/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10579189
>"That’s racist.”

>>10579189
> I found this on Ali Express.

> I'd love to start but lolita is so expensive.
> Do you think I could make a coord with my skater dress?
> This is my version of Lolita
> everyone has a different interpretation
> No Concrit

>>10579189
>"I've been following the fashion for 8 years but I've only recently bought my first dress!"

>>10579189
> this is my first try at ero lolita

On sales posts
>I wish I could afford this/ I wish this was my size. :(

>>10579189
>The plus plus size is not inclusive enough!!!

>>10579189
>we need more people of color (not asians they don't count) in lolita!

>"Can this be considered lolita?"
>it's either a hot pink skater dress with unicorns or an office blouse from Kohl's

>"these shoes will be perfect for lolita!"
>it's either those Demonia boots, the Liz Lisa knock-offs from Amazon, or old and dirty oxfords

>>10579189
> I collect cat ears

>i know this isn't really lolita, but I think it looks cute!

>being against replicas is classist

>Posts an item that is $5 over retail price
>"Fucking sclapers!"

>>10579189
>AP is fatphobic
>this is a classist take, poor people deserve nice things too i'm allowed to buy a replica
>wanting me to not wear ratty shoes is ableist
>why is the community so transphobic?
>is there any POC owned lolita brands i can buy from?
>no concrit please
>this is MY way of doing lolita

>>10579189
>"Brand is too expensive"
>Buys 50$ bodyline jsk off lacemarket

>"It's an Alice in Wonderland inspired coord!"

Genuinely thanks to these threads I realized I dress/act Ita. Nonetheless, I need to know if these are ita or not because I saw them on aliexpress and I want to buy them.
Also could there be an Ita/Not ita judgement thread on this board? Did they ever exist before?

>>10579189
>Muh Classism
>lolitas are huge elitists and hate poor people
>Aliexpress is a good place to find lolita dresses

>Genuinely thanks to these threads I realized I dress/act Ita. Nonetheless, I need to know if these are ita or not because I saw them on aliexpress and I want to buy them.
>Also could there be an Ita/Not ita judgement thread on this board? Did they ever exist before?

>>10579256
oooooh good one

>>10579256
bait

>>10579260
kek

>>10579260
>>10579263
>>10579266
not bait. It's 4 dollars I know maxipad headpieces are usually bigger I just don't want to cheapen the look.

>>10579270
Are you a lolita or are you an egirl
If your an egirl do whatever you want the standard for being an egirl is so low compared to lolita

>>10579270
No, if you have to ask you can’t pull it off

>>10579272
>>10579274
loita, not egirl, thank you for answering. Yeah I think I'll try to see what the Lolita Collective has instead.

>>10579270
anon it's really not worth
u should save up for a better headpiece, u can get decent secondhand brand or even taobao headdresses on lacemarket for anything between $15 - $45 which is a big range but scavenge enough and you'll find something closer to your budget
just please don't waste your money

>>10579189
>Is lolita cultural appropriation?

>My OP/JSK is from Taobao

>>10579276
Thank you

>>10579205
i'm seeing this kind of sentiment that asians don't count as poc a lot lately, not just in lolita. it's really fucking weird. what are they, basically white now?

>>10579289
They don’t matter. The only “POC” that matter are black. Everyone else can fuck off in their eyes

>>10579189
>Angelic Pretty makes dresses for girls with no tits!

>>10579289
East asians have been a "model minority"/"honorary whites" for the past 50ish years. I think the BIPOC acronym is a good example of how american race theory divides minorities into different groups and levels.

>>10579293
Oldfags know it's actually Innocent World and their damn tube bodices.

>>10579296
Itas don't care about Innocent World they're AP hypebeasts

>>10579199
oh god meee... and yeah im pretty ita

Itas don’t like meta.

>I am a lolita at heart
>I mix drag and lolita
>it's oldschool you just don't understand
>But Dollfille and Lor do it!
>I saw a Japanese girl wearing it in Harajuku

>>10579314
Drag and lolita makes me barf

>>10579301
Ew

>>10579256
Very ita if you’re trying to be gothic lolita but i’d def wear these for a cute jfash look

>Welcome back. I’m Tyler, you’re watching scarfing scarves-

>>10579289
It's because asians make money on average than whites & therefore don't fit the "minority oppressed by racism" narrative pushed by race theory advocates.

>>10579346
Please don't give advice if you don't wear the fashion

>Many of you have been quiet about this month's SJW hot issue. WE SEE YOU. WE'LL DRAG YOU.
>Well I don't wear lolita but (insert piss poor advice.)
>I wish I could wear that :(((((((

>>10579363
I do wear the fashion, the hell are you talking about?

I’s wear those aliexpress headdresses with my swankiss clothes but not with my meta

>>10579302
fucking this

>>10579302
Truth

>>10579302
Thats true but I wonder why? Is it because meta doesn’t do as sweet prints as ap does?

>"I'm a mod of EGL Wall of Shame"

>Amazon is a great place to buy lolita. I bought my first dress off there for a great price!

>>10579388
There's certainly a meme of META BAD perpetuated by people like Tyler that noobs latch on to without ever looking at the brand.

>i need full shearing

>>10579395
Why though? Honest question, I'm not into sweet prints very much so Meta is my favorite brand

>>10579400
Honey, with bleach-fried hair like that, you sure do

>>10579402
Ayrt, simply because they only parrot the meme and never actually look at metas prints. I've talked to a lot of people who did that, but once they looked at what meta actually puts out, they realized they were missing out.
I do wear sweet and meta is still my favorite brand, taking up a third of my main pieces.

>>10579195
fpbp, actually laughed out loud

>>10579189
>HUBBA HUBBA

>>10579405
I like Meta, but their sizing is genuinely too big for me, and I'm not a skinny-mini, I'm average for a western girl.

>>10579410
I am too and it fits me fine, esp of theres corset lacing. At worst I usually just need to move buttons on a strap ot something.

>lolita has no rules

>>10579289
They say the same about Hispanic people now too

>Eeew this is the worst dress moitie ever released, too expensive when i can get a dress on taobao for $50 with satanic cupcakes :3

>>10579430
Some Hispanic people are white though.

>>10579433
The vast majority are not.

>>10579435
Not my point, some are.

>>10579440
Quit being autistic. It still doesn’t justify just not counting Hispanics as POC as a whole.

>>10579435
Hispanic isn't a race nor is being Latin
They are ethnicities. You can be black, white, indigenous, mestizo and anything in between and still be Hispanic or Latin.

>>10579410
Average in most western populations is overweight.

>>10579389
KEKEKEKEKEKE

>>10579410
Meta is supposed to be baggy and frompy depending on the era

>>10579425
Saying it has rules is also ita

Full shirring =/= plus size

>>10579189
What's an ita?

>>10579505
Oooh I get it, it's (lol)ita. Am I right?

