/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

unanswered questions from the end of the last thread
>>10411240
>>10411453
>>10411526

>>10411453
Menhera is specifically with "sick" motifs like needles and pills. Yamikawaii is an umbrella term for things that are dark and cute

Just received my dream dress in the post, (Fleur Antoinette) but none of my petticoats are big enough for it. Any recommendations for a BIG petti that'll sufficiently hold the dress? Currently looking at Aurora and Ariel's 60cm petticoat as an option.

>>10411625
Layer your petticoat on top of a hoop skirt.

I ordered two overskirts from Glitter Tale on 4/12. They said it would take 35-55 days to make because of COVID. I sent a FB message to them over 24 hours ago asking for an update because it's been almost 60 days now and I've heard nothing.

What are other people's experiences with Glitter Tale? This is the first time I've ordered from them, but I'm annoyed now. I'm considering starting a Paypal claim. How many more days should I wait for them to respond?

Is that okay to make a replica of taobao solid piece?

>>10411726
My experience is that before Covid-19 they would state it takes 30 days to make the customized dress. That's to make it, only. That isn't waiting for them to order the fabric and shipping time to them, and whatever wait time they throw in for the hell of it. After over 30 days from order date, I received a notice that the print was out of stock, and I had to select a new print. Restart clock. It took 4 months to get my dress. It was absolutely off the measurements by 12 inches too big in the bust, waist was probably more than that. Absolute joke. Good luck Anon.

>>10411576
>>10411620
would that be too much pink? Would it be better if I used a white blouse with a pink headbow?

>>10411779
>Okay to make
If you want to replicate a design from an existing piece for a handmade piece, for personal use, nobody will shank you. If it really worries you, shift up some small thing in the design in a way you like. Handmade is handmade, and as long as you don't try to sell them commercially it should be fine. If somebody is interested in the dress when it's done, redirect them to the original source. Not all of us are crazy enough to make our own dresses, but if you are good for you.

>>10411836
Actually it's apron. I just can't justify paying its price for something I can make myself for like half cost or even less. Idk if I ever decide to sell it, I have many handmade things/unfinished projects that I don't wear and can't be assed to finish and sell.

>>10411844
Forgot to add, but original apron is somewhat longer that I'd like it to be. It might take some work to make it shorter, but it's really not much compared to the amount of the details I need to make, so I'm a bit hesistant.

>>10411844
Why not make one of the aprons from otome no sewing or GLB

>>10411851
They always seemed so meh to me both in terms of design and construction. I only like them being used for these Anne of Green Gables kind of pieces. Something very simple and period inspired.

>>10411781
Wow. Now I just want to do a PayPal claim to get my money back. They still haven't replied to me.

I got bodyline shoes secondhand and was surprised by how comfortable they are! I'd like to get more but I heard that the sizing is pretty inconsistent. The ones I got were on a slightly bigger side so I was thinking of sizing down and getting a some different shoes in that size. Is that fine or should I get just one first so I know how it fits?

>>10411877
I've owned around 4 different models of Bodyline shoes and had the same size in all of them so you should be fine.

Is there a brand that makes headbands with thin flat bows, sort of similar to pic related? I know Baby had some, but I can't seem to find any on lolibrary.

>>10411877
They’re slightly bigger because you bought them second hand and they’re already broken in.

>>10411904

I would also like to know as well. I wear sweet but these flatter more "classic" style bows help for casual or sweet-classic coords to not look too OTT

>>10411904
Sweet dreamer, ank rouge

How well do the strapless Angelic Pretty dresses stay on? I love the style, but I'm worried about having to hike it up all day.

>>10411939
Just tighten the shirring

Sorry if this has been asked a thousand times before but is there a way to find out when EMS starts shipping again? I have shipments on hold since March.

>>10411810
I personally don't think it's too much pink, but I think that a white blouse would be more versatile since you're just starting your wardrobe

>>10412228
No. They’ll make an announcement when they’re ready.

I want to get into lolita but i have broad sholders. The rest of me is pretty dainty and girly. Is there a way to hide my shoulders?

>>10412491
>broad shoulders
>'dainty and girly'
sounds like you're a sissy. gtfo.

how long should a lolita be in the fashion/ how many non-ita coordinates should a lolita have to no longer be considered 'new to lolita'?

pic unrelated

>>10412540
Personally I'd say it's purely a function of time actively wearing the fashion, and nothing to do with quality. Perma-itas aren't in a perpetual state of newness, they're just oldfags who happen to dress like shit.

Maybe one year actively wearing the fashion would be my cutoff point for new.

Is it possible to find older items on Taobao? for instance, I'd like to buy Infanta sleeping bear salopette (pic related), but I can't seem to find it on their Taobao

(sorry for the newfag-tier question)

What's the best cupcake-shaped petticoat from Aurora&Ariel that's under 400 chinese yuan?

>>10412491
Big shoulders means large bones. Its unlikely your shoulders are the only large aspect. Also you are trying to get into japanese fashion. Im a strong shouldered girl and am very careful in ordering clothes to ensure I will fit. I hope you are cis because a man will def not fit

Just saw a cute release of items from a store in Tokyo that doesn't accept mail orders, so I'd need an in-store shopping service
>muuh isn't available anymore
>tenshi cannot purchase it as she has no plans to go to tokyo at this time
>usual backup SS through a friend isn't available

what do?? anyone have any favorites for in-store Tokyo shopping?

>>10412560
>tokyo is the most populated city in the world
>only a handful of SS

also if it’s just in store pick up there’s a lot of resources anon, googling “in store japan shopping” gives like 10 different websites

is Devilinspired a safe brand? is there anything cheaper that isnt taobao? looking for 30-50$ for jsk

what kind of jsk cut would look best with this? i thought that the layers of lace and frills on the neckline would be more of a "collar" but they're kind of stitched down. am i just overthinking it?

>>10412228
i got one of my EMS packages from late march (around march 21st) on june 2nd. they're shipping things, just extremely slowly.

>>10412593
Devilinspired is just marked-up taobao, anon. if you want something that cheap, your best bet is bodyline or secondhand. Closetchild usually has pretty good deals but idk if they're shipping bc of rona

>>10412597
Why not a skirt? Blouses with detailed collars look so cute with skirts. Otherwise maybe an open bust jsk?

