, unless the anons don't even wear burando and don't know this. Which is what makes them a good target for sniping at, I guess.

>>10313999
You can believe what you want, but you don’t have to have excessive body odor or sweating to enjoy how cotton feels on a hot day. The synthetics typically used in lolita can trap moisture so it stays on your skin rather than wicking it away. And it doesn’t take buckets of sweat for natural fibers to feel better than synthetic.

>>10314046
Maybe shower more, sweat doesn't smell when you're clean.

>>10314081

I mostly wear BABY because of how easily I sweat in synthetics and how much I like the feel of their older cotton stuff; they don't always line their bodices so the parts of my body that are sweaty don't touch polyester (wearing a dress means my legs can breathe even if I'm wearing a petti). Plus while I don't own one, cotton pettis do exist if you are a leg/crotch sweater anyway so the cotton petti would protect from a poly or satiny skirt lining that might feel sweaty otherwise.

Preferring non poly on the outside of the dress for me is more about the look. I don't even like actual satin or nice materials that have any shine to them. It makes my clothes feel like a costume. Dresses like Dream Cat Go Round or Dream Bear are undesirable to me because of the way the poly makes them shiny/shimmery.

That's part of what I am nervous for with HC. I have never seen any poly AP dresses that weren't chiffon in person so I'm worried I will hate the look and have to eat the shipping cost and resell it if it's bad enough.

>>10314087

Nayrt but this is untrue. I have to use antiperspirant deodorant in summer because as soon as I leave the shower the second I begin to sweat it will smell. Not terrible or anything but unpleasant enough that I'd rather clog my pores with aluminium just in case than worry I'm bothering others with my smell.

>>10314089

>Preferring non poly on the outside of the dress for me is more about the look

You're fine then. It's mostly anons talking about poly dresses, especially AP, as if they don't know it's still lined in poly either way that seems to set off the name-calling.

Wish you luck on Honeycake (it wasn't my thing so I didn't preorder it, I'm very happy for all the anons who are finally getting their DDs though). To deal with poly, the other anon that suggested a cotton blouse has it right, and if you want to go further, get a cutsew to wear underneath -- the t-shirt material really helps to redistribute body heat. Half my wardrobe is AP and I live in the tropics, admittedly I mostly lolita with air conditioning but I think it's not really that big of a deal if you can already deal with petticoats. The major one is still whether your blouse is synthetic or cotton, that one goes a long way towards breathability rather than the poly-lined jsk you throw over it.

>>10314087
That's not how sweat works...

>>10313832
She deleted her old insta and added some of her pic into the new one. She had food pics when she was ana chan before too. Believe it or not, but she used to look more like a skeleton than now

>>10314089
Who tf is wearing a cotton petti? Also not all of AP's polys are chiffon. You clearly haven't been paying attention

>>10314100

I wasn't saying they were. I have just never owned any of their non-chiffon poly and, as I said, not seen them in person before. I am not super active in my comm so I don't see dresses in person on others often. Their chiffon poly doesn't have a the shiny look to me actually, just this viyella or whatever has been used in so many of these last few releases.

>>10314098

Yeah I'm evolving to the point that I am sick of blouses and I may just switch to cutsews exclusively since I wear cardigans and boleros a ton anyway.

>>10314038
They've always refunded me for shipping overcharge, usually happens any time I buy multiple dresses

>>10314046
I'm not retarded. I have worn normie cotton clothes and sweated in them. It reeks when people sweat in cotton, or they just really smell like whatever deodorant they're wearing which also isn't great.

>>10314083
You sound like an ad or something, there's nothing that actually wicks sweat away. It's either on your skin or in your clothing or both.
I guess you've never gone running in a white cotton shirt?

>>10314081
Not to mention the amount of sweat that builds up under a petti.

>>10313973
This is one of the problems with how much we love thinness in this fashion. Eventually people can't tell who the obvious anas are and they get a lot of admiration even though they are killing themselves. See several of the most popular lolitas on IG. This girl is only hated on because her styling is so terrible, I can think of at least three girls who are almost as skinny as her who are widely beloved.
>inb4 fatty
I'm not fat, being obese is almost as bad as being ana. The almost there is only because it's easier to fix fat than ana and being obese usually kills you slower.

