/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

The next MTO better be announced at the Laforet Party, or it's just over for all of us.

Is it me or have Paris VIP bloodbaths seems calmer? Before they were just as bad as everything else, but the past 2-3 releases they've been somewhat more relaxed.

>>10626131
Paris is getting slightly more stock these days.

There were only two prints besides Rabbit Picnic Party in the summer lookbook, right? The ETC-esque cherry one and Galaxy Cocktail? So few

>>10626042
Summer must be in full fucking swing because my god. Do you mean the Laforet private party or Grandba because they're two entirely different events.

Has anyone noticed that the AP twitter only follows Risa other than their other shops? Is she their muse?

Was pink the most popular colorway for the Glitter Ribbon jewelry in Japan?

>>10627033
nayrt, but really, anon...?

>>10627035
I don't know, look at at all the model photoes and lookbooks.

When / where is the first state-site tea party happening? Cali stopped following lockdown months ago.

>>10627040
Weird to have a muse that actively does not promote your brand. Every other fashion muse does so...it's also her most high profile gig too. But shitting on AP is on point for the brand, so it makes sense.

>>10627015
we will probably get a fall lookbook in august, maybe even sooner. last year, the ugly world map print was previewed at the end of june, posted in a lookbook in july and released in august and it was considered part of the fall 2020 collection.

>>10627040
>Cali stopped following lockdown months ago
Lol anon...what? I live in the bay area and everyone has been taking masking pretty seriously. About 90% of people I see are still wearing masks/social distancing indoors and outdoors. California "reopens" on the 15th this month and that's the first time masks won't be required at all.

>>10627046

I miss AP using models that looked happy to wear lolita.

>>10627057
>tfw it will never be 2009 again

>>10627058
reject modernity, embrace tradition

>>10627059
And to think most lolitas shit over this style in the mid to late 2010s. I was able to buy almost all of my AP dream dresses and accessories during this era because they weren't popular.

>>10627059
>>10627058
Aren't these designers of AP? Meaning, if these photos are from 2009 and they still work there... Maybe they doesn't feel like modeling their own products at their current age?

>>10627064
anon.....no. >>10627058 is amo on the right and i forgot the name of the model on the left but she did a lot of KERA modeling back then

and >>10627059 is kimura u, amo and chikage.

>>10627062
it wasnt shit on at all. AP was surpassing BTSSB as one of the most popular brands. everyone loved it.

>>10627064
samefag but this isn't even about needing to use the same models. they could get new younger models and still have them present a fun, energetic brand image. but now AP actively tells its runway models at events to not smile or wave.

i dont think age is an issue either. misako is in her 30s and so is risa. they just are stuck in the sad sexy baby prostitute aesthetic.

>>10627057
I can't with AP right now because it's just so creepy that it looks like she hates wearing everything and is dead inside

>>10627059
Man, every time I see stuff I've this, I'm reminded that modern AP is actual dog shit. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - I think AP is on a steady decline and might lose the cult following in a few years.

>>10627067
AP has always been the popular brand but older sweet prints and motifs fell out of style for years.

>>10627075
>I think AP is on a steady decline and might lose the cult following in a few years.

They’ve never been so popular. You can hate modern AP all you want, but they aren’t in danger of losing anything.

>>10627071
Pretty accurate mood for the pandemic t b h

>>10627078
I honestly feel like AP is only popular because people (Chinese lolitas and covidlitas mainly) like the old releases so much. Then that spills over to "liking" the current releases because ~it's AP~. I don't think the illusion can keep going for too much longer though. You don't see $1k-2k WTBs for the new releases.
I don't think AP is going to close down or anything, just that it will be much less relevant after a few more years of same-y limp polyester all-over print releases. I mean look at us already - no one even talked about the dresses in the latest release. The only thing people barely cared about were the aprons and jewelry.

>>10627092
I would love to get excited about AP solids, but last week was another dress with a sheer overlayer, another muted floral with white. It's so boring. Looking forward to that polkadot heart apron skirt though.

>>10627092
>You don't see $1k-2k WTBs for the new releases.
What other brand has 1-2k WTBs for new releases? This is a weird standard to set for them. You see $400-500 scalper listings for their new releases, which didn't happen ever before. The demand right now is insane and it's always the same sour grapes people mad that AP isn't Old AP anymore and wanting them to fail/become less relevant because of it. There is zero evidence of this so called decline that everyone keeps trying to manifest on them. Fatties do this a lot too.

>>10627119
BTW nothing wrong with liking Old AP better, you are objectively right, but ask yourself if it's clouding your judgement of reality

>>10627119
Sorry, I realize my last post wasn't super clear - my context here was that old AP releases are being sold for $1-2k, and there are often WTBs for this much as well. I've had people personally message me out of no where, offering thousands of dollars for old AP stuff.
I was trying to point out that even popular releases like JCT and Ice Cream Parlor don't have people thirsting after them, to the same level as old AP. I'm 100% being biased here, because I think new AP is embarrassing, but I think there's some proof in the way prices are manifesting. It is way cheaper to buy new than it is to buy secondhand. Sure, AP sells out of everything, everytime. But that's because more people are in the fashion now than ever before. It's not because AP is "better" or even more "popular." It's just a result of AP never increasing supply.

>>10627092
>I mean look at us already - no one even talked about the dresses in the latest release.

I don’t like most of APs solids right now, but even back in the years everyone is so nostalgic for, people didn’t excitedly discuss solid releases with only a few exceptions. There’s just never been as much hype for solids. Candy Fairy for example has gotten more popular with time, it wasn’t very popular upon release. And Nakayoshi Bunny was met with a resounding “it’s cute but the bonnet looks like a satellite dish”

>>10627121
>I was trying to point out that even popular releases like JCT and Ice Cream Parlor don't have people thirsting after them

I can’t think of any time when a new release immediately turned around and got sold for thousands. Even Sugary Carnival in the heyday of the print didn’t go for that much when it was new. It takes awhile for a dress to reach that status. It took Honey Cake over 5 years for that to happen.

