/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

fat lolitas come off as extremely entitled when they are complaining about brand not making their size

>>10602522
They always are the loudest about drama too.

>>10602527
Idk Tyler is average and she's the community's number one shit stirrer that anyone listens to.

Your cheap Taobao dresses look like shit.

>>10602549
you say that but she literally started her channel bc 4chan gulls wanted someone to cite lolita dama kek. I don't like her either but that's literally the point of her channel. That aside, fatties gonna fat.

>>10602550
ngl some taobao dresses look alright, infanta has a couple nice ones tho some of theirs are very much inspired by actual burando designs

>>10602559
You know what kind I’m talking about.

Feel pity towards fans of modern AP, like damn you just let them shit in your mouth and beg for more

>>10602555
She started it after being encouraged by others, but she continues because she is drama and attention hungry. The whole Apologeddon incident with Lor is proof of that (even if Lor didn't need to apologize). As well as the whole I'm Telling Tyler series and the drama she covered on LWLN always being stale or basic bitch shit copy pasted from fb groups everyone already saw about obvious targets like ita nazi/racists, sissies, etc.

She is the loudest online drama whore and the only one a lot of people, newbies especially, at large watch and listen to regularly. Plus cgl is full of drama hungry people and while half of gulls are fat, the other half and some of the most deranged are the ana chans. Those of us that are neither are just kinda here.

The fact that Lace Market took away the "Plus size friendly" tag is fine. I get it, people mark stuff incorrectly.
But why the heck did they do the replacement in inches? Also, why is it just 40 in and over 44 in?
All my Baby stuff is about 39.3 inches max based on Lolibrary.
Why can't I just have a drop-down so I can be accurate? An inch is a big difference.

>>10602567
Modern AP looks like taobao BS

>>10602748
Fuckin TRUTH

I hate modern lolita so much. It looks like a Halloween costume to the point where I don't even like people calling me a lolita sometimes because I don't want to be associated with modern litas.
It's really moved so far away from the style I originally fell in love with.

inb4 "I hate asexuals, my asexual boyfriend abused me by not fucking me" chick comes in and derails the thread

>>10602760
I feel that. I find when I am in my comm no one is weird about toned down stuff, but online I see people say things like "That isn't even a coord" if doesn't have 17 accessories.
Excuse me for wearing my clothes when I go do chores.

>>10602760
this. The silhouettes are all wonky too

To the gull that outbid me on my dream dress by a ridicules amount.
Behind the Denny's a week from now,
will settle this like real lolitas

>>10602780
It was me, I will continue to ridicule you behind the bows.

>>10602522
as a fattychan in a few plus size groups/servers...yeah. the level of entitlement and personal anger towards brands not catering towards bigger sizes sometimes comes across as borderline racist with the way girls complain in the groups i'm in.

>>10602522
Even if AP started making clothing to fit landwhales it would look like shit because lolita silhouette is not flattering on obese people. I was too fat for lolita, so I lost weight and now I'm not only healthier but actually look good. But I guess it's easier to blame the brand than to get off your ass and work out

>>10602800
It’s so wild to me because you never see people bitching about things that are impossible to change. Very rarely do you see tall or short lolitas annoyed at hem lengths or those with big feet whining that brands don’t carry their size. They just suck it up and figure out what works.

>>10602800
They don't know how to coord decently either. For each fatty that does another 20 mix their pinks up, wear aliexpress, mix fetishgear into it or just have bad taste

>>10602821
>Very rarely do you see tall or short lolitas annoyed at hem lengths or those with big feet whining that brands don’t carry their size
Are you serious, or have you not been to the classical threads? The hate from shorties for the tea-length trend is incessant.

>>10602813
Lolita is flattering on chubby and pear shaped girls because it makes your waist look smaller in comparison to your hips with the poof/pears are smaller and more feminine up, but once you're full on obese or if you are an apple and not thin, it will just make you look ridiculous.

>>10602821
You see those questions every now and then but the result is often people taking the advice or resource for their big shoes,hemming, ect but Fatties bitch and cry even if you link them to Plus size clothing

>>10602821
>It’s so wild to me because you never see people bitching about things that are impossible to change.
That's the thing, though. Your height isn't in your control, but your weight absolutely is. If anything, particularly short/tall lolitas actually have more of a right to ask for brands to be held accountable for their lack of size ranges/fitting issues than fat lolitas do, and yet they don't complain nearly as much.

I wish there was a lolita space that wasn't batshit insane. I end up here because I'm sick of fakbois and sissies getting asspats for being uwu valid and muh burando for 120cm bust posts on facebook, but /cgl/ has its own problems

>>10602834
I'm short and naturally an apple shape. I hate my body so I willingly starved myself to be cuter in lolita. I will never have curves, but I wont gorge myself and complain to brands that they wont cater to my (ugly) body type. Nobody even knows my real body type now that I'm 17 BMI.

I am both too fat and tall for lolita.

I have autoimmune and hormonal health issues that cause weight gain and the medications make it worse. I intentionally stopped taking the meds and ate less than my doctors recommended to lose weight but the rest of my health and life suffered. Was put back on meds so that I am able to even get up and go to work but the lbs are coming back.

I know I can never wear the dresses but I keep buying them. I know I could get Meta plus sized or MAM lovely sized but what's the point? I wont ever look good at my size

>>10602853
if you know you're too fat and tall then stop buying the clothes and find a different fashion that suits you better, retard

>>10602856
No, I will buy what I want. I just want to have nice things

>>10602856
sick and fat people deserve nice things too are you actually braindead.
op you’ll look good in any clothes that make you feel good. don’t give up on your egl dreams

>>10602843
I feel you. I'm banana shaped, and the only way to get barely hourglass measurements is by being really thin.

>>10602853
It's always hilarious when fat people find out that I have an underactive thyroid too, but still manage to be thin

>>10602853
Try to calm down about it. On meds it will be harder to lose weight, but not impossible.
It is hard to not have an emotional reaction to it, but if you do it will make it even harder.

Just try cutting down your calories to lose 1/2 a lb a week. Use an app to track your calories. It will take a while but being consistent will help you more than going down 3 lbs a week and rebounding. Track your calories over a week and so if you overeat one day you can even it out over a few days.

Being consistent and kind to yourself can help with a lot of stuff. Your reward is those dresses waiting for you.

>>10602821
You can not be fat and still struggle to fit lolita if you’re broad shouldered, busy, have a wide torso.

Lolita has actually really given me the drive to lose my last bit of chub I gained from going to college and not being as active cause I have something constantly motivating me to take care of myself. Don’t know why it’s seen as such a negative thing unless you’re being an ana chan

Lolita stopped being a fashion years ago and is now a cosplay. The community grew up and alphabet people took over. You look up older prints and they're more simple.

>>10602879
it doesn't help it's full of nouveau riche chinese girls that are using it to larp as princesses now.

>>10602879
>alphabet people

>>10602881
nouveau riche chinese girls that larp as princesses are infinitely more based than genderspecials and fats

>>10602760
That was the main thing that drived me to wear casual lolita, otome, larme and girly jfashion. I love the fact in Japan brands that cater to these styles sell actual clothing not fancy costumes to use daily. There are some newer pieces I desire from AP or Baby but they are mainly Cutsew dresses or casual stuff.
>>10602826
I admit as a short woman that is small framed I hate how some classic stuff won't fit me properly because they are some weird lengths that make me look stumpy and I'm not even overweight, only classic items from otome/casual lolita brands fit me just fine.

Speaking of confessions, I love a lot salopettes and low waisted skirts that brands used to release some time ago. These are the items that fit me very well more than the usual jsks and skirts. Many hate them because they are too big or tall for it and I'm the right size to fit them despite not being ana chan or underweight.
Same for most girly jfashion brands: finally some clothing that fits me like a glove unlike western brands that are too large and long or too skintight for my damn hips and legs.

