/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10510484
Fuck you too man.

That's what you get for wanting to purchase that juvenile shit without having any semblance of a plan on how to dress it in a respectable way. Wouldn't it be easier if you just had better taste? And some patience maybe? Wow, imagine if you had bought clothes that brought you joy and didn't overspend "a copious amount of money" at once, instead spreading it out over years as your tastes develop?

But who am I? One of the idiots trying to manage your dressing habits, am I right? Yeah, fuck you too.

>>10510490
No, fuck you

>>10510494
Fuck (you)

>>10510484
me too. lolita was a mistake.

>>10510484
I wish you would regret making your own thread and use the feels thread for your nonsense.

Just learn how to dress yourself retard

>>10510509
Fuck you too

can i have your wardrobe if you dont like it

I'll take what you don't want OP. Getting into lolita has been the best thing for me.
>I've learned how to sew and repair clothes
>Learned how to actually style my hair
>Enjoying skincare and exercise
>Having fun looking pretty and cute for myself
>even my normal wardrobe has gotten better
>Inspired to bake so I can host tea parties
It's a nice sense of pride I found in myself that I can happily take into old age.

That's what you get for buying Bodyline

I felt this to a degree because I got into lolita right before the pandemic, in January. I couldn't really use my new clothes to go anywhere, so I regretted spending this much money (but was still very happy about owning the dresses I bought with it).
Well I had to go run errands in the city last week, and dressed up for it. No regrets anymore. I felt amazing, and looked so cute.

In conclusion: 2020 is a shit year to get into a streetfashion, but it'll be worth the wait. In the meantime, do some research and gather coord inspiration?

>>10510546
Idk why more people don't wear lolita at home. I put on full OTT sweet coords just to sit in my bedroom on the weekend and drink tea, cuddle my kumyas/stuffed animals, and watch anime.

Nah I've had so much happiness since wearing lolita.
Maybe because I dont wear pastel sweet and lean towards a mature sweet or country, I dont look like what Im wearing is too juvenile.
Also I love all my lolita friends. Every single one of you sparks joy.

>>10510550
That sounds like a massively uncomfortable way to chill at home. I have lolita roomwear for that sort of thing

>>10510552
I have casual stuff too but if I really wanna wear OTT sweet in my apartment I will. What is uncomfortable about chilling at home in cute clothes? Lolita clothing has never been uncomfortable for me as long as the items fit, and despite being a messy person I have never irreparably stained my brand cooking and eating in it.

>>10510484
lolitas on suicidewatch, based

>>10510542
I unironically like bodyline and don’t care how ita I look in them, I enjoy their cheapness and tackyness

>>10510558
My clothes aren't tight, I've got an 80cm bust and a 58 cm waist so that's not the issue. I just feel bulky af in lolita. Its fine when I'm out because if anything it creates personal space, but at home I just feel huge.

Then again I'm neurotic and spend most of my time at home cleaning and picking up and sometimes cooking/baking. Wouldn't be that bad if I could sit my ass down for more than 5 minutes.

>>10510595
Idk what to tell you then. I don't have that problem and removing my petti if I feel a little too poofy or warm or whatever solves any comfort issues I have.

>>10510558
I feel like it's a different story if you have pets. I don't want to worry about having to clean up after them in long blouse sleeves or something.

>>10510609
Do you not roll up your sleeves? Do you get pet shit and vomit (I'm thinking dog here but still) on yourself cleaning up in long sleeved normie sweatshirts?

>>10510484
This is probably a troll, but I'm gonna reply anyway.
Assuming you're not a troll, you're the kind of clout chasing lolita who gets mad and quits when you don't get the attention you want.
Yes, lolita I'd an expensive hobby/fashion.
Yes, people can be rude and tell you what to wear.
But you obviously haven't gone out and made use of your coords. It's a completely different experience. I hope one day you get to attend a tea party.

Try enjoying the fashion more as a passion, rather than getting pissed because you didn't get over 30 likes on CoF.