>>10626042
i just want old hime-like dresses from ap please make them come back.
- Angelic Princess OP
- Dress Up Princess Dress
- Princess Rococo OP
- Heavenly Banquet OP
- Princess Of Roses Dress (2017)

>>10627183
I believe the quickest to increase in price was the original release of CTP.

>>10627193
yeah, CTP was the rare exception. i stiil dont understand the hype behind that release that made it go for so much so fast.

>>10627519
It's the bitchy feline faces.

>>10627571
It was mostly the exclusivity because it was so insanely limited at first. Holy Lantern is another I can think of that sold for a ton here and there initially though not as consistently as CTP.

>>10627519
Before the MTO, only a few CTPs even existed. The rarity by itself merited the high prices.
What I don't get is things like Dream Fantasy and Decoration Dream going for $600+. I already have multiple colorways of both, but those dresses aren't particularly rare or in physically short supply.
Side conversation, but I was talking to a friend recently and we were both kind of shaking our heads at how individual dresses don't "mean" anything anymore. Newbies don't discern between different releases and there's no basis or value. It's just "it's old pastel AP" and suddenly every dress is $1k+ even if it's from a lucky pack. That's my number one reason why I don't think sweet prices will ever come back down to 2016-2018 levels. We've broken the glass ceiling that once was CTP and Puppet Circus.

I hope it’s Galaxy Cocktail this week. Not because I want the dress (I don’t) but because I want the jewelry, and even if they’re not released together the sooner we get the dress the sooner we get the jewelry.

>>10627627
I'm eagerly awaiting its release, too, mostly because of the jewellery. Unfortunately, it's too early for Galaxy Cocktail.

>>10627627
The jewelry looked interesting, but none of the colors seemed very good

>>10627608
It wasn't even that limited. The first release MTO was available to everyone. The online shop started accepting reservations on August 25, 2012, less than a month after the two tea parties where initial preorders for the collab items had been accepted.

>>10627626
>only a few CTPs even existed
This is a myth that has been debunked by Asuka. It's not like they only made 20 pieces first.

>>10627643
Wasn't the CTP MTO a tea party exclusive at first? Or do you mean HL? HL wasn't limited but was just so popular the people who couldn't or didn't get it but wanted it did pay a lot a few times for it.

>>10627639
Yeah AP has had some whack color palettes lately. I snagged jelly candy toys on impulse but regretted it immediately because the color palette is just bizarre. The teal-ish color and shades of pink don’t match literally anything else in my wardrobe. Galaxy cocktail is just weird all around imho.

>>10627648
I meant CTP. Yes, first preorders were taken at the tea parties (two of them were held over the weekend), but as I said, CTP MTO was available to everyone in less than a month after that.

>>10627665
Right, my point was that at first it was really exclusive, and then MTO after that but with the community being much smaller and not a ton of people necessarily buying it, there were probably less total in circulation prior to the rerelease than you might expect for a standard release AND if people were going to buy this piece they probably wanted to keep it; combined with dress turnover in the fashion probably not being as crazy high as it's been since the rise of instagram, people back then weren't as eager to buy a dress for one pic and then resell the way many do now so it wouldn't have even come up secondhand as much.

Then once one or two people decide to pay big bucks for it, the piece becomes cemented as a status symbol and worth a lot, and for some pieces it stays like that for a while regardless of popularity because no one wants to sell it for retail when someone else got 1k. It's like how PC is finally slowly selling for less and less secondhand despite being more rare and special than like, SC which was overpriced bc of sweet boom bullshit.

There is really not always much logic to what sells for a lot besides the amount of cash people have to blow on a whim for a dress and how much those selling secondhand want to exploit that desperation (if they want to more power to them), so even if logically CTP was never as rare as people thought, the circumstances surrounding it leading to the slight rarity being exaggerated fucked with demand and what people would shell out for it in a particular way that impacted its price long term.

>>10627033
Kek this post is peak cgl, so wrong yet so aggressive

>>10627643
It was limited in the fact that not many people reserved it. The release happened when the yen was much stronger than the dollar. The set cost over 500 USD after converting the currency so not many people bought it.

>>10627694
Yeah, they just spent $1k+ to buy it secondhand instead.

Question for anyone else who got usagi picnic party- Does the sewn in tag match the paper tag? The paper tag is the lavender/purple one while the sewn in tag is pink on mine.

>>10627694
You do realise that the exchange rate didn’t matter for the absolute majority of people who reserved it it cause they were paying in JPY, right?

>>10627724
I read a blog post claiming it was actually like 78 JPY to 1 USD so if you were American and buying it you actually got a better deal after the currency exchange.

>>10627728
Tell me you don’t know how exchange rate works without telling me you don’t know how exchange rate works

>>10627728
Nta but I feel dumb. That's not a good rate. 78 yen to the dollar is a 22% loss. In recent years it's been more like 110 yen to the dollar.

>>10627758
I might have read/interpreted it backwards lol, sorry.

>>10627759
You're not dumb, I just got things mixed up

>>10627758
gettin real tired of this zoomer meme being used around here lately and im a zoomer myself

(mostly joking you do you anon)

>>10627728
I bought the original from the international site when it was released. The conversion rate was terrible at the time, it ended up being $600 after shipping, despite the set being 47500 yen or whatever it was.

>>10627767
Next time I’ll just call them a fucking idiot then

>>10627772
do it anon, i miss when we called each other retards more desu

>>10627626
> What I don't get is things like Dream Fantasy and Decoration Dream going for $600+

The exact same reason honey cake started going for a lot, people realized they liked the print or changed their opinion on it. Personally I didn’t care for decoration dream when it came out but it’s grown on me. It had pretty bad series photos and at the time everyone wanted milky planet or sugary carnival (which was rereleased in 2011)

The big releases that year were SC rerelease, toy fantasy, twinkle carnival, dream sky and chess chocolate. French cafe, aqua princess and decoration dream did okay. honey cake, petit patissire, the country of sweets rerelease, sugar hearts, sheep garden and triple tart were met with just a shrug.