>Why are replicas frowned upon?
>Someone posts a pattern from GLB
>Wouldn't making this be considered a replica tho?

>>10579270
If you don't want to cheapen the look, close your AliExpress tab and never look back.

>ap is fatphobic for not making the sugary carnival mto plus size so here's a petition
>baby and meta are DRAGGING ap yaaaas queeeeen
>complains about the quality of a release before its actual release date
>is obsessed with ap only yet apparently hates ap
>cis and thin lolitas need to speak up
>pretends to be woke, still blames Chinese lolitas for everything inconvenient

>Oh I like your dress but I can't fit into it
>Oh I wish I could fit into this but my BOOBS ARE JUST TOO BIG
>i dON'T undErstand whY yOu Are so SkinNY????? YOu'rE eaTing the SAMe as Me???
>WhY are AsiANS So SkINNY?


A bonus because all of this was heard at meetups, like thanks for making me feel bad for existing.

>>10579435
The ignorance hurts

> KawaiiJo is a great lolita recourse

>>10579553
Kek

>everybody can be kawaii

Shes back

>>10579558
lmao

>>10579558
beggers being the ultimate choosers

>>10579349
good one

>>10579508
ita definition: you

>>10579476
Found the ita

>>10579189
>my pronouns are (insert anything other than she, he or they)
or
>my pronouns are he/him (even though they're very obviously a girl making no effort to even pass as a male)

>>10579519
>Anonymous 03/20/21(Sat)06:19:04 No.1057
Several Youtubers have said that you can find on Aliexpress legitly. Loligals was one suggested resource.
I know you can buy Infanta off Loligals since they're a reseller but there are other things I want that I can't find on there nor DevilInspired.

Pic rel, I just want a lolita blouse that is made of cotton I can wear under a jsk. I get it's corduroy but I also know that cardigans are often worn with lolita so I'm looking on Ali to see if I can find anything appropriate there. And yes I saw Infanta's blouses and I don't think they'll fit Sweet.

>>10579508
No. What ever happened to lurking before posting?

>>10579576

>>10579579
I only browse /rlg/. Never seen it used there.

> All black and white coords are old school
> White blouses are ita
> Strip socks are so not lolita

>>10579581
Then fuck off back there

>>10579586
I don't see any reason why.

>>10579470
nayrt but I am petite even by asian standards and as I mentioned in >>10579411 it fits me fine. I just have to maybe tighten the lacing in the back more or move a button on a strap.
Then again, I also know what cuts fit me and what don't, so I've never bought a cut that I know would be baggy and unfixable.

>I can't wear x, I have a condishun

>>10579558
How does she expect to find an unworn and still in plastic dress that is 11 years old, let alone the fact its milky planet. People who dislike second hand to this extent confuse me

>>10579600
Some people are just crazy. I worked in a vintage/second hand shop where a woman came in demanding we show her the 'unused vintage' clothing like dresses, skirts, ect ect like those are in the back or something.
We actually occasionally obtain unused vintage clothing and they are always polyester blouses from the 70s not the perfect condition 50s dresses these people look for. The condition won't even matter becasue some people will not wear anything thats been worn before, i don't know why they come into second had shops to begin with.

>>10579529
people simply pointing out how petite you are makes you feel bad? that sounds like a you problem

>>10579623
people simply pointing out how large you are makes you feel bad? that sounds like a you problem

>>10579630
the former is framed as compliment while the latter is framed as an insult. false equivalency. they weren't calling her skelly or some shit.

>>10579633
I know this may come as a shock to you, but even things framed as compliments can be seen as insulting or demeaning.
You sound like a scrote going "Wow, I was just offering you a compliment, bitch." when he gives an unwanted comment about a woman's body and she tells him to fuck off.

>>10579189
Anything that involves calling other lolitas elitist/classist/gatekeeping for reminding them that you get what you pay for.
Itas hate when they're reminded that they're not entitled to lolita and that if they can't afford a LUXURY hobby, that's their own problem.

>>10579289
Any minority that is successful isn't considered a minority anymore by SJW logic

>>10579463
You know as well as I do that at this point most people use hispanic or latino (or if they're an SJW they'll say "latinx uwu") as synonyms for mestizo.

>>10579505
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt bc we were all newfags once. Ita comes from the Japanese community. Itai means painful, so 'ita' is a lolita so bad it causes pain.

>>10579623
nta but it makes me feel bad sometimes too , i dont eat properly due to chronic depression and i hate that people can see parts of my illness. anyways just dont comment on peoples bodies in general, it usually sounds rude no matter th intention

>my pronouns are they/them do not misgender me

>>10579658
this has nothing to do with the fashion tho

>>10579189
>"This isn't a thinspo thread."

>>10579660
nta but enbies always dress like shit and have bad haircuts

>>10579662
facts.

>>10579658
Its only ita if they start every coord post with it
>Please use gender inclusive language

>>10579662
i'd have agreed two years ago but i know one who dresses well and has a cute haircut. Maybe two if you count that chick who's obviously doing it for the attention

>>10579189
>Please no concrit
>I get all of my blouses from primark
>I can and I WILL show cleavage, don't be so prude
>Yes, this definitely fits
(while tightly squeezed into a dress that's visibly way too small)
>These demonia boots really do go with EVERYTHING
>Brand is just too expensive, I'd rather make my dresses myself

>>10579641
Ill still never know why they insist on using latinx because it’s not even pronounceable in spanish. Even actual non binary hispanics use latino

>>10579683
The same brainrot that makes them use folx even though the word folks is already unisex

>>10579662
Not just the lolita ones either; even normie enbies wear the most wretched eyesore clothing with bad haircuts, shitty dye jobs, and makeup that makes them look like a clown.

>>10579661
This would be truer if there weren't anagulls who legit try that shit sometimes.

>>10579660
Be honest, anon, have you ever seen a coord post that starts with >>10579658
and wasn't a disaster?

>Body checking alert.

>I have created a new substyle
>FUCK the rules because they're all outdated
>This is my style of wearing lolita, you can't tell me what to do
>Brands release animal ears so I might just as well wear my offbrand animal ears

>>10579673
Spoiler alert: all eNbiEs are calling themselves that for the attention (and/or because of internalized misogyny).

>>10579709
The enby label was always stupid. Gender doesn't even exist. Men and women can dress however they want. I don't know why having an ugly haircut or wearing pants suddenly makes you "not a girl".

>>10579630

It's okay, I can translate:

>>Oh I like your dress but I can't fit into it
>>Oh I wish I could fit into this but my BOOBS ARE JUST TOO BIG

translation: "okay, enough about you, now let's talk about how fat I am/how big and attractive my boobs are because otherwise I'm a landwhale"

(bonus implication: "hey your dress is your property and who knows how rare it is but if I want to I could totally get it too")

>>i dON'T undErstand whY yOu Are so SkinNY????? YOu'rE eaTing the SAMe as Me???
>>WhY are AsiANS So SkINNY?

translation: "It's not like you put any effort into working out or dieting, you were just born lucky (skinny) and woe, woe woe is my fat life."