>>10412619
i was thinking skirts would probably look best, but i don't own a whole lot of them unfortunately :') thank you!

>>10412617
cc is shipping with dhl

>>10412544
Taobao has a secondhand market, but it's only available as a mobile app. 2taobao / xianyu. As far as I know, it's not available on the app store or Google play. But you can install it on your phone yourself if you just download the app on your own. You'll also need to make a taobao account. From the app, you can grab links to send to your shopping service for them to purchase.

>>10412546
they only make a-line ones

>>10412593
bodyline during sales

>>10412544
taobao brands rarely do re-releases, so secondhand is your best bet

>>10411939
I see a lot of people including AP shop staff using those clear removable bra straps with them

Since most TaoBao shops recommend you order a size that will give you at least 4 cm of clearance, does that mean for custom orders you should also add 4 cm to all your measurements? Or is it better to give them your raw measurements?

Stupid jfash question...
Is it ita to wear open toed heels with lolita? Esp with otk or nylons?

>>10412913
Photo ref. They were cheap, & look cheap but i refuse to wear a lolita dress w/o shoes even if im not leaving the house. I want a pair of meta heels with the same platform and chunky heel style but they are closed toed and have a dainty ankle strap... These on the other hand comes off a bit stripper-y?

>>10412913
every lolita outfit with open toed heels just use gyaru dreamv heels.

>>10412913
i don't think they have to be ita, but they often are. your example definitely does look cheap and not very lolita due to their plainness, but maybe you could dress it up with patterned tights or frilltop socks? meta heels will definitely look nicer!

>>10412923
Thank you, anon i will mix it up tomorrow and see! Probably just gunna toss them once i have better heels.

AP Paris has stuff AP SF doesn't have, but the markup is fucking brutal, does anyone know how much their shipping to US is? i don't wanna eat the markup and then a fatass shipping fee.

>>10412993
The mark up is pretty bad and so is the shipping, you might as well just buy from japan and pay Yamato. Shipping for a dress + few accessories was about 38 euros and took 2 weeks to get to me (also in the US)

>>10412900
definitely add a few cm

>>10412913
ok for casual coords

>>10412900
Give them your raw measurements or you'll end up with an ill-fitting tent. They know how to add fabric.

>>10411904
>>10411934
I have one from Innocent World

>>10412593
Get a different hobby or wait until you're old enough for a real job

I’m looking to buy a cage skirt/crinoline to wear underneath my dresses for the summer months. Where should I look? Which ones are best?

>>10413077
Mine is from DivinityDoll on Etsy and I LOVE it. It’s expensive but well worth it.

HELP!
I am new and I think I did something stupid when I was trying to Join the FB groups.
I can only find the Closet of frills : daily EGL coords but I cannot find the other one daily EGL from what I understand ?
What do I do ?

>>10413106
they set the group to secret, to keep out seagulls i think

>>10413077
taobao has some nice adjustable-length ones

>>10413106
What are the best Facebook groups to join as a relative newbie? At the moment I’m only in COF, BSOLF and Rufflechat. Am I missing out on a lot?

Does Misako ACTUALLY work as a nurse?

How big is a size S for Jane Marple shoes?

>>10413188
I just realised that maybe I should say which shoe lol I looked at measurements for other JM shoes and looks like it's 23cm? Is it the same for all of their shoes?

before I cared about Lolita, I would research about stuff like undertones, how I short people who want to look taller should avoid dresses/skirts because it cuts your legs in half and how I should stay away from pastels because I have olive skin (arab), and I felt like I didn't look good in pastels. Now I'm interested in Lolita fashion and want to get my first coordinate, however, I feel hesitant because I'm unsure if I should ignore the fashion theory stuff and I'm scared that I'll end up feeling ugly in Lolita- should I just admire Lolita from afar, or should I get my first coordinate (and if I end up not liking it, I can sell it secondhand)?

>>10413199
You can wear lolita and not wear pastels. As well its more about the correct tone, so it may be that some blue toned lavenders work but warn toned pinks dont.

Just buy shit.

>>10413199
I would say just go for it. If you don't like it you can sell secondhand like you said. Here are the possibilities: you either end up loving how the dresses look and how you feel in them or you end up not liking it and selling it secondhand.

As long as you aren't diving headfirst into buying a $500 dollar dress + accessories there aren't any high stakes risks.

>>10413199
>Asian girls are tall
Anon, this fashion is made for you. Just look for dresses that would look good with your undertone. I'm white with
dirty blonde hair and wirey leg hair and eyebrows which means I look perpetually unshaved, that just means I went with classic lolita where I can wear burgundy stockings and the neutral colours bring out my face better.
Check what colours look good on you and don't forget - your body type is the same as Asian girls just slightly darker skin.

>>10413118
newfag here, what does seagulls mean

>>10413206
cgl
c gl
sea gull
a seagull is someone who posts on cgl

>>10413122
Those are about it. There's also lolita updates if you wanna keep an eye on new releases and lolita sewing collective if you can sew but watch out for itas

Can i wear lolita to a kink party? I mean i know all that ddlg drama shit but i am Dom so i would wear classic/gothic so it won't be a chance to associate me with ageplayers

>>10413292

You can do whatever you want. Just don't get mad when normies accuse lolita of being your kink when you're intentionally incorporating it into kink.

At least you're wearing goth and not calling anyone "daddy"...I'm so tired of sissies and pedo kinksters wearing/associating sweet with ddlg.

>>10412619
NAYRT, but wdym by open bust JSK? Like a sweetheart or a low square neckline, something like that?

>>10413199
You should definitely try it anon! I think you'll regret it if you don't try it.

what's a good petti to wear underneath salopettes? I wanna give mine some extra poof but regular pettis are too long

>>10413307
Bodyline tutu petticoats. I also like to roll up my A line to make it shorter.

>>10413300
I think anon meant underbust jsk

>>10413300
nayrt, but one like this Innocent World dress. They make a lot of them. They're basically a regular JSK but the neckline is cut lower, kind of like a halfway between a high waist skirt and a JSK, they look good with detailed high neck blouses like that.

>>10413199
pastel is only a thing in sweet lolita. you could wear classic or gothic instead if it makes you more comfortable

Is there anywhere I could get custom cotton blouses in a variety of colors like purples and greens? Just bought a skirt thinking I knew a place to get a matching blouse, but they're all see through chiffon meant for jsks.

