/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

A friend of mine wanted to get into lolita fashion so I make sure she only wastes money on shitty overpriced replicas from amazon

>>10570986

>>10570990
Not bait im just toxic D:

>>10571002
that's not toxic, that's psychotic and you're not even her friend at this point why bother

>>10571003
I suck at ending friendships shes sabotaged me as well albeit not in lolita

>>10570986
When you're ita but turn your friend into an even bigger ita

I love to bait larpers and newfriends, especially those spergs in the ita thread who reply to lots of images with their "concrit" as though anyone cares about their opinions

>>10571018
I actually like the people who put concrit in the ita thread, half of the complaints are about how no one wants to give concrit in cof anyways. There's a middle ground between asspats and dragging someone.

>>10571019
>>10571018
Giving concrit in the it's thread started happening more when we stopped having consistent COF threads. Personally I like getting insight into how other people pick out outfits/try to fix things.

My confession is I think my friend's taste is ita but I know nothing good can come of bringing it up so I just stay in my lane and quietly cringe.

>>10571047
Aww I've had friends whose taste is not my cup of tea but I always just enjoy their company so much that I don't even care anymore.

I would take 3 really amazing slightly ita friends than a full comm of perfectly dressed snobby no fun lolitas.

I preorder things on devil inspired because i'm too paranoid to do so with an ss (although i'll use an ss to buy other things on taobao)

i genuinely look down on anybody who isn't as pretty as me or has a substantially smaller/less impressive wardrobe. i know it's a shitty person thing to do, but i'm not outwardly mean so it doesn't change much. I'll only be friends with another lolita if i find her cute and she meets my standards, which has surprisingly yielded a solid group.

on the flip side, i think hating people for being prettier/having more material things is retarded. why surround yourself with the kind of person you don't want to be? that's just a cope

>>10571048
Exactly, like the way they dress isn't directly affecting me, it's just sometimes hard to constructively contribute when you know you're not on the same wavelength.

>>10571058
I don't think I could ever be confident enough in my looks to pull off that sort of thing. I applaud you for owning it

>>10571019
Except that most of the concrit is useless and sounds like it was written by someone who doesn't even wear the fashion

>>10571048
Same here, i am hugely put off by sweet and think it looks gross most of the time, but most of my friends are sweetfags. Would much rather have actual friends that i like who's tastes I'm not into (including just straight up itas) than hang out with a bunch of perfectly dressed but stuck up people. I'm in the fashion to have fun ultimately

>>10571058

Based.

>>10571058
While you say you aren’t outwardly mean, wouldn’t people notice when you consistently distance yourself from people who don’t meet your standards? That would probably come across as a jerk move after enough time. Also, what will happen when you and your friends age? Will you adjust your standards?

i think most lolitas are a bunch of snobby cunts obsessed with looks. I have fun doing scandalous things by lolita standards and not attaching myself to any comm which is, desu, the best decision i've ever made. I'll be old and wrinkly dying in my Meta. Who cares about anything anymore, the world is fucked. I hope you all die. I hope I do too.

>>10571093
If you want to like lolitas don’t spend time on 4chan, silly. Most never go here. It seems like you want an excuse to isolate yourself.
Hope your mental health improves, anon

>>10571087
>wouldn't people notice
not really, no. i treat everybody the same in public spaces. but i won't go out of my way to connect with them privately or hang out with them outside of a public setting if i don't like them. it's no different to how anyone else makes friends--i'm just pickier about certain things.
>what will happen when you and your friends age
i don't find older people less beautiful just because they're older. i'm also not going to eternally hunt for cute girls and drop aging ones to be friends with me into my 40s and 50s. i'm picky, but i'm not unhinged. ideally i'll maintain most of the friends i make while i'm young--i'm good to my friends.

>>10571093
>reads kamikaze girls a whole one (1) time
>posts this

>>10571095
I mean, it's your life, be friends with who you want. It's not like you're being horrible to them face to face. I have an element of this too I guess but I think it's more a bias than a rule.

I want more classic lolita friends :(( i really dislike a lot of sweet but sweetfags are way easier to find. Most classic lolita's I've seen around have pretty good taste and just appear to be people I can get along with easier too but that's an assumption.

I feel really disconnected from most sweetfags.

>>10571093
but what if we died together and we were both wearing meta

>>10571093
>scandalous things by lolita standards

what does this even mean

>>10571113
Nta but I’m guessing

>ero lolita
>no blouse and bare arms?
>jsk over op?
???

>>10571113
Smoking or sex? That’s what a lot of edge lords claim they do in their dresses

okay weirdly related to the topic at hand but here's my confession. whenever I get a new dress, after the first wash and steam I coordinate it and then smoke a joint in it to celebrate. It's the fucking best. I've worked so hard to afford these things and after being so poor for so damn long I just can't beleive I'm living this life. I feel so fucking lucky.

>>10571093
#notlikeotherlolitas

>>10571132
Just wondering, does the smell ever get into the dress?

>>10571132
your parents must be so proud

>>10571058
>i genuinely look down on anybody who... has a substantially smaller/less impressive wardrobe
I do this a lot. It's like I don't even want to talk to someone if they don't own -insert generic print here- and have however many accessories because I don't want to feel like I'm talking to a newbie, or someone who's just going to complain about not owning Decoration Dream/Toy Parade/etc, when I have it in every colorway.
I know it's elitist, but I really am just bored of people who don't know the first thing about AP or brand releases. There's a certian in-depth level of conversation I want to have, and if you own 5 dresses and 2 taobao blouses, I just can't.

>>10571132
based

>>10571132
I'm pretty exclusively into edibles personal but damn if this isn't a fun idea.

I've blocked so many popular lolitas on instagram. Life is good.

>>10571172
I block every english-speaking lolita

>>10571173
You should block yourself

>>10571175
Nah

I don't follow on ig or interact with any genderspecials. If I see 'they/them' in someone's profile that puts me off immediately. Stop kidding yourself, you're a woman

>>10571189
you're just jealous you can't be multiple women

>>10571018
>I love to bait larpers and newfriends
>newfriends
Oh dear anon

>>10571189
Imagine being this sensitive to people just existing on the internet. People change their last names when they get married - I don’t get why pronouns are that different.

>>10571189
Have fun terfing alone, anon.

>>10571132
I’m happy for you, anon

>>10571189
This 100%
>Dresses hyper feminine
>Wears a lot of makeup
>Makes zero attempt to look masculine at all
>Whines when randos don't magically know they identify as male or some made up gender.

Face it, you're just a lesbo in denial that wants to be trendy. You're a girl so deal with it.

>>10571192
If you don't know the term newfriend you are too new.

>>10571189

I don't even care whether or not they're a woman, we've got Mana and other crossdressing vkei artists wearing lolita after all.

I just care that they seem to be high-maintenance and expect you to do all this mental upkeep for them. Rather not risk interacting with something that might explode into a troublesome tantrum for attention or whatever.

>>10571195
>equating being against genderspecials to be against trannies
lmao. well, they'd be based either way.