I don't know about insulted, but there's a hefty dose of narcissism and blaming other people for their fat. Gotta be awkward to try and continue the conversation.

(obvious, but nayrt, and also I'm not skinny if that makes a difference)

>>10579623

It's okay, I can translate:

>>Oh I like your dress but I can't fit into it
>>Oh I wish I could fit into this but my BOOBS ARE JUST TOO BIG

translation: "okay, enough about you, now let's talk about how fat I am/how big and attractive my boobs are because otherwise I'm a landwhale"

(bonus implication: "hey your dress is your property and who knows how rare it is but if I want to I could totally get it too")

>>i dON'T undErstand whY yOu Are so SkinNY????? YOu'rE eaTing the SAMe as Me???
>>WhY are AsiANS So SkINNY?

translation: "It's not like you put any effort into working out or dieting, you were just born lucky (skinny) and woe, woe woe is my fat life."


I don't know about insulted, but there's a hefty dose of narcissism and blaming other people for their fat. Gotta be awkward to try and continue the conversation.

(obvious, but nayrt, and also I'm not skinny if that makes a difference)

>>10579717
ngl i do say "Oh I wish I could fit into this but my BOOBS ARE JUST TOO BIG" because its really annoying to be a small in waist and a medium in chest trust me if I had the money and the guts I would get them reduced no joke

>this is my fandom coord based on if anakin skywalker could airbend
>you claim it’s not a costume but then why are there so many rules?

>>10579757
Careful anon, sometimes this money is a waste and they can grow back.

>I'm not sure if that would fit me because I'm muscular
girl, is your double chin also muscular?

>>10579767
they what??

>>10579773
My aunt had hers reduced but they grew back so they had to be reduced a second time. This was post all of her kids so that was not the reason. Can't remember the exact cause but I remember that she was livid.

>>10579778
Nta but I was not aware boobs can grow back what the hell

>>10579717
>leddit format
newfriend pls go

Nice

>>10579772
retarded take
t. someone with actual muscles who happens to be square as fuck

>>10579576
your problem is that you're taking advice from itas. please anon. the image you linked is not a lolita blouse and would probably be very lumpy under a jsk because it's such a wide cut. the hallmarks of a sweet blouse are frills and ruffles- a lack of details inherently cheapens the look.

>>10579814
what is your PR for number of chins?

>>10579823
Would something like this work? It has little bears on the lace.

>>10579916
nta but it just doesn't look good. there's not enough detail on the bodice.

buying shit from ali is a slippery slope that a lot of young itas fall down because it's affordable/accessible. incorporating a significant item (e.g. blouse, headpiece) from aliexpress into a coord cheapens the whole thing. even worse if you're incorporating multiple. we can all tell.

>>10579969
nta but damn I would love to have that lace on another blouse.
Even if its cheap, fuck man, it's so cute I can't hate it.

>>10579978
I mean it's probably cheap and you could take it off and sew it onto a better blouse?

>>10579778
im planning to get mine reduced in a few years and that is downright TERRIFYING. lets hope my knockers don't get a mind of their own.

>>10579476
There are a million ways to break the “rules” and still be lolita. If you haven’t figured that out yet, anon is right and we found the ita.

>>10579786

I never figured out what people call leddit format and I've been here since PT threads.

>>10579772
I used to powerlift and this always gives me a hearty kek. Unless you’re >5’10 you can still fit big old triceps into jfash if you’re reasonably lean

In a similar vein
>my ribcage is too big for [insert brand]

>>10579778
that's horrifying I didn't know that was even possible

>>10579829
Only one. Cope. I have a chad chin though kek i kinda look like a tranny because of it so fuck me i guess

>>10580097
I'm 6" on top of being muscular so i'm definitely fucked. I like pirate and ouji the best though so it's not as if i tried to fit into sweetshit

>>10580094
reddit formatting. you have to double space on reddit to get single linebreaks because of the way their formatting works. i also call this "linkedin influencer format"

>>10580168
>Ugly hairline
>Huge forehead
>Wide shoulders relative to frame
>Prominent jaw/chin

If I didn't get my period I'd be worried I didn't have XX chromosomes desu. Sucks.

>>10579760
>i want to be lolita no matter what!
>no, i'm not going to listen to any advice you give me, you meanies!

Now not saying lolita has no rules. And the girls that feel the need to say it or be "original" are usually ita as fuck.

But strict adherence to rules and refusal to try new things usually results in extremely dull and boring outfits. It's a very western thing too, in japan they care much less about the "rules" and if it looks good it passes. Girls in the west really need to ditch their strict adherence mindset and realize lolita is just fashion, as long as it's cute who gives a fuck what you do.

>>10580171

.....You do double linebreaks on 4chan because it breaks up chunks of text. The sticky itself uses double linebreaks to differentiate between lists.

Anyhow. 2005 when reddit was formed would have been the right place to name it. Doing it in 2020, 15 whole fucking years after it's relevant, has to be trolling.

Thanks for confirming.

>>10580190
I mean the rules aren't really "rules"
No lolita police are going to show up to your local meet and give you a fine for wearing open toed shoes or no blouse. But you have to understand what the basic outline of this fashion is to be able to then break the rules in ways that look good and are still lolita. The "rules" differentiate lolita from just regular ol j fash and since westerners feel so entitled to everything if we don't stick to rules we end up with itas in skater dresses and cat ears saying "no I actually am lolita and I belong at this meet"

>>10580199
People have been calling it "reddit spacing" for years. Where u been, newfag?

>>10579814
>>10580169
>>10580182
Masculine women are hot especially if they're big and square. Just look at the hype for big muscle type girls in anime and media.
You're good. You don't need to be some uguu feminine anime waifu to be hot.
People need to start accepting women won't always be dainty looking and can look very androgynous sometimes.

>>10580246

Been here since 2008.

Not that I care anyway. Just troll it to death, all the good content posters already left, pretty soon it'll just be another /b with trolls trolling trolls.

>>10580255
yeah but then you get associated with mentally ill men

>I skipped my ita phase

>>10579623
Nta, but finding a fashion thats specifically tailored to fit and be flattering on my body type really did wonders for my feelings about how ugly and small I was. Having people constantly talk about how annoying it is that dresses weren't made for their giant cow tits makes me feel awkward and uncomfortable, and just reinforces how unusual my body type is in the west.
I'm just so tired of the comparisons to children. Stop brining up children's boobs please.

>>10580317
the fact that you refered to women with breasts as having "giant cow tits" says everything we need to know about you and how everyone on earth is bullying you without a just cause. Poor thing.