>>10602758
>>10602748
I don't buy new ap anymore. I'm not gonna buy that trash

>>10602881

People point to nouveau riche Chinese but honestly I see them wearing lolita dresses with sneakers to go touristing or on days off. Of course then they get criticized for it but I see them wearing it a lot more than people here whining how they couldn't wear their lolita all pandemic because no meetups.

>>10602918
There’s no winning on cgl.

>casual/simple wearable coordinates? ita/lazy/sloppy
>full sets? boring, uncreative
>coordinates that push the boundaries and break rules? tacky, looks ita, ugly
>dressy, fancy coordinates? ita! lolita isn’t a costume

the only way to win on cgl is just never to wear lolita at all

>>10602857
you sound like someone who eats too much

>>10602857
kek imagine spending hundreds of dollars on clothes you can't even wear

Especially because of the mask and because I recently got 2 wigs of much higher quality, I think I pass to most people on the street when I'm wearing gothic lolita.
I get a lot less comments from niggers and gypsies while going about my business, especially if I'm in a group

>>10602964
Imagine being a degenerate sissy getting off using lolita to help you "pass" only with your whole as man face covered and having the nerve to be racist/judgemental to literally anyone else.

>>10602973
>sissy
>getting off
Disgusting
>racist/judgmental
Kek, amerilard never been to the bad parts Europe. That's cute

I don't pass without mask because I fucking suck at makeup and haven't figured out the right shade of red/pink/orange to cancel my beard shadow completely

>>10602974
you dont pass bc ur an ugly troon piss off

Most of my fav lolitas on IG would get called itas on cgl. I'd take a bad experimental coord over a good cookie cutter coord any day.

>>10602964
You will never be a woman.

>>10602978
Don't wanna be one. Men who think they're women are fuckin ill. Nothing wrong with dressing up

I post fake hauls in the mail thread

>>10602964
stop larping

>>10602946
It's almost as if we are all different anons with different opinions on things.

I'm ashamed to admit I'm turning into a Karen. I just have zero patience for undisclosed damage these days

I hate freebies. Please don't give me your crusty dollar store hairclips

>>10603047
im sorry

>>10603047
I don't want them either...

>>10602979
please include that a male was wearing the clothing if you sell it used

I find non light skinned lolitas (of any race) fucking disgusting.

I hate polka dot lace, I wish 90% of it would spontaneously combust.

>>10603083
What do you call light skinned?

>>10603083
Oh so you're just colorist aka vanilla racist

>>10602760
Agreed, it's also the tackily dressed that tend to give the most unsolicited concrit. It makes participating in lolita spaces exhausting.

>>10602780
Eheheh if it was old school it was me and I'm only sorry that we couldn't both get our dream dress anon but IT HAD TO BE DONE.

it makes me so sad that lolitas are transphobic and say the same shit that incels on /pol/ say

deadass i expected it from them but from other women? do better

>>10603130
shit bait anon

>>10603130
literally half cgl are fat ball sack larpers from other threads that lurk here

>>10603130
Why do women have to tolerate mental illness enabling? Fuck off.

>>10603136
Now that is a shit bait.

>>10602515
Bold selfpost

>>10603130
I feel the same. No I'm not trolling or baiting. I don't understand how a community defined by mutual love of expression through their body, clothing, hair and makeup can be so full of ignorant bigots.

>>10603138
I just don't understand why just because I'm female I have to support troons? It doesn't make any more sense than men supporting them.

My comm is discussing having our first post-pandemic meetup and I remembered half the people who will show up are autists, genderspecials, itas, cringe weebs, and fatties. Send help.

I love creating drama from nothing on cgl sorry gulls <3

people on here get so pressed about nothing like just calm down jesus christ

is it really affecting you that badly if some girl has 8 dream dresses

>>10603169
Yes, because that’s not how it works

>>10603183
how does it personally affect you though?

>>10603185
I keep an eye out for DDs, not WTB lists

>>10603161
Same. The first event is coming up next week, and am dreading to see who turns up.

I fap all over dresses that I buy from cute girls on LM, because it gets me off to wear their unwashed clothes. I get gender euphoria from wearing lolita so I can't help myself.

Oh, I also resell them after. Fuck you, TERFs.

>>10603192
bad bait

>>10603192
I'm buying a UV light just for you, now. There's no way I'm going to buy a cum stained dress from some troon and not scan that shit now.

>>10602550
As much as I love the good TaoBao, I have to agree hard. I'm kinda done with this cheap shit. Same for Royal Princes Alice tho, it's equally bad and I don't care it's Japanese burando.

>>10602821
>Very rarely do you see those with big feet whining that brands don’t carry their size
Really? Because I see them so often. "Can only buy shitty cheap TaoBao crap because now one makes my size muh". It's like lolita attracts bigfoot chans because I'm really confused how so much people don't fit brands L or XL shoes. I'm super tall (1,80m) and many around me are, but rarely do I meet someone with too big feet unless they're that kind of fatty chans that have huge feet and need to buy multiple sizes up to accommodate their feet fat.

>>10602881
>nouveau riche chinese girls that are using it to larp as princesses now
Those who wear all their stuff with sneakers and completely uncoordinated because it's about having and showing off more than coording it? Sure, they make it daily-unwearable. Not those OTT and genderspecials get likes only western comms.

>>10603208
wide foot detected

>>10603047
>crusty dollar store hairclips
I mean, I agree if those are the freebies. That's just there to be able to say you gave a freebie and get plus points on feedback. But if the freebies are sad, just don't... Mostly it's like that tho.

If I gave freebies, I tended to give things like nicer quality off-brand/TaoBao wristcuffs etc to bigger/more expensive sells because they're often just not worth selling on their own. Stuff like that is like 15~20 euro new. I always feel second-hand it's not worth much while international shipping is huge. Altrough on the other hand, I once sold shitty Bodyline wristcuffs for 5 euro and almost 30 euro shipping (they were listed when I just started selling thinking someone in a nearby country might like it). I was confused why that person would do that as it's cheaper to buy them new at that point (and they were in stock still) but hey, they paid so what do I care? Nowadays feel it's not worth the effort anymore for that tiny bit of money tho, hence just gifting them.

>>10603214
>I fit brand shoes despite being tall
>Know many people who are tall who fit them too
>Only people I know in rl that don't are fatty chans who can't fit due to foot fat
>Point out to other anon many people do complain about tiny shoes somehow just like fatty chans complain about tiny sizes
>Which makes me feel like lolita fashion atracts bigfoot chans somehow
>Wide foot chan detected
So because randos on FB complain about "muh tiny Asian shoes" I'm having wide feet? That doesn't make sense anon.

>>10602780
>>10602787
I would pay to see this

>>10603208
Some people just have wide feet. I’m slim but I have flat feet like everyone else in my family so I can’t wear brand shoes. I’ve handled them and can see they’re plastic and glued together anyway, so I don’t see what’s the point of bragging about wearing them.

>>10602980
Why?

>>10602763
Are you an asexual-sympathizer? Because you’re just as bad as those reverse rapists themselves.

>>10603234
I'm 5'2 and have had 8.5 size feet even when I was 95 lbs. Some people just have wide toe boxes

>>10603250
me too. I can wear a US kid's 3 or 4 because childrens unisex shoes tend to be wider, but I have to go up to a US women's 5 or 6 for normie heels because they're so goddamn narrow. I used to figure skate too so that was a nightmare haha

some autist is trying to explain to me how he did apparently did a whole psych major, and passed, about lolita fashion and how its actually related to pedophilia and Lolicon and he doesn’t even know basic shit about the fashion. he keeps trying to say it’s based on child exploitation mangas. he’s also fat and unattractive. community college was a mistake

>>10603145
I didn't self-post, I literally just Googled the dress name and this was one of the first pics.