>>10571018
I think this is caused by a combination of CoF and similar groups getting too sensitive for concrit, and ita's being more and more often less obvious eBay dress ita's and more often people who can't dress, which causes people to debate if things are ita vs just meh coords. Concrit is also people's reasoning why it's ita so people might learn as half the itas come here screeching vendetta or "not ita" all the time, while others actually posts vendettas all the time.

>>10571189
Yeah anytime I see they/them, pride flags, mogai shit, 'trans lives matter' etc I just block on sight lol

>>10571189
>>10571215
>I just care that they seem to be high-maintenance and expect you to do all this mental upkeep for them. Rather not risk interacting with something that might explode into a troublesome tantrum for attention or whatever.
I feel this so hard

>>10571211
I’m just amazed by your innocence it’s cute

>>10571058
>I'm more likely to befriend people on my level and who I have things in common with

So you're like everyone else then?

>>10571132
I can get behind that

>>10571258
Bro stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

You clearly don't know where newfriend came from.

>>10571258
I'm not even the OP and I can tell you're retarded, keep coping.

>>10571258
You write like a larper

I do love my comm but a lot of the times when we meet up in public places like cafés or restaurants, they'd randomly start talking about sex-related topics loudly and out of nowhere. I know most people my age are ~liberated and sex-positive ~ and talk about it casually, I might just come off as prude saying this but I often feel embarassed being around them when they do. People are already staring at us because of the clothes and overhearing that nearly everthing of our conversation is sex-talk, they probably think we're total degenerates.

I feel bad for spending so much of my parents' money on lolita but at least I don't spend on gacha games I guess

>>10571058
are you me anon

>>10571262
Tbf nayrt but I’m a lesbian and I much prefer to say newfriend, I know the other word is 4chan “culture” but fuck that Ha - it’s still a slur and I don’t want to say it... so even though newfriend is cringe as hell, I see why many people vastly prefer it.

>>10571281
I'm the OP and I prefer to say it for the same reason but I sometimes alternate between those. I noticed that some newfriend in particular got triggered over the word newfriend before, so I chose that for my bait. And it worked once again kek :^)

>>10571281
lol faggot

>>10571281
>>10571287
Newfriend Newfag tomato tomato

>>10571295
tomato potato 100% sale

>>10571287
lol same i love using newfriend to trigger all the edgy retards on here

>>10571281
>>10571287
I commend you both, keep up the good work.

>>10571050
i do this sometimes too. i had a ss mess up my preorder for mozrabic chant several years ago and ever since then i use resellers geared towards westerners for certain preorders just out of paranoia. i don't even think it's logically more likely that things will go well this way, but it gives me peace of mind

>>10571162
>someone who's just going to complain about not owning Decoration Dream/Toy Parade/etc,

This is part of why I don't go to most meets with my comm. Too many people complaining about being too poor for this and too fat for that, doesn't help that seemingly half the comm has autism and can't pick up on when people aren't receptive to that bullshit

New people don't bother me but unabashed newness does, like the kinds of people who post their try-on photos to CoF because they're too overexcited to read the room

>>10571172
I blocked most of them on stories because so many of them were reposting wondercunt nonsense. 10/10 recommend, their coords still show up in feed but their bullshit is silenced

>>10571313
how do you block someone on stories?

>>10571162
ayrt, this is a big contributor to my reasoning as well. like, if i post a milky planet coordinate in my friend group chat, the last thing i want is for someone to whine about not having milky planet.

consequently, basically all lolita discords except my private one make me irritated. even the vetted one is full of people with <10 main pieces who keep posting about how they wish sweet wasn't so expensive. like buck up buttercup, you're not entitled to a dress you can't afford.

>>10571250
to be fair, there are a lot of coords that get posted here as ita that are generally fine, but the person in question is fat/old/ugly/no makeup/bad hair/etc. although whether or not those things automatically make an ok coord ita is up for debate

Do you know what I want to see? I want to see a fully shirred skirt. One that can expand or contract depending on the poof of the petti.

>>10571365
you retarded?

>>10571337
Idk i feel like that's misreading the situation. Is it whining, or is it more aspirational? " One day i hope i can get this dress we both love!" Have you tried gushing over it with them? I hesitate in situations like this to call one party bad, it's usually just a misunderstanding caused by a lack of connection

>>10571058
Idk if it's shitty, just seems kind of boring. Like, you're using really lame metrics to pick out "friends" I'd be pretty surprised if it works out well for you. Sounds like you just have bad social skills, so you have to compensate by doing things you think others will find impressive.

I hate when burgers order online from AP Paris. Go back to your shitty breadcrumb sf shop

>>10571093
I hope you die first

>>10571189
Based. I do that too

>>10571281
Ok Faggot

>>10571395
Nah, I’m buying up your stock too.

>>10571281
Faggotp

>>10571194
Imagine being this triggered over a rando saying they don’t want to interact with some internet retard.

>>10571374
you're speculating a lot. i already have a group of ~10 people who are very close knit. my social skills are just fine; i simply don't want to be friends with poor and ugly people.

>>10571404
>>10571400
>>10571295
>>10571294

Imagine literally being on cgl, a board which is like 70% lesbians, and thinking that homophobic slurs make you cool and edgy..... lol cope harder pol scrotes

>>10571365
Do you really want to bring back those fully shirred monstrosities that were popular in the 00s with normies? Popcorn shirts or w/e

>>10571404
Faggotp sounds like some type of bad tumblr fujoshit term for a gay ship

>>10571281
Nigger faggot

>>10571172
I block anyone with the word salt in their name or bio and I’m living the dream now

>>10571281
I’m a lesbian too, while I don’t really care about the use of newfag I still prefer using newfriend because it’s cuter and it’s fun to see people sperg over “but muh 4chan culture”

>>10571422
I’m a lesbian but I still think you’re acting like a faggot

>>10571427
this is me lmao... scrotes on 4chan can die mad that we’re ruining their gross fucking “””culture”””

>>10571431
>>10571427
This place has been overrun by a bunch of sensitive whining SJW faggots. I miss the days where people like this were told to go back to tumblr. You getting told to integrate doesn’t make everyone who says so a scrote. This place has been filled with women for a decade, most of whom come here because we don’t have to filter ourselves and bend over backwards to appease retards like you.

>>10571436
stay mad kek

>>10571437
>U mad bro

Imagine unironically posting this and thinking you’re one upping somebody past the year 2009. Embarrassing.

>>10571424
kek

>>10571426
I might actually start doing this, anon, thanks

>>10571436
looks like you need to find a new safe space snowfllake

>>10571443
You’re the snowflake for coming to 4chan of all places and expecting people to stop saying the word faggot because it offends you.

>>10571444
if it bothers you just ignore it anon. If lestard can ignore it so can you, unless of course your triggered by social change

>>10571445
If the word faggot bothers you just ignore it

>>10571446
if the sjws on 4chan annoy you, just ignore it ;)

you guys need to be 18 to use this site, all this "no u" is like watching babies try to hold their own head up

>>10571448
This really isn’t the place for you. Why are you so insistent on making 4chan into your pissbaby safe space where naughty bad bad words like faggot, troon, and dyke aren’t allowed?