Has anyone else ordered from applesaladtea (LuminescenTea) recently? It's getting near the end of the waiting period for me and the recent reviews of her being totally unresponsive are concerning. I shot her a message as soon as I saw them, weeks ago, and she hasn't responded. Is it worth waiting? Or should I just immediately dispute?

>>10413193
Size s is between 22 and 22.5cm, 23 is closer to a size m

I would like to start wearing lolita but I'm a bit lost on what first dress I should buy,
I sift through what style (classic) and color (mainly cream, brown, floral) I love the most, but I still have a dilema :

should I buy any bodyline dress that fit the color I like but I don't have accesories that match it.

or should I wait to get a hand brand dress that match brand accesories I already have ( navy headdress + socks ) but navy is harder to mix with the colors I mostly like.

I plan to buy white blouses and already have shoes that would match either of the two but I have no idea what to do about the accesories situation. I sadly can't buy taobao at the moment because my national postal service are absolute steakhead and already mess up package in non pandemic situation.

>>10413545
You can always try wearing a slip/camisole/tank top underneath.

really necessary to say no cosplay when theres no cosplay on this whole damn board any more?

I have two packages stuck in american customs in two different cities, what’s with the hold up?

>>10413656
Fuck off, if it isn’t explicitly said people will come here with their cosplay questions. Hell they STILL do, even when it says not to.

>>10413657
It’s just slow right now. I’m used to my packages leaving customs quickly too, but I just recently got a package that wasn’t released for over a week. I wouldn’t worry.

>>10413312
>>10413315
Yep, that's exactly what I meant - sorry, totally spaced on the actual terminology for some reason.

>>10413646
sorry for the typo, I mean second hand brand dress in the 4th line

>>10413657
I have the same problem, but my package hasn't moved for a month now. Is there any point to contacting the seller?

Is having an ita-phase an inevitable part of becoming a lolita?

>>10413711
For the most part lolita is someone's first time being into fashion and trying stuff out that isnt normie looks. That combined with newbies wanting to be cheap, being an ita seems to be a thing everyone goes through.

Im sure there are ways to really avoid it, such as experimenting on your looks and hair styles before lolita. But it is a leaning curve.

>>10413711
No. Not if you have a good fashion sense and do research.

almost all of bodyline's socks are out of stock. When will they be realistically in stock? I've heard some of their dresses are not in stock for years

Where do you find comms in China online?

How do you get the wrinkles out of dresses? My first go to would be to use an iron but I'm afraid of damaging the fabric or burning it.

>>10413805
Use a clothes steamer.

>>10413805
Invest in a steamer or use the steam setting on your iron and hover over the fabric.

>>10413806
>>10413808
Awesome, looking into them on Amazon now, thanks!

>>10413805
Just hang it in your bathroom and run the shower on hot.

>>10413833
that doesn't work that well and will cost more than just buying a damn steamer.

Not sure if this is the right place to ask it but when a blog posts in both english and another language, would you prefer if it was posted as two different entries, same entry with all that’s written in another language at the top and english at the bottom or both languages paragraph by paragraph?

>>10413706
I tried contacting one but no answer. My package in LA customs says “released from customs” but ends there. My package in NYC just says “Arrived at ISC”.

>>10413836
i would prefer seeing the entire text in language x and then the entire text in english all in the same post.

What things should I pay attention to in stock photos so I can distinguish the quality of items? I'm new to lolita and I don't want to accidentally get a replica or a shit quality dress. Normally, I just look at the store's rating, but I doubt that's enough

>>10413835
It does work, and I agree but if you don't already have a steamer on hand and won't use an iron there's not much else you can do.
I'd suggest just using the iron.

Between sweet, classic and gothic, which would be the easiest to coordinate?

>>10413889
I feel like gothic would be the easiest, all you have to do it get your blacks to match.

But desu, if you're aiming for a basic coord then they're all easy. Like white blouse + dress set + mary janes/heels that somewhat match and you're good

What are the most comfortable type of lolita shoes to walk in for someone that is not used to wearing heels? How do you make heels more comfortable? Are simple flats alright to wear?

Where do lolitas come from?

>>10413908
The stork

Good cupcake petticoat for a budget?

can someone ID if those are replicas?

>>10413952
Yup, these are replicas of Heart Scallop boots by Baby

>>10413955
here comes another stupid question: where do I shop for cute non-replica lolita boots?

Cherry_sp on lacemarket is a scalper? Don't like her profile with 2000 reviews but she has something I like and not so overpriced like gem gem

>>10413908
leave two petticoats in a room together, water regularly, and your lolita should sprout in 2-4 weeks.

>>10413973
Brands, ie baby or Iw or Ap. Or lacemarket and buy brands.

>>10413982
Duh.

>>10413973
Brand sites, Wunderwelt, JP Mercari, Y!A.
Not sure if you mind offbrand that aren't replicas based on your wording. If you don't, taobao (Secret Shop, Antaina). No one will care if you have replica shoes anyway unless it's a super specific design. There's only so many lolita-appropriate designs and most are generic.

>>10413860
Where are you looking anon? I’m assuming AliExpress or eBay based off your store rating comment. I’d suggest looking at customer photos if you’re using those platforms and zoom in on the lace

>>10413653
I'd really just prefer having an opaque blouse.

what's the difference between axes femme, axes femme poetique, and axes femme kawaii?

>>10413989
I’m looking for off brand specifically. Stuff like >>10413952 doesn’t seem too generic. It’s not too much of high lolita boots on sale overall.

>>10413973
just get plain stuff from aliexpress. chances are it may have been a replica of a brand original, but if it's more generic, it's not as big of a deal.

>>10413907

Go up half a size and pad the shoes out with some insoles.

Don't bother with heels. A lot of lolita shoes are flat anyway, I'm not even sure why you think they need to be heels. Go for (small) platform shoes if you want some height. There's a sneaker thread on cgl at the moment, but I'd suggest it for casual sweet outfits only.

If you're gothic or classic you can usually get by with office shoes or some formal dress shoes from a normie brand.

Avoid simple flats at all costs. They're usually very thin and small, so it always looks strange when worn with a overly frilly poofy dress.