>>10603291
This is why I don't trust "educated" people who think they're experts. I know a university psych major convinced constipation is caused by wanting to feel shit pressed against the prostate because it feels nice. Yes they are LGBTQ. The they is their chosen pronouns.

>>10603300
No one cares what their pronouns are or if they are LGBT. Can you imagine if every time I entered a room I announced that I’m a straight white woman? NOOOOO ONE CARES

>>10603163
I've made up some epic fake drama that still gets discussed to this day. I am proud of my legacy.

For some reason I have developed the habit of looking at the COF thread in the morning, and I think 'ahh, time for my morning COFfee' to myself every time I do. I know, incredibly lame.

I love random old Bodyline stuff.

>>10603130
The thing is, most of us on here who are gender critical/transphobic now used to be TRAs until we hit peak trans after serious exposure to the world of trans insanity. It's easy to not see the problem with the trans community when your only exposure to trans people are a couple IRL friends who genuinely just want to live their lives and be left alone, but one doesn't need to take that far of a deep dive into the trans world to find out just how fucked in the head a very significant portion of these people are. The lolita community in particular is a magnet for the dark side of the trans world, so lolitas are more likely to hit peak trans faster than normal women.

You're living under the rock if you don't think there's countless examples of psychotic trans-identifying people giving women damn good reason to fear them.

>>10603291
At my community college a guy found out I wore lolita and cornered me to tell me he was a troon. As if those two are in any way related. He tried to make it about him "preferring stockings and skirts on my legs, just like you do!" ghosted that fucker as soon as I could. Fuck community college

I created the hover loli meme years ago in an old ita thread. I know the girl in this photo was in the ita thread but I thought she looked so cute and fluffy and someone mentioned she looked like she was hovering so I went for it. I was hyped when Deerstalker pictures had a video on a hover loli.

>>10603321
thank you for your service

>>10603321
I love you

>>10603305
I don't know why scrotes come to this board to be homophobic. You do know the majority of the women on this board are bi / lesbians right? You're not slick.

>>10603322
>>10603323
It's been a pleasure!

>>10603319
It’s been so nice not being on campus, it’s just full of ugly trannys and neutered men pretending to be smart. I don’t think I’ll ever go back. community college man, not even once

I translated the first volume of Kitai fuku ga aru with some other anons but dropped off the face of the internet when some other translation group was like "hey we're already called dibs on this so can you stop your project" even though they only had like a prototype of the first ch done while anons and I were plowing through like a chapter a day. We also had trouble contacting the person who promised raws of the second volume, plus my bipolar was acting up, plus I got mad anxiety knowing that a lot of people were reading it and waiting for more chapters. Basically it just stopped being fun so I peaced out.
Recently I found out that Tyler had actually read our translation in a video she made about the manga. It felt pretty strange watching her read something I wrote.
I have bit of a following now but no one knows that translator-chan was me. I don't plan on telling anyone.

I'm sorry it was so stressful, I've really enjoyed reading the chapters that have been translated but I imagine that sudden pressure when it got popular was a lot. Seems like the other group hasn't been posting any new chapters. Why is 2 groups translating the same thing so bad if you don't mind me asking? Seems a little strange

>>10603480
I have no idea why you'd give up like that. just tell them to fuck off and keep going

>>10603490
We did tell them (politely) to fuck off. There were several reasons why I quit. Did you even read the post?

I am really sad my com is full of weebs.
I just want to talk about the intricacies of lolita (feminist, social, phycological) with someone

>>10603502
>phycological
Now I want an algae print.

>>10603250
>I don’t see what’s the point of bragging about wearing them.
I don't wear brand shoes either, but I do fit them.

>Some people just have wide feet.
It's not the width I see them complain about (Asian shoes are small width instead of medium), but general size or length. Like, people having EU42 and larger so they "can only buy AN*TAI*NAI uwu". Most shoe stores in my country don't even carry larger sizes than EU42, that's already considered huge. EU39 is average here, which generally equals a brand's L or XL size. If I recall correctly (but I might be wrong because I never use it), EU39 is like a US9. Yet the average woman's length is 1,72m so looking at those averages I doubt it's just proportions.

Even if some have wide or big feet, that doesn't explain why I see complaints about tiny Asian shoes so much in lolita compared to other places. So where do all these huge feet people come from? What makes bigfoot people love lolita? Or are a big part of them just fatties acting like they just have huge feet to avoid the "I'm fat, and if I would lose weight I might fit shoes normally" thing?

>>10603527
Interestingly, at 8.5/9 i wear EU40. Although my motorcycle boots are EU39. The Asian size charts seem to interpret one size off, then because in asian brands I am LL, 24.5, OR EU40. weird

>>10603310
No, that’s nice. Thank you for that share.
>>10603502
That’s why you come here right? Jk...
I’m imagining if the US had a tier list/rating system/high quality level lolita group that personally invited girls to the club, so we could avoid the cringe.

>>10603248
Low-key wondering if it was me because I also bought a dress that day

>>10603325
were they even trying to be? how does saying no one cares about attention whoring your sexual preferences trigger you?

>>10603136
well said, i don't know where this stigma of an obligation to cater comes from and i find it rather sexist to expect that from women as a whole

>>10603527
It's because Japanese women are very small and petite. Whereas burgerfags/Europeans are taller and with that comes with bigger feets. I'm 6 feet tall myself and my shoe size is 14 women's.

>>10603527
A quick google search shows that the average woman in the US has a shoe size between 8.5 and 9 (24.5 cm to 25 cm I think). It's not that people randomly have huge feet - it's just an average in certain countries now. For reference, I've been underweight my whole life and I'm an 8.5. Sometimes a 9. My feet are long, not wide at all.

>>10603530
Chinese sizing is a size smaller due to different way of measuring (inner vs outer sole). So EU39 needs to buy Chinese 40.

>>10603591
>It's because Japanese women are very small and petite. Whereas burgerfags/Europeans are taller and with that comes with bigger feet.
Did you read? I'm comparing these bigfoot chans to tall Europeans (average in my country being 1,72m, me being 1,80m. Average shoe size being EU39), who still on average fit brand L or XL shoes, not to small petite Japanese woman... Also, burgerfags on average are equally tall to Chinese woman and only 5cm taller than Japanese woman last time I checked. It's kinda dumb they say those woman are so tiny.

>>10603595
Same question to you, did you read? I'm not talking about US9 as huge but as average here. That still fits brand L or XL and is kinda like EU39/JPN24.5. I'm talking about people who are around EU42.

>>10603530
Chinese sizing is a size smaller due to different way of measuring (inner vs outer sole). So EU39 needs to buy Chinese 40.

>>10603591
>It's because Japanese women are very small and petite. Whereas burgerfags/Europeans are taller and with that comes with bigger feet.
Did you read? I'm comparing these bigfoot chans to tall Europeans (average in my country being 1,72m, me being 1,80m. Average shoe size being EU39, which still fits brand L or XL shoes), not to small petite Japanese woman... But I regularly see people having sizes like EU42 and up complain about how they can only wear AN*TAI*NAI due to their huge feet. Also, burgerfags on average are equally tall to Chinese woman and only 5cm taller than Japanese woman last time I checked. It's kinda dumb they say those women are so tiny.

>>10603595
>A quick google search shows that the average woman in the US has a shoe size between 8.5 and 9 (24.5 cm to 25 cm I think)
Same question to you, did you read? I'm not talking about US9 as huge but as average here. That still fits brand L or XL and is kinda like EU39/JPN24.5. I'm talking about people who are around EU42.

>>10603591
Shoe size doesn't actually correlate to height much. Dutch women are the tallest in the world yet their average shoe size is smaller than the US. My thoughts are lolitas just like to complain.

>>10603590
It happens in any minority and socially lower status/less accepted group it seems. I guess it comes from the feeling of having to work together in order to gain improvement, and life being so unfair so trying to make it fair (because you know, "you know what it's like"). But it's just dumb because so often it also just keeps all the individuals down because they give their time and effort to these others in the same "group" instead of spending it on improving their own situation and get somewhere better causing everyone to stay where they are instead of having some get somewhere better.