>>10579773
>>10579781
>>10580153
Of course they can grow back, it's like when people gain weight after liposuction and get fat again

>>10580317
if you want people to stop comparing you to a kid, you should act like an adult and stop comparing other grown woman to cows. your attitude is absolutely vile.

>inb4 wah wah okay cow tits
i'm lucky enough to have just an average chest size, don't even try.

>>10580456
Makes sense they can grow back when you think of how breast cancer can come back after incomplete mastectomies right? And your body is still making the same amount of estrogen so maybe it is just pushing itself back to homeostasis at whatever breast size that amount of estrogen typically creates.

>>10580317
As someone with small tits I think the people posting this have to be scrotes, severely autistic, or both. Most lolita aside from IW is not tailored for or flattering to small girls. A lot of dresses have minimum bust sizes of 85-90 cm which is too big for someone with actually small boobs. On the flipside, a lot of normie western brands like Brandy Melville make clothes in very small flattering cuts for small boobs and most of my normie wardrobe fits me better off the rack. It's not like having no boobs is a taboo in the west, anyone who actually keeps up with normie trends would know that the big influencers and models right now have relatively small boobs and trendy styles are flattering on smaller chests.

>>10579403
kek

>>10579349
under appreciated post

>>10580653
This, I’m in the small boobs club and most lolita dresses gape at the bust on me. I can’t really think of any garments that fit me correctly off the rack. Being compared to a child’s body gives me hella dysmorphia tho I wish that rhetoric would stop

>>10580653
85 is still a small in most brands.
that's extremely small boobs. if you have a smaller chest than that you're basically just a man at that point so lolita isn't for you.

>>10580687
>Tfw loli-chan with 82cm boobs
>Tfw moitie was made for me
>mana is male
>fuck

>>10580653
It's literally no one's fault you didn't get your hormones checked in puberty (if you went through it you could be a 10 year old for all we know) and that you continue to refuse to get them balanced. Literal transvestites can grow them by taking titty skittles. go cry to the Japanese about their boobs being too big for you to fit in.

>>10580255
>tfw no androgynous prince gf to protect my dainty damsel self

>>10580687
On paper 85 might be a small, but anyone who's ever gone shopping for women's clothing would know fast fashion brands make their clothes in very straight cuts a la IW so people often size up for their boobs. My C cup friends who are around the same size as me often have to buy M-L in tops. How would you not know this if you're a woman?
>that's extremely small boobs
Yes, we're talking about small boobs. Amazing observation, anon.

>>10580699
>shaming a small breasted woman for not being put on hormones as a child to make her boobs bigger
And people wonder why cgl has so many TERFs...

>>10580699
I'm not complaining, I'm fine with altering my clothes, I'm just pointing out how "rorita saved me because my boobs are too small for western clothing uwu" is retard logic when western clothing is catered to small boobs.
All the women in my family have A-B cups so I think my hormones are fine. Enjoy your back problems and saggy tits when you're 30, bitch.

>>10580710
Its probably just a jealous fatty lashing out because she thinks 12 buckets of KFC was "hormones"

>>10580687
>>10580699
Found the fatties

>>10580687
You do realize that not everyone has 30cm worth of back fat in their bust measurement right?

>>10580682
Maybe it depends on brand, I have a ton of issues with gaping with modern AP, but older unshirred AP and MM fits me great.

>>10580687
it sounds like you're just fat

>>10580682
Ugh same here it's depressing desu.
>>10580746
Oof fuck I must have extra small tits or something cause MM still gapes on me FML

>>10580746
Ayrt, yes I was specifically thinking of modern AP, I’m usually swimming in it. I always laugh when fatties are like AP STANS ARE FATPHOBIC like bruh have you even tried it on

Oh that’s right, you can’t. Because you’re poor.

>>10580757
Damn, sorry anon. At least adding under clothes is easier than a breast reduction in the long run.
>>10580759
Yeah. Honestly current AP is so much larger than it used to be that I don't understand how a lot of Chinese and Japanese girls are fitting in it properly.

>>10579693
Accusing someone of having an ed in public without proof is super gross

>>10579712
>>10579709
>>10579692
>>10579662
>>10579658

>>10580769
I’ve heard sizes are going up in japan this generation, may be a reason why

>>10580806
I'm none of those anons, but is it really bait if it's true? I haven't seen a single post on CoF that stressed their "them/them"-ness that didn't look absolutely terrible.

I'm nonbinary myself, but there's no fucking point in putting your pronouns when no one is going to speak about you in third person on your own post. It just feels like they're just using their gender as a scapegoat if someone points out how shitty and unkempt they look.

Being gender non-conforming doesn't give you an excuse for having shit taste.

>>10580981
This 10000000%. Gender has nothing to do with how well you dress. Also why is the trend to be Nb and look gross, unclean, mentally unstable etc??? You can be gnc/nb and still take a goddamn shower.

I think they’d realize that were not actually transphobic. We’re just adverse to being a gross slop human. Get a haircut, use some proactive. It’s not hard.

>>10579291
Even here, they only delete mean comments towards black people. You can post racist slang for asians and latinos and nothing ever happens kek

>>10580994
I have never actually seen anyone posting racist slang or comments toward Asians or Latinos on cgl, so it is either also getting deleted or just doesn't occur.

>>10580996
Use the archives

>>10581007
If it hasn't happened in the last couple years and not gotten deleted, then does the claim mods only care when it's stuff toward blacks even apply?

>>10579189
>Quality is very important to me. So where can I find high quality items with a 130+ bust size for onder 30 euro incl shipping? Only serious answers plz. Not everyone is rich.
>Antainai is great quality comfy Lolita shoes
>Shouffle Song is amazing quality
>I was promised an undamaged item but there was a loose button!!!!!

>them/they. No concrit plz

>don't ever go to cgl, it's just a bunch off bullies

This thread feels like I've stepped in to a fucking alternate dimension full of people caring way too much about actual nonsense. When was the last time any of you took like a month away from the internet to go be a normal person?

> inb4 "i AM a normal person" etc etc

None of you sociopath-sounding costume obsessives is normal

>>10581042
but have you ever seen someone who says stuff like this and has good coords? being an ita isn't the end of the world, we're just pointing out common things such people say

>>10581042
>This thread feels like I've stepped in to a fucking alternate dimension full of people caring way too much about actual nonsense. When was the last time any of you took like a month away from the internet to go be a normal person?
>You guys (cgl people) are sociapaths/obsessive/not normal/degenerates/need a life/<insert any other common insult here>

And every other time people come to fucking cgl to complain how bad the people on cgl are. As if anyone on an anonymous board is gonna do anything but roll their eyes and continue. Itas on the other hand care way too much what cgl thinks, and are somehow convinced they can change it like they did FB if they cry hard enough. They fail to realise that not how anonymous sites like 4chan work because cancel culture and witch-hunts aren't really possible. Cgl is already one of the better boards on this site kek. Deal with it or just don't enter the site.

