/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10587528
Feel like I’m at a con in 2011 again

>>10587528
From the thumbnail I thought this was Naturally Racist

Not a man but i kinda of feel bad for all the lovely itas who send their crappy first coords to a lor video. That shit's gonna stay on Youtube.

>>10587550
I wouldn’t feel bad, if a dude can’t be seen crossdressing then he shouldn’t be crossdressing in the first place.

This dress is a tent and it still looks like it doesn’t fit properly

>>10587562
looking at their facial expressions I'd say they're fully aware of that fact

>>10587550
truthfully, for babby's first, this is not bad (aside from the aliexpress replica). she has a decent petti, whites match, isn't overwhelmingly covered in ugly accessories, she's pretty/thin and knows how to pose. if she had the option of brand you gulls would probs be all over her

>>10587529
This activates my fight or flight.

>>10587574

>>10587577

>>10587587
Caption said they were sisters... tinfoil but I wonder if it's the sisters who occasionally humblebrag on here that they wear classic/goth to go out together. If so you are two are some cringe itas and should consider not wearing this fashion

>>10587591
"My coordinate for my high school senior picture!"

>>10587577
This one is cute and honestly could pass especially in the top right pic with their jaw/mouth covered.

>>10587562
Sweet jesus this dress looks like a choir uniform

>>10587595
Sorry if I'm mistaken but I'm pretty sure that's not a dude. I went through her profile just now and she has a photo of her as a little girl up on it

>>10587611
It's really not about whether or not they can pass as a woman or not. The coord is garbage and they have short hair. It looks like shit, man or woman.

>>10587616
if they're a women they could also just be in the regular its thread, this is the men edition for a reason

>>10587629
The "____ edition" is just a silly name given for certain threads on cgl. However this name was extremely low effort bait and the OP is an insufferable faggot who disappears after dumping less than 10 photos to start off the thread. Don't get it twisted tho, you are an insufferable faggot too! In case you needed a reminder.

>>10587632
10 photos is a good amount anon, if a thread doesn't pick up steam then it doesn't pick up steam

>>10587635
I am literally going to kill you (in Minecraft)

>>10587638
shut up gay

>>10587629
The name was just due to what we were arguing about last thread

is this a dude..?

>>10587660
I think they are a wanna be ftm? Afab and goes by he/they but makes no effort to appear masc, get her, or anything else besides not shaving their legs.

>>10587664
Get hrt*

>>10587527

>>10587660
You're too young to be selfposting. Please stop for your health.

>>10587664
oh makes sense cause there was one photo where it looked like they were wearing a binder

>>10587562
It looks like someone photoshopped a dress enlarged twice on her. It's both sad and funny. How can you be so fat your real body looks photoshopped kek.

>>10587670
Free him

>>10587591
Pink wig clashes with the dress but I think they’d look ok in a less awkward photo.

>>10587591
>gothic
I don’t know many goths with sweet AP prints in their wardrobes though anon... Seems very unlikely.

>>10587629
That sad moment you're such a newfag that you don't even know recurring threads are often given names based on the previous one. Friendly advice, lurk more before you post. At least knowing basic cgl culture is needed to not look like a total fool, and to be taken serious.

>>10587696
I’ve been a blood donor most of my adult life. Donating blood hurts a little bit, but that’s not what bothers me about donating. My problem is that anywhere I donate, there are always extraneous, unnecessary irritations.

Mostly, they play music — usually too loud, and always music I don’t care for. Often the music is raucous, just when I’d prefer to relax. One time I had to keep saying “I can’t hear you over the music.” to the phlebotomist who was asking me my identity, etc. Another time I had to insist they turn OFF the audio on a movie they were playing for “my” entertainment because they really screwed up that time and the pain was significant and the shoot-’em-up movie was one irritation too many. I’ve quit going to one collection center entirely because of this sort of thing.

I’ve quit donating in “bloodmobiles” (preferring drives in which they truck in the beds, etc.) principally because they ALWAYS reek of disinfectant. Now, I’m pleased that they clean the things, but do they have to leave them reeking? The last straw, though, was when I was donating in a bloodmobile, and one of the phlebotomists was a guy who must have stood 6’4 and was obese. He couldn’t fit down the aisle without bumping my arm, the blood bag, etc. — he was just too big for a bloodmobile.

Then, too, is the problem that they don’t have enough blood drives in my area. I used to go to a Red Cross blood donation center, but I no longer am near that — it, and one other, are too far away now. The Red Cross is constantly dunning me to donate, but not providing enough blood drives for me TO donate at. Extremely Frustrating.

>>10587698

I think you replied to the wrong post lol.

scary hairy

>>10587742
kek is that wondercunt? how is she so ugly and unkempt always

>>10587757
it is not, there is (somehow) an even more unkempt and fashionably illiterate chick who happens to own brand

>>10587757
Wf is trash but good god is cgl so racist that any ambiguously brown woman looks identical to another lol?

>>10587696
A lot of people seem to think AP's dark colorway/religious themed prints are classic

>>10587757
This looks nothing like WF, moron

>>10587765
Kek all brownish women look the same to cgl, and apparently having hair that isn't pin straight makes you unkempt (the coord is bad tho)

discuss

>>10587768
Not a fan of the dresses though I like this account's art. The cutsews looked okay. A lot of people clearly have too much free quarantine time, a ton of people have been dropping mediocre indie brands and resale shops.