2011-2013 are transitional years for AP, it’s when they stopped using the catalog style here >>10627058 and started to embrace making mini skirts and casual items.

>>10627724
Do you...... I can't even make a coherent reply to your idiotic post. You're just fucking dumb.

>>10627783
It was a very weird era for AP

>>10627783
>The exact same reason honey cake started going for a lot, people realized they liked the print or changed their opinion on it.
This was also the deal with CTP. At the time no one thought much of it, but it just began to just live rent free in people's minds and people regretted sleeping on it.
So it's somewhat hard to predict what will turn around in popularity due to things like CTP and honeycake being sleeper items.
I feel like a lot of the people who are shitting on usagi picnic party will eventually change their tune.

>>10627626
There's a Decoration Dream up on LM now for 600 USD. The seller altered it and the elastic on the straps are completely blown out yet the seller has the audacity to charge that much. This sweet boom needs to stop.

>>10627784
The majority (~90%) of orders for the original CTP came from Japanese customers. They didn’t care about USD/JPY exchange rate.

>>10627784
Get a load of this Amerifat

>>10627787
Not a fan of this styling, but Macaron Tartan series were so refreshing back then. I like it when AP is experimenting with cuts.

Cherries, yukatas, seashells.

>>10628052
Cherry stamp this weekend??

No idea about the seashells though, rerelease of an other print?

Guessing that the yukata is the bunny strawberry print

>>10628052
Crossing my fingers for the yukata! I hope it’s a print I like. Curious about the seashells. I love the seashell lace on Marine Kingdom so I hope it’s that on a solid dress.

>>10628052
Any casual footwear upcoming?

>>10628079
Im with ya anon, gimmie the sneaks my body and soul are ready.

>>10628209
I think my favorite part about AP releasing sneakers again is that when people say they aren't lolita or shouldn't be worn I can point at the casual coords in the model photos and just leave it at the fact that it's AP rather than arguing what's allowed or too casual.

>>10628212
Are people still claiming that all brand sneakers were meant for fairy kei or whatever even though some colorways like black and red don't work with fk at all?

>>10628052
Will it be cherry stamp? Is there a sax/mint colourway or just the red/pink/black?

>>10628293
Yes. A lot of nu-sweets have retardation like that.
If they're not tea parties or similar they're not lolita.
I have a pair of black sneakers from AaTP and let me tell you how fairy kei they are. /sarcasm

>>10627092
Once the Chinese market bust you'll see AP another brands that shilled for Chinese money do a turn face and shill back to their actually audience

>>10628336
Chinese have been part of the fashion for longer than most US lolitas

>>10628293
Fairy kei isn’t just pastels. A lot of old actual fairy kei used red

>>10628304
Kek it's always the newfriends and LJ oldhags who haven't kept up with anything lolita-related since LJ was last relevant

>>10628338
Good thing no one mentioned US lolitas?

>>10628340
You can have little tiny amounts of red but fairy has never used significant amounts of red larper. How is the concept of “pastel only” this hard to understand?

>>10628344
Fairy kei in Japan uses all colors, including red and black. It’s only retarded westerners like yourself who think it’s only pastels.

>>10628348
>citation needed

Crying over not getting a dress seems pathetic, but I really wanted Little Bunny Strawberry

>>10628357
same, anon, same :'(

>>10628348
Mhm that’s totally why the フェアリー系 tag on wear. jp and other Japanese dominated outfit sharing websites has *so* much black and red. Got it. Totally must be true because it’s *so* common.

>>10628079
Eventually yes, but probably not this week.
>>10628302
There is a fourth colourway. It's sort of a paler dustier mint and the stripes do not stand out as much as on the other three colourways. They also changed the background colour on the stamps for the mint version.

>>10628357
>>10628372
You might still have a chance of getting that special LBS colourway that was promised.

>>10628348
fairy kei uses pastels. you're thinking of decora or pop kei which are similar looking but not the same style. i do agree though that AP was taking lots of inspiration from those styles during the 2010s and there was lots of overlap between AP sweet and fairy kei/pop kei/spank/decora styles, but the key there is that there was overlap. similarly to now, many lolitas rejected the newer trends that AP was following and ignored the fact that AP was clearly trying to push things like sneakers and mini skirts to their customers. honestly AP is the most like "fast fashion" of all the major brands, because they follow trends so closely and in turn don't have much consistency (unlike brands like baby that makes the same kind of prints and styles that they did 10 years ago.) though, honestly, this is probably why AP is always so popular. they're on top of trends and therefore have wider appeal, that gets them more customers but unfortunately strains their regular customer base who like the look of certain releases that AP stops making.

>>10628340
>A lot of old actual fairy kei used red
Sure thing it did. For prints with strawberries and cherries.

>>10628620
The mint makes me so excited! Thankyou!

>>10628052
is AP finally releasing the shell bag from the 2019 fashion show? LOL

>>10628623
“Pop kei” isn’t real, it all comes from spank influenced style and fairy kei was the name it was given by westerners that stuck, and it used darker colors like black often.

>>10628693
Wasn't pop-kei just what most people call spank!-kei? Like I know westerners give a bunch of names to certain stuff but calling it spank! style seems most accurate.

>>10628694
Yes. Interjecting. I also know spank-kei as pop-kei and interchanged the two. There's no stand alone pop-kei.

>>10628623 Is smoking crack.

>>10628675
Where did the model lose the second clip-on shoe ribbon?

>>10628675
this is a hot mess

>>10628702
Nvm, the ribbon has been safely edited back in. Thanks, Tulle.

>>10628675
I hope so. That would mean we still stand a chance of getting Twinkle Star Bag Gummi Ver. somewhere around 2023.

