/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

How they could be improved, honestly just more experience and organization, and I think this month of online events will help that in itself. Everyone’s seen events know, organizers know what works, know what doesn’t work, and they’ll be able to make events better because of that, and I’m honestly excited to see which online events keep going, ESPECIALLY once the world is back to normal!

>>10425841
Resolucia looks really cute, I'm having high hopes for them. I just wish idol groups would actually debut with content already prepared to showcase their skills instead of just promoting images and graphics first. I get teaser images and videos are a thing, but the actual content should follow up very soon otherwise it could lead to a lot of people being hyped up over something that could be disappointing. This isn't directly at these girls, I've seen others do it as well. At least with them they seem a bit promising. and I know that covid has pushed back a lot of things and made things impossible.

>>10425900
I can agree with this but also I get some groups start early promotions in order to raise money for their projects like Reso is doing. But also why should people invest in something that might just be a flop? I feel like you should at least try and get off the ground on your own first before asking people to invest.

Also I guess people just stopped caring about people meeting during the pandemic? Not calling anyone specific out but I noticed a couple of groups as well as Reso have started to do meet ups with each other to keep content going.

>>10425900
I appreciate the wigless photos! It kinda makes me wonder if they're planning on going wig-free for all live stuff (since they all have hairstyles that closely resemble their characters) or if they're gonna don wigs for performances and such. Either way, it's nice that they're also embracing the people that they are, the seiyuu side, and not just the characters they're playing.

>>10425841
Out of all the online festivals, I liked the Chocolate Idol Showcase best so far. Theirs was very smooth, they had very good content, and although the end song was.... well not edited well.

Did anyone watch? Who did you all like? Clover and Juju were amazing, and I appreciate Kuro doing hers live, though I think she could work a little harder on her vocal and breath control.
Chiyo Hime did Blend S, which is my favorite anime opening song, so I liked that it wasn’t butchered.
The rest were pretty good too, though I didn’t feel they stood out as much as these four.

Shining idol festival’s first time was horrible so I have low expectations for it. The fact that SIP is headlining again and it seems to be a really poor lineup is even more of a reason to me not to watch.

As for London Idol Festival, there were a couple of acts that I sort of liked.
Lita was the best out of all of them, but the festival was very low quality overall. The ones who dropped out kind of dogged a bullet.

>>10425980
Exactly. At least with the works of Stellure and whatever the other group was after that, people can have somewhat of an expectation for this new project. But even so, I think it's more admirable when the groups upfront the costs of their first projects to prove that they're worthy of supporting. It makes me think they may be a bit more humble or at least hard working enough to do the first set of heavy lifting themselves.

>>10426049
Who did you like besides pita? And what made it low quality

>>10426189
I’d have to skim it again as I can hear the song but can’t remember the Performer.

The low quality was from some of the video submissions having very poor quality content, the majority of singers themselves weren’t good (Delacui is tone deaf and Jenny still can barely distinguish notes from each other, holly can’t really dance and Sakura has stagnated on her idol growth yet again which frustrates me to no end)
The two live performers had serious sound issues (I guess I can’t blame them but this is why live performers should do sound checks at least twice in a 48 hour period to make sure cut outs didn’t happen And to check their WiFi before performing)
Some of the videos were also blurry and looked like they were uploaded in 360p and 480p which was irritating.
I also didn’t like SYA just submitting their music video. Don’t get me wrong it’s an ok song, but I feel like they could have put just a tiny bit of effort into preparing a cover video with them doing that “come together” video project style so many are doing.
Grace also was a bad MC. Her camera angle and quality were abysmal, the technical stuff was completely avoidable had she been testing things a week prior and learning how to do smooth transitions, and she’s just not very charismatic as an MC.
I won’t lie, I was looking forward to Melancholiaah, Acacia, I think Alex was slated to be in the festival but I can’t remember and KH, but after seeing The stories of melancholiaah and alex say they wouldn’t do it because of the allegations, and KH dropping because of the racism and harassment she was facing, my expectations for this festival dropped to zero.
Anyone else feel free to disagree, I’d love to hear what you all thought.


I actually can’t wait for Music Matsuri desu. They’re the only festival that has a different name so it automatically stands out to me. My expectations for this one is a little higher since the name is more memorable.

>>10426357
SYA already has one of those "come together" videos, they did one with some idol groups in Japan I believe. They probably thought London Idol Fest was so trash, it wasn't worth the effort.

>>10425980
A lot of states aren’t on lockdown anymore unfortunately. But it doesn’t matter for smaller groups because 3-5 people isn’t an issue in fact it’s the ideal. I think Reso meeting up now (and seemingly in private) is a lot better than Auracle meeting up clearly in public while everything was still at its height. As long as everyone takes precaution I’m not too pressed. Just don’t do it every day or 3-5 times a week.

You know I always thought these threads were made because seagulls wanted to start an idol group together and these threads highlighted the competition between the competing seagulls. What I discovered when I skimmed through these posts is you nerds be kpop Stans.

>>10426371
I think we’re very much in a height still. But we don’t know these people personally. Like Reso’s post said they made sure to quarantine before and after. I agree we shouldn’t be pressed as long as people are trying their best to be safe.

I think it’s cute Reso met up pretty much as soon as she got to florida.

>>10426478
People are still allowed to meet up, it's just we can't have large gatherings right now, so I agree, it's not that big of a deal if these little groups meet up

Does anyone know any other festivals/collaborations that are set to happen?

>>10425841
>>10409330

Well the idea of sexy idols in Japan is that when you are not as talented as someone following the Jpop diva footsteps. I asked this question a couple of years ago why outside of egirls there isn't many jidols with hip hop influence like Kpop

>>/jp/thread/S19893902#p19900753
Plus being edgy doesn't really click with the audience in Japan who knows you are gonna age out of this, acting like you are playing your Gyaru friends makeup and wardrobe acting sexy

so is Reso just a full on three person group? I think they should have at least done some idol content but theyre already selling a shit ton of merch.

>>10427421
Okay look, I'm excited to see what they produce too, but you need to chill lol. (Assuming you're the one who's been asking weirdly pressing questions about them the last few threads). If you follow Meotashi on Insta, you know she was only able to move into her new house three weeks ago. And even still, Reso already met up to record what looks to be like a radio drama or something, they're not just sitting back collecting merch money. The biggest contributing factor to Stellure's explosion was having too many members to coordinate, and trying to churn out quantity over quality content. I'm more than happy to see them take their time and produce quality content as a small group instead of making it Stellure 2.0, and I don't understand people getting antsy about how they're not making content when there are idols that literally produce like one song a year. They're a brand new group, let them settle in lol.

>>10425841
Could we start a dialogue about holding groups accountable for meeting up for idol stuff during this pandemic?

I saw the members of Peachy Parade posted about all/most of them doing a photoshoot together today, which is insanely irresponsible considering they're in Georgia...

I'm losing massive respect for any group that meets up during this. No hobby is worth people dying.

>>10427815
This is why I love being a soloist....

>>10427815
I think it depends on a couple things, like how big the group is, where they're located, and how often they meet up. And, to a certain extent, how safe the members are being in their day-to-day lives. I've seen small groups meeting up and as long as they're not doing much outside of the meetups, there's a much smaller chance any of them will infect each other. You could argue that any sort of interaction is too much, and I think that's your right, but I also understand really missing your friends and wanting to meet up as safely as possible from time to time.

Has anyone seen the discourse on lewding minors with cosplay in the idol community? I saw people posting about it on Twitter and others vaguing about it on Instagram

>>10427869
Yeah. PP is a large group with a lot of members in a state that is not caring about the people in it getting infected. They didn't need to meet up for a photo shoot right now. I agree some groups its fine, but this is a huge instance of it not being fine. Very stupid of them to do that.

>>10427815
Lmfao you gotta be kidding me. Look at the stats. You have a better chance of being hit by a truck.

>>10427874
Did they post any pictures together? They could have separated themselves or practiced good distancing and hygiene the whole time and we would never know.

>>10427874
For all we know, they could’ve all tested before meeting and practiced social distancing during it. I think it’s unnecessary to be meeting during this time, but there’s so many groups that have been meeting for practice and photoshoots, and I’m sure it’s making other groups feel more inclined to do so as well. If they get sick that’s on them for not being more careful, but I don’t think it’s worth “losing respect” over.

I find it ironic. Even if groups are taking proper precautions when meeting up, as they’re allowed to because the government has allowed it, people get upset. It’s also closed spaces and not public areas. It seems like a damned if you do damned if you don’t (because people will still complain about no content) situation which really sucks.

>>10427429
ok mimi

>>10427877
Ehh, this isn't really the thread to be debating the seriousness of covid, but we're well on track to have 1% of Americans infected before long. It doesn't sound like a big chance, but that's still a shitload of people because there are 330 million people here. Definitely better chances than of getting hit by a truck. But that's off topic so I digress. I do hope that groups are meeting up as safely as possible.

>>10427936
nah man. I'm on the other end of the country lol. I just noticed that there's like one or two anons who have been asking weirdly demanding and pointed questions about Resoluscia ever since they announced bios, and I can't tell if they're just trying to shit talk or are a crazy fan, but either way they need to chill.

>>10427929
Americans are so stupid.... stop fucking meeting up with each other. Why do you all want to die? Who really cares if there’s no content, if they care they’re a retard who wants you to get sick and spread the virus? This is why your country is dying.

>>10427923
The CDC has advised people not to meet up in large groups for unnecessary things, like parties or hobbies. The main spread of COVID is coming from people meeting up for these things. A group meeting up right now is unnecessary.... the US government does not care about people getting sick and is open for money.

>>10428075
Hey man do me a favor and maybe calm the fuck down? You sound angry for no fucking reason if you’re not even American. Why do you care so much?

When it comes down to it there's no excuse to be meeting up with other people during this pandemic but I also think we should just leave people to live their lives. As long as they are still being safe in public spaces (wearing masks and distancing when needed) I honestly dgaf. And we have no grounds for deciding whether or not they are or aren't because we aren't there to see it. There are people advocating for everyone to stay inside meanwhile they themselves are still going to see friends and getting together. People getting pissy and wanting to cancel groups or individuals just want something to be mad about cause I gaurantee just about everyone in this community is still going out and meeting up with others.