>>10510622
It’s fucking exhausting experience. Many layers turn heavy as you walk around, you gotta watch the petty around many things, flashy clothes gives emotional fatigue because it draws your own attention constantly. I come home tired while wearing casual clothes, where am I supposed to get energy for wearing something so effort costing. And what for should I do that at the end of the day? Lolita is a static fashion, it’s only good for posing. Walking in petti makes you look like a fucking duck. People aren’t looking lively or energetic in lolita, they rather look like a mannequins showcasing the stuff that is supposed to cover their bodies up to the point it’s completely different character (I mean wigs, false lashes, makeup, etc)

>>10510484
Is OP the little sister in BSOLF who has the striped sock fetish and thinks everyone giving her concrit is a booly?

>>10510650
kek imagine

>>10510643
You just sound like someone who is depressed and lives in pajamas all day

a mistake people make is assuming that they are investing in an item and that because it is a niche fashion that the value of the item will remain. it's kinda like collecting Barbies. you don't collect them to make an investment, you get them because you like them.

>>10510484
Why did you even start in the first place?

>>10510643
sounds like lifestyle lolita isnt for you. wearing all the layers and cute clothes gives me the desire to get up and clean and cook and do shit. idk why you would get into such a decadent fashion if you don't enjoy wearing it?

>>10510484
sell your shit on LM for cheap then please and thanks

>>10510643
You don't need to wear wigs and false lashes with lolita, you don't need an enormous petticoat either. Everyone forgets that casual lolita and old school are still a thing. You don't need to be OTT dressed to the nines constantly, just get simpler clothes.

>>10510484
That's a sad story I guess. I love my lolita wardrobe even though its small since I buy on a budget. I used to be obese and lost over 100 lbs so I could wear cute clothes, and it gives me lots of confidence, plus it has made me way better at budgeting money so I can afford things I want AND need. I regret nothing!

>>10510599
Yeah I can't stand the way lolita looks pettiless. Therefore, cute roomwear is a must for me.

>>10510643
Hard disagree anon. I find that wearing lolita out and about is energizing and exhilarating. No emotional fatigue here.

Maybe you're agoraphobic or have really bad social anxiety, if people looking at you makes you feel emotionally fatigued. That sounds like how I felt when I was in the throes of my agoraphobia and would get panic attacks when my mom insisted I ride through a drive through with her, and I'd hide my face like some sort of hostage. Meds helped immensely. Sucks that I just got a handle on the whole agoraphobia thing and then covid happens 3 months later.

>>10510643
If you feel like your coords are static, they're probably not fitting you properly. I've ran and jumped around in full coords. But overall, it doesn't sound like a fashion for you. Why did you want to get into it in the first place?

>>10510490
fpbp

>>10510643
I totally get you anon and I think it's valid, it can be more challenging as an introvert that doesn't feed off attention. Being around other lolitas in public can be especially draining if someone in the group looks hideous cause it's not someone I would ever involve myself with and here they are reflecting poorly on the rest of us. People are sneaking pics or openly questioning the lolita in sweet, it all makes it difficult to relax unless it's in a more private setting.

>>10510656
Yes, I wish I knew that for sure

>>10510693
You fuck off

I kinda didn’t realized that lolita fashion looks and appears feminine. I don’t want to look feminine, the fuck. Not only that I’m looked down for being so weirdly dressed, but also because it’s girls dress. Ya be like “who cares what people think” but actually people do care about others opinions because that’s how society functions. You can’t fucking deny the dynamics that has been creating evolutionary just because you found a bunch of dumbasses to support you aka sub cultural society. Lolita looks and feels ridiculous, it does not represent you as a trustworthy society member.

>>10510793
>Lolita looks and feels ridiculous

That's because you're an ita.

>>10510793
>I kinda didn’t realized that lolita fashion looks and appears feminine
Are you retarded?

>>10510798
NTA, but no, it looks ridiculous. Subjectively liking the fashion is the only reason to wear it.

>>10510616
Nayrt but i don’t wear long sleeves around my apartment when i’m staying at home and wearing lolita because most of my sleeved blouses don’t roll up easily and i have less range of motion because i have broader shoulders. even if i had the choice to though i wouldn’t want to risk my sleeves near dish water or other cleaning chemicals. i’ve accidentally bleached the tips of my sleeves that way

>>10510692
Nayrt but even before getting into lolita I had separate going out clothes and roomwear. I don’t like wearing the same clothes at home as when I’m out, for me it has nothing to do with physical comfort. I have lolita roomwear, but I wouldn’t wear lolita around the house the same way I wouldn’t wear jeans around the house.