>>10587768
Its fine just swap out the cursed shoes with a different pink or blue pair

>>10587671
wasn’t a selfpost, in genuinely wondering since they look,,. weird

>>10587784
It’s just an ugly white
Nothing new

>>10587768
The dress isn’t good but it’s still better than whatever the fuck that jelly bear dress riri put out was

>>10587788
This. Riri or whoever is cute and all, but her cheap gummy candy dresses are ugly...

>>10587789
Yeah. >>10587768 looks like something body line would have put out years ago but Riri’s dress looks like something milanoo would send you.

>>10587562

>>10587526
Is his face really that unfortunate? I refuse to believe anyone looks that bad without being edited to look worse

>>10587769
>>10587770
>>10587788
here's my take. i think that the idea was lovely... but the execution was pretty godawful... and i feel the same about sweetie gummy. in this case tho, if there was 1. more detail on the bodice (the bows look awkward af spaced like that) 2. no peplum with shorter white lace or 3. same peplum with matching lace, i would have said she hit it out of the park. there's something about indie dress releases where the concept is really cute (i.e sweetie gummy, celestial fun fair, lady sloth paper cranes, etc.) but the dress lacks in detail and construction for the price point. there were seriously minor issues for all these dresses. i just wished there had been more cohesiveness and creativity in the design, because i'd have loved to support an indie brand from the west.

on another note, did any gull here purchase an apron skirt from this release? i'm curious as to how it compares to the JSK

>>10587837
I like the print, but the cut and construction makes it very cheap looking.

>>10587871
Am I the only one who feels the print feels weird? It feels like it was a concept dress that never actually had details added to it. The kinda dress you drew at 12 or 13 with plans to get custom printed fabric but kinda never follow through with. The focal point is oversized gummy bears more or less with odd proportions comparatively to the rest of the dress

>>10587889
>Am I the only one who feels the print feels weird?

No.

>>10587837
sweetie gummy looks like every easter dress I had as a child
which isn't necessarily bad, I'm just saying

>>10587871
>>10587889
i think that if the gummy bear print and hearts were scaled up, and the corset lacing on the bodice was wider with a thicker ribbon, it could be very cute! there's also the issue of all the lace being completely different colors. seeing it worn creates so much cognitive dissonance for me, it just can't be done justice at all

>>10587900
>>10587889

I think everything about it is terrible, including the print. It’s just shit. Maybe the art would make cute stationary- but even that’s a stretch.

>>10587714
not ita, just fat, although i can't tell if that mark on her foot is a stain or just the picture??

>>10587900
This looks terrible

>>10587900
Why is it so long?

>>10587963
...maybe its intended for men?
No details on the bodice
Simple print
Length - too long even on Tyler
Sweet pattern

>>10587900
The ribbon used for the corset lacing is so cheap and thin. Nice ribbon is expensive but it's not like the dress wasn't.

>>10587714
>>10587945
I feel like there's way too much skin showing up top, the hair accessories are wrong, and I know not every dress in lolita has a structured bodice, but on someone this large it looks dumpy and sloppy. And yes, it looks like a stain on the tights.

>>10587528
This girl goes to my local con and is functionally retarded/mentally handicapped, she's trying her best.

>>10587900
Nevermind the outfit, what the fuck is up with her face? She looks like she's about to murder a bunch of kittens on a livestream.

>>10587784
Dw anon it's just paranoia anon acussing girls who get posted here often of selfposting probably because they themselves were once caught selfposting and can't cope

>>10587692

>>10588027
Inb4 whiteknighting but why the spaz? Her face is fine here salty anon.

>>10587611
BIG oof I seriously thought that was a man....the short hair reaaaaally doesn't help.

>>10588023
That’s definitely a dude

>>10587768
I almost liked it until i realized its a blatant AP intellectual property ripoff. The bears with forehead star. The melty moons. The sheep are referenced off milky chan. The confetti and stars seem to be copying AP x creamy mami. Etc.
It's still better than most of the indie brands that are currently popular. The color scheme isn't horrid, the line work is light so it doesn't have the garish clip art effect of western indie prints.
It's even relatively well made save for the trim seems to need more gather and would look better had it been attached to the skirt lining instead of hem.

>>10587529
>grimy "alternative" fakeboi
>those exact shoes
every time

>>10587526
why the long face

>>10588073
Totally agree with you. I like her art and also bought stuff from her but this print feels like a blatant ripp off AP. If she had used her usual 80's toys drawings it would have been much better. I think at this point she just wants to make cash.

>>10588027
She looks like she normally does, dunno what your damage is. She's not a looker but she looks fine here.

>>10587664
I just don't understand wanting to be FTM but also wanting to wear cute pastel Lolita. Wtf did you want to be a guy or a little girl bro?

>>10588092
Honestly I think it doesn’t matter if they’re ftm if they dont care how others see them at the end of the day

>>10587664
I think she's on T, she has the tell tale bloated moonface girls get on it. I'm also seeing a five o clock shadow on her.

