/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10574345
Says “people get what they deserve” in her own post crying about how unfair it was that she got banned.
They sure do kek

>>10574388
Whomest (if she's banned does it matter if name drop?)

>>10574447
Oh shit ignore my dumbass, I had no idea this was the same person as restyle skirt chan. Wtf

>>10574345
Can someone gice me a rundown of what's up with this chick? Just came back to the lolita community after a massive hiatus, so I'm completely out of the loop.

>>10574502
Check previous thread but tldr: tried to resell a restyle skirt for like $150 when it’s $40 and restocks often enough. Got called out so she kept raising the price and acting like an insufferable twat.

>>10574316
As retarded as she is, I really get the feeling she truly thinks she's polite. Yet she hasn't posted a single comment without insults in it. Her mind works in such mysterious ways it's just barely believable. I wonder what her version of being rude is tho.

>Second, most of my prices are below retail. Not by a lot, but usually slightly below.
>Fourth, I have to pay seller's fees. Which means, the site takes 10-20% of my sale. So if a dress retails for $65, and I sell it for $80, I'm only getting $64 from that, below what the actual dress cost.
>I generally price my items higher to keep people from making me insultingly low offers.
I repeat:
>I generally price my items higher to keep people from making me insultingly low offers.
She just completely ruined her entire (already retarded) logic on the LM listing kek

Also:
>I sold a purse for $150 today, a pair of shoes for $80 yesterday, 2 dresses + a jacket for $200 the day before
So she didn't sell a skirt lately? As expected, she's not only retarded but also a liar.

Also, nice extra on assuming people just hate her because they're fat
>Anyway, I'm pretty sure this bitch was so salty because nothing in my items would actually fit her.

She's the only one everyones laughing at, but she really seems to believe she's so cool and the rest of the internet is just so dumb. It's pathetic.

>>10574521
How stupid is she? I would think the main reason she got banned is for having 1 million non-lolita items and calling people ugly whores. It’s not even that she priced a dress high, lots of people overprice

>>10574316
>dumb useless whore

The way this grown woman throws around the words "slut" and "whore" so frequently is giving me major middle school flashbacks. Literal pre-teen bully vocabulary.

I think she’s emotionally stunted. Got her first “real job”, as she calls it, at 32. Types and acts as cringy and edgy as I would expect from a 16 year-old... in 2006.

>>10574521
It's funny how on her blog one moment she claims she prices below retail and acts like she doesn't try to make money, when 2 days earlier she posted a blogpost about how she spend 20 dollar on a bag she could flip for 200~300 dollar. She can't even be consistent for a few days.

Also the rant about how she's totally not a porn start because the picture has no lip ring. Like, I don't care if it's her or not, but you can take piercings out. Not wearing a piercing ain't proof.

I'm losing my shit, gulls. I updated my PayPal email address and it made me become unverified on LM (why the fuck is that even a thing). An auction for my dream dress is ending tomorrow and I don't know if the issue will be fixed in time for me to be able to bid. I want to cry.

>>10574773
Message the mods via the Facebook page, they seem to be more responsive there.

>>10574773
>>10574780
It seems like they removed all of skirt-chan's non lolita listings so there's at least 1 active mod who's doing something. If you've already emailed I would reach out on fb like the other nonny said. Good luck!

>>10574560
The ^^ shit does it for me.
You’re spot on with the teenager from 2006 comparison

>>10573759
Damn anon, I wonder if we bought from the same seller. I also bought something from a Southeast Asian seller and gagged when I opened the package. It was like BO mixed with stale cigarettes and SEA cooking. I've washed it at least three times but can't bring myself to wear it still.

>>10574817
I will never understand why smokers or people who hang around them legitimately think that shit doesn't linger on their clothes. I know in Asia it's hard to avoid (like in most parts of Japan outside of Toyko, which has only been less smoking heavy to prep for the Olympics), but people must forget anyone can smell that shit.

>>10574819
I used to smoke. Thank god I quit years ago, but I never noticed it was bad until I quit. I knew it smelled, but I’d use lots of perfumes, baking soda, scented detergents, etc. and thought it wasn’t that bad. After I quit I could smell it so strongly, and I knew others must have too, I got embarrassed for past me. But at the time, my sense of smell was fucked from smoking and my addiction to it made me make excuses for it.

>>10574819
AYRT. The cigarette smell was secondary compared to how bad the BO and the curry smell was, if that tells you anything about how gross it was. Never buying from there again.

>>10574817
White vinegar is my cure all and I’ve never had it damage any of my dresses. I’d rather smell like a potato chip than a port-a-potty/ashtray/free hugs creep at the convention

>>10574829
Yikes. Hopefully you were able to get the smell out.

Speaking of BO, whichever anon reccomended the kosas AHA deodorant for non staining good deodorant, thanks! I just bought it and am testing it after seeing some positive reviews online.

>>10574819
Smokers pretty much lose their sense of smell and taste over time, and they definitely become immune to noticing smoke smell. My idiot brain even made me like the smell of cigarettes when I dated a smoker, and I’ve heard others say the same thing (like their dad smoked so they associated the smell with him and like it). Now that I don’t live with a smoker that shit reeeeks to me again

>>10574831
If you are a pack a day smoker you just smell like a nicotine addicted potato chip anon.

>>10574833
My dad used to smoke and quit for my brother and I; he also got sensitive to the smell and could no longer live with family members who did smoke because of it.

I do know some people find cigarette smell hot, I think it's more of a fetish or just an emotional trigger for a particular person they already like than just the addiciton. Like how some people find certain perfumes or cologne very attractive. For example, I love sweet, citrus, or mint scents, so when my bf uses his dollar shave club shave butter that fresh scent is really nice to me and exciting.

Is there anything more annoying than a buyer who asks for a payment plan after they’ve already bought the listing? I don’t think there is.

>>10574839
My dad used to smoke three packs a day and didn't stop until it started to interfere with his breathing on cross-country runs. :/

Nevertheless, I love hearing stories like yours, anon, it's reassuring to know there's people that put their kids' well-being first.

>>10574560
I don't know the context or who this is but the secondhand cringe is high. Who is this and why and how are they in lolita?

>>10574868
Lurkmoar newfag

>>10574868
Just read the old thread linked by OP. How lazy.

>>10574852
nope I just cancel the sale

>>10574852
I love it when they do that, but for an item under $150

>>10574564

.....I don't even get what a lip ring has to do with a porn star. Are people comparing her to an actual known porn star, because it's just weird that we're identifying people's professions by their piercings now.

>>10575000
In a blog post it seems like she pissed someone off and as a vendetta they posted a bunch of her pictures to a porn site. Yikes.

She's so fucking milky, I can't even. I'm currently wading through the swamp collecting caps for your viewing pleasure.

>>10575000
In her blog she claimed someone tried to out her as porn star but the porn star isn't really her (according to her, I really don't care enough to check). Part of her reasoning why it can't be her is that said porn star doesn't have a lip ring and she does. Acting like the person's trying to out her is completely retarded for it, because apperantly she thinks wearing a piercing or not proves identity like it's some unchangeable characteristic and not a piece of jewelry that can be removed at any given moment.