OP’s here, let’s set aside the possibility of ruining the garment that costed me like hundreds of dollars. I see no point in wearing lolita at home, because room clothes for me is something comfy I don’t care about or pay attention to. Why would I wear lolita if I won’t even care about it?

if it hadn't been for egl, I wouldn't have outgrown my trainwreck teenage fashion mess that was myself. The rabbit hole of egl led to burando, which led to sewing, led to patterns, led to materials, led to fashion history, led to appreciating style and quality, led to appreciating good taste, led to high fashion paris burando, which led back down to well made clothing at reasonable prices in timeless styles.

Over a period of time this community made me the most fashionable person I know and thats not a brag it just something nice after moving past age 30.

>>10510838
I guess I can say it safely that lolita has fucked up my fashion sense. It's too easy, you can get away with nobrainer combos using the colors from the main piece. You always use one silhouette, it's always the same aesthetic, you don't learn mixing things up.

>>10510801
Why would you get into the fashion if you dislike it???

>>10510844
For me the only "negative" is I have too many clothes in general, and it only made me more matchy matchy with my normie wear

>>10510816
There are workarounds for this like short sleeves. Gloves while cleaning, etc. But the real issue is you are wearing stuff that doesn't fit. Limited range of motion due to broad shoulders only exists if your blouses are too tight. Blouses typically have buttons at the bottom cuffs if long sleeved, and you can unbutton that to roll them up.

Nothing is wrong with preferring to wear casual clothes at home but going through day to day life wearing lolita is not impossible if you have clothes that fit comfortably and aren't made from cheap or fragile material.

>>10510821
How does wearing lolita clothes mean you don't care about them? You don't have to make an event out of wearing something cute.

>>10510857
Nta, but I'm also not the type to get dressed up unless I'm leaving my house at least. In non covid times I generally wear lolita when I'm going shopping, but don't really need to try on things, or out with a friend.
If I'm at home I'm either gaming or half asleep. Why would I be in anything but pajamas until I plan to leave or see someone?

>>10510793
You don't know how alternative fashion works, do you? Of course you're going to stick out. You wear it because YOU like it. If you don't like it, don't wear it. It's that simple.
>You cant deny social dynamics, not a trust worthy member of society
Lol, what. You know that plenty of lolitas go to work in this fashion right? And you know that there's a time and place to wear it, right? If you work in construction or business, of course you're not going to wear lolita. If you work at a job with lax dress code, no one cares what you wear because others are dressed in their own non-conforming ways. One of my site directors wore MLP shit and we've had plenty of goth employees. If you're going out to a museum, park, cafe, groceries, whatever then it really doesn't matter what other people think at all.

>>10510856
You didn’t read anything i said. I said i don’t wear long sleeves with lolita to clean in anon, i didn’t say i didn’t wear lolita around my house at all.

>>10510953
I presumed you were the same anon who said they found lolita uncomfortable to wear at home and doesn't. It's hard to tell in this thread. I was just addressing that concept generally and pointing out that it isn't impossible to wear it around the home.

>>10510551
Love you too <3

>>10510793
Yes, it looks ridiculous to most people, I don’t care, no one should care.

>>10510951
this. i fucking hate thin skinned girls who border on being normie just because they want to look like some disney taylor swift version of little women or some shit and then realizing people will see them. you know what i mean.

>>10510844
I started out like that in the beginning, but before I was a Hot Topic mess with no sense of cohesion. Lazy coords is learning to crawl before you can walk, and eventually when you get the matchy-matchy rules down you learn to experiment and break them successfully.

>>10510484
Lol I know this feeling. I used to blame it
on lolita but it was actually my self hate that made me feel so self conscious. I took a couple years off and came back with better mental health and no longer a poor fag, I feel great in my frills now

> anon: I regret getting into lolita fashion for how toxic it is
> other anons: no, you can’t hate it because I don’t , and by the way, that’s how I better than you

I mean this fucking crap any time. You must be kidding me saying I have to pay money to deal with your bullshit.

