/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10467323
Fuck off t*ffany

>>10467323
Oh god are we really starting with the petitions as the OP again?

>>10467323
You have no shame do you?

>>10467327
I think it’s okay to link some ongoing stuff in OP

>>10467330
no one wants those.

>>10467323
Are you autistic or something? Is that why you can't stop harassing people with this shit even after everyone has made it clear that we don't want it? Jfc

>>10467334
>>10467329
>>10467327
let's just make a new thread.

>>10467334
She actually is an autist, yes. That’s why she won’t cut it out despite everyone telling her to fuck off

>>10467338
I understand not picking up on social cues but when people are explicitly telling you to fuck off and you still don't then you're either braindead or you enjoy the negative attention.

>>10467349
she probably thinks we are samefagging.

>>10467349
>you’re either brain dead or you enjoy the negative attention
Knowing her it’s probably both

>>10467350
I seriously think so because the last time someone tried to sabotage the campaign with made up reasoning.

>>10467358
"Made up reasoning" what the fuck are you even talking about?

Idk I kind of think the petitions are cute, just ignore it if you don't like it

>>10467369
This

>>10467369
>just ignore it if you don't like it
That's asking a lot from the kind of people on this board.

>>10467369
same

>>10467369
Would be a lot easier if she wasn’t so persistent in harassing people

>>10467476
Who is she harassing
Not defending just wondering

>>10467486
She got kicked out of her comm for it. Go to the farm

>>10467490
Oh shit lmao that’s pretty hilarious

>>10467490
Pls link

>>10467650
No fuck off. Lurkmoar newfag

Why do so many people here use the F slur?? You’re scumbags

how much is a complete set of toy fantasy jsk worth (includes sock and headbow). kinda regret reserving it

>>10467713
lol newfag

>>10467715
like $500+

>>10467713
Imagine coming to 4chan and expecting it to be PC

>>10467713
shut up fag

>>10467717
>>10467722
>>10467726
>taking the bait this hard

>>10467323
Your second time managing to jack an OP post and you still only have 20 signatures. Pathetic.

>>10467727
>everything is bait

>>10467731
Trust a farmer of the Jill thread to be too stupid to recognize b8

>>10467369
I'd sign if it was stated how they plan to present these directly to AP, but I don't think there's any way to actually do that

>>10467863

It'd probably have more visibility if the girls who are active on twitter started doing @ap_candy_ or @AP_onlineshop to bring their attention to it. I feel like the Japanese brands actually do pay some attention to their twitter.

>>10467863
They have this "Contact Us" form on the main site. Idk if that suits the purpose well, but it's still something.

>>10467323
Jesus christ Tiff*ny is your reading comprehension this bad? You've been told to fuck off dozens of times

>>10468478
Similarly, people can't seem to understand that you can just not acknowledge the petitions if you don't want to sign them.

Would be a *lot* less light shed on them if people just ignored them if they didn't want to sign :)

>>10467908
>>10467897
But those are run by customer service workers who have no bearing on anything, not the actual people who make decisions...

>>10468533
Fuck off T*ffany. It’s hard to ignore when you keep spamming it and messaging people about it

>>10468537

That's why I suggested twitter. You will also bring it to the attention of other girls, they'll also sign the petition, making it bigger, and if they retweet or talk about it they can also make it trend.

If it trends enough I just don't see even the SN wage monkey not actually bothering to bring it up with their bosses.

ap_candy_ in particular retweets other people, so that one is probably better monitored than ap_onlineshop.

>>10468547
the high-clout SM girls are the ones who already got theirs and want to keep it rare

It’s been interesting to check LM lately. It kind of reminds me of stocks. Since 2010 sweet is in high demand, you see more and more coveted pieces come up. And the prices all reflect the demand. I can’t help but wonder how each seller came to the conclusion to sell. I have a little stockpile of things I know would sell for a load, but I can’t imagine parting with them even if I could get $1k.

>>10468478
Don't be rude, I appreciate petition anon

>>10468644
You clearly are either unaware of what she’s done or are as shit of a person as she is.

>>10468623
This thread is currently trash so thank you for attempting a discussion topic.

I feel the same. I've spent around 10-15k on my entire AP sweet wardrobe and I realize right now if I sold everything I could triple my money. It boggles my mind, but I could never do it. I love it all too much.

I've been joking with my friends about listing my Chick-Chan on LM for $1k or something insane. Would anyone actually buy it? That AP pony bag aold for almost $400, and although expensive, pony bags aren't as rare as some of AP's other plush bags. I'm rotten for the thought of doing it, but I won't, because I'd cry without my divine chick friend.

>>10468623
My theory is that my AP cotton prints are really not going to continue to hold up for a long time since they wrinkle or fade eventually especially after 10+ years, I'm better off selling them now before they deteriorate further. Plus, if the prices go high enough then AP may re-release the dresses I sell and I can re-purchase them in newer quality.

>>10468673
Ya this thread is a shit show. Honestly I bet it would sell but I noticed that it’s the buyers that inflate the price, with little help from the seller. Granted most sellers have now taken notice and start the auction a little higher than they have been since COVID. I wonder when the resurgence will end, and what will the next “it” style be.

>>10468681
This is fair, but a huge gamble at the same time. I can drown my sorrows with naive hope that AP will do a re-release on something I lost on auction. But it’s a completely different pain if you let something go and it’s gone forever.

Also major kick in the face if AP decides to do a re-release and butchers it

>>10468681
>implying any brand knows or cares what the western secondhand market is like

>>10468701
You might as well have just put a neon sign on your post that says “I’m a newfag with no idea of what I’m talking about”

>>10468705
no jp brand gives a fuck about the western comm sis. get over it. their most lucrative market is china followed distantly by japan, the west's tastes have no influence whatsoever.

>>10468769
Ok newfag

>>10468771
ignorance is bliss ig

Toxic AP related feel:

Sometimes I watch Taobao unboxings on purpose when I'm down, to feel good about all my old AP in my closet.

>>10468788
oohh, now there's a clever idea

>>10468584

You just need enough people, they don't all have to be high-clout. If you have a hundred signatures and about 80 girls tweet it across a couple of days then it'd still be a lot of posts on one topic.

I mean, there's less than that many signatures right now, but that also means even if you send that petition link to AP in another way it wouldn't mean much.

>>10468871
These petitions have been up for months and still have a pitiful amount of signers. It’s even worse than when she tried to do it for honeycake. I suspect it’s because now more people know the person who starts these petitions is a piece of shit who harasses other lolitas so nobody with a brain wants anything to do with her

>>10468871
These petitions have been up for a month and still have a pitiful amount of signers. It’s even worse than when she tried to do it for honeycake. I suspect it’s because now more people know the person who starts these petitions is a piece of shit who harasses other lolitas so nobody with a brain wants anything to do with her

>>10468875

If no one wants to provide info here about what makes petition anon so bad or signing petitions so awful, how else do you expect people interested in rereleases to suggest them to AP? They miss the mark for many people these days and we have to make the demand known in some way. I haven't signed or looked at the petitions yet but I can see why people feel like they want to make sure AP is aware of what some customers really want

>>10468894
It has been discussed before newfag. And can be seen on the farm

>>10468894
first of all it’s against the rules to post stuff like that, but secondly it’s been discussed in at least three major threads within the past three months so nobody owes it to you to spoonfeed your new ass

>>10468899

I guess I just missed it; I never saw any accusations that had receipts and I hate having to go to lolcow just to read supposedly simple shit.