>>10314138
The only ana lolitas I know are this girl and Spiro. Who else is there? Ana is sad, but I still think our society as a whole excuses obesity far too much. /cgl/ veers too much in the other direction but I hope we can one day equally condemn both.

Do any of you remember the Novala story Emily about the girl who was an ETC super-fan and she fell in love with this boy who was also a brandwhore but for Super Groupies or something, and then he turns out to be gay but he like eats her out anyway?
Man what was with that story?
Like what was the point, what was it trying to say, just what???

>>10314165
Is there a .pdf of this anywhere? I don't really want to track down a paper copy just to read for laughs.

>>10314173
I have it on the kindle app but I think there was a pdf floating around at one point

>>10314099
Use better soap babe https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/17865-sweating-and-body-odor

I often get the impression that the concept of community vastly changed since the old LJ era. We used to have so many translators and news posters at that time, but nowadays I can hardly find new translated content in English.

>>10314165
all his work is like that though. what the hell was with his fucked up submission in so prettty/very rotten about the preferences of Japanese vs western pedophiles? dude is not ok

>>10313537
only half decent taobao dress..try again anon. post another one thats not shit.

>>10312848
AATP has lost their touch. Their dress looks so cheap

>>10314175
Bacteria still builds up over the day, dear anon. You stink.

>>10314218
I’m not disagreeing with you, but they might just be targeting that market to see how it goes. It’s hard to accept changes in the fashion but the brands that don’t change with the trends don’t stick around.

>>10314207
The only good parts of So Pretty Very Rotten were the one about the two lolita friends who are totally not in love and end up doing an interview, and "Your and my mistakes", which should honestly be more of a must-read to western lolitas than Kamikaze Girls.

The AP teaparty happened in December but we still have no better images of the releases shown. WTF

>>10313369
if its the necklace listing im thinking of, (https://item.fril.jp/332025d318ae7b067f65938dab8dbb09))
that was was before the rerelease was even out in japan

>source: my dumbass forgot to buy accessories for honey cake during the MTO

>>10314173
There isn't a good translation

>>10314205
People are shamed for being too weeby and liking people like Novala and jpop so they don't learn Japanese anymore

>>10314227
I can't find that book, can you link it, or tell us the author's name?

>>10314324
I also think the internet has made it a lot easier to not learn these skills and rely on subpar translation apps and such

>>10314331
Imagine being this new

>>10314140
MK is also well known and denies being ana but I've seen her at meets and she doesn't eat so I doubt she's not ana and probably gets by just eating very small meals.

I follow a few other girls who are definitely skinny and frail but they're not well known. cgl definitely calls thin girls cows though which is the fucking problem.

>>10314331
What the - did you even Google??

>>10314331
The title is literally "So Pretty, Very Rotten". It's by An Nguyen and Jane Mai.

BTW anyone know anything about the authors? Not trying to stir drama, I've just never heard anything about them.

>>10314348
Then you’re new. They were very involved in the LJ/EGL scene and even apart of the Tokyopop/English GLB team.

>>10314227
The whole book was very underwhelming

>>10314359
I joined when Tumblr was huge and I was never that into LJ. I'm not a complete noob, but I'm not an oldfag either.

>>10314375
Ignore them. Some anons love to flaunt being an ~oldfag~ as if it somehow gives them more lolita cred. If you've been into the fashion since Tumblr got big, that's still about eight years on the low end, so I wouldn't call you new by any stretch of imagination.

>t. 2007 oldfag

>>10314205
I don't translate anymore because there's no place to post it. It's shameful but I like getting feedback and asspats for doing it, not just sending it off into the abyss.

>>10314412
I'm sure you'd get that on Facebook

All the older wardrobe posts have their photobucket pics wiped. Sad feels

>>10314412
Post on Facebook with a link to a Google doc. Hell, post on mangadex.