>>10581130
>>10581105

These are responses that would work if I knew what the fuck you're talking about but I don't.

>>10580806
Seethe and cry while watching Steven Universe reruns.

>>10581164
begone, scrote

>>10580987
Speak for yourself I am absolutely "transphobic". Scrotes in dresses and fat girls who use >gender as a replacement for personality don't belong in lolita

>>10579289
Chinese run over half the world’s economy. You think they are somehow oppressed because white men want to fuck asian women?

>>10581259
i lov u anon

>>10581343
China Chinese do. America Chinese are still facing strong racism every day, as do most other Asians. Beside, you don't loose your coloured skin because you do well in life. But then what's poc and not is already weird, because European hispanic and latin based people are considered white but American ones are poc.

It's kinda ridiculous that being of colour is more tight to being oppressed than to actually being of, you know, colour. It's almost like they use the term just to shout how sad they are instead of to differentiate non-white races from white ones. Kicking out anyone who's not sad enough to help their plight. I guess at least that's a way to make sure you're an always oppressed group.

>>10581343
>>10581376

Not even the China Chinese run half the world economy. Much like elsewhere there's just a bunch of rich people at the top of the pyramid and everybody else is a wage slave.

>>10581376
European Hispanics are usually white. Mexicans and those in Latin America can be white or poc. In the US at least those are two different boxes. You can be white and Latino/Hispanic or nonwhite, which if Mexican often means mestizo/you have more or some indigenous heritage mixed in, enough to make you not literally blonde haired and blue eyed like many of the rich white Mexicans or Brazilians and stuff.

>>10581042
In all fairness, that's the nature of cgl. I've always thought that it's probable the more stable people tend to just lurk, since there isn't a lot of reason in entertaining some of the more batshit posts. It won't change anything or do any good. I've known a couple nutty people like in cgl irl before, and they'll just do what they do.

>>10581416
You're describing latinos, who aren't white

>>10581449
Latinos can be white. You can be Latino and still look white.

>>10581476
Raising my hand as Latina and white looking af

>>10579189
> any version of needing to have the lolita community conform to your opinions on race and gender

>>10581416
>European Hispanics are usually white.
Have you actually been in Spain/Portugal/Italy/etc? There are enough as dark skinned and looking more hispanic/latino as the hispanic and latinos I see considered poc in the USA. They don't come on general media as often as white people and those darker skinned with more typical white bone structure, but if you actually go to there you see them everywhere. And people generally are much darker than Germanic and Nordic people so compared to them almost all are poc. I mean as a European I consider them white, but I also consider the American ones white to be honest. No one even seems to think about them being a different race here so it always surprised me a lot seeing how big of a deal it was on American TV shows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Point is the line between poc and non-poc is blurry and seems more to be about how oppressed you are than the actual colour of your skin nowadays. I mean >>10581343 literally used "Chinese not being oppressed" as the reason Asians don't count as poc...

>>10581543
Racism is very different and a lot less clear cut in europe than it is in the us, and I think a lot of yanks really don’t realise this - as is typical for them they assume their worldview counts for everyone

>>10581543
Racism in America is literally just about whether or not you're poc or not. If you're not, then you are "a racist" and treated like you're evil for being "white dominators."

>>10581543
>There are enough as dark skinned and looking more hispanic/latino as the hispanic and latinos I see considered poc in the USA

This is very true. I was just in Spain and was not surprised to see so many darker skinned individuals. I'd say they at least have 10-15% Moorish/arabic blood on average.

>>10581617
Same with Latin America. This is why discussions about white latinos go nowhere.

>>10581625
"cOloNIzEr " I ask myself when I see this weak sauce attempt at offensive and clever "reverse racism" and think, "And wtf does that make you, faggot? A slave?" High IQ and is not in these people's deck of cards.

>>10581687
>>>/pol/

>>10580769
They’re not “fitting” in it. They want a oversized look to look like an uwu smol fairy girl who is just too smol for clothes to fit.
That’s why even tho it’s big in measurements it’s still in cuts fat people can’t wear, like the super high waist. I learned this when I lived over there and shopped for just regular clothes>>10581543
. They make a lot of oversized clothes but that doesn’t mean it will fit you if you’re bigger, it’s still be too short and small in places like sleeve length or shoulder width or something

>>10581543
Until 50 years ago Italians and Spanish were not considered white in America. It wasn’t until a lot more immigrants from central and South America came into the US that they got the white blessing because Europe is considered cultured and cool and WASPs wanted their support against black people in the civil rights era.
And it didn’t hurt that the large number of immigrants from those countries at the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century were now in the third or fourth generation, so a lot of white people had a percentage of Spanish or Italian in them and would not have wanted to discriminate against them. So yeah, other anon was right that the term “a person of color” is more of a commentary about your oppression status than the actual color of your skin. And for shitty anecdotal evidence, I’m white and i’ve never had such a good foundation match as I found when I was buying make up in Japan, so they literally are the same color as white people. It’s all grey area

>>10581717
>>10581543

Oops, didn’t mean to include that random (you)

>>10581543
southern europeans were considered nonwhite and discriminated against at one point in america. irish too. it is pretty weird.

>>10581628
^ because people like this try to insist that southern europeans must be something other than white. southern europeans look different from northern and eastern europeans because they're roman descendants rather than anglo or slav. simple as that

what do spanish people from spain have to do with pale mexicans?

>"They tried to make the sexy baby go away, let's start a hashtag #CHSB (come here sexy baby?) We are so sassy and camp."

>>10581717
Yeah, I've definitely noticed it in regular fashion as of late. I just personally think it looks so ugly in lolita when it's regular cuts and not something like a sack dress. At least sack dress cuts make sense with the bagginess. Especially when it's cuts that have shirring anyway, it's like what's even the point of giving it shirring if it's meant to be worn baggy?
I guess I'm ranting now. Thanks for the perspective anyway anon.

>>10581791
The connection is just that you can be Latino or Hispanic but still look or be white. In America especially (maybe Canada idk) the box you check that you're Latino/Hispanic always has you specify if you are white or nonwhite. Like blonde haired, blue eyed, light skinned Mexicans and Spaniards (I've met people who look this way from both places) are white, regardless of how dark some other people in their countries are. That was the whole point but I guess that went over people's heads.

>>10581863
Shirring has always been more of a design element than to fit fat people, anon. At least until more recent times.

>>10581905
Wrong it’s because most clothes in Japan are one-size. Whilst the range of people in Japan is a much smaller range of sizes, people still vary from tiny to average, so shirring helps accommodate for that

>>10581838
are people actually doing that. no way

>>10579201
This. Holy fuck.

>is that price for everything or just the dress?

>>10579558
she wants it for less than $200!!