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>>10628075
I want cherry jewelry, but it’s generally not a good sign when there’s none in the lookbook

Anyone who has usagi no picnic op can help me about sizing? The measurements are waist 71 - 81 but i see no shirring in the pictures. How flexible is it really?

>>10628727
AP gave up

>>10628781
Anon... the OP waist measurement is 76 cm. The measurements you posted are for the JSK. Fabric like that doesn't stretch. If you're not within the measurements, don't buy it.

>>10628729
You and me both anon. I'm really hoping for some nice accessories!

>>10628782
Thank anon. Then paris wrote it wrong great.

>>10628788
Oh wow. I just looked at Paris and they 100% just pasted the JSK measurements. The OP definitely does not have shirring.

>>10628781
Look at it on the japan site. I believe those measurements are an error.
Japan site lists it as follows:
[Size]
・ Length: Approximately 89 cm (including hem frills 4 cm)
・ Bust: Approximately 92 cm
・ West switching position: Approximately 76
cm
・Shoulder width: Approximately 34 cm・ Length: BNP to approximately 32 cm
・ Sleeve length: Approximately 33 cm (lace 3 cm included) )
・ Cuffs: Approximately 28 cm

There's no shirring in it/not stretchy fabric.

So.. I actually bought an older OP from AP and it just got here today.

I think I had unrealistic expectations for them to be comfortable, since I bought some recent OPs from AP. I remember hearing they were uncomfortable back in the day, so I never bought them. Fuck. Well, I forgot. The arms are SO stiff on Vanilla-chan OP what the fuck.

>>10628800
Long sleeve OPs are bad news. Stay away from them. Even when I was underweight, they sucked.

I’m surprised there weren’t any toy doll box headbows from scalpers or is it too early? I understood they were supposed to come out end of may

>>10628812
I'm the anon that wanted one last thread, and I haven't seen a single one show up secondhand. They were limited to Sendai's reopening, so my best guess is that they made like 20 of them and sold out instantly. My shopping service couldn't get one either.
I'm still mad that they didn't just do a general release of them. Toy Doll Box never had a proper headbow.

>>10628815
She couldn't get anyone anything. SS are useless with the new reservation rules

>>10628821
Yeah there's that too.
I'd easily pay $100+ for the sax Toy Doll Box headbow. I'll probably never see it.

>>10628821
New rules did not apply to the shop reopening event though.

Alright guess I can just get the pink one then. I was contemplating getting the sax incase I’ll snag the matching bow but I guess I can forget about it

>>10628835
Please learn how to reply before posting on 4chan

>>10628847
I didn’t want to reply to any specific post you petty cunt.

The whipped cream Wish Me Mell MTO is supposed to be ready this month. I wonder if AP is waiting until after distribution is done for the next MTO.

>>10628800
Tell me you're new without saying you're new

>>10627062
By most you mean cgl. Cgl was all about ~master race superior classic Lolita~ back then. But they were in the minority.

>>10628949
>Tell me you can't read, without telling me you can't read.

>>10628980
No it fucking wasn't. The majority of you weren't even on cgl back in 2010. The threads were varied when they became a thing and there was always way more emphasis on certain unfavorables or tripfags.

It was fucking cosplay threads back then. Stop pretending like you knew the board 10 years ago.

>>10628998
ok granny let's get you to bed

>>10628997
Everyone knows AP's long sleeves look and feel like ass, newfag

>>10628800
What do you mean by stiff? I have that op and I've never had a problem.

Cherry Stamp!

>>10629088
Only three color ways

>>10629089
Pearl Shell purse

>>10629089
I don't even want this release, but store limited colorways need to burn.

The shell bag is so random. Why AP.

>>10629090
Yukata

>>10629090
The star buckle is literally the only thing interesting about this bag.

>>10629092
The rest of this weeks releases

>>10628620
will the mint colorway be store limited? that was the only one i was considering…

>>10629095
The mint is limited to Nagoya and Shibuya

>>10629096
i’m an idiot and only checked the online shop post. thanks anon!

>>10629089
I hate stripes desu, hurts my eyes

Mint is dreamy

I’m trying to hold out for Galaxy Cocktail but if Paris gets this one I’ll be sorely tempted

If mint isn't released for Paris or USA I will be sad, why do they have to make it store exclusive ;u;

>>10629089
I love this, but I really wish they had released it as a skirt as well

>>10629111
I like the mint but the red accents mixed with mint isn't doing it for me. Probably would go for the bxw stripes instead. It has strong etc vibes though, I wonder how popular this release will be?

>>10629088
The only thing I wanted this season and they released it whilst I have no brando money, existence is pain. I was expecting it next month lmao

>>10629111
I'm glad they made the sax/mint colourway I was talking about, but why would they make the best one a store exclusive

>>10629118
B&W is my favorite too. And hopefully well? I'm a fag for ETC kek

>>10628815
They may randomly pop up in another store the same way the Toy Fantasy apron skirt set did? We can live in hope.

>>10629119
I'm glad I'm not the only one who ended up with no money this month, it happens. Maybe we'll be able to get it later second hand or from the US release depending on when that is.

>>10629090
It came out of nowhere. I wonder if this means we’ll be getting some marine themed prints soon.

>>10629095
Mint is also AP SFs color, maybe they'll get a few of them too.

>>10629158
Scroll up my guy
>>10628675
Looks like it was supposed to be released alongside Chateau d’ecume. Given the timing I wonder if there were manufacturing issues due to Covid so they held it back for SS21 instead of releasing a shell bag in winter? lel

I’m always down for more marine prints but I don’t think they’re popular enough currently.

No mint for Paris. They just posted about the new release.

>>10629094
I need that blouse and brooch holy fuck

>>10629118
>I wonder how popular this release will be?
I honestly don't think it'll be that popular, but at least pink will still sell out. Red/ black are never very coveted by the mass, and those two colorways for this release in particular are an eyesore.

