/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10436712

Fuck I just realozed I typed the thread title in the wrong field...RIP

Any anons here who have recently ordered stuff from AP Paris? How long did the item take to arrive? I bought one necklace and they apparently shipped it as a letter, and the last tracking update was on June 17th. How would I even go on about this if it never shows up? They did mention in the email they sent with the tracking number that mailing stuff can take longer than usual but I'm just a really paranoid person lmao

>>10436720

I ordered wristcuffs that according to tracking haven't arrived, way back on the day of the wristcuffs bloodbath at AP USA.

>>10436720
I have ordered from them a ton during quarantine, it takes a bit over a week but I've always had packages, not letters. It will drop off the face of the earth tracking-wise and then suddenly be in New York, don't worry.

>>10436732

I've had things from other places in Europe where tracking says nothing but it's actually already been delivered but doesn't update until later. I wonder if it's USPS or the other countries' post services that causes this.

>>10436712
There's no mention anywhere on fabric or sizing on the website, who knows when we'll find out

Also kek at all the people rushing to Lace market to sell their strawberry dresses, do these people not realize that this mto is being done by raffle so they're not promised a slot, and that the dresses are being sent out in February 2021

>>10436738

So since it's a lottery is it like BABY SF where you don't pay until they tell you you're chosen?

Poly is fucking gross desu
Cotton or BTFO

>>10436746

I mean, you're not exactly wrong to say cotton is better but don't be an ass about it?

Did anyone manage to get the Ice Cream Necklace directly from AP? I'm trash and I feel so broken-hearted because I wasn't able to get the pink colorway. I'm still thankful my SS got the pink ring, but I'm so stressed out already over trying to get the necklace from AP USA, whenever that will be.

I really hope AP does another production round of the jewelry. I'm beating the topic to death, but I wanted to see if others had any luck, or if the majority of us were just fucked from the beginning.

>>10436750

I didn't go for the necklace cause those never last in bloodbaths and I hate neck jewelry; I'm just hoping AP USA gets their usual 3 of each item (I know it's probably more than that but it feels like 3 lol) and going to shoot for literally just the ring while everyone else possibly fights over main pieces and bunny ear headbows.

>>10436744
Yeah, if you win you have a couple days to give ap the money, otherwise your order will be cancelled

>>10436756

Oh, nice! So the end date on the info page is the last day to sign up for the lottery and then they'll start sending payment links to winners?

>>10436747
>p-pwease don't be mean!!!
do you know where you are? this isn't rufflechat. kek.

>>10436760

Nah I just think that people are going to come out whiteknighting AP poly super hard and derail the thread with the same old debate if someone posts so aggressively/rudely about it in that way and I'd rather keep the general either helpful/useful or at least interesting rather than stupid fights.

>>10436754
It's interesting to me that you don't like neck jewelry because usually those are the only pieces people want. But that's probably lucky for you!

I think you have a pretty good chance at getting the ring, while everyone else (including myself) claws at each other to get the necklaces. I've been having such bad luck in the past few months getting anything. I just want this win.

>>10436750
>I'm beating the topic to death
You really are. I'm tired of reading about you crying over not getting the latest pair of bunny ears or plastic jewelry from AP. Every single thread it's the same thing.

>>10436767
Nayrt but it's a ton of people missing out every release and often different people anon; every thread whether people get stuff or not or are happy or not they usually ask who else got stuff to compare shipping times and communication from AP for practical reasons too.

>>10436767
As a sweetfag who generally doesn’t like AP, seconded. Every fucking thread lately is whining about AP’s release habits. Make a separate thread, y’all. This is clearly a deep enough topic for one and its drowning out all the other conversations

>>10436744
>>10436756
Pretty sure I read you pay half when you get chosen, half in February. Could have been reading too fast however.

>>10436763

I think I dislike it do much because I have a large bust for lolita and instead of laying neatly it sort of almost sits horizontally/rests on my chest. Everyone always talks about bust measurements in relation to blouses and main pieces but I can fit those fine and my biggest issue is necklaces sitting poorly lol

>>10436769
If only we were on a forum with the ability to make brand specific threads for times like these

>>10436771

I agree that a separate thread would be good. Regardless of which side you're on the threads getting derailed for that kind of conversation eventually gets tiring. Comparing shipping info and stuff in the general is common/normal though.

>>10436778

Like a "who got the last release or won in the MTO lottery/did your order ship yet" thread? It seems weirdly specific and people would want to make one for every thread or could feel redundant to the mail or stupid questions threads maybe?

Not a bad idea though if people are really that bothered by that basic sort of discussion in the general.

>>10436779
It’s not even a huge issue if releases are discussed, but long in depth arguments about one specific brand that span 3-4 threads is absurd. I know that for some people AP is lolita and vice versa, but that’s not true for a lot of us

>>10436779
How is talking about a large AP release "derailing:" the general thread? Just because some people aren't interested in the conversation doesn't mean it's suddenly off-topic.

>>10436781

*would want to make a new thread for every release, not every thread sorry

>>10436781
No, just make an AP thread you numbnut. All the other brandwhores do it

>>10436783

I don't personally find it a problem when it's just people expressing how they feel about items or talking about what they did and didn't get; but I think the convo then tends to devolve into AP needing or not needing to chance stock or business practices, whether or not it's okay to buy release items you missed from scalpers, etc. And the discussion about APs business choices or how they could improve or change or if they even should or need to could make up its own thread. That's probably more of what people are bothered by.

>>10436785

Lately there haven't been as many though and people usually discuss all releases in the general regardless of brand or substyle. People just tend to argue or complain or get the most hype about sweet stuff it seems.

>>10436788
Yes, this is exactly the issue. Especially because if you try to involve other brands it goes nowhere. It’s clearly not a general lolita discussion, it’s an AP specific one

>>10436769
In the last few threads it's always been the same two or three people who are extremely dramatic about it saying they're ~literally crying~ or they're ~absolutely heartbroken~ over not getting the latest release. They will jerk each other off for being overly invested in these accessories saying and lash out at anyone who says they're being annoying and immature.

