/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10609421
I want to believe there will be good prints coming in summer but I don't want to get my hopes up.

>>10609421
Are you the same newfag who didn’t put “edition” in the title last time you made a thread too? Because stop that or stop making threads.

What do you guys think about the cover print? I think it looks like ETC and I like it, but I am curious if that is something other people are into.

>>10609441
NTA but you don't need "edition" in every single thread. . . . .

>>10609442
All I care about is that it looks like it's cotton, which makes it better than 99% of everything else AP has released recently.

>>10609441
>>10609444
nyart but agreed. low effort start to the thread

>>10609442
Something about it feels equal parts ETC and Taobao to me. I can’t quite tell why I feel that way though.

>>10609445
That doesn’t look like cotton to me, but by all means support literal genocide for your burando habit. Just a reminder that APs return to cotton is made possible by the forced labor and suffering of Uighur folks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/nz0g306v8c/china-tainted-cotton

Hundreds of thousands of Uighurs being forced into labor is what has made cotton cheap enough to bring back. Wear what you want, but don’t turn a blind eye to how it gets made.

>>10609455
>>10609456
Rich brand bitches wear slave labor. Gtfo this thread you poor Claire's ita.

>>10609442
I get ETC because of pic related, which was a dream dress of mine years ago. I never could find it in black and settled for the weird pink colorway unfortunately. This kind of makes me want the ETC dress again. >>10609451 Maybe you get taobao because of the art? I’m not sure I like it either, and I like APs other cherry prints. I think it has potential to look really cute in French Cafe blue however.

>>10609463
Larping as rich on the internet won't actually make you rich, anon

>>10609464
You know that was my dream dress too for years and I have it in multiple colors. I didn't make the connection till you said it, but yeah that must be why I like it so much. I wish they would re-release that one.
Regardless I think I might pick up this AP one as well since I think it is simple enough for daily wear.

>>10609456
Nobody cares. Everything in china is made with slave labor. China produces nearly all of our shit. It's never going to change. Yeah I feel bad for those people. No, we can't do anything to help them. China fucking sucks dude. Slave labor sucks. The phone or computer you posted this with was made with slave labor. Why don't you get the fuck out of the frilly dress thread and quit trying to guilt trip people for woke points, you stupid fuck. Sorry, but I'm so fucking tired of people like you. Make another thread if you want to shit up the board for sjw approval.

>>10609463
Nope. Just letting y’all know that you’re directly supporting an ongoing genocide. I don’t have anything to prove in fucking cgl of all places about my wardrobe or my status in this community. If you’re buying these cotton releases you’re supporting it. Period.

>>10609463
Plenty of brand-whores have a problem with this anon. I'm not big on the SJW shit, but unlike the things they go on about, the cotton problem is ACTUAL violence. I won't buy cotton for anything these days. There's enough vintage and second-hand clothing for 10 lifetimes.
>>10609464
This makes AP look like a rip-off desu. That's pretty damn similar.

>>10609470
>Everything in china is made with slave labor
That’s actually not true at all. In fact, most garment making is now done in Bangladesh, the Philippines or Vietnam precisely because the standard of Chinese production labor has risen drastically in the past decade. Chinese labor, if you’re not a Uighur or political prisoner, is actually quite expensive these days. Why do you think AP moved to the Philippines?

>>10609470
>everything is bad so it’s ok for me to indulge in genocide
I mean ok?!?

>>10609471
>>10609473
Ok guys take it to another thread

>>10609473
This. Turkey, Vietnam, Philippines, Bangladesh, and India are all far cheaper. The only time garments are made in China these days are if they are of higher quality (comparative to normie fast fashion) or require special machinery that China invested heavily in, like mass scale embroidery for large applique.

>>10609464
Did AP legit copy this ? It looks shockingly similar. If bodyline had made this dress people would consider it borderline replica.

>>10609472
SJWs when you forget about their star kin gender identity:
>RAWRRRR MUH RIGHTS
SJWs when their favorite brand is actively profiteering from human rights violations:
>.......

>>10609477
Fatter stripes, adds an apron, looks good amirite?

I see the resemblance, but when you break it down the similarities are black and white stripes and cherries. They aren't even jam jars. I wouldn't say they ripped them off.

>>10609480
literally replica tier.

>>10609483
They're not jam jars, but the placement and lace drawings are crazy similar.

>>10609455
>>10609456
To be honest, I don't care.

Buying cheap polyester clothes and getting single use plastic bags every time you shop is far fucking worse. Good job contributing to the destruction of our planet and microplastics being in everything we eat.

Is forced labor bad? Yes. But plaqueing the world with plastic, resulting in hundreds, if not thousands, of years of repercussions that affect the entire human race is 100x worse.

>>10609493
NTA but no. Plastic bags are not worse than the Uighur genocide. What the actual fuck. You do realize they literally have crematoriums? Imagine thinking to yourself that using a plastic bag is worse than being beaten to death for your religious and ethnic identity. Dear fucking lord.

>>10609493
Can't tell if you're hitler, insanely stupid, or just white.

>>10609494
I'm not making a comment on forced labor and people dying. I'm saying that the use of cotton is better than the use of polyester.

I rather wear something that will biodegrade after my death than have it hang around and break into millions of shitty particles that will forever be ingested by innocent organisms and pollute the earth. The other anon's argument was "hur dur I'm going to guilt you for wearing cotton because it's supporting violence." Polyester is bad because it's indestructible trash that will cause problems for centuries.

There is no 100% ethical and harmless way to live life.

>>10609441
Yes because in old fag times the word edition was required in an ap thread. Jfc I had to roll my eyes

>>10609497
I'm sorry you also probably believe "vegan leather" is more ethical than real leather.