>>10629073
Can't raise my arms. I guess it brings to question which ones are floating around out there that are replicas.

>>10629007
The new ones don't, dumb ass.

>>10629324
I would be surprised if it doesn't sell out in Japan

>>10629007
nayrt but I've been in the fashion 15 years and didn't know that. I live on the surface of the sun so I've never bothered to get a long-sleeved OP. Maybe this is common knowledge among the lolitas in your Saskatchewan comm but I'd bet most people who buy an older OP wouldn't expect it.

>>10629324
>an eyesore
shit taste, black is cute af.

Alright, who was sucessful in getting what they wanted? Honestly this release was calm feeling for me. Waiting on second email to confirm I got the socks. Good luck everyone.

>>10629343
>"shit taste"
>every color of the JSK and OP is still fully in stock on AP Paris 20 minutes after the general release
I think maybe you're in the minority here.

>>10629356
Everything except the blouse is still in stock. I think you got your socks lol.

>>10629359
My bad, the brooch is also sold out. So unless someone here ordered the blouse out brooch, I don't think anyone will get a cancellation email.

>>10629356
I was waffling but got the black JSK and headband in the end.
I went for the blouse and socks first and my order is confirmed. Only thing I missed was the brooch. I bet if I went for it I would have missed the blouse though.

This was a pretty chill release but I tend to like unpopular items so.

>>10629359
Might be because some people didn't get the email? I am subscribed and get all Paris release emails but I didn't get this one?

>>10629088
REEEEE cotton or whatever, but I genuinely would have been more interested in this dress if it had been cotton and would have bought it. I don't hate polyester but this print would've been perfect for cotton.

>>10629368
Me neither, but I always go straight to the website at 9:30 anyway

>>10629371
That plus cotton would have been more comfortable in summer and the blouse is cotton too. I love the collar on the blouse but don't own any cherry pieces so I'm considering hijacking the design for a handmade blouse collar and using hearts or something that actually goes with my wardrobe. The little cutouts on each scallop are great.

>>10629368
Yeah I didn't get this one either, but I don't think that stops diehard people from checking/knowing when AP releases are.
Even the Glitter Ribbon jewelry sold out faster.

>>10629368
AP Paris heard us. I just got the email.

>>10629377
True. I finally did get my email just now, not sure why it was late. I didn't want anything from this release (as another anon said I would have if it was cotton, this and LBS were so cute and summery!) but if I had I'd probably have set an alarm anyway

>>10629368
that but also most people i know aren't really interested in this one

>>10629089
The belt looks like shit, why.

>>10629332
Sounds like it is just too small on you. As in, your shoulders are too wide.

>>10629343
Its because a lot of new lolitas are buying old stuff out of hype, and expecting the same sizing of ap now. Most people are already too fat for the fashion, and a lot of old ap has smaller shoulders and and arms, hence why anon couldn’t raise their arms in it

>>10629384
I feel like it should have been sax or white or something on the red version, the color makes sense on the other colorways.

>>10629332
That sounds like a sizing issue, not stiffness.

I really like Cherry Stamp in bxw in both the JSK and yukata just not at Paris prices...

>>10629374
Jane Marple has the best decorative collars but their blouses cost as much as an AP OP oof. I should just buy an embroidery machine and design some cute collars myself. Scallops with hearts sounds super cute anon!

>>10629332
Sell that poor dress to someone who won't bust its seams.

>>10629389
Not new, but did barrel into an old release release expecting it to feel like current ops. I think it's not necessarily new lolitas, but in my case older and has more money than when I started lolita originally. The shoulders being smaller makes sense, though. I've been on and off working them out too much at the gym, so fuck.

>>10629397
I'll collect the fucker, before I sell it to anyone you cunt. Just for that post, I'll never sell it. I'm not a poorlita.

>>10629436
no1curr about the vanilla chan op so have fun with your dress that doesn't fit, i guess

>>10629438
Obviously I did enough to buy it, if you used your brain for literally more than two seconds.

>>10629440
fatty mad :((((((

>>10629459
not the anon but you can be super skinny and not fit just due to having wider shoulders

>>10629465
Another fatty mad

>>10629469
eh there's a lot of factors at play as to why sleeves don't fit, it's not just "ur fat lol"

SF announced their releases for the week: Rabbit Picnic Party, Sophie Marine, and a bunch of the blouses and other assorted stuff.

>>10629111
I'm not a mint girl but the mint of Cherry Stamp is just to die for

>>10629471
Thanks for the info!

>>10629469
I'm literally underweight, just tall and wide shoulders lol

I'm surprised many people like the mint Cherry Stamp. It feels off to me. I guess I prefer more blueish shades of mint.

Did anyone else's points for AP Paris suddenly disappear? The only points I see are for the things I bought today, all my other points are suddenly gone.

>>10629559
I don't even know how the point system works. I only have points from the last release and I don't think I have any option to use them.

>>10629559
I also don't see any points in My Account despite buying a lot last month. I couldn't find a detailed explanation on how the points are supposed to work. Can anyone here clarify?

>>10629088
>Only 1 colorway of the JSK sold out, hours later
Okay AP just give us the MTOs.

>>10629559
Send them a message or mail them, they'll award you the points manually. They changed the system and points didn't go over well.

>>10628998
Ok whatever, I’m not going argue with you about not knowing cgl ten years ago. Shit, I’m honestly ashamed to admit that I’ve been here that long.

Can't wait to see how Cherry Stamp does in Japan

>>10629817
If it does bad in Japan like it did in Paris, I might actually try to get it later. It's a cute series really, it's just not one I would shell out for immediately for.

>>10630002
Definitely try to hold out anon; I think very few poly nu-AP dresses are worth buying before they go on sale, even those with cute prints. I'm a biased cottonfag though.

>>10630002
Same here!