>>10436792

It's probably more than two or three but definitely the people arguing on either side are a small handful compared to everyone else.

>>10436790

Tbh this is why I forever prefer other sweet brands when buying new. Being an Apfag is borderline moral and political now with the "ethics" of buying from scalpers, people talking about buying less items they want just to let other people have some, etc.

I just want cute shit and to be able to buy it stress free without forwarding or SS and the material be decent. With AP everything seems like it's anxiety inducing or going to incite a thread long debate. At least from the outside looking it it makes it look that way.

>>10436792
>not loving anything in lolita enough to understand other anon's disappointment

>>10436792
>not loving anything in lolita enough to understand other anons' disappointment

>>10436811
Nice cope, enjoy crying over cheap jewelry.

>>10436758
Yeah, the way you pay confuses me though, I think you have to pay through the Angelic pretty Tokyo store? Either in person or through bank transfer, I'm not sure if bank transfer just means if you can pay the way you normally would

>>10436772
After rereading it, it does say that, oops lmao

>>10436815
Lighten up, anon. I'm just messing with you, and we're literally all here to talk about some frivolous princess dresses. That's our common denominator, and no one here is really above that.

>>10436824

Yeah people are getting so aggressive these days. All lolitas don't need to be lovelies but the the stakes are as low and plastic jewelry and frilly dresses it seems like a waste of time to get so angry. We're in a good enough place that we spend some of our free time chatting about Japanese street fashion on anon; why are people always on edge?

Has anyone found any good casual blouses or accessories from shein? I'm trying to pad my order for free express shipping lol

>>10436847

You may as well just use taobao and get lolita specific items; most shops like these probably source from taobao or the same factories. Try asking in the stupid questions thread (not saying your question is neccesarily dumb, but that's kinda what the help thread is for).

You go gulls >>10436851

>>10436853

The more lolita threads on this board the merrier; it makes things more lively. The board feels really stagnant when I hide all the annoying cosplay troll bait threads and con threads.

Could anybody ID the dress in this pic? Sorry if this is not the right thread for this, I don't go on this board often.

>>10436372
Beautiful. Where was this posted? I can’t find it.

>>10436861
I might be dumb (or blind) but it rather looks like a longsleeved cutsew to me

Wow this general is actually really slow and boring without APfags

>>10436942
good.

>>10436899
It's from Yui Minakata's twitter
https://twitter.com/YuiMinakata/status/1282615949162471424

>>10436942
I feel like anything I'm excited enough to post about sells out too fast for me to grab one, so I might as well post only ugly things that I don't mind other people snatching up. Pic related, some new A/P monstrosity.

>>10436720 I ordered some wristcuffs from them and they arrived in 2 wks.

>>10436906
Thank you, but I'm not familiar with this term and when I Google it all I see are a bunch of shirts. Could you be more specific?

>>10437059
You’re honestly just going to have to pm the girl wearing it to know exact brand, theres so many cutsews out there with lace and ruffle trim ... good luck.

Just saw this on someone's LM profile...

>>10437128
and? if the girl wanted them she'd have taken them.

>>10437128
yikes. well, maybe he paid for dresses as gifts and made her give them back during the break up?

>>10437059
A cutsew is a piece more casual than a blouse, sometimes a dressy t-shirt basically. Often cotton or lace. Google "lolita cutsew".

>>10436720
If you live in Burgerland, then it's because US shipping has been extra trash lately. USPS and customs have been struggling with everything since COVID. Where did it end up last update?

>>10437059
This isn't the ethot fashion thread

>>10437140
Thanks!

>>10436772
You pay half up front and the other half when you pick up the reservation

>>10436820
You go to the AP in Laforet to pay or you pay through a bank transfer (furikomi). The latter is a common payment option in Japan because not many places accept credit cards

>>10437128
that's.... so weird like why even mention that

>>10437145
Forgot to mention, sorry, I'm in northeast EU! If I remember correctly the last tracking update just said that it has left France, and that was on the 17th of June. I'm probably just panicking over nothing here but I want my necklace...

>>10436861
this looks like a vintage Gunne Sax dress to me.

>>10437037
This dress would of been so cute as a just-waist style instead of this ugly ass high waist monstrosity.

I wish baby did more prints like this

Atelier Boz - Items under reservation
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>Price: 26,180 yen (tax incl.)

Colours:
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Outer material: 100% polyester
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Colours:
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Material: 100% polyester

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Colours:
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Outer material: 65% polyester, 35% rayon and 100% polyester
Lining: 100% polyester

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Shoulder width: 36.5 cm
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Product code: BZ6292

>>10437379
same, their sugary sweet is adorable

>>10437385
I'm so sad I missed that release.

Im an APfag but I might become a Babyfag if they released more stuff like this

>>10437128
Wasn't some black girl on facebook complaining about how her ex stole her wardrobe and she had to start over? Is this related?

>>10437379

I hate marine themes but can agree that it is cute and well designed; I love how they do the scalloped and regular JSK cuts for a lot of prints too. Or for Kumyas sweet ice cream the "dripping" effect on the bodice was adorable!

>>10437407
Yes. I remember who that girl is. I wonder if anyone will tell her lmao

>>10437407

God that sounds fucking depressing and terrifying. And it's idiotic that this seller would even mention that they're profiting off their ex's belonging after they broke up. It probably makes people not wanna buy from them.

>>10437128
oh fug I think someone on cgl posted about their boyfriend holding their brand hostage not too long ago

>>10437428
People would buy coveted dresses from a literal Nazi if it was there. Don't pretend like we care about anything besides getting the dress we want

>>10437434

I dunno would anyone buy a coveted print from a sissy tho?

Even desperate sweetfags draw a line somewhere at times. Honestly sissies are worse than Nazis as far as buying from them feeling gross in this fashion.

>>10436372
Bless mana for these new batch of releases. We are finally getting some headdresses and it's with that gorgeous coffin lace.