>>10588073
Looks like care bears too me
>>10587768

I almost like this, it has all the classic ita staples.

>>10588094
that's stupid. even tomboys who end up being NB some of the time dress in non-feminine ways. other than outliers, men don't generally want to be seen as feminine as far as dress. depsite what some say, clothing is gendered mainly because of the cut, but for a lot of other reasons. it's just weird and makes them seem like they're trans as a fad, which is harmful.

>>10588027
She always makes stupid faces

>>10588238
You type like an autistic scrote

>>10588315
you type like you hit an edge of table with your ballsack

>>10588092
They want attention for being a special and unique individual instead of an icky basic bitch feeeeeeemale, but they don't want to actually commit enough to grow a beard or chop their tits off.

>>10587664
Jesus fucking christ, we can’t win can we? We dress plain and masculine and get told we’re just butch women and if we dress feminine we get told we’re not trying even if we’re undergoing medical treatment to transition at the same time.

>>10588340
Kys troon

>>10588340
if you wanna be called a dude then dress as a dude. simple as

>>10588340
>be a biological woman
>dress in frilly, hyper-feminine women’s clothing
>REEEEEEE WHY ARE PEOPLE CALLING ME A WOMAN?

>>10588340
Sis please see a therapist about your internalized misogyny. I'm willing to bet money that you either have undiagnosed autism and/or you hate being female because of unresolved childhood trauma.

>>10588340
but if you're ftm dressing and presenting as a someone who passes as a women I don't see the point? it just feels like internalized misogyny

>>10588340
Quit screeching ffs. Get thicker skin. Sorry you dont pass yet. not everyone that misgenders you is doing it in a derogatory way either. If you want to go by he/they, that’s cool. But stop acting susrpised and getting upset about being misgendered when you’re wearing a hyper feminine fashion.

>>10588350
or because of posters like you

>>10588350
>>10588362
I'd have internalized misogyny if I had to deal with you motherfuckers too

>>10588340
because you're a woman and you always will be

>>10588456
looks cute for casual if u ask me

>>10588340
(you)

>>10588456
Looks great

>>10588456
I like her cardigan a lot. I guess the headpiece looks a little janky, but over all this is cute.

Can people screamin "monster" every time they see white lace state what exactly is wrong with them (persons not laces, as good quality white lace is 1000% fine)

>>10588474
They probably just don't like old school or something

>>10588476
I can understand having issues with low quality laces but crowd screaming "white lace monster" every time they see even good quality lace is more akin to some sort of Pavlov's conditioning.

>>10588340
Calling yourself a trans man while presenting 100% as a female is literally just trying to opt out of being a woman because you associate it with being less than being a man. Internalized misogyny. Think real long and hard about why you don't want to be a woman and why it's all because you've been socialized to believe that women are objects, women are dumb, women need to cater to men, women can't like other women and other bullshit like that. You don't want to be a man, you just don't want to be a woman in a society that is so openly hostile towards women. Take the pink pill sis and become radfem, we welcome you.

>>10588488
Ring ring, it's for you

>>10588488
this is one of the most twisted and illogical disquisitions I have ever read

>>10588492
>>10588496
Pick me! Pick me!

>>10588488
This.

>>10588474
Personally I love well made lacemonsters but I can see how it's an acquired taste

>>10588340
bro /cgl/ isnt a good place to talk abt trans issues, it's not your fault but like. what did you expect trying to defend yourself on 4chan.

>>10588456
kek i bet they posted her cause she's actually pretty

>>10588497
you know >>10588492 was agreeing with >>10588488 right? you don't know what based means?

>>10587767
There are ways to keep curly and coily hair, this girl seems to be brushing it dry or something. Maybe her mom was white and she was never taught how to treat her own hair, unfortunately it’s pretty common.

>>10588700
not ita
sorry your jealous of that phat ass

>>10588701
>>10588700
Am I having eye issues or are her boobs out and shooped?

>>10588700
This is a cute look; I'd consider it casual classic lolita if the jsk was brand, but it's not.

>>10588702
That's her elbow, anon.

>>10588704
Loooolll looked like a saggy boob before I clicked it

>>10588456
her cardigan is darling

>>10588027
she def looks a little crazy but i wouldn't go that far

>>10588340
>>10587664
I wonder if this is the person in the lolita discord I joined. I was talking to this person who said they were ftm and preferred style was sweet lolita. How does that make sense? Why would you be ftm but dress in lolita but still want to be called he?

>>10588700
>>10588703
I'm deeply saddened that lolita has become exclusively brand-specific, that coord is absolutely lolita

>>10588703
It has the silhouette, so it's lolita.

>>10588731
This is such a larper argument. No actual lolita says this because we know it’s about more than just the silhouette.

>>10588734
this.