>>10414057

kawaii would be the lolita line, it's still keeping up with bigger skirts (though everything is still really flat, the pannier (petticoat) they have is more like a daily low poof)

Can't recall what poetique was supposed to be, it doesn't really seem to have a lot of style difference with main axes femme.

>>10413545
glitter tale. maybe strawberry witch for some colors

>>10413711
well, if you only ever buy full sets, you technically can't ever be ita. you'll just look super boring like tyler.

>>10413747
realistically, years or never. sucks.

>>10413788
weibo.

>>10413889
gothic because it doesn't involve any color balancing.

>>10413907
flat boots or flat tea-party type shoes

>>10413921
if you want basic poof, classical puppets is a good start. it gives out pretty easy though, so don't expect a ton of uses. if you want medium/bigger poof sometimes the 500 yen cupcake from bodyline is good but the quality varies and i think they only have green color in stock rn. the poof on that holds forever, basically.

what are the best options for replicas of AP's Sweet Whip shoes? i'm just out of the size range for AP shoes

Are people more likely to interact with a post from a complete newbie if they aren’t ita, to encourage them to keep it up? Or do people just ignore it because they don’t know the person

>>10414111
stop.

I feel like ready Lolita blogs, is there any list of recommend active blogs?
The ones I followed are pretty death..

>>10414150
Giant orcs shouldn't wear kawaii fashion

>>10414190
I wish people used Instagram like the old bloggers!! How hard would it be to write cute milkyfawn-esque captions? Instead we get emojis and shitty “edgy” quotes and a question to grasp for some engagement. EGL Instagram could be so much more fun, it never fails to disappoint me

Once your SS makes a purchase on fril, is there any chance of that purchase being cancelled by the buyer or has the danger passed? I've never had an SS purchase rejected before so I'm not sure when I'm out of the woods

>>10414244
Oops, by the seller, I meant.

Anyone know of any good tutorials on how to cut bangs like pic related? I already trim my own bangs but I want to add in the longer side pieces. My hair dresser never really did those in my hair, presumably because it's not an American thing. Honestly, he looked pretty confused when I tried explaining it to him.

>>10414247
I kinda hope you want to look like Keanu.
But if you're looking at the bangs, you need to explain it as triangle bangs (there's a great diagram in the archive) that start from a single point on the scalp rather than being parted in the front. You can also show him pictures of a hime cut and explain it as "Cher bangs" if he doesn't get it. That's how I explained the hime cut to my hairdresser, and I got the results I wanted.
But as someone who has a hime cut, it's pretty easy to DIY the side bits as long as you already have the bangs. Just start longer and in smaller sections than you would expect and slowly work towards your desired look.

>>10414248
Oh, I don't mean a hime cut! (Those are shorter and more mid-cheek I think?) Just want the longer side pieces that so many Japanese women have. I do already have triangle bangs though! Just not the long side pieces.

I'll probably just try to DIY it and chop off little by little. It's just really nervewracking to cut hair more than a trim. I'm also trying not to work outside the triangle but I'm afraid I'm going to be stuck with hime bangs while the pieces grow out. Though it seems like Kyary has a pretty huge triangle on her head so I might have to make it wider.

>>10411574
I am gonna become Tifa Lockheart.... but one issue... where is a decent place to buy her outfit? I keep finding places where the material looks shit but the price is pricy. I don't ming playing but I don't want to spend good money on shit.

>>10414270
Go to the cosplay thread, moron

>>10414263
Nayrt, but that’s still a hime cut.

>>10411904
Look on taobao, they have so many of them

>>10414221
I hate to read longer captions on Instagram because of the formatting..

Has anyone bought anything from Barrack Room? They keep listing things on their Instagram but they don't seem to add anything to their online shop.

>>10414221
There's a very thin line between blog posts and "insta fitness thot"esque wall of texts. If someone wants a blog, they should just link it on their instagram. Blogs are generally better for storing and looking for information, and I doubt anyone sane would look for some random post on someone's entire profile. There's a reason why people post screenshots of their notebook app if they want to post something text only, majority of people don't care for what you post with your aesthetic photo.

>>10414305
this!

What Japanese brands sell cute organisers, I want somewhere kawaii to put my makeup and plastic ap jewellery.

>>10414263
They're face-framing pieces, anon. It's totally an American thing too, your hairdresser is lame. Go to someone else. I don't recommend doing them yourself, as someone who cut their own bangs for years and figured they could do that too, lol.

>>10414434
this. the thing that western hairdressers are bad at are the triangle bangs usually.

>>10413657
>>10413706
>what are current events

If you're wearing a jumperskirt with a bolero (such as pic related) is it really necessary to wear a blouse? I get that it might look better but I'm thinking about hot weather.

>>10414489
jsks with these kinds of cardigans tend to look best without a blouse because the sleeves on will fight eachother, even on short sleeves. the issue with not wearing a blouse is that you might want to take the cardi/bolero off at some point.

Question for Euros: overall, do you find it more worth it to order from Wunderwelt via SS or directly from the site? Avoiding customs fees is obviously great but I don't want to miss out on their rewards points.

>>10414506
Why don’t you just use a forwarding service? That would sort you out for both.

>>10414515
Oh, I didn't think of it admittedly! I've never used one. Thanks for the suggestion! Is Tenso best or do you recommend another one?

>>10414520
Blackship is the best because you can mark down the packages if that's what you wish.

are there any Taobao shops that sell specifically lolita tights/socks?

>>10414610
Roji roji

>>10414533
Thanks again, I appreciate the help!

Is it true that bodyline's non-print dresses are better than their print ones in terms of materials? (ignoring the fact that very few bodyline print dresses look good,aside from maybe Unicorn and friends, Squirrel's party and Cinderella bunny)

>>10413646
Second hand brand for sure. Take it from someone who started off with Bodyline in my ita stage and graduated into brand. Also just learn to have patience. A lolita coord has a lot of pieces and you will never have everything immediately that matches a new dress. Just take your time, get the brand dress that goes with your favorite colors, and then get the accessories to match it. Plus we are in quarantine/slow reopening, there is nowhere to rush. You will be much happier and have the best starting out coord if you wait.