>>10603136
Because love is love and the sCiEnCE says it's not a mental illness. They're people too. Or that's what social media says. Gender politics has become an absolute shitshow and we have to be subjected to it. I'm so tired of it.

I refresh cgl often everyday because this place is ironically where there's a sense of community for me. I've been really jaded with real life friends so it feels nice to have people here to interact with, some anons are actually pretty nice.
>>10603327
Hey you, I remember you anon. Thanks for the meme, it was fun while it lasted. Great to see that you're still here after all those years.

>>10603300
>>10603291
This is why I don't trust psych majors at all, especially if they're male.

>>10602763
Shhh, don't summon her!

>>10603591
Troon

>>10603530
24.5cm is L and 25.5cm is LL at least with AP and all other Japanese stores I have bought shoes from.

Men are men and women are women. I have absolutely nothing against men wearing dresses even as a lifestyle. Only insecure nutjobs would. I've seen handsome skater fuckbois rocking skirts and getting literal fangirls. Look at fujoshits and bts tards... They are all obsessed with terribly effeminzed men. Because newsflash: girls like guys with confidence AND ones that don't find femininity disgusting and repulsive. It's not a shame to wear something feminine.
A man believing from the bottom of his heart that he is a woman, mental illness or not, should not be allowed in women's sports, bathrooms, prisons. Let him live his life, call him she/her to his face. Why inflict all that pain when they already commit sudoku on the regular?
Just don't be fucking cruel. If you don't like them just avoid them.

>>10603638
When I mouse over your quote, the words "mental illness" perfectly allign with the anon you're responding to kek

There's a world of difference between the AMAB mentally ill often middle-aged troons, and actual trans people with body dysphoria. If you're not holding trans men (female at birth) to the same standards, and they're not causing the same issues as MTF troons are, then the issue isn't trans people. It's specifically male-at-birth people. Just saying.

>>10603727
No there isn't. Gender euphoria is just what turns you on.

>>10603657
No I'm not my entire family has giant feet and height. My cousin is a troon though kek.

>>10603727
I think most terfy people have no problem with trans men. In my experience both online and irl, a lot of white trans women (AMAB) who were socialized as men/boys and transitioned after puberty, especially later in life, have some of the same entitlement, self importance, and unearned confidence as men. While trans men tend to be, maybe because of being socialized as girls/women, maybe because of being physically in more danger in all male situations than a trans woman would be in all female situations, tend to be more considerate of what makes people uncomfy, put more effort into passing (possibly because it is easier to look like an effeminate man for them than a 50 year old man to just look like a boyish woman, but I have seen trans men who really put effort into bulking up and grooming themselves well, not just fakeboi or twinky guys).

It really does seem to just be AMABs, almost always white or just privileged ones.

>>10603727
The problem is and always has been male socialization.

Last night I had a dream that the oldschool full IW coord I wore out last week was actually an ita maid costume and I looked so stupid I woke up in a cold sweat

I love it when anons use the lolita meme images I have made.
Makes me happy

>>10603811
>>10603782
Is this something that is openly discussed somewhere in a setting where SJWs don't dog pile you? Not in a transphobic manner but legit discussions where mental health of trans individuals, MTF specifically. I've never heard this brought up and I feel if I were hear this outside of CGL/4chan, we'd be treading in cancel territory.

>>10603714
I can't avoid troons because they're in my uni classes, my online fandoms, my local comm, etc. It's not my fault if some mentally ill man kills himself due to transphobia. Is it my fault if homeless people - whose problems in life are faaaaar worse than being MiSgEnDeReD - die of overdoses, HIV, hypothermia, etc., because I didn't give all of them a dollar?

>>10603866
Socialization used to be discussed a lot in trans communities. Learning how not to be a fucking creepy scrote used to be considered one of the main things needed to "pass". (And conversely, learning to act like a man for FtMs)

Lots of passing guides talk about surface level stuff like how men and women tend to take off their shirts differently (crossing arms in front of chest vs pulling the neck up), how to sit, how to walk, etc. but many of the older guides used to include shit like "don't loom over people, keep your body language submissive" "listen rather than dominating the coversation" and other stuff that was meant to address the male socialization they were supposed to be overcoming. It used to be acknowledged that the difference between an FtM and a tomboy was behavior, and likewise for MtFs vs sissy fetishists.

>>10603886
Who hurt you that you're so convinced that being a sociopathic edgelord is cool?
The homeless analogy is just as retarded as you are. All you have to do is literally nothing. Trannies don't ask you for a dollar. All you have to do is shut the fuck up whenever you feel like telling a tranny that they're not a real woman.
How bad is america that you're literally fucking surrounded with them? It's impossible that you're not larping and projecting, or baiting in which case stupid me

Imagine being so limited that you find it completely impossible to find even one tranny that isn't a nightmare to interact with or even befriend.

>>10603903
shut the fuck up about trannies already

>>10603886
>>10603903
nayrt

>>10602515
sauce on this dress?

>>10603909
why is her clevage where her stomach should be what the fuck

>>10603658
Different anon but I wear 25.5 cm shoes and lolita brands LL shoes tend to be too snug for my comfort. They run small for some odd reason.

>>10603901
Nayrt but imo telling people they need to act submissively if they want to pass as women seems counterintuitive. We need to denormalize women acting submissively altogether and tell men in general to shut the fuck up rather than adapt ourselves around men's bullshit.

>>10603946
Ribbons

>>10603984
Nayrt and while I agree, well adjusted women tend to be more socially considerate and understanding (in a reasonable way that takes into account their safety and own comfort too), but that doesn't have to translate to submissive. I don't think we need to adopt masculine traits to be considered strong enough or whatever either.

There's a lot of nuance to it.

>>10604020
nayrt but if you search on youtube how to be more feminine it's always shit like:
>don't talk about your accomplishments, especially when dating
>be extremely soft in your gestures as if you're dancing all the time
>never invite a man out. If you wanna go somewhere just suggest it and let him take care of you
>make men open doors for you and get out of their car to help you with your tire even if you can do it yourself
>be overall extremely receiving and submissive, never ACT. Men are supposed to DO things, you're supposed to sit back and be pampered
>all men want to take care of you, just allow them

If this is what femininity is then I personally fucking hate it. I never met a woman irl who goes as far as this, but if I did I would find that very repulsive. It's not my place to tell a woman how she should be, but this is repulsive behavior.
I'd be friends or more with a woman with Tyler's opinionated, more masculine behavior over a dumb cliche bimbo in distress any day. Just as an example

>>10604030
Yeah that stuff is all bullshit I agree. But female socialization isn't exactly the same as acting like gross misogynistic 1950s stereotypes of what women should be. Tyler if you want to use her as an example or other outspoken, opinionated, "tomboyish" or assertive women are still socialized as girls/women and in social situations act way differently than poorly adjusted trans women retaining their "toxic" masculine traits and male social habits.

SJWs and wokeism are ruining the community.

>>10603984
>>10604020
>>10604030
>>10604038
And this is why a man putting on woman cosplay and aping his favorite sexist female stereotypes will never be indistinguishable from a natural born woman. Trannies deserve to be mocked for being the mentally ill maladjusted losers that they are.

>>10604044
I...can actually agree with you here, anon. It feels as if over the years, specifically during the pandemic, people have been aggressively trying to turn lolita fashion into a social justice movement when it never was in the first place. It’s dumb as shit.

I'm seriously considering starting a company to be able to do some semi-legal tax write-offs and import stuff from Japan cheaper

Some of you need to learn the difference between a "confessions" thread and an "unpopular opinions" thread.