That doesn't make petitions generally a bad thing though, whether this person is annoying or not.

>>10468913
Nobody is saying petitions are bad. Your lack of reading comprehension is astounding. We’re saying these ones are flopping because the girl who made it is a crazy bitch who goes around stalking people on various websites and messaging them to get them to give her what she wants

>>10468915

Still, can we not just separate the petition from the person and sign just for the dresses? If someone in lolita behaves poorly that doesn't suddenly make me not want AP to release a dress I like because the other person wants it too.

>>10468917
Would you want people to separate it if you were the one she stalked? Why are you whiteknighting this autist?

If you guys want a petition so bad, can you not just make another one? It's not like the current one has a lot of signatures anyway, and if what you're saying about people not wanting to sign because of the petition starter is true, then the new one being made by someone (hopefully) drama-free would eliminate that problem and get you more signatures.

>>10468919

This is the most ideal outcome, yes.

>>10468919
I would but I don’t want to bring on the wrath of T*ffany’s tardrage

>>10468913
>I never saw any accusations that had receipts
There are a few anons in every AP general that shit up the place and whenever anything about petitiongirl is mentioned they swarm like gulls on trash. They swear they have all this stuff on petitiongirl but never post proof here or on lc, they just REEEE about her and get bitchy at people asking for info or telling them to drop it.

At this point they look more unhinged than petitiongirl.

>>10468952
She literally admitted it herself in the dream dress thread

>>10468953

She admitted to contacting a reseller/scalper type account on LM about if they had it, not contacting anyone else.

>>10468957

*about if they had her DD, which was a specific HC cut. And the person seemingly happily sold it to her.

>>10468924
>>10468923
i don't think there's any reason to do these petitions anyway. ap is straying further and further from the western market, and most people don't simply want the print, they want an exact remake, which ap isn't willing to do anyway.

>>10468953
>>10468957
>>10468953
God it is weird how quickly you reply whenever she is mentioned.

How do you even know that's her posting if it was anon?

I can practically feel your mouthbreathing from here, seriously get help.

>>10468961
>God it is weird how quickly you reply whenever she is mentioned.
yea it's really weird when you do that too. go to the farm and fuck off.

>>10468958
It wasn’t just one person she did it to idiot

>>10468952
Nobody knows who made the Sugary Carnival and Milky Planet petitions. The only proof anon could provide is claiming "it looks like her". They like saying "look at the farm" - I did look, there's no proof besides HC petition starter photo and some speculation on this point.

I am the person who posted it here and I haven't created any of them. From this point no anonymous petition will work because anon will shit on everything just because.

>>10468964
>nobody knows

Just admit you’re out of the loop and move on

>>10468961

>>10468957
Is me and the other ones are not. I'm fairly sure the person who had the HC special set as a DD did ask a reseller account on LM about the dress to buy it because someone in the thread asked where she found it and she said so, well before anyone was claiming she was petition anon or contacted anyone via IG which she denied, etc., which prompted more discussion than usual for at least a few weeks on cgl about whether or not it is okay to contact people about past purchases, what LM should or shouldn't do to hide past purchases in feedback, etc. after people freaked out over her mentioning how she found the dress because people were worried her success would encourage other DD seekers to message people about items (even though she said her item was not found via LM search history and the seller had actually bought it upon release and they only asked them because they were a reseller/scalper type account and she explicitly recommended people against contacting regular people on LM about their dresses).

THEN all the stuff about people claiming her being petition anon and supposedly instagram stalking someone totally different over the dress, etc. (proof of which was apparently posted on the farm according to everyone mad at her/constantly bringing this up).

>>10468967

So it is easy obvious info to find on the farm that asking for is spoonfeeding or do we need to be "in the loop" to know? Pick one.

Either way, >>10468959 is kind of right; new AP can't be trusted with rereleases that aren't cotton MTOs at this point and who knows if they'll do that or fuck it up like they did with Honey Cake. Maybe the fact that original HC was unpopular led AP to make cheaper shittier polyester versions for the rerelease but it was also a MTO with almost guaranteed profit of some level and they still chose to cheap out. Meanwhile Toy Doll Box gets multiple cuts as well as FPS.

It may not be worth the risk of requesting a rerelease just to get a lower quality piece when our biggest reference for how petitions work out is with a shittier version of the original product with only one cut.

>>10468957
she contacted a lot of people

>>10468973
Just ignore it. It’s a bunch of newfags who know nothing about the lolita community defending her acting like shitty behavior from her is somehow new

>>10468973
Who.

>>10468976
Lurkmoar newfag

>>10468970
> It may not be worth the risk of requesting a rerelease

This shit again, you're fucking kidding me.

>Poly MTO takes place

if you have an original release -> cotton is superior, dress keeps its value
if you don't have an original and like it -> buy it
if you don't have an original and hate -> skip it

>>10468976
https://rbt.asia/cgl/thread/10431775/#q10446198
https://rbt.asia/cgl/thread/10431775/#q10446304

>>10468979
are you dense? people want new cotton ones in circulation.

>>10468981
oh god this girl. i've heard horror stories about her

>>10468970
for all the whining that is done about the hc mto, it sold INSANELY well and raked in a ton of money, so ap will never see that as any type of failure. y'all need to get over it

>>10468988
The issue isn’t with the MTO. The issue is with the person who started it. AP doesn’t give a flying fuck about T*ffany despite what she may think

>>10468981
Is that really it?

Your hateboner is disproportionate. In fact, while I think it's shitty to message people not selling, it seems like she was pretty respectable how she went about it?

>>10468993
Fuck off T*ffany

>>10468993
That isn’t it. It’s the thread where she admitted to part of what she did. You’re either showing that you have no friends in this community or that you’re new.

Can someone from the comm she was kicked out of just drop those caps of her being a huge cunt to several members so newfags can shut up?

>>10468989
i'm referring to the people who constantly say ap "fucked up" hc with the poly/bigger size. hell, if sc came out in poly/bigger, i'd still buy one of every color. possibly two of each. and i know i'm not alone.

>>10468994
>>10468995
Tweedledee and Tweedledum, please go jerk each other off in private. Thanks.

>>10469000
Sure T*ffany. At least we weren’t kicked out of our comms for being psycho chavs

Can we get this thread deleted please?

>>10469004
Please

>>10469004
The next thread will have to be made without the petitions in the Op otherwise this’ll just start over again. She’s pissed off so many people by being a crazy bitch that any time she posts this will happen

>>10469002
The fact that you think anyone who finds you annoying to be her proves your neurosis is out of control. I don't even live on the same continent as your crazy comm. Something is clearly in the water over there, but by all means please continue sperging cuz it's hilarious.