>>10511241
Or maybe they should lighten up and just wear the clothes if they actually like them and not worry about what a bunch of idiots on the internet have to say. I doubt OP was really that interested to begin with if they're so easily influenced by an online community and maybe they should figure out what exactly they were trying to get out of wearing lolita. Confidence? Attention? Friends? Validation?

>>10510484
>sing habits + a chunk of clothes that look ridiculously juvenile on any adult person, and you don't even start with your "you can wear what you want" bullshit, I had it enough. My stuff is not really hyped besides some pieces, so I'm barely get my money back.
>You motherfuckers told me "treat yoself" and I was stupid enough to actually listen to you. Fuck you all!
calm down there tokimeki bunny

>>10511596
kek

>>10511596
I don’t know drama about them, I’m not that involved in community stuff.

>>10511579
Anon, lolita community is indeed toxic, you have noticed that yourself. Listen to why some people get to quit or downsize their presence. It’s just kinda normalized to be shit.

>>10511579
> it takes nearly half of the day to invent a gaslighting reply
/cgl/ is getting slow these days

Wait do some of you think OP is NOT a troll larper? I thought we were just playing along.

>>10510995
No anon i’m the anon who said i do wear lolita at home i just stray away from long sleeves if i’m cleaning because it can cause issues. A lot of my blouses fit me and are baggy, but the shoulders tend to be a little taut since i have linebacker arms, this particularly makes my long sleeve ones harder to clean in. Many of my long sleeve blouses are not shirred so movement is much more limited, vs short sleeve that allows my arms to move more

>>10511803
nayrt but if you do not have a reasonably full range of motion in a clothing item, it doesn't fit and needs at least some minor alteration

>>10511837
Just to add, that doesn't mean you are fat or anything. Off the rack clothes will not fit most people's measurements in a way that is perfect everywhere, some parts will always be too big while others too tight depending on your shape and height, etc. so getting stuff tailored is actually very helpful, even though most lolitas will never do that because "muh market resale value"

>>10511838
>>10511837
Like goth shit?
Like vampires?
Like hiphop/rap
Then listen to this amazing mixtape made by ELEVEN it is fire as fuck if you don't your mother will die in her sleep tonight thanks!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLi-nstDpMFxcNWB59MsvAQrNSZVTaiR9_

Headline: Suburban girl realizes she can't just buy her way to popularity.

I don't regret joining this fashion at all. I have sex with my boyfriend while wearing lolita everyday. Sex is a beautiful and emotional bond like nothing else. I even wear my cum stained dresses out wherever I go, and I like to lick and sniff the cum to be reminded of the most beautiful form of love in existence, which is sex. I love sex. I sex love. Get it? Because sex is love.

>>10510484
poor bait but I think it's hilarious you accidentally admitted to having ita taste

Okay, I don't want to mess with people being all excited in AP thread, but it makes me feel depressed.

>>10516503
Why?

>>10516518
I can't explain. I feel this sorta obligation to participate in new MTOs because that's what people do, but at the same time I can stop feeling ridiculous about wearing lolita. I'm thankful to >>10510801 because I feel like crazy one in this community for feeling like that, but they sorta confirmed I'm not.
I feel this sorta pressure for buying lolita because it's gonna be harder later. I wish I found a way for not feeling stupid in this fashion.

>>10510484
The good news is that Lolita has a much higher resale value than most other hobbies, and hasn’t gone the way of the beenie baby yet.

Sounds like you’re a bit bitter. I will say tho, there is this weird two sided thing I think newbies get confused on. On the one hand Lolita is often seen as a freedom, and the whole wear what you want and fuck normie opinions rhetoric gets thrown around a lot. On the other hand, within the fashion you can expect pretty aggressive scrutiny for wearing anything other lolitas don’t like, or mixing styles and taking risks. Don’t get it confused. The freedom to dress how you want only applies if you’re rocking Lolita in a normie world, within the Lolita world there’s basically no freedom at all to operate without scrutiny unless you don’t share your images, and even then another member of your own comm might post them elsewhere.

>>10516542
>another member of your own comm might post them elsewhere
do people still post other people uncensored without consent in 2020?

>>10510484
you're not wrong

>>10516546
Are you kidding? Have you like never looked around on here?