>>10571436
you sound like being the whining one anon

>>10571451
Nayrt but the words are clearly allowed, you just said them. Other people choosing not to use them is their own choice. Why are you so miffed about it?

>>10571335
Go to their profile and then go to the options to mute their stories

>>10571276
My favorite thing when people do this is pretend like I didn't hear it and keep talking about another subject. It's really funny when a group does it and the person wanting attention for mentioning sex or how they're totally special and poly doesn't get their attention and just sulks.

I'm not a prude but I just find this kind of talk to be dull. Only people who aren't happy with their sex lives or have low self esteem want to constantly talk about sex.

>>10571454
because muh culture anon.

>>10571453
>pointing out something is whining
uh huh

I want terf gender critical lolita friends. I know you're out there. I bet some of you are even in my comm but afraid to say anything irl.

I don't event want to discuss the genderspecials, I just want to talk about fashion, art, japanese culture, anime, harry potter and other topics without dealing with sjwism and land mines.

>>10571422
imagine taking slurs seriously on fucking 4chan
what a faggot

>>10571464
If your goal is to just discuss these regular topics, why does it matter if the friends are gender critical or not?

>>10571464
There's quite a few out there anon. I've been seeing fandom weebs not giving in to it too.
>tfw can be a total terf on main in male friend discord
>no one cares or agree with me
>Can't even try that in the female friend discord because they'll all come for me
Don't get me wrong, I love my female friends but jesus christ.

>>10571468
Nayrt but people who defend troons and genderspecials often are super sensitive and will bring up their gender politics into normal conversations. It’s really exhausting.

Haruka Kurebayashi is my idol and I want to die because I will never age as gracefully or look as weird-cute as her

Tired of being a lonelita.

>>10571453
You guys basically own the internet, why do you need to shit up 4chan? you know pulling stunts like this is why we have a radical alt-right, don't you? You dumb fucking sjws and your retarded identity politics are just as much to blame for Trump ever having been a thing other than a dumbass celeb, as everyone who voted for the bastard. Problematic faggotry with grave fucking consequences.

>>10571444
We don’t expect people to stop using it... we just chose not to ourselves and apparently that’s enough to make you flip your absolute shit... ayrt is correct to call you a snowflake, pathetic

>>10571484
>SJWs are the reason the alt right exists
>SJWs are the reason Trump got elected somehow
>not the alt right

kek, imagine the cope. SJWs are whiny babies and sure safespaces and people being overly sensitive to things are their faults to some degree, but calling them the reason for other grown adults choosing to believe a different ideology is retarded.

>>10571454
This actually gives me hope for humanity lmao. Even on 4chan, the last bastion of edgelords there has been a change in the culture on ye olde boards.

>>10571484
I love how the alt right is simultaneously the strong independent side, yet can be absolutely triggered by the simple act of just not actively using slurs lmao.

>>10571479
same anon, same

>>10571489
I feel like cringe culture/being anti-everything you don't personally like is getting old on the internet so most people including on cgl are tired of arguing over dumb shit and just wanna chill and like what we like. I think that is a good thing generally.

>>10571491

kek, this 100%. the alt right is always about independence and freedom to do or say whatever you want until what you want is...to not be mean to people?

>>10571489

It shouldn't. The real edgy kids now are alt right and have long abandoned 4chan for other forums. Thinking 4chan is even remotely where it once was as a beacon of edgy internet culture is dated.

>>10571484
If you don’t like me not saying slurs, just ignore it snowflake

The alt right are such faggots

>>10570984
stop making these threads, they always derail into garbage

>>10571495
4chan is more angry incel coomers than edgelords these days, but there is some overlap because of the lack of maturity in the former group. Alt right is problematic but at least it acknowledges men shouldn't expect to sit in their basement draining their balls all day and night and somehow still be entitled to a mate despite not doing a single thing to be a functioning human or member of society.

Some of you don't browse any other board and it shows

>>10571498
they're huge nigger faggots t b h

>>10571472
it's almost like your male friends don't care about you talking about things that have nothing to do with them

>>10571503
only other board I browse is vp for pokemon updates which is probably why I assume most boards are full of coomposting. vp in particular has a thing for feet and underage characters...and y'know...pokeporn...but people there are at least relatively nice so long as you're on topic. cgl is more mean spirited but has less degenerate content

>>10571502

I sort of miss edge for the sake of being edgy and far prefer it over this "women won't open their legs for me reeee" bullshit

>>10571503
There are some people who solely browse twitter and cgl and it shows.

>>10571456
based

>>10571508
Must be nice being male and not have to worry about trannies shitting up your space

>>10571464
I’m a really normal girly girl and not at all genderspecial but if I’m honest you gender critical lot weird me out more than the transes? Like idk if you don’t like them just don’t make friends with them, there’s just something really obsessive about daydreaming about creating a comm just to shit on trans people

>>10571468
I’ve been in some of these groups before... they pretend they just want to talk about normal stuff but it always, always, descends into bullying the trans people in our comm. Just seems unnecessary to me, I don’t like it either

>>10571528
This. A gender critical comm or group just makes me feel like they want to talk shit which sounds exhausting to listen to.

>>10571528
Yeah, Tbh I really dgaf about gender specials one way or the other, but the level of obsession some of these girls have is really bizarre. Honestly who in this covid depression actually has the energy to give that many fucks about some randos junk/sex/gender?

>>10571464
I wish trans were banned from comms in general. I have nothing against brolitas as long as they're actually putting effort in and not being creepy but trans 99% of the time are fucking sissies and degenerates entering comms as a fetish thing.

>>10571541
Must be some sample size you’re working with retard chan

>>10571541
Hard agree, though honestly I’d rather not have brolitas either. Ideally it’d be any man, or anything with a penis or born with a penis for you SJWs, would be banned from comms and shunned by any online community.

>>10571543
Let them be, this is the only place they can be total retards without getting cancelled.

>>10571549
they should atleast fuck off to the farm, they already destroyed that anyway.

>>10571551
SEETHE troon

>>10571552
What does Troon even mean? I see it all the time... sorry for the newfRIEND question

>>10571545
Who hurt you anon? Lmao honestly this seems like a you problem. Get some therapy and grow up, about 50% of the population has a penis at any given point in time.

>>10570984
>Polyester
Low level.
Now stretch velour fabric and staple "stiches", THAT is a crime punishable by synthetic fabric immolation.

the reason people don't want trannies in communities like lolita is because instead of just enjoying themselves and having a good time with fashion they make it about themselves, their imaginary entitlements, microaggressions, and gender politics without fail.
not a single lolita community i know of is free of constant plights for validation or complaining about how a hyper-feminine fashion choice that they themselves chose gives them bad feelings. i very much doubt trans people would have as much of a hard time in these types of spaces if they'd learn to take a chill pill with their hrt and enjoy things, perhaps if you lack the maturity to wear clothes without crying about it you might also be lacking the maturity to make such a life altering decision about which gender you want to larp as.