>>10574560
What is this platform ? Read x times I’ve never seen it before now. I don’t use social media very much.

>>10575025
Someone linked it in the old thread mentioned in the first post if you're interested.

FYI, those numbers are inflated. I was bored and tested it out, all of the "Read X times" are just a generic page hit counter. When you view the blog by the month it adds a hit to all of the posts of that month regardless of if you've actually read/scrolled down to it or not.

>>10575027
*And if you refresh the page it counts it as a view for every post

>lives with her family
>got first job at 32
>has a shopping addiction
>proudly boasts about how business minded she is basically scalping people
>compares her relationship with her dom bf to that of Persephone/Hades from Lore Olympus and Harley Quinn/the Joker
>posts drawings of herself and bf as animals and in care bear suits
(desu, it's cute and wholesome but still cringey)
>complains about how rude and terrible others are to her, but is pretty rude and terrible herself
I have a feeling most people are just there to watch the train wreck unfold.

>>10574345
I am surprised people ask so much for Ghost Night Bride. When I was in Japan CC often had them instore for prices below 17000yen. I got my JSK for 12000yen I believe.

>>10575032
i'm a pink/sax APfag only, but for some reason ivory ghost night bride calls to me. the cut and print are just really cool desu

>21:16 Mar 12 2021
>you know what I don't like doing? Wasting my time on people I don't like. It just doesn't make sense.
Whoever it was who made a profile on the blog site just to comment, would they mind doing a nonny a favor and comment:
You say that but you've written blog posts about many of your negative buyer interactions and looked down upon and complained about people from the BDSM, VR and lolita community who don't agree with you. There's nothing wrong with wanting a place to vent, it's definitely therapeutic, but you sound super hypocritical and not self-aware when you say these things.

>>10575037
Your will is done. Little side note than the time stamp changes on local time of your location, for me it doens't say 21:16 so I had to search your quote with ctrl + F. Good to know if you want to refer to a blogpost.

Also, since this is a throw away account on a throw away email (that never received the verification mail somehow) anyone can access to troll her for all I care. I'm certainly not going to keep relaying message. As funny as her patheticness is to read up in my free time, I do have a life.

Beside, imagine how mad she's going to be if she thinks a person has an enourmous amount of time to spend on her, while in reality it are multiple people.

username: topkekanon
password: topkekanon123
>strongest security

Also thank you whoever rated this account with a 10. Much appreciated.

>>10575040
Kek, thanks anon!

>>10574819
Can confirm the other anon saying that smokers become desensitized, my parents were smokers since I was a baby. Smoke smells stick to fucking everything, even if you stick a dress inside a wardrobe and never wear it near a smoker, just being inside the house with one or more is enough for the smell to stick. Even things that are perfectly stored away in drawers will have that slight hint of cigarette. If you smoke on top of your dress fuck you, but if you just live with a smoker you should always do the bare minimum of keeping the clothes away from smoke and when selling always clean them thoroughly.

>>10575040
honestly guys this is full-blown retarded to do. She tried to shill, she got ripped on a new asshole in every lolita space. When you follow her outside those spaces, now you're the crazy one.

>>10574560
This isn't even a real job. It's 'her own business'

>>10575116
lmao I wonder how much taxes she pays on her totally legit "business"

>>10575111
Not really. People have kept up with cows since CWC.

>>10575123
>People have done it for a long time therefore it's not retarded
wut

>>10575111
Yeah, it’s beyond beating a dead horse now. Some of those comments on lm were so cringe, and then following to another platform? What are we all unemployed salt hags?

>>10575126
4chan really isn’t the place for you if you have such an issue with that kind of behavior. It’s basically a staple of this site, and trying to argue against it here only makes YOU look like a whining sjw retard

>>10575127
>What are we all unemployed salt hags
I mean did you look at the flies swarming around her pile of shit listings?

>>10575128
Ah yes, however will I survive looking band to some rando scrote online lmao

>>10575131
Did you have a stroke while writing this?

>>10575130
I mean what is cgl if not just a bunch of poop flies Tbh?

Can’t believe there are so many newfags here complaining about the time honored tradition of milking cows

>>10575136
eh there's a dif between milking cows, and running around trying to squeeze every last bit out of someone that's at best, lolita adjacent. seems a bit desperate to me.

>>10575040
This is fucking stupid anon. Literally who cares THAT much?

>>10575137
Nothing has been done to this cow that isn’t done to every other cow that’s on the farm. I’m tired of people bitching about this, it just shows how new you are.

>>10575139
weak old hag anon.

>>10575139
Maybe go find a crypt to go cry in oldfag

>>10575139
Eh, so what? The farm is dead

>>10575139
Let the old traditions fail lmao

>>10575142
>>10575140
You have almost the entirety of the internet to try and be an SJW, why come here to try and force it on a website who’s culture has been the antithesis of that since it’s birth?

>>10575139
>I’m tired of people bitching about this
poor triggered snowflake. Imagine being this upset that people don't really care to cyberstalk someone in their natural habitat. If she's on LM or in lolita spaces she's fair game. But I've got zero fucks for what she does on her own miniscule blog spaces.

>>10575146
And there is is lmao. Fucking snowflake

>>10575149
>her own miniscule blog spaces.
This. Like honestly? I've got better things to do with my time, like shit on people in the Ita thread and shit stir in my slowly reactivating comm.

You retards can reeeee about it all you want but you’re not going to change other people keeping up with cows

>>10575139
Yeah but things change. I really don’t have an appetite for milk outside the comm. and it’s been painfully clear from her first listing that she’s not a Lolita and knows little to nothing about the comm/lingo.

>>10575153
kinda seems like you're the ree anon

>>10575157
You clearly don’t even know what that word means, newfag.

>>10575136
Cow tipping is not milking.

>>10575159
pathetic lmao. Fucking old hags

>>10575159
I’m getting serious scrote vibes

>>10575159
NTA but ur def the reeee-er here. Getting so triggered by the fact that most of us really don't care about what this ho does outside of the community this board is based around makes you look unhinged.

>>10575163
This is my new fave part of cgl, old bitter cunts getting triggered by the shift in culture. Stay with the times you old fucks. You’re turning into the cgl equivalent of those nursing home folks who call Asians orientals and still have a paper phone book.

>>10575163
If you all didn’t really care there wouldn’t be so many replies sperging out about defending this one cow

>>10575167
I don’t think anyone gives a fuck about this specific cow one way or the other, why so triggered anon?

>>10575173
If you don’t care about this girl then it comes off as you’re worried you’ll some day get the same treatment and want to prevent that. Don’t be milky and it won’t happen

i don't really understand what this slapfight is about, but i do know that talking about an individual for more than a few posts belongs on the farms, not /cgl/.

not quite sure what the mods on this board are doing. it's stated explicitly in our board rules. i agree the woman is a cow but this isn't the place for it. this has recently been allowed for other people of interest too like PM, lor, SS, etc. lolcow exists and is built/moderated for that kind of thing. talk about it over there or stop shitting up /cgl/ please.

