/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10396440
>How do you define “brand whore”?
Someone who consider a wardrobe of mainly or mostly brand to be better than an off brand filled wardrobe
>Do you think it’s a negative thing?
It can be depending on how they act about it but no, not really
>Do you identify as one, jokingly or otherwise?
I don’t tell people I am one but I’m sure people would think I am if I was honest
>What lolitas do you consider to be brand whores, past or present
Most older lolitas of note seem to be brand whores even if they don’t say it. There’s a reason why they don’t have a closet filled with taobao

>How do you define “brand whore”?
Someone who exclusively or near exclusively purchases brand items
>Do you think it’s a negative thing?
No. It's a negative trait only if it impedes relationships/interactions (someone who can't stop themselves from criticizing others solely due to branding. But at that point you have to wonder if they have issues recognizing social cues)
>Do you identify as one, jokingly or otherwise?
Not really. I have a chaotic wardrobe with no dominant brand/offbrand
>What lolitas do you consider to be brand whores, past or present?
Milky Fawn is the bigget one people point at

>How do you define “brand whore”?
Someone who intentionally and exclusively buys Japanese brand stuff.
>Do you think it’s a negative thing?
No. I've never seen anybody get offended by being called a brandwhore, if anything, anyone who tries to weaponise the term are triggered they can't afford/ can't fit into brand have have to settle for cheap shit.
>Do you identify as one, jokingly or otherwise?
Maybe. The pickings for goth pieces that don't look like shit on taobao are slim. I favour simple stuff over busy prints and taobao doesn't cater to that. I also find that bpn pieces are not only cheaper, but much nicer then anything you can get from taobao. It's hard not to be a brand whore as a gothic lolita.
>What lolitas do you consider to be brand whores, past or present
idk, Taylor maybe considering how obsessed with ap she is.

>>10396440
>How do you define “brand whore”?
Someone who’s wardrobe is mainly Japanese brands
>Do you think it’s a negative thing?
Not really, I’m a brand whore personally. I like supporting the brands I started with, and I’m too stupid to use taobao. It only gets bad when you get that elitist mentality where you look down on others for not owning Japanese brand names. If some people like the Chinese stuff better than the Japanese stuff, go for it.
>Do you identify as one, jokingly or otherwise?
Oh yeah hahaha I’m definitely a brand whore.
>What lolitas do you consider to be brand whores, past or present
That one girl that always wore the Godiva wig from GLW with all her rare af dresses is the best example of a brand whore. Idk if she looked down on anyone for not wearing brand but she flexed a lot online about her own collection

>How do you define “brand whores”?
Someone who prefers popular Japanese Lolita brands over taobao

>Do you think it’s a negative thing?
Depends on how they act, Normally I don’t see it as a negative thing

>Do you identify as one, jokingly or otherwise?
Yes

>What lolitas do you consider to be brand whores, past or present
Those who prefer better quality(can be varying), brand names on jewellery(like angelic pretty), Usually older lolitas

>How do you define “brand whore”?
Lolitas who judge people for owning mostly or all indie brands, call them poorfags and not real lolitas and all that. You can prefer brand without being an asshole, but brandwhores choose to be assholes about it.

>Do you think it’s a negative thing?
Yes. It's elitist and unnecessary in our already small community.

>Do you identify as one, jokingly or otherwise?
Nope.

>What lolitas do you consider to be brand whores, past or present
Tyler (although she shits on ANYTHING besides AP/sweet, so she's more an APwhore), most big sisters on BSoLF, a vocal minority of people on this board.

>How do you define “brand whore”?
Someone who primarily or only buys brand. May or may not have a shopping addiction and buy an absurd amount of brand in a month.
>Do you think it’s a negative thing?
Sort of. Bad for your wallet. I've never heard anyone shit on offbrand outside of 4chan, though.
>Do you identify as one, jokingly or otherwise?
Definitely. My wardrobe has about 70 pieces or so, and all but 1 are brand. Supporting the main brands is a big part of the lifestyle for me.
>What lolitas do you consider to be brand whores, past or present
A lot of my comm members are. I'm more or a secondhand shopper, but they are big on new releases and are always talking about new releases they're going to buy. Anyone who goes after new releases consistently is a more traditional brandwhore, but I'm still (internally, never outwardly) elitist towards brand/offbrand, so I'd include people like me too.

>>10396557
Did you happen to notice that only you defined brandwhore that way, taobao-Cchan?