>>10468993
I’m >>10468973 and that was my only other post, it’s not just one person posting in the thread, calm down

>>10469010
Nta but

>hi cow

Is as old as time and often used just to b8 even if people don’t believe they’re talking to the actual cow

>>10469010
tbf the London comm is full of spergs but T*ff is an actual retarded leech too autistic to stop harassing people. That’s why she got the banhammer from her comm

>>10469013
lmao I’m in london comm too and omg this is so accurate, it’s no wonder we have private chats they’re fucking needed

>>10469028
Speaking as a member of CLAM, this shit is why the rest of the UK lolitas hate the London comm

>>10469013
i heard that she is a neetbux leech

>>10469013
>>10469028
So it's the london lolitas that are being so obnoxious about this crap? No one cares about your drama, stop shitting up everywhere and contain yourselves to your inbred circles.

>>10469069
It’s not just the London lolitas. From what I can tell there are also at least two people she hounded on social media or lm for a dress she wanted that are doing it too. But I also know she has burned many, many bridges so I suspect some of those lolitas are also involved

>>10469008
This is one anon shitting up the thread. They’re going to shit up whatever petition is made.

>>10468952
I have at least 20 screenshots of this girl bothering me about petitions and buying her DDs but for obvious reasons she'd be able to search through her conversations and know it was me posting. Take your damn tinfoil hat off

>>10469142
Oh, wait, but HC petition is over and we’re doing SC/MP now. Try and read the thread again.

>>10469143
Did you reply to the wrong person or did you have a stroke?

Can someone contact Tiffany on fb and ask her to confirm she’s made the latter petition? There’s no other way to stop this garbage posting.

>>10469157

Is that not the same creepy autistic behavior you people were just reeing and sperging about?

Wtf is happening here?!

>>10469217
Holy shit.

>>10469217
Oh wow. I don't know how rare this is but I've had two milky planets over the years and neither came with a brooch. Wish people would keep jewelry in sets

>>10469217
The seller commented that the brooch has been sold. It's probably a placeholder price to discourage people from bidding.

>>10469253
Do you mean the brooch that comes with the OP? this brooch was sold as a seperate accessory item and was not part of the dress.

I just miss when there were cuter border prints with accessories and cutsews.

i was looking up stock photos for random dresses and came across neon star diner, and i noticed the belt is actually edited on in all the full dress photos
Just a weird fact i wanted to point out, idk if anyone else noticed

>>10469494
AP's trashiest release this year

>>10469253
>>10469411
No brooch ever came with Milky Planet. What brooch are you saying came with the OP? I'm so confused.

>>10469494
Wow. I didn't care about this release, so I never paid attention to the stock photos. This is hilarious.

>>10469217
>>10469253
Yo this is mine and I can explain - I sold it for $72 to someone I've had prior interactions with, they bid high (200ish) so they'd win the actual auction listing as a result. THEN someone named insane lolita bid it that high. At that time they were also covering the activity page with a lot of high-amount purchases. They have a lot of good feedback, it's a legit account. Just... an insane lolita.

>>10469497
>>10469508
yeah honestly im not into the retro vibes and it feels like a lot of the set can only really work with itself.
I just thought it was funny how they couldnt be bothered to just, put the dress back on the form with the belt and retake the photos, so lazy

>>10469511
Why even put it up for auction if you’re going to accept such a low bid? I wouldn’t pay the $500 but I would have paid over $100

>>10469515
Because this person was kind to me and I didn't mind it because it was them. Otherwise I would have just let it climb, yeah.

>>10469515

This was likely before the crazy person bid super high and they probably wanted to cash out sooner than waiting for the auction to end and guarantee a decent buyer getting ahold of it.

>>10469517

That's really sweet of you anon!

>>10469517
Stuff like this always makes me scared of bidding on an auction, and then having a seller randomly accept a offer from someone else in the DMs. I think once you set up an auction, you shouldn't go back on it. The amount of times this happens is uncomfortable.

I know a seller can ultimately do whatever they want. But I'm speaking from the POV of someone who is waiting to bid near the end of an auction, in order to not incite as much of a bidding war.

>>10469523


Everyone has a max amount they are comfortable paying for an item. Just bid your max at the start if you really want it. The seller isn't supposed to read your mind and tell if you were planning to bid later and especially when a listing has offers open it's really common for certain items for sellers to just accept offers privately.

>>10469517
It’s shitty to people who are willing to pay the most. You know, the point of an auction? I’d bid it up higher and leave bad feedback.

>>10469526
The seller should just put the price they’d accept as a BIN then and not get buyers hopes up. An auction is supposed to go to whoever pays the most. Not whoever messages the seller with an offer when there’s already bids

>>10469527

Everyone always says poorfags who can't afford items are the most salty and angry but the second you take away someone's ability to throw money at others to get what they want and you see that actually whiny people that desperate for some plastic are the biggest crybabies.

Like yeah it's AP and rare and shit but it's not like it will never appear again knowing many people are gearing up to sell their OTT sweet items they no longer wear or use because of the crazy market. Just be patient and don't take it out on someone for negotiating well.

>>10469533
Because it’s an auction, retard. The person paying the most should get it. Slap a BIN price on it if you’re not going to honor the auction. How is this so difficult for you idiots to understand?

>>10469532

Sellers are not required to put a BIN and if the seller posts or lurks here they would see how may gulls hate items with BIN or beg sellers not to put one so they have a chance to bid. Offers are allowed and anyone else could have made one. Being worried or bummed out is fine but don't get pissy with sellers because someone else got lucky/had their kindness to another person pay off.

>>10469497
No way. There have been so many uglier releases.

>>10469535
Kys fucking retard. It’s an auction. Do you not know what an auction is? If they aren’t going to honor the auction, just don’t do one.

>>10469526
Really though? There no "make me an offer" option on auctions because the whole point is that a buyer's "offer" is whatever they bid. A buyer also isn't supposed to read the seller's mind and guess if they might "end" the auction sooner because someone messaged them.

Placing a max bid at the start of an auction is pretty risky for a buyer. There's talk all over cgl of people purposefully bidding people up for fun. There's a lot less chance of that happening if you throw your money at a bid in the last 10 seconds than at the start with 7 days left.

Placing a true max bid at the beginning just guarantees that your max bid will be reached or exploited. In a perfect world, I think auctions should withdraw/hold money instantly from your PayPal to get rid of people who are just playing games with truly interested parties. If that was in place, I might be more likely to throw my money down all at once.

>>10469535
The whole point of people wanting an auction vs a BIN option is to prevent someone from buying it before the listings time ends. So underhanded people messaging sellers and making offers and not letting people’s money speak for who should get it is a valid complaint.

>>10469511
I would have stated that the item was reserved in the title, if I were you.

>>10469538

You can check yes on the make offer option when listing whether it's an auction or BIN I'm fairly sure. If this specific listing didn't have the make offer button listed that's unfortunate and the seller should try not to do this again but it seems like a spur of the moment thing for them that is unlikely to repeat.