>>10575181
Tell that to Lor and her fucking Mia lock. This community def needs better self regulation about what is and isn’t appropriate retaliation.

>>10575184
This.

>>10575185
*misclick Jesus siri

>>10575185
To be fair, that whole situation was mostly just A and WF sperging about lor and people jumping on the bandwagon because they were afraid of looking racist for disagreeing with A and WF

>>10575187
True, but I feel like the community was really shit at self regulating that bullshit.

>>10575190
All the internet is bad at regulating that kind of stuff because of cancel culture. If you dare criticize a POC you are immediately dogpiled

>>10575191
Not necessarily the internet, the comm itself. There’s a difference. Throwback to that girl getting banned over defending Tyler in her local comm.

Weirdly, cgl has been doing some decent self regulating lately, and Tbh I’m here for it.

>>10574560
Everything about this feels like a screencap of an Angelfire page from 2003.

>>10574345
Imagine thinking an offbrand can resell for a higher price than it was originally sold for..

Diamond Honey is not THAT good.

>>10575126
>>10575144
Does this mean we can finally stop having ita threads, especially since it devolves into people reposting ita throwback pics, the same arguing, nitpicking and vendettas

>>10575208
>Diamond Honey is not good.

>>10575230
There are some cuts and prints that are OK.

>>10574505
It's just science!

>$50 BIN
>annoying lowball haggling
>change BIN to $65
>item bought at BIN price not long after

>>10575138
>Literally who cares THAT much?
How don't you get that the point of giving the login is that I don't care enough to keep it up, so now anons like >>10575037 can do it themselves with little effort instead of requesting me to do it? Milking this cow obviously is still fun to some, I personally really don't mind reading more of this cow's stupidity, unless something better comes up.

>>10575002
>>10575024

Huh. Thanks.

Somehow I'm not really surprised at the retarded reasoning, she seems like she doesn't logic well.

>>10575230
I was super impressed with mine desu

>>10575330
Yikes. Says a lot about you in one sentence.

>>10575284
>Milking this cow obviously is still fun
Imagine being that pathetic. It’s quarantine not an internet induced comatose state.

>>10575331
NTA but I think anons might be confusing diamond honey with honeyhoney. Honey honey is A+ 10/10 would recommend. Diamond honey is shit.

>>10575284
Lmao someone doesn’t like being called out for being a fucking boil on the butt of egl. kek.

>>10575334
I’ll second honey honey. That bear jsk weighs a ton.

>>10575334
>>10575337
See now Honey Honey is a different story. Diamond Honey....lord have mercy on that Forever 21 of a lolita brand.

>>10575338
I do like the snow dome jsk that I bought that’s often tagged as diamond honey, but it’s not clear who the og brand behind it is. Maybe the fabric is commercial? To Alice has the same print.

>>10575160
Based

>>10575338
It's sad cause I am sort of interested in one Diamond Honey dress print (the chocolate bear one that comes up a lot) but when I tried them once before the item was such poor quality I knew it would never look good in person and gave up.

Dirty muppets is at 70,000 yen, may the best gull win.

Idc if it's new or not... $35 for a shein blouse???

>>10575740
The concept of loliables needs to die. Having tulle lace does not make this cheap normie stuff suitable for lolita.

>>10575620
Closed at 111,000, well done.

Why do people list items for insanely high prices and then just never drop them, even after months of not selling?

I'm not really talking about one thing in particular, but I've had a bunch of random items on my watchlist, that I've seen sitting there for months without the price ever lowering. I've tried making offers on items at a lower price but it seems like folks just aren't budging.

>>10575964
The right buyer will come by. It's just science!

>>10575741
The concept is fine. You actually CAN find stuff outside of lolita that looks great with lolita. The issue is that anything with even the slightest whiff of cute and a low price tag sends no-taste, mouth breathers into a tizzy. You have to actually know what you're looking for before you started digging through normie and other various kei shit.

>>10575964
The owner probably paid a high shipping or SS fee or got hit with customs. It's not new so stop your bitching.

>>10575964
I do this. Tbh on the rare occasion I list something I know the price I want for it already. Some people need the sale, either for cash or for closet space. Other people only sell when they want to. Tbh I really don’t care if some of my listings never sell, I only list them when I feel bad for not wearing that dress in like 3 years.

>>10575996
I honestly don't think shipping, SS fees and customs should be represented in the price. Half the time the buyer will have to pay those too (beside SS fees). By that logic all items become infinitely more expensive by every sale because the item is shipped so many times and possibly changed continents so often. Even worse I see it done half the time on items that are still in stock at the store for new, causing it regularly to be cheaper to buy it new than used. It's just dumb.

If it's for sale still sell for around or somewhat below new value or at least make sure I don't get the brand new thing for 5 bucks more, if it's older sell for market value. There is no reason a buyer needs to pay for the fact you needed to ship it across half the planet, especially not when they need to do the same.

>>10576517
Ugh poorfags and their logic.... I couldn’t roll my eyes any harder rn.

>>10576440
It’s the same for me most of the time. I really don’t care if the dress I’m selling is trendy at the time or not, if it’s in new condition I’ll never drop below retail.

>>10576517
Then don't buy it. No one is forcing you to.

>>10576517
I mean just don’t buy it then if you don’t like the price?

If the buyer agrees to pay the price then they’ll do so

>>10576517
I agree. You're paying shipping to you, when you ship it to a new person they are paying the fee to receive it, they shouldn't have to recoup the cost you spent on shipping. That's stupid. The shipping price is an independent fee for a service each person is receiving. It has nothing to do with the cost of the garment. Thus isn't a business transaction, it's a hobby. Idc what people charge for something, they should value the garment itself however they like but the shipping they paid shouldn't be a part of the equation because it simply makes no sense.

>>10576536
Just say you’re poor and go

>>10576545
It's ok to be stupid. My point wasn't to garner a lower price. If you believe your dress is with 10k fine, go for it. Just don't pretend that your shipping cost is logical to include in the base garment price.

>>10576550
NTA but shipping can easily go to $50-60 abroad. I'm not fucking eating that cost so some poorfag can feel like they have a good deal.

>>10576517

That's not how it works. Someone wants to sell a dress and prices it at $x. If you give her the money, she'll give you the dress. If you don't want to pay up, she won't give you the dress, and the two of you can deal with your lives whichever way. She can either lower the price or hoard the dress, those are her problems, not yours. As for you, what are you gonna do, report her to her homeroom teacher for not following rorita rrrrules?

In this thread some anon just asked why a seller would price a dress high, and another anon guessed a reason. There's no "should" or "should not" in this scenario to begin with.

>>10576517
>>10576536
I agree. It's no longer market value if you're inflating the cost because you wanted to pay an ss instead of buying it yourself or ship with the most expensive method because you wanted it in two days.
>inb4 just don't buy it
I don't. Your shitty practice is still shitty.

>>10576564
I'm reading this in Judge Judy's voice and it's making my day.

>>10576573
Facepalm for the samefag. C'mon nonny you can do better than that.