>>10609464
Jfc AP, at least change the fucking fruit from the one on the dress you're blatantly copying...

>>10609498
>biodegrade

You do realize that all of the chemical processing and dyes that go into the cotton prints that AP does will likely never biodegrade the way you think they will right? All the shit tier dyes and glitter will go down the drain and poison something small.

>>10609498
When the use of cotton involves genocide then no, poly is way better. Also, there are about 5000 natural fiber alternatives to cotton. There's no harmless way to live, but you can certainly get around without fueling a genocide lmao.

>>10609506
funnier still is that polyester printing is basically wasteless.

>>10609500
Actually, some varieties are. They've got nearly wasteless leather made from flowers, mushrooms, and pineapple now. Silicon leather is not only comparatively much better (yes even accounting for the resources) it's also tougher than genuine leather.

>>10609493
>>10609498
>shopping bags are worse than genocide
PEAK WHITENESS lmao

But actually, cotton is ranked consistently as worse than polyester in terms of environmental impact because of the insane amount of pesticides it takes to grow at scale. Cotton is actually fucking horrible for the environment.

>>10609498
>There is no 100% ethical and harmless way to live life.
Ah, yes, ye olde "no ethical consumption so I may as well contribute to the active destruction of people's lives" schtick. Classy.

>>10609507
The unfortunate truth of the matter is whether you want the genocide now in the case of cotton, or years down the road in the case of poly. Also I'm sure slave labor is used to make AP's dresses regardless.

>>10609498
>the use of cotton is better than the use of polyester.
It's not though? The designs AP does require screen printing, which is literally the most environmentally damaging way to produce fabric and the pesticides used to grow cotton at scale are banned in basically every first world country. If you don't care about the impacts of your burando, just say that, cause this whole cotton is more ethical position is just not accurate at all.

>>10609513
Ok. no. APs dresses are made in the phillipines. I'm sure the dress makers don't have the highest labor standards but they ARE being paid. There's a massive difference between being underpaid in voluntary work, and being enslaved by an authoritarian government because of your ethnic identity.You clearly don't understand what a genocide is.

>>10609507
You need to stop using your phone, PC, every piece of clothing you own and then some. It's all made with slave labor you actual idiot. Keep tooting that SJW horn and cherry picking what topic you want to be angry about this week though.

>>10609519
Ur the one out here cherry picking what environmental issues you give a fuck about lmao. Love that instead of thinking critically about AP produces you just say fuck it, everything is slave labor. Uighur genocide is a very specific topic that this very specific sourcing relies on. God you’re stupid.

>>10609519
>It's all made with slave labor
No it actually isn’t. Once again, there’s a huge difference between actual slave labor, and underpaid labor. Making this false equivalency dilutes the actual cases of real slave labor, which is unpaid, involuntary, and in the case of Uighurs racially/ethnically motivated.

I'm curious to know how people who are trying to boycott Xinjiang cotton are approaching buying cotton pieces. Are you eliminating buying new cotton pieces entirely? Does that mean your not buying cotton normie pieces? What about Western indie brands and the Chinese indie brands that haven't outright supported Xinjiang cotton?

Until AP, Baby, Meta, IW, VM, and other brands outright put out statements regarding where they source there materials then I don't think we should judge immediately. Since AP moved production to the Philippines they could be sourcing cotton from alot of other sources since it's a island nation. They might not even know where there cottons sourced from and this probably rings true more for classic since they could use floral prints or trim that could be from anywhere.

"But if you bear in mind that Xinjiang cotton accounts for 85% of Chinese production and 20% of world supply, the chances are high that you've got some in your wardrobe."

BBC article I sourced the quote from: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56535822

>>10609523
>Ur
Please go back to facebook and lurk more.

I don't think there's even proof that AP uses any slave cotton. Please go yell outside Walmart or something if you care so much.

>>10609525
I’m >>10609514 and I don’t buy new cotton. I haven’t in some time, mostly due to environmental issues with the production of it, but the Uighur situation only solidified my position. With Lolita it only recently became relevant with AP being back the cotton but desu I prefer older designs anyways, cotton notwithstanding.

>>10609527
Nta, but how do you justify buying any lolita at all if both cotton and polyester are problematic? As far as I know, no major brand uses sustainable materials. Do you buy purely secondhand for both lolita and normie clothes?

>>10609526
Love this back tracking. First you claimed cotton was “better” environmentally, which it def isn’t, then you say well they’re probably not even using the genocide cotton so who cares.

>>10609525
Should clarify that the part about western indie bands supporting Xinjiang cotton is obviously a mistake. The point I was trying to get across with mentioning western indie brands was that even there cotton pieces could be from Xinjiang. But there's also the chance that it might not be.

>>10609529
I actually do buy polyester when it’s a quality garment that I like. There are actually tons of really high quality Polyester and it’s actually better for the environment in terms of total production impacts. I’d say about 90% of my wardrobe is second hand including normie, and my underwear and stuff is bamboo which btw is amazing. I’ve only even really been tempted by the SC MTO, but at the end of the day, it’s just a dress, and knowing the system it feeds into kinda kills it for me desu. I just don’t feel good about it ya know? And that’s kind of the whole point of Lolita fashion imho.

>>10609532
Imho if it’s cotton, it’s almost certainly got connections to the region unless it’s milled in the US/Europe. The scale of the operation is unbelievable.

ffs Make a separate thread for your autistic fighting

>>10609539
Waiting for the Candy Fairy MTO and new look book pictures is pain.