>>10571551
The farm was ruined by pulltards, but it was always full of immature catty bitches.

>>10571545
This is the ideal to be honest, I would be fine with brolitas if they just knew how to behave themselves. But they just... don't. They just don't get it, they eventually start looking for romance or other shit in comms. They at least should do the bare minimum of taking care of themselves, nobody wants to see your 5 o'clock shadow coord.
>>10571543
ntayrt but that has been my experience with all troons in comms, including hitting on members, being openly sexual in sfw comms and in general looking disgusting and unwashed, you're welcome to enlighten me to find ones that aren't just sissies with extra steps lol

>>10571565
Lurkmoar retard

>>10571058
I don't think this is bad per se, so long as you treat everyone else with respect, even if they don't meet your beauty standards. The criteria for choosing who you gonna get closer to is up to you, and you alone.
>>10571132
based
>>10571473
Pretty much.

>>10571566
Men, obviously. I’m sick of being harassed by them all the time and having them invade women’s spaces under the guise of “inclusivity” only to behave in predatory ways

>>10571439
nta but youre seething so hard its actually hilarious. and you call yourself an oldfag

>>10570984
While I enjoy wearing lolita without any lustful thoughts, I love feeling like a living doll while wearing the fashion. I fantasize about serving my husband while waring it daily. The historical inspirations of the fashion only adds to this : as it wouldn't feel the same being a subservient wife wearing pastel vomit sweet, than in victorian-inspired classic.

For me, there i nothing "unapologetically feminist" about wearing lolita. Do you really thing that taking up space with your petti, while looking like a doll has anything to do with feminism? Why do you think that victorian feminists criticized the crinoline, and invented practical garments like bloomers?
Any time I see any of you there, or on social media, do the most ridiculous mental gymnastics to pretend that wearing lolita is feminist, I can't help but laugh of you. You would probably stop complain about your eating disorders and various mental illnesses if you decided to embrace feminity completely, and not only its empty appearance.

>>10571602
Lolita means different things to different people. The only thing I really mind is DDLG shit, I think DDLG shit is disgusting, personally. We don't need that here. But I can also understand why you fantasize about serving your husband whilst wearing it. So long as the fashion reminds a fashion first and foremost, and a sexual thing.

Regardless, I still think there is an element of feminism to lolita, to reject being the object of the male gaze. I mean, if you want to know more on why, refer to the male gaze thread on this board. It's about not following the 'patriarchal norm'.

I would like to ask what you mean by 'if you decided to embrace feminity completely'?

>>10571602
>not wanting to wear lolita and bully your bf
>not wanting to step on him and make him serve you tea
wtf? weak

>>10570984
I want to become a lonelita.

My lolita comm are poorfags, act like know-it-alls and won't quit calling old-school classic. They spend all of their time talking shit about others while it's been MONTHS since they've worn/made/bought lolita themselves (or never have before
...) They all enjoy extremely cringe youtube content and ranting. I wish I could flee my shitty country with all of their shitty poorfag poser comms.

>>10571602
didn’t the rich historical aristocrats who could afford fancy clothing have maids who did that sort of stuff?

>>10571141
It doesn't seem to, but I have also only had them for about a year. Time will tell whether the smell sticks, but it has never stuck to any of my other clothes and I've been smoking at least once daily for 5 years. I am pretty careful to always smoke in ventilated areas or outside though so, that probably helps.

>>10571171
it's a ton of fun! I can't do edibles so I am very jealous, I've heard the high from those is intense!

>>10571616
yes, even not super rich people somehow had help. the wives who were serving their husbands couldn't afford help, so i guarantee they wouldn't be able to afford super nice clothes. maybe 1 good frock.

ayrt's post threw me off for that reason. honestly sounds like a sissy who wants to RP to me.

>>10571565
here's the spoon little baby: its another slur for trans people. troon=tranny goon

>>10571617
I wanna get stoned with you in lolita nonny. let's trip too

also I've never had issues getting weed smell out of my clothes. unless you're smoking resin around your dresses or blunts full of super crappy dirt weed there's not much to worry about.

There's a girl in my comm who I really like, but she's got an unfortunate face and doesn't dress great. I feel bad thinking this way, especially if I see her posted on the ita thread - I feel a big pang of sadness for her. She's extremely kind and a lovely person.

>>10571619
>even not super rich people somehow had help
they'd pop out 7 kids for free child labor and send some off for an unpaid intern apprenticeship to someone else
>maybe 1 good frock
made by grandma, no doubt

>>10571620
thank u from baby

>>10571602
>You would probably stop complain about your eating disorders and various mental illnesses if you decided to embrace feminity completely
ew lol. picrel, mfw

>>10571566
lolita fashion can do just fine without the 50%

>>10571623
I feel you. There are people like that for me too. I try to give advice to improve their coords and some have gotten better with that, though. Not much you can do about the unfortunate face, but there are always ways with make-up or presentation that you can make that better too.

>>10571624
lol i love you, grinch squad 1417. upvoted

>>10571628
If that 50% has been oppressing the other 50% for centuries, you already know which part of the equation needs to go.

>>10571345
>although whether or not those things automatically make an ok coord ita is up for debate
Yeah my point was that (next to CoF and such getting too savespacey so people lash out harder here) the line between meh and ita blurs more nowadays than in the time of classic eBay & Milanoo itas. So debate comes up more if stuff is ita or not. Also indeed debate weather being ugly, fat or unfortunate in other ways are included in that, but it's not limited to that. So I guess you agree?

Giving your reasoning is the only way to debate, other than empty hate or simple "not ita" comments. Those only really work on obvious things.

>>10571635
> centuries

That’s putting it nicely. More like all of recorded human history. And obviously before recorded human history.

>>10571276
Being liberal and sex positive doesn't mean you should randomly shout about it or continuously talk about. People who do that with that excuse are not only annoying and poorly mannered, they also make sure people actually trying to work or even believe in normalising woman having sex and being liberal get a harder time due to being associated with those morons. Even if topics are not taboo, there still is a time, place and volume for everything. Randomly shouting sex stuff out of nowhere isn't the right one on any of those 3 things.

I've got extra salt for people using a theoretically good cause as an excuse for being horrible and selfish. Fuck them, hope they die.

>>10571622
hell yes let's do it, I've never tripped before and its a shame.

>>10571665
>>10571622
Wish I had irl lolita friends like this

>>10571628
TFW you morons wouldn't have most of the fashion as it is today without men, like it or not.
Whether it be Isobe or Mana, men have positively contributed to the fashion to shape it into what it is today.
Maybe go to therapy and learn to hate actual predators instead of all men as a whole, you're maladjusted as hell.

>>10571679
cry about it bitch

>>10571679
you think isobe and mana made their brands with 0 influence from women? that mana decided to start dressing in drag without being inspired by what women wear?

>>10571686
here, how about men have made positive contributions and so have women, women have done quite a lot and have been the main inspirations and contributors but we should also acknowledge the men who have helped made it what it is.

lmao.