>>10576440
It's fascinating how some poorfag anons have no concept of not NEEDING to sell something. I've got some classic I'm gonna sit on until the market bounces back that substyle. I'm not going to lower it just to get a quick sale when I know full well in 2-3 years it would be snapped up as a bargain.

>>10576573
Okay Ali/Gnomie/whichever loud poorfag you are

>>10576586
>not checking the post count

>>10575964
Sometimes you want more space but don’t really want to sell anything. Thus my logic often is, this dress is worth x to me and anything less than that isn’t worth the extra space. Not everything can be easily replaced, I have serious seller’s regret on a few things

>>10576517
Customs is high as fuck where I live and I want to break even at the very least if I sell a dress. I don't care if you don't like that nonny.

>>10576587
Yeah I typically sell things when I don't wear them but don't care if I need the money. If I am at the point that a few hundred bucks once in a while makes or breaks my budget I'd have bigger problems than items not selling on LM.

>>10576655
>I'd have bigger problems than items not selling on LM.

Maybe that's why there are so many deranged people on LM. Some people seem to forget that auctioning off your belongings online in a panic to just barely make rent every month is not employment.

>>10576669
I'm sure they're employed but just spending their money poorly.

It's interesting; I really love lolita and always dreamed about having a better job to buy more burando, but right now, I have a decent paying job and I haven't worn lolita in a while and am just buying small brand accessories and the occasional MTO.

I hope people who have less money and are coping with their problems using lolita see the bigger picture and realize they don't have to wear the latest print or own the status pieces of their specific substyle to feel good. It can seem like something is the most important thing in the world when you can't have it, but once you can easily, you learn to just appreciate it at a more reasonable level than being a slave to hype.

>tfw start listing a couple of things for sale
>suddenly get a PM from a rando saying they know my wardrobe and ask if i'm selling a specific list of pieces

Jesus christ. I'm not even efamous and have less than 1k followers on IG. I just feel violated

>>10576714
this is probably why anons won't post their wardrobes on here.

>>10576714
Something like this has happened to me too. Ever since spring of last year people have been a lot more openly stalkery on lace market

>>10576714
I had to stop taking proof pictures in front of my open closet because I would get messages from people wanting to buy the dresses they saw in the background

>>10576671
>I hope people who have less money and are coping with their problems using lolita see the bigger picture and realize they don't have to wear the latest print or own the status pieces of their specific substyle to feel good. It can seem like something is the most important thing in the world when you can't have it, but once you can easily, you learn to just appreciate it at a more reasonable level than being a slave to hype.
This is something that has always bothered me, especially with newfags/poorfags. You don't NEED the most hyped AP print. If you sincerely just want to be in lolita, you'd be content just being there and having something you like. There's so many other options in the same style that AP is cranking out. Buy those if you can't get the hype prints for whatever reason.
Will you get less instagram likes? Probably. But if you're after instagram likes then you're into lolita for all the wrong reasons. And you're treating lolita like you would fast fashion, where whatever the trendiest thing is, is the only thing that you are "allowed" to wear. Despite lolita having a culture where a dress from 2001 an be just as in the style as a dress that dropped that day.
Be content buying things that make you happy outside of any one else's approval or any kind of clout.
Also people who swing hard the other way and try too hard to be NOT LIKE OTHER LOLITAS are another kind of cringe.

>>10576723
such a bitter take. can't people just be enlightened about the cuteness of a certain substyle by seeing someone else make inspiring coords on social media? and the more people are posting it, the more likely you are to see a coord that resonates with you. it's not always about trying to earn likes.

>>10576727
How is this a better take?
There's more to the sweet substyle, even 2010s sweet substyle, than than hyped up AP prints.
If you like that substyle, there's other options than the most popular prints.
Baby and meta put shit out in that substyle. Taobao shits out that substyle like taco bell diarrhea.
Its more bitter to be mad thay you have FOMO and ree about not having AP's milky dreamy kitten fart OP because someone else had it on a popular tiktok video.

>>10576731
Baby and Meta's releases have never been similar to 2010 AP sweet. If you're going to try and make a point, at least don't be glaringly wrong.

Also, your consistent line breaks after every sentence have made me identify you in multiple threads and you've been a dumbass in each of them.

>>10576732
NTA but
>consistent line breaks after every sentence
>assuming they're the only idiot who types like that
It's time to take your meds.

>>10576736
It's a small, slow board. Same typing same opinions, same distaste for grammar because they're ESL. It's not rocket science.

>>10576731
if someone wasn't previously into the style, but a certain coord convinced them, then they're probably going to want that specific print. just because i liked a toy print doesn't mean I'm going to want a bunch of cake and donut crap.

>>10576517
Poorfags sure are bitchy over the stupidest things. If she can sell it at a higher price then why wouldn't she?
If it doesn't sell then she will have to suck it up and relist it eventually at a lower price.
I just leave some stuff up on LM at the price I'm willing to sell it for. I'm not chuffed if it doesn't sell, I don't need the money that desperately so I'll just let it relist.

>>10576740
Nah I get that, but that isn't what I'm referring to.
There's a whole wave of newbies and poorfags who only want the currently hyped AP prints and stubbornly refuse to get alternatives and instead bitch about it all day on FB.
Having a dream dress is different than only wanting the most popular things ans complaining that its hars to get and lolita is too elitist.

>>10576722
Same. So obnoxious.

>>10576631
Anon that's some of the laziest same faggery I've seen since wndercunt WK'ing herself. Time stamps don't mean shit if you've got a smart phone.

>>10576714
This is the next step up from, "hey I saw you bought x dress z years ago, remember me when you wanna sell it" type of fucking messages. I don't care how politely it's worded, it's fucking creepy as shit.

>>10576760
I do remember them, and make to put them on a blacklist in case I do sell it in the future.

>>10576732
. . . but I also do it

>>10576760
Purely curious do people still get those? It’s been a few years since I have, but I stopped being active online.

>>10576783
Nta but I get at least two every month on IG and LM

>>10574521
Kek, all of these excuses sound exactly like what you hear here for the past year.

>>10576758
Okay. Believe what you want.

Jesus fuck what happened to cgl? Where do all these ultra sensitive "t-the """tea""" is dry now please s-stop!" flakes come from?

>>10575160
This is neither cow tipping, nor is cow tipping a rule on /cgl/.

>>10576631
you mean poster count?

>>10576867
something is wrong with you.

>>10576868
they're just white knights trying to pretend the milk isn't actually milky. they're all over the farm. it's a pretty common tactic.

>>10576558
>makes a fuss about 50 bucks but spams poorfag at everyone at every chance they get
Everytime, without fail.

>>10576530
I don't, but that doesn't make my opinion non-existerend or making others pay for your fees unrelated to the item any better.

>>10576564
I heard a lot of people say over the years that they add fees and shipping cost in the price trying to make up for it. I find it dumb a way of thinking. By that logic all dresses will only every increase in price instead of get a market value because everyone has shipping feed to some extend, and possibly some other fees as well. Since that doesn't happen, it seems only a limited group does this. That limited group has a dumb practice.