>>10428091
No, we're not. The world is trying its hardest to pause all activities. No one should be meeting up and people are allowed to be upset that people are endangering others just because they want to pretend to be idols. It's a fair thing to be upset about, a lot of people are dying and its disrespectful to act like it's completely fine to go do photoshoots and record things.

>>10427923

PP should release a statement about what precautions they took before they decided to get together or it's spreading the message they think its fine to gather like normal

>>10428111
If you're really worried about it then you should just message them about it cause I doubt PP cares about anon forums.

>>10428187
this is a stupid post. who cares if they care or not??? do we only discuss what groups will care about? now that i think about it, though, every other group is saying something when they meet up. i’m judging them for not having the foresight in the first place. they’re all adult women and should know better.

>>10428196
But they’ve not even made any sort of post about having a photoshoot on their official pages, only a few posts on personal pages, so who knows what they will or won’t say yet.

>>10428111
Should we just point out every group then that has met up recently and haven't made a statement? Cause. There's quite a few.

>>10428111
Idols releasing statements isn't a bad idea. It at least shows they're conscious of what's going on and can make them seem like better role models. Even if they're just straight up lying at least it's better than pretending like everything is normal again lol. And when I see professional idols in Asia continue their activities, there are disclaimers about the precautions their taking about covid to make fans more at ease.

>>10428187
This lol. If you're that pressed about it, just message them. Don't be anon about it. If you want to be such a good citizen, take the time and inform them and give them a lecture. Why are you afraid to message them if you think you're so right about how to handle things?

>>10428261
yeah, we should. communities need to hold each other accountable for this. gaming tournaments are getting bombarded if theyre still hosting events for example. idols are allowed to hold each other accountable for being tonedeaf about the pandemic.

>>10428267
its not a fans job to lecture and inform their favs if they dont want to. everyone in the entire world knows not to gather right now, if you don't you've been living under a rock thats under a rock.

>>10428261
I was shocked to see SYA met up and didn’t stress the importance of responsible social distancing....

>>10427890
The members posted selfies with each other, and one of the members, yeji I think, posted a video on her story where she did that chin on hand thing with each member. I think if they at least practiced social distancing during the photo shoot it would've been okay, but they were all bunched together and touching, which, if even one of them were exposed, would spread it to all of them. It's not even a matter of them getting sick, it's the matter of them possibly spreading it to other vulnerable people. Especially being in Georgia.

>>10428285
How are you holding anyone accountable on anonymous forums

>>10428346
yeah im sure peach parade is about to be responsible for the next big spike in Georgia bc of a photo shoot

>>10428369
What’s the difference between Reso’s meetup being ok and PP’s not being ok? The number of members.. sure ok... it’s just bias.

>>10428372
Florida has double the amount of cases but okay lol

>>10428386
That furthers their point.

>>10428369
Dude the issue isn't them causing a spike, which they won't, it's the possibility of them affecting someone who is high risk. Of course they won't cause a big spike, we're not idiots, but we have the morals to know that even one person's life isn't worth it. Get your head on straight. And we don't know whether they practiced proper social distancing before they met up, which is exactly why there is an issue. They never said that they practiced proper social distancing before meeting, and the probability of them having gone out is the same as the probability of them not having gone out. We can't assume that they have been keeping away from the public if not necessary and doing what they can to not meet up with lots of people. The point is that, in a state like Georgia where the number of cases is growing exponentially because of carelessness and disregard for other people, it is irresponsible for them to meet up in a large group (without social distancing while there) without acknowledging that it isn't the best idea in this situation and revealing whether they were safe and proper in preparations to do so. It would've even been less bad if they didn't act like everything was normal, and didn't spread the message that things are normal and that people can meet up and do what they want if it's "for content". If they want to act like they are on the path to becoming professional idols, they should handle announcements and actions like real idols. Reso's meetup is also not really okay, but they at least made an announcement stating that they are aware of the risks and that they practiced proper social distancing and safety prior and during their meetup.

>>10428464
This goes to any other group that's meeting up casually right now. It's a slap in the face to the people that are actually trying to control their exposure to others and trying to have a hand in lessening the severity of this situation.

>>10428366
You act like the idols don’t read this thread. They say they don’t and act like the comments here don’t hurt them but I absolutely guarantee you, they do.

They’ll see it

>>10428474
people want to know what's being said about them even if they pretend they've never touched this thread

>>10428464
pretty sure that comment was sarcasm lol

>>10428372

So from what I've seen, none of the Reso members actually posted anything on their story while they were meeting up, only posted photos after the fact, and they acknowledged that they felt safe to do so because they were a small group and were self isolating before and after.

With Auracle people got upset because they went out when stay at home policies were much more strict in Florida, and they had written in their caption and story something along the lines of "lol don't copy what we're doing" or "we're social distancing don't worry" while they clearly weren't. However, they are a smaller group so it probably wasn't that bad but they were the first.

PP is being irresponsible by meeting in such a large group, posting about it on their personal stories, and not addressing it on main.

They're honestly not the only ones though. Many groups are meeting up again from what I can see.

>>10428484
I understand the importance of taking precautions, but I think it’s important to keep in mind where each group is and what the situation in their area is like. Some states and countries are a lot worse off than others.

>>10428479
Yeah, obviously, but the point of the comment was that it's not that big of a deal that peachy parade met up because they won't cause a big spike. My point was that it shouldn't be blown off because they won't affect a large number of people. I was saying that the possibility of affecting even one person should be enough for them to not meet or at least acknowledge how it's far from okay to do so. I should've made that clearer.

>>10428490
While I agree, all we can do is speculate since they’ve not really said anything, and I’d personally rather focus on something more positive.

Aren’t there other idol showcases that have recently happened or are coming up soon? I’ve only been able to catch the CIN one so I’d like to see others if I haven’t already missed them.

>>10428501
The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Music Matsuri and that Anibraveto one

>>10428563
London Idol Fest plans to turn theirs into a monthly showcase.....

>>10428591
woohoo! no offence to grace but she can't sing and is a terrible host. I hope she looses some weight or gets a better camera next time

Anyone listen to Kurohime's song yet?

>>10429225
It's honestly not awful and treats the subject matter with the respect it deserves, but I'm honestly a bit uncomfortable with how many of the vocalists are white...

>>10429238
Agreed, but joining the collaboration was completely voluntary, it's not like anyone could make more black singers participate. Kuro Hime seemed very happy and grateful for the amount of people who volunteered to help, even thought most of them were white. It's also kind of symbolic that the white voices were all in the background, supporting her rather than taking the spotlight. But I agree, it would have been cool to see more black voices involved in the project.

>>10429246
I was in the discord server when she asked for soloists. She specified that she primarily wanted black vocalists, but would accept whoever volunteered. It looks like not many black people volunteered, which kind of shocked me.

>>10429299
idk much other black idols besides paida and chiyo that sing or at least have vocal covers out unless I'm missing something

>>10429392
There are a couple. I was just replying to anon that she definitely tried to find black voices. Personally I think that the subtle message that white voices should step back so black voices can speak was nicely implied.

Replying to >>10429238 I felt she did well in translating the message. I mean yeah, it could have used more black voices, but since it was voluntary I think it was done very well.

>>10428187
Pp and their fans troll these boards so hard. Everyone knows this (watch when someone replies to this)

Paida’s final audition was today. Like most expected, she didn’t pass, and she wasn’t allowed to do the audition in person. Anyone got any thoughts?

>>10429792
She probably wasn't allowed to audition in person cause she had just flown in from the US. Since our coronavirus stuff is so much worse here than in Japan, it's understandable that they'd have wanted her to be showing no symptoms for two weeks before attending an in person audition, and that just wasn't possible for this time frame. It's still great that she made it so far, and now she can relax and work on activities with her other group.

>>10429792
Yea she got far and did well who cares

>>10429792
It sucks that she didn't make it to the end, but she did really well in a tough situation! Plus, she still has that Amaterasu Girls group to fall back on, so it's not so bad!

>>10429833
Awww are you bitter or are you jealous?? It’s ok to admit your feelings.

Anyway >>10429822 and >>10429965 I agree. I was very proud of her, and I’m glad she still has the other group to work with.
I wish she had gotten to leave sooner so that she could have quarantined in time for the audition.

>>10429968
>being matter of fact makes anon jealous
grow up

>>10429973
You first darlin

>>10429792
Her group was so cute when they all called her name, they really supported each other all the way!!

>>10429822
I’m surprised they let her fly to Japan at all. There’s a no-entry restriction on tons of countries including the US. The only way the restrictions would relax is if she had a permanent resident visa. How even?

>>10430937
I was following her stories on this one, she got special permission from immigration to go back for the audition. The US, to my understanding Of the storyline, was dragging knuckles on letting her leave so she missed her quarantine period.

Because she’s in Amaretsu too, I think they may let her stay for a little bit.

>>10430946
I wonder if they'll let her stay just to prevent unnecessary travel, honestly - it seems like a potentially worse decision to send her back to America than to let her stay now that she's already there

>>10430946
I highly doubt Japan would let her back in the country to audition for an entertainment group while not on the proper visa. You’re not even supposed to job hunt or go to interviews while on a tourist visa. There are even many people on spouse visas or PR who are unable to get back into the country to help raise their babies and young children in what is their only home because of the situation. I imagine it’s more because she had to leave the country suddenly due to her family’s dire health situation, and then return to finish all the loose ends of her previous stay, like her living situation. Japan is only letting a handful of people back in the country every month, she is incredibly fortunate to have been able to return. They aren’t going to give you special immigration status so you can give it your best shot at being an idol.

>>10431028
She was in school for study abroad, so she must be on student visa. You can work on a student visa to my understanding, but part time?

>>10431186
A student visa isn’t on the list of those allowed reentry at this moment. Only permanent and long term residents. She doesn’t qualify, so it’s a little strange.