>>10609525
I’m not sure if I want to step into this steaming pile, but I run an indie brand and wanted to chime in on this. We don’t use cotton because it is impossible to guarantee it’s sourcing without paying the astronomical cost of locally produced cotton. You literally can’t even ask your producers where it comes from because China has cracked down like crazy on people demanding non-Uighur cotton and has even blacklisted companies as unpatriotic when they simply state that they don’t source cotton from xinjiang. It would put my production team in China in a dangerous position for me to ask for that information so I chose to work with RPET, which is recycled. Big brands are slow to move and unlikely to do anything to perturb their Chinese base. Since Uighur genocide has been relabeled as a patriotic effort to improve the economic conditions of Uighur people and is widely supported among the general Chinese population, I wouldn’t be surprised if AP and the like eventually advertised their use of this cotton.

>>10609473
>Why do you think AP moved to the Philippines
You're full of shit, they've been producing there for over a decade.

>>10609523
I didn't say everything. Slow down next time you try reading tard chan.

>>10609555
NTA but that’s not true. AP produced almost exclusively in China up until about 2015.

.. could we get back to i dont know, talking about what possibly new prints are in the summer lookbook, and not.. whatever it is you fags are doing

>>10609558
You’re so ass backwards lol. First you try to argue that cotton is better for the environment, then once you realize you’re wrong you you try to switch focus to whether or not AP sources xinjiang cotton, since apparently your precious environment doesn’t matter anymore. Then you fall back on “all of it is made from slave labor”. Just face it, you have no moral consistency at all and just want to buy your burando without being confronted with the real problems of APs switch to cotton production.

>>10609563
Ap production is being discussed in ap thread. Don’t like the facet then make conversation about something else

>>10609564
Anon, there are multiple people replying to you. It hasn't been the same person the whole time.

>>10609567
Sure jan

>>10609568
That's some ego to think you aren't so stupid that multiple people wouldn't reply to you.

We're bored of you screeching about whether or not AP uses slave cotton. Provide proof or GTFO. Keep skipping those cotton dresses so it's easier for us to buy them. We sleep fine at night.

>>10609564
Take your meds anon. I'm not all of the replies to your sjw bawwing lmao. I didn't say shit about cotton.

>>10609542
I feel u
I want the damn socks too but it looks like it's not gonna happen

>>10609575
I'm stupid - what socks? The candy border socks were already rereleased a few weeks ago.

>>10609562
I have a number of dresses made in the Philippines before 2015. Sugary Carnival being one of them.

>>10609586
Both of my sugary carnivals say made I. China

>>10609591
This is stinking cute. The sneakers look so good with it, I love it for casual wear.

>>10609591
Whelp i need the sneakers in every color

>>10609595
Why does this scream wine mom trying to be hip? I can see the white women creaming themselves over it already.

>>10609590
Sucks for you.

>>10609598
The OP is significantly worse.

>>10609600
Thanks for sharing the lookbook anon.
You're right about the OP, I don't understand the harness. It really does seem like they're pandering to the Instagram crowd.
I think it could potentially be cute in a cutsew cut as loungewear though.

>>10609442
I like it but I feel like it’d be better in another color way.

Gotta be honest, so far these all strike me as being pretty bad and uninspired. That cocktail themed dress looks like an axes femme reject.

>>10609600
This is honestly hideous.

>>10609607
Bunny Tea Party

Not loving the retro 50s theme that keeps making an appearance. Tbh it seems really out of place with a lot of these prints but I guess the customer base ate it up cause they keep it coming.

>>10609610
Ah yes saggy balloon sleeves just what I’m looking for. This looks like those 80s wedding dress sleeves.

>>10609607
>>10609609
I have the mightiest need.

>>10609619
Speaking of, why are the sleeves that hideous cut from that horoscope carnival dress?

>>10609609
If this comes in any pastel color, I want it. Is it named Heartful? Kinda cute.

>>10609595
Again, I need the star/planet jewelry if it comes in any pastel color. Print is awkward though.

>>10609509
How many of these can you actually buy though? I've looked for vegan leather that actually uses plant based alternatives and haven't been able to find anything besides one off runs from luxury fashion brands. I keep buying genuine leather because all of these alternatives don't seem to be commercially available outside of buying the material and making a bag/shoes yourself

After wanting so much for so long, I almost hope thats the end of the scans because my wallet is going to perish this summer.

>>10609628
Pretty much all of them are available on alibaba or other bulk sourcing sites. I’m not sure that a whole lot of drop shippers have started stocking it yet, though there are some on Etsy passing it off as handmade goods.

>>10609632
You have shit taste then, I only see one thing here I’d buy. Most of it looks like wonky taobao desu.

>>10609626
Every new angle shows more of the horror. What were they thinking with this print? Maybe it’s cuter irl.

>>10609637
Theres no way the sneakers are only coming in color.

>>10609639
*one color

>>10609595
>>10609626
Space lollipop 2: Electric Boogaloo, I’m 100% here for it. OP is trash tho I agree

>>10609600
I kind of love this? Giving Zenon vibes.

>>10609637
I agree. The only money I'll be spending is on the MTOs and any "surprise" items. Everything is either in the wrong color or cut or just flat out bad. Like >>10609627
is so close to being good but just fails in the end.

>>10609441
Yes and that won’t make me stop. Cry harder about a thread missing that useless word.

>>10609644
I agree with most solids looking a bit off, personally I really don't like those sad looking ruffles. So far the only solid I dig is >>10609609 and that very much depends on whether or not it will have pastel colorways. But it looks like there's potential for more cute blouses overall!

>>10609618
Honestly I don’t know if it’s just the scan being super unflattering or if it’s just a flop. I remember My Favorite Room looking rather boring in the lookbook back then, but now it’s one of my faves. I hope I‘ll have the experience with these. However, the cherry dress still slaps. Anyone caught the dresses‘ names yet?

>>10609507
now that you bring it up, I wish brands released summer dresses made of bamboo or linen, would be a nice change

Any images of the bunny tea party print on a JSK cut?