>>10604081
Without sound hateful I'm just glad I don't interact with these people whatsoever. I don't think I have enough patience to have to deal with them and their needs. It's enough being a woman myself and having to deal with potentially mentally ill men but to double up the crazy is a daunting task for me. No thanks.

the shooped eyes haunt me daily

why do you fuckers care about trans people so much? there's statistically no way you're interacting with so many of them on a daily basis IRL

>>10604170
Not lolita or a confession?

Ya know, thinking about fucking in lolita used to gross me out but now I kinda wanna try it...

>>10604170
why do people shoop their faces into oblivion, who is fooled by this? especially when you have tagged photos showing exactly what you look like? this person's heavily photoshopped face scares the fuck out of me

>>10604186
For fun.

>>10604191
you're not fooling anyone when your face comes out of snow looking like a goddamned alien

>>10604171
Because their agenda is force fed to us on a constant basis to the point where we have to put up with literal sissy fetishists just because they call themselves trans or we get labeled a bigot.

>>10604044
Agreed. It’s frilly clothes. Take your performative wokeness elsewhere.

>>10604186
>why do people shoop their faces into oblivion
low self-esteem

>>10604196
>>10604044
I'm black and the rabid performative wokeness and pressure to participate in it is honestly turning me off to the online community almost entirely. I'm so sick of shit like having 20 different rando followers ask me my opinions on random dumb witch hunt drama like the Lor situation. I'm also sick of dumb bitches like Wonder Finch acting like they're the appointed spokesmen of black people and if you disagree with their extremist SJW bullshit, you're a racist or an Uncle Tom. It's so fucking frustrating, like just let us all enjoy our pretty clothes.

i kinda have a shopping addiction, but i make enough money to afford it

>>10604186
Her actual face is fine...she edits herself into a demon, christ

>>10604180
Having romantic, emotional, and spiritual sex in lolita is the only reason I wear it.

>>10604204
Wonderfinch and Kaiser are the reasons why I decided to not participate in the Lolita community. They are both unhinged and mentally ill people who are just desperate for attention. As a poc, I don’t want to be equated to that group of people.

People who don't have sex in lolita are likely asexual sociopaths. Lolita is great, and bonding emotionally and spiritually with someone you love through sex is great. Why not combine the two?

>>10604265
I don't want my nice clothes to get messy/dirty

>>10604269
That's a horribly disrespectful way to talk about sex. Sex is romantic, spiritual, and beautiful. And you're calling it messy and dirty, as if it's nothing more than that. kys.

Please for the love of Mana ignore the axesual schizzo that's shitting up all the threads now. I hope she gets banned like the fat rapist lard she is

>>10604273
there's sweat and fluids involved, I don't want stains on my brand

They come in the bait as many threads as they can fairly often and yet people keep responding to them. Please stop

>>10604209
>spiritual

A couple of my friends are looking like they want to get into the fashion. I’m helping them the best I can but for some reason, I wish they wouldn’t? I guess I want it to just be my thing, however selfish that may be

>>10603319
at my community college I took a basic nutrition class and got paired with a guy who wanted to be a neuroscientist but had already failed the course twice and tried to tell me we should lie and say we saw people eating pizza dough becuase it would be "funny" and then tried to hit on me by asking if we could have sex in a starbucks bathroom because his family was JW and didn't believe in premarital sex

>>10604330
It can be difficult when a friend suddenly wants to get into something you're passionate about and you're not confident that they'll treat it with the same respect you do, or if you're worried that they'll step on your toes. It can also be unpleasant simply to have that person "invading" a space that they didn't use to be in, not because you don't like that person but simply because it used to be part of your time away from them. These are common feelings. I hope that if your friends do start to engage in the fashion, that it goes well for you.

>>10603319
What is it with community colleges being a breeding ground for troons? Every single troon in my life I met through community college. Spoiler alert: they were all batshit insane or extremely Aspergers without exception.

>>10604192
Nyart but fun doesn't equal needing to fool people. As you said, you can easily see it in the tagged photos. Dunno about these people nor do I really care (beside their edits look like shit but gotta start somewhere I guess) so not saying it counts for them. But I for one just like playing around with editing apps, Photoshop, filters, and other stuff like that. And I doubt I'm the only person like that.

>>10603319
>at work
>read manga in Japanese on full-screen no shame. sometimes bring books
>female coworker also very into Japanese
>become friends and gossip coworkers in japanese so they don't understand
>one day notice she's looking at lolita on her phone
>talk about it from what I remember from my teenage versailles obsession when I was convinced i was an irl vampire
>she's persuading me that it's fine to wear it if I'm passionate about it
>now I wanna wear it and been lurking here for months because of her suggestion

The exact opposite of your situation considering she wants to make me a troon Hizaki-wannabe. I wanna get into ouji tho because of the tranny, sissy, ageplayer bias (which is, imo, perfrectly justified)

>i ApOlgize 4 mY GeNdEr m'lAdieS
No. Just saying those faggots are disgusting and I don't wanna be grouped in with them.

>>10604352
are you 5? how fucking naive.

>>10604265
I don't want to get my brand dirty but I have bought a taobao dress for this purpose

>>10604265
I prefer to fuck naked, you dickhead

>>10604364
slut

>>10604364
Right? All the ruffles really get in the way. If >>10604265 and >>10604209 are so concerned about bonding and romance wouldn't full skin to skin contact be more connecting?? How tf would lolita enhance any of those factors?

>>10604358
Sorry that it's so hard to understand that some people have fun in artificially making themselves look as close as possible to their image of perfection without feeling bad about themselves and their real life looks.

I never said no one does it because their insecure. Enough do. But if you think anyone who likes to edit must have a lack of confidence and simply "fun" can't be the reason alone you're the one with the IQ of a child not me. It's no different than doing make-up for fun or art instead of because you worry you're not pretty enough. It's not exactly rocket science. Those specific edits look like shit tho.

>>10604358
Sorry that it's so hard to understand for you that some people have fun in artificially making themselves look as close as possible to their image of perfection (or anything else) without feeling bad about themselves and their real life looks.

I never said no one does it because their insecure. Enough do. But if you think anyone who likes to edit must have a lack of confidence and simply "fun" can't be the reason alone you're the one with the IQ of a child, not me. It's no different than doing make-up for fun or art instead of because you worry you're not pretty enough. It's not exactly rocket science. Those specific edits look like shit tho.

>>10604358
Sorry that it's so hard for you to understand that some people have fun in artificially making themselves look as close as possible to their image of perfection (or anything else) without feeling bad about themselves and their real life looks.

I never said no one does it because their insecure. Enough do. But if you think anyone who likes to edit must have a lack of confidence and simply "fun" can't be the reason alone you're the one with the IQ of a child, not me. It's no different than doing make-up for fun or art instead of because you worry you're not pretty enough. It's not exactly rocket science. Those specific edits look like shit tho.

>>10604265
Why the fuck would I wear clothes during sex

>>10604265
It's just retarded to wear clothes during sex, even more so if they're bulky and expensive

>>10604427
this. i wear lingerie and still take that shit off beforehand.

>>10604394
again, you seem naive as fuck. we aren't talking about using cute filters or adding makeup with apps, we're talking about BDD levels of shoop. if you do that for fun you are the 1/1000000000 who does, the rest do it because of crippling insecurities. the fact that you think makeup is the same as editing most of your features to ridiculous amounts is telling enough.

>>10604394
I cannot believe that you think people who edit their pictures like that aren't trying to pass it off as their real face.

>>10604454
Ntayrt but there's plenty of people online who shoop and are honest about it. You sound uber salty.