If you aren't willing to pay your max bid (whether people are actually bidding up for fun or legitimately trying to get the item) then maybe you didn't want it as much as you think. Don't believe trolling gulls about falsely bidding up listings. It's harder than ever to make a LM throwaway with their new excessively invasive verification and no one is going to risk negative feedback or being reported over a joke bid.

The thought of having money taken from my account with no guarantee I'll get the item because I haven't really won yet sounds worse than the seller getting offers via DM desu.

>>10469533
>don't take it out on someone for negotiating well
Um... what? How is a buyer messaging a seller about an auction and tempting them to end the auction days earlier than normal "negotiating well"? I'm speaking in general here. That person isn't giving the seller a "good deal." They're eliminating competition by bypassing the end of the auction. If I won an auction where the item had already been sold to someone else for lower, I'd 100% leave bad feedback. The seller should be 100% sure they want to do an auction before starting one.

The truth is, you don't get to see what we would be willing to pay, exactly because auctions prematurely end. Want to know what we'd pay? Let the auction finish. Anyone paying attention to the max bids of buyers recently knows this, aka 2k for SC, aka $400 for a pony bag.

>>10469542

It seems like they got this offer after the auction had bids so they couldn't edit it, but they did comment that the listing was technically sold and someone continued to bid because they didn't read.

>>10469546

Negotiating well in the sense that whatever past kindness or positive interaction they shared with the seller is literally what made them willing to sell to this specific person. It's not an "in general" situation and the seller admitted that they sold it just to them and not anyone else and otherwise would have let the bidding end normally. Sometimes exceptions happen in life. Maybe negotiating was a poor term, they "got lucky", really.

>>10469549
More like they were an underhanded little cunt who knew they wouldn’t win a bidding war and fucked everyone else over

>>10469547
Ah, man, that sucks for OP.

>>10469551

They already got the brooch, don't let them take your peace of mind by letting them live rent free in your thoughts pissing you off about it anon.

>>10469545
Sorry, you're probably right about that option existing when a seller makes an auction listing. But I was looking at the current auctions I'm watching and none of them have that button, so that's why I said I'm nervous about that kind of behavior.

I'm willing to pay my max bid, but a lot of fake bidders will bid things up by the dollar. Losing a bid by just $5-$10 really sucks, so I watch that closely and I increase my max bid if it heads that way. I also don't want to play too heavily into inflating the market, even if I have money to throw around. So why not try to get an item at the best price by using the best bidding strategy? I've heard some people say they were thankful they had something like 5 LM accounts before the identity checks started. So those are the people I'm worried about bidding up an auction.

Your money would only be temporarily held. I know it sounds elitist, but if someone can't deal with several hundred dollars being "frozen" for 7 days, they might not want to participate in this fashion.

>>10469555

I'm just imagining a scenario where you want to bid on multiple items with vastly different ending times (a week, a month, 2 weeks, etc.) at once and you have to put away a few months' rent at once on hold just to bid at all with no guarantee. Just seems unnecessary/impractical as someone who may or may not bid on lots of things depending on what is available at any given time.

>>10469549
I'm uncomfortable with the situation in general where sellers make auctions but don't honor them. This happened recently with Dreamy Baby Room too. I understand how the brooch situation happened, but it's not an isolated case. I just know there's a chance it might happen to me, and others, and that sucks.

>>10469561

I totally get being nervous/bummed about it; just try not to stress too much and don't let your disappointment or anxiety venture into unnecessary rage territory. Lolita means a lot to some people and dream/rare items are just that, but in the end it's not going to kill you and things overall are pretty good if the worst thing that happens on a given day is not having to spend a ton of money on an item, y'know? Of course it's still frustrating but a little perspective may help calm your nerves.

>>10469558
>you have to put away a few months' rent at once on hold just to bid at all with no guarantee.

You really shouldn’t be buying lolita if you’re this poor

>>10469558
I still think holding the money would help eliminate fake/flakey buyers. It makes sure someone is actually invested, because of potential struggles like you brought up. Anyone bidding on something should already be of the mindset that the money they bid has been spent.

>>10469563

If it guaranteed anything sure I'd pay it all at once but it seems pointless to put money on hold for no guarantee.

I bid with the mindset that I want to win, sure, and as >>10469564 said the money is basically gone if I bid in that way but with OTT sweet dresses going for thousands; if I wanted to bid like 2K on 4 different dresses; that's $8000 already. You don't have to be poor to feel like it's pointless to put down 8K for items someone else may snatch up regardless.

Even if bidding commited you to anything/prevented fake bids, it doesn't stop people from making offers/swooping in and buying via DM.

>>10469562
Thanks anon. I appreciate your thoughts. I guess I'm very sensitive to this right now because of the auction I'm watching. It's a dream item, and I've already prepared myself for the ridiculous amount of money I'm going to drop. It would hurt a lot if someone swooped in and claimed it for hundreds less by doing something as effortless as messaging a seller and saying hi. I've been so paranoid I thought about messaging the seller myself and telling them "Please don't accept any outside offers. Please let this auction end normally. I'm going to bid at the end." But that could piss off the seller, because it's supposed to be common sense.

>>10469563

The issue is reducing flakey buying and selling practices or fake bidders, but even the suggested workaround may not help because some of the people wanting to bid up popular shit are claiming to they want to do it to make poorfags seethe, meaning they may be people with money just wanting to be a dick for the hell of it and if it's really a poor people thing to not want to spend that much at once there are still non poor trolls who can fuck things up in this scenario.

>>10469569

If anything I think the seller would only have reason to be mad if their thought process is "just bid already instead of trying to get it at a lower price/snipe it", but most sellers wouldn't care about that and just want to make the most money.

>>10469566
LM mods might take situations like this more seriously if a bidders' money was actually being held though. They'd probably have grounds to ban sellers that were repeat offenders of ditching auctions.

Also what you said doesn't make sense to me. You said you bid to win. So why would that "frozen" 8k bother you, if you anticipate paying it?

>>10469572

I generally dislike things that are unnecessary, and even if I bid with the intention of winning, I may not, and then my weird OCD brain goes "the effort of the bank holding that money was unnecessary".

Maybe it stems from my desire to not be wasteful of time/energy generally and I like apply it to other scenarios.

>>10469574
Hmm. I guess our brains are just different then. For me, having the money held is kind of like "put your money where your mouth is." It makes me feel more secure that others would also have to do the same.

>>10469523
I had this exact thing happen to me on LM and it's frustrating. Why allow bidding only to cancel them entirely and take another offer? I only use BIN for that reason

>>10469582
could sellers who do this be reported to mods?

>>10469508
Well fuck me I'm having a mandala effect. I thought the felt ice cream pin on the headbow came with the JSK on the neckline. I must have just seen it worn that way so many times... I even owned the print in three colors back in the day and I would have bet money on it. Sorry I was the one confused apparently!!

https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-milkyplanet-head-bow

Could LM just change their bidding system to be like yahoo!japan actions? Each time someone bids in the last 10 minutes, it auto extends the auction 10 minutes, to prevent sniping? Then sellers will also see more activity earlier and not be so keen to sell via DM while the auction has bids?