>>10431028
>I imagine it’s more because she had to leave the country suddenly due to her family’s dire health situation
This is a legitimate reason on the list, but I remember her leaving due to her program forcing her. She made a post talking about her trying to skip out of being sent back, but they threatened her school credits.

>>10431714
I don’t think she was trying to skip out but genuinely did not see why they wanted to send her back when it was safer for her to stay put. Them threatening her credits was really fucked up though.

>>10431712
Student visa can grant you long term resident status, which is on the list of re-entry permits

>>10432450
While student visas can be for extended amount of time, a long term visa is a completely different type of visa. Student visas aren’t allowed reentry right now per the guidelines unless truly exceptional circumstances. Many people completely undergrad and grad degrees we’re forced to go back to their countries and not allowed reentry. She wasn’t even completing a full degree program in Japan. It was just a small program.

>>10432790
I fucked the word order all up. Sorry about the typos.

Music Matsuri is this weekend. Any thoughts on the announced participants?

Also, shining idol fest released their schedule. What day are you most looking forward to?

>>10425841
why is most cosplay girl average as fuck

Saw today that Kei posted that she is in another group. just how many projects is she involved in?

>>10433035
I have no idea. Atleast 5, definitely, if not more like 7-8.

>>10433035
Why is this ever a point of discussion how many projects someone is in? If they can manage it who cares?

>>10433665
because no one has been able to manage it yet.

>>10433673
Considering most people are doing this for fun, they're just hopping onto whatever new style they get into. With that, I don't care if they're in 100 groups or whatever. I'm more interested in seeing what new creativity can be found with people experimenting in different styles and working with different people. Besides, people in bands hop around from band to band and have members switch here and there. line-ups change, it's a real thing and not that weird.

>>10433680
THIS. Also there was just a discussion in the last thread about pengy hopping from multiple groups and projects and the only concern was her not to burn herself out but there was hardly any negativity or doubt on her end. As long as the people involved are okay with someone being part of multiple projects and it's handled okay then it's not our role to judge. Like this anon said, it's interesting to see where things go.

>>10433680
I wish people normalized just pushing out projects as collabs instead of having to make an entire new group everytime someone wants to do a cover with someone from another group. Almost like some people base their self-worth off of being in a titled group that can gain followers rather than just simply working with other people and promoting under their own accounts and main group....Shits up and adds to the list of the million Florida groups when they're all consisting of the same batch of people in slightly different lineups.

>>10433782
I get that. But also sometimes it's easier and more freeing to promote on a separate page than to promote on already established group pages that may have their own thing or theme going on. And if you plan on doing more than one collab with a group of people under a unique fun concept, I think it's fine to explore that.

>>10433796
Same anon but also imagine if you are following multiple groups and they all post the same promo on their page and suddenly your timeline is flooded with it. Rather than the alternative of one page dedicated to the project and every group sharing to their stories.

>>10433782
Even so, I really don't care about it. I'm just happy people active and doing things and giving us a variety of stuff to look at. Anyone taking a group seriously that they want to take off in popularity is not making a smart move by participating in so many projects because you're attention is divided which will result in run-down quality, but as I've seen so many people say, "it's just for fun" then if that's what makes then have fun then so be it.

>>10433797
This. That way if I"m not interested in their project, I can just choose not to follow, but I can still keep up to date with the other thing they do that I like.

>>10433782
>the list of the million Florida groups when they're all consisting of the same batch of people in slightly different lineups

That's one of the issues in the state for both the cosidol groups and original groups. There really aren't a lot of people in the idol scene here.

Some recent updates:

ChiRi Girls - Welcome to the Pep Squad 2.0 (channel intro video but still cute)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5wBdMZkqbc&t=0s
Alex Pinku - Scarlet Sky (Afterglow) cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR5tW4ji5fQ
Calina - AnisonUSA performance digests
(1, just vocals) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssJs1GYDJwE&t
(2, vocals + dance) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lS1tyyog7k
Jenni Bon - Planet Loop (HikaruStation Vocals)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTUoT8DoN90
Lulu Dayou - Renai Reality Sho (CY8ER)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmwuYjjXxx4&t
Pheobe - Wishing (Re:Zero)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKEAy1YW9_k
COS-MiX - Say So (Japanese ver.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6AeG-TMMbc
Koneko - One & Only
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI6qGG1sUZQ
Auracle - Sally the Witch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-hKG5pFZ28


I hadn't seen this talked about yet and was surprised. It was an incredibly turnout for this challenge and really showcased 52 idols from around the world! The backing song is family name by ZOC.
The World's Idols - see you soon collaboration - : Pass The Penlight hosted by melancholiaaah!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1mRLVuyKOQ

I have a question for you: Does doing dance workouts like the stuff you see on popsugar fitness and so on improve your dancing abilities?

>>10434274
If you take it seriously and look at the way you’re moving. Your body will get used to the movements and you’ll learn what works. Plus stamina.

I think the problem with festivals for me personally is I can never find them in time

what festivals are this weekend? it is hard to keep track

>>10434663

Music Matsuri is tomorrow, and that's the only one I know of this weekend.

Music Matsuri V happening now
http://www.twitch.tv/musicmatsuriv

>>10435296
Vivacu actually pleasantly surprised me so much. I gave up on supporting them after they didn't do anything for months, but their new song was such high quality. The mixing and vocals were really good too. They should be the standard for other groups to live up to when it comes to original songs and vocal covers.

>>10425841
a new idol group in Japan appeared called Yumepedia I’m a huge fan of manaspace and cant wait for their debut coming up online

>>10434668
>>10435523

I agree! Vivacu new cover was really good. I was disappointed there were not a lof of live singing desu. Even Feebee just did lipsynch..

>>10435662
Agreed and on top of that...there were some acts that were not that well executed. Cherry was...not good.

>>10435560
It’s weird how OIC is a thing but we never talk about oversea idols except London and Paida
Speaking of which why did paida leave japan when it fucked her over and she lost>>10431028
>There are even many people on spouse visas or PR who are unable to get back into the country to help raise their babies and young children in what is their only home because of the situation
Thats not true don’t spread misinformation

>>10435560
It’s weird how OIC is a thing but we never talk about oversea idols except London and Paida
Speaking of which why did paida leave japan when it fucked her over and she didnt pass
>>10431028
>There are even many people on spouse visas or PR who are unable to get back into the country to help raise their babies and young children in what is their only home because of the situation
Thats not true don’t spread misinformation. It’s weird that she somehow made it in and some are saying she never left japan and begged for money.

>>10435680
Cherry was flat the entire time and it bothered me.... a lot. I would have liked it more had it had some live vocals, be it prerecorded or during the matsuri

>>10435688
No one talks about the other idols because in my opinion no one thinks they’re good or worth supporting. Even some who are decent and trying to improve don’t get recognition because they aren’t Paida, Melancholiaah or Phoebe levels of good, and no one is willing to give them a chance. Not only that, not many original idols put out decent quality anything. Add to the fact that people think cosplayers= idols and it’s the perfect storm.

>>10435705
Yumepedias online tickets that cost ¥5000 sold out immediately. The people in the group make their own material and sing. Yet everyone here circle jerks lovelive covers with no singing and if they do its lip-syncing. Paidas singing voice is god awful compared to the actual idols living in Japan too

>>10435680
Which acts do you think were good and which were not?

>>10435688
I mean she posted nearly continuously on her story for her trip from Japan back to Texas...and also filmed a video while back in Texas for the Chocolate Idol Showcase. I don't know who type hearing those rumors from but that's honestly ridiculous. Anyway, the visa discussions in this thread and last one are getting boring. It's up to anyone traveling and working in Japan to figure out their own visa shit and make it work, so it seems pointless to discuss it here.

>>10435826
No one is even talking about that, retard.

>>10435730
Good: Risa Rosé, Vivacu.
The rest was meh. Riratan's song has a lot of potential, but the video was really cringey. Cherry was flat but her video was nice! And at least I think she was really singing. It wasn't live but at least it was a one-shot. Feebee was disappointing since it was just lipsynching. StarShine Brigade was cringey af. And I don't really understand why the flutist considers herself an idol. I didn't get there in time to see Ice Qream sadly so I can't comment!

>>10435862
Risa was phenomenal, but it would have been nice if she had recorded it for the festival and not reused footage. The audience was distracting from her performance. Vivicu's new cover was really cool, but their original song just being an image was pretty boring. I didn't find Riratan's video cringy though. It was at least above midtier for the community and the locations were really nice!

>>10435868
Effort was put in Rira's video and she looked like she was having fun, so that's the least I can ask for. I was pleasantly surprised with it!

It would be nice if idols making their own videos could color correct their footage so it would look more professional. a little tweaking here and there to make all of the different clips come together a lot better.

As more idols release original music, how do people feel about them releasing music in Japanese? It seems most either speak it or have someone who does write the lyrics, but as more and more music is released, we're bound to start getting google translate Japanese songs.

I feel like star shine brigade would work better either as soloists or doing songs that weren't 100% harmonies.... They all had strong points but with a better song and a bit of a better production audio wise and video wise, they could be a pit better

>>10435949
As long as they seek out a translator I don’t care. They should work on pronunciation tho for sure

>>10435862
I didn't see anything cringy about Riratan's video, it was pretty. Everyone's singing was alright, but I agree with the other anons saying that all the lipsyncing videos were a little disappointing. There probably would have been even more tech problems involved with getting everyone to livestream in, but live vocals at the moment of recording would have been exciting.

Has anyone seen IceQream's part?

>>10435949
>>10436078
my problem is it will sound stiff unless they are either native or use japanese regularly. you can't put the same kind of emotion across unless you practice it a certain way.

>>10436336
I did. It was just recycled performance material.

Tbh MMV was a bit of a letdown just because almost everyone used either recycled material or lipsynced.

>>10435862
Also I don’t means to double post but I think the flautist only considers herself a meme coverist.... I agree, she really shouldn’t be in idol festivals if that’s the case, and frankly speaking, neither should the pianist/ “producer” for zolar flare. It’s bad enough he covers nothing but 2D idols, but his “originals” sound too much like the music he covers.

>>10436497
I rather see the pianist than the flautist if either had to be at idol festivals. At least he is more related to idols than her.