>>10579189
Unrelated but I swear this exact same dress, including the choker, was in one of the Gosu Rori sewing books

>>10579295
I’m native and I find Bipoc incredibly offensive. It basically lumps Latinos who may have some indigenous ancestry into the same boat as those of us who are citizens of sovereign tribes. Latinos aren’t default Native American, as that refers to a very specific legal identity and it’s painfully obvious that the term bipoc was invented to specifically exclude Asians from conversations that very much involve them. See recent uptick in violence and police idiocy in handling said violence.

>>10581971
I am not here to tell you what shohld or shouldn't offend you since I'm only black and part native and haven't experienced long term reservation life so different experience to full native people, but BIPOC doesn't include latinos.

POC includes all nonwhites but the acronym BIPOC literally means Black and Indigenous People of Color, I assume to highlight how those 2 groups as a whole specifically have historically been more exploited and disadvantaged with little to no effort to correct things from the US government--for natives in particular. BIPOC really brings natives to the forefront of the conversation imo which is good. I assume they are lumped in with black people because of slavery and also attaching their plight to a larger but also heavily disenfranchised group helps give them more bargaining power.

In the end while each group has its own struggles, every race including white people working together to resolve poverty would at least resolve practical issues and discrimination and hate that stem from economic anxieties which often lead to racism and xenophobia. Instead of minorities competing for the sympathy or validation of the majority we should all work with each other.

>>10581889
>In America especially (maybe Canada idk) the box you check that you're Latino/Hispanic always has you specify if you are white or nonwhite.
no it doesn't. everything else you're saying is also wrong. white passing doesn't mean white.

>>10581971
Not to mention almost all black people claim to have native heritage as well. I'm mixed native as well, but apparently that means nothing unless you're mixed with black or latino? Nah. Tired of people trying to feel special about ~*oppression*~

The fact people claim systematic racism is racist, meanwhile living in a fully black area and being racist to any white skinned person for ..idk 40-50 years, I'm pretty certain it's not *~systematic~*

Just because there are some apologists, doesn't make the racism on the other foot right.

>>10582016
You're literally lying or just don't realize you're wrong. In the US white and Latino are boxes you can check both on. Latino is either a separate box or it will say White Hispanic/Latino in one and Nonwhite Hispanic/Latino in another.

White Latinos exist lol get over it. Doesn't mean they are any less valid people or are somehow separate from their ethnicity, it's just a fact. It's okay to be white anon.

>literally discussing race in a "shit itas say" thread
the memes write themselves, gulls

>>10581971
>>10581985

This shit is ita... People who use these retarted terms. POC, BIPOC or any other leftist nonsense to create more division. Fucking ita. Not only ita in regards to the fashion. But ita in any real life situation.

If people want racism to not exist quit separating yourselves into special oppression groups. You're fucking human.... race is just a social construct lololololol.

>>10582036
Yeet urself

>>10582036
Gender is a social construct but that doesn't stop trannies and terfs from duking it out in every thread now does it?

>>10582036
>leftist nonsense to create more division.
>replying to a post about how everyone including white people need to work together to make the world better

Kek

>>10582087
gender roles, sure. but gender itself isnt something the world invented to oppress your inverted vagina.

>>10582034
>men (or mtf) can't be lolitas!
imagine being such an ita you're threatened by men in your hobby.

>>10582092
Actually my uterus is inverted, not my vagina (about 25% of women have inverted uteri, according to my gyno)

Sex is a biological reality, gender is a social construct.

>>10582261
Based

>>10582036
putting aside your lack of understanding about race issues, it has been really cringe seeing those posts. leftists cringe at this behaviour too. you only see these people embarrassing themselves because the rest of us know better than to say stupid shit. it's a fashion group, idk what they thought they were accomplishing by acting as if it's the job of everyone who is in a group for fashion appreciation to suddenly become activists that singlehandedly end racism or whatever. the posts make it sound like its everyone in the group's fault when most people in the fashion are just normal people minding their own business and it's really not that big of an issue in the fashion. and what are you even supposed to say to those posts? how to stop racism in the community lmao, it's called just not being racist and most people already do that.

> My bunny does not approve of this bunny bondage acceptance.It does depict cruelty to animals, human sexualizing of animals, then BDSM to animals. Take out the human part...and really look at what this print depicts. It goes beyond BDSM into beastiality sexualized.

>>10582314
why are there so many edgy children on /cgl/ today? this dress is creepy and gross and is definitely too edgy to not be cringe.

>>10582318
I think you missed anons point. The dress is cringe, but thinking bondage teddy bears = violence against animals and bestiality is extra cringe

>>10582314
>>10582354

The statement is pretty funny. It was meant to be a joke, right...? Due to everybody else arguing so hard about stuffed toys in bondage.

On a tangent I'm actually entertained with this dress, it's causing so many arguments everywhere. Best of all, it's legit ugly and tryhard at the same time, so anyone who bought it basically outs themselves as an attention-seeker with no taste.

>>10582428
NOPE it wasn’t posted as a joke! Look at the original RC thread, this one crazy lolita keeps writing it over and over and over, I hope someone makes a secret for btb about her this week ngl

>>10582354
Correct lol

>>10582431
Yup. These are direct quotes pulled from RC
> People please, once again: It depicts cruelty to animals, human sexualizing of animals, BDSM to animals. Take out the human part...and really look at what this print depicts. It goes beyond BDSM into beastiality sexualized.

>>10582431
they commented that at least 5 times kek

>”This is my first coord but it’s not complete!!! I know I’m not wearing a petticoat and I’m wearing $2 cat ears, Liz Lisa knockoff shoes, and an AlliExpress dress but no concrit plz it’s still lolota!!!!”

>>10582431
>>10582441

what the everloving fuck. What's wrong with them.

> Tattoos, piercings, and dyed hair have no place in lolita.

>>10582448
this one always gets me so pissed

>>10582261
>Sex is a biological reality, gender is a social construct.
I feel so happy coming from a country where we only have one word for both of this. No matter how feminine or masculine someone is, few struggle saying "I'm a man/woman". Men say man, woman say woman, ftm trans say man, mtf trans say woman. And we can all live happily ever after without feeling that the word we use, nor the pronouns that come with it, decides how we act mentally or what we're supposed to do. So people can call themselves by their sex and still be whoever they want to be. Unless you want to do something you actually need a dick or vagina for, it doesn't matter shit. Beside for sexistic people ofc, but that's because they're sexistic and they still only care for sex in their sexism, not for what gender people are. Fuck the need to label your social identity to a gender. Never understood why English has that diversion in the first place. Did that even exist before the snowflakes or was it used as synonyms before that?

>>10582314
>>10582428
The sad moment when someone posts something on topic and it's questionable if it's really meant to be on topic because people derail so much.

>>10582477
Agreed. It’s an alternative fashion you dimwits. If you want no tattoos, no hair color, etc feel free to stop wearing the fashion and head to your local mall for some normie clothes.

>>10582489
Deutsch?