>>10469638

Sounds like a smart idea desu.

Glad to see people are trying to fuck the brooch seller over after the shit she pulled

Damn MP brooch is at $900. Wonder if the winner just bid so much to scare off/outbid the person who was still bidding.

>>10469511
Just ask a mod to delete it. I had a similar issue happen and was able to have it deleted as a result.

>>10469672

I'm surprised no one suggested this yet.

But idk sometimes mods may not do anything. I bid on something super cheap only to find the seller left bidding checked by mistake and only intended to sell via BIN cause they messaged me about it; I reccomended they ask mods to delete but I think they weren't able to cause the listing is still up.

>>10469679
If anon made the comment before any other bids were placed it'll probably work.

>>10469680

Definitely better for mods to delete. Maybe the seller can make a private or custom listing for the buyer if they want to keep a record of price history, feedback, etc.

>>10467323

If people really wanted to fuck over/undercut or affect pricing in the OTT sweet market, couldn't they and groups of people conspire to list a bunch of desirable itemals they have no intention of selling fairly cheap/at old prices, have friends purchase the listings to show items sold for that price range multiple times, and then just never go through with a sale/leave feedback?

Then it would in combo with the number of people willing to spend $1K+ on SC and MP being limited and eventually they'll all own it and few others will consider paying that much, people could theoretically fake sales to "correct"/revert the 2010s sweet market back to pre-boom levels.

Obviously this is a little shady/might affect chances for rerelease and not something to reccomend, but it is interesting speculating on how LM sales history can literally help define the value of some pieces.

>>10469687
Just stop, this clearly isn't the fashion for you.

>>10469706
Nayrt but why do you braindead morons regurgitate that same phrase over and over every time someone says something you don't like?
It's just annoying. If you have criticisms or something to say then say it instead of these vague clichéd phrases that mean nothing.

>>10469687
All it takes is for one person to reveal what they did for the entire plan to fail.
The lolita community is small enough that they'd be shunned for life.

>>10469687

(a) It's too much work unless you really have nothing better to do. The next auction will still get fought over anyway, you're stuck trying to spam LM repeatedly in order to get the prices down. Soon as you stop the real buyers will still bid the prices higher and higher anyway.

(b) It just takes one person to be slightly faster than your comrade (lots of snafu could happen, internet goes down the exact minute, LM glitches enough as it is, etc) and now you have to send some stranger a dress you didn't intend to sell, at a lower-than-market price. If you don't do it, best scenario is bad feedback. Worst case you end up with a stalker who decides their life goal is to ruin yours.

But I'll also point out. Some girls are probably selling because of the high prices.

So if the pricing does go down, all that happens is your supply dries up, instead of "cheap" dresses you simply end up with no dresses at all. They were expensive because demand outstrips supply to begin with, that's why buyers are throwing money at limited supply in order to own the dress.

>>10469707
The only braindead idiot here is you, the one trying to manipulate/control a free market where there is a high demand for a limited number of items that do not even have a close semblance of what AP is making anymore. The listings you are upset about are often bid up to high amounts or purchased instantly, which easily displays their current value.

Your little scheme wouldn't matter because, and I know this is hard for your embarrassingly low IQ to understand: people will spend how much they want on whatever they want, "market going rates" be damned. If it's worth it to them, they will buy it at whatever price they are comfortable with. A lot of lolitas make more than minimum wage.

Your newfaggotry is gravely showing. Sorry you were late to the game and can't get your DD for $100 anymore. Maybe try taobao or decora, your cheap mindset would fit right in.

>>10469721
Wow I'm not reading all of that because I'm not the one who was "scheming", idiot. Do you think everyone on here is the same person?

Here come your cotton dresses as time passes

>>10469721
I like how you use the most extreme example to make your point instead of realizing that there are quite a small number of people who are willing to pay 800+ for a dress, plenty of people would pay half of that but just because someone doesn't want to drop a grand on a dress doesn't mean that they're cheap.

Patiently waiting for the Toy Fantasy MTO to be ready. Anyone else? It was estimated for September, but I haven't heard anything yet.

>>10469772
Is it still too late to order?
Also do you know if it is going to be cotton?

Okay, guys, it isn’t just lightning, right?

>>10469775

There's a clear yellow cast over everything, and the blue bows are way, way, way oversaturated, so at minimum the colour is definitely off. Combination of lighting, but it could also be handphone algorithms pushing the wrong colours.

Unfortunately, this says nothing about the real state of the dress. It could be pristine, or it could be indeed faded due to bad laundry practices. Hard to tell unless the seller takes a photo in daylight rather than this abysmal indoor lighting.

Geez I posted the "scheme" as speculation and just thinking about random shit to make conversation and then went to bed before anyone replied. I didn't realize some butthurt anon was going to take it too seriously and get mad about even the mere thought of the dresses costing less and sperg out over it. And think everyone who finds their sperging retarded is the same person.

I swear every lolita thread is full of those "seethe harder poorfag" types projecting lately or something. Thanks to the anons who contributed to the conversation normally.

>>10469774
sick of newfags

>>10469821
>I swear every lolita thread is full of those "seethe harder poorfag" types projecting lately or something.

People are sick of poorfags complaining about the current state of the sweet market and trying to take it out on/“shame” those who can afford it.

>>10469831

I don't get that; I rarely see anyone shaming people who CAN afford it on cgl. Just people lamenting that they can't which is tiring but the aggressive "I'm gonna bid stuff up higher as a joke to piss off you poorfags even more lololol" posts lately are more exhausting to read and are more frequent than people really complaining about prices the last week or so.

Non poor people aren't being victimized on cgl, but anons seems to be responding as if they are when their angry ass responses are over the top and just ridiculously mad while claiming the poor people are the mad ones. Plus the threats to troll bid and jack prices up have anons with money trying to win auctions normally worried over auctions now.

>>10469836
I guess you were just conveniently not here for the months when the sweet prices were rising to this point and people were posting caps of lacemarket listings saying we need to make a list of anyone who bought over a certain amount and shame them, eh?

>>10469836
there were posts threatening to doxx people for spending higher amounts for a while after the $400 necklace

>>10469838

I remember people making fun of necklace-chan and anons larping as necklace-chan for repeatedly bringing themselves up/defending themselves which was dumb and poorfags complaining but no calls to publicly shame.

And people complaining about scalping and buying from scalpers but scalpers posting BIN only expensive listings is mentally different for me than people willingly bidding up a listing (and if you don't like scalpers you can just not buy. Just like people who can't afford a dress just shouldn't bid).

>>10469839

Okay I was here for the necklace girl and I don't remember any threats to doxx. Unless those posts were removed/the threads saged on days I didn't check cgl or something

>>10469841
Your memory sure is selective then. And short. This is a very recent example

>>10469839
>>10469838

Even if these things happened before, that was weeks or months ago at this point, right? This displaced anger must have been festering for a while if anons only now decide to aggressively post about seething poorfags now that they're all gone. Both sides of the coin are just as overdramatic and retarded.