>>10436531
I mean yeah kind of, but he’s also completely cringey and I noticed he uses other people’s posts and work to promote his own stuff, which imo is rude.

>>10438092
He is CONSTANTLY promoting other idols and supporting them on his page and on their content. He’s also a genuine fan of overseas idols, and will no doubt create opportunities for idols when he starts finding voice actors for his characters and fully producing his originals.

Commenting at all is hugely helpful for algorithms. Even if he makes the comment about himself, that comment is helping your reach. No reasonable person should be bothered by this. It’s obvious he’s a very nice, genuine person and has some serious talent.

>>10438098
YOU may find that endearing, but -I- and a few others do not it endearing at all.

I don’t care how much talent he has, he should promote his stuff on his own posts and not use someone else’s promotional posts.
His originals also sound like he heavily “borrowed“ from im@s, bandori and love live too....

inb4 “you sound like you’re jealous”. Not at all. He is sweet and he definitely does promote others, but he also tends to take over stuff and make things all about him which is annoying as hell when you’re just trying to promote your stuff.

>>10438214
I agree with this but also all idol music sounds pretty much the same so why is it weird for him to write an idol song that sounds like...an idol song?

>>10438214
You're mildly annoyed for what? He comments about himself sometimes...?
Zeta flare is one of the few positive things in this community. Leave him alone.

I personally like the flautist and zeta in these fests, it keeps it interesting, and they're actually nice to listen to.

>>10438347
THIS. Both Flautist Acacia and Zeta are absolute sweethearts, and you say you’re not jealous sure, but you just sound like a nasty elitist. Keep your negativity to yourself, because this community doesn’t want that.

>>10438386
They dont promote themselves AS IDOLS, so yeah people shouldnt get mad at them being in fest because ultimately it's up to the organizer to include who they want on their show. Having people that play instruments gives some variety and can ultimately help people with making original music in the future.

Hey, Zeta is on the spectrum. Try to cut him some slack if he tends to make things about himself. He's just excited.

One of the difficult things about being on the spectrum is trying to balance "relating with people" to "making things about yourself". It's not something people with autism have an innate sense for, so they can pretty much only learn from watching others. A lot of people relate to others by sharing something similar about themselves, and I believe that's what Zeta is doing in his posts. It does come across sometimes as self-promotion, but I genuinely think it's because he's trying to relate with the person he's responding to. All of his idol OCs are based on his own struggles and those of the overseas idols he's friends with, so by referencing his own content, he's connecting his experiences with others. It's not easy for someone on the spectrum to balance contributing to a conversation vs one-upping them, so I agree with the "cut him some slack" anon.

Shining Idol Fest is live right now

>>10440309
Thank goodness they shut up about 2d boys

>>10440313
their stream crashed for the second time lol. also love how they blamed people dropping out of the festival for why they had to talk about 2d boys for so long.

I've some shared posts about Shining Idol Fest and it looked like people had used old footage so it looked a bit boring

>>10440328
I have literally zero expectations when it comes to shining idol fest at this point.

>>10440327
The host are insufferable. They blame everything on others without trying to come up with a real solution. Is it true they will stop after the next fest?

>>10440328
>>10440309
>>10440327
I'm so glad I didn't bother watching. It sounds like it was just as expected: low quality.

Also SYA released Unending Melody today. Anyone got any opinons or thoughts on it?

>>10440466
It sounds nice but it's also very basic

>>10440328
>>10440313
Sage for slight OT but it seems like so many male idol game fans are annoying as hell about the fact that they play them. Is it because the games themselves aren't popular/localized and they want people to get into them? Granted, the games themselves aren't bad but any time I've interacted with the fans, they're ~*nawt like other girls cuz they hate love live uwu*~

>>10440517
THIS. I don't like being looked down upon by these higher than thou ~im so special~ fujoshis. They act like kpop fans.

>>10440521
Just let people like what they like it’s not like the male idol fandoms are huge outside of Japan anyways. It’s nice though that people are getting into more varying types of idols. That should make the community more interesting. But bullying people out who might not fit into your image of an idol fan isn’t cool at all~

>>10440328

I don't know if I'm remembering this wrong but wasn't it part of the rules that you had to have new material which hadn't been used elsewhere?

>>10440600
A couple of other idol fests have made that a rule now, but I don't think Shining has. Off the top of my head, the AniBraveTo competition had a complete exclusivity rule (so you can't use old footage or use it anywhere else after the show), and AniBeat had a basic "no old footage" rule.

>>10440579
Triggered? Can't read? We will never know.

No one was saying it's wrong to like male idols. It's the attitudes of male idol fans that are the problem. The way shining idols blamed drop outs for making them talk about male idols for so long left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

You can like male idols but don't be suprised if you have a self centered fujoshi personality that scares people away.

>>10440663
Your acting like the whole male idol fan base acts like a few select people. Maybe be a bit more open minded. Also don’t judge others you don’t even know I’m not even a fujoshi nor do I like the Fetishization of gay people. As that is gross and creepy af. Funny I said not to bully and this is exactly what your doing. Maybe also try to be nicer I think that’s something you can work on. You can make so many friends that way in this community or any community for that matter!

>>10440579
>>10440680
Hello shining idols

>>10440681
I’m not them as I think they have a lot to work on in terms of quality, I’m just so over people bullying people on any topic on here. I didn’t even watch the live any of them so forgive me for trying to be positive, if they where that fujoshi then it would be considered creepy. Sorry I can’t give people the benefit of the doubt. Maybe I should have watched them, before speaking but your also speaking in general terms. Which is what I have an issue with. I just want people to be more open minded, and not hypocritical.

>>10440309
I think that todays Shining Idol Fest lineup is pretty good.

>>10440681
Cause defending anyone on this forum means it must be that person. Grow up.

>>10440735
Agreed, skipped yesterday but I'll watch today because it looks good.

>>10440686
I was there and there today too. Whilst I don't really like male idols that much they were just talking about what characters they liked. They got extremely excitable, but it wasn't any reference to yaoi. I'm not sure if they are fujoshi, but the conversation yesterday and today was just excited male idol fans.

>>10440517
you're interacting with the wrong people then. Most male idol fans I know (including myself) love all kinds of idols including love live and 3D idols/seiyuu. But if I just rely on my personal experience, I could easily say the same thing about Love Live fans. So I can see why you feel that way. Just sucks that bad eggs taint the entire fandom.

Meanwhile in Poland some political shill is trying to use Love Live cover groups for his political craptalk.I am thinking to actually compain about that to Sunrise/Lantis/Kadokawa/whoever is responsible for legal things, to C&D this dude. This is flat-out defaming of the brand.
BTW the cover group (I don't know their name) apologised privately, blaming him being annoying shill. Still, this asks for legal action.

Shining Idol's sheer lack of preparation in all of their dances is honestly astounding at this point. It's almost like they use the fact that they're one of the rarer overseas groups that does boy group songs as their only selling point and don't think to develop their skills at all. That was low-key harsh of me, but how can you spend all that time watching other idols and not see that you have to improve.

>>10441000
Link it, this screenshot alone made me laugh.

>>10441296
it kinda sucks to see since there are lots of good jpop boy group dances out there, but so far most of what i've seen consists of confused dancing with no energy... I'd love to see the concept pulled off well.

>>10441303
Me too,,, if there was an overseas group that actually pulled off the boy idol concept well with good dancing and performance quality I would support with my everything.

>>10441308
It would be really exciting. It feels like people just jump into boy idol cover groups cause they feel like they don't have to try as hard as girl idols? But instead of looking casual and swaggy, it just ends up looking sloppy. Male idols still have to be polished and sharp.

>>10440681
inb4 ‘i dont even know who they are!!1’ anon shows up

>>10441312
Precisely. Jumping and flopping around isn't high energy, it's lazy.

>>10441312
You’ve got to have JoJo level energy, and that’s a difficult type of vibe to cultivate for a lot of people. Done well, it would be incredible to watch

>>10441296
The fact that people expected this festival to be any different is almost comical.

Their festival is to gain clout for themselves, nothing more. If they were serious, they'd get their applicants better and not have repeats that they know will bring them views

The AniBraveto idol fest has its first round posted to Youtube, and it looks like its based on audience voting.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcW3roxfjwxF90KI-XHttrbTRZownbkCr

Liking videos and commenting will help determine who passes to the next round.

>>10441490
How did flute girl make it in? She not singing or dancing. I don't see how it's appropriate to have a instrumentalist being judged compared to the other entries.

>>10441327
eww no.

>>10441299
Couldn't get the link due to 4chan spam policy but search for Polikotki on Facebook and video titled "Gniew Młodych". Trust me, it's pure leftist cringe.

>>10441493
Careful, people might call you elitist for pointing that out.....

>>10441493
>>10441600

They wouldn't have a leg to stand on by calling them that though. Only one of the things they played was idol focused. You don't expect an arrangement of a Star Wars piece in an idol festival after all. At least Zeta actually kept it to idol series.

Any reviews on the anibraveto submissions?

Am I missing something? Why did Otakuthon only give 5 days for idols to apply for their online idolFest?

>>10442032
Given everyone always submits pre-recorded footage from months ago, it seems reasonable.

>>10442032
Wait otakuthon had idol sign ups???

>>10442104
don't bother with it. the idol stuff sucks past years.

>>10442122
Thanks friend.

>>10442032
Another idol fest runs by a Love Live group that don't know anything about idols. Great.

I don't know anything about Otakuthon, but this looks more like a singing competition than an idol festival? The website says they're requiring a live singing audition on video conference and doesn't allow any prerecorded videos.

>>10442470
I think you are mixing Otakuthon Idol which is a singing competition and Sunrise's Idol Showcase.

>>10442502

>>10442502

I don't mind her being there, but like the other anon I do take issue with the content she provides. If it's an Idol Fest then I go in expecting to see idol content.

>>10442502
>>10442506
I dislike her participation in a idol competition. She should be self aware enough to realize playing the instrument is not comparable to idols singing and dancing. Anibrave should also have been professional enough to tell her she doesn't qualify and can't be fairly judged.