>>10576647
So it is for me, one of the highest in Europe, still think it's shitty. It's not my issue you import stuff to a country with high fees. I don't care you don't care. It's still dumb reasoning.

>>10576741
I'm not mad at selling at a price that sells even if it's high.. I'm saying it's dumb to make try to make other pay for your fees that are not related to the items value because everyone will have some kind of fee at least so that would endlessly heighten the price to infinity, and it's not the buyers business you live in a place with high shipping or custom fees.

There is a difference between thinking a reasoning is dumb and thinking all high prices are bad. I hate this reasoning, I don't mind high prices in general.

>>10576880

That's what I'm saying, anon. So what if it's a "dumb practice"?

Seriously. What's the difference between someone who priced their dress high because of SS fees, and someone who priced it high because they had a dream and their God/dess told them it's a lucky number to sell at?

The reasoning doesn't matter. They want that amount of money for the dress. The only thing you do is decide whether or not you want to pay it.

Now, as for the ""fair"" argument you're pushing. The problem here is your argument only favours the buyer with cheaper prices. If the seller listed a dress at retail and you think it's too expensive, you just walk away, right? Whereas if they listed a dress at half price, then you buy it and brag about your """good luck""" afterwards, never caring that this """luck""" was some seller's loss. You have no issues if it's cheaper but you only complain about the ""dumb reason"" when the price is higher. In order to be truly "fair", you have to do better than this. Pick a logic where both the buyer and the seller both gain/lose equally from the transaction, not a one-sided one where only buyer claims entitlement to lower prices.

As for "every increase in price", that just shows your lack of logic. As already mentioned, the buyer's job is just to decide if they want to pay that price. If it's an unpopular dress, nobody will pay that much. Then the price will automatically adjust downwards because nobody wants that dress. And just as simple as that, it cancels your "every increase in price".

If the dress is popular, then with or without SS fees logic the price will be high anyway. With or without any "increase in price".

>>10576941
Nayrt, but I agree with anon. I'm thinking of the items that get sold barely after release. Not years down the road unless they are ignoring market value.

>>10576941
NAYRT, I wish the ones justifying this thought process would stop ignoring when the other side says they don't actually care about how high or low the price is. It's true that there's no way to tell, but when people explain their pricing prices on an online message board that means it's up for discussion and criticism.

I don't get why you only harp on one point over and over and ignore the others. Just because it makes little practical difference to the buyer, doesn't mean the thought process itself can't be criticized. Literally both can happen concurrently.

>>10576955

There's no difference, anon. Right after AP release Celestial, the secondhand market price, straight after release, whether you're buying from scalpers or bidding on an auction, is $1k.

You think adding SS fees mattered to that? And yes, we're talking straight after its release.

As for "years down the road", I'm not the one that brought up that "every increase in price" scenario, the other anon did. I just told her why it's retarded logic.

>>10576969

Anon my comment also explains why their ""fair"" reasoning isn't really fair as it's more favourable to one side than the other. You can discuss that further if you want?

>>10576971
Did you read what I said? I started it's true there's no practical difference to the buyer, I also it's true that you can't tell.

I worded it two different ways, I never argued that there's a difference. My argument is that you can still criticize the thought process itself.

>>10576975

Yes? And I said I criticized their criticism of the thought process as flawed? Which counts are discussion of the thought process? I'm inviting you to join in and criticize the criticism of the criticism, anon, not playing whosaidwhosaid.

Why should one side be allowed to criticize a thought process but the other side not allowed to criticize the criticism? Surely if you can criticize the thought process then I can also criticize your criticism?

>>10576978 what exactly is your criticism? It's justified because market price might be high for a particular dress? Sounds unrelated.

>>10576986


>Now, as for the ""fair"" argument you're pushing. The problem here is your argument only favours the buyer with cheaper prices. If the seller listed a dress at retail and you think it's too expensive, you just walk away, right? Whereas if they listed a dress at half price, then you buy it and brag about your """good luck""" afterwards, never caring that this """luck""" was some seller's loss. You have no issues if it's cheaper but you only complain about the ""dumb reason"" when the price is higher. In order to be truly "fair", you have to do better than this. Pick a logic where both the buyer and the seller both gain/lose equally from the transaction, not a one-sided one where only buyer claims entitlement to lower prices.

>>10576993
I'm not the anon you directed that at, nor does this address the point.

>>10576994

ok

I'm so fucking tired of ebxbexiko. Second hand Moitie gets fewer and fewer by itself, but now this annoying asshole doesn't just grab and scalp the mega cheap moitie anymore, they go for literally anything that isn't 50k and then scalp it. I wish there was a way to notify the japanese lolitas on mercari and fril, since japanese seem to be way more anal with scalpers from what I could tell from other hobbies.

>>10577099
Japanese lolitas don't care about scalpers, just foreigners.

>>10577104
I'm gonna need a source on that, because they relentlessly bullied the museum girl on one of the chanboards for it and in the doll hobby, the ones on twitter publicly shame and warn of resellers, including screenshots.

>>10577122
Wasn't she not only a scalper but a full on scam artist though?

I know I have terrible eyesight but this.... is not lavender? Or is this one of those optical illusion situations?

>>10577189
I think it's the yellow lighting but it seems like a sort of dark antique lavender (like what's labeled eggplant in pic rel), not like a pastel lavender we'd normally be talking about. If you look at the serged edges on the ruffles they're more of a true pastel lav.

Unless it's just that color from dingeyness, in which case yikes.

>sell something on LM
>have in my TOS that I only ship once a week
>person that bought the item messages me every day asking if I have shipped yet
>answer every time as politely as I can
>a few days later ship the item and message them about the tracking number
>they suddenly stop replying or checking messages
>3 days later my message on LM is still left unread
Why are people like this.

How much would you say these are worth? My best guess is 2$

I'm thinking of selling my D Walkure set, but do you think it's gone down or up in value due to the recent controversy?

>>10577805
im sure someone would be down to pay good money for it

>>10577189
Lol that looks like brown to me... The hem of the ruffles looks lighter in color than the rest of it. Maybe they tried to dye it a dark color and failed?

>>10577771
They probably looked at the message via email? I know I do that. Leading up to that though, complete batshittery.

>>10575186
learn how to type you lazy hag

>>10577805
id pay good money for it
what do you have
how are you thinking of selling it ?

>>10577884
I have the jacket, skirt, hat and eyepatch in black. Not sure where I'd sell, but I'm only considering it if I can get a big sum for it. I still like the set a lot aesthetically, but since it's a mortal sin now to wear it it's kind of just hanging in my closet.

>>10577950
you should post a feeler on here, if I were you I wouldn't even sell it off anon. it might cause drama desu

Ugh
>see dream set for a great price
>Checks seller feedback
>Comes back to listing, already sold

Wow i am KICKING myself

>>10577950
imo its a museum piece, controversy and all. I just cant justify spending that much rignt now. Covid has been tough. I am sure there are many other anons that share my love for it try the bst thread

>>10577950
You should keep it

>>10577950
Tbh I’d sell it on mercari japan. You’d get a good price and no bullshit.

>>10577958
Oh no what dress?