>>10314324
This makes me weirdly sad. I'm only 20 but I still had my weeb preteen phase where I learnt basic Japanese. A lot of my friends did too, we were all 12-15 teaching ourselves that stuff.

Now when I meet new lolitas irl who are a few years younger than me they barely even know how to order clothes from Japanese sites, let alone translate things. I offer to help them but a lot of them are just content with using overpriced taobao resellers for their whole wardrobes and complain Japanese brand is too hard to get. They're not interested.

I think it's a mix of being able to use SS, resellers and bad translators for everything, and the wave of shaming any kid who watches even the most entry level anime. Also Kpop has definitely taken over Jpop in the west, so the kids who would be interested in learning Japanese now learn Korean instead.

Just a thought... if this year it is going to be year of the rat, do you think we will finally get a rodent themed dress? Brands have made zodiac prints in the past

>>10314424
AP has a mouse mascot they use frequently wyb

>>10314412
Look,i'll praise you all you want. Fuck,i'd praise every single translator personally if i could,we need people like you,you're very important to communities like lolita

>>10314423
Me too, anon. It's a sad feel. My weeb days were fun, even if they were cringey. I'm 25 but one of my goals is to start taking Japanese lessons this year... But I'm really scared I won't be able to learn much because of my age and because I get discouraged easily.

>>10314380
This was so heartwarming, I keep coming back to read it. Thanks, 2007 oldfag. You're a good person

>>10314412
Post on LJ. Link it fucking everywhere: on rufflechat and on here and on Amino. Hell, if you're too ashamed to share it around, put in a sentence at the end like "feel free to share this wherever you want" and I'll share it around for you. Our culture is so stagnant at the moment, we really need new info and content.
>also if you want a copy of Kamikaze Girls's sequel I would totally pay for one as long as you translated it

>>10314140
Somehow I never noticed that Spiro is ana, I always thought she was just really petite

>>10314438
She did a 10 year review on insta and it was very obvious. She is in her 30s now so it isn’t just getting out of puberty

>>10314438
She literally posted her weight a whole ago and in the same story posted about feeling fat. Also I heard that she only eats soup. I love her coords but that poor lady is ana for sure.

>>10314445
Does eating only soup work?

>>10314458
You're filling yourself up with mostly liquid so you feel full faster.

>>10314458
Depends on the soup and the soups that are low cal enough WILL give you terrible diarrhea. 0/10 do not recommend.

>>10314464
Soup is already low cal as it is anyways, so I don't know what kind of soup you are having. It's also easy to make in large batches on your own.

>>10314473
>soup is low cal
the broth maybe.

why tf would someone buy these for 150 + 7 usd when they're still in stock for 4,620 yen/ea + ~2,000 yen EMS? I mean, congrats to the seller, but what madlad decided to pay 50% markup?

Does the Japan baby store deliver directly to US residents or do I need a SS/to special request through the USA store?

>>10314205
Yeah, I follow only one blog that regularly posts translations, but it's not even to English anymore.
Anon >>10314412 please do make a make a blog or tumblr or even Medium and post your translations, I swear I'll share it with the world if possible.

>>10314175
From the website you linked:
>Wear clothing made of natural fibers (wool, cotton or silk) that allow the skin to breathe.

Retard

>>10314474
unless you're eating chowder, soup is low cal. even a hearty soup is a more low cal alternative to eating anything else. it's a favorite of lowcal forums

>>10314138
Social media has made the western jfashion obsession with thinness way worse. Back in the day there were plenty of average sized girls who managed to get well known and were loved for their coordinates. Now thanks to the intersection of tumblr proanas and the ddlg community, most popular jfashion girls on insta are super skinny waifs. Anzujammu would've never gotten popular if she never had super stick legs and a thigh gap. Every post yurinaoto has is basically just thinspo.

It also feels like lolita models have gotten thinner. Misako is thin but she isn't as thin as Risa, who is borderline spoppy with APs stuff extremely baggy on her.