>>10588734
>>10588740
What else is it about? It has to be brand name?
If I wear a perfect coord with a vintage Gunne Sax dress, it's not lolita?
fuck off, you're clearly the larpers

>>10588496
Care to explain why?
I guarantee you, women want to transition to men for these reasons: they're tomboys, they're gay, they're "not like the other girls", they have been sexually abused by men, they wan't to escape male gaze, they feel like they can't meet society's expectations of women, they experienced discomfort towards their own bodies during puberty just like every woman ever does, they feel dysphoric because their bodies have been so thoroughly sexualized and violated by men, they hate straight sex because being in that vulnerable position is extremely scary and doubly so if you have trauma, they're ashamed of liking traditionally feminine things because they're seen as frivolous, they like typically masculine things, they read too much yaoi (I can go deeper into why so many fujos troon out if you want), they're pressured by their peers because being cishet in the current lgbt climate means being a bigot and an oppressor..... I could go on. These are all reasons to escape womanhood.
If none of these points apply to you then congrats, hormones still won't turn you into a man. You were born as a woman, you grew up and were socialized and oppressed as a woman and I understand that it sucks, it's unfair and it's scary but irreversably mutilating your body medically and surgically is not the way to go sis. Examine why it is you feel like you're not good enough as you are. I guarantee you you're beautiful and valuable exactly as you are and you don't have to do all this.

>>10588731

We don't go by silhouettes because egl.livejournal.com had an influx of stupid newbies claiming rockabilly dresses, disco dresses, prom dresses, vintage/retro dresses as lolita.

Vintage/historical and rockabilly communities were much better off being split from lolita, they often have a focus on historical accuracy that lolita plainly does not give a shit on (hello btssb robes a la francaise), meanwhile lolita goes autistically apeshit over girly details like what materials the ribbons and laces are. Whereas rockabilly is half-filled with girls trying to to that vintage pinup look that lolitas just plain don't give a shit about.

I'm not even going to touch kind of dumb sequinned messes that newbies try to ask if it's loliable just because it fits a petticoat. There's more to lolita than just whether or not it has the silhoutte. The lace, the design, all contribute to the feel of lolita, not just the skirt shape.

test

>>10587660
No it's just a girl pretending to be a man by not shaving her stumpy legs and living in a disgusting place

>>10587762
>>10587765
>>10587767
Uglies with bad hair spotted.
But cry about racism some more kek

>>10588031
Kek is that a circus tent? someone please make an edit she looks so huge it's hilarious

>>10588815
so a woman trying to be a sissy

>>10588815
>No it's just a girl pretending to be a man by not shaving her stumpy legs

dafaq am I reading
some posters here seriously need medical attention
so many insecurities attempted to be masked by passive aggression

>>10588520
>Voldie
>pretty
HAHAHA

>>10587571
she doesn't have any lolita shoes,the hair sucks and the dress shape is off,maybe it's too high waisted for her
general taobao trash

>>10588709
she probably is. honestly hate seeing her cookie cutter coords all the time

>>10588827
nayrt but it's not insecure to state the truth anon, get help.
this pathetic twerp has been plaguing the server i'm in with her tantrums (after obviously self posting on cgl and harvesting what comes with it)

>>10588709
attention whore and reading too much yaoi that's why

>>10588850
gross

>>10588488
Where is the lie?

...except the radfem part. That shits gross. 3rd wave feminism is a plague on society.... but everything else she said is spot on!

>>10588766
I thought the point of transitioning to male is because one feels like a male on the inside so they change the outside to match the feels on the inside?

The majority of these reasons are retarded. And it's actually sad if these are people's reasons. A lot of it sounds like they do it because of others. You'd think such a personal decision would be based on their own personal feelings... oh well, just more reasons to know how ftm gender-specials are riddled with mental illness.

>>10588850
looks like someone who would have to have a chat with Chris Hansen

>>10588870
How does one "feel like" a male if one was born a female (or vice versa)? Women have no point of reference for what it's like to be socialized as a boy, and grow up with a male body - so they base their desire to transition on what they imagine being a man is like from seeing their male relatives and classmates, movies, TV, yaoi, etc. Most girls with mental illness and/or childhood trauma and/or low self esteem conclude that they're men (or nonbinary kek) from thinking "Being a woman (in a sexist society) sucks! I don't want to be a woman! If I don't want to be a woman that must mean I'm a man!"

>>10588875
A lot of kids are androgynous because they haven't developed any secondary sex characteristics yet and can be perceived as either gender, and could spend their childhood socialized as male. Biological sex is a reality (though that line is blurred by the existence of intersex people and the natural variation of hormonal levels) but Gender is a social construct that humans are not innately born with the knowledge of, it is projected onto them through the media and adults. You're being reductive, you can't fathom any scenario outside your narrow world-view. Humanity is a beautiful rainbow that doesn't fit neatly into a box.

I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, internalized misogyny is real but it's not all-encompassing.

Sadly didn't get a screenshot but some sissy crossdressing weirdo was on the lolita reddit asking for help with wearing women's swimsuits in public. It's wonderful how that place is just filled to the brim with itas and weird kinksters.

>>10587699
Not ita. Just unlucky smile.
The coord is actually ok.

>>10588881
What do swimsuits have to do with lolita? I assume it had to have gotten instantly deleted.

>>10588885
maybe it was some pink swimsuit with some frills tagged lolita on wish or something

>>10588488
you're acting as if women really are anything more than objects.

>>10588879
>bringing up intersex, a rare medical condition, as though it were somehow relevant to transgenderism

Are people with an amputee/amputation fetish relevant or in the same boat as people who were naturally born with only 1 leg or arm?