The Laforet website has updated with some of the shop specials for Laforet the Weekend (including BABY/AATP and Meta) but nothing for AP yet, either on Laforet or AP

Good luck to anyone going for anything in the SF drop

>>10630105
Came here to see how the drop went. I'm assuming the site didn't break? Didn't seem like a bloodbath release.

It’s because cherries are fucking ugly

>>10630084
I just want them to release one of the two missing MTOs. It seems like a good opportunity to promote it (not that it needs any promotion).

>>10630084
link please?

>>10630182
Maybe just look it up? It's public info online. Google is likely faster than waiting for an anon to reply.

>>10629817
>>10630002
I'm returning from the front lines, it was an utter massacre. Site shit itself and every piece was gone within three minutes. I didn't want to shell out for the black jsk in euro so I guess my last chance is with the garbage dump that is APUSA's site.

>>10630139
The US site gas held up better recently. But there's just 1 pink OP and 2 lac OPs left.
By the way what are we calling this print? Ive seen it Usagi Picnic Party, Usagi no Picnic Party, and Bunny Picnic Party.
I personally like the last one

>>10630323

>>10630329
Meanwhile on AP Paris

>>10630329
AP Paris calls it Usagi no Picnic, so the jury might still be out on this one. Personally, I prefer Bunny('s) Picnic Party too though.

>>10630331
Considering we don't call CTP "neko no osakai", I'm sticking with Bunny's Picnic Party

>>10630330
Gonna go to AP Paris and ask for usagi no picnic desu nya!

>>10630342
"Arigatou shop shoujo-chan!"
I do think AP Paris is a bit weird not translating it.

>>10630308
I wonder if Japanese lolitas know they can just mosey over to the Paris site and order any color and cut right now (except the black JSK).
The exchange rate sucks, but they're all just sitting there.

>>10630366
They know.

>>10630334
>osakai
Anon please.

>>10630308
You're in luck, their site has been better during releases and very few people want cherry stamp in the us.

>>10630372
Sounds good, I'll hope for the best.

>>10630371
Anon is just going off this from lolibrary...

>>10630533
nta but お茶会 is ochakai and it means tea ceremony not tea party. whoever is putting these names into lolibrary is a dumb weeb using google translate. tea party would be ティーパーティー (katakana) it's like how teacup (ティーカップ) is incorrectly translated to 茶碗 (chawan) sometimes.

>>10630539
Yeah it's not the anons fault that they were lead astray. I think their point still stands. Cat's Tea Party not Neko no Tiparti .

>>10630566
of course. japanese comm doesn't even use print names much of the time and when they do it's english. anything written on a brand site in english is usually accompanied by katakana barring a few of AP's recent wa releases but they have japanese names.

These whipped cream beads are extremely cute.

>>10630686

>>10630687

>>10630688
These are so cute

>>10630686
Ok, so I searched their whole website and checked the store's Twitter accounts. Where did you find this if I might ask? Sorry for the spoonfeeding, but I'm stuck here.

>>10630707
You may find it in the banner slider on top of AP official website.

>>10630708
Oh, I see! Thanks a lot! My browser keeps glitching with the banner slider, so I usually ignore them cause they often post the same information elsewhere.

>>10630539
this is embarrassing for you, because お茶会 can (and does, all the time particularly in lolita - see brand tea party events called shit like メイデンのお茶会, nobody is getting into their kimono expecting to turn up to an AP “tea ceremony”) mean tea party. Japanese Wikipedia even explains the two different meanings.

>>10630708
Thank you anon. I would have never seen this because it comes after the banner for Cherry Stamp.

>>10630686
I like this and hate this at the same time. Looks like I'm going to try to buy it anyways.

>>10629088
apron is trash, print on the lower part of the skirt is trash, rest is pretty good

>>10630739
The apron isn't even part of the dress, retard

>>10630740
still trash, downie

>>10630733
This. Plus it’s very obvious that the cats on the print aren’t drinking matcha with some wagashi.

>>10630736
It may end up being a Japan on release due to licensing issues.

>>10630770
*only

>>10630770
Ayrt - oh yeah, definitely. I put in a request with an SS even though there's no release details yet. The Whip Cream Princess MTO was licensed for Japan only, so I was already thinking this would be the same story.

>>10630739
oh look the scrote that hates prints and has to tell everyone is back. no one asked, and no one cares. stay gone

>>10630539
Ochakai is often used to mean to tea party. I’m in a fan club for a takarazuka actress, and it’s common across the board for them to refer to their events as ochakai/tea parties interchangeably. Even outside of the context of takarazuka, I’ve heard it used that way.

>>10630539
You're an idiot. Ochakai is the term brands and lolitas use for tea parties. It's a newer term, get with the times granmaw.

>>10630539
Pretty sure when I reserved the rerelease of cats tea party here they used “お茶会”…

>>10627709
Scrolled back to find this because I finally got mine and same

GIVE US THE GODDAMN MTOS AP

>>10630901
>It's a newer term
no.

>>10631104
Ochakai being used for lolitas meeting up for tea has only been used for the last 7 or so years. I don't understand why your panties are in such a twist over it just take your L nonnie.

>>10631167
Nayrt, I just wanted to add that ochakai has been used by normies to refer to a western-style tea party for longer than just 7 years. E.g. Mad Tea Party from “Alice in Wonderland” is called 気違いのお茶会 in Japanese.

They finally updated the private party items and I’m a bit sad knowing I probably won’t be able to get the accessories.

Petit Bouquet MTO!

>http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/petit_bouquet/index.htm

The more I see this jsk the more I like it. Might go 4 it

>>10632026
Man I don't even care that much myself but I'm so happy for that one anon who missed the red JSK

The new releases for the la foret event have been announced, 2 new fancy dresses. This is the Little Swan Lake dress set, which also comes with a headbow, for 86,900 yen

>>10632030
Polaris Waltz Cygnus dress set for the low low price of￥385,000, you have the buy the headdress separately

>>10632032
The Strawberry Doll jsk is getting released again, only in white, and this new apron is coming out to match

>>10632033
I wonder if it's the same apron from the lookbook, maybe they'll release that one soon

Fantasy Lyrical Bunny is getting an MTO too from the looks of it

>>10632033
Some more bunny ear items, everything for la foret only comes in one colour btw

>>10632034
Why are ap announcing so much today jesus

>>10632037
AP really caught me off guard, they're 2 days early. Sad I will never get the La Foret items.