>name and shame ur dumb for spending that much

And

>seethe harder poorfags hahaha ur so poor

Both sound equally retarded and like someone assmad about something and using this tired disagreement over prices as an excuse to vent.

>>10469845
Yeah totally. People laughing at poorfags reeeing is totally the same as this psychotic rage

>>10469845
One is shitposting that goes nowhere and the other is posting screencaps of people who probably aren't even posting here and even threatening to dox

>>10469843

Knowing someone's LM username they publicly bid under like everyone else does isn't the same as doxxing. Shame how? By not selling to them? Angry poor people who can't afford the current trends probably don't own the stuff they want anyway. That is far more of an empty threat and way less aggressive than posts threatening to toy with auctions which actually impact all anons, poor, rich, and in between and the whole market.

>>10469846

The rage of the people laughing at reeing poorfags is equally psychotic. Did you not see all the angy boi posts reeing about poorfags any time someone says anything about anything in the price check threads?

>>10469848
There have already been some people making up rumors about people on lacemarket because of this. It is causing actual damage.

>ecksdee le poorfegs

Is not

>>10469846

C'mon anon this poster is clearly 12 and irrelevant; it literally reads as satire lol

>>10469851
Last time I checked they weren’t threatening to go around making a list of people to “out” or “shame” or stalking people’s instagrams

>>10469852

Actually fake bidding on auctions IS causing actual damage if people are doing it, though it's less easy to prove. What rumors besides people who lost an auction being mad someone didn't have any sweet purchases in their feedback that one time? I'm not asking this rhetorically, I'm genuinely curious.

>>10469853
I have actually seen some people I follow on Instagram say basically the same thing but with nicer phrasing. That the people paying x amount need to be stopped/canceled

>>10469856
If I post about it I’ll probably get banned, but it’s on the farm. Go check it out.

>>10469854

I guess I just see that as reposting shit the people who bought it already posted about (if that post was even legit and not just someone mocking the whiny people), like how is sharing that someone publicly posted about purchasing lolita going to harm them in any way? It's creepy but so is the desire to fuck over everyone wanting to bid on popular items by inflating or toying with the market unnecessarily and that impacts all of us.

>>10469852
>>10469856
you guys know shill bidding and other kinds of fake bidding are all illegal on big auction sites.

>>10469860
As someone who bids in popular listings, idgaf. Have more money ready and it won’t be an issue

>>10469861
>illegal

Kek. I have seen like four posts in one thread who were probably LARPing talking about this. While I have seen months of people talking about shaming people for buying over whatever price. I’ve even seen it on people’s insta stories. Keep defending this weird stalkery behavior from poorfags

>>10469859
Thanks, I'll take a look.

>>10469857
I see like one of those or so every few weeks and they're dumb of course. Most of those posts I see are just people commenting on scalper BIN price listings or showing the bid amounts and mentioning how much they paid for their same item in better condition for comparison. Maybe I follow less angry or spergy lolitas lol

And again, I don't think one is worse than the other. Both are threatening to do weird pointless stuff in the name of attempting to punish whoever they don't like and it's childish; the angry posts about poorfags are just the most dominant on the board currently and are often misfires directed at people who are clearly not the ones trying to doxx anyone and just are expressing their own thoughts or opinions pretty reasonably.

>>10469865
I think you’re failing to take into account that calling someone a poorfag for no real reason has existed on this board for years and is on par with calling someone a fatty-chan because they said something hinting that they don’t have a 55cm waist

>>10469863
so you're cool with me inflating prices to $1000+ more than they're worth? cool will keep that in mind for the next big release.

>>10469866

Fair point; I'll just mentally file "rich"-chan posters in the same place as ana-chan posters and not take them seriously.

>>10469867
Please go ahead and try. Itll be easy to find out who’s doing it since you can check bid history on items. I’m obviously talking about the people who bid things up less than that

>>10469774
The MTO was in January, Kyoto store only. It is supposed to be cotton.

Final totals for Toy Fantasy jewelry on LM:

Elephant Necklace: $184 (different seller from the recent jewelry)
Lyrical Necklace: $251
Lyrical Bubbles Ring: $126

I honestly thought they'd go higher. I'm... oddly disappointed? But not really I guess.

>>10469919
max bid for the necklace was $426, but I guess they were the only one who wanted it that much

>>10469919
Now if people would only post toy fantasy dresses that aren't full of nasty stains

>>10469921
I was sitting watching the two lyrical auctions because I was curious. I thought they would explode at the end. I am surprised the ring got past $100 though.

>>10469922
I'm debating selling mine. I'm the anon that ordered a full set of each Toy Fantasy JSK. I have the original sax, pink, and white, with headbows.

I was going to see what prices are like after the MTO is delivered. I also wasn't going to sell my originals if the MTO was too different though. I thought comparing them would be fun.

>>10469928
I know you'll probably want to do an auction but HMU if you want to sell direct. I'm looking for a set in pink or white.

>>10469941
I'll keep you in mind, anon! No promises though because I tend to be sentimental.

I'm sure you might have other chances when people get their MTOs. Maybe it will be like Toy Doll Box where there's just dozens of listing now at retail price.

>>10469942
Maybe. Wasn't that reservation Japan-only though? I know I was planning on getting it if it came to AP USA (after getting burned on CTP and other selling on AP USA after the japan-only reservation) but I never saw it. I may have just missed it though :P

>>10469942

Since the MTO was Kyoto only it is more likely to see a few fril scalpers listing them and some Asian scalpers on LM but not as many.

>>10469863
the real lesson is that insta stories are trash. i stopped looking at them and only look at coord posts now. i don't miss stories at all.

>>10469757
Considering you are defending one of the stupidest ideas on the history of this board and you are clearly ESL, it's obvious it is you, "nayrt."

>>10469945
Yeah, it was Kyoto only, but I'm not sure how generous the order limit was. Toy Fantasy is my favorite print, so I hope you're able to get it eventually!

>>10469964

You must be illiterate or just not have read the later replies from the "schemer" who had no intention of going through with the idea and was just making conversation.

>>10469972

I hope a ton of scalpers got lots of orders in every colorway desu...a slight markup comparable to the USA price had it come here is better than bid wars and the increasingly common secret DM sales undercutting said bid wars on LM by a longshot.

>>10469973
Sure, Jan.

Backpeddling with "Oh I was completely asleep so other anon was totally not me" and "I was just making conversation but fuck everyone who doesn't agree with me" makes it check out. You are so obvious.

As said, this is not the fashion for you. Maybe try decora or menhera (probably a better fit), if you can even afford those.

>>10469974
Same here. I'll gladly pay $100 above retail to not buy some crusty stained one. Especially when this is a print popular with ageplayers

>>10469976

Ayrt here; I am not even the person your reply beforehand was directed toward.

Just admit you're retarded and can't tell people apart. This board isn't for you if you think everyone is the same person.

>>10469976
Holy shit how are you this autistic? You're losing your mind because someone said what if you did something in theory as though they admitted to actually doing it.
FWIW I have had the same thought as anon about manipulating the lolita market literally just because I think it's a badass thing to do. But I don't have any interest in actually doing it right now.