>>10609616
i kinda like this but it kinda gives me sissy vibes for some reason

>>10609678
it's this one!
>>10609607

>>10609687
Thankyou! I couldn't quite tell if it was a blouse underneath or part of the dress!

>>10609442
>>10609451
>>10609464
>>10609477
>>10609486
Conspiracy theory, since Leur Getter silently went out of business, AP hired their creative director who is a former ETC employee and this is why we're getting a design eerily similar to old ETC.

>>10609689
Looks like a summer version of Lacy Frill blouse.

>>10609692
Honestly I think the design is similar but nowhere near being replica-tier. I like the ETC influence though and your theory would make sense!

>>10609663
Galaxy Cocktail and Cherry Stamp. I don’t know where anons got the Bunny Tea Party, is it the real name? Can’t see it from the pictures.

>>10609694
I agree, it's definitely not a replica, but an inspired piece. Early Leur Getter prints were also heavily ETC-inspired. Some of their macaron dresses are much closer to being a replica of ETC than Cherry Stamp by AP.

>>10609695
I think that anon just meant this looks a bit like CTP with the framed pictures on the bodice and a frilly table cloth on the border.

I like prints in this collection more than those from the past two seasons, especially Galaxy Cocktail. But I feel like the cuts are too casual. Maybe it's the lack of custom lace. Galaxy Cocktail only has bias binding tape on the bottom, Heartful OP uses some sort of mass produced eyelet lace, Polka Dots OP has a ruffle made of the same fabric as the main piece, Cherry Stamp has a very simple scallop lace, and the polkadot apron skirt has a very simple ruffle made of tulle or some other semi-transparent fabric.

>>10609706
I wish Galaxy Cocktail was chiffon.

>>10609643
>zenon

Who said you could give me flashbacks like this?

To the anon who was worried about AP cutting ties with Kira Imai.

>>10609591
Huh, you think AP is going to make sneakers then?

>>10609608
Oh my gosh, the headdress is so cute! I really like this cherry set.

The rest are a little meh for me, but that's fine. Guess I will see once they release more images or see them in motion.
Thanks for posting anon.

>>10609721
How new are you to not know about previous ap sneakers?

>>10609595
I'm excited for all the jewellery that will come with it. Too bad the Star Lollipop Ring doesn't have a price listed in the look book, which means it's probably not going to be rereleased. And the planet clip seems to be part of the JSK.

>>10609600
Seems like there's going to be a rerelease of Stripe Candy Crew Length Socks.

>>10609607
I don't get what the dark purple part of the print on the right of the skirt is supposed to be. Is it a parasol?
>>10609625
I want this Heart Tulle Ribbon beret to go with my Candy Fairy.
>>10609626
The pockets are so weird on this one.

>>10609595
The dress is bad but the accessories are good

>>10609607
>>10609608
>>10609609
>>10609616
Nice to see a few things actually fitting Risa. Maybe I can actually get a few things this year.

>>10609672
Bamboo slaps in the summer time. I’d kill for a bamboo blouse. The material actively cools you off.

>>10609641
space lollipop is way better though. I was actually really surprised by how nice it is irl, and the cuts actually make sense. This just looks really odd, and Tbh alcohol as a theme in sweet Lolita seems really strange to me idk. We’ve got desserts, fruits, children’s toys and ... booze?

>>10609738
ye it kinda looks like the dark purple is part of a pattern on a parasol with yellow fringe

>>10609756
At least we know why AP seems like its been drunk lately.

>>10609715
Her AP drawings are so lifeless compared to her original series.

>>10609616
Strawberry switchblade coord when

>>10609612
I’m not sure if I love this. Are there no pictures standing?

>>10609756
I like Space Lollipop as a print but the fabric is meh with those dots that distract from the illustration. And the JSK cut is really weird.
Why do you assume this has alcohol as a theme though? I mean, not all cocktails contain alcohol. I see it more like some magical futuristic drinks made of Aldehyde, Flanergide and a Powdered Delta. Or maybe I'm wrong and it is indeed alcohol. Ethanol is fermented sugar, so it's almost like it's a dessert, right? Totally fitting for a sweet lolita.

>>10609786
She was probably asked to recreate Risa's listless facial expression.

>>10609795

>>10609802
At least the fabric looks nice.

Did Maki quit? The new prints don’t look like her stuff and the new illustrations lack the whimsical feeling that Maki’s had.

>>10609803
NTA but I actually love space lollipops fabric. It has a very premium feel to it compared to other polyester, and I think the sparkle dot texture really makes it pop irl. Anyways, since when are cocktails not associated with booze? It’s moot point I guess cause that dress is honestly fugly.

>>10609820
I think it’s far more likely that AP switched to Indonesian illustrators that cost pennies on the dollar. Tons of other Japanese illustration based businesses have.

>>10609598
how do you see dress made by Japanese people at a Japanese company for a majority Japanese/Chinese clientele base and think “this is for white women!!”

>>10609756
This isn’t the first print to feature alcohol, merry making party has bottles and drinks on it. And what’s strange about a fashion for adults featuring adult drinks?

>>10609820
No. This was discussed in one of the recent threads.

>>10609830
>since when are cocktails not associated with booze?
Since Millenials and Gen Zers.

>>10609421
Seeing all the picutres, and assuming they're from the same collection I rate it 90% trash. Lrn2 polka dots at least it can't be that hard.

>>10609625
Cinema Doll rerelease?

>>10609865
No, newfag. Just because an item is used in the photo shoots it doesn’t mean it’ll get rereleased

>>10609865
No price is listed for Cinema Doll ring, it just says it's a "reference product". I don't think it's gonna be rereleased based on how "reference products" from the previous look book weren't rereleased. Same goes for Star Lollipop Ring, it says it's a "reference product".
>>10609756
We've also got clinical thermometers, roller skates, shampoo bottles, broomsticks, chandeliers, pentagrams and an unholy amount of crosses. It's not just sweets and toys, AP has way more themes.