>>10571630
Yeah, I truly think if she "dressed her head for her face" then it'd be better but she uses makeup techniques and hairstyles that simply don't suit her. I don't hold it against her - it took me a while to find a nice haircut that suited my face shape.

Basically, I need to grow the balls to do what you do and offer small advices.

>>10571635
You could use the same argument for killing all white people lol

>>10571670
same anon, I have no other lolitas anywhere near me to smoke with

>>10571699
But if you did that then society would cease to progress

>>10571189
Same which is ironic considering that I'm dysphoric and technically have a "gender identity" lol. I hate other kweeries so much I'd gladly take straight women over their this mogai she/they bullshit.

>>10571705
>>10571665
>>10571670
Zoom smoke sesh meet? lol I'm only half kidding

>>10571690
Thanks for being reasonable, anon

if I started a 420 lolita discord with vetting (post pics of at least one flatlay/coord with handle and at least one pic of your piece and some bud or a package of edibles or something lmao) would anyone wanna join? A safespace where we can be degenerate frilly psychonauts

>>10571713
Sounds like a fun idea! But be considerate of people like >>10571665 in your vetting process <3

>>10571706
You’re literally on an entire website that was born out of celebrating japanese culture, you absolute braindead fuck

>>10571713
Ok cop-chan

>>10571726
>thinking 4chan is a good example of societies progression

You don’t really have any room to call anyone else brain dead

>>10571370
Nayrt but putting your aspirations on each other persons' outfit that does have them is still shitty in an using their post to draw attention to yourself kinda way. Just say something about the person's outfit instead of talking about all the stuff you hope you'll have one day, and leave those aspirations for an appropriate moment, like when the topic is (or is open to make) stuff on your wishlist instead of someone else's outfit. Just because you want something doesn't mean you need to tell people each time there is something remotely reminding you of it.

>>10571722
ah of course! just proof that you partake in some form of the devil's lettuce

>>10571727
weed is legal where I live and most places it's at least medically legal and/or decriminalized recreationally. even if you did report some rando to their respective local authorities for sharing a photo of a bong and some bud they will possibly laugh and you, and definitely won't do jack shit about it. the only thing I could see possibly raising some eyebrows would be if some anon shared a pic with an insane amount of weed along with proof they're from a place where it's illegal. knew a burger who was a dealer and his ex called the cops on him all the time and kept trying to send them proof and the cops told her to leave them alone and didn't do jack shit

>>10571739
>just proof that you partake in some form of the devil's lettuce
What if you don't but want to try? or are into other substances?

>>10571374
Nyart but I have bad social skills and am similar picky in my friends, and I've never been as happy as since I started doing so. A few good friends is a thousands times better than many who just use each other to cope with problems that need help but rather validate each other on how great they are for being alive while having issues that 9/10 times are wrongly selfdiagnosed or made much bigger than it is. Fuck pity parties.

Do I think highly of myself? Yes. Do I have things I'm not great at? Also yes. But I still think in general I'm better than most people and I don't feel like hanging out as friends with at least 90% of the people I meet and avoid them outside of the polite interactions required to not be a bitch. And I'm happy and doing well in live so I see no reason to change.

Having such a picky friend matric and having bad social skills are able to go hand in hand. Just because you're bad at socialising doesn't say you should settle with anyone who wants you no matter how you feel about them...

>>10571441
Be careful who you block though, because some of them will cry you hate them and make up some story about why you did it LOL

Most of the time I see random desu I automatically assume it's a person too much of a newfag to know a certain abriviation automatically gets shortened to it. Not sure if it's really uncommon for long time users to use said abriviation or if it's just because I didn't know when I was new here years ago that I made that association back then on my own newfaggery tho.

>>10571093 is a good example of this.

>>10571752
I’m just not autistic enough to care desu senpai baka candyass roodypoo onions

>>10571743
>What if you don't but want to try?
you can take pics when you take the leap and decide to try and then be vetted but

>are into other substances?
uhhh depends, what other substances are talking about nonny? I suppose pics of a shroom stash or blotters could be an acceptable alternative but I've never met anybody who does those but doesn't smoke weed too

>>10571484
I'm not radical or anything and they aren't the sole reason, but these kind of people without a doubt are part of the reason I'm more right wing than left.

I'm not annoyed by them existing, I'm annoyed at their behaviour trying to force an extreme standard on everyone and using loud social media presence to enforce it like their ideas are the only acceptable ones. I disagree often and not only is it often impossible to have proper conversation, I'll be imidiently considered a Nazi for disagreeing. It's their extremism that makes me much more extreme too. So I don't think anon is entirely wrong, but it's exagated.

Dunno about your American politics tho, so I'm staying out of the Trump thing. American politics seem rather retarded anyways. More about events (which are completely unrelated to politics themselves and more about marketing what a great father a person is, or even just randomly having a nice event associate with them) and who shouts the hardest the other is stupid than about political groups making points trying to convince others. Not to forget this endless thing where famous artists continuously act like they're just paid to rehearse a script by all political parties ever, like "this celebrity supports me" is part of their political ideas... Those feel like such a weird and unnatural ads...

>>10571779
On a side note. I don't give a fuck if people use newfag or newfriend.

>>10571503
I tried some other boards but I can't get into it. /cgl/ was my first board and I feel it set my expectations too high. Even other blue boards are so useless from what I tried. For example, I wish I could have conversation about kpop (similar like lolita here, even if just the Lolita general) but the kpop general in /mu/ is nothing but people sharing random photos with no context, stating which idol they want to fuck, and a guy posting BIG DICK LISA every once in a while. Feel like /cgl/ put my expectations too high.

Every once in a while I still try hoping to find a gem board of even thread, but so far I've end up wondering why I thought I'll find anything different.

>>10571779
god you must be fun to be around

>>10571545
I would agree if not for a brolita being one of my favourite people in my com, and I know many other com members feel similarly positive about him. But he's a Asian dude that not only can pass as woman, but also is super social in a good way.

Sadly, pretty much every other brolita I've seen is creepy, including the only other brolita in my com. Can I just give that one guy a exception for proven to be better?

>>10571795
Fat same here. All the other boards are nasty scrotes copeposting about their sad lives, wanking over pics of women, or threatening to doxx each other. Hate to admit it but /cgl/ is far and away the most civilised board on this disgusting website

>>10571795
/ck/ is not too bad

>>10571804
>Hating people pushing their believes on others using cancel culture and being called a Nazi if you disagree with said believes or behaviours == no fun person to be around.

Well if that's your standard I guess I'm not. But if that's the standard, I also don't want to be. Doesn't take away that the other anon was having a point in that the raising extremity of that side does at least partially account for people becoming more and more extreme towards the opposite.

>>10571821
You wrote an entire fucking essay to talk about how boring you are but ok yawn lol

>>10571752
Literally same but I still fall for it myself sometimes too lmao I love being a hypocrite

>>10571821
>extremity of that side does at least partially account for people becoming more and more extreme towards the opposite.