>>10469980

Agreed. Plus it just puts more pieces we all like in circulation. Given the current western secondhand market and the lack of availability of some releases outside Japan, fril scalpers are literally doing us a favor at this point.

And AP for choosing MTOs.

>>10469976

Ohhh you're that stupid anon from a couple months ago that thinks decora is significantly cheaper than lolita.


See how easy it is to assume you're someone else?

>>10469983

Idk if it's badass but it would be kind of some stupid fun lolita spy operation or something. I can almost imagine someone writing a comic or story about oldfag lolitas banding together to keep lolita affordable for the younger generations or randomly listing stuff they don't want anymore for low prices and actually selling it normally. Either way it would be a lot of work like anons above said but kind of cool to theorize about.

>>10469989
I've offered cheap direct sales for covered pieces to friends and kind people who have bought from me before. Would never do it for a stranger gull though.

>>10469981
>>10469983
No one cares about your opinion, poorfags.

>>10469986
Sorry you're slow and/or ESL, it was a recommendation because their personalities would fit said tacky fashion more appropriately.

>>10469992
*coveted

>>10469989
I'm into economics so I like the idea of manipulating a market on a small scale. Like a frilly George Soros.
Maybe I could even make it profitable and then funnel that money into operations to fund and empower ita groups, triggering a flood of itas into the main lolita groups and destabilizing the fashion as we know it.

>>10469993

Lolita can be and is just as tacky as decora senpai. OTT sweet is hella tacky but adorable. You're just a larper who doesn't know shit.

>>10469996
You sound retarded with grandiose delusions

>>10469996
Damn go outside for once

>>10470006
>>10470007

They just sound like they're being silly and letting their imagination run wild. Kind of amusing.

>>10469638
I’d love that!

>>10470012
yeah, but there's clever silly and there's dumb silly, and this is the latter

>>10469851
laughing at poor people is a past time sport anon

>>10470016

There's laughing and then there's letting them live rent free in your mind until you get irrationally angry.

>>10470019
I really doubt rich people are getting irrationally angry over a bunch of poor nobodies. The poorfags on the other hand need to settle down and learn their place

>>10470015
Lol calm down

>>10470024
I sure hope not. Imagine having financial security and enough leftover to wear expensive niche Japanese fashion and letting themselves be assblasted about poor people complaining.

>>10470027
I have yet to meet a rich person actually upset about poorfags. On the other hand, I’ve met plenty that laugh at them

>>10470028

Most women I know typically pity people who have less money, rich/middle class ones. The poorest ones are the ones that are weirdly uppity despite not having much themselves. I guess it all depends on who you know.

>>10470024
Just kind of inserting myself into this discussion, but what makes someone a poorfag anyways?

I laugh at people who refuse to spend more than $100 on a dream dress because that's obviously pathetic, but I understand when someone doesn't want to drop $1-2k at once. I'm genuinely curious as to what people actually accuse as being poor, or if it's just used against anyone who won't suck it up and pay.

>>10470033
I think it used to be an insult towards people wanting items way below their going rate. But it somehow it got warped into something like "What, you don't have 1k ready to spend on your dream dress? How dare you post it in the DD thread!"

>>10470033
Poorfag is a state of mind.

Are you actually poor but save up your money to get what you want and not demand things be handed to you? You’re not a poorfag

Are you an entitled little shit whining about the current state of the market and crying about how other people spend their money? You are a poorfag

>>10470040
This.

>>10470019
>>10470027
Well you'll never know what it's like to not be a poorfag, so you should probably stop wasting your time imagining what it's like having money.

>>10470028
We all laugh at them, both directly and inwardly. The best kind of mental gymnastics come from poorfags.

>>10469841
no one made fun of necklace-chan because she overspent on a necklace

necklace-chan was made fun of because she wouldn't shut the fuck up about it, and brought it up in multiple threads when no one even asked

>>10470033
You seem incredibly new asking this, but >>10470040 is correct.

Since we are spoonfeeding you already, poorfags are also super fixated on prices and costs in an emotional way. Normal people are much more cut and dry about their spending and usually only get emotional (in a positive way) about prices if they snag a good deal for something they wanted. It's something you notice the longer you are in the fashion.

Another indicator to easily spot a poorfag: When talking about a dress they want, especially a dd, they always weave in comments or opinions about the price, where as a normal lolita just talks about how much they love the piece and how hard it is to find/they are looking for it. Normal Lolita could not want to spend over a certain amount, but since they are not a poorfag they know to keep their opinions about the cost to themselves instead of being assblasted like poorfags are about anything they want.

Poorfags also typically have a lot to say about the costs of other things, like meet expenses, transportation, other costs of nonessential goods, rent/house costs, etc. It's essentially a level of behavioral social class. I know plenty of lolitas who don't make a lot but don't act like poorfags, they work hard and save up and keep their feelings about prices to themselves. I also know lolitas with huge wardrobes who act exactly the same as entitled poorfags who just stumbled across lolita on facebook. You can't buy class, after all.

>>10470038
You seem both new and like a poorfag.

Damn I hope Maki, Asuka, and the other burando designers see what is happening to us as they continue to release shittier and shittier prints. We're eating each other alive out here

>>10470058
Not new, just tired of the word being thrown around at literally everyone. I agree with your explanation, I just think it's used even more loosely than that.

>>10470057
I always thought it was funny that people got butthurt when $200-necklace-chan showed up, whether or not it was someone pretending to be them. I think about them, because now we're all spending $200 on AP jewelry and it's normal.

>>10470033
Anons would call you poorfag when you don’t spend $400+ on shipping, it’s the internet don’t take it too seriously

>>10470033
don't feel bad, literally everyone here is children
it's real easy to not know what money is worth if you're spending your parents'

After hating on AP poly and sack OPs for a couple of years I've had a change of heart in the past month. I now love poly and sack OPs. I want to live in sack OPs. I want to die in sack OPs.

>>10470150
What made you change your mind about the poly?
Personally, I don't want my dresses to be faded as fuck after 5 years of owning them.

>>10470089
I know actual wealthy people who would never drop 1k on a dress. People here just like to flex.

>>10470151
yeah im tired of cotton wrinkling and fading and my beautiful glitter coming off :(

>>10469772
Also waiting with no updates. I hope it’s ready soon, I can’t wait to have it in my wardrobe.

>>10469877
It wasn't a Kyoto exclusive - Shinjuku had it too

Was anyone able to purchase one of the Nagoya store reopening dresses? My SS said that the Melty Ribbon Chocolate was onesize so I'm wondering what the measurement was like or if there other dresses remade had measurements different to the original

>>10470205
There was only one size. Mine doesn't have an M or L tag sewn onto it like the older release

>>10469775
i own the jsk version of this and the print looks more vibrant than this for sure, but its weird how overly blue those bows are

>>10470210
Ok well I'm glad that was accurate. Do you own any other MRC - if so - does the color look the same, does it look like a size M etc? I'm burning up waiting for mine to come in the mail

>>10470235
I don't have the original to compare it to. Based off the pictures on lolibrary mine has a slight color deviation but it could be my monitor. Sorry anon

>>10469638
while it curbs sniping, it also lets bid wars go out of control. its a double edged sword

>>10469638
I would hate it. Imagine how much more time would be wasted.