>>10609869
Tbf Topping Heart jewelry and Candy Border socks were in the last lookbook too and both got a re-release. Let anon hope

>>10609879
It’s been rereleased a million times. Why does anon need to “hope” when the market is saturated with them?

>>10609879
Both had their prices listed in the last look book though.

>>10609879
They weren't "reference products" though. E.g. Elegant Lady Choker was listed as a "reference product" in the last lookbook and it we didn't get a rerelease.

>>10609869
But this is specifically a lookbook made ti advertise products for summer, it’s not a photo shoot just for fun. They wouldn’t list it if they didn’t plan on releasing it again. Advertising old product wouldn’t get them any money.

>>10609888
You are retarded.

>>10609888
Please read this messages above.

>>10609881
>>10609883
Ah my bad, the replies about the reference product bit didn't load for me at the time I posted. I stand corrected then.

>>10609888
How can you be this dense?

>>10609857
Did I say it was designed for white women? All I said was that it'd be popular with the wine moms. Learn to read.

>>10610052
> I can see the white women creaming themselves over it already.

Kys

>>10610078
No u

>>10609857
Anon is insecure about her race and thinks only white women drink kek

>>10609857
>>10610078
>>10610127
t. triggered wine moms

>>10609598
I'm actually sad because I am a wine mom and I fucking hate this print.

>>10609830
AYRT Huh, maybe I'm biased towards that kind of fabric. I often associate film cut chiffon (don't know if this is the right term in English, but this is how it's called in Japanese) with cheap Taobao releases. If you own other AP chiffon dresses (plain non-textured chiffon like Misty Sky), how would you say the fabric compares to SL?

>>10610205
NAYRT but I have a couple of cut chiffon prints from meta (ie: secret lab) and they're extremely nice. They're very flowy and almost silky to the touch.
Like with raschel lace, it gets a bad rap because there's so much shit quality ones that most people see. But there is indeed some lovely quality of chiffon and raschel lace out there.

>>10610154
Hi IVB

I really don't like anything except the rabbit one but even then it isn't that spectacular. I'm kind of disappointed.

>>10610350
Agreed. More money to spend on the rereleases I guess.

>>10609863
That's hilarious. Statistically, millennials drink a lot.

>>10610350
this. I really dont like any of them...

>>10610358
Statistically everyone everywhere drinks a lot, generally speaking.

>>10610360
In comparison to other generations back when they were the same age, obviously.

>>10610343
Kek anon that’s what I thought

>>10610343
Kek I laffed

>>10609474
Go save them then. What are you doing sitting in your comfy home on your phone/computer (created with slave labor) by surrounded by everything you own that is also a product of slave labor. Get off your lazy SJW ass and go save them! And stop consuming while you're at it. Quit contributing to genocide.... Fuck off wokefag.

>>10610729
This print is so beautiful, thankyou for the picture.

>>10610733
It’s called Usagi’s Picnic Party

>>10608649
I only realised I had already seen some new items from the lookbook after receiving my copy.
>>10608650
Glad if I could be useful, anon. On a side note, I don't think there will be matching OTKs in sax.
>>10608679
It's actually safe to assume it's being rereleased unless they explicitly state that the apron is 参考商品. Unfortunately, I don't have the lookbook at hand right now to check.
>>10609624
Heartful OP will indeed come in a pastel colour. It's kinda hard to see on the photo, but AP used red gimp braid trim (I hope this is the right term) on the skirt and another type of braided trim on the collar and sleeves of this OP.
>>10609627
The apron on this photo is a separate item, not part of the OP.

Latest prophecies:
a rerelease of a popular jewellery series
a new blouson with a detacheable hood
a rerelease of an old cutsew (I find its cut weird)

>>10610755
Oh please let it be Tokimeki Ribbon jewelry...
Is it jewelry that's fairy recent? Or old sweet style things?

>>10610756
It's very recent, released this year.

>>10610758
Hm. My best bet is the Milky Bear or JCT jewelry then. If it's the JCT jewelry, I regret buying so much from Paris (dollar exchange rate is horrible). MaaaybeMpco Moco Bunnies jewelry.

>>10610758
I wonder if it's Bunny Tag

>>10610748
Do you know if Cherry Stamp will have anymore colourways outside of pink, red and black? Really hoping for a sax ver, but I feel like I'm getting my hopes up for nothing

>>10610767
I also would love a sax version of this!

>>10610748
Thankyou angelic prophet! :) any more idea about when/where the unique colourway LBS will be released?

>>10610729
it looks like unbirthday

>>10610729
I kind of don’t want it anymore it looks loveless/ as if something is missing

>>10610824
it looks like taobao. one thing that reads taobao to me is the size/scale of the border print. look at older AP prints and you'll see what i mean. this one, the border print is scaled badly so there's a lot of nothing taking up a lot of space.

>>10610758
Hm I think maybe Topping Heart again. Would be nice to get another shot at that white colorway.

>>10610767
>>10610806
cosigned, I'm hoping for a "cool" colorway- mint, sax, or lavender. maybe a Special Set?

>>10610841
Mint, sax or lavender would all make me happy! I think they would all look great with the contrasting red cherry print :)

>>10610843
fingers crossed anon! :) I'd really love any of the 3, but sax would be especially perfect imo!

>>10610834
On point anon. Reminds me also of when westerners try to make border print dresses. I’m just hoping for cute accessories at this point. I need bunny ear socks.