>>10314543
>lolcow forums

lol i meant proana forums.

>>10314513
Baby's japan online shop ships internationally. This belongs in the stupid questions thread.

>>10313123
Duly noted, I'll definitely notate that somewhere haha. Thank you!!

Received Honey Cake today! I knew the generous sizing would make a difference, but man. I have a 98 cm bust and this JSK fits like a dream compared to even other 100+ cm ones from AP. I was nervous because I've tried IW JSKs with similar sizing in the chest and the fit was god-awful. Bodice type really makes a difference I guess.

>>10314545

Thanks; I asked there first but noticed the thread was autosaged and figured it'd be easier to get a response here.

>>10314554

I'm jealous anon, mine hasn't arrived yet; it still says sourcing from Japan.

>>10314560
Sorry to hear that you are also waiting for AP to give you a tracking number. It's been 2 weeks, they should say something to those of us who are still waiting.

>>10314563

AP USA said to expect our items in January I think, so I'm not in a hurry. I feel worse for those who paid extra for SS from Japan and are getting theirs late because of people on vacation or AP Japan being bad at sending updates.

>>10314533
AKA not old AP which is cotton lined with poly, or petticoats made of poly. I'm the anon who's figured out how to wear poly and not smell bad so not sure how that makes me a retard when all you muh natty fibers bitches think you can't wear it without smelling

>>10314560
It was hilarious that some anon said that they would be receiving dresses faster than people who used a SS. But they’re all coming in January for everyone

>>10314563
So many people in the same state as me have gotten it and here I am with ‘sourcing from Japan’

>>10314501
A dumb newbie who doesn’t know you can still buy from Japan

>>10313582
>what are cotton bloomers and blouses

>>10313999
Ntayrt but plastic fibres soak up scents. That includes body odours. If you sweat in a poly shirt just once through deodorant, it'll smell like cat piss forever even after a dozen washes.
Man I fuckin hate polyester.

>>10314652
What the fuck are you eating? I’ve never been unable to get a smell out of my poly pieces

>>10314652
so basically, you don't know how to do laundry properly

>>10314653
I find it smells ok after a wash but gets "reactivated" and comes back in full force if I sweat again even a little. I've confirmed the same thing with other people so I know it's not just me. I started wearing only cotton and wool and have zero issues now.

>>10314657
You should take a look at your diet. People who consume a lot of strong smelling foods consistently tend to have issues like you’re describing. Particularly garlic and onions, but any strong spices can do it

>>10314658
>>10314657
Oh, people who eat a lot of meat/dairy can have this issue too

>>10314658
Yeah I've noticed the onion thing after eating a meal with them. Honestly it's gotten a lot better since switching deodorants too so it isn't a concern any more, but when I was having more sweating issues, artificial fabrics really brought it out is all.

>>10314652
>>10314657

Try baking soda in the wash itself, followed by a rinse with vinegar in it. Depending on the piece, as high a a temperature as it'll stand, ie- wash with hot water (if it won't kill your item) and dry it under full sun (just the one time). There's a reason for the stereotype of hanging laundry out in the sun, between the heat and the UV it does kill bacteria.

Can't do much if it's your diet that's repeatedly causing you to soak more "smelly" sweat into the poly, but if you really want to "clean" the smell out of poly one time, this should do it.

>>10314666
Thanks, I appreciate the advice. I know the vinegar trick, but I haven't tried baking soda or leaving things in the sun.

>>10314666
>>10314668

I guess this is needless for the oldfags, but in case the newbies are reading this -- leaving things out in the sun will bleach/fade your items, maybe even cause them to break down.

The sun's basically a really strong microwave. Wear sunblock, everyone.

Yeah vinegar or baking soda by themselves are ok, but combine the two and it works much better. Maybe it's the pH flip-flop that does it, idk.

>>10314565
AP paris have dispatched my yellow jsk and headbow and should be arriving today. I also ordered the ivory as a set with the jewelry and bag via SS when the mto was announced but have had no updates yet because they're on vacation, so I probably won't see that til mid January at the earliest- It kinda sucks but I just gotta be patient now

>>10314424
i hope so, i'm all for rat acceptance.