>>10469638
Have to agree with >>10470362. Would really put me off taking part in LM auctions full stop because it just takes so much time.

Some more bunny ears are being released, but this time in the form of hairclips

>>10470370

Are these new? If so, does anyone think they'll be accompanied by wristcuffs?

>>10470370
jfc people the ears are sewn out of literal fleece just diy it

>>10470417
Seriously these ears were 1.99 on eBay like 10 years ago

>>10470417

I just wanna know what other acessories or items will be released with these. Not gonna spend upwards of 30 bucks on these plus shipping unless I can get a cute mini haul with it. If this and the masks are it it's not worth the effort.

>>10470370
These are so cute. I’m going to try and get several pairs

>>10470431

There's only like 3 colorways from the looks of it; are you planning to buy multiples?

>>10470442
Are you ESL?

>>10470453

No, where I come from several usually implies more than 3, while "a few" usually implies around 3. I was just curious because sometimes people do buy multiples of acessories in case they wear out or anything. Usually socks though.

>>10470458
Nobody cares about your personal experience differing from the at large accepted definitions of words

>>10470459

All I did was ask a question and then got another question in response so I answered. No need to be pissy. And like I said some people buy multiples of acessories and several by definition can still mean more than 3.

>>10470462
Learn English, retard

>>10470463

Sure, when you learn to stop being an autist.

>>10470370
Cute I guess but the masks don’t really register as lyrical bunny to me on their own.

>>10470470

They seem like the type of thing you'd have to wear with the ears in a coord to get the full effect. Maybe the mask not looking like Lyrical Bunny on its own is AP's way of giving you the razor cheap so you buy the blades at a markup.

>>10470466
The only autist here is you

>>10470370
These are sorta cute but not worth it. The ears are so small, they'd look super weird on anyone's head.

>>10470462
you're a fucking idiot.

>>10470478
Considering the kind of accessory this is it’s probably meant to be worn with other hair accessories and not as a stand alone accessory on the head.

>>10470483
Yeah I was even imagining the small ears with other accessories, but it still looks bad in my head. Mini animal ears just seem awkward. I would rather have them as a brooch or something.

>>10470210
Any chance of you checking the measurements on the new one?

>>10470566
Same as the original M. The colors are all off and not as nice as the original release.

>>10469032
You literally can’t talk. CLAM has a dominatrix as a mod and the only reason she isn’t called out on it is because she’s curvy and pretty.

>>10470683
Please post pictures if so.

>>10470706
Hmm I know who you mean but you see she’s actually a nice, adult person? Unlike the collection of bitchy mean-girl wannabes that make up the London comm

>>10469996
This is fucking hilarious and I'm so sorry the other anons did not get it

I wonder what would happen to lolita market when fashion stops being a thing. I think it’s going to happen eventually. Not like it disappears completely but if there are just a few fashion enthusiasts instead of comms we used to know.

>>10471111
I think it's really hard to tell. I've always imagined the downfall starting with ClosetChild closing, because of either lack of interest, operating costs, or the owner moving on. (Honestly I've been scared this would happen during the pandemic but CC is making a killing right now) Then places like WunderWelt, etc that serve a large international customer base would close. I could see competition for things getting really fierce after that, then slowly dying as people grow disinterested the harder it gets to buy things. Maybe at the end there will be a few diehards selling 2010 AP Sweet for 5k or something. I think we have some decades to go though.

>>10471135
How do you know CC is making a killing?

>>10471141
I guess I have no proof, but they are uploading a lot lately and every time it's a bloodbath of instant sales. They seem to be getting more popular, rather than less. It really picked up in April/May.

>>10471135
I always wonder how they manage to get so much stock in.
I mean - lolita is a niche fashion as it is, & with not much effort you can sell most pieces yourself. Are there really that many girls in Japan who would rather just hand their stuff to CC?

Y‘all are getting another chance at this.

Also, Petit Heart with new colors and such.

>>10471141
Their website is literally crashing daily at update time.

>>10471164
Thanks I hate it

>>10471166
How tf do people know the update times? Stuff always seems to be gone by the time I get the update emails

>>10471164
When does it release, and online store? I’m so tired of trying but I really want to for this again.

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>>10470015
every time someone makes a harmless joke (see: grandma camouflage thread) some joyless autists pitch a fit about what they perceive as self-absorption

>>10471186
it was bad get over it

>>10471186

Some gulls just take themselves too seriously anon, don't let it get to you. I think silly jokes are fun and some of the few positive interactions we get on cgl.

>>10471146
Is that why there isn't as much stuff being put up on fril and mercari anymore? (People just giving it to CC instead?) The sudden surge of items in March had died down around that time.

>>10471165
Why does AP re-release the most boring series

>>10471210
Because they‘ve always sold out so far.

>>10471179
Idk about in-store availability, but this will be put in the online store.

>>10471210
because Petit Heart sold extremely well everywhere, of course they'd re-release it

>>10471154
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I think you have to factor in that every city CC is in also has several different brand stores. There's probably a lot of lolitas living in that area to support buying new brand from so many stores. Probably a small percentage can't be arsed to deal with selling, it's just that their small percentage turns out to be a lot more girls than western lolitas combined.

But also, we're still kind of dealing with a covid pandemic worldwide, including Japan, so it's possible some girls would rather not deal with going to the post office or whatever is needed to ship things.

>>10471179
are they doing all the colors? couldnt find more info on it

Has anyone else basically turned into an AP collector recently? I don't really wear anything anymore because there's nowhere to go and I have no energy. Then the market going up in price has made me reluctant to take the tags off of any older items. I know people kind of hate collectors, but I'm just lying in wait until I have a reason to wear it all again. I'm just afraid when I do, I'll be even more paranoid about damaging what I have.

>>10471260
I've purchased about 10 new dresses in quarantine and haven't worn any of them because I don't go anywhere or do anything and it seems like a waste to spend an hour dressing up only to sit on the computer and possibly dirty/damage it

>>10471135
I feel like CC might close one of their 3 locations in Tokyo.

>>10471154
CC has a big warehouse full of stock. Now they’re uploading everything that goes in store, whereas before the online selection was a lot more limited. They also within the last couple years started taking non-lolita stuff like Pink House, Axes Femme, Ank Rouge, etc.

>>10471271
ayrt Actually, I remember having the thought that I think CC will eventually go purely online (before they would permanently close), and I hope they do. I have FOMO about in-store items I know I've missed out on.

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>>10471095
Aw, thanks Anon.

>>10471154
Selling to CC gets you less money, but it guarantees you money up front. Selling on the secondhand market gets you more money, but the wait can range from days to months. CC gives you a figure they're willing to buy at in minutes.

>>10469561
It's because people don't stop doing it. I've had many auctions and around 5 people message me every time and asking to buy it instead of an auction. Usually just a few dollars over start-bid or even lower than that. It's so annoying.