>>10609618
This is like an ugleir version of Charlotte's Bear

>>10610729
>hey can you remake CTP but outdoors and socially distant

>>10610959
I love it tho ngl

>>10610729
I want to like it, but the border is so lazy, the lace looks so boring and the ribbon on the waist? A cheap, mis-matched mess. I used to find the little details endearing, not disappointing.

>>10610987
Good, one less person I have to fight for it.

>>10610729
This looks like their cheap shitty poly.
It's a shame because I really liked CTP in cotton.

Did we ever get this orange-y looking star/gummy bag? It's living in my head. Help.

Better photo of the bunny print, it’s this years Imai Kira collab, Usagi Picnic Party

>>10611138
We did not. Kinda wondering myself what happened to it.

>>10611189
It will probably be released one of these days, the milky bear face bag took some time until its release too

>>10610729
I’m sorry but what’s the point of having a lace print when there’s actual lace on the hem? Really throws an otherwise good design off, what a shame.

>>10611182
Not a fan of the print itself, but I always like the shades of pink and purple Kira Imai uses in her designs. It feels very different from normal AP pinks.

>>10611192
I don't think it will ever be released. The milky bear bag was in the lookbook but the gummy twinkle star wasn't.

>>10610812
>>10610907
I don't see how it's similar to either Unbirthday or Charlotte's Bear. Yes, it's the same illustrator, but the composition, the hues and the cut are vastly different.

>>10611182
ah, now that I can see it closer it's similar to cat's tea party. I don't like this colorway, but if the bunnies have sassy faces I may have to buy it.

>>10611200
It reminds me of a weird bunny ver. mashup of CTP and Unbirthday desu

I wonder what will be released this Friday

>>10611239
My guess is maybe the blouse that is worn in the LBS pictures, maybe with some extra accessories/socks? Or it could be Fantastic Balloon...

>>10609692
>>10609698
> Early Leur Getter prints were also heavily ETC-inspired
it's the same fucking person that's why, they left ETC to start Leur Getter

>>10611217
Agreed

>>10611240
>the blouse that is worn in the LBS pictures
It's been released twice already.
>>10611247
Ayrt, that's exactly what I said in my post:
>AP might have hired
>Leur Getter's creative director
>who is a former ETC employee
No need to get angry.

>>10611239
>>10611240
We're likely getting Heartfull OP this week and hopefully some LBS jewellery and matching socks. I want to finally own a complete LBS set.

>>10611259
I'm talking to the other person who's calling LG stuff replicas of ETC and included your original post as reference that they're the same person.

>>10611268
My bad. Didn't notice that you were answering to another anon.

>>10611270
It's cool. I thought it was pretty well-known that they were the same person hence the similarities, guess not.

>>10611266
I'd think Fantasic Balloon since iirc it's the final series from the spring collection. then maybe one of the summer prints the following week

>>10610729
whens this shit coming out i need it

Sorry for the derail but where there scans of the spring lookbook posted here aswell? I already looked in the archives but I’m probably too dumb to navigate or the archive is a mess

>>10611292
Yes the spring lookbook was posted in previous ap threads as well, please use the stupid questions thread next time and lurk moar.

>>10611182
Man I miss the old days of ap’s cute busy backgrounds for new release photos. Why is she just standing in front of a weird blank off white background? Fir that matter, I’m sick of risa too.

>>10611322
I don't dislike Risa, I just dislike her seeming lack of enthusiasm. I much prefer RinRin, Misako, or people who are really into lolita and excited to wear it. Even most other Asian models tend to look bubbly or happy but Risa barely ever cracks a tiny smile. Reminds me of Mandy from the Grimm Adventures of Billy and Mandy. I bet she'll tear a hole in the fabric of reality if she ever dares to look like she's having fun in a stock image.

In her defense though, anyone would have a hard time feeling cute and happy in some of the nu-sweet shit AP puts out. If the lookbook is any indication, the spring pieces this year were a fluke and AP is for the most part going back to making ugly (to me at least) dresses. LBS was a breath of fresh air and I hope it

>>10611324
Risa is also really rude IRL

>>10611327
Sauce, anon-san?

>>10611279
It's gotta be Fantastic Balloon. I can't imagine it being anything else since we're still in the spring season, unless it's a rerelease item.

>>10611386
People have talked about her being rude here for years, newfag.

>>10611388
You lack imagination then. I can imagine AP pulling any kind of shit.

>>10611386
nayrt but there’s been conversations about her being a cunt irl dating back to 2017 at least

>>10611327
>>10611390
>>10611399
There's also been anons who said that she's not rude, just awkward and standoff-ish due to the language barrier.

>>10611418
Nayrt but I speak Japanese just fine and have been a translator at cons before for the Japanese guests and she’s been super rude to me before. But I guess it’s just a “language barrier” that’s making her rude, huh?

>>10611418
I don’t know why people are struggling to admit she blatantly has an attitude problem. It’s been talked about for a very long time and the main excuse is her having a language barrier but other Japanese guests manage to be relatively friendly even with a language barrier. Not speaking the same language doesn’t suddenly make you be cold and roll your eyes at people.

>>10611419
Well what are the examples then? Genuinely interested because for all these years it's usually only been vague rumors, it doesn't help that other anons who also met her at teaparties before said that she's not rude.

>>10611422
All I'm saying is that both sides have been prevalent for all this time, personally I don't find that it's enough information for me to form an unbiased opinion. I have never met her myself either so there's no way I can judge.

>>10611432
If you’ve never met her it’s weird you’re this defensive over her not being rude

>>10611435
Anon pls I just want to know the truth, I'm tired of rumors

To any and all fatty-chans, Risa once had a public meltdown on twitter over gaining 1lb. She would look at you in disgust

>>10611436
You must really be stupid. It’s likely that both sides are telling the truth. Some people meet her on good days and then she’s rude on other days. But I can’t give my specific experiences because the people I work with who read here would know. I’m not the only one who’s had bad experiences working with her though, I’ll say that. Ever since the Gucci thing she’s been particularly bad.