I just paid £55 for shipping and I want to kill myself now.

>>10436720
I ordered some socks a couple of weeks ago, I'm in the UK and they arrived 3-4 days after they were sent

>>10437458
I once got a load of shit from mercari and paid 70 quid just to get it by boat, the cheapest and slowest option
rip in piss me

I really don't get the honeycake hype.
Its so boring to me?
Idk maybe its because I like pastel prints more.

>>10437458
>only £55
Oh boy it’s only gonna get worse from here

>>10437462
It's a very cute print but imo the round cut is super ugly, kills it for me personally. That and seeing it everywhere makes it less whimsical to me.

>>10437434
speak for yourself

>>10436828
Social media conditioning is toxic to our means of communication. People are primed for aggression at every online interaction. I've been becoming more and more isolated these days because people have become more and more aggressive even when it comes to opinions they aren't strongly invested into. Nowadays, especially with the lockdowns, I just wanna lock myself in my apartment all day and put in coords just for the sake of wearing around the house without anyone else seeing.

>>10437145
Prepare for it to get even slower with USPS as the idiot post master took away overtime to ensure they fall even more behind.

>>10437371
here you go

>>10437537
Wow what is that ugly ruffle thing, and the colour is terrible

>>10436712

Would there be any gulls in Europe or Australia willing to do a SS sort of thing for people who want to buy from sellers who don't ship internationally? There is a piece I really want to buy but the seller seems very set against international shipping.

>>10437537
Still ugly

>>10437443
I’m depressed that you are right

>>10437537
why did they do everything in their power to make it ugly

>>10437591

Imagine a lolita wanting to buy Dreamy Baby Room cause they think it is a cute and sweet print but the only one selling it was a known sissy?

I'm gagging just thinking about it...

>>10437593

Because it's AATP. I find like 90% of their non ouji items cheap and ugly looking even though BABY is so cute and great. Maybe I don't pay enough attention to their simple items that aren't complete eyesores.

>>10437443
I would if it's a good enough deal. I don't really care about the seller's personal life.

>>10437599

Tbh same but I'd be worried about undisclosed bodily secretions being present or the person being creepy if they had my addrrss from PayPal or LM.

More about what someone as degenerate as a sissy might do with the dress or info they get about you than the fact that they are a sissy.

>>10437595
Sissies are disgusting, I’m only sad that we don’t hold nazis at the same level

>>10437611

Nazis are also bad but let's be real, gulls find that more forgivable a trait than people who use lolita for their kinks.

>>10437458
How big was the package?

>>10437537
The fuck has been going on with aatp recently? I miss their old prints, I've got such a soft spot for that kind of romantic aesthetic.

>>10437557
I'm in Europe & would consider doing it, have you got a throwaway email I can contact you on?

>>10437622
>recently
new designers, I guess

>>10437598
you're right, i just used to love their pieces as >>10437622 mentioned. one of them was my first main piece, seeing this shit hurts lol

>>10437622
to be fair, they're still doing the windows and flowers thing

>>10437380
Boz is my favorite brand but this is not cute at all imo. It looks like something an anime character would wear.

>>10437412
Yes! The dress details usually feel so thought out and really harmonize with the prints.

>>10437614
It's only because there's no reason to believe a nazi would cum on their brand.

anyone ordered from FromJapan in the last 2 months via air or seamail and gotten their order? I'm still waiting on my stuff and it's been around a month and a half

>>10437653
Considering airmail is delayed considerably due to covid and seamail takes around 4 months normally, you’re worrying about nothing.

>>10437655
I probably am, I'm just pining after the btssb heart bag, its my own fault for choosing cheap surface mail

>>10437653
I haven't received my order but I got an email from them asking me to choose between having the parcel returned to them to ship via a different method or to have the parcel remain at the post office until it can be shipped via airmail.

>>10437598
I haven't been following their releases for years as I mostly loved their early, actual pirate inspired designs. Even >>10437622
kind of time was so different to these moldy colors that they seem to like using on very random elements.

>>10437665
>actual pirate inspired designs.
which prints are those?

>>10437653
My seamail from tenso took 2 months, not from japan but might help.

>>10437653
i use fj, and my order from late may arrived about a week ago or so?

>>10437614
That’s exactly the problem, I don’t see why we should be more disgusted with fetishists than with actual nazis

>>10437652
Yes, a nazi probably wouldn’t cum on their brand and this is a good point, but they are still disgusting and people shouldn’t allow their presence at lolita spaces as it threatens the safety of the community as much as sissies

>>10437653
East coast US anon here. I used Tenso to ship some shoes and bags using seamail and my parcel arrived in about 7 weeks. I hope yours arrives soon!

>>10437674
Like this one! https://lolibrary.org/items/aatp-pirates-alice-print-ii-op-with-apron
Plus the numerous non print items lile jackets, pirate hats etc.

I understand that they can't be drawing treasure chests and making eye patches forever, but I guess I was very disappointed to see their latest designs and how different they are to the ones that I loved, and like anon above said many items do look cheap from the photos.

>>10437687
ah yeah this is the kind i thought you meant. i really loved these too, they are much more bold. i am not a big fan of the color combos they keep using lately either. i

>>10437602
>undisclosed bodily secretions
I think that's a risk with female sellers too. I see enough lolitas talking about how their boyfriends really like the style to the point I'm sure quite a few have had sex in it before

>>10437703
agree, most people have had sex in some of their clothing. even normies do thi.

I had a look on the aatp online shop selection following the little conversation with >>10437694, and I found the designs...just very weird.

Not just for aatp but for lolita of all brands - do you think we've reached a design saturation point, where designers throw parts of different dresses together and hope for the best? Do you feel like you're not really seeing anything new anymore?

>>10437714
i feel like designs were saturated before especially by certain brands, but maybe now they are becoming less aesthetically pleasing, if that makes sense. i personally don't like the use of chiffon on print dresses being so prominent, which seems to be a trend in a ton of brands.

the article is partially intetestibg

https://www.sugoi.com.pe/conociendo-el-universo-lolita/

>>10437703
It doesn't even have to be cum stains. A lot of girls in this fashion lack basic hygiene skills and will sell dresses with undisclosed sweat stains, period stains etc.