I really don't understand this. How does shitty (or annoying most of the time really if we're talking most SJW people) people existing mean other people have to be equally but oppositely shitty, rather than just...be decent humans? When I see people who behave meanly or are bad people with extreme beliefs, my first response is not to either don a sheet/swastika and burn a cross or dye my hair blue and ree on Twitter, my first response is to say to myself "Gee, they should shill out, I'm sure if I treat them like humans they'll be receptive", and go from there. If there is no helping them I will just avoid them but not suddenly join the opposite side.

I guess some people will just always be sheep or anti-sheep for whatever reason. Must suck to live like that senpai.

As a chestlet it makes me smug to see cow titted sluts not fit into cute dresses the way i do. For once i feel like i've won
>inb4 you're insecure and single
I absolutely am and i don't even care.

>>10571752
I've been on the chinz for years and I do it because in my head I read it as both t b h and desu and it makes me laugh everytime

>>10571833
Nazis need an excuse for their naziing, I guess

>>10571836
You win in more ways than you realize, chestlet-chan. You don't have as many back issues, you can fit normie clothes better too, you can wear certain necklines without accused of being a slut, no one hypersexualizes your body at a young age, no one makes fun of your boobs in middle/high school, it's easier for you to find a supportive good fitting bra, your boobs don't hurt from jumping up and down while exercising, you can wear demi cup bras without the top half of your nips hanging out you can see your toes over your boobs...the list goes on.

>>10571842
This. I’m so so jealous of smaller-chested women

>>10571836
are you jelly of big boob ladies nonny? I'm a chestlet but I've never been insecure about my boob size, it's one of the few parts of my body I've always felt super secure about actually (I'm also a fan of my ears and nose). you should embrace you IBTC membership and love yourself without needing to feel smug about the big boobed ladies not being able to wear what they'd like to wear

>>10571836
Fuck off with your larping, scrote

>>10571842
Tbh i might be a closeted lesbian because i both feel frustration and a rush of warmth in my chest and face when i see well endowed girls.
I'm sorry i was mean anon, you're not a slut.
I think hanging on 4chan for so long has warped my perception of reality and i see it through the eyes of moids

>>10571845
Jelly but also insecure because i might be fucking gay and idk how to react to that

>>10571851
If it makes you feel better, I sometimes think I'm bisexual but realize I am kind of only gay for well endowed 2D anime girls.

>tfw im a cowtit in lolita but a chestlet in normie clothes

>>10571863
how does that work nonny, whats your bust measurement?

my confession is that i pissed off an e famous lolita once a long time ago. she even called me out by my username; luckily this was many years ago before you get doxxed and harassed relentlessly so nothing came of it. she later ended up being my secret santa and wrote a really nice note and gave me a really thoughtful gift. i wonder if she knew i was the same person who pissed her off

>>10571661
>I've got extra salt for people using a theoretically good cause as an excuse for being horrible and selfish. Fuck them, hope they die.

this is how i feel about sjws
i tend to agree with their viewpoints--black lives matter, trans women are women, intersectionality, etc but the way they go about expressing them makes me think they dont actually care about the cause at hand, they just want to watch the world burn

>>10571863
>tfw cowtit in both lolita and normie clothes but don't care because I'm comfortable with my body

>>10571893
It's not just about being comfortable with your body. There is a level on inconvenience having to alter pieces to physically fit in a way that is not painful or uncomfortable or at all over your chest. Even if I like my body or how it looks naked or in certain other things, I am still practically inconvenienced by various pains or friction in everyday life because of my chest size.

>>10571893
>but don't care because I look like shit either way
fify

>>10571863
>>tfw used to be cowtit but lost like a third of my bodyweight and now a chestlet...... i miss them ngl

>>10571893
Good job, anon. That’s hard to do in this environment.

>>10571896
anon, that just means you were fat.

>>10571896
You can always wear falsies. Gals with large chests can’t reduce significantly without binders which have risks involved

>>10571880
Agreed with the last part.
The way they express it is so empty and performative and they'll give any groddy ass autogynephilic sissy twitter "transgirl" a pass under the guise of them being trans which therefore means they can do no wrong. Just like anyone questioning a POC must be racist. anyone in disagreement with their allmighty social justice must be a bigot for sure. they're cocksuckers and they can choke they're ruining lolita by making it all about them, their white saviorism and their woke contest

>>10571898
yeah I was, that’s why I lost the weight. I miss having big boobs tho lol

>>10571880
I am curious which famous lolita this is

>>10571900
jesus fuck, cope harder

>>10571896
Yeah sorry anon I think when we say big tits we mean more like a big cup size, not a 48 inch band size. Congrats on the weight loss.

>>10571900
Based

>>10571908
Damn, a 48 inch band size is a thing? I feel huge with a 34 band size Although it's not fat, just my bones being unfortunately large

>>10571908
I was a 34E and now a 28C ... you do actually lose fat on your boobs as well as everywhere else you know

>>10571914
I am so jealous of people with actually normal band sizes, fuck. I'm a 34 at my thinnest.

>>10571914
not everyone loses breast fat when they lose weight, anon.

>>10571916
To be honest for me it came much more from taking more care of my mental health than physical - once I started looking after myself mentally, I stopped depression/binge eating, and that led to pretty rapid weight loss in the last year. Funny really how I basically worked through my depression in what has been the worst year in everyone else’s life. But yeah idk I’m proud of myself

>>10571912
I mean if you're fat enough. I had a 36 inch band size when I was chubby, now down to 34 and maybe it would get to 32 if I lost a bit more weight but idk based on my bone structure. Because I have big boobs I would try to shop at Lane Bryant for bras and they never carried below a 36 inch band and they rarely had my size in store so I'd have to have them order it. Being on the cusp of plus and standard sizes is hell. I frequently saw A cups with 40+ band sizes on the racks and all and got pissed I couldn't ever get even a 36DD which isn't that small or anything. A couple years ago though they expanded further and now the band sizes go smaller but only if your cup size is bigger I think, and they also go even bigger these days too.

>lose weight despite already being in a normal range so I can look good in jfash
>look better than I have in years
>but
>still an E cup

Curse my hourglass. I’m sick of people complimenting this part of my body when I hate it so much. I just want to exist in a space without people assuming I’m “trying to be sexy” because my chest is noticeable no matter how I dress.

>>10571917
Most people do. Sure you may have a larger base tit size but you’re retarded if you think there isn’t extra fat stored there if you aren’t ana. Why do you think most anorexics have small tits?

>>10571914
At my thinnest i was 28FF, back when i was 100 lbs. I'm so jealous

>>10571918
I'm proud of you too, for having normal sized bones unlike me.

>>10571917
nayrt but agreed. that’s a lie told to you by the diet industry to stop women from getting scared of losing weight. u can’t spot-target fat loss, you have to accept that fat loss will occur everywhere. askyourself why a majority of supermodels are basically C cup and below

>>10571916
>>10571912
34 is literally the most common band size regardless of cup size nonnies. chill cause you're fine dont let the farms and the hungry gulls steal your happiness the way regular hungry seagulls would try to steal your lunch

>>10571922
Wtf why are do so many people have normal band sizes when thin. I have never seen anyone here have a band size larger than 32, at most. I'm only 5'0" too. I feel wider than I am tall.