>>10604186
She edits her face so white and her eyes so big, it's like she cut someone else's face off and slapped it over hers. It's a level past creepy.

pig dress anon here. i knew i shouldn't have bought the stupid aliexpress $15 pig dress but it was the only place i could find the print after looking for two weeks so here we are

i'm not shocked that the quality is bad (the print is actually relatively well printed but the fabric is tissue paper), but I ordered the 2x because I had no idea what the measurements were and I could've hemmed it if it was too big
I'm not fat. it doesn't even go up one leg.

also the straps are pleather??? which is odd???
anyways the dream of the cute pig gacha print dress is dead and im more disappointed than i should be

if you wanna look at it it's here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001924057934.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.64b64c4dWBFdef

>>10604454
desu i dont think they're trying to fool other people as much as they're trying to fool themselves. and pointing it out is never going to make them stop, t b h. if anything it'll just make them feel worse and keep doing it.

it's kind of a natural side effect of the technology being easily accessible, and the existence of social media.

>>10604186
She looks so much cuter in real life. I’d actually follow her if she posted photos that look like that, but as it is I blocked her so her creepy photos wouldn’t keep showing up on my explore page.

>>10604543
Not sure what you expected, if the pillow turns out decent I wouldn't mind seeing it though.

Is this thread finally dead?

>>10604607
Hardly. Check the time stamp. Someone replied 40 mins before you. This entire board is just slow af.

I miss being able to post feeler sales posts.

random confession I just gotta get off my chest
I'm getting sick of all this woke liberal BS and the lolitas using noun-self pronouns
I'm sick of if I have the wrong opinion on anything i can get shunned.
cant even call out sissies anymore cuz "reee transphobia"
and then on the other side there's terfs who call anyone in a bad coord a sissy when that isnt the case.
im not some fucking /pol/tard but all of this being accepting bullshit is driving me fucking nuts
it's also so hard for me to make lolita friends since they're older than me, and can ONLY talk about lolita (which is boring after a while),

i just needed to get that out there

>>10604743
how old are you?

>>10604744
why?

>>10604744
well im 18, everyone else i know is well into their 20s

>>10604746
you need some growing up to do

>>10604746
where do you want to talk about with them then? besides lolita ofc
I can understand that someone “well into their 20s” wouldn’t want to talk to an 18 year old about their life lmao, you’re basically still a child try to ger some friends your own age

>>10604746
We can tell

>>10604743
>>10604746
t b h if you're 18 i would have a hard time talking to you about anything that isn't lolita related, too. somebody who's even in their early 20s and graduated is in a very different place in life than you.

personally i don't like talking to teenagers as friends because their brains are so different, and their way of thinking can be annoying to an adult. and that's not meant to be a dunk on you--we were all teenagers once. that's probably why they don't talk about anything else with you.

>>10604743
There is hope for the future generations.

>>10603317
same some of their old stuff is really good, most of it sucks but there are gems

>>10604743
oof almost same problems but im much older than you, and having trouble making friends because of it
im just sick of how extreme every one is every where.

>>10604802
I'm feeling this too. This anon actually makes me think it's promising there are younger gens that can critically think and not just be told what to think. Hah.

>>10604659
Good for you

>>10604880
I'm pretty sure once people start learning more and more about something they like, or even hate, they'll develop their own thinking process with their own thoughts and their own opinions. It's not hard to do.

If it is, then that just needs to be alone and contemplate by themselves with no outside influence at all. Do you generalize this entire generation as being followers? Is it really that fucking hard for people to be based? No.

>>10604357
Please lurk more. Announcing your male and immediately trying to distance yourself from trans people, sissys, and age players makes me think you want a medal or something.

>>10603945
It looks like Infanta's Cross Doll OP but the puff balls make me think otherwise

>>10604543
At least it wasn't a expensive purchase? It's unfortunate to hear your dress turned out bad but hopefully a taobao brand will release a decent quality one. Theres alot these days so its only a matter of time!

I've seen incredible brolitas that are super chill and pull it off

>>10603945
Its Maria's Catholic Nun OP by BtSSB

>>10604899
Why do I think this is bait even though it's something so small and plausible

I put to thick cotton strips of lace on either side of a VM OP's zipper to get a cm more out of it for comfort. It's kinda an odd choice, since there's otherwise no lace on the dress, but I'm a lonelita and normies don't know the difference.

>>10604956
Because there are some complete nutjob gulls who can't stand the fact that brolitas exist.
Honestly men in dresses are kinda hot anyway

>>10604956

Dunno maybe it's because of the drama surrounding the most well known one?

>>10604899
How do I become one of those

>george floyd and breonna taylor die
>lolita community falling over itself to bend the knee, raise the fist, be anti-racist, fight historical systemic lolita oppression against black people
>asian americans getting attacked daily, elderly asians being murdered in broad daylight
>complete silence and total disregard for the people that invented lolita in the first place

on one hand, I really appreciate the comm members that welcomed me as a noob but I can't help but roll my eyes every time a new comm member introduces themselves and they've been wearing lolita for less than a year
>my confession is that I'm a bitch

>>10605057
Not to mention that most of the assailants are black too. That's probably why you aren't hearing much anyway.

>>10605083
>black people like Ota-Q used BLM to scam people out of their money, people who were trying to support BLM
>the elderly asian woman who was attacked donated all of the money she got from gofundme to AAPI causes

>>10605083
It's exactly why. The media narrative is specifically to cause more violence - I can bet you there is more hate crimes going on that they do not want to mention and the media will be afraid of calling it a hate crime. This has been going on since the inception of BLM.

This happened right when BLM happened and there were numerous instances of blatant hate (and racist) crimes that are ignored.

https://wreg.com/news/teens-in-kroger-attack-sentenced/

>>10604899
They are a very small minority though

I'm a dirty blonde. I am incredibly lucky with my hair color, and should feel pretty about myself but I can't help but feel jealous of Asian girls with jet black hair. I want to stop and I understand we are both pretty just in different ways but I still am envious af. Black goes with everything but dirty blonde?? Orange makes you look weird, mustard, lavender and brown makes me look shit.
I want to wear chocolate prints and light purple, but if I want to do that it means I need to wear a wig. It is so unfair

>>10605140
That's probably your skin tone, anon. I have dirty blonde hair and I look good in lavender and brown. If you dyed your hair it probably wouldn't change it. If you want to see maybe try a wig.

I actually miss the annual melty/chocolate series from AP.

>>10605140
Black is the easiest color to dye your hair to

>>10605141
Would a different foundation work? Like a cool tone?

>>10605160
No, because you would have to put it all over your body to change how things looked on your skin.
Check out color analysis, it can help you figure out what works on your coloring. I used to think I looked shit in a lot of colors then I found out I just needed cooler versions of them.
Maybe try this: https://colorwise.me/

It isn't foolproof but it is a good starting point.

>>10605165
Thank you!!

>>10605140
Seconding the other anon it's almost definitely your skin tone. Also DO NOT dye your hair black unless you're 100% certain you want to maintain that for a long time and it looks good on you. Black is just about impossible to get out.

>>10605160
Most people who are any blonde besides platinum naturally cannot pull off black hair. The same reason why people with natural black hair often can’t pull off blonde that isn’t platinum. Make up won’t fix this because it’s not just coloring, but facial features too

>>10604899
I know one in my comm that never seems to post himself online. Compared to all the horrific ones I still get the hate for them. They're a minority.

>>10605321
I understand why the sane, competent ones don't post themselves online, but I would love it if some did to balance out the shitty ones. This is one more reason to get out there and be involved in in-person comms. If you just exist in the online one it sucks.
I am sure if one did start posting he would have a target on his back from angry internet people and this is why we can't have nice things.

Of all the things that are part of an ita coord, I think cat ears is the least offensive

>>10605140
Have you entertained the idea of bleaching your hair slightly lighter? it might work.

>>10605498
Theyre not actually hard to make work as long as they're literally not 4 dollar amazon ones and they match the coord, not to mention all of the cat themed dresses you could match them with.

>>10605502
it does make me look much nicer (only did it to one or two shades), but with everything closed its a bi hard to do.