Both are at fault, but she isn't innocent by reflecting the blame to others.

>>10442515
>>10442521
oh boohoo someone applied to be in a festival how DARE they.
You just sound nasty and elitist. This community is supposed to be welcoming to anyone, what’s the point in trying to push people out because they don’t do it exactly like you do?

>>10442545
The community is supposed to be welcome to anyone that does idol related things. The issue isn't that they're participating in idol festivals, as no one really has an issue with zeta flare doing the same thing, the issue is that they participate in idol related things with covers of works that have nothing to do with idol things. The whole point of this being a community is that it's meant to be a community of like minded individuals that have similar interests and want to perform/pursue similar things, the things being idol related. I don't think it's elitist to at least want them to play things idol related when they're taking part and wanting to join the overseas /idol/ community.

>>10442550
This.^

>>10442545
Please out yourself so I can stay away from you

>>10442545

Did you even watch it? If so please, educate me as to how Star Wars or Jojo has anything to do with idols and how it can possibly belong in a set for an event such as this.
Now if she'd done an idol style dance to that piece it then by all means I'd have no problem with it. But you have to remember that other people missed out at a chance to perform because she wanted to be a memelord.

>>10442598
Idols cover non-idol music a lot that doesn’t mean they’re not an idol I agree that an idol song is better for an idol festival specifically but I still don’t think we should be trying to bully people out of the community for doing something unique

>>10442602
it's unique because the concept is dumbass. if she wants to be a lindsay sterling knockoff with a flute she can do it on youtube like other westerners. idols are pop singers, it's not that deep.

>>10442545
>>10442602
Mentalities like this are why this community is the laughing stock it is

>>10442615
exactly

>>10442615
and you wonder why the more top tier idols in the comm stay away from the community and keep to themselves

>>10442545
Frankly, it’s hugboxing and asskissing like this that stops overseas idols from improving....

Y’all hate concrit, y’all hate the direction it’s going, yet you refuse to let people vocalize their issues, you refuse to tell people how to improve, y’all allow literally ANYBODY to call themselves idols (yeah I’m talking about not just her but cosplay cover dancers) and you kiss ass just because we’re supposed to be sweet and fluffy.
Stop.
Julily was right. It’s not elitist to draw a line between what’s an idol and what isn’t.
Acacia may be allowed into the idol festivals, but she’s technically not an idol and rarely covers idol music, and we should be able to say it without dumbasses like you calling us elitist.

Yeah. If anything goes here, why use labels like "idol"? Why bother calling it an idol showcase if you can just dance to some anime theme song or play an instrument? There's nothing wrong with an anime-themed talent show, but that's not the same as the concept of "idol". If anything goes, are we gonna start sharing Love Live card edits here and talking about the quality of their OC idol fanfiction just cause they're calling themselves idols? I mean whatever, we shouldn't be bullying them, right?

>>10442506
don't know if anyone saw but OF COURSE shining idol fest came in and had to talk about the "negativity" in the idol community because of all of this flautist business

If she covered an idol song (even a kpop song, as much as the weebs doth protest, they're still a type of "idol") I don't think people would complain as much. I don' think it's "negative" or "elitist" to say that someone in an [Idol]-fest should perform something that fits the theme?

Tbh, a Flutist idol sounds like a cute idea. It was just an unfortunate song choice that got people talking.

>>10442733
Exactly. I love the idea of a flautist idol, but covering Star Wars songs in an idol festival isn't right.
Frankly it's like a stolen spot for actual idol.

>>10442782
>>10442733
no, it would be bad no matter what. most solo instruments like that sound like ass on their own and flute is extremely easy to play.

>>10442784
Your personal taste on solo instruments is neither here nor there (and honestly just sounds elitist and, frankly, that you have bad hearing if you think they sound like ass solo). If they're doing idol songs, then it's down to the event organises to decide if they want it. I'm not against solo instruments, they sound much better than tone deaf, flat vocalist, frankly.

Before it came out that it was gonna be just nerdy shizz I was actually interested. It's nice getting a bit of difference than cycling through the same songs, same anime idols, same dances. With some doing absolutely fantastic covers and others being like "did you even learn it?" I was deflated when finding out it was ONE idol thing (kinda), everything else being just general nerd.

It's the only issue I take with the flautist was her set list being only one "idol" song. I don't care if it's "extremely easy" - so are most idol/pop things. Doesn't stop them being enjoyable.

>>10442986
Thank you for putting into words better than how I could have responded. Most instruments are easy to make a noise from, but that doesn't mean actually playing them and making them sound nice is easy. I think the flutist is talented and pretty, and she could transition pretty well into being an actual idol if she did some singing alongside her playing and covered more relevant songs. I think an idol that used her own instrument to supplement a track would be really cool.

Anyone watch NarCon's DigiFes? Left much to be desired for me desu

>>10442986
i play the flute myself, that's why i said it's easy. playing any instrument is easy because it will have the same output as anyone else playing that instrument if you're doing it correctly. my flute playing wouldn't sound different than hers and even if she plays it in a specific way it's easy to replicate. it isn't the same as training your own voice to sing, my voice won't sound like someone else's no matter how much i try and that's a super important aspect of pop/idol singing and performance vs. instrumental music. even in things like bangdream the instruments are a gimmick and much of the focus is on the singer or on the actual characters playing rather than just the instruments themselves.

>>10444228
The acts weren't good.... Like maybe two were ok, but damn that bar was low....

>>10442723
I saw that, and a new idol fest that popped up post about it....

Just goes to show that these "showcases" aren't trying to put out actual quality. It's nothing more than a shitfest to promote their own shitty group

>>10444231
I can assure you, if I picked up my flute and gave it a toot, it would not have the same sound. It would barely have a sound.

I get that with people who can actually make the sound it would all sound the similar. Isn't that the point of an instrument though? It's the piece that's played which separates 1st violin and 2nd violin. Why is that a bad thing? I love the sound of a flute (when not wielded by someone who can actually play it).

It still is more interesting seeing an instrumental version as it's different. It's not just the same cycled dances/singing of various degrees of competency.

>>10444231
You're really not as good as you think you are if you think all instrument playing sounds the same, lol. I'm sorry for the bluntness but there is a lot that goes into style and tone. I understand the contrast you're making between singing and playing an instrument, but if you think playing flute is so easy that anyone can make it sound good, you're either a musical genius and just don't know it or you're not as good as you think you are.

Hey guys, sorry to derail the discussion but I want to create a tier system for idols. I was wondering if I could have some opinions on who would fit where?
Actual idols only please, no Love Live cosplay lmao.

TIER 1; The most polished, popular, and professional

TIER 2; Definitely worth watching and following, but still room for improvement

TIER 3; Either too new to form a solid opinion, or bad but with potential to improve

TIER 4; Rock bottom, clearly has no idea what they’re doing

>>10444388
Well that's certainly just asking for a fight.

>>10444437
Probably, but I mean half the stuff discussed here is the subject of debate or arguments

>>10444388
What's the purpose of the tier system? Is it going to be posted up somewhere or something or is it just for amusement

>>10444442
I wasn’t intending to post it anywhere, I just wanted to know how people feel about various idol groups/soloists. So yeah, just amusement. Sorry if I made that unclear.

>>10444386
i play professionally, do you play an instrument? my point is style and tone can be achieved by anyone the same way with practice and understanding the instrument, which is correct. unless you are doing a solo, being a good professional musician is about being able to play to match the play of others around you and to match the feeling the conductor wants to convey. i bet most flutists can mimick her performance 1 to 1. i didn't personally find it impressive, especially since i am very skilled at playing by ear. (also now that you mention it maybe i am unreasonable musically inclined) but still i am sure others on my level will agree that instruments have some limitations to how unique they are while our voices are much more special.

>>10444457
lmao this is some big brain shit

>>10444457
> but still i am sure others on my level will agree that instruments have some limitations to how unique they are while our voices are much more special

I've played piano professionally, and I don't really feel this. I'm actually surprised you have this perception because it feels like what an average consumer would say rather than someone involved in the industry. Everything has limitations to how unique they are, including vocals, and there are few things vocalists can do that are truly "much more special".

Has anyone noticed an influx of new groups in the northeast? A lot of them are branding as "original idols" but are cosplaying as their own idol characters. I've seen like 4 new groups like this pop up in the last few months

>>10444493
Nta but if you and me buy the same instrument we can play it the same, but you and me will never sound the same singing.

>>10425841
Anyone know the name of the girl on the right?

>>10445358
Pengy us the girl with black hair

>>10445334
Maybe these lackluster festivals have these groups thinking they can do it too...

>>10445334
Personally I couldn’t care less if they’re cosplaying original characters as long as they make music.

>>10445334
I don't think cosplaying as characters is that bad, it's not like any idols are really themselves anyway

Connections released their first song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aqgjcSgumk
It seems good enough but I'm really not keen on the idol outfits towards the end, they seem quite dated. Nice song though.

>>10445505
Some are. I know Melancholiaah throws part of themself in their music. I think there may be a few others, but I’d have to see

Has anyone been keeping up with all the showcases and net idol live streams? I know a member of Amuse just had a birthday live stream but I personally haven't watched or kept up with any streams or showcases.
Any good ones so far?

>>10445885
So far the only idols I know doing live streams for actual performances are A Muse, but that’s only if they sell out of tickets for their in person lives. Kuro Hime is doing a livestream Aug. 3rd, but I’m not sure if it’s anything idol related besides the possibility of her dropping a new song.

As far as the idol festivals are concerned ...don’t bother desu. Almost all of them have just been boring.

>>10445885
Phoebe sometimes streams herself singing live on Twitch. Those few times have been fun to watch. But it's been mostly games and vtubing stuff lately so haven't been keeping up

Kei was just announced as a new member of Darling Idols. If this girl doesn’t slow down shes going to let everyone down.

>>10446436
Leave her be. She’s gonna have to learn her limits the hard way. As long as she’s fulfilling the obligations of each group, it’s fine for now.