>>10396557
Wow you are really mad Tyler theoretically wouldn’t like your wardrobe aren’t you?

>>10396557
Nah, people just realize that you are projecting your insecurities because there is no logical reason to not go for better products if you can afford it.

Most lolitas own brand my dear, but brand whore is a parody.

>>10396557
I'm sure you're the op, fishing for people who feel the same way you feel. since literally nobody gives a fuck about being called a brandwhore. There are people who literally wear badges and rings with this saying on it. I'll stay flexing with my $50 bpn op.

>>10396622
Ironically I’m OP and I was trying to bait them.

Also start a conversation because it had the potential to go somewhere but not in the YouTube thread

I had a girl at a local con I went to make a joke about me trying to flex because I was wearing a full AP set (a fairly cheap lucky pack set too). Is that actually a common sentiment?? I'm a lonelita and I haven't ever been part of a comm.

>>10396600
>>10396610
>>10396615
>>10396622
>timestamps
stop samefagging. the taobaolita ruffles your petti, we get it.

>>10396647
That’s not how time stamp claiming works. Also unless you think the rest of the thread is one person elaborately lying to you then maybe realize you’re being a bit much. Also you can check the number of posters ITT? What are you on about?

>>10396645
They’re just a poorfag newlita most likely.

>>10396600
Wow I wonder if that's because this board has a lot of brandwhores themselves? Shocking.

>>10396615
Where do I send the check for this brilliant psychological evaluation? Kek.

>>10396622
Nope. I'd bring the discussion to FB if I wanted that, as I'm far from the only indie fan there.

>>10396661
In your own post you said we were a “minority” on here, which is why I asked if you didn’t notice that you were the only one who replied the way you did.

>>10396663
Vocal minority. Key word is vocal.

>>10396673
How... would you know it’s a minority if the others aren’t talking...on an anonymous image board?

Seriously go to Facebook if it makes you that upset that people think you are being stupid

>>10396680
Where do I seem upset exactly?

>>10396690
Because you’ve been replying for 4 straight hours about the same subject and brought it up in the first place as a complaint. Most people would categorize that as upset.

>>10396693
I quite literally have nothing better to do during quarantine. So it's moreso boredom, but ok.

>>10396696
That is... really sad. Go outside anon.

>>10396699
Go outside... during strict shelter in place orders... no I'm good, thanks.

>>10396700
Shelter in place in most places allow for going outside and getting exercise. Just wear a mask and wash your hands.

>>10396714
Nah.

>>10396645
Man, as much as I hear about those mean old brandwhores criticizing taobao dresses, I've never seen it happen in reality. No, but the comments I DO hear and receive a lot are more like, "oh, that btssb jsk is so pretty, it's my dream dress, but I can't afford that :(( it's too expensive for meee :(( I can only afford devilinspired" like fine, if you don't wanna spend on brand it's whatever, but what am I supposed to do? Agree that it's too expensive? Give you a comforting hug? It's so uncomfortable and awkward. I have a friend who does this but with weight, too, whenever they see me in lolita. STOP.

>>10396734
>oh, that btssb jsk is so pretty, it's my dream dress, but I can't afford that :(( it's too expensive for meee :(( I can only afford devilinspired
This, also it drives ME nuts because I bargain hunt like crazy for brand and get sticker shock whenever I see devilinspired. Like what am I supposed to do be like sorry random, but actually this nice full lace apron cost less than your cheap polyester half apron from devilispired? Sorry you are dumb?? There is no winning here

>>10396734
>>10396754
Agreed, I’ve noticed there’s an influx in guilt tripping people who wear brand vs the other way around. It’s always passive aggressively done like “I wish I could afford brand but I have so many bills to
pay.” Oh yeah like I don’t? Looking for good deals on brand is not difficult if you’re willing to actually spend the time looking through auctions on the daily. But to be quite fair, I usually only ever get these types of comments when I’m at a convention.