A lot of detransitioned women state that their decision to identify as male was due in part to growing up in a misogynistic household in which their brothers were treated better than them.

Humanity is a beautiful rainbow and there are infinite ways to be a man and a woman. If you don't fit neatly into a stereotypically female box, cutting off healthy breasts and injecting steroids in attempts to be a man only reinforces the idea that men and women need to fit into boxes.

>>10588885
It was up for 15h when I looked. Reported it and then it got removed immediately.

>>10588891
It is relevant in a lot of ways. A lot of intersex people identify as transgender and go through medical or surgical transitions against their will as children or to rectify their bodies with their self-actualized gender identity once they are adults. Intersex children are often forced to have their genitals mutilated or go on hormones against their will. People should have bodily autonomy and the ability to decide what to do with their lives as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. I don't think that a small number of trans people existing, and the hypothetically even smaller percentage of which are doing so for the "wrong reasons" has much of a significant effect on you or the concept of gender unless you choose to fixate on it.

I also mentioned the fluctuation in typically gendered characteristics and hormone levels present in cis people. PCOS is a much more common medical condition. Also you do know that many men and women take artificial steroids and testosterone to combat balding and to build muscle mass, and women take female hormones for birth control? But that's okay because it doesn't go against standard gender presentation, right?

>>10588904
Bring mental wards back for these people.

>>10588456
Is her forehead shooped, though? I remember her hairline being higher. No vendetta - I've always thought Voldie is cute and I admire her 'go fuck yourself' attitude considering all the hate someone on this board has for her - but it's just an observation. This is the cutest I've seen her hair thus far.

Is that a taobao cardi, anyone know? do want

>>10588909
She’s balding due to alcoholism and shoops her hairline. I know this sounds like b8 but it’s not.

>>10588804
But can you explain how that specific coord isn't lolita?
Because even with the parameters you've set, that image is still a lolita coord.

>>10588456
Didn't realize this was Voldie until I read the replies, she's really lost weight

>>10588905
Just say you're a fascist then, instead of hiding behind a facade. You don't actually respect the right to life of anyone who doesn't/can't adhere to oppressive gender norms.

>>1058776
Not liking frizzy hair isn't racist. I have the same hair texture. She needs oil or leave in.

>>10588931
I'm not the one encouraging young boys and girls who don't/can't adhere to oppressive gender norms to inject themselves with hormones for life and cut off their perfectly normal, healthy boobs and dicks.

>>10588927

I'm not the one that said it was or wasn't lolita. I saw the post on reddit, she said she it's an incomplete coord (I forgot what she wanted to show off, the dress or the hat).

At the moment the photo looks like what the girl said it is -- incomplete. Her tights and closed shoes looks too warm for her bare arms, and in turn her bare arms stress that she has no jewellery/accessories. There's no real way to judge it though, if she adds an office blouse to it it'll clearly suck. If she wants to remain blouseless I'd suggest switching out everything below the knees. Even if it met all of your personal criteria for looking lolita now, or if she choses to stick to the purists and go blouseless, she could still mess it up with later additions (since she herself said the coord was incomplete we'd assume she's adding something later, whatever it is).

All I can comment is at least the items don't clash.

As for my comment, I only stepped in to explain why "has the silhouette" is a very poor criteria for claiming anything is lolita.

>>10588937
I didn't say I encourage it, at the most I said I respect people's right to their own bodies and pointed out the hypocrisy of how the medical industry allows countless other comparable procedures that aren't consensual. Why are you so personally offended by other people's "boobs and dicks", it sounds very immature

>>10588027
She's trying to look wide-eyed and awake and cute, I think. Unfortunately you can't just do that, the muscles in the rest of the face tense up when you open your eyes unnaturally wide, and instead of kawaii innocence it comes across looking aggressive. She looks like she's about to fire someone she hates.

>>10588937
You sound like those doctors that refuse to let their female patients get their tubes tied.

>>10588953
Her face looks like she’s 40, it’s embarrassing for her to try and be doing uwu facial expressions. Just wear the clothes and own your Hag face, Tyler.

>>10587768
I don’t mind these indie brands coming out with stuff, but I hate that they charge brand prices for taobao tier shit. Then the same itas who bitch about brand being expensive, drop money on this shit.

>>10588958
Comparing tubal ligation to genital surgery and the absolutely cancer-causing rounds of hormones involved in gender change surgery is... very stupid.

>>10588350
based

>>10588974
oh lawd those rolls

>>10588982
This could have been almost passable as casual if there were shoes and the print actually had any ivory in it.

>>10588982
Yikes the ears

>>10588984
No it couldn’t have

>>10588474
Pretty much because of all the cheap satin fire hazards that popped up in the millions once lolita got more popular? I mean... This is basic knowledge, anon

>>10588705
Kek

>>10588993
I think if she had swapped out a small floral print in ivory or with ivory lace it would look nice as fas as color balance, though the blouse and socks aren't really good for lolita.

>>10588884
Ngl she always looks like she's 0.2 seconds away from snapping and just stabbing someone for looking at her funny

>>10589003
I mean I see where they were going with this but the execution isn't as good desu, especially the bare legs and toes

>>10588982
I actually really like the idea of a quilt-inspired print and I’m ok with the Aliexpress blouse and socks (because they match), but why the heck did she decide to put on elf ears?