>>10445885
It looks like idols have been streaming either for practices or to connect with the fans on a more “personal” level via impromptu or off the cuff lives. I think it’s kind of cool to know the idol outside their work but idk how everyone else feels

Is anyone following the anibraveto thing? Idk when the stream is because they keep changing the date

>>10446436
??? I thought Darling Idols was based in Maryland. How is she going to perform with them if she lives in Florida?

>>10446533
I'm assuming it's cause most things are online now?

>>10446436
>>10446445
She does seem to be in quite a few groups. Sense5 hasn't even debuted yet but that was a project she's in that I'm actually most looking forward to since it's a unique concept and has other talented idols within her area in the group. I just hope that group doesn't get ignored in her quest to learn her limits lol.

>>10446533
>>10446541
Yeah probably what anon said. I'm not sure what cons Kei goes to but Darling participates at Katsu a lot, and that's a relatively large convention that would be worth it for Kei to go to for their performances. But practices and the like, not sure how she'll pull that off. Maybe Darling is looking to expand their name in other corners of the states? Kind of like an AKB sister group type thing.

>>10446541
Unless they change the date again, it’s currently August 22nd starting at 3pm EST.
It looks like it has potential. Anyone else gonna tune in?

>>10445509
I think this slipped by thread discussion, as it's in odd place where it sounds just okay, but nobody knows how to explain why. It's the lyrics, they're really bad. Everything else is great. The instrumental is good, better then legacy's first song. If they had used it right maybe as good as interlunium's instrumentals. The singers are okay by virtual-idol standards. They still sing leagues bettetr then any physical net-idols. I'm with you on the idol outfits, but they're passable.
It took me forever to figure out what was wrong with the lyrics. They don't sound like they should be that bad, but it's a major structure problem with them. It was driving me insane.
Basically they've got way too many messages in the song. They cycle through those messages without indication the prior message is going to change. They set your expectations on one setting and never fulfill them. There's four different messages in this song: life is mundane but okay so I seek out the future, I want a boyfriend, I found a boyfriend, boyfriend lives in the present not the future, so I'll live in the present with him but its contradictory due to bad word choice as I'll live with him into the future.
Those are four messages that can absolutely work together, but you need to indicate that's what you're planning on doing from the beginning. 0:00 - about 1:50 is my life is mundane so I'm seeking out new opportunities, and then that turns into I want a boyfriend. You can do that, but make it clear through word choice your seeking a boyfriend not success. Use romantic word choice not self-driven opportunity word choice. Is it a love long or self-motivation song? You expect generic we can all be great, and get surprise I have a boyfriend now.
Within their sectioned messages they often contradict that message itself by poor word choice. Example: solo 1 and 2 contradict each other, 3 and 4 contradict each other, and 2 and 4 contradict the chorus.

>>10445509
Can't help but feel like i've seen these exact poses in an actual series looks weirdly traced.

>>10447545
This is kind of a random opinion but I think the name "connections" is a stupid choice.

Will anyone be watching London Idol Festival’s showcase?

Some recent uploads.

Peachy Parade uploaded a highlight reel from Ren’s birthday livestream:
https://youtu.be/mZuHUCf3MJw

ChiRi Girls uploaded a dance and vocal cover of Ikuze! Kaitou Shoujo:
https://youtu.be/EBbtg4D7t5E

Mystiq Wish uploaded a vocal cover of Yowamushi Mont Blanc from member Sainty:
https://youtu.be/H3Lv4XalzE8

Melancholiaah uploaded the music video for their song Last Paradise:
https://youtu.be/SHrhBZhELMA

>>10447761
I will. Someone I know is in it, so I at least want to show my support. Also want to see if it’s run any better than last time.

>>10447815
What are your thoughts on the lineup so far?

>>10447828
In my opinion? The lineup so far seems like nothing special, but it could be worse. The seasoned performers will make it worth watching, but there’s a few newbies and less experienced performers that could make the whole thing go either way.

>>10447794
Sainty's cover was really nice

>>10447549
pretty sure they're all traces from imas characters. the girl with the brown side pony looks like a direct rip of one of Atsumi Munataka's cards

>>10447888
Which card?

>>10447888

Another one looks like one of Takane Shijou's iconic poses too.

Just looking at the art, it looks very traced or at least like they've ripped a lot things. It's like they've stolen to base art and don't know how to colour because there's barely any shading whatsoever. Some characters get lucky and have some under the chin/neck but that's it.

>>10448042
Yeah that's what I noticed as well. I think it's a bit telling when you look at somebody's art and immediately think "i've seen this before". I get that there aren't many poses that resemble certain idol stereotypes (i guess?), but it does look like they were absolutely traced and the person who did it just doesn't know how to color.

London Idol Festival's summer showcase is live

>>10448219
Your thoughts? My wifi made it lag a lot

Who else watched the LIF showcase? Any favourites? Personally I thought Shooting Star/Girls Secret, Koneko, and Lita were pretty good.

Mine was lagging too. Don’t think it was wifi

>>10448219
literally only two of them didnt suck the first group was amazing

>>10448238
I liked Shooting Star x Girls' Secret the best. Also enjoyed Ichigo Ro and Lita.

>>10448243
Oh yeah, Ichigo Ro were pretty good too. Cute outfits and cute location.

Honestly some of the performers need to realise that dancing in a room filled with crap does not look good lmao.

>>10448240
How did the others suck? And how can they be better you think?

>>10448244
cough cough sakurahana cough cough

>>10448246
either bad lighting, bad costumes, looked exhausted, and location. i think with practice they can improve and believe they should look at boards to have a more cohesive style ! also just working on being in sync would def help

>>10448240
If you don’t mind me asking who was decent in your opinion?

>>10448253
shooting star x girls secret and ichigo ro were great

>>10448248
Lmaoooo exactly who I was thinking of.

The Nico cosplayer had really bad lighting too desu. Couldn’t even see their face.

>>10448248
Lmaoooo exactly who I was thinking of.

The Nico cosplayer had really bad lighting too. Couldn’t even see their face.

>>10448244
Agreed. I also didn't like the filming locations of several of the recordings. The dog walking in on Ocean Tsuki, the bike riding past Citrus Quartet, etc. I think they should have just done another take and recorded it again, it was a little distracting.

>>10448264
bike man kun is my fav <33333333

>>10448264
Honestly I liked the dog more than Tsuki lmao

>>10448267
I swear I almost spat out my coffee looool

>>10448248
I didn’t see it. How was she anyway? Has her dancing improved any at least?

>>10448264
Lime kun's flannel falling off LMAO
Like just do a new take

>>10448272
Honestly I couldn’t tell, the camera set up was bad, she was dancing in a room so full of random crap that it was difficult to focus on her. And her performance lasted like 30 seconds.

>>10448272
her dancing was alright ive never seen her before so idk if she improved her location was really messy though she didnt even bother to pick up her clothes and close the closet door

>>10448278
Well honestly Id expect someone’s room to be a bit cluttered if they’re going to college.

>>10448280
then film outside

>>10448280
Ok Sakura

>>10448264
I mean they are filming during a pandemic, not like they can go to their high class studios to film at the moment. Most of them are kids wanting to get fame and attention

>>10448280
At least push the clutter out of the way.
I hate seeing photos and videos of people's messy rooms.

>>10448283
Lmao I’m not her but ok. Hopefully she’ll be aware eventually.

>>10448284
You don’t need a fancy studio.
You just need to know what looks good and what doesn’t. Part of your outfit falling off halfway doesn’t look good. Clothes sprawled all over the floor doesn’t look good.

What did you guys think of Lime kun's song?

>>10448284
What? Never said they needed high class studios. Like, it's not hard to just film something again if it doesn't look good.

>>10448289
the spoken break,,, thats it thats the post

>>10448289
Good concept. Singing could be improved on, but desu it has potential. With a few tweaks and practice it could be decent.

>>10448293
Idk why there’s a random ‘desu’ in there, ignore that sorry lmao

>>10448294
newfag

>>10448297
Yeah I’m new, ain’t a fag though, sorry to disappoint lmao

Opinions on Tenshi Umi? Nobody’s mentioned her yet. Personally I felt the dancing was a bit lacking but I think she has potential to improve.

>>10448300
she seemed really nervous and tired but i thought she looked adorable, very sweet aura

>>10448300
She was very cute, but her dancing was indeed kind of lacking. I think she should focus on looking more energetic or lively with her movements.

>>10448289
Link?

>>10448294
CGL censors certain acronyms like T B H

>>10448303
Ahh I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info haha

>>10448303
I don’t think they’ve uploaded Lime’s song anywhere yet.

just remember guys never use metaphors infront of lime kun very scary

>>10448307
I was waiting for someone to say that lol

“THOSE GOD DAMN METAPHORS”

>>10448306
They said that they won’t play it anywhere else until it’s professionally recorded for their album, it was a sneak peek

>>10448309
well its on twitch and the whole stream will be reuploaded to youtube so guess not

>>10448300
Umi's a newbie. Let's give her some time to show what she's bringing to the stage before we form a full opinion. She seems super sweet tho, and I think with time, she'll improve.

>>10448340
My thoughts exactly. Her dance wasn’t polished (to be expected since she’s a newbie) but she’s definitely shown promise, and I think she’ll grow and improve as she continues performing.

>>10448348
Agreed. If anything, her dancing reminds me of when I first started learning dances and idol stuff.... I remember being nervous and not having much confidence, which made me hold back a lot.

In time, I definitely think she’ll make a pretty good idol

Anyone planning on watching the ANIBeat showcase? Most of the lineup looks decent so I might give it a try

For those who were looking for Lime’s song yesterday: https://youtu.be/XYgJXb3IgOQ

29 minutes in.

>>10448729
where can i watch?

>>10448731
Citrus Quartet has a good start but I want to encourage them to practice more with each other and work on their energy.

Lime-kuns song was... something

>>10448769
To be fair it's hard for any group to practice together in 2020, but yeah, they've got room for improvement. Looking forward to seeing it!

I'm a lil confused about how they said lime's song was about disabilities but it's really unclear isn't about insomnia? Depression? The background music is really really nice but I think he needs to work on his vocals a bit more. Especially if it's not releasing for a while, he should take the time to improve and strengthen for recording.