>>10437703

Their boyfriend liking the style doesn't mean they're going to fuck them in it though?

That's like saying if your boyfriend likes your hairstyle he'll want to cum in it.

Meta is selling a plus-size version of Daydreaming Goldfish Tucked Pinafore JSK to thank their international customers for their support. The item will only be shipped internationally via EMS.

Reservation period: around noon on July 15th (Wed) - July 27th (Mon) 2020 (JST)
https://www.metamorphose.gr.jp/product/series/3463?fbclid=IwAR1HXYv8ubYl5kauMQFlieNLIord3NVvUts0LksmWhoeqoUJS6d2xNb6VZY&language=en

>>10437751

And those people should be named and shamed for nondisclosure but BO and having a period is normal and sweat stains are only so severe.

Those girls aren't sexual predators getting off to you finding the stains they left out, they are just liars/possibly scammers.

Sissies would probably jizz on your Sugary Carnival inner petti and send it express at no extra charge to make sure it hasn't had time to dry before you try on the dress. (I wash my secondhand items before wearing anyway but some people do try ons before washing it thoroughly)

>>10437756

God dammit why couldn't it have been one of the cute floral prints? Or literally any of their things but Wa?

I'm so grateful for Meta's forgiving sizing and ease of ordering and recent lack of putting out monstrous or weird designs but I will never like wa and I feel like it would be the hardest to do plus sized because kimono and yukata are predicated on the idea that you are slim and straight up and down (when I was thin but curvy I looked fat in kimono because of the pillow padding and stomach stiffened they have to add for the layers to lie flat and straight on you).

I'm sure other people will be happy though and the design and colorway aren't ugly or anything.

>>10437752
If your bf likes your hair in pigtails, he'll wanna fuck you in pigtails sometime. Men are simple creatures, they wanna fuck involving anything they like.

>>10437756
was this model shooped to look elderly for some reason?? never seen that before

>>10437768

Just because your boyfriend likes it doesn't mean you have to do it while he fucks you? My boyfriend loves my sense of style and I love OTT sweet lolita and he has zero interest in ever having sex with me in a particular outfit whether it's lolita or not. Men aren't all sex obsessed fetishists.

>>10437766
What are you on about? The wa lolita silhouette has little to do with the traditional kimono silhouette. Meta is just using Japanese design motifs. That particular cut in the stock photo is fairly accommodating for busty and curvy lolitas. No need for padding.

>>10437768
Clothes aren't hairstyles though?

>>10437760
Has that last scenario actually ever happened to someone in the lolita community? I don't spend time around sissies so I don't know if this is something they actually do.

>>10437775

I guess I'm imagining as a busty person the way the chest area is made so flat and neatly folded like a kimono looking off on a larger busted girl. I could be wrong though as the wa aesthetic in general rarely appeals to me in lolita so I'm biased against it.

Still I love Meta and like...the upper end of those sizes are huge, which is pretty kind of them to do (I think the max bust is 145 cm and the max waist is 130 on the Plus-Plus size). It's even bigger than MTO HC (and looks nicer imo) So now bigger people have another option available.

>>10437777

I'm just pointing out the type of worries you might have running through your head buying from a male fetishists VS a normal woman since mentally a sweat stained dress is less disturbing than cum stains from a dude who is forcing you to participate in his fetish by leaving something on the piece.

>>10437714
>>10437722
I'm an AP brandwhore and this has been true for the past couple years at least. Every year we get the same themes - a strawberry print, a cherry print, a mermaid print, a girly/room print, a retro print ala fantasic dolly/Cinema doll, a space/horoscope print, etc. Usually they get less aesthetically pleasing with each iteration. Lately they'll try and get creative and mash two of the themes together with lackluster results.

I think I'm in the minority where I like their simple 'mature' stuff though, especially when it has a retro twist (see the falling heart series currently on sale). So I end up getting a dress new on occasion.

>>10437756
Dang it, I'm 5'5" like the model in pic related so I would love to buy the size between the two shown. But it's such a special occasion type of dress - I wish it was one from their Basic Series instead so I could more wear out of it. But it makes sense for a special thank-you to choose a special dress. Also that pink is so cute, but it's only in Plus Plus Size and not in Plus Size.

>>10437703
Yup. I've bought a JSK on LM that came with condoms and used tissues in the pockets.

>>10437768
This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever read

>>10437793
Name and shame

>>10437794
t. virgin

>>10437802
I’ve been dating the same man for three years. He likes the way I look in lolita but we’ve never fucked in it, nor has he ever brought it up.

>>10437802

t.maleposter/pickme

>>10437804

Same. My boyfriend is super supportive and thinks my style is very cute but when I was testing to see if he was a fetishist and asked him about sex and lolita he honeslty looked confused that I even considered wearing ANY clothes at all during sex, much less my pricier frilly ones.

>>10437773
>>10437804
>>10437809
i guarantee your boyfriends have masturbated to a ton of fucked up shit before, probably including lolita

>>10437811

Nah. Mine masturbates exclusively to hentai and the weirdest thing he likes is those X-ray shots.

Everyone's not a degenerate. You sound like a filthy maleposter trying to normalize the fact that you're a repressed sick fuck/have weird sexual preferences by pretending all men are like that.

Unrelated to the current whining about how sexy men apparently find lolita, I wish that chick on LM listing KERA magazines would put them all in one fucking listing. I'm tired of looking for updates and seeing a bunch of magazines. Did KERA even have patterns or any practical use like GLB and ONS?

>>10437809
>he honeslty looked confused that I even considered wearing ANY clothes at all during sex, much less my pricier frilly ones.
Pretty much this! Real sex isn't whatever you're seeing in porn >>10437811

>>10437822
you have to wear clothes when you fuck outside, silly! (i am gyaru though so i think we are different)

>>10437811
Oh I get it, you’re a scrote

>>10437825

God the fucking larping in this thread. Even most gyaru have nothing to do with sex work. Japanese ones might have hostess jobs but that's just getting drunk men to simp for you.