>>10571927
Than why have I never seen anyone on /cgl/ say they have a band size that high? Also I'm only 5'0". I have no excuse to be this wide at my height.

>>10571929
Do you add inches when you measure? A well fitting bra should be a band size close to your actual measurement, but old fashioned methods say to add 4". Also 28 is not normal, it's small. Almost no bra companies in the US produce that size.

>>10571929
People lie on the internet, especially about their size. People are also less likely to share if they are not thin on boards like this. You’re probably fine, anon

>>10571926
body type has a lot to do with it though. different body types lose fat in different areas first. if you lose enough body fat eventually all of it will disappear, but some people will always lose breast weight first, and some will always lose it last.

>>10571922
if this isnt scrote larping plz post a pic nonny, not of your naked boobs OBVS but just of you when you were that size, crop your face out. I wanna see what that looks like on a girl who isn't 2D, I'm intrigued af like how did you not topple over at the gentlest breeze. I need answers

>>10571931
No, I did not add any inches. I am actually that huge.

>>10571933
Agreed. I’m a 32” and I fit lolita just fine, people are just weird about weight on cgl

>>10571926
You can't target it but for a few people (obviously not a huge majority but common enough in my family, I'm nonwhite so idk if that plays a role cause I know white girls with big boobs too) even anorexia will only get you so far and you can still have a noticeable amount of breast tissue.

Source: hospitalized for an ED at a young age which partially started because of an early puberty and I hated my boobs and body and wanted to keep them as small as I could and avoid male attention and wear clothes from my little sister's closet to look younger to keep adult men from talking to me, which really was still never small enough for me.

>>10571940
Damn that sucks. As someone who started puberty early too, I really feel for you. Being 10 with boobs sucked hard.

>>10571936
AYRT, FF on a small band size isn't actually cartoonishly huge, it's the cup equivalent of 34DD. Maybe I'll dig one up later. but just look up bratabase, you can see for yourself what that looks like on people. Usually it's a 36" bust and 28" band

>>10571930
please refer to >>10571933 and >>10571931

28 is not average and it's basically impossible to find one. I couldn't find any at any normal bra places the smallest size pepper carries is a 30A and that's a bra company designed for small boobs. so I really wouldn't be surprised if these people were larpers or just straight up lying.

>>10571929
I’m also 32

>>10571942
>implying 28 is a small band size and using 34 as a "normal" comparison
kek

>>10571939
>>10571947
Well that's great for you, but I still have the largest band size here at 34. Also how tall are you two?

>>10571948
LOL are you single handedly funding the production of 26 size bands anon? GL

>>10571949
5’6

>>10571952
That explains it. I'm 5'0", aka should not be this wide

>>10571940
>tfw pear shape with no tits and huge ass and legs
>ass is still huge no matter what weight
oh well...

>>10571954
Perfect for lolita though

>>10571953
what’s your bmi?

>>10571956
I'm not sure, but I definitely don't have fat on my massive ribcage.

>>10571942
I looked it up and it seems like it'd still look nuts on someone who was 100 lbs unless you're like 5'0 or smaller. like I'm picturing it on my frame and I'd feel unsteady

>>10571954
I always wanted to be a pear. It would be great for lolita and I could still get to be "curvy" and feel feminine without looking fat up top because of my tits. Hourglass body type is overrated, kids. Pear is where it's at.

>>10571960
>tfw apple
Kill me please

>>10571961
Oh anon, you shouldn’t have said this. I can already hear the ana-chans coming for you...

>>10571953
anon look up average band size it's been 34 for decades. the cup size has gotten bigger but the avg band has been 34 since the 1950s when obesity wasn't an epidemic

>The average woman in the 50s had a 27.5-inch waist and her bra size was 34B; in 2017, women's waists are 34 inches and they wear a 36DD bra

>>10571955
it definitely isn't a bad thing that's true!

>>10571963
But how tall was the average woman? It makes more sense if they're taller.

>>10571959
I am 5'2

>>10571936
Pulled my old photo from a bra review, nonny. it isn't that extreme

>>10571966
Considering most humans have been getting gradually taller over time, probably average height or slightly below.

>>10571969
Dropped pic

>>10571973
Definitely big, but not unstable big. I guess we would need to see your whole body to tell.

>>10571973
You look normal. And people are trying to tell me that 28 is small kek

>>10571936
aren't you a woman?? those aren't that huge, they're about the same size as media DDs or so.

>>10571966
the avg woman in the 1950s was 5'2-5'3

chillax

I want to reduce my ribs

>>10571836
Same here. lolita fashion helped me love my body more.

>>10571975
It just depends on the person's body. And you can be smaller than average while still looking normal; the average is by definition made up/calculated by adding up and dividing both your smaller end and the super huge end of the spectrum. Maybe the median would be more useful information than average? Idk.

>>10571973
those look ginormous to me nonny

anyway gonna hide this post bc I feel like a creepy bi perv

>>10571983
I can confidently say that my body looks huge at 5'0" with a 34 band size. There's no way my body is average. I've looked in a mirror, and I'm not blind.

>>10571983
Don't reply to scrotebait. If 28 was an average band size you'd be able to find it at the average store - you can't.

>>10571930
people with normal band (and cup) sizes dont bother to talk about them because there's nothing to talk about. they're always able to find bras easily and cheaply, they rarely have issues fitting into clothes, etc. it's pretty much only the outliers who make it a topic of conversation and then only other outliers contribute to the conversation.

>>10571986
Sounds like a good "problem" to have imo

>>10571984
nta but they're in a push up bra.

>>10571988
Even if I have an easier time finding bras, it still sucks to be ugly when I look in the mirror

>>10571985
>I've looked in a mirror, and I'm not blind.
But you could have dysmorphia, js.

Anyway 5' is pretty short; I'm 5', 120lbs, and have a 32 band size but that 2 inches does not suddenly make someone look inhumanly disproportionate the way you're acting.

>>10571986
not necessarily, most US women are fat but size 16 (mathematically average size) is plus sized and some stores carry only straight sizes. And many people wear bras that don't fit because of the shady industry squishing us all into a smaller size range for profit. Even then though no one is fat for having a 32 or 34 band size.

>>10571990
Parfait Affinitas is not a pushup bra.

Probably not an uncommon confession, but I'll say it anyway. I don't view western or chinese lolita as legit. As much as I want to appreciate what other countries bring to the fashion, I can't help but think that every piece of indie or taobao I've owned is absolute garbage. I've gotten rid of them all t b h.