>>10611437
Her body is her career, makes sense. Also she is so small framed that 1lb prolly looks like 5 on her.

>>10611440
She’s not all that small in person really. Other models like Kubayashi make her look more filled out in comparison

>>10611440
She’s not all that small in person really. Other models like Kurebayashi make her look more filled out in comparison

>>10611439
Maybe I am kek but it actually makes sense to me that her attitude would change after modeling for Gucci. Thanks for responding anyway

>>10611443
Kurebayashi seems like she is living the life; cute af, barely aging, still having fun makeup and hair, and always super sweet and happy in videos at least.

>>10611437
Laugh all you want, but she's gained close to 10lb since a few years ago. AP doesn't look as baggy on her as before

>>10611443
Kurebayaashi seems like she’s normal thin to me? Risa was always a bit spoopier than the other models, especially in the face and with how clothing always seemed to drape off of her

>>10611447
I think they just stopped letting the clothes drape on her, they pin them on her now because that “uwu im so smol im swimming in this dress” trend seems to be going out of style. All of the arm holes on OPs have to be pinned tighter on her and they’re probably tacking the dress in the bodice area too.

>>10611453
No, look at her arms and legs. They're not as thin as before. She started gaining weight a while back.

>>10611456
Well good for her, then. She’s still extremely thin, she’s thin enough to still model in Japan and model for AP. She’s in her 30s now and even Japanese models don’t stay super thin forever.

>>10611460
Japanese models aren't runway model thin and never were. If you look at most old larme models, she was always a lot thinner than them. Also she hasn't had that hair color nor that hairstyle in a long time

>>10611464
I’m not sure what your point is because I never said she was runway models thin, I never said she was bigger than the other larme models and I didn’t say it was a recent photo

>>10611419
I've been to events she was a guest at and she's more stand offish to anyone who isn't Japanese. I've commented on this in past threads and was told the same language barrier garbo. Don't be a guest overseas if you're going to act like a shit stain.

>>10611473
To be fair a ton of people overseas who aren't Japanese are obese and ugly.

>>10611474
There are plenty of uggo obese Japanese too, anon.

>>10611477
Yeah but on average far fewer.

>>10611478
That doesn’t give her an excuse to be rude to someone not bothering her at all. She’s being paid to appear at these events

>>10611474
She’s being paid to be a guest. It doesn’t matter what the attendees look like. The bare minimum for what she should be doing is not being standoffish to attendees

>>10611482
>>10611481
Oh I don't think she should be rude, but I can understand being uncomfortable being fawned over by people who may or may not gross you out. Like imagine a sissy shows up, wouldn't it make most people uncomfortable, paid to appear at an event or not? Fat people aren't as bad as sissies, but similar concept.

>>10611483
>obese people are a similar concept to sexual predators

I hate fatty-chans as much as the next gull but this is a beyond retarded take

>>10611483
It’s literally part of the job of con guests to be nice to attendees. People are paying to see them and they’re expected to act a certain way. She doesn’t have to be warm and enthusiastic about each and every person like Haruka is but goddamn she could at least not be a bitch and roll her eyes at people.

>>10611488
Yeah like I said being a bitch isn't cool, she should be polite but I can understand if she's the type to melt down over gaining 1lb that she is likely sensitive and made uncomfortable by fat people because of her own insecurities and may not approach everyone warmly. If she truly melted down publicly on Twitter over 1lb weight gain she is mentally ill and needs help but it explains why she might be a bitch to anyone she sees as a 'fat foreigner'.

Also the Japanese are extremely xenophobic, we all already know this.

>>10611490
It’s not just to fatties. People who have modeled in fashion shows with her complain about her attitude. If she’s so batshit crazy she can’t manage to even look at a fat person without being rude to them she needs to be locked up in a mental hospital, not being paid to interact with fans.

>>10611490
Why are you assuming she's rude only to fat people? She was off-putting to my friends and I at a few events in both Japan and America. We are not ham planets either.

>>10611491
>If she’s so batshit crazy she can’t manage to even look at a fat person without being rude to them she needs to be locked up in a mental hospital, not being paid to interact with fans.
Oh yeah, definitely. I'm not excusing her behavior, just thinking of explanations for why she is doing it.

I think even regardless of her shit behavior I want AP to use a different model because she is doing a shit job at making the brand's clothes look desirable, which is what models are supposed to be doing. Lifestyle lolitas/jfashion wearers like Misako, RinRin, or other people who have nice attitudes in and out of photos and make the clothes look happy and fun, not sad, oversized, and boring.

>>10611492
I'm assuming she is only rude to foreigners, some of which are fat, all of which are non-Japanese, which is what people stated, that she is mean to all non-Japanese people basically, and I did say >>10611490 that the Japanese can be pretty xenophobic.

>>10611494
So why aren’t the majority of Japanese guests acting like Risa if it’s because so many Japanese people are xenophobic? Oh right, because they understand they’re being paid to be there so they don’t act like cunts to the attendees.

>>10611495
Japanese people being xenophobic in general doesn't mean every single person expresses it or expresses it identically. Risa is just shit at her job. Modelling and being at events.

just dropping in but i think it's also pertinent to note that Risa was born privileged--her dad is an actor/musician and her mom is an actress, and the former was pretty successful.

i think that also contributes to her personality problem t b h. we're all peons to her. and i can understand that, but maybe she could try making it a little less obvious.

>>10611497
>Risa is just shit at her job

This is literally the point we are trying to make.