>>10577104
They care about scalpers and foreigners. Most sellers post in their TOS they will ban you for reselling their items and won't sell to foreigners.

>>10578111
Chess chocolate OP, KC, OTKs.

It came and went in an instant.

>>10578197
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but when they say won't sell to foreigners, do they mean shopping services or even to foreigners living in Japan? I don't live there, I'm just curious.

>>10578235
Who has Chess Chocolate as their dream dress in 2021

>>10578251
nayrt, but why does it matter to you??

>>10578246
Most Japanese sellers don't like dealing with foreigners living in Japan or shopping services so both I guess.

>>10577950
I'd buy, but not on LM, maybe even a proxy. I'd rather not have my name anywhere near the sale. It's super cute though, fuck the drama and muh-racist.

>>10578296
there are other cute dresses that aren’t fashy though... I don’t get it

>>10578235
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j712568099
Comes up on the JP market all the time???

>>10578296
I don't understand the effort and money you'd want to put in to buy a cringy Nazi kawiwi cosplay unless you're a Nazi

>>10578256
What’s your source on this? I buy from Mercari all the time as an obvious foreigner and have had no issue yet.

1/2
>>10576941
>As for "every increase in price", that just shows your lack of logic. As already mentioned, the buyer's job is just to decide if they want to pay that price. If it's an unpopular dress, nobody will pay that much. Then the price will automatically adjust downwards because nobody wants that dress. And just as simple as that, it cancels your "every increase in price".
You're missing the point completely and mix stuff up.
>buyer deciding price based on market value
does not equal
>buyer deciding price based on what they payed including their shipping and import fees

If you're pricing based on what you payed to get you're money back including shipping and import fees, which is what I'm complaining at, that does mean you don't price it to market value since you create a price based on what you payed. If you price accourding to market value, you don't price it just based on what you payed. You price it based on what it goes for on the market. These are two completely different aproaches to deciding price, my idea about one doesn't change because some people to the other. You're basically saying "your logic about X isn't correct because some people do Y". Y doesn't change X.

If you sell acourding to market value, that's great. No issue. I don't complain about that at all. If the market vallue would be 1000 dollar it's that. if it's 30 dollar it's that. Fine either way.

2/2
>>10576941
If you sell according to what you payed, calculating your fees into the price would is shitty and if everyone would do that it would end up endlessly making the price higher. Because for every sale there is a shipping fee to the buyer (and possibly import fees to). That means that if everyone would price according to what they pay, the value is increasing by every previous buyers shipping and import fees. By that logic, items become more expensive by how often they change hands instead of by whatever the market value is or how popular they are.

Some sellers literally say they base their price on what they payed including fees, so they don't sell based on the market value. Those seller I'm critising because of this. Not seller that list based on market price, nor those who list above that price because they don't really want it gone unless they get a good deal.

>>10577805
I'd be more worried about getting controversie to you being a supposed nazi for the fact you once bought it to be honest.

>>10578422
nyart but I often heard this too. Although if you're in Japan and your Japanese is good it might be a bit different it's not completely. The biggest issue I hear about is foreigners having this "buyer is king" complex regularly as well as simply different online buy/sell etiquette causing a much more difficult transaction that with Japanese people. Add to that the more difficult communication unless they can speak it/write Japanese near fluent, and the fact they want to ensure they can round of the deal quick which get's difficult with a SS or a person living abroad and you've got your reason for them not always wanting to do so.

Some more personal/smaller SS don't get caught as being a SS tho, while bigger SS are more easily recognised as such. That's why those have a higher change of being able to buy it.

>>10578438
>The biggest issue I hear about is foreigners having this "buyer is king" complex
well japan leans into that harder than in the US. the issue is that they don't give a shit about foreigners period.

>>10578347
TY anon!

>>10578251
Probably just me, it's been my dream dress for years lol. But considering how quickly it was snatched up, I guess someone else likes it too.

>>10578473
Japan, the country of no returns ever and wearing face sacks to ensure customers don't stain merchandise trying it on? Buyer is king isn't exactly what I'd call Japanese mentality, at least definitely not in the way it is in the US.

>>10578256
>>10578422
I've been buying on Japanese sites using SS for years and encountered about 4 instances of the sale being canceled (4 out of 100's of purchases). I think those sellers recognized the SS's username and knew it was for a foreigner.

>>10577122

what's the link to the japanese lolita chanboards?

>>10578422
I live in Japan and buy off Japanese sites? It's not that fucking deep hahah. Some profiles explicitly state that scalpers and foreigners should not buy that persons listing.

>>10578477
even without accepting returns, most stores are extremely good to customers, going above and beyond which is why brand loyalty is such a huge concept. they try to make it so people won't even need to consider returns.

>>10578745
People in Japan in general have good work ethic and preserving good vibes/social cohesion basically drilled into them from youth, that's not a concept exclusive to places that sell consumer goods and they don't go above and beyond out of fear of bad yelp reviews or Karens the way American retailers do, it's because people tend to do their best at their job/the bare minimum standard for products and services in general in Japan in higher because Japanese consumers are picky--not Karen type of picky, but will simply not buy things that aren't up to their standards. It's why no Japanese restaurant ever gets 5 stars on Google, because great experiences are just the bare minimum expectation. That isn't consumer is god culture, that's just a society with consistently high standards.

>>10578747
>People in Japan in general have good work ethic
>services in general in Japan in higher because Japanese consumers are picky--not Karen type of picky
>people tend to do their best at their job

hahahahahaha thanks for the hearty laugh anon

>>10578764
You think the country in which people literally work themselves to death or suicide is not full of people with good work ethic (in the capitalist cog in the machine do as you're told kind of way)?

>>10578769
Have you ever set foot in a Japanese company? Working long hours doesn't equal doing work all that time. If you give off the appearance that you're busy your superiors tend not to fuck with you.

>>10578778
Yeah, that's where the "cog in the machine do as you're told" part comes in. In the context of retail consumer goods being sold to customers, if you do a good job and spend a lot of time on small things for a customer your boss won't ream you.

Working hard or putting in a lot of time and effort doesn't mean inherently being productive and I never said it did. Japanese consumers are picky though. When companies need to test products for the Asian market they often enough start with Japan because of the higher expectations of Japanese consumers overall in comparison since they know if it meets their standards it will likely meet the standards of other places too. Not every company does this all the time but it says a lot.

>>10578778
Nayrt, but their standards are high for products. The exception being software.

>>10578780
Idk if web and some graphic design falls into that category too, but I see some jank ass websites or flyers or ads for so many places in Japan sometimes like universities, companies, etc. Sometimes and it surprises me because I know Japan has people who are great with graphic and visual design and super creative.