>>10571996
feel like we never talk about the "good" brands on the indie brand honest review threads, it's always the famous but meh quality ones like violet fane and lady sloth.

i love indie brands and have had good experiences with krad lanrete, cloudberry lady, cherie cerise, i do declare, lily of the valley, and mulberry chronicles. the black ribbon has nice construction too and i wish she'd stop using fabrics that look like mass-produced joann's allover prints because she's talented from a technical standpoint. also want to try kaneko now after their recent shift away from polyester and into more interesting materials with nicer drape and texture

>>10571996
Sorry you have shit judgemen/taste? There are plenty of really high quality taobao and western brands anon, don’t shit on all of them just because you suck at shopping

>>10572006
I feel like I could go the rest of my life without seeing another lady sloth dress. Every time I see some purple orange Halloween hot topic monstrosity pop up on LM I cringe.

>>10571869
im like a 32 B/C? i never feel busty at all until i'm in lolita, where i have to wear a minimizer bra with most of my clothing. but a guy would never call me busty or lust after my breasts lol its not a feature id be desired for.

>>10572085
I feel that. Neither small enough for Lolita, nor large enough by normie standards TT

>>10572085
>>10572111
>>10572085
>>10572111
>but a guy would never...lust after my breasts lol its not a feature id be desired for.

nonnies I'm asking this in the kindest way possible, but are you both femcels? cause I'm a 30B according to the "a bra that fits" calc thing. the size of my boobs has never been a disadvantage for me and I've most certainly had guys lust over specifically my boobs. go git em, ladies

>>10571963
>tfw precisely these 1950s measurements
well, thanks for making me feel ok about my body today bpd-chan.

>>10572122
this. especially if you have those small boob puffy nipples, guys can go crazy for that.

>>10571963

huh i'm a bit smaller but my measurements have the same difference, neat. Thanks for making me feel less like a box bpd anon.

i feel like the only one whos not insecure about my body and doesnt give a fuck about my boobs here lmao

>>10572122

seriously get you a man who loves small perky tits. there are so many around who understand how tits actually work. i used to date a guy who thought tits had to be like in anime, fuck that shit lmao. my current bf fucking loves my tits.

sage for ot and also low key sounding like bpdchan.

I guess i have a good eye for things. Sniped up random brand from fril that had shitty blurry pics and when they arrived i found they are rare, good condition....and then proceeded to sell on LM if i didn’t like it, for a small profit or equal. Feels good man. I call it my ‘wtf am i buying it could be a curtain’ tax. It’s kind of fun actually. I don’t know what I’ll get.

>>10571920 I feel this so much. I hate my hourglass figure, particularly my bust. My hips are ok in lolita but there really is no way to hide my boobs, and it makes finding things that fit so hard

>>10572143
my tits are small but not perky :(

>>10572122
Not a femcel, I’ve been with guys before but none have ever been wowed by my body, they just tolerate it because men have high and low standards at the same time. a man will fuck you even if he finds you repulsive. he just won’t spoil you or treat you well.

>>10571833
Because being neutral while the group of annoying shitty people is growing is just waiting for things to get worse? If one extreme said, be it left or right, gets louder and more influencial it's only logic the other side will do the same...

Also never said it's reason to go full on neo-nazi, I only said extreme leftist will call you a Nazi for disagreeing. It's possible to be moderate right you know? Just like how not every lefty is a SJW. I also hate those retarded neo Nazis you describe. But they do also come to be more common or loud due to them. It's just an action reaction thing.

Even the extremism. Each time people get more extreme, the other side will too. because no one cares to talk about stuff, just blame each other. And the only way to get rid of the other side is to shout harder. Someone should shuss down both extreme sides.

>>10571917
It's one of the first places that looses it tho, so most people will.

I've got D cups with a small bandwidth. I want them bigger (like F or G) but the only reason I'm worried about getting implants and haven't done so yet is because I won't be able to properly fit most lolita.

>>10571778
Sounds so appealing to share my lolita related thoughts about the subject but I gotta agree it's also risky for us criminals. Another factor is I don't wan't to listen to someone complaining about problems clearly caused by weed and insisting they don't have a problem. Well I'm also too anxious to do shrooms or even smoke now so...

>>10572195
Big boobied lolita here. Don’t do it. Brand blouses are pretty much impossible to find in my bust size and I’m very small everywhere else which makes it frustrating. So then my option is taobao blouses which then look like shit and are baggy everywhere except the bust.

Give me the real juicy confessions. Do you guys wear your headdresses with the brand tag facing forward or back.

>>10572122
Nayrt but this past year I found out I have 30D because of a-bra-that-fits (which has actually been so nice for getting comfy bras) and literally have only ever been made fun of for the size of my teeny boobs. I'm assuming the root shape of yours is different because I still look flat as fuck unless I intentionally wear a tight shirt or add some socks. Without a bra on my chest looks like tiny lil man boobs.
I'm not a femcel but I think I'm kinda ugly without makeup. I've been in relationships more than I haven't been since the end of college, but I'm only ever complinented on my ass or being good at sex.
Lolita is the only thing I've ever been able to purchase right off the rack and have it look right on my body. All western brands look huge and baggy and now AP is starting to make their prices larger too, it honestly bums me out and makes me feel like shit about my body again, like before I started wearing lolita.

Sage for blog I guess.

I have a vomit fetish, i rarely do it myself because i don't wanna ruin myself and i don't wanna risk getting some in my hair or on my brand (or non brand for that matter). JAVs ruined me and i'm a different person now. I wish i stayed on the cute bright fun side and never discovered the dark underworld of fucked up porn. I don't even always masturbate i mainly just watch, almost hypnotised by those girls puking on each other, eating their own vomit or making themselves vomit. One of my comm friend almost saw my no-no folder on my laptop last meet when we gathered around it to watch something.
Why am I like this gulls? How do I get out of this? I'm making myself sick

>>10574720
>making yourself sick

Lol literally

Maybe take a break from porn? Idk? It might help. Delete that damn folder for for starts and do some soul searching

>>10574720
you seem to have developed a fetish from trauma. Maybe you should see a therapist or at least quit watching porn for a bit. I used to be into hardcore bdsm as a coping mechanism from abuse but I'm more vanilla now and aren't into that fucked up shit (ever since I quit watching porn, didnt do worksheets but did see a counselor for a while about my trauma)
Hardcore and messed up stuff often is thrown at teens and/or young adults because often they wont know how to process something and understanding on some level that they have little rights/options they will often absorb it as something desirable sexually. It's why girls that are hypersexual in their tweens/teens often get assigned social workers by schools; it could be a sign of sexual abuse that is being coped with through such attitudes or behavior.
I know you may have wanted to hear something else, but you may be traumatized and spending time away from your "trigger" (idk if this is the right word) could help you rebalance from this thing.

You're going to be okay, you just need to quit porn for a bit and maybe try doing some dbt worksheets or something for people with addictions or trauma. Sorry to get all serious on you, but yeah.
https://www.therapistaid.com/therapy-worksheets/substance-use/none

if i have to hear 'nunlita' one more fucking time i swear to god i will exorcise these bitches. nun or habit inspired wear is beautiful and i love to wear it, but 'nunlita' sounds fucking stupid. that and most of the self proclaimed 'nunlitas' are ita as all hell