>>10587577
I thought we have been over this girl the last time she was posted. She’s a literal child.

>>10589016
Nobody cares

>>10589019
Was I mistaken in thinking there was a rule against posting minors? I thought that was the reason the posts of her were removed the last time.

>>10589021
newfag here but it sounds logical that we shouldn't be posting minors

vomit

>>10589027
lol the bad editing

>>10589023
Known minors at least

>>10589021
It’s not a rule, but it’s discouraged. The farm has a rule in place about not posting people under 16 though. It probably got deleted because people reported it

>>10588868
you think radical feminism is third wave feminism? lmao

>>10588978
every single component is another type of atrocity. the shoes are the absolute worst though. is this handmade? why do people buy fabric like this for their dresses?

>>10588999
the fit and construction aren't bad, but everything else needs to be nicer for the coord to be successful. i'm not usually a fan of dollbe prints but i actually like the idea of this one. it looks sort of normie but if i saw this her in person i wouldn't feel like she was an outright affront to my eyes other than the elf ears.

>>10589027
i sort of get what she was going for with the dark coord and star accents but it just didn't work. the color balance is utterly fucked.

>>10588978
i'm personally offended by this coord. cheap costume store bunny ears, random normie t-shirt under an ugly jsk, horrid tights and even more horrid shoes. i suppose the only thing i'm not mega offended by is the little decorations behind her lol

>>10588909
It's not cgl that hates her, it's her 'friends' who happen to be gulls. They all shit talk eachother here.

>>10587664
still more effort than some fakebois. I've seen fakebois that are more feminine than me despite the fact that I'm a girl and I've never gone through a cringey trans phase. Heck, I wouldn't even consider myself a tomboy. Just shows you how much transtrenders use the label as a trendy accessory or for oppression points.

>>10587699
Passes the sticker test, better luck next time.

>>10589008
Those appear to be some kind of ugly sheer black tights but agree that this is not cute. I don’t understand the bondage Jesus theme, please explain if you think you get the coord idea

>>10589125
I kind of like it

>>10589124
She is a very nice girl but makes some weird fashion choices

>>10589126
Cut off the head and its fine

>>10589130
nope fat

>>10589021
>Was I mistaken in thinking there was a rule against posting minors?
yes read the rules newfag

>>10589124
I want that sheer hem to either fall slightly above or slightly below the main piece's hem. The extreme difference makes it look really unplanned/accidental.

>>10589130
that's such a stupid argument. even if you know how to coord okay, you've still ruined the outfit by looking like shit in it. this is just another way to give men a pass in this fashion.

>>10588456
Selfpost or maybe vendetta. Looks fine.

>>10588766
Y'all really gotta stop training so hard for the oppression Olympics lmfao.
Being a girl isn't nearly as bad as yall are making it out to be, and that's coming from a lesbian who grew up with a misogynist dad who told me to learn to cook "for the man in my life."
Not every woman feels discomfort towards their bodies during puberty, unless you count menstrual cramps I guess. And maybe it's cause I'm ugly or something but I haven't felt "thoroughly sexualized and violated by men."

>>10588844
We can't even see her feet you autist

>>10589153
Im just talking about the coord I don’t care whats wearing it

>>10588875
No idea how they feel like a boy or not. That's all in their head. But you sure hit the nail on the head with the mental illness part.

>>10589160
Newfag? At this point it has become a tradition to see her posted in these threads

>>10589039
Guess I'm just not privy to the nuances of feminism. Indulge me....

I'm sure it's all the same trash ideologies with different buzzwords. I'll probably stand by the fact that any version of modern day feminism is complete shit that pumps out the most insufferable and useless women.... but I'm open to hearing the differences.

>>10589164
Based. I've never felt any issues with being a woman. In fact I'd go so far to say I have women privilege. I would never want to be a man. I get everything I want and I can do and say awful shit. And people just think it's funny and cute. Men will drop anything to help me in an instant and alls I have to do is smile and be nice. I pay no bills because my bf is traditional and thinks it's a mans duty to take care of everything. I work a decent job too and I can blow all of my money frivolously. I just have to look cute, not be overly fat (I've got some pudge), cook nice dinners and put out once in a while. And just be a regular ol' woman. And I'm not ever super pretty either. I'm so average it hurts.

No wonder they want to be men, they have no idea how to use being a women to their advantage. Who knew being a traditional woman makes life so easy??

>>10589003
This is a nitpick and not ita.
Just add black tights under the gold leaves(?) and it'd look good.
Why does this girl always have some weird vendetta chan posting her in every other thread? She can be ita but this isn't ita.

>>10587714
400 likes for this trash on CoF, and barely any for the decent Easter coords.
Is the FB algorithm just trash or are the people on there that tasteless?

>>10588909
It's from Secret Honey

>>10589211
some anon posted to the confession thread that they've dreamed about her, so maybe it's the same vendetta-chan, kek

>>10587660
This hurts because I know people who actually look like this.