>>10578781
That’s because Japanese language doesn’t translate into software coding very well. People have to basically be almost fluent in a different language syntax Innoway that’s linguistically difficult for them. I don’t think I’m explaining it very well because I’m not a coder, but I’ve read articles on the subject because I lived there 8 years ago and all the websites were like early 90s tier. It was basically impossible to use any website to get things done, I even had to pay my phone bill in person at the store every month. Also the printed alphabets don’t really work with the idea of fonts. You can make it bigger or smaller or a different color, but you can’t really use a bunch of different fonts and italics and stuff which is why their webpages just have a fuck ton of the same looking text everywhere in different colors. I don’t know, that’s how it was explained to me

>>10578476
I have it as a low-key dd too, but I‘m very picky about cut and color. Don’t worry, it will come again! Chess Choco isn’t that rare and usually sells for cheap when it does pop up.

>>10578781
i mean they're still using poster boards and fucking peeling stickers off to reveal information on their news and current affairs tv programmes, they're hardly at the cutting edge of CGI or graphic design

>>10578841
In print, books, clothing, etc. There is clearly lots of Japanese talent in graphic and visual design, it just doesn't seem to end up bleeding into corporate stuff or websites. And there are lots of apps with good design somehow but not as many websites. Maybe it's easier to make apps look good than desktop sites?

>>10578246
Buyee are partnered with Mercari for international purchases but a lot of items aren’t available and say “this item does not ship internationally”, so some sellers definitely don’t want their items going abroad

>>10578867
Even if it says that for direct or immediate purchase through buyee, you can easily get those items with personal SS or sometimes from buyee with a normal request.

I have never seen a dress this ravaged for sale second hand, lmao (except maybe on Lacemarket, but I feel like that's easy mode). What's the worst condition you've ever seen someone try and sell an item in?

>>10578860
I've always been really curious about it, anyone got more insight/reading material on this issue?

>>10578889
Holy shit is this on wunderwelt???

>>10578901
lol yep, it's an MM dress for around ~$130

>>10578889

LM constantly tries to sell dresses with underpits stains for >200 and I just think that's sort of gross. But then again I got a similar dress for just under $200 on mercari because the seller didn't disclose it, sigh.

This dress will always make me cry though. What even happened here???

>>10578911
It looks like the dye from the lace bled very badly, from the way the color is pooled around the lace edges. But at the same time, I'm not sure what the actual color is supposed to be, so it could be fading very strangely maybe due to improper cleaning. So bad though either way.

>>10578806
No, it's because they have outdated standards and refuse to change. They also pay software devs like shit so the good ones leave the country for a bigger paycheck.

>>10578887
Oh I know, but it’s just that despite not requiring any extra effort on the part of the seller, it shows they don’t all want to sell overseas

>>10578889
>>10578901

I've seen them this bad, actually worse. I thought it was a cheap dress, then the diligent salespeople motioned that they needed to point out the stains and hooolyyyy the thing looked like someone had sprayed it over with curry or maybe fake blood that they couldn't get out.

It as at a physical location, I think Violet Blue. And seriously marked down, like it was btssb for some 2-3k yen. Actually there was a whole rack of weirdly stained dresses. I did end up buying another btssb dress that only had stains on the white lace (so I knew I could remove them with a bleach pen).

I think some of the cheaper, more damaged stuff the secondhand shops previously would not have bothered to list online is getting listed online because the covid is giving them less foot traffic.

Is this a replica? Something looks off about it

>>10579119
I think it just looks strange because of the way it's hanging. All the extra fabric is around the back of the dress. Is there other pics of it?

>>10578889
Not super egregious like this but Closetchild is trying to list this Snow Glass Dome OP as like new when it has a bunch of damage.

>>10579142
It's this listing, https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/angelic-pretty-happy

>>10579159
>>10579119
Original one def does not include those two bows at the waist.

>>10579119
I think Tyler had a frock talk or something about it
HAPPY GARDEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S07NkXgEab0&t=902s

>>10579171
She's talking about the normal waist anon.

>>10579161
The bows look like they were taken from the KC. I wonder if there's a stain under one of them. I actually don't think it looks that bad though desu.

>atrociously discoloured dress
>$275

The absolute state of LM.

>>10579233
>"I have not tried to remove any of these stains and am selling as is and leaving repair up to the buyer."

I highly doubt the discolouration on the sleeves is fixable.

>>10579119
>>10579174
The bows are definitely from the KC. They might be covering up a stain or pull or it could just be that a previous owner thought it looked cute. It doesn't look like a replica imo.

>>10579235
I think it MAY be. I got a JSK that had set-in tea stains on the front that the seller didn't disclose. I've been slowly scrubbing them out for about a week now, but they are slowly going away. I imagine getting sweat stains that intense out would be way harder though, they look really bad...

>>10579235
This has clearly been worn many times and never washed even once. disgusting.

Is this normal?

>>10579286

>>10579242
Wish the seller would at least disclose it being modified

>>10579235
Man, i was gonna buy it then i saw the yikes level discoloration :(

>>10579235
what the absolute fuck.

A Lacemarket buyer asked me if she could pay partial payment when she won the auction, I agreed like an idiot and she said she'd transfer the rest soon and pay it. It's been a week now and she hasn't sent the rest of the payment or communicated at all, despite me sending an invoice reminder. She only has one feedback, so I was hesitant about her anyway but I gave her the benefit of the doubt, we were all new to Lacemarket at one point. Should I just refund what she paid and give negative feedback?

>>10579235
I don't understand why people want to dress in light pastels when they live like bridge trolls and cannot manage basic personal hygiene and laundry. Just wear a camo tarp, Jesus.

>>10579451
Toss her a kind, but strong reminder. A couple day or so time limit for payment or that you will have to refund.

>>10579233
yikes i know who this is too

>>10579451
Always do a non refundable deposit

>>10579325
Me too, anon. Me too.

>>10579235
I've been following the fashion for 8 years but I've only recently bought my first dress! I’m glad I spent $400 on a new burando dress instead. I refuse to use LM after seeing this. Disgusting!

>>10579517
This. That way people are willing to commit and are more likely to follow through. And it deters poorfags who use payment plans on every purchase as if it's a credit card.

She is back

>>10579627
I want someone to send her a replica lmao

>>10579143
Could be a sample piece or a special set item?

>>10579640
This.

Is the Romantic Rose Letter jsk actually worth $850? I’m not going to spend anywhere near that but I do want to get the dress at some point, and would like to know the actual value

>>10579698
Nah, It pops up at around $300, but several priced in the $700 range have sold and the special set jsk goes for $150~200

>>10579627
I wonder how upset she'll be when someone tells her that dress doesn't even fucking exist.

>>10579704
Thanks. The special set is actually my top choice for it so that’s good to know.

>>10579698
I'm willing to pay $800 for the OP, but I'm not buying from the questionable LM users who always have one for sale.
For reference, I bought the sax tiered JSK from CC in early 2020 and it was ~$400 with headbow.

>>10579733
Ya I’ve seen the OP and it’s always listed quite high (makes sense since it’s quite fancy) but I’ve never seen the JSK since I started looking and wondered if it was a print that was just high all around.

>>10579764
In general it is a pricer print. Before the sweet boom recently, it was kind of a status dress. But now $400-500 seems like nothing because every older AP print is that much.
I do agree with the other anon about the special set though - I think it's considered the "worst" cut, so it's sold for maybe max $300? You're lucky if that's your preferred cut hah

So uh... how high is that Twinkle Mermaid gonna go?