I’ve heard from some lolitas in my own comm about doing it in lolita, around half of everyone who was present at the time had done it in lolita clothes, but none in brand, they would choose the cheapest pieces on their wardrobe to prevent the brand from staining. I myself would let my boyfriend do me in lolita if he bought me a dress with that specific purpose that wouldn’t be used on other occasions.
We were all woman, no questions were asked about reselling the pieces so well, it’s always a risk.

>>10437828
i'm not talking about sex work, moron.

>>10437831
>We were all woman

Scrote caveman larper speak.

>>10437832

Even so, every gyaru isn't an exhibitionist/taboo fetish having horn dog. Plus this is a lolita thread. If you wanna brag about your gyaru sex capades to it in the gyaru thread.

>>10437835
Calm down anon, if you don't want people to post, don't respond to them.

>>10437821
THANK YOU.

>>10437821
Literally came here to post about this. Her listings would be more appropriate to Kei Market.

>>10437840

I wonder if it counts as going over the limit for off brand items and could be reported since it's not known mostly for lolita and is more general.

>>10437617
I'm sure the glb and the atelier pierrot corset dress were what really did it.

>>10437833
I don’t know what sounds like a scrote to you about this, maybe something was written weirdly as english isn’t my first language, but you can believe what you want, I’m just bringing my own experience about this topic to the forum. Maybe it was something very specific to my comm idk, just don’t think all lolitas are completely against having sex in it and that there’s no chance bodily fluid has ever came near your secondhand clothes, specially bodyline and cheap side of taobao.

>>10437871
Having sex in clothes is awful and having sex wearing lolita sounds worse. Congrats on your active imagination I guess

>>10437873

NAYRT

What a cope lmao

Sex in clothes is not uncommon at all

>>10437873
Even the most vanilla couples I have enough intimacy to know about this have tried some kind of sexy clothing to have sex at some point, maybe that’s not your thing, but it’s completely normal.

>>10437884
A costume or lingerie intended to be sexy is different than sex in your normal clothes. The latter is far less common than the former.

>>10437780
It's not folded, it is sewn pieces of fabric. If you are big, it will stretch the shirring in the back and bring the sides of the design forward. Nothing happens to the front because it's sewn together

>>10437811
>>10437817
>>10437826
Why is everyone assuming this is a male and not a male-hating lesbian instead? Also, I hate to break it to you but you'll never really know what someone masturbates to unless you can look inside their mind while they're doing it.

>coming back to check on the general after being banished to the AP thread because "sToP dErAiLiNg"
>sex
>nazis
Wow. This somehow got much worse when we left.

>>10437897
They brought this upon themselves for messing up the balance, good thing we got the superior ap thread now

>>10437897
>>10437899
Nobody misses your complaining. Go back to your containment thread.

>>10437897
Sex in lolita is not completely off topic though

>>10437906
enjoy your nazis and jizz-stained petticoats talk while we have an actual normal discussion about lolita fashion in our so-called "containment thread"

>>10437912

It's a shitty topic. I prefer people whining about AP more.

>>10437927
Go ahead, you won't be missed.

>>10437888
You must be a total prude. Sex in every day clothes, sun dresses for example, are super common. Ive seen multiple discussions about people banging in lolita.

>>10436712

Can we talk about something besides sex? I'm not a prude but this is equally ad annoying and repetitive but less on topic than people complaining about AP stock or scalpers.

We get it, some people like to fuck with clothes and some naked, idgaf about anyone's sexual preferences and at this point it's not even about lolita but sex in clothes VS no clothes.

>>10437906
Oh I will gladly stay there, far away from you freaks. At least we now know why the general has gone to shit, but thanks for blessing us with the idea of an ap general kek.

>>10437933
if nazi semen is more up your alley instead of lolita, maybe this board isn't for you? try /pol/

>>10437949

Tbh I was gonna say I hate the current general topic. If I wanted in depth convo about random sexual shit or gave a shit about men's fetishes or desires I'd:

1. Not wear lolita, and
2. Would go to literally ANY other board on this site or one of the random cosplay borderline softcore porn spam threads currebtly take up space on cgl.

>>10437953
Then start discussing an interesting topic?

>>10437963
>takes a shit in the middle of the floor
>just walk around it!
or if they could just not, that'd be great. I'd rather have a boring, empty floor.

>>10437963

I've discussed how I like Baby's designs like another anon, we all had a chat about AATPs decline, I brought up the annoying girl on LM listing literally every issue of KERA. I guess people just didn't think any of it was interesting enough.

>>10437968
It’s sad that not only are AATP’s designs not as interesting anymore, but their quality is bad too. BABY quality is still decent but for some reason AATP isn’t at the same standard, it’s really disappointing.

I know the secondhand market is kind of fucked right now, but god damn. It feels like prices have absolutely skyrocketed out of nowhere and it's so frustrating.

>>10437973
I would consider paying that much maybe if the dress wasn't so fucking old but these are all 10 year old dresses with faded prints, its just really not worth it

>>10437969
For some reason aatp uses wide, huge ruffles, sometimes in shiny materials and take the item straight to theatre costume. My soul dies a little every time a brand does this. Granted they're not the same style, but I think VM hands down has the most elegant use of ruffles and trims.

Is anyone here a nurse?

I'm planning to go to nursing school and im wondering how much spare time one would have in that career to go to meet ups and dress up

>>10437990
It depends on what type of nursing you plan on doing and where you live.

>visiting nurse master race

>>10437996
Well I want to work in a neonatal unit specifically and im in the US

>>10437998
Nta but every nurse I know has very little personal time and are usually tired af. Even worse when you're in your first few years and your schedule isn't regular.

Meta's summertime berry offering!