>>10587577
>>10587587
>>10587594
>>10587699
>>10587768
>>10588456
>>10588700
>>10588982
>>10589027
>>10589125
A lot of this thread (and, frankly, a lot of ita threads recently) are nitpicks or people with unfortunate faces. Some threads have coped by posting trannies or fatties, but even badly-dressed fatties are becoming harder to find, and the badly-dressed men are sissies or other fetishists (not true mtf gender-dysphorics, or androgynous gods like Mana). Are we seeing the end of widespread ita-ness? Discuss.

>>10589251
Samefag, but inb4
>these are all garbage
On all of these, you could literally change one thing and it would be fine. Not great or outstanding, but bare-minimum fine.

>>10589251
>people with unfortunate faces
Then they should sticker their faces

>>10588931
Didn't say that at you obtuse, reddit-debate me child faggot.

>>10589212
she's a fatty so of course she gets more asspats for muh body positivity

>>10589263
people don't have to cover their faces just because you can't deal with looking at a person that isn't cute. that's a you problem that you should frankly seek help for

>>10589251

I had the same thought five years ago, and ten years ago before that too. Yet look at this thread, not one but multiple replica disasters, OP pic is a loliable (boy-stylable?) mess, and there's even classic lacemonsters that I expected would go extinct after good taobao started getting easier to buy.

If anything I'm impressed at the creativity? the determination? seems there will always be itas and they will always repeat the same classic mistakes. We've warned them enough about Milanope but they just substituted it with Amazon, wish and aliexpress and carried on ita-ing.

>>10589251
>Are we seeing the end of widespread ita-ness?
Absolutely not people just like to be super nitpicky in these threads for some reason. I honestly don't understand it when all it takes to spot an ita is a visit to r/lolita and any instagram # involving lolita.
They're so prevalent it's depressing. 90% of #gothiclolita on insta is ita as fuck or just boring coords at best.

>>10589320
>good taobao
>loliable
pretend to not be new harder.

>>10589337

>taobao that's not as awful as the milanoo stuff

Happy?

>>10589196
If you're gonna post retarded shit make it less obvious you're a scrote

>>10589234
Im dream anon. I like her coords and I don't think shes ita at all.

>>10589196
This is such transparent larping as a woman. You should also say "skirt go spinny"

>>10589211
I'm not sure how you think this is a nitpick. None of what she's wearing even remotely looks like lolita.

>Round hat
>Skirt too big and wrong shape
>Stupid bodice
>Sleeves are puffier than an average dress
>Wearing a fucking collar for a leash

>>10589440
Way to out yourself as a larper.

>>10589445
Way to out yourself as an ita

>>10588470
okay but where is that cardigan from

>>10589003
Good to see something fresh. No idea why anon thinks it's ita.

>>10589459
The dress looks like a costume from the renn faire

>>10589464
... do you not know what dress that is?

>>10589381
>>10589432
You mad bro? Believe it or not there are actually women in this world who don't feel oppressed simply by being a woman.

Being a nice, proper woman without a victim complex can actually get you far in this world.

>>10589483
lmao no "proper woman" uses you mad bro like that, try harder

>>10589483
You heard him ladies, the key to success is being a submissive triad wife!

>>10589483
Get out of this thread you stupid ball sack

>>10588982
Man it’s insane to actually recognize someone I went to high school with in one of these threads.

>>10589495
tradwives are so pathetic when simps exist. imagine not getting a man who wants to pay for your existence.

>>10589483
This definitely how you trigger women in this day and age.

I do agree, though anon. Everyone just is about activism when shit is fine, nowadays. I understand keeping the gates high for older gens though. The other anons are just outing themselves as ugly women. There's definitely women 'privilege' when you're moderately attractive to others.

>>10589495

>triad wife

I mean, they probably have money and goons to spare that you can borrow so you can buy what you want and beat up whoever you want so it's not a bad idea actually

>>10589518
This is why you're still a virgin

>>10589525
Don't worry anon, we can't all think for ourselves.

>>10589125
weirdly cute despite her hair and the evil beret

>>10589194
you've managed to both ask for spoonfeeding and be condescending at the same time. kill yourself asshat.

>>10589518
>>10589514
being able to convince men to give you what you want by licking their assholes and putting shoe on head for a living is not a form of privilege. tradwives and simp indulgers are equally pathetic.

>>10589537
And we can't all fuck some bitches either

>>10589542
I'm not interested, lesbo. Go shave your armpits or something.

Okay
Watch this next

https://youtu.be/HNkIjP9nSUc

anyway back to the itas

>>10589558

>>10589518
Ugly women with awful personalities who don't want to put in any effort to better themselves.

>>10589495
I'm not submissive, far from it actually. I just treat my bf and other men with kindness and decency. While you get upset when a man tells you to smile and cry #MeToo, I simply smile and act graciously and men are happy to assist me in any way.

It's really quite sad that you don't believe there are actually women who think and act differently than you. Maybe it's because I'm in my mid 30s and grew up with different values? My parents taught me to be pleasant to everyone and that I can do anything I put my mind to and the only one who has the ability to hinder me is actually me.

I was never told that society oppresses me as women. This is a very recent narrative that came about in the last 10 years. Especially being a woman living in the US. Because there are countries in this world where being a woman is not a privilege and you are a 2nd class citizen. But certainly not here.

>>10589560

>>10589561
maybe you've managed to have your head up your ass for the vast majority of your life but women being oppressed on the basis of their sex isn't some idea that just materialized in the last 10 years.