>>10611499
I never said she wasn't. I literally said I also want her to be fired. I was just speculating on reasons why she acts the way she does. >>10611498 also made a good point about her social status and all as well.

>>10611490
not every person attending lolita events is fat. in fact i would argue the kind of person attending a brand specific event is the kind of person that regularly fits into the brand.

photos from an ap paris tea party and im not seeing anyone here who is fat.

>>10611511
There are plenty of people who are fat here. I circled them for you

>>10611511
everyone in the bottom row is fat

>>10611511
8/20 people in this photo are fat by asian standards.

>>10611517
theyre all fat by asian standards but if Risa is so offended by the existence of fat people she cant help but be rude to anyone over 120 pounds then shes severely mentally ill and wouldnt be able to have a career

>>10611515
they're also dressed fine, seem clean and polite. the way >>10611474 phrased it, risa couldn't help but be mean to obese and ugly overseas tea party guests.

>>10611521
Lol, 120lb. They wish they were even close to that. Try 160lb

>>10610385
Kek'd

>>10611526
last i checked 160 counts as being over 120.

>>10611514
They're not fat, they're average if anything. I hope you catch a ban for not censoring their faces.

>>10611541
Faces don't have to be censored on here. There's literally nothing in the rules

when will americans learn their image of average is skewed and distorted by the lakes of butter they swim in

>>10611546
i mean.. >>10611511 is euros and half of them are fat, so...

>>10611541
I’m not even the one who originally posted them. Why are you so pissed?

Looks like it’s Heartfull this week.

>>10611580
Unlucky, I was hoping for Fantastic Balloon.

>>10611580
they really just decided to stock everything at once this weekend, huh?

can anyone share with the class what Risa has done or caps of her twitter meltdown, or does her rudeness amount to resting bitch face

>>10611586
I saw Risa Nakamura at a conbini in Roppongi recently. I told her how cool it was to meet her in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother her and ask her for photos or anything.
She said, “Eh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “eh?” but she kept cutting me off and going “eh? eh? eh?” and closing her hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard her chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw her trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Crunky Bars in her hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Okyakusama, you need to pay for those first.” At first she kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When the cashier took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, Risa stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, Risa kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>>10611586
At one of the tea parties she modeled at, she was sitting on the floor close to the bathrooms with her face buried in her phone. She was by herself so I said hello and asked her in Japanese if she was okay. She barked back that she was fine and turned to face the wall. I was shocked at how shrill she was when she replied. I have other stories but my friends would recognize the situation if they read it.

>> 10611588
New thread guys

>>10611586
To give Risa some benefit of the doubt, there are some articles from the Japanese rumor mill that she has some degree of mental struggle and is just generally a shy person.
She took a break in 2018 from acting activities for health reasons.
https://www.cyzo.com/2018/02/post_149812_entry.html

I personally think she is just not good at expressing herself/not good with strangers (which yes, is somewhat ironic for an actress). iirc she went to school (university) for acting, but dropped out, it's unclear if it was really to pursue modeling or maybe she didn't have good potential at the time.
At the AP tea party last year on zoom, Risa seemed to be trying hard to make small contributions to the conversation and smiled a lot for the camera.

>>10611645
This makes her sound mentally ill af. I wonder if she'll ever realize this is really abnormal

>>10611645
New pasta is born

>>10611645
Similar thing happened to me years ago but with FlyLo

my own experience is minor, i was the last person in the “dressing room” (i was volunteer modeling) and i quickly told her i was a fan and happy to work with her today, but she outright ignored me and kept taking selfies for the ‘gram lol. i guess people should take these with a grain of salt though since it’s hearsay, but basically don’t be disappointed when you meet her.

also she’s very pretty irl, but AP shops her kind of a lot. she looks closer to how she does in that one makeup tutorial video she did.

>>10611686
Do they shoop her lips bigger or her eyes?

>>10611688
her lip and eye shape are basically the same—but i think it’s mostly face shape, cheeks, and jowls (I can’t think of a more flattering word rip). they remove all texture but she has some lines. i think meeting her in person, the skin quality and some lines near the nose/mouth with resting face was what surprised me the most.

>>10611690
Like her face is more round/doughy irl?

>>10611692
It seems like she has very prominent nasolabial folds? All of her social media photos make them look nonexistent but irl it's pretty much impossible to hide the shadows.

>>10611683
Anon.... this pasta is old.

>>10611696
nasolabial folds! that's the word i was looking for. i know they're kind of a meme and they happen to everyone, but it looks like they really do clone stamp them/blur them out and so does she.

>>10611588 new thread
For an OP who can't provide links.

Dang I missed the Paris reservations :(

>>10609612
That bodice makes her look chunky I don’t stand a chance in hell of looking cute in that cut. What an unfortunate waist height and boob ruffle

>>10609803
Alcohol is served at a lot of brand events so what’s the problem? Cute cocktails are a very girly thing

>>10612125
Ayrt, I don't have a problem if it's alcohol. >>10609756 found it strange, not me.
I was simply describing my initial associations upon seeing the print. Since it's a space print, my thoughts went into the direction of sci-fi literature and movies. They often have all sorts of weird compounds people (and aliens) are consuming.

>>10611670
>Risa Nakamura
It's not unheard of for models to be forced into working for one reason or another. Most models are working of their own free will, but there are those rare few that are bullied into working. Often times, drugs will even be used to force them into compliance. 'Shyness' is often the excuse.

>>10609456
Well, I've never bought lolita clothing, brand or otherwise, in my life, and I am sympathetic Uighurs are being forced into slave labor.

However, angry dialogue on an image board is not going to help save Uighurs from slave labor, but national governments banning the import of fabrics produced via slave labor & the import of manufactured garments in which the raw material is produced via slave labor would help stop Uighars from being forced into labor.