>>10414625
i have a nonprint dress (the classic sailor one), and a print dress from bodyline. the nonprint is much higher quality, the fabric is thick and nice, and it doesnt wrinkle! meanwhile the print one has a very thin fabric and was super wrinkly when it arrived.

>>10413008
>>10413046
Alright since I got conflicting answers: is this based on a personal experience with ordering and getting a dress that was too small/large?

>>10414434
those look way more wispy than what japs wear. i don't think i've ever seen an american with them that wasn't really wispy and layered

>>10413711
Absolutely not, if you're an adult who already has a good fashion sense. Only teens and weebs who wear anime tees have a hard time. Most fatties seem to, since clothes for them generally look like shit.

>>10414181
stop what? answering questions??

>>10414655
i am >>10413008 and yes. i gave exact measurements once and while it technically fit, it's hard to take a deep breath in.

Just bought this skirt and waiting for it to arrive trying to decide what color shoes to pair with it. Im getting the mint colorway, would mint or pink shoes look best?

>>10414751
What colors are everything else? Easiest thing to do is pick the accent color, pink I assume, and do pink blouse/legwear + main color, mint, shoes. Otherwise it really depends on the rest of your coord, post a collage if you can.

>>10414757
Yeah I think im gonna go with pink, it looks better. I wish the strawberries were more red or I'd use the red shoes I already have

hopefully this goes here, i don't usually browse /cgl/ so forgive me. does anyone recognize what jsk this is specifically? my notes say angelic pretty (allegedly) but i'm having trouble finding reference images

>>10414800
It's a drawing and I feel like artist has taken some creative liberties. It looks like
>https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-scallop-lace-roll-jsk-2008
but there are a lot of differences. I may be wrong tho.

>>10414770
that bag is terribly ugly

>>10414800
https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-scallop-lace-roll-jsk-2008
https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-silky-halter-jsk
These are the closest I could find

>>10414804
Good thing you’re not gonna be wearing, anon. It would look even uglier with your attitude.

>>10414822
embarassing.

>>10414803
>>10414806
i found it! it wasn't on lolibrary, but it was literally the second result when i googled "angelic pretty pink jsk scalloped" so fuck me. it's from the "cookie scallop" series apparently
thanks anyway anons, i wasn't aware lolibrary was a thing and this is really useful!

>>10414610
take a look at the store spreadsheet in the taobao thread. click on socks. there's tons

>>10414822
cringe way to reply to concrit.
the purse is ugly - the shitty strawberry on it makes it look really cheap

>>10414822
middle school tier comeback

>>10414659
What the hell, don’t use that word.

>>10414625
>>10414647
Ironically this is also true of AP now. Their print dresses are meh, but their non print cotton releases are gorgeous.

anyone know a resource that lets you study different EGL patterns? I want to make my own but I don't want it to look ita, ugly or badly thought out.
Even a bodyline comp would be great desu. Any info helps!

>>10414917
KEK holy shit, newfag. get outta here

>>10414917
do you know where you are?

>>10414917
What word, w*spy?

>>10414659
I guess, but my point is a stylist should at least know they exist. It should be a matter of "this but thicker" not "let me explain this extremely common aspect of hair to you".

Just bought these to assemble an old school street snap inspired coord. But my closet is almost all kuro, any ideas how to make a corrd around these bags?? ((Without it just being me in all black with a neat bag))

>>10415000
add a gobelin piece

How do you find coord pictures of a main piece? Googling the name of a release doesn't really bring out any good pictures. Fex. Innocent World's Strahov Library is a very popular release and I know I've seen tens of different coords of the dress, but googling it brings out maybe three.

>>10415106
Normally I'd suggest searching the name of the piece in Instagram tags but that doesn't really work for Strahov Library because the actual Strahov Library keeps getting in the way

>>10415106
search for it on cof and similar communities, i would think

Can i wear lolita if im wall-eyed?

>>10414925
Otome no sewing book

>>10415127
Not sure if you're >>10415123 or the post just made you feel insecure, but of course you can.

>>10415132
Ayrt, im afraid I'll be called ita too cause of this

>>10415136
I have faith you can do better than the girl in that photo, anon. Being wall-eyed is the least of her problems.

>>10414626
thank you for your advices, I was a bit flustered because I'm not a big fan of border or skirt only prints and I didn't see any good solid in the second hand market. I thought of getting the L003 jsk from bodyline ( pic related ) but it's probably hard to find accesories that doesn't clash with it.
I'm going to keep and eye open and wait for something that I really love to come up.

For Japanese sales listings where the seller requires the buyer to comment or send a message before buying, should you more or less assume that means it's off-limits to gaijin? My Japanese is decent-intermediate and I could write a message but I don't want to bother if there's no chance whatsoever.

>>10415127
Only pretty girls should wear lolita

>>10415208
Anyone who takes this bait is dumb and should feel bad

>>10414864
It wasn’t concrit and, instead of providing an alternative, they just called it ugly. I wasn’t OP but like damn the bag isn’t even that offensive.

Are these bodyline shoes alright for classic Lolita? What about the brown-being colourway

>>10414725
I'll keep that in mind when I order, thank you for clarifying!

>>10415227
it was OPs choice to get personallu offended someone called the bag ugly

>>10415246
Yes, they are

>>10411726
I still haven't heard back from GlitterTale. Do I send another message being polite... or Paypal claim? Today makes 65 days. And 7 days since I sent them a message asking for a status update.

Is having straight collarbone-level hair alright for sweet lolita? I feel like most sweet lolita hairstyles make me look like a rat in pigtails

>>10415431
Curl the bottoms in. Do you have bangs?

>>10415435
Yes, though they mainly look good with a bit of space in between

>>10415438
Like wispy bangs? If you curl them a bit along with a nice curl at the bottom of your regular hair, you should be ok! Unless your hair is thin, then you might need to give yourself some body depending on what kind of accessories you’ll be wearing on your head

>>10415431
if you look up the kawaii pateen channel on youtube and go to their playlists, they have a playlist for Arisa Kamada. Her hair tutorials may help you. They are labeled gal, but they look fairly generic to me.

>>10415431
No way, anon. There's plenty of cute hairstyles only accomplished with short hair. I'd honestly just start by looking at lolita wig websites and seeing how they style their shorter wigs.