>>10589563

>>10588766
>I can go deeper into why so many fujos troon out if you want
Nujos are likely to troon out, don't group us regular fujos who just enjoy seeing cute guys bang in with them.

>>10589564

>>10589561
>Maybe it's because I'm in my mid 30s and grew up with different values
it's painfully obvious how christian you are

>This is a very recent narrative that came about in the last 10 years
it has literally always been there but it's more accessible because of social media now, how long is social media populair? ah yes around 10 years do the math stupid

lastly, you live in a bubble and are lying so much too yourself its making me want to vomit

>>10589563
Women in the US haven't been oppressed for as long as I have been alive. It is narrative that feminists and leftists have recently been pushing. And you all are so lazy that you go along with it so you can have an excuse as to why you will never go anywhere in life.... "It's because I'm oppressed"... No, it's because you've never tried.

>>10589561
At this point your posts are too retarded to be real but you're putting too much effort to be a troll

>>10589570
>much too yourself its making me want to vomit
Sounds like a typical 'woke' SJW. I hope you choke on your vomit.

>>10589561
Also mid 30's. I also share the same view point. I think the majority of these kids are being told what to think by others. Loudest voice seems to carry the most. We were born in an age of still being able to critically think, rather than be told what to think by a tech device in our hand. All these kids listen to other people about 'oppression' when there's none in sight.

>>10589570
Sorry your oppressed anon. Your life must suck, it must be awful to be you <3

>>10589576
thank you, it actually really is xx

>>10589579
Maybe if you were Christian, you wouldn't be oppressed.

Let god save you.

>>10589579
Better get back into your shackles and cage before the master notices you were out using the internet!!

>>10589580
nah i'd rather keep on eating pussy than having to marry a man and having children

>>10589571
i'm nearly as old as you are. you're just a fucking idiot who individualizes class analysis and can't differentiate the concept of oppression from literal slavery.

>>10589592
Someone chain this oppressed roast beef eating gorilla up.

>>10589595
>Literal slavery
We're not in china picking cotton. But, if you really are missing your roots that much then you could always move there?

>>10589598
>tfw no reading comprehension

>>10589595
Spoken like a true marxist XD

>>10589564
cute casual minus the ears but she does look like ben shapiro at first glance

>>10589561
Why do you sound like some white trying larp the woman you wish you were

>>10589541
sorry you aren't attractive enough to just sit around and exist and get money.

>>10589564
This is cute. Bodyline =/= ita

>>10589622
I hope you’re joking. That coord is shit

>>10589639

>>10589624
It would have been fine for casual — everything fits and the silhouette is good — if she hadn’t felt the need to put on every single accessory she had at her disposal.

>>10589654
Almost all of her accessories are shit and not lolita suited.

>>10589639
Honestly just replace the purple with mint or brown and it would be solid

>>10589639
>>10589644
angelic pretty ana chan is so unfortunate too bad she's a huge cunt or i'd feel actual pity for her. even her shopping addiction bringing her so much brand cannot seem to bring her any sense of style

>>10589664
>Honestly just replace everything besides the main piece and one accessory and it would be solid

You’re retarded.

>>10589558
God this one made me physically recoil.

>>10589665
She doesn’t even have a lot of brand. She’s posted to her stories about being too poor to buy new things without selling her old stuff first

>>10589666
>Honestly just replace the purple with mint or brown
Retard

>>10589698
Are you even a lolita? Because yes, that would be replacing everything but the main piece and one accessory.

>>10589717
>>10589717
>>10589717

New thread

>>10589719
This threads not even full yet and is still at the top newfag

>>10589724
It sages in less than 10 posts, newfag. Don’t go calling others newfags when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

>>10589251
You do understand a pandemic is still going on right? A lot of people are still avoiding buying or going a lot of places right now. 2020 and this year are still one of the worst times to hop into an expensive niche fashion. Not to mention, shipping is still having problems from places like Japan and China.

Anyone who is into the fashion right now are people who were already into it.

>>10589656
People like this make me think
Maybe eugenics isn't so bad

>>10588850
Gahhh the pic with the sock foot is disgustang

>>10588031
Kek

>>10589773
Looks like he’s taking a shit

>>10589656
What is happening from the neck up?

>>10589728
Idk where u are, but my comm has seen an insane influx of newbies. And I don't see what you're saying having anything to do with the post you replied to.

>>10589860
A man is happening, they are usually ugly

>>10589564
>>10589624

Most of the accessories aren’t even that bad, but those bunny ears aren’t just cheap, they also call o lot of attention, trade it for a decent headpiece and you have a nice casual coord

man seeing this thread scared me back into being normal. I wanted to dress up and shit but know i'm having second thoughts desu

>>10588217
where's the skirt? that's literally just a petticoat

>>10588702
The back of the waist is shooped smaller

>>10587660
Next time take a screenshot of your photo. It's extremely obvious you self posted by the size of the file.

>>10592682
I took a screenshot with my laptop kek

>>10588488
>>10588766
You realize autoandrophilia is a thing, right? Not all FTMs are damsels in distress who need to be saved by the patriarchy

>>10587587
Lmao it me