>>10632034
The Fukuoka store is getting a re-release of Dream Sky for their anniversary fair, which is also what these bunnies are for

>>10632039
It's for the Petit Bouquet MTO along with The Weekend and Fukuoka items. They might still have a regular release at all their stores over the weekend.

>>10632033
Nobody bought that series when it first came out so I have no doubt it's leftovers.

>>10632026
Ah crap i really wanted the pink or blue! It will come to Paris aswell right?

>>10632041
I don't think there are any SS for Fukuoka, right? I'd really like to grab the OP.

This week's release is florals and polka dots. The floral seems to come in white, pink, and black.

Is it possible I can get help identifying a dress? I know it sounds vague af but my memory is shit when it comes to remembering names.

-Angelic Pretty
-One Piece
-Chiffon Sleeves, long but the wrists are elastic and can be pulled back
-Lace Skirt
-No print
-No Shirring
-Lace cross on the chest
-I wanted it in black but I think I saw a cream/off-white colour
-Has the name of a person

>>10632027
oh my god that’s me, i just woke up and i’m in tears lmao. i passed up on a few listings that were like $800 too. today is a great day!!!

>>10632060
I'm thinking of Katrina OP?

>>10632062
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH THIS IS IT! THANKS!

>>10632059
Did you forget your trip, prophet-chan?

>>10632059
if you're AP, you dropped your trip

>>10632044
>Nobody bought that series when it first came out so I have no doubt it's leftovers
The special set was very popular when it got released and was selling for way above retail. They even made an MTO for it later on so I wouldn't compare it to the normal strawberry doll release desu, I feel like japanese and chinese girls really love it.

>>10632048
None I’ve ever heard of. It’s so far from Osaka and Tokyo, it costs a lot of money on the shinkansen to get there so it wouldn’t be feasible for a SS to travel. Maybe 20000-33000¥

>>10632026
So they can do this MTO but not the ones that they announced over half a year ago that people are wanting?

>>10632030
Imagine being so new that you think this dress is a new release

>>10632072
Probably a lot easier to ask a manufacturer to make xyz more of a recent order vs. a dress from over 10 years ago. Petit Bouquet hype might not last, gotta strike while the iron’s hot

>>10632048
There's like 5 that I know of.

>>10632128
Maybe we really need a separate thread for Japanese shopping services.

>>10632134
Nobody wants to give away their sources so easily/overwhelm their main ss. Especially with many people quitting or slowing down lately.

>>10632134
The few I know of are fairly popular. Check the archives.

>>10632128
>>10632149
You're the same anon from last year who also said "there's 5" but never dropped who. Nothing else is in the archive

Happy to see Bunny Tag jewelry again.

>>10632149
Ayrt. I am not looking for a SS, I was solely suggesting we could separate this kind of discussions cause they come up every time there's a shop limited release.

>>10632154
There's a few mentioned in this thread that I know of.
https://desuarchive.org/cgl/thread/9313226/

>>10632034
will these come to Paris I wonder?

>>10632173
Would be nice, especially since Paris shop has its anniversary next month.

>>10632026
Ah crap, I wasn't really interested in this series but now that its readily available the red jsk and bonnet are pretty cute...

>>10632026
>>10632072
It was all fun and games about Candy Fairy and Nakayoshi Bunny, but I'm actually angry now that AP decided this series was somehow more urgent.

>>10632034
The old Lyrical bunny is officially dead. I hate this new version. It's lifeless. I wish AP would rerelease the older style of rucksacks. The quality on these is going to be terrible. The fur already looks bad again. I give up on AP plush, yet again.

>>10632037
>>10632039
Aaand yet again all the good items are limited. The colorful wristcuffs, ears, and brooch are all great, but of course we won't even have a chance, SS or not.

>>10632072
a little over half a year isn't really a long time, especially during COVID.

why are y'all in a tizzy about it? i get being excited, but what--are you going to stop wearing lolita, or not have the money for it, in a few months? a year? it's going to happen. it doesn't really matter when. we can't expect them to drop everything else for it. petit bouquet was extremely popular, so it's a good move for them.

>>10632249
>it's going to happen. it doesn't really matter when
Nayrt but absolutely nothing is guaranteed until AP actually drops the MTOs. For all we know, AP could skip them if they became disinterested. It already sounded like AP was wishy-washy on them because Angelic Prophet mentioned the possible lack of colors/cuts. It doesn't bode well.

>petit bouquet was extremely popular
So are Candy Fairy and Nakayoshi Bunny, which go for higher secondhand than Petit Bouquet has.

It's fine if AP wants to do an MTO, but it just seems like a slap in the face for it not to be one of the ones revealed and hyped half a year ago.

>>10632258
>For all we know, AP could skip them if they became disinterested.
just curious, has AP ever announced something and then said "nah sorry we're not gonna do it"?

>>10632249
Because I’ve been searching for one of them for eight fucking years. They announced it and now they’re dragging it out and it feels like torture

>>10632260
bts collab

>>10632260
Yes

>>10632268
Thank fuck.

>>10632268
I still want to know what that one would have looked like. Must also suck to have finished designing something and then your manager says nah love we don't need it anymore

>>10632285
It was supposed to be a set of 7 gingham ops, I think it was a 4 piece set? I mourn for its loss everyday, what I would do for some brando shooky otks

I regret not asking why it was cancelled, the only reason we know it was was because I emailed them about it, they just decided to never publicly say anything about it

>>10632318
I’m glad it got canceled because kpopfags are insufferable and have terrible taste and pandering to that crowd could only hurt AP’s image

>>10632323
I think they're insufferable because the most vocal Western ones are underage. At least the female fans of girl groups.