Im a little person (122 cm height) and i want to wear lolita.
Where can i found dresses that would fit me?

what would be an acceptable offer for a fairly heavily stained JSK that i feel like someone is overpricing? it's listed for like 240 USD rn

>>10415532
Ask for a 30% discount settle for 20%

>>10415513
I don't know how your bust measurement is, so I'm not sure if it would fit, but I know Melody Basket has smaller sizes. Their model for the 120 size is 125cm tall, but she is very young so maybe for your bust the 135 size would work better? The jsks seem to have more room in the bust than OPs. It looks like you can buy from them directly via PayPal, or in the US, Harajuku Hearts posted on their blog that they accept orders.

Does anyone else have a problem with Bodyline not wanting to load after looking through a few pages?

>>10415513
the child-size lolita dresses on taobao. many brands offer them

>>10415334
send another message. they usually answer right away

What's the difference between early 2010s sweet and modern sweet?

>>10415900
modern sweet is way more toned down/casual and not nearly as many good prints around

>>10415900
modern lolita looks like 2010s taobao. really though most new sweet releases look like KL's lost at sea or Infanta from 2010s

>>10415900
what people are referring to as 2010 is intense, sugary, pastel fever dream prints and nice, cotton fabric - milky planet, sugary carnival, merry making party, memorial cake, milky-chan the fawn, star night theater, etc.
modern is more toned-down and kinda low quality in comparison fabric-wise, ala horoscope carnival, chateau d'ecume, dream cat go round, fruity lemon, holy rosary, rose tea garden. basically everything recent but ice cream parlor.
people are just disenfranchised with AP's current direction and this almost exclusively refers to AP, baby and meta are still doing their thing.

>>10415900
polyester

Should I get a wunderwelt original petticoat or a Organza Casual cupcake petticoat?

Should I get a wunderwelt original petticoat or a Organza Casual cupcake petticoat from Melikestea?

>>10415950
get a Organza Casual cupcake petticoat

>>10415127
>>10415513
Why freaks are so eager to wear lolita?

>>10415977
>why do people who don't fit in want to wear the frilly weirdo fashion

Gee that's a real thinker anon

>>10415950
Depends on what poof level you need. The WW petticoat is surprisingly poofy and thick whereas the MLT ones are not as poofy but are more comfortable and you can get a custom length. However they deflate easily. I have both. I only reach for m WW one with dresses that need the volume

>>10415990
nayrt but how would you rate the shape of the WW petti? I always think it looks a little off in the website photos.

>>10415990
Do you happen to know if MLT voile ones are also not as poofy?

>>10415979
This. I'm fine with freaks wearing the fashion because they can't control their height or eyes.

Fatties are a different story.

Where can I find get a bag like pic related?

>>10416062
they were everywhere a few years ago, even on amazon. i'd check taobao and aliexpress.

>>10415900
Cute prints on cotton verses ugly prints on polyester

could somebody help me find the link to purchase this item (assuming it's a print for a JSK/OP)? I don't get much from reverse image search or googling its name for some reason

Where can I find those bat wings headdresses? Those that looks like cute little horns? If I’m not mistaken, they are from an indie brand, but I don’t know which

>>10416179
Antique Beast

>>10416182
Thanks, anon

How common is it for people to not wear lolita, but think about in depth how to coordinate dresses and what hypothetical blouses, head pieces, legwear etc would look good with it as well as what you could buy within your budget even though you'll never wear or buy any of it? I don't think I'll wear lolita, at least in the near future, because I doubt I'll feel pretty in it

Does anyone know who they are? I like their coordinates

>>10414244
I had it happen once - though the seller found damages they didn't see before and refunded my SS.

>>10416226
>lolita at heart

>>10416279
I don't really consider myself a lolita though, since a lolita is a person that wear lolita fashion (it feels sorta rude/disrespectful to call myself a lolita)

>>10416271
the one on the right is victorianme on insta and yt. idk the other one, i don't see this pic on the insta. maybe someone from her comm

Are you supposed to buy new accessories for every print dress you have? Or are there a couple of accessories you spread through all of your coords? I'm having trouble of thinking of something that would fit the latter.

>>10415625
Try clearing your browser cache

>>10416300
i think it depends on what you buy. if you have a few prints with a common theme the accessories can match more than one but often times you do sort of have to buy with every print.

>>10416300
it helps to have a few "basic" accessories in the colours you wear, and then add 2 or 3 specific pieces with each new dress
For instance, everyone can use at least one pearl bracelet or necklace, and stuff in white (sweet/classic) or black (gothic). There are a few basic pieces you should have that'll go with a bunch of your coords like solid-coloured headdresses and jewelry

For classic/gothic, it seems like you can get away with just having brown/black shoes. But what is the best color of shoe for sweet if you want to wear multiple colors but not buy shoes for each one? Can I buy pink shoes and match that with a pink blouse/bag for all of my sweet coords?

>>10416342
If you want to have multiple colored sweet lolita dresses you will probably need multiple colored shoes to go with them, there’s not a lot of shortcuts on this matter. Maybe you could choose one or two accent colors for your dresses and match your shoes with them, but it would narrow your options a lot.

>>10416348
If I want to wear sweet solids, does that mean I have to buy the shoes for each color of the dress?

What's a good way to store a petticoat if you're running low on storage space?

>>10416342
pink is fine. white is also fine.

>>10416367
Put some hooks on the back of your door and hang them there

>>10416367
roll it up and stick it in a bag. the tension of being rolled up (a certain way) actually helps retain the poof

>>10416357
You don’t have to, you can always use an white blouse and white shoes combo, pink blouse and pink shoes combo as you mentioned if the color of your dress matches with pink or even use accessories to balance the shoes if you have such skills, but there is a reason why it’s recommended you stick with some few colors at the start and the reason is being able to experiment with the pieces of your wardrobe without needing to buy specific pieces for every new dress.

>>10416367
Literally scrunch them up and shove them into a gallon size ziplock. The wrinkles actually help to keep your poof

>>10416394
I thought it actually keeps a better fluff to keep them compressed/folded? That's been the cases for mine. They get really fluffy after being scrunched

I got a PayPal invoice from closetchild but I already paid upon checkout. It's not the same amount. What is this for?

>>10416579
Shipping maybe?