>>10582531
it's not alternative in the way you're using the word. it's a street fashion, but it's not meant to be edgy. you prude shits won't even show your knees.

>>10582548
oh fuck off larper

>>10582548

>>10582448
Not even sure who the fuck is still saying that even 10 years later

>>10582448
Subtle piercings I get, but if your face is absolutely covered in them and you have neon green hair while wearing something like a classic coord it’s very off putting. Just get a wig.

>>10582584
Or just take them out/use small inconspicuous ones. You could also do gothic, or OTT sweet with cute pastel colored piercings/rings. Really taking them out is probably the easiest option, not like the holes will close after one day out and about for a meet.

>>10582531
tattoos, dyed hair and piercings are so normie it's cringe to call it alt. There are more tattooed people than not in our age range (18-35~). You're a conformist.

>>10582616
That’s why it’s ridiculous to say it has no place in lolita because EVERYONE has it. Except a few special snowflakes.

>>10582537
Nope. German also doesn't have this "feature"?

>>10582618
I don't think they have no place in lolita but I think certain themes or styles of tattoos look better/ "go with" in some substyles than others. People with soft cute watercolor style tattoos or lots of sanrio characters, etc. will probably match a sweet coord really well (prettysourlaura, as medicore as a lot of her coords are, has tattoos that seem like they go with sweet lolita well iirc and she shows them off in different ways with sheer tops at times), while some darker artwork with heavy black or dark/saturated color fills will probably look super cool with gothic. I'm not sure what style would look good or match well with classic but I'm sure something feminine and light could look totally fine with it.

I know tattoos are permanent and not exactly accessories so I won't be bothered too much when they don't match someone's coord, but I do really like and appreciate it when the style or subject of tattoo and the coord go together nicely.

>>10582548
>street fashion
>not meant to be edgy
That makes even less sense than alt fashion not meant to be edgy. It's literally called after what the kids hanging around at the streets wear. You know, those often referring to loitering youngsters not conforming to society. They where the first to get piercings and tattoos before it was the norm kek.

>>10582620
It was just the way you typed “sexistic” - reminds me of the German word so I wondered if it was another German ESL typing haha

>>10582614
Lmao I have my nose and ears pierced and if anyone ever told me to take them out for lolita I’d tell them to get fucked - lolita is clothing I wanna wear, my nose ring is an accessory I wanna wear. It’s only conlitas who think like this

>>10582627
I don't think anyone reasonable thinks you have to take them out, but in general accessories match your coord, so if you didn't have matching nose rings or plain ones that gel well with your overall look, people would probably offer concrit to suggest you match those accessories better or omit them. Just like if someone wore a necklace or wristcuffs that didn't match with a coord.

Also literally no one is complaining about ear piercings in lolita I hope lol, even gauges are pretty accepted/ignored

>>10582448
I mean, I don't mind them in itself. But I do mind when they completely clash with the look. I remember this picture of a hugely tattooed (iirc traditional American style) sweet lolita with brightly coloured dreads and (iirc) also face full of piercings. It was some shot from Japan that I can't find back and it makes me so sad. But it was a look. And she was owning it. And it looked super cool.

I feel like most people with tattoos just kinda have them lingering there. It's not really part of their look, but sticks out like a sore thumb. And it just looks bad that way, like it doesn't belong there. Yes it's part of your body, but just like you should try to find cuts that suit you or you'll look bad, you should style in a way your body mods come out in a good way. I feel a lot of lolitas are too much of a special snowflake that rather scream "well I can't remove them so deal with it" instead of finding a way to make their body mods complement their look. Just like how fat people often rather pull themselves in clearly too small clothes than finding something that actually fits and looks good on them. Since it are your tattoos, it shouldn't be impossible to style in a way that works and expresses you.

>>10581628
I think most love fake tan or getting too much on the sun for this they have darker skin. People make fun of me because I hate getting tanned and I don't want premature wrinkles or spots, normies from South Europe love getting sunburnt it's not because most are born with it.
>t.south italian white woman that is pale as a ghost and most people i know in Italy have pale/normal white skin

>>10582753
Italians/Sicilians in particular also just tan better than some other white people so they're just white with a tan, not neccesarily black or something else

>>10582754
I don't get tan nor burn desu, my skin is very akin to the yellow paleness of "asian" tones not pink porcelain just yellowish pale ghoulish skintone. Yes we have some red or blonde pink toned people there but majority is from pale to medium skin and dark hair from black to dirty blonde or darker red hair if they have lighter hair. But as I said most aren't that dark as hispanic non white people unless they have arabic or (way less common) black relatives or parents.
When I went in Japan most people there had the same skintone as me during summer, unlike South Europe where having (fake tanned) dark skin is considered beautiful.

>>10582760
Desu?? Damn autocorrect

>Melanie Martinez is my inspiration

>>10582762
It's not your autocorrect.

>>10582762
Fuck off newfag

>>10582764
Now knowing what she said about AP I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to listen to her again

>>10582783
Usually I just lurk this board for the lolita and casual lolita/other jfashion threads instead of replying so I didn't know this could happen. I should type more in cgl now I got back into lolita, well technically it's more otome with Axes items.

>>10582791
The only people who like her music have absolute shit taste. But I’d say the same about people who like modern AP so ymmv.

>>10582790
Kek

>>10582795
I liked her music when I first heard it because of being able to relate to the child abuse and bullying parts, but I'm not really a pothead and don't usually relate to her on things like her relationship experiences so I only tend to like a specific set of songs of hers though they all sound catchy or whatever.

I have shit taste by most cgl standards since I like sweet (not ott or pastel 2010s though)

>>10582795
I feel alone along with a friend hating Mel because most people I know listen to her and similar crap. Hopefully me and her both listen to old visual kei and we wear toned down classic or gothic.

>>10582791
I’ve heard that she called AP “adult baby clothes”, but I can’t find that quote anywhere. I’ve seen her bring up adult baby clothes, and lolita fashion, but in entirely different statements with no connection to each other. Is there sauce for this?

>>10582887
she didn't directly say "ap is adult baby clothes", but she did say when interviewed about the tour where she wore multiple AP dresses "my style for this is adult baby clothes"

>>10581728
That's not true. My parents from the south considered hispanic pp white. The controversy came after more immigration. My parents are quite old-fashioned and found the whole deal of people being racist against them strange.

>>10582753
Nyart but not really. This is a photo from Madrid from when they beat Germany in the World Cup soccer for example. A candid shot from a news article about it. Every time I visited countries like Spain I saw enough people like this too. Only few are really white.

Also fake tanning is super American. In my experience Europeans either just tan in the sun or go to a tanning salon/buy a tanning bed (with those lights, not sure what it's called in English).