>>10314071

Is Wunderwelt Libre up for you guys?

>>10314434
Why would your age matter? I’m in my 30s and learning multiple new languages. You can do it. The people that say it’s too hard don’t understand work ethic

>>10314781
Nayrt but it's harder to learn new things when you're older bc of brain plasticity. It's best to do when you're a child and ok to do as a teenager when your brain is still developing. Being older doesn't make it impossible if you put in the work, just takes more effort

beautiful

>>10314809
CTP is that you?

>>10314809
Print: adorable
Cut: trash
Are there any other cuts?

>>10314781
>>10314784
There’s supposedly evidence that learning a new language as an adult actually helps increase/maintain brain plasticity as you age though, so that’s all the more reason to not give up just because you’re not a teen anymore.

>>10314817
There are

>>10314765
nope, offline since last year.

>>10314832

>>10314832
>>10314809
That pretty print did not deserve these terrible cuts

>>10314809
There were better pics to share, anon

>>10314867
This store has some ridiculously cheap dresses with cute designs. Too bad it's not cotton.

>>10314867
Oh fuck me that IS adorable
>poly tho

>>10314869
>>10314867
>>10314832
is this an ad?

>>10314880
They're from their weibo, but I don't know if they're the same used on their ads, anon.

>>10314879
>>10314869
when has there ever been a cotton printed taobao dress, what are you expecting, and why are you shilling shitty cheap dime a dozen taobao

>>10314883
>when has there ever been a cotton printed taobao dress
Miss-Point, HM, Yolanda, Amastacia, Akane&Alois have all printed on cotton in the past, anon. I see you have no idea about what you're talking about.

>>10314888
don't spoonfeed the noob.

>>10314888
A&A still consistently releases cotton printed pieces.

>>10314888
>not being able to see the quality difference between those brands and this garbage
i see you have shit taste

>>10314888
Which yolanda prints are cotton? I have two polyester printed dresses from them I like

>>10314883
I have a cotton dress from Catsbroom...

>>10314896
Nayrt but Berry river is cotton. It’s actually really nice, but wrinkles a bit more easily than my brand cotton dresses.

>>10314867
i gotta admit that's cute at first glance but... they pretty much just redrew cat's tea party lol

Well gulls I tried to give new HC a chance and it was a massive disappointment. Selling now for retail so I will at least only be out shipping costs.

The look of the viyella wasn't as bad as expected but I put it on and immediately hated the way it felt on me...I'll just save up for the original I suppose. Why couldn't they have rereleased it in cotton like the other rerelease?

>>10315004
Link to sale?

>>10314883
Lmao what
I just think the print is cute man

>>10315048

It sold already (I stopped checking this thread once we had a new general but it sold before your post)

>>10314833
So weird since they recently made a post on Mihara Mitsukazu and shared the link, but I can’t open it as well.

>put in order to SS last night, just after they close
>whoops just have to wait til tomorrow
>normally when this happens it's done by the time i'm awake
>4pm
>nothing, item is still in stock so it's not like they bought it and forgot to email

D-did they lose my email... I really don't want to shell out the amount again to get another SS to do it.

>>10315204
>just emailed back saying the other item I asked for sold out (that's fine, was super cheap) and gave refund literally 10 minutes after I sent in the order
>STILL haven't responded about my other item or bought it

Yeah okay they lost it. Fucks sakes. I don't want to look like an asshole for asking about it but I think I'm going to have to.

>>10315209
Is it for mercari or something? In that case it might be that they are emailing first to see if they are allowed to buy it.

>>10315051 new thread

>>10314671
>combine vinegar and baking soda
I can tell this anon has never made a classroom volcano.

>>10315683

So just to make it clear again.

>baking soda in the WASH cycle, with the detergent
>vinegar in the RINSE cycle.

Don't put them both in the same cycle, you might as well wash your clothes with salt if you wanna do that.