>>10396734
why do people like fb isn't reality
don't get me wrong i hate the fb side of the comm but it's real people

>>10396765
I get them on the rare occasion I go to a meetup, but luckily never at cons. Probably because I’m behind usually behind a table and I think people find that intimidating

>How do you define “brand whore”?
someone who buys and promotes brand over anything else
>Do you think it’s a negative thing?
yes and no. There's nothing wrong with sticking to brand, but people who self identify as brand whores are often roleplayers, do not dress well, or are just annoying. Usually someone who thinks about the community before the fashion, and who seems to think "lolitas must be lovelies" is a real thing and are bizarrely obsessed with disproving it.
>Do you identify as one, jokingly or otherwise?
I admit that I only own brand in almost every facet of my wardrobe, besides some offbrand accessories to fill gaps. But I wouldn't consider myself a brand whore, because I don't think brand is the be all end all, and I just don't care enough about what other people buy to push "brand over everything". I'm open to buying a main piece from Taobao, I just haven't seen much that intrigues me. Second hand brand also tends to be cheaper than new Taobao, and I don't like taking a risk when I could just buy something I know will be good from a well established brand.
>What lolitas do you consider to be brand whores, past or present
I don't keep up with the community much, so I don't know.

my closet is 3/4 brand and 1/4 indie or taobao and honestly, I don’t care about brandwhores, it’s their money they can buy what they want, but I cant stand the itas who complain about not being able to fit or buy brand. Buying the absolute cheapest garbage off of taobao or aliexpress is bad and you should feel bad. Lolita shouldn’t look cheap. You don’t have to be a brandwhore but have some standards.

>>10396440
>How do you define “brand whore”?
Someone with the outdated notion that the only 'real' lolita is that designed by the original Japanese brands, that or someone who will only buy the one brand and doesn't give other brands a chance (e.g. apfags)
>Do you think it’s a negative thing?
Years ago no, as it helped establish a good foundation for the fashion when we didn't have as many resources, nowadays it's naive and catty, as for the single-brand whores it's a little uncreative but if it makes you happy go for it
>Do you identify as one, jokingly or otherwise?
Overall no, i jokingly consider myself a Baby-brandwhore, as I prefer Baby and haven't even considered wearing AP as I have never seen anything I like from them, but I do wear other brands and off brand.
>What lolitas do you consider to be brand whores, past or present
I dont really remember anyone being strict brandwhores other than maybe milkyfawn, there's also a classic japanese lolita I follow who's strictly MM/VM but I haven't seen her judging anyone else.
Specific brandwhores that come to mind are Tyler and mana-san

>How do you define “brand whore”?
someone who worships glorious nippon and thinks only japanese shit matters. they'll even bash great brands like haenuli bc not muh japanese burando
>Do you think it’s a negative thing?
yes bc japanese brands can and do make horrible quality shit, royal princess alice for ex
>Do you identify as one, jokingly or otherwise?
nah
>What lolitas do you consider to be brand whores, past or present
lor used to be before she started shilling taobao, tyler seems like it but idk if it's just part of the bitch act

>>10396440
Brandwhores would never buy jewelry from a shitty indie brand that says “brandwhore”

>>10396855
>japanese brands can and do make horrible quality shit, royal princess alice
God, this. No one ever likes to hear it but RPA is taobao quality at JP prices.

>>10396440
>>How do you define “brand whore”?
Someone really, really into one or a couple very specific brands, lolita or otherwise. Brand consumer mentality is the same regardless whether the brand in question is AP or Apple. Look up Happy Victims photo book for example, where Japanese fashion enthusiasts lay out all their collection, the Baby spread is often posted here.
>>Do you think it’s a negative thing?
Depends on if the consumer in question can handle their economy.
>>Do you identify as one, jokingly or otherwise?
Definitely, though I've fallen out of love for my previous brandwhore obsession and I've yet to find a new one in my price range.

>>10396862
>No one ever likes to hear it
RPA gets shit on to hell and back every time they’re posted here, so I’m not sure where you’re getting this from? I don’t know anyone who even counts them as part of the “big Japanese brands”, and I also don’t know any brandwhores who claim every single Japanese brand is great. Nobody thinks axes femme’s lolita line is on par with the “real brands”, for example.

>>10396862
Literally everyone thinks RPA is shit. Where have you been

>>10396855
Haenuli makes garbage and I own plenty of non-Japanese clothing. Try using an actually good example like Lief next time

Brand whores used to be a thing when it was really difficult to buy brand because the Japanese brand wouldn't ship internationally. Handmade clothing used to be a lot more common. Somewhere around 2012 it was sort of hip to pretend that handmade clothing was better and to look down on brand. So people who liked brand would look down on taobao and handmade clothing in return. After the major brands started to ship internationally and it became more common to sell your brand secondhand brand lost it's status and the concept of brandwhores went away because everyone could easily buy brand.