An old coord of mine got posted in a dump, and then someone called it ita. Should I ask for concrit?

>>10416648
I wouldn't, outing yourself on /cgl/ is real dicey and there's more to lose than gain.

>>10416648
You can but be warned that if you out yourself, even if you are humbly taking concrit there's alsways some anon that will go out of their way to find dirt on you then post about that instead.

>>10416648
Tried that once. Thing is its very difficult to know who is who on 4chan and absolutely ANY comment can be mistaken by yours. If someone does something stupid and somebody thinks it is you, now that passes as you.
But ofc if you dont care about that, go ahead

>>10416648
if you are really curious, maybe wear it again and if it gets posted again then you can act new and ask to explain why they think it's bad without saying you're the wearer. I'm new and have asked people in the ita thread to explain their reasoning about others' coords and someone helpful usually responds.

>>10416648
you should have just asked what's wrong with it in the thread without saying it was you.

I want to get a tatto, but i wear several different styles (gothic, gothic lolita, old school Lolita, fairy kei)
How do i choose my tattoo style then? I mean i want to do some cupcakes with crystal but they will clash with gothic coords, so...

>>10416705
Get it in a place you don't mind covering for gothic coords. You can be clever with sleeve length, wristcuffs, socks, etc.

>>10416711
this and if you really want to wear something with short sleeves you could always break out the dermablend and setting spray

>>10416650
>>10416652
>>10416670
>>10416675
>>10416679
I don't think there's much dirt on me aside from the fact that I used to identify as nb, but next time I'll just pretend it's not me and ask what's wrong. sigh, I didn't really think it was that ita, just kinda basic and newb-looking since I was new at the time. at least I've since changed the tights, which was the lamest part of the coord.
I guess it was pretty humbling, since there's always room to improve!

>>10416750
it's not about you having dirt lmao, this just happens often with horrible results. usually when people identify their own coords and ask for concrit they get defensive and shit up the thread.

>>10416750
The issue is that once people know you are on here, they will say worst shit to you. Being called ita is fine, but people will start trying to nitpick your body and things you do once they know it can get to you.

Newly into lolita and discovered girlism on Insta. Went to their shop and I see a lot of stuff I like, are they legit? Anyone else buy from them?

>>10416786
who tf cares about that? all anons who identify themselves to "ask for concrit" either defend themselves or go through every single comment and explain why they disagree with it.

>>10416800
This. OP already sounds defensive from the way she keeps saying she thinks it's a good coord.

>>10411574

Is it possible to double team a bloodbath release with 2 computers logged into the same AP USA account or will I need to have my helper make a separate account with my shipping info? I want an item bad and am getting help from my bf but am unsure how to set it up. I guess the safest bet would be separate accounts?

I posted in the gyaru thread, but it's past limit and I'm not sure if there's enough demand for a new one.

>What would you say is the bare minimum needed for make to be considered gyaru? I have seen tutorials that say circle lenses aren't necessary and that westerners don't need to extend the eye shape down because their eyes already have that shape. So is it just having top and bottom false lashes then?

>>10416885
imo you could probably get away without the contacts but the eye-enlargening eyeliner is such an essential component of the gyaru look that if you didn’t do it, you’re just a girl in falsies

>>10416790
Girlism is a Chinese lolita magazine. You can find all the stuff they feature on taobao and/or weibo

>>10416881
Why are you asking people for advice on how to be a piece of shit

>>10416881
i'd recommend trying on wifi and phone connection separately as well, will give you more chances

>>10417014

I fail to see how it is shitty to attempt to get one single version of one item by having someone help me? I clearly had trouble (along with many many others) getting the item just trying on my own. Blame AP for having such low stock that it takes this much effort to get a single item, not me for trying to buy it. Getting help for bloodbath releases isn't uncommon?
>>10417016

Thanks for the tip anon! I'll keep that in mind. If all else fails and I miss it I'll buy a similar item someone dumped in the taobao thread; the brand version is just more appealing to me...

do halter top jsks work on people with large breasts? like, would they start to slip down and pull on the neck or something?

>>10411625
You tried wearing multiples at once? That dress requires top floof

>>10417095
true halter tops or the kind where you just change your jsk straps to be a halter style because chubby? Because the answer to both is yes, your neck will eventually start to hurt if it is what's actually holding up the dress. If you need more support, just pin the dress to your bra in a way that can't be seen.

>If you guys could only get one jsk, which would it be:. Honey Cake or Melty Cream Doughnuts?

>>10417234
I don’t understand the MCD hype and never will. It’s ugly as sin and I only ever see fatties wearing it.

Could this makeup look good with a classic look too?

https://youtu.be/UKKPfYmqf8w

>>10417322
maybe add a bit of blush to even it out.

>>10416705
I think you should focus on the tattoo style you prefer to have for the rest of your life . Do you want to get it in a visible area?
Honestly I have several tattoos of many different styles and none of them really *works* with some of my coors but it doesn't look bad either.
When you have tattoos you come to see them as a part of you (like a mole or smth like that) more than decoration.

Is it weird I can't decide on a single type of lolita, and I would wear all of the styles and brands if I had the time and money. Right now I only have about five main pieces and none of them match.

With regards to j-fashion, I like all types. I have fairy kei, mori, and gyaru pieces.

I feel like I have way too much fomo and can't settle on an identity like an adult. On the other hand, I feel like limiting my fashion is like limiting myself to one kind of food. What am I supposed to do?

>>10417368
There's no need to limit yourself at all, most lolitas don't stick to just one style. You do need to find some initial focus, though, or you'll just end up with a bunch of shit that doesn't match.

What helps for me is banning myself from buying a main piece until I've bought enough things to make a nice outfit with the last main piece I bought. Don't think of it as pigeonholing yourself, there's always time to make outfits in different styles later.

>>10417234

I'd get HC but cotton only...owned MCD and it is cute and the chiffon is nice but I prefer basic cotton dresses to all the floofy chiffon. Plus I like bears so I can use my acessories that I use with Little Bears Cafe and other prints that may work with HC.

>>10417234
I sold my MCD, the cut is horrible compared to any honey cake

>>10417368
i like looking at all the styles, but I've noticed i only buy sweet. none of them match color and theme, but they're definitely sweet. I'd like to branch out more, but it's already a lot to maintain. there's so much variety within just one substyle.