>>10448865
The video says it’s about sensory overload

>>10448865
I agree. There’s potential and it isn’t garbage, but I think Lime needs to work on his vocals before releasing the song properly.

And yeah as the person above me stated, it’s about sensory overload. I believe Lime is on the autistic spectrum.

>>10448968
I think it’s good that they’re waiting to release it until they can record professionally, but I’m happy that we got a look at the song now. I don’t know anything about what sensory overload may feel like, and it was really interesting to hear Lime’s perspective. I see a lot of potential in Citrus, I’m excited to see more

>>10448975
Have someone throw a shit ton of stuff at you, while simultaneously screeching and banging pots.

That’s a small idea.

sorry for off topic, but is that an autism thing or do neurotypical people experience that too? cause i feel like that happens to me a lot

>>10449038
it can happen to neurotypicals, it’s just easier and more likely to happen to autistic people and people with adhd/add.

sensory overload happens when there’s too much going on at the same time, and for allistic people this would generally have to be many things at once, while for autistic people it can happen seemingly out of nowhere, because we’re more sensitive to sounds, smells, etc.

ANIbeat idol festival is live!

>>10448299
The most newfag response

>>10444388
>actual idols
So including ones in japan? Paida is the only one you care about despite there being so many idols there.

>>10449138
Overseas idols. I should have clarified.

>>10442640
>Y’all hate concrit, y’all hate the direction it’s going, yet you refuse to let people vocalize their issues,
idols seethe when they get any criticism which is why they all post here rather than facebook. Anonymity is why.

>>10449141
List idols then. I haven’t seen yumepedia spoken about except once and anons said they weren’t big enough to be spoken about. They just debuted so it doesn’t hurt to check out the group.

ANIbeat was really great! Just wish there weren't as many tech issues, but it couldn't be helped. What were your favorite acts?

>>10449172
Definitely Rira was my favorite! Juju, Suika, and the Alex&Sona duo were really great too, and Yua's original was cute even if the rest of the video was way below the rest lol. Everyone did really well though so I'm impressed!

>>10449172
Rira and Nye were my favorites! Most of the acts were really quality and there was a very good flow to it. The tech issues sucked but the hosts handled it really well and made it less of an issue, and I liked how personable they were.
Overall I enjoyed the festival and think it was one of the better online ones we’ve seen

>>10449038
I’m not autistic, but I do suffer from sensory overload. It’s absolutely hell, especially when it’s time to go to a store.

>>10449145
yumepedia aren't overseas idols, they're a japan based group backed by a company in japan. just because a couple members aren't 100% japanese doesn't make them overseas idols.

>>10449361
Yes. they are japanese idols, even though not all of them are ethnically japanese. they operate in japan and mainly target a japanese audience

Not sure if this has been discussed, but what's going on with StarStruck? I heard something about internal bullying and then suddenly all the members stopped talking about StarStruck? Project Constellation from Anibeat got me thinking about it lmao.

>>10449703
I wanna know where you heard that. But going to check, only Moon still has StarStruck in their bio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmpFhL2xbL0

48 minutes of bull I can't even be bothered to watch. Someone care to summarize what high horse she's on now?

>>10450048
Just the same unnecessary policing manifesto of "heres why I'm an idol and you're not"

Seriously we get it- you're pissed that half assed Love LIve cosplayers are getting booked over you for idol fests but that's the way the con cookie crumbles. Get over it - you sound obsessive.

>>10450048
I dont like bashing people, but shes so fucking annoying. Just stop trying to be controversial, you are making yourself look bad.

>>10450048
She straight up shows videos of people and puts them on blast, insulting them for not being up to her standards. I’m sorry, who the fuck does she think she is?? She wants to talk about being an adult and being sick of drama and then literally takes clips from people (who look like first timers...) to make fun of them? Make it make sense.

Tbh, she makes a lot of good points, especially about people centering themselves, people not planning their performances and videoa properly. The lack of teamwork and egocentrism in the community point was right. She talked about parasocial relationships being an issue in the community, which is true. She lost me as soon as she started ranting about Love Live. Again. Also, we get it Julily. You read 4chan.

>>10450052 sums up the second half of the video. She starts reeing about love live cosplayers and interlunium not being real idols. This video could have been so great.

Its fun watching cosplayers get mad

My main thing is this: the video was just redundant. It was nothing we haven’t heard her say a billion times already. It does come off as a little obsessive at this point and she should focus more on herself, just for the sake of her own sanity.

>>10450071
Agreed. At this point, I highly believe that she's posting content like this for relevancy and to keep attention on her. No one seems to care about her "content", because she hasn't been releasing anything, so she has to post "controversial" takes to stay relevant to what we know her for in the community.

I agree with many points, but I feel like she's crossed a line with posting videos of others.
It's true that the community can be very much a hug box, but if you tell people they can't upload unless their videos are perfect, you'll never get anywhere. People are allowed to fail. They are allowed to post bad content. It's a crucial part of growth.

Also her insta story it seems like she's in a manic episode and I'm mad worried about her like girl please get some help.

>>10450079
I think the posting videos about others thing isn’t that bad. She used examples that are public for people to see. So I don’t necessarily think it’s wrong for her to have used it. Those who are taking it as “bullying” or “targeting” even though she only used concrit are just being whiny cuz they know it applies. Once more, constructive criticism is not and will NEVER BE bullying.

>>10450079
I think the posting videos about others thing isn’t that bad. She used examples that are public for people to see. So I don’t necessarily think it’s wrong for her to have used it. Those who are taking it as “bullying” or “targeting” even though she only used concrit are just being whiny because they know it applies. Once more, constructive criticism is not and will NEVER BE bullying.

>>10450096
Adding on about the video examples, it's not like she made points that none else has already said or thought publicly or privately. If you feel attacked by her video, you are the problem.

I feel like Julily’s video is only a problem because she’s only saying things that people on these boards are too afraid to attach their names to, lmao.

I think she made very valid points regarding the videos she included. It’s out there for the world to see; most of the videos she included came from recent online “idol fests” so I feel like she’s justified in including them.
It’s just that she’s made this argument so many times, SO many times that it’s repetitive at this point. Like, girl pack it up. We’re tired. I understand that it sucks seeing half-assed cosplayers and dancers put on performances and “showcases”. I get that it sucks that nobody knows how to take proper criticism. It is annoying seeing nonsense posts in the overseas idol hashtag on Instagram. I get it.
I’m just like, damn is it that serious? I don’t understand how anyone can have the emotional energy to focus so hard on what other people are doing as it pertains to a hobby like this, even if it’s more than just a hobby for her. Isn’t she tired of repeating herself? There are some people that are never going to listen to her advice because there are simply people in the community that don’t take themselves that seriously. And never will. And I don’t think those people are worth popping a blood vessel over.
Yes, she’s a good performer. Yes, she’s been in the community long enough to be able to give extremely helpful concrit, but I dunno. I just feel like one single person shouldn’t be the one-and-all voice of whatever the hell this community is.
It’s just not that damn serious to me. But what do I know.

I will say, I think people are misunderstanding the part of her explaining why even when someone is having fun, they should be mindful about presentation, I think the main issue with that is the people who do it just for fun but then get mad because people aren’t enjoying it or supporting.

>>10450116
This! If they are doing this for fun, why does Julily's words matter to them?

>>10450103
>There are some people that are never going to listen to her advice because there are simply people in the community that don’t take themselves that seriously.

This. She's preaching to the choir at this point, the people who are talented, cosplayer or original idol are going to stand out. The trash will continue to be trash. It's not like screaming into the wind over and over is going to make the community change.

>>10450048
She sounds like nothing but an elitist that has the mentality of if you don’t do things a certain way you aren’t an idol. It’s because of people like her that the idol community is so toxic. I couldn’t even watch more than a few minutes of the video without getting tired of how much she was repeating herself.

>>10450048
Also If she used your footage you can claim it as stolen content and get the video flagged and taken down. I saw no credit for the footage used maybe she did verbally I couldn’t get past the first few minutes but it should have been in the description. You can’t just rip people’s stuff Offline and post it without permission it’s called stealing. As I doubt this would fall under the educational fair use law. Since this seemed more like bullying. It’s not my footage so I can’t but If your in the video you definitely can!

>>10450214
I think it’s because of people who refuse to improve but whine about how people don’t like their stuff that this community is so toxic. I think it’s also because of the biiiiiiiiiiiiig circle jerk in the community that makes it impossible to improve.

This is a key example of how delivery can impact your message. So many people are commenting on her use of others' clips even though they agree that they are examples of 'what not to do', or her 'aggressive tone' even if they agree with her points. As someone on the spectrum it's painful to see her do this because she probably thought she was communicating her points strongly but couldn't see that her method has turned people off.
And while I see that this is meant to be a 'raw thoughts' sort of video, she makes her points in a very unstructured way often using vague anecdotes. Noone that needs to hear the good points she made is going to make it through such a video, and mostly dedicated members of the community seem to be responding - so yeah she is preaching to the choir already.
Getting some others to read or listen through it before recording would have gone a long way in solving both of these issues.

>>10450250
Also, it's refreshing to see honesty around her mental health and how this impacts her as an idol and community leader. But it's so unhealthy how she's fixated on controlling the community to become better, and whether people are being sincere or fake/ass-kissing. This kind of polarised or catastrophizing thinking is the toxic and unproductive side of anxiety and paranoia and I wish she had the self-awareness to step back from worrying about others for her own wellbeing. Yes, many other people in the community share her views but they don't get as stressed from other people disagreeing with them.

>>10450238
Yeah those people suck. But I still think >>10450134 applies, in that actually talented and hard working ones will succeed, no matter what the community is like.

Didn't Julily have an entire "graduation" live because she was graduating from being an idol? Why is she still so obsessed with everything idol when she's "graduated" from it?

>>10450262
She “levelled up”. She decided to leave the Overseas Idol Community to experiment what being a legit “idol” is. Like in a professional light.

>>10450265
Wait, I'm confused. She graduated from being an idol to being an idol? Why call it a graduation then?

>>10450281
She kept using the term graduation but continually explained that it is more of a levelling up.