I'm bored with money to burn. I'm tempted.

>>10579898
$600 min I guess

>>10579898
I’m more curious about the sax Milky Planet that ends soon

>>10579933
I really hope Milky Planet turns into the next Sugary Carnival so everyone who spends $1k on it can cry about "muh clout" when an MTO happens.

I have the yellow OP and I want other colors, but I don't want to deal with buying a dress for $1-2k with undisclosed damages.

Lol @ the person who bitched and moaned about someone putting their Magic Princess JSK up for $420- 2 people bid and it's at $500 now.

>>10579933
I'm very triggered over that situation. I went for it and am the reason it went from $300 to $800, yet I still got outbid. That other bitch did not come here to fuck around.

>>10580018
Nobody cares how poor you are. Calm down.

>>10580020
I deleted because right after I posted it, I decided to try for it again, but for the record- not wanting to shell over $800 for a dress doesn't mean you're poor.

>>10580025
Seethe harder. You’re the one who said you were “triggered” by getting outbid the first time. I hope you get outbid again.

>>10580025
Checked out your LM. Newfags like you are ruining this board.

>>10574833
Oh I think that's super normal, my first boyfriend smoked so I used to think the smell was "hot" or something because it made me think of him. I'm pretty repulsed by the smell now

>>10580012
This is hilarious. Not only would I never buy from that seller, but I have 3 different colorways of the JSK. Feels like payback for everyone hating on the print years ago

>>10580034
Its still bad imo, but the newbie lolita zoomers cant tell the difference between it and 2008 sweet. What a disgrace.

>>10580040
This is very autistic tinfoil.

>>10580040
The only critique I ever heard about it was that it looked like clipart, which I very much disagree with. Fancy Noel took the "here's some clipart we aren't even trying anymore" award. So ugly.

Magic Princess isn't Milky-Planet-tier by any means, but I really think it was slept on.
.

>>10580046
I hate that they chose pink as a colorway for this it looks so fucking ugly with the green.

>>10580046
Frillyfix’s Fancy Noel edit was gorgeous. Sometimes I’m genuinely upset that some of her fixes aren’t real.

I honestly do think Milky Planet is gonna get rereleased.

>>10580053
I agree but I don’t think it will be this year. My bet would be next. Or if it is this year, it’s a MTO to come out in 2022

>>10580053
Probably, but like the other anon said, I doubt it will be soon.

>>10580046
There's been a lot of lazy ugly shit put out by AP. Especially 2013-2019. This included.

>>10580053
Agreed, but not this year. Well, not as an MTO, at least. And big ugh at the rerelease cuts circa 2015, hopefully they never pull that shit again.

>>10580056
The bunny and bear jewelry was cute though

>>10580057
I hate hate hate the rerelease cuts. If AP rereleases Milky Planet only in those cuts I’ll die.

>>10574819
Had a coworker who smoked so bad, one time I rode in her car and I literally couldn't breathe. Had to put the windows down

>>10580059
I will scream if AP only rereleases the ugly pocket cut of Milky Planet. I honestly do not understand why people are willing to pay $800+ for it. They must be thinking "it's still Milky Planet!" The original release is infinitely superior.

On a similar note, I wanted to stab myself when AP released another Wish Me Mell dress recently and it wasn't just a rerelease of the original. It was complete trash. My dreams were crushed. I'm never going to own the original in pink.

>>10580025
Bidding on sugary carnival now that you can’t afford milky planet eh?

>>10580071
Indeed I am, anon.

>>10580068
I don't mind the pocket cut of Milky Planet but I prefer the original too. I wish modern AP would keep doing more really creative cuts that show a lot of effort into the design. 2019 and 2020 AP was hit or miss with the combo of limp poly and boring cuts.

>>10580052
Agree

>>10580034
If I were you, I would put one of them on auction and cash in on that shit.

Been on a lolita hiatus for a while and just got back, can someone explain to me why Milky Planet is insanely expensive all of a sudden? It was cheap af before- I got the yellow JSK for $250 less than two years ago. What happened?

>>10580447
Go ask the stupid questions thread, retard.

>>10580046
Seeing it in person is twice as disappointing because there's real potential there. The cut and styling was so effing cute, but the pink and sax color ways are heinous and there was so little care shown in the print.

>>10580448
Who pissed in your petticoat this morning?

>>10580327
Why be creative when you can just dupe Taobao cuts in your brand name? Legit, all of AP's recent cuts have been done by smaller Taobao brands. They scoop them up, add marginally nicer materials and call it a day.

>>10580447
LSS: Sweet boom and no real substitutes. AP rarely makes OTT sweet style, and never makes anything that nice in quality and construction, plus glitter and high end cotton. Combine that with a number of irresponsile dress owners who wrecked them when they were cheap and you've got a market where a pink one in good condition easily coud go 1k+ with the KC.

>>10580455
This was my exact thought with bear chocolatier. Those exact cuts were all over tb about a year ago.

>>10577805
Email me, I'd buy it.

>>10580470
Email me, I'd buy it from you. What colorway?

>>10577805
Email me, I'd buy it. What colorway do you own?

there's 12 btssb babydolls on lm right now and I want them all

That dream fantasy set went for $770?!? I don’t want to live in this world anymore

>>10577805

You could list it as "Unknown Meta Military Set" and only the buyer would have to worry about being cancelled.

>>10580537
This is honestly just ridiculous at this point.

>>10580057
I agree wrt the cuts but if they pass on the navy colorway I'm going to be big sad. They probably will though, I have a feeling it will only be classic colorway rereleases.

>>10580537
Top bid was $1200. Ironically gnomie was the one who bid 770 lmao.

>>10580676
My guess is it will hit $800ish. I won't be surprised if it goes up to 1k, though.

Thank god I locked that shit down when I did.

>>10580537
>>10580602
I hate this. It didn't even include the socks.
I remember when it was easy to scoop it up for $80. EIGHTY DOLLARS.

On the flip side, apparently my wardrobe just skyrocketed, yet again, in value. Too bad I'm too attached to my dresses to sell.

>>10580693
>Too bad I'm too attached to my dresses to sell
Bitch

>>10580537
There's no upper-bound on prices anymore, and it feels like we're headed towards a collector's fashion pretty soon (with AP at least).

>>10580693
>Too bad I'm too attached to my dresses to sell
Mood

>>10580537
>checks wunderwelt purchases from 2017
Please take me back.

>>10580693
>Too bad I'm too attached to my dresses to sell.
Same after seeing how high that Twinkle Mermaid already is.

>>10580693
>>10580703
And who says Lolita isn’t an investment lmao

new thread: >>10580743

>>10579627
>unopened dress, unused dress
>if the dress is clean, the dress you wore a few times is fine.
All I can see in my head is someone wearing the dress in/without removing the plastic bag in the most ridiculous ways to "keep it's value".
Also curious who even still would consider buying from her after all that childish drama she caused over a loose button. I'm not sure what she's expecting but I doubt anyone would want to deal with her now even if they have it brand new never taken out of the bag.