>sweet berry gingham sereis
>< Pre-Order Starts >
Online: around 5:00 p.m. on July 16th (Thu) (JST)
In-Store: opening time on July 17th (Fri)

>< Estimated Arrival Date >
early - middle of August 2020

* Schedule may change.
* Please note that there is a possibility of delay in production or shipment due to the epidemic of COVID-19.
In the event of the change of arrival date, we will make an announcement as soon as possible.

>< Products >
• sweet berry gingham Short Sleeve Dress
• sweet berry gingham Ribbon Dress
• sweet berry Ribbon Headband

>< Colors >
Black, Cream, Red

>>10438016
Meta is fucking killing it this year. Personally I found Meta’s releases last year boring but they’ve been releasing adorable stuff this year

>>10438016
fuck yea. i love berry prints with jam n shit.

>>10437996
Pretty sure you get weekends off unless you're in the emergency room, so the same amount of free time as most other jobs

I wish lolita was 18+

Its really annoying interacting with idiotic 14 years olds half the time and seeing them act like they're qualified to be giving advice

>>10437128
All the stuff he's selling is odds and ends, like cheap blouses and some head bows. He mentioned having to pay for his ex's plane ticket home, and was looking to recoup the cost, so it seems fair to me that he sell some of the things left behind, especially since she should have paid for her own ticket.

>>10437595
>thinking a sissy would sell DBR

A sissy would wear that thing until it fell apart. Any DBR in a sissy's closet is stained, ripped, wrinkled, and probably smells like piss. I'm okay with that dress never hitting any market, ever.

>>10438114
I wish it was 25+. Tired of dealing with spoiled college aged morons, aka most of cgl

>>10438016
Not usually the biggest meta OR berry print fan but this is genuinely very cute and far more tempting than my budget would care for.

>>10438139
Can't relate cuz I'm 21 so that means I'm booted

>>10438114
>>10438139
Unfortunately, stupidity spans across all age ranges.

>>10438157
True but far more teenagers act stupid

>>10438139
Agree

>>10437537
The bodice is fine but the skirt portion on this is ugly. The side ruffles are a lot nicer looking on the other jsk, but it’s ruined by being high waisted.

>>10438139
Good luck with that. Old hags don't look good in lolita

>>10438197
Yeah i wish there was a separate lolita group for the granny's that are 25+ and one for those of us that actually look cute

>>10438206
*grannies

>>10438204
>25
>old hag
ok zoomer

If I entered the lottery myself, would I be able to hire a shopping service to pick it up, instead of fully going through an SS?

>>10438209
Cool I'm a zoomer

Wrinkles aren't kawaii btw

>>10438211
who wrinkles at 25 lmao

>>10438212
I'm hitting 30 soon and no crows feet yet thankfully.
Just wear sunscreen and have a proper skincare routine, it's not rocket science.

>>10438210
In theory yes. I’ve had friends pick up orders for me before, so someone else can pick it up if it’s in your name. I’ve never asked an SS to though but they probably would.

>>10438216
Okay cool, think I'll just do that then. Thanks anon!

>has been logging into Closet Child at 4 AM on the dot the last couple of days
>all the really good shit gets sold out as soon as I put it in my cart
>not even 4:05 yet

Please tell me this is a normal thing so I don’t feel like an ass for waking up at this time every day

>>10438212
Druggies and over workers

>>10438233
Yep this is normal and I’d love to know who those people are that buy them so fast

>>10438233
It’s normal, everything goes fast now, not just on CC

>>10438204
I don’t understand this mentality, aren’t we all going to be 25+ eventually? Unless you plan to quit lolita once you’re 25 but I can’t understand that either if you love it

>>10438250
Some people can’t grasp the concept that they won’t be young forever.

>>10438250
25+ year old lolitas be like

>>10436712

So sad my BABY orders from late May/early June have shown no signs of being in San Fransisco or on their way to me yet since confirming I wanted them to deliver it that way. I knew it was a risk going in but I just desperately want my cute things...I wonder if I should contact SS next time I order or use a forwarding service?

I'm probably just being impatient and it's not worth the extra money for Yamato shipping and SS fees...

Why is it so fucking difficult to find a simple blouse like this?

Everything is either cottagecore bullshit or weird flouncey mesh sleeves and shit with ugly ruffles all over the shoulders and neck

WHY why WHY

>>10437990
Uk here, my sister is a nurse and works 3 or 4 12 hour shifts a week, but a lot of the time she's shattered on her days off because her shift pattern changes between nights and days so reguarly. She's thinking of switching to community nursing which is 9 to 5 monday to friday

>>10438310
even worse, one like this but short sleeved and NOT scratchy as shit. even burando blouses seem to have itchy lace on the sleeves

>>10438310
Why don't you buy the one in the pic...? There's various simple ones like that one Taobao

>>10438209
Yeah wtf, I'm 24 and im the youngest person in my comm, I've never gotten this whole lolita being a young person thing, everyone i know that wears it is an adult who can afford to buy it

>>10438314
I honestly can't find any, maybe I'm just terrible at navigating taobao. They're all either to ruffly or not fitted enough. If you have any links for similar ones that would be great.

>>10438314
Oh also, I looked for this one and apparently its out of stock.

>>10438310
>>10438317
https://world.taobao.com/item-amp/607830735360.htm?spm=a21wu.11787984-tw.3.16
from the same shop
why not just get the ones that aren't fitted tailored?

>>10438319
I'm my opinion it doesn't really suit OTT sweet styles, but maybe I'm wrong? Idk it just feels more country but I could be overthinking it.
Thanks for the link tho

New kuma things on Baby page

>>10438238
>>10438240
Thank you for the reassurance

I’ve been out of this fashion for a couple of years and have been rebuilding my wardrobe during quarantine, I’m just baffled at how quick everything goes nowadays

Millefleurs - Rose Jacquard JSK (ローズジャガードのジャンバースカ-ト)
>Price: 26,800 yen (tax not incl.)