>>10397113
I got into lolita in 2012 and the second hand sales were hopping at that’s point. Also Fyeahlolita frequently talks abound being able to pick up brand main pieces for $50-80 back then. Shit, I have an IW skirt I got for $40 from that time, and most of my other brand I bought then was Mayberry $20-30 more than I spend now. This is simply not true.

>>10397090
>>10396959
People think RPA is shit but still throw a fit when you call it taobao.

>>10397269
Well yeah, it’s not sold on Taobao. I wouldn’t call it Etsy or Amazon either? No one calls Bodyline Taobao but you’re delusional if you think that means people consider it brand.

>>10396680
The lurkers support her in email

Hot take for the “brandwhores glorify Japan set.” A lot of brandwhores, myself included, would categorize non-Japanese brands as brand or effectively brand. I consider Lief brand, for example, even though it’s Korean.

>>10397282
The ghosts whisper “you are valid” in the night

>>10397113
>Somewhere around 2012 it was sort of hip to pretend that handmade clothing was better and to look down on brand
Are you talking about your local comm or the online community? I remember when the only way to get brand was to fly to Japan or know someone who did, and while handmade was much more common then I don’t remember people arguing that it was better than brand. A valid alternative sure, but not better.

>>10397292
nta but i vaguely remember what she's talking about too. indie "brands" like moss badger and haenuli were getting extremely popular during that time period and i even remember being a SS for some haenuli items at the time. same with some taobao brands like infanta and rose melody which were even touted as chinese indie rather than being on the same level as taobao. hell, that's why clobbaonline was so popular.

>>10397296
Popularity and being “better than” are two different things. That’s like saying people think taobao isn’t better than brand now because a lot of people us DI

>>10396690
By crying over two whole threads. Just go back to fb.

>>10397306
you're missing the point entirely. people were touting taobao brands as quality indie handmade rather than cheap chinese flea market crap. taobao was sought after, even by popular lolitas. and it was a hipster fad to shun burando, mostly by non-sweet lolitas.

>>10397331
>Somewhere around 2012 it was sort of hip to pretend that handmade clothing was better and to look down on brand
The post literally said people thought it was better. Which wasn’t true.

>>10397336
are you being obtuse on purpose? it didn't even figuratively say that.

>>10397345
That’s.... that’s literally from the post. Are you high? If saying handmade was better didn’t mean they meant it was better what the shit did you mean

>>10397331
OP said:
>people thought handmade was better
>brandwhores shit on taobao in retaliation
Your comment is not relevant to any of this

>>10397350
i'm nta but saying
>pretending handmade was better
doesn't literally to say handmade is better, she's trying to express a shift in the community surrounding elitism about indie. taobao and haenuli were trendy and a lot of people wearing it treated it as some exclusive indie hipster thing. 2012 or so is when most, if not all, brands were accessible in the west and replicas were making their big appearance with DoL and Oojia, so wearing brand and being elitist about brands and prints was seen as more passe.

>>10397284
Yes. It's certainly about the quality. They're indie brands but, like you said, effectively brand. They also tend to have very clear defined aesthetics and quality fabrics.

Name me one taobao brand that can hold a candle to lief.

>>10396440
(This is just my personal opinion)

>How do you define “brand whore”?
I personally consider brandwhore someone who only buys "burando" regardless of the quality /good design
Considering burando a certain long-life popular Japanese brands
For example, I know some people who owns mainly burando but are aware about some downgrades/ bland concept and won't defend those brands blindly.

>Do you think it’s a negative thing?
In my notion of what I consider as a brandwhore, yes it would be bad for the person itself mostly
But I don't see the problem about someone owning only "brand"

>Do you identify as one, jokingly or otherwise?
Haha, again as my point of view no. I own a lot of burando but also a lot of what are considered "indie"

>What lolitas do you consider to be brand whores, past or present
Past. I've seen it is mostly caused by nostalgia.

>>10397361
Curious what other brands people would place in that category. I’d consider old 4 o’clock to be there as well as BB&B (for accessories) as of late

>>10397361
Henrietta

>>10397320
I guess by "crying" you mean "calmly responding." Thanks for the entertainment though.

>>10396841
>mana-san
How can the owner of a brand be a brandwhore wtf.

>>10397769
nayrt but they're talking about mana-san aka moitie ita, not mana-sama