>>10605057
Because black people rank higher on the oppression scale. Only recently were the azns welcomed into being a PeeOhSee as it fit an agenda.... but now they no longer fit when we realize the #AznHate is actually caused by blacks people lol. #AznHate was popular for about a week. Just a trend for the wokefags to jump on because BLM was getting old and stale.

>>10605140
>>10605521
If bleaching your hair helps, you can also try using a purple shampoo on your hair to make it a little more cool toned.

I'm also the opposite end; my hair is a neutral brown so it looks far darker than it technically is most of the time. I wish my hair was a nice chocolatey brown instead (but I'm too lazy to dye it)

My confession is I hate how it's become popular to take low angle shots of coordinates. I get it elongates your legs but I just find it unflattering in most cases. Just embrace being short

>>10604792
true true you got a fair point. it's probably the same with me and high school freshman or even middle school. different stages of life and more immature so i can't blame older lolitas for being a bit iffy about being friends with someone whos going to enter college next year while they've had an established career and would prefer to hang out with other adults

>>10602522
>>10602527
>>10602800
>>10602813
Seethe.

>>10605094
Fo real though how about that time ota-q took thousands of dollars of orders, never fulfilled them, and went radio silent for over a year lol also “donated it” to blm so sry no refunds

>>10606036
t. picrel

Say all the tiktok girls who look like this korean girl, i'm looking for a very similar one

>>10606041
I got so many! jesslean1698, olivia1010010, mallyabdi0, lilly_colton, sabritheking, laurelsupport

I wonder sometimes why some lolitas wear sweet at all if they are ever worried about growing out of the style, like I know the resale value of most sweet is pretty good but like why waste the money in the first place on something you already know you're going to sell? seems weird

>>10606059
some times it really is "just a phase" and there's nothing wrong with that desu

I have a tomboyish friend and super bubbly more feminine friend who I’d wanna see force the other into wearing lolita shit.

>>10606070
ayrt, yeah I get selling peices or changing your style because you grow out of it and all that. people do go through phases but, to knowingly blow so much money on something you feel is temporary, or when you're thinking that you shouldn't wear sweet past 30, it just boggles my mind. Guess I just wouldn't buy sweet if I couldn't see myself wearing it when I'm old.

>>10604896
i really hope so. i just wish there were more prints like that, thats the first print that has sparked that much joy for me in a Minute

at least i can use the fabric for things, it's not a complete waste.

My bf reeeally wants me to wear pirate lolita but I find most of it too tacky to build a whole coord around it. It's not a weird fetish or anything, he just really fucking loves pirates

>>10606119
Sounds wholesome anon. I hope you can wear a matching pirate couple look sometime.

>>10606119
god I wish I had a bf like yours, I fucking love pirates
god now I gotta go find a tricorn hat tutorial

>>10606119
aw that's adorable. You're really lucky to have a bf who cares about lolita.

>>10604180
I’ve done it but it was in classic so the petti wasn’t very poofy

I'm a tranny and a lesbo and I'm not a rapist. Fuck off transphobes

>>10606087
This sounds like “you shouldn’t buy food since you’re just going to eat it anyways”

>>10606087
Maybe once they get older they will change their mind on how they feel about it? It’s probably a “here’s my chance to wear it” situation and they want to enjoy it before it’s too late and they can’t anymore. It’s completely understandable.

>>10606290
no it doesn't. maybe for an idiot. i sounds more like "you shouldn't waste money on food you won't like because you're just going to waste it". but you're esl after all...

>>10606315
Just to add to the shitty comparisons. I think it’s more like “don’t buy that unhealthy food you crave, because you feel bad after eating it”

>>10606277
That's what a rapist would say

>>10606315
They still like the food/clothes at the time of buying though...

>>10606087
why buy clothes for children when they’re just going to grow out of it?

>>10606320
anon, stop.

>>10606321
not an argument

I think lolita doesn't count as a hobby if you only/mainly buy new releases and taobao

>>10606322
i can't believe some of you, are you that upset no one is arguing with you? your comparison is dumb in the first place because anon is talking about her own personal opinions. it's totally reasonable to want to be practical about money spending, especially in a fashion where many people join for a few months as a fad. when you're older, maybe you're understand.
plus, you know a lot of parents exercise that logic by not putting that much effort into choosing clothing for their kids when they are really young.

>>10606325
>no one is arguing with you
You clearly are kek

>>10605159
kek you never noticed all those idiots with completely spotted hair because they tried to dye their hair blond to black? Especially when emo was popular and normies would dye it black all the time. Blond to black can be rather difficult as you generally need to fill the hair up first but no one ever does that when they dye at home. And if you screw up it's hard to get out so all you can do is try to trow in more in hope it becomes black.

>>10606087
>but, to knowingly blow so much money on something you feel is temporary
So you never go to a concert? Or a fancy restaurant? Or any kind of event or luxury that doesn't last forever? Not even something like buying an overpriced Magnum while visiting the zoo on a hot day? Sometimes people just want to enjoy something nice now even if they can't enjoy it anymore later on. At least clothes, you can sell, most temporary non-essential stuff people spend on is gone after a few hours max.

>>10606325
nyart and I agree that anon's reaction was dumb. I too mainly know people who don't want to buy too expensive stuff for children because they break it and grow out of it. But I think in general it's more that that anon said she wonders why, so people want to give insight into why people do than that people are really arguing. That anon seems rather set on refusing any reasoning other than his own tho, so I guess she's just gonna wonder forever.

>>10606277
If you’re a tranny but like women wouldn’t that just make you a... straight male?

I’m Jewish but I’d totally wear D Walkure. Suck my nonexistent circumcised dick

>>10606340
Funny bait but I don't go around and ITS MAAM-ing people so believe whatever you want.

>>10606340
It does, considering they have a penis and just wear women clothes.

Seriously tired of people labeling their mental identity/social identity as their biology. If you have a dick then you have testosterone and that makes you a MALE

>>10606277
No such thing as a male lesbian.

>>10606290
this is a weird comparison. I don't really get it.

>>10606312
This, I totally understand. Never thought about it as something someone would want to "try out" perhaps because I knew I wanted to wear this fashion from the minute I saw it. Still seems kind of crazy to me to spend so much on something just to try!

>>10606320
most people buy super cheap clothes for kids for that exact reason.

>>10606331
I actually don't do those things. I've never been to a concert, or a fancy resturant, or anything like that. I go out somewhere nice maybe once per year, if a friend or someone invites me. But I do understand just wanting something satisfying for the moment as an iced coffee addict, and it's even better if it's something you can sell later. Never thought about it like that.

I guess I'm still just hung up on the sheer cost of it all. I'd never spend $200+, on anything I wasn't absolutely sure I would enjoy and keep for the rest of my life. Do others value money so little?

>>10606399
>most people buy super cheap clothes for kids for that exact reason.

No they do not, kids clothing is a huge business and wouldn’t be successful if “most people” were just putting their kids in cheap clothing. Everything to do with babies and kids is full of temporary but expensive purchases. Cribs, toys, car seats, strollers.

> I'd never spend $200+, on anything I wasn't absolutely sure I would enjoy and keep for the rest of my life.

In the grand scheme of adult life, $200+ isn’t a lot of money.

>>10606341
Same sis. I'm Jewish but there's no denying that the Nazis were sharp dressers.

>>10606399
>I've never been to a concert, or a fancy resturant, or anything like that
>I guess I'm still just hung up on the sheer cost of it all.
>Do others value money so little?
maybe stop projecting your personal uncertainties about money onto other people's spending habits? you sound like a really miserable person tbqh

>>10606399
Can't imagine being that much of a NEET.

>>10606399
>as an iced coffee addict
>I'd never spend $200+, on anything I wasn't absolutely sure I would enjoy and keep for the rest of my life
You probably spend much more than that on iced coffee, especially if you get it from a coffee shop, Starbucks, or something like that. And you drank it, then it was gone. Much shorter than that person enjoyed that dress. In fact, that person probably enjoyed that dress longer than it took you to spend 200 dollar on iced coffee when you could have drunk water or something else cheaper.