Colours:
>Rose
>Lavender
>Sax blue

Bust: 78 cm - 100 cm
Waist: 58 cm - 90 cm
Length: 100 cm

>https://millefleurs-noirs.com/f-911.html

Millefleurs - Rose Jacquard JSK (ローズジャガードのジャンバースカ-ト)
>Price: 26,800 yen (tax not incl.)

Colours:
>Rose
>Lavender
>Sax blue

Bust: 78 cm - 100 cm
Waist: 58 cm - 90 cm
Length: 100 cm

>https://millefleurs-noirs.com/f-911.html

>>10438344
so pretty

>>10438344
I'm so glad Millefleurs is back

>>10436712

Are there any people that do OTT Sweet coords without Angelic Pretty main pieces? I wish I could find examples so I could have reference for how to coord BTSSB or Meta pieces similarly even though their style is a bit different than AP

>>10438210
I'm not sure how you plan to pay for it without showing up.

>>10438401
Bank transfer?

>>10438408

Bank transfer probably means Japanese bank I think. So your SS would have to make that payment I guess on top of picking up right? You may as well place the whole order with SS

>>10438391

They're really not that far off, you could practically lift all the styling from an AP outfit and apply it to a Baby/Meta outfit with very little modifications. Probably the biggest difference imo is that Baby dresses are slightly less poofy so it's a little harder to activate full OTT, but you can certainly make up for it with Usakumya or whatever.

AP on left and Btssb on right here.

>>10437623

Thanks anon! Here is a throwaway email if you wanna discuss how much of a fee you'd want to charge or anything. Right now I just really want this one sax headbow that doesn't ship outside of Germany or EU and this super cute dress from an Aussie seller (anyone reading this in Australia willing to do something similar, please email me!) That said they won't post outside of Australia or NZ possibly.

I'm totally willing to pay international shipping but maybe it is too much of a hassle for people or international postage costs are seriously affected by exchange rates or COVID right now? I remember discussion in the stupid questions thread a while ago about shipping to the US or not and a lot of international gulls seemed to have had trouble with American buyers being entitled or impatient I guess.

>>10438440

Nice! I actually own the BTSSB dress and have just been cording it really simply with a chocolate brown and pink cardigan and pink otks and very plain brown shoes and headbow. I guess I need to sort of think outside the box and style stuff a little more flashy or over the top than Baby typically does on their models. I think if I can buy the matching headbow and add a Kumya and some bear ears to match the brown things it'll take it to the next level a bit!

>>10438449

I'm actually convinced they do it deliberately to maintain a distinct brand identity that looks different from AP.

Regardless, makes dressing up more fun when you can think of interesting things to do with a dress other than style it the way the brand styles it on their models.

AP on left and btssb on right again.

>>10438456

By the way a heads up to anyone who wants this BTSSB print; the JSK and headbow are on fril right now for only ¥6000 or ¥8000, possibly with other stuff. It's for some reason cheap as he'll and such a cute print. I bought mine from a friend for like double that so still under $200 but it's really a steal if you're interested in it. It's called Chocolate Fascinate Fairytale I'm pretty sure.

>>10438456

Yeah I think you're right as far as styling. Even BTSSBs non old school pieces are always styled very simply and toned down in comparison to AP. Their headbows, even the head eating ones have a more tame and flat look if you want them to and the skirts use less fabric/have less poor and look better with a-line pettis in comparison to AP pieces. I have altered dresses for comm members before and when deconstructing and reconstructing them the differences in the way they are put together that lean towards each brand's aesthetic is striking. BTSSB also uses torchon lace on so many more of their non old school sweet pieces than AP does since they use tulle most of the time. And BTSSB prints have a different aesthetic quality about them than AP. Using cotton more often than not also separates them from AP much more lately as well as Meta since they use blends fairly commobly on new stuff too I think.

>>10438233
I used to be able to checkout with what I wanted from a new closet child update (even cheaply priced popular things and jewelry) within a couple of minutes not even a year ago, but the last few months have been insane, I only have to click a listing and and by the time I click add to cart it's usually already gone.

The most soul crushing times have been when I've gone to click pay on paypal but I'm suddenly yanked back to the cart because someone bought it half a second faster.
I've mostly given up trying to be fast now honestly.

>70 USD shipping and random fees for a JSK, cutsew, and some rings

Never using Buyee again.

>>10438420
Plus they’ll still charge some kind of commission, they’re not going to do it for free. Anon will save like $20.

>>10438477

Buyer is garbage. Have one Seamail package with them that has shipped and another I haven't paid shipping for yet because they refuse to do Yamato and tried to force me to pay $60 for two pairs of otks via FedEx.

>>10438440
god damn I miss that look

>>10438204
>>10438207
>>10438211
>>10438255
You are now legally obligated to kill yourself on your 25th birthday, sorry
Responding to this post is also a voluntary tithing

>>10438233
>>10438238
I've been doing the same for a while now and I'm convinced these people are using bots.

>>10438204
>>10438211
You know, there's something called Botox, right...

Just saw this posted on a facebook group, isnt it an innocent world jsk?

>>10438606
It definitely looks like a replica of their Stradivarius JSK

>>10438606
Show Innocent World some respect! They’ve gone downhill but not that far..

>>10438489
same

>>10438477
You have to specifically tell buyee to remove excess packaging. Before shipping was stopped they charged me $75 shipping for a few dresses and I couldn’t figure out why

Then I got the package. They likely just put every single box that each dress came to them in, into ANOTHER huge box the size of a small child. I was baffled. Now I have to specifically contact them beforehand and tell them to remove the and discard boxes my items come in.

I have never experience anything like that before with any other shopping service.

>>10438869
>likely

Don’t know why I put that random word in there lol. They definitely did actually ship my package that way.

>>10438869
Ayrt, that's super fucking weird and I wouldn't have expected that. I applied for the package consolidation thing but haven't paid for the package shipping itself, do you think it's too late to ask them to box the items all together in one box?

Are these proof pics even real?

How would they have them this quickly if the new release is MTO? Did they just buy up all the old ones to scalp?