As for them making fun, I have the same and I'm from West Europe. Just had many vacations to South Europe. It's just that most Europeans don't know shit of skincare. They only ever wear sunscreen if it's super sunny because they think the only point is not getting burned instead of preventing aging, even in snow they often don't unless warned and end up burning. They're just making fun of it because to them it comes off as unusual and unnecessary. I'm super pale, but people don't laugh at you being pale, some people just don't pale much anyways. They laugh at you doing things like putting on sunscreen in moderate weather conditions because they don't see the point. Tanning in the summer is seen as normal and healthy but beside for those bling tanned bimbo types not a necessity, and no one realises it ages you unless they're into skincare.

>>10583135
If you’re really European, why would you call football “soccer”? I can’t think of a single European language that doesn’t call it football, e.g. in my language it is Fußball (football). Also, the British famously love fake tanning, the entire continent mocks them for it, we even have a specific nickname for them about it. You sound like a clueless burgerland LARPer to me.

>>10583146
Try harder. It's because I'm typing English and don't want to create misunderstanding between American football and actual football. Soccer is always clear what you mean, doesn't have different meaning depending on country. I'm Dutch, we call it "voetbal" (lit. football in Dutch), and I never heard jokes about British fake tanning. Joke is British are pale and unable to tan, but not that they fake tan.

>>10583146
>my language it is Fußball
>Madrid from when they beat Germany in the World Cup soccer
Angry German? Sorry you lost kek.

>>10583152
Kek anon has never heard of chavs before

>>10583146
as also a Dutch person (like >>10583152) I think its just americanization

>>10583152
is probably too old sorry lol, fake tanning and chavs is like the main joke about British people nowadays

>>10583135
Infact most people here in Italy unless you are a goth, some outsider that loves to care for your natural skin, jfashion addict that loves to be pale af uwu and so on you don't see much people in summer or warmer weater in general going around with white as milk skin because they think having tanned skin is healthy, well nope for your skin cells if you don't use sun protection all the year round and this is valid for every gender not just women. I'm in my 30s, people my age if they get too much sun have already small wrinkles or sunspots, the only dark thing I have in my face are my dark circles around my eyes and I don't have expression lines or any aging effect because I avoid the sun like the plague. When people say white people age badly it's the sun and lack of proper skincare not our genetics unless you have lost the genetic lottery.

>>10582489
>Never understood why English has that diversion in the first place. Did that even exist before the snowflakes or was it used as synonyms before that?
it's modern and from the 1950s or 60s

>Unless you want to do something you actually need a dick or vagina for, it doesn't matter shit.
most trannies want to be the other biological sex, not some weird freak pretending to be it
it's a mental illness and there has to be a better solution than what exists now

Today in BSOLF
What the ita said:
>I ordered a petticoat and they accepted my order, but now they say they don't feel comfortable making something my size instead of staying there was a max. Should I get mad and pull my order?
>Strongly implicating the store just didn't want to made fatty clothes
What actually happened (according to the screenshot posted by the ita):
>Taobao reseller accepted order
>Store said they have no experience making this size and they'll worry they'll make a I'll fitting garment due to that.
>Reseller super politely relaying that message to the buyer asking if they want to cancel the item (as polite advice since it may come out badly and not like expected otherwise)
>Ita crys muh fatshaming because not everyone in the world has experience making whale clothes and the store doesn't want to silently take money and screw them over but politely warns them offering cancelation, how dare they
I was kinda surprised the person wrote LS and not Lsib or LB or so. But little it was indeed, so new they didn't realise you shouldn't post caps in your post proving you're crying about nothing like an attention seeking snowflake if you want asspats.

>>10583334
So you're writing a rant agreeing with me that beside very specific groups (like goth, jfash, and skincare fans) people think tanning is healthy and natural?

Despite that being false, I only said most Europeans think so... We're on a weeb board, most people are in your jfash category, or general weebs with similar stuff going on...

>>10584009
>48 inch/121cm waist
I'll never understand how fatties get this fat, and then expect Asian brands to cater to it. Her main concern should be that her waist is the size of 2 people, not that a brand is shocked at the size of amerifats

Also I checked her facebook and she goes by fae/faeir pronouns and dresses like a 2010 ita, of course

>>10584009
Imagine having an over 120 cm waist and thinking any garments are going to look good on you, holy shit. That's far bigger than most people's busts.

>>10584044
>>10584045
Holy shit, 121cm waist?!? Even when 140kg my waist wasn't that large. How fucking huge is she?

>>10584018
From my experience most people love to get tanned in summer (or it's only the mainstream that make me think so) because the ones that I know and hate to get a tan are my weeb/jfashion friends.

>>10584018
Idk my family is from the American south and see tanning as a great way to end up looking like a cowboy. They grew up rural/poor

>>10579315
i literally just barfed in an ita thread over one

>>10579374
if you have a purple meta that matches, then why not?

>>10584009
that was a great one

>>10584009

I think she expected it be easily done by a custom shop, especially since it's only a petticoat. Speaking as a hobby sewist, the only measurements you need is the waist and length (the width of the hem is decided by the model/design she chose).

Let's be real though, I find once people get that big they tend to have some problems facing reality. And the reality here is there's no way someone that size has a "standard" body shape. So in essence the shop is trying to warn her that petticoat won't sit on her barrel-shaped body the same way as it looks on a petite hourglass mannequin, or the same way it looks on someone "nomal". I can't decide if the shop's just being nice and politely telling her the petticoat doesn't work as a corset. Or, maybe they've already experienced this before and are reluctant to take on a customer that is likely to throw temper tantrums like this when the clothes don't match their imagination. I mean, she did make this post, proving that she's a drama llama that can't handle reality.

>>10579388
Nope it's because meta made some questionable dresses like more than 6 years ago, itas saw the memes, tyler keeps going on about it etc

>>10584009
And even if they were able to make such a petti, under what dress would it go? It would have to be some huge, expensive, custom made piece. I'm a fatty too, but damn, 121 is my BUST size.

>>10584360
This. You have to be over 300lbs and/or super short on top of that for 120cm to be your WAIST. At that size nothing will look good.

Even back when I was deathfat (over 200lbs and 5ft 2), my waist was like 90cm. Can't imagine how much an average height person has to weigh to have a whole foot more in waist than that. Thank god I'm not fat anymore and was never that delusional when I was.

>>10579658
based

>>10584009
120 cm waist!
why even bother trying to wear lolita at that size? Why spend hundreds of dollars on custom made lolita that will look like shit when you could just lose weight, saving your health and making you actually look good? I really don't get fatties.

You are not a middle sister, ffs

>>10584732
LMAO this person claims to have worn lolita for 10 years and done every major substyle

>>10584764
And in another post in October claims to have been a Lolita for 5 years. I don’t see why she feels the need to lie?

>>10584732
>jelly shoes
oh no

>>10584837
I saw that too and was like am I going crazy!? It's ok to admit you're new, and it's certainly less embarrassing than pretending to be seasoned and then posting this.