>>10417368
I used to be the same way in both lolita and normie fashion. I learned in lolita it was just too much to maintain. Enough accessories to make a different coord in a bunch of different sub styles/themes is just way way too much stuff and I lost my way. I just got overwhelmed and started buying a ton of different things and somehow still always seemed just one item short of the coord I wanted to make. I had to pare it down to a few capsules, if you want to call it that, that use a bunch of the same accessories and shoes. I have my pastel OTT sweet capsule, my navy/wine rosette capsule, and n old school capsule in black white & red. There are a few special dresses for holidays (Halloween and Christmas) but now it feels manageable. This bled over into my normie fashion too and now instead of having just one decent outfit in a bunch different alt fashions, I’m taking what I love about each and making it into a single cohesive wardrobe that has internal consistency and can be mixed & matched. It’s a work in progress.
I think the secret is learning to say “I like it, but I can appreciate it and not own it” and also to let go of the need to try to match my outer wardrobe with my exact inner state. Humans are too complex to make that realistically achievable without always feeling like you want more and need more to be happy and express yourself. Just find a lolita style that you think is cute and let you and your words express who you really are inside.
Hope it helps, I know my experience isn’t everyone’s

What does “coord” mean? Is it short for “coordination”? Does it refer to how well the individual pieces of an outfit fit or work together? Can “coord” be used as both an adjective and noun? Is it similar to how “fit” is used on /fa/?

>>10417541
coord can be used as verb and noun. It is short for 'coordinate' and describes a lolita outfit

>>10417541
it means the same things coordinate can mean normally.

How can you buy things from ap USA web shop? There's no option to add anything to a cart. Am I having a stroke?

>>10417541
it's the same thing as fit yes, plus a verb as in "you can coord these together"

>>10417564
it should be there anon, the only time it isn't is during releases prior to the release time. if it's not turn off your ad blocker maybe? or use another browser? i have no idea otherwise desu that's weird

>>10417571

It took a couple minutes to appear after 2pm, that's probably why they didn't see it, I had the same problem but got my order for a headbow in; hopefully it goes through. The headbows and jewelry besides rings went immediately.

>>10417573
yeah i'm dumb lol i had no idea there was even a release today, i was thankfully successful in getting bunny stuff from paris so i haven't been paying much attention

anyone know how to restore some structure to a headbow squashed in the mail?

>>10417599
If you're not afraid of the colors running, you can wash the headbow, then "shape" it and let it dry. My headbows always look a lot cuter and poofier after.

>>10417573
had both the strawberry crown headbow and the bunny headbow in my cart. mistyped my card number. lost both. hate my life

>>10417599
use a steamer and shape it that way or what >>10417632 said.

>inb4 metal can rust in a few hours anon shows up

>>10417638
>use chrome
>save CC number and all other info into chrome
>only have to enter CVV
>no need to deal with CC numbers ever again

>>10417647
I thought AP had a paypal option, swear I've paid for stuff through paypal before. So I didn't even think to get my CC ready, and thought II had it memorized anyways. Guess I didn't.

>>10417647

I used my phone and just copied my card number to my clipboard ahead of time and it was fine just typing the date and security code. Only went for one thing cause I didn't want to get booted out of my cart if something went out of stock and its currently listed status is "sourcing from JP warehouse"

>>10417657

AP hasn't taken PayPal since at least HC MTO last year (my first AP USA order after missing the Japan one); not sure why they don't; one more point to BABY and probably Meta as being best brands.

I only like old AP and limited selections of acessories so buying firsthand from them is rare for me. Wish they would release more stock of things. Quality isn't an issue they care about based on their newest stuff and they'd easily make a ton of profit over their polyster and old lady dresses...

>>10417632
>>10417641
thank you!! i'll try it out with a steamer first, then wash it if it's still sad.
>>10417660
AP paris takes paypal, not sure why the other branches don't

>>10417665

Yeah sorry I meant AP USA specifically.

I wonder if they used too but maybe too many Americans got mad and wanted refunds or other annoying shit and they gave up?

>>10417660
I buy something from AP USA maybe once a year, so it's not like I'd notice right away if paypal wasn't an option anymore.

>>10416062
http://www.spreenow.com/taobao-agent/taobao/598775119771?option=com_jumi&fileid=27&shop=taobao&i=598775119771

not the exact bag but i found one similiar

>>10416062
>>10417708
http://www.spreenow.com/taobao-agent/taobao/601834040997?option=com_jumi&fileid=27&shop=taobao&i=601834040997
Found another one

Is it racist to compliment a black lolita that a certain color in her coord goes nice with her skin?

>>10417729
It's not racist but they likely get "wow pastel yellow looks so nice with your skin!! it only washes me out!!!" or some variation a lot so i'd just not, even if it's true

can ita bags be worn with lolita or is well....ita?

>>10417776
Its bags aren’t inherently ita, it depends on if the bag itself matches the lolita aesthetic. Most don’t, but some do

>>10417729
why not just say "(whichever color) looks nice on you!" and not specify why exactly

>>10417729
mentioning skin color is very offensive to black people. even if you just say "your skin is so beautiful." they consider it "othering" or whatever

Wunderwelt has these happy bags right now and I'd love to get them! However, I feel like it's a bit of a risk since I don't know the sizing.. What's the average bust/waist size for their brands (MILK, ETC, JM)?

can anyone ID these shoes?

How Freesize are Triple Fortune's skirts? I am unfortunately a fatty

When considering the sizing of lolita dresses, when they refer to waist size, should I use my underbust/rib measurements instead (I'm new to lolita and I hear that lolita dresses are very tight). My waist measurement is 24.5 inches and my underbust/rib measurement is 30 inches

>>10418370
Depends on the cut of the dress. If it’s obviously high waisted go with the underbust. Older pieces tend to sit closer to the natural waist, new pieces slightly higher, maybe just at the bottom of the rib cage for the “normal/just” waist dresses

Newfag here, can someone explain what differentiates Otome from Casual Lolita when some Otome coordinates look like they could pass as the latter?

These: loliable or nah?

Will I go to hell for commissioning a solid replica of a dress I have not been able to find in over 5 years? It wouldn’t be exactly the same but similar enough to make you wonder if it was real I guess

>>10418496
Nah