>>10438932
maybe they bought them when the series first came out like 7 years ago...?

>>10438932
It's from the 2013 release lmao

>>10438932
They probably bought them in the last FPS MTO (it was either 2018 or 2019, again limited to Tokyo iirc). I remember being very disappointed that AP USA didn't get the MTO and kicking myself for not getting a SS.

>>10438932
>>10438975
Excuse me, double checked on Lolita Updates and it was a MTO for GB week back in July 2017... And probably was sent out early 2018 is my guess.

>>10438982
Wait. So instead of all the other prints they could have chose to reprint, it was this one? That they've already rereleased? wtf AP...

>>10438606
That's wild, I'm on the same group too. It's all normies so of course they're posting links to Wish and eBay.
Sucks for Innocent World that their designs got ripped off like that.

>>10438985
it's a really popular series in Japan, and prices in the west used to fetch $400+ for the white or pink colors.

Anyone know of any crossbody heart bags?
If I have to carry a purse in my hand my adhd ass will def lose it somewhere

>>10438985
>>10438991
Chinese lolitas also love this one. And Melody Toys which keeps getting re-released too despite being hideous.

>>10438992
loris had some last time i checked

>>10438992
Vivienne Westwood has some convertible ones.

>>10438874
You should still be able to tell them if you haven’t paid yet I think

Can someone tell me why a transgender man would want to wear a frilly feminine fashion like lolita? Wouldn’t that make them dysphoric? Yes this is about that BSoLF post with the transgender guy who wants to dress up and show off his facial hair.

>>10438215
I don’t know anyone who’s 30 with serious crows Feet. Unless you’ve spent years taking meth there’s not a huge difference between 25 and 30 if you take care of yourself.

anyone else having trouble viewing the innocent world online shop? seems to just be gone

>>10439094
I can see it perfectly fine

From Fujiwara’s twitter, I think this is the prize for best dressed at the upcoming IW teaparty. I love it but IW need to chill with the tiers, I hope the AW collection aren’t full of tiered pieces like the Lauretta Rose remake

>>10439067
Because they aren't actually trans.

>>10439082
I know someone who's only 26 and has a bunch of wrinkles already. She never did drugs or anything but she has kids, I think that's why.

>>10439141
Yikes I like tiered cuts but only in solids or prints that don't get destroyed by being cut up. The tiers look haphazard and awkward with the print design

>>10439141
Fujiwara-san, I don't know what to say...

>>10439144
If they have facial hair they’re on hormones though, bio females don’t grow facial hair. I hate transtrenders too but I can’t see a bio girl going on male hormones just for attention.

>>10439167
You need dysphoria to be trans. A fakeboi is different from a real trans, even if they go on hormones. Some fakebois go as far as top surgery before going back to being women when they get bored of the transtrender life

>>10438489
You can still wear it

>>10439067
Same reason as any other man in the fashion, I guess. Transsexual people have a problem with their sexual characteristics, not the clothes they wear.

>>10439170
You don't need dysphoria to be trans. You're trans if you say you are trans.

>>10439067
It's almost like they are looking for something, something from other people, some kind of reaction whether it's positive or negative.. what's the word? Starts with "a", ends with "ttention"?

>>10438284
I reserved a bow in March and it arrived in late June. It will get there eventually

>>10439067
You guys care way too much about trans people's business lol

>>10439545
Ok tranny

>>10439545
I mean, the force their shit down every bodies throat and when people want to try to understand them, sudden it's none of our business but ok.

>>10439494
And this is why we have tons of perverted TIMs that sexually assault kids and women and get away with minor sentences.

>>10439564
You don't try to understand. You think you know everything and can dictate who is and isn't really trans.

Wow I am so grateful for the AP "containment" thread after catching up with this dumpster fire, the best thing cgl has done this year.

>>10439570
Tbh agreed. That thread has annoying bickering too but it least none of it was trans-terf feuds or sex related. The BTSSB thread is good too. Tbh it seems like just doing a sweet lolita general would be good since both sweet threads seem to have far less ot arguments or discussion.

>>10439575
I'd be down for a sweet general.

>>10439570
Same. I came back to check in again and thought I was in the wrong thread for a second.

>>10439570
Stop coming in here and complaining then.

>>10439490
Most trans people say their clothes make them feel dysphoric. They claim that wearing or not wanting to wear dresses is a sign of dysphoria.

>>10439494
Scientists and psychologists say otherwise.

>>10439581
Oh I will anon, enjoy your trans terf nazi sissy sex discourse~ <3

>>10439632
That's what you said last time and yet you're still here lmao, bitter much?

>>10439575
>>10439576
>>10439570
>>10439649

Why would you admit to not washing your fucking clothes you're trying to sell after wearing it?

>>10439733
Yeah that’s a weird fuckin thing to brag about

>>10439564
Don't say trans people are "forcing their shit down every bodies throat" when you're the one who just won't stop giving your unsolicited opinion about what others are doing with their lives.

>>10439585
Yeah, "most trans people". Just like most people abide by gender stereotypes. Unless you also think all men and women who challenge gender stereotypes are repressed trannies, I really don't understand what point you're trying to make ?

>>10439853
Oh noes we upset the twans )':

can anyone tell me how to get skid marks out of bloomers?

I ate taco bell and sharted in my btssb bloomers. I'm really glad it didn't happen at a meet but now I'm scared my brand bloomers are ruined.

>>10439567
Science and psychology defined that, not us.

>>10439853
All /real/ trans people have dysphoria. It's a medical requirement to be diagnosed as such.

>>10439644
Only to mock you ;^)

next thread >>10439878

>>10439861
Yeah and as I said earlier dysphoria is having a problem with your sexual characteristics, not the clothes you wear. You can both be trans and gender critical, you know.

>>10439884
Holy shit stay on topic and stop responding!!! This is the cosplay and lolita board.

>>>/lgbt/ is that way. What marginal relevance sissy freaks and AGPs have to our community is not present in this conversation