>>10450237
It falls under fair use lol. Also I thought it was considerate that she didn't credit the clips used. If she did, I'm sure y'all would still be upset.

>>10450319
Still stealing though and not under fair use if it’s under online bullying which this is considering she even pointed out a girl wasn’t wearing safety shorts which should have been a privet conversation desu. I don’t even know If the girl was a minor or not which makes it kind of yikes. Like I don’t see how picking on people who didn’t ask could possibly fall under fair use. So the people should have been asked or at least credited so they could find this and talk to her about there feelings on the matters directly. Not crediting them proves things where said about them that she didn’t want getting back to them. Which once again makes it closer to bullying not an online constructive conversation.

>>10450326
it still doesn't fall under bullying either way but okay.

>>10450328
What Is Cyberbullying?
Cyberbullying is the use of technology to harass, threaten, embarrass, or target another person. Online threats and mean, aggressive, or rude texts, tweets, posts, or messages all count. So does posting personal information, pictures, or videos designed to hurt or embarrass someone else.

I’m going to leave it at this we can believe whatever but this is literally cyber bullying.

>>10450331
it was not designed to hurt or embarrass, it was to show an example, but agree to disagree

>>10450332
Which could have been the intent and I do think its where she was trying to go. Though the execution could have been handled way more gracefully. If done right there should have been no room for confusion on intent.

>>10450336
Can totally agree with that.

>>10450265
So.... is she aiming to get signed to an agency or move to japan? Or is she trying to do the same thing other serious idols are doing and trying to make a legit name for herself?

>>10450048
I tried..... Ended up skipping around. I kind of agreed on some points, but she's beating a dead horse.....

Also for you dumbasses who keep crying about her using other people's clips:
1. Fair use states that as long as you are using the clip for things like criticism (which she did) then you're fine. Someone needs to be willing to tell these idols and idol hosts they suck and should at least try to do better if they're gonna be calling themselves idols.
2. Y'all are mad she used them, but I bet you'd be even more heated if she had named them. She at least gave them the courtesy of not doing that.
3. Get over yourselves. You probably feel attacked. Yeah, half of what she said didn't come out right, but she was right.

Ultimately, I agree with her to an extent, but she really needs to put this to rest if she's no longer gonna be part of OIC. She's just gonna give herself a stroke.

>>10450341
probs an indie idol like Calina.

What I don’t get is why doesn’t Julily use the opportunity to reflect on herself?

Out of all the members of Jumpship her contributions were the weakest for Tekko 2019. Every attempt she made for relevancy fell flat on its face.

But hey, her room is either a mess in the video or she has the style of a stereotypical 13yo boy. She can’t figure out how to properly set camera white balance. The lighting ratio sucks and she couldn’t be bothered change its angle of it to eliminate the reflection from her glasses. That’s just as bad as the laptop she talked about.

>>10450345
Depends on what crosses the line of criticism to cyber bullying. Which is what people are debating over. Both on the forums and on her video. If it wasn’t controversial there would be no debate. Plus calling people who you disagree with a dumbass is in very poor taste and doesn’t make your argument more or less valid. Though I do agree overall this is beating a dead horse.

>>10450347
Her room looks organized and neat to me?
also this wasn't meant to be a piece of polished idol content. She did not submit this to a festival. The video was clearly a casually recorded video made for the sole purpose of getting thoughts out to the community. You are all complaining that she is spending too much effort trying to put out her thoughts, yet now you are complaining that not enough effort was put into it? Honestly if the video was fully scripted and polished, it would come across as less genuine from my perspective. There is so much hypocrisy in this thread and it's hilarious.

>>10450351
Senpai, if she spent the effort to make silly gibberish songs between points and to edit cuts then she could have fixed the issues with color correction. The whole presentation is that of a poser desu.

>>10450353
Literally just because you started that sentence with "senpai", your input is invalid lmao

>>10450355
It autocorrects to senpai and desu cause weeb

>>10450353
I thought it was funny. It probably took her two minutes to record that audio. That takes no effort. That was the point. It was a joke. It also makes it more genuine to me. Where does the poser argument come in? I also honestly didn't see anything wrong with the color. The visuals were not the point of the video.

>>10450353
Also........color correction?? You all can say she's an elitist and all, but she was literally just saying what's been said in this thread, regardless of the repercussions that most of you would have if YOU said things out of anonimity.

>>10450360
right, it's a joke not a dick don't take it so hard.

>>10450360
Her whole argument is about people not putting in the work and making people who want to be idols look bad.

If you’re going to do that then your content shouldn’t look and sound like you’re on skype reporting a hurricane from a flooded news truck. It takes 2 seconds to correct simple footage like this.

She’s far from a professional and just needs to go. Literal toxic waste.

>>10450366
have you seen her actual idol content? your argument has no validity. She didn't even post this on the same youtube channel as her idol content. It was not supposed to be on the same level. It was meant to be a genuine chat.

Commentary style videos also have standards, if she wants to think everyone doing something on the side has to look professional idk why holding her accountable for video quality is a big deal. The audio quality of her recording wasn’t great

>>10450366
alright bud i expect your absolutely perfect, color corrected, audio mixed "raw thoughts" video uploaded this week?

why the fuck are yall acting so anal about this lmao. you really love to come on this board with the guise of anonymity and shit on idols regardless but because it's julily that's doing it, understanding the repercussions of attaching her name to this, it is suddenly not ok? the fuck? she literally has not said anything that anons here haven't said before. get the fuck over yourselves lol suddenly acting holier than thou just cause you have a hate boner for julily

>>10450369
I don’t have any problem letting you or Julily know who I am, though.

A quote from a poet:

Cash me ousside.

>>10450370
so....who are you then? say it here.

>>10450371
Your mom

>>10450369
THIS

Its so clear to everyone that yall have no power against her points so you are just trying to criticize every little irrelevant thing you can in order to avoid the point of the video. It doesn't matter what she does. You will find anything to get mad about.Sorry you got offended ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>10450372
coward

>>10450373
Literally her video is her whining about other people making idol look like a joke and she can’t find a way to justify her outlandish dream to random guy on tinder date since banging that rapey producer guy didn’t pan out or her mom.

She spent 40ish minutes whining about love live and trying to make her opinion more relevant than it really is.

All while presenting the video in a professional format instead of opting for a more organic vlog format. She’s trash already so makes sense for her to deliver it like it came off a YRC trailer.

>>10450377
take off the anonimity and then we'll talk

>>10450378
Give me your IG

>>10450378
//same anon// same with whoever said "toxic waste"

Bet if someone else made a video saying the same things would still be a problem but ok.

also "rapey producer guy"??? we're still doing vendetta posts??? with false rumours??? ok cool.

>>10450380
you first

>>10450382
Same time, on 3

>>10450383
HOW IS THAT GONNA WORK HAHAHAHA

>>10450381
Yes, it would still be a problem if presented in the same way.

The amount of time Julily went into lifting those clips of others she could have recorded herself modeling the undesirable behavior and her point would have been received just as well, if not better, because she didn’t shame people.

The whole rant about VA idol group was spite and petty.

This is the millionth time this argument over “who’s an idol and who isn’t” has erupted. And what have any of you learned? What has changed? Damn near nothing.
As someone mentioned earlier, the people who want to seriously pursue this as a hobby and actually do well will prevail, and the shitty ones will remain shitty. There will always be shitty cosplay dance groups. No matter how much anyone tries to whip the “community” into shape, at the end of the day there are people who won’t take her advice because they’re just “doing it for fun”.
Taking this directly from a comment on the video: “there are people who are doing this as a hobby casually and those who are doing this as a very serious hobby”.
I highly doubt most of the shitty cosplay kids really have any plan to branch out and become idols in Japan. Should they be put in “idol” festivals alongside stronger performers? No. But are they allowed to exist? Yeah. Of course, putting yourself on the internet doesn’t make you immune to criticism (which is what she gave in the video; she wasn’t bullying even if she sounded harsh), but I think so many people fail to realize time and time again that there are clearly people who view this hobby with varying levels of seriousness. That’s the way it’s always going to be.
There’s just no point in her beating this same damn dead horse, for that exact reason.
Maybe I have no right saying this since I’m a casually hobbyist in all this (though I do indeed care about quality), but it should never be this deep. None of you should be this hellbent over any of this. You’re wasting your time and other people’s time being so absorbed in “bettering” a “community” that will never have a clear-cut definition.
And I get that that’s part of her purpose for making the video: to provide her clear-cut definition of an “idol”, but let’s face it. As proven by the responses, not everyone will agree.

>>10450397
If your in it for the hobby and fun, why does it matter what Julily says? Genuinely curious.

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>>10450390
I meant calling someone "trash" or "literal toxic waste". Like it's okay for someone to say that here under anonimity. but god forbid she says "this video looks like there was little to no effort in this" in a criticizing way.

>>10450409
Not that anon. But both are bad. Neither should be done.

My friend told me this is where idol groups get honest opinions is that true lmao

You can cosplay being an idol, but you can't cosplay talent. You HAVE to take the time to develop yourselves and part of that is knowing how to TAKE CRITICISM. Stop justifying why you suck, you know why you suck, so do something about it. You can't be posting your idol performances online and be made of glass. Get over it. Everyone sucks before they get better. You're no different. Everyone gets criticism, you're not exempt. Every performance gets judged by its audience, you're not special. Roll with the punches, work on your craft, humble yourself, stop being a drama magnet, do some hard work and put some actual good into the world instead trying to force people to feed your ego. I'm baffled by such a small community that considers themselves demi-artists that gripes so much about DOING their craft with effort.

You can cosplay being an idol, but you can't cosplay talent. You HAVE to take the time to develop yourselves and part of that is knowing how to TAKE CRITICISM. Stop justifying why you suck, you know why you suck, so do something about it. You can't be posting your idol performances online and be made of glass. Get over it. Everyone sucks before they get better. You're no different. Everyone gets criticism, you're not exempt. Every performance gets judged by its audience, you're not special. Roll with the punches, work on your craft, humble yourself, stop being a drama magnet, do some hard work and put some actual good into the world instead trying to force people to feed your ego.