200 dollar isn't that much when you're an adult, a month of groceries generally cost more if you're not living off student food kek. Sounds like either you're a poorfag, stingy, or a kid who has yet to get out of school into full adult life.
In fact, now that I'm thinking about it you do sounds like a young adult who's in high school or college:
>Spend a lot on overpriced "cool" drinks, because so "addicted".
>Doesn't understand why people would buy expensive things unless it lasts a lifetime. Because why would you want to enjoy something unless you can enjoy it till death?
>While still spending on drinks that are drunk right away, but it seems cheap because it's "only a few dollar" each time right?
>Thinks 200 dollar is a huge amount of money to spend as an adult.
>Probably spends more than that in a year on coffee tho, but who keeps track of that.
>Struggles understanding other people's views despite multiple explanations but keeps talking about how they are totally not like all those other people here.
Don't worry, once you're an adult you probably look back at yourself and think you were a foolish kid, as where we all once.

>>10606341
>>10606422
Honestly I’d say self-aware Jews are the only people who would look properly cool and rebellious in this set.

I'll be nice to you if you're ugly or an ita but we can't even be fb friends if you're an e-girl and I will ice you the fuck out if you try to talk to me.

>>10606476
unpopular opinion but a lot of you are mad at e girls because they're younger (and often times prettier) than you :^)

>>10606502
Nayrt but I really don't get the e girl hate. It's just teens/kids trying to be edgy, cute, and attractive to boys or other girls if they're gay. Some people are cringe but being cringe on occasion is just part of being human and especially a teenager a lot of the time.

The e-girl hate is retarded and reminds me of the emo/scene hate back in the day, they're the butt of jokes and for what reason? You'd think lolitas in particular would be more understanding since we also wear alt fashion. Let teenage girls wear what they want without getting hate for it.

>>10606502
>>10606524
I'm 26 I don't want to be friends with an adult who acts like a middle schooler and I'm definitely not insecure enough to be jealous of someone that's 90% mall goth makeup and instagram filters
Kids aren't on my radar and can go do embarrassing kids things I'm talking about adults ridden by ahegao and other cringe worthy memes e-girls perpetuate
I'm also sick of them trying to shoehorn their style into lolita

>>10606476

>>10606502
>:^)
spoken like a true egirl

>>10606600
>>10606524
>>10606502
Nobody cares about teenagers god plenty of egirls are over 18 onlyfans is like 95% ethot

>>10606611
Why are you on onlyfans anyway if you hate thots kek

>>10606600
>Let teenage girls wear what they want without getting hate for it
Society has a unique and intense hatred for anything teenage girls like or do, ever. Always been this way and probably will still be this way. Usually people come around later and find another trend or teenage girl thing to hate on and the cycle continues.

>>10606611

18 and 19 are adults and still teens though; most egirls are teens and early 20s at the latest unless they were already ethotting and decided to do the makeup for the trend. Either way, it does little good to waste your energy hating someone for wanting to thot it up online. I don't want that sort of attention so I have no reason to envy or be bothered by them getting it, and I don't have to see their content.

>>10606600
People who hate on underage egirls are bitter af theyre just being kids, but mid 20s egirl onlyfans whores are embarassing kek

I bought a chest binder to fit into dresses without my boobs being squished up

>>10606623
The sad part is the kids are being groomed online to start an onlyfans the second they're legal. I have no problem with the kids (or thots desu if they are of sound adult mind when they decide to do it), but the adults, mostly thirsty men, on the internet normalizing spreading your pussy as soon as you turn 18 for money just so they can see a barely legal person half naked, those people are sick and concerning.

>>10606618
I don't have to be on onlyfans to see the links every ethot has on their profile dumbass
>>10606622
It's less about me "wasting energy hating" and more refusing to associate with the degeneracy that come with e-girl types

>>10604258
Agreed. They're constantly lashing out at people for no good reason. IDK what happened to folks like them but they need mental help. I hate how they use lolita and alt fashion to seem like they're doing something for the good of PoC when it's just selfish performance for their own online clout.

>>10606642
OF is just fast money. Look at Momokunt she has no life skills, no resume, and can't even look in the damn mirror unless it's through a phone camera.

I don't feel bad for any e-whore at all.

>>10604204
We all know Wonderfinch/Purestmaiden is just chasing the "clout" she had back 100 years ago when she was moderating on LJ, kek. What a washed up geezer trying to be relevant. She looks awful and ppl are just falling all over themselves to support her and Kaiser bc they're Black which is ironically reducing them to their race

I hate the lolitas with high follower counts who suddenly started being active in sjw movements last year as ways to get more clout online. They didn't give a shit about that stuff before and are only doing it bc it's trendy. Fucking hypocrites that are total cowards irl. They're just scared of bitches like Kaiser and Purestmaiden, fucking cunts

>>10606727
Both of those miserable cunts feed off of that fear. Their twitter accounts will show you that they are just crazy as hell and reduce everything to their race. What a pathetic way to live.

>>10606725
I feel bad for most adults who were groomed as kids and make regrettable choices because of it, especially considering at 18 your brain isn't even fully developed just yet. Teenaged adults are basically still kids the majority of the time mentally and aren't yet capable of thinking as rationally as they could with normal life experience and more development of their brains and all that jazz.

I feel bad for people who end up doing it and regretting it. The majority of full grown adults who do it don't seem to be regretting it, but I am sure a not insignificant portion of super young people groomed and pressured online into doing it on their 18th birthday will eventually have a lot of mental and self esteem issues from it and that's a bit sad.

Whats with all the dfabs in the fashion who use he/they

How do I differentiate the sane lolitas from those who will bend over backwards to please these self obsessed losers. I want to make friends in the fashion but it seems 99% of the people I run into are too busy telling me to add tws to my normal ass posts or telling me to call them a boy while they wear a frilly pink dress with bunnies and chocolate all over it.

I'm pretty thin but I find it most comfy to buy size large dresses or blouses and tailor them way down. Now none of my dresses pinch anywhere in the arms, but I really get more satisfaction knowing I'm reducing the stock for chubby girls. They don't deserve classic and it's cheap enough to do pretty often desu

I fucking hate all these newfag covidlitas driving up prices when they have no clue how to bid and keep fighting over dresses bidding back and forth when there's still days left on the auction fuck all of you and get out of Lolita

>>10608247
Wow. What is fat to you? Most classic runs small unlike sweet

>>10608997
Innocent World's size L usually fits about 100cm bust and 75cm in the waist, unless someone is super tall and the dress would be short on them, that's fat. I'm on the tall side and that would be fat for me, so I think in all likelihood I saved a beautiful dress from a fatty

I'm a scrote and I frequently accuse other anons of being scrotes for dubious reasons

>>10609341
Most of IW’s stuff is for talls though you fucking retard.

>>10609438
Like I said, I'm pretty tall. I'm 5'8, and it was still like a bag before I got it tailored. I can't imagine there's as many six foot tall lolitas as there are fatty-chans

>>10609492
Waist size 75cm is a whale to you?

>>10606804
Agreed. They keep talking about how scared they are and instead of becoming better people and getting fucking therapy, they cancel others who have nothing to do with their mental problems. I hope people like those bitches fuck off into obscurity soon

>>10608944
You're the fucking newfaggot. One person has a high max bid and one retard (you) is bidding in small increments against the autobid.

>>10610076
yes

>>10610436
ana chan

>>10610437
my bust is 80 you fat fuck, 75 waist is huge. seethe more

>>10611082
Awww I forget twink and prepubesent lolitas exist. When you hit puberty you'll change your mind.

>>10610435
Bold of you to assume I didn't sit back and snipe during the last 10 seconds

>>10611391
I forgot everyone on this board is obese and can't fit unshirred brand.