>>10632318
With yellow being color of the year for sweets in 2021 I bet people would be all over any Chimmy stuff

>>10632333
BTS fans are also particularly insufferable, this is getting OT though. I’m glad they cancelled the collab but it sucks to think that means announcements are worthless until the actual release/reservation.

>>10632070
It was selling for above retail secondhand but AP Tokyo had several sitting on the rack for months. It was a store exclusive for a past LaForet Private Party if I'm remembering correctly but it didn't sell the greatest.

>>10632368
I don’t remember AP cancelling something they had already made samples of. BTS collab was different, there were no sample photos, not even design drafts or fabric samples. I bet they just couldn’t make it in time for the event.

>>10632376
They did an MTO because Japanese lolitas were complaining they couldn’t get the special set because they all went to Chinese lolitas. My SS also couldn’t get it for me, so I find this hard to believe

>>10632378
Was your SS coming from out of town? I don't mean to be rude but your SS might be full of shit because the white colorway was hanging around the Tokyo shop for a long time.

>>10632428
Nayrt, but the white colorway is not the special set anon. I also had a hard time getting it.

>>10629384
Because it looks cheap, like all AP nowadays.

>>10632510
don't respond to larper posts.

>>10632378
Nyart, but I don’t blame you for finding this hard to believe. Things have been harder to get because Chinese lolitas & scalpers keep getting them and everything sells out right under us western & Japanese lolitas. Happened with Color Scheme Gingham, Fantastic Balloon, and I think Dream Sky’s sailor cutsew OP as well.

>>10632318
>the only reason we know it was was because I emailed them
Honestly, should someone email AP about Candy Fairy and Nakayoshi Bunny at this point? Would Paris be the best to email? I'm getting scared they're actually cancelled and it's just that no one knows.

>>10632873
Paris won’t know, you’ll need to email Japan. I’d do it, but t b h I don’t want to be the potential bearer of bad news.

I’d message them but I’m not interested in the MTOs. If they decide against making them shouldn’t they refund you already??

>>10632708
they were saying that AP Tokyo having special sets of Strawberry Doll sitting on the rack for months was hard to believe, anon.

As someone that just went in for the general release, not even the special set - it was a bloodbath too, with Chinese scalpers buying up a majority of stock. AP did an MTO for both the regular and special set because of the demand of Japanese lolitas; extra MTO stock is probably what you're talking about staying in stock at AP Tokyo for awhile.

>>10632904
They haven’t taken money yet for CF or NB which are being discussed here so how would refunds work??

>>10632938
It's also weird anon said "AP Tokyo". It's not Paris or San Francisco, there's more than one AP store in Tokyo.

>>10632953
Moral damages.

>>10632956
kek

>>10632899
Ayrt and I would do it, but my Japanese isn't good enough to ask this kind of question. AP Japan has never replied to my emails either.

Angelic Prophet, can you use your powers to ask if the MTOs are cancelled or not?

The polkadot OP from the lookbook is made out of fabric that has a very interesting weave. Unfortunately, I don't know the proper term for it. It's textured, not smooth.
>>10632033
This apron will be available in different colours.
>>10632973
Theoretically I could, but if I leak their answer here, my identity would become too obvious to AP. They probably wouldn't care, but I don't want to risk it.

>>10632034
Can some anon help me and tell me if these are these going to be a MTO? I got my covid shot 2 days ago and have the worst headpains so it's hard to read it all but I have been dreaming of buying one of these for so long.

>>10632979
sorry an *online MTO jfc

Not sure if I should ask a SS or wait for AP USA

>>10632979
They will be up for reservation in the online shop starting this Saturday. Congrats on getting the jab!

>>10632978
It reminds me slightly of the fabric used in Un Birthday, so butcher (ブッチャー) perhaps?

>>10632983
Thanks anon, I really appreciate it. Do you know if that is AP USA too or just JPN?

And thank you, super excited to get it (second dose)!

>>10632978
will the apron have a sax colorway? I gotta know

>>10632978
No, you could just type out an email with the correct phrasing and leaving out any identifying information, post it here, and then someone ITT could email AP

>>10632978
>>10632999
If someone typed out an email with the correct/polite phrasing and posted it here, I'm willing to email AP Japan and post the response here.

>>10632997
I think a sax colorway would suit the design really well, but other than the navy/red that AP already announced I'm starting to think that isn't the direction they want to take right now...we didn't even get a sax for the organdy aprons.

>>10633002
Same. Please can someone do this

>>10633007
Fucking AP making shit color choices they should hire me. I wouldn't stand for some of this bullshit they're trying to pull

>>10633007
There was no sax Glitter Ribbon/Tokimeki jewelry either. Time to die now that AP hates my most favorite colorway.

>>10633018
I feel you anon, I was also hoping for a sax colorway ;_; fingers crossed the sneakers will come in a sax that'll match my wardrobe at least

>>10632954
AP Tokyo is the Harajuku store you dumbass. It's always been called that. Check AP's website before you cry shenanigans.

>>10633002
Emailing AP only gets you a generic copy and paste response. I sent a few emails in simple Japanese asking about rereleases for popular prints that sold out and when certain dresses would be sold. It's always one of two vague replies.

>>10632377
they also could've had issues with licensing, the fact that they didnt have designs uploaded tells me that

>>10633033
Well no shit if you ask stuff like that you’ll get dismissed. You sound autistic

>>10633031
It's not called that anymore.

>>10633232
Nayrt but “ten” is just a Japanese suffix. All the store social media accounts use it

>>10633232
Tokyo store

>>10633247
I know. How is this relevant?

>>10633232
God you're fucking stupid and proved my point. It says Tokyo shop right in their twitter handle.

>>10633232
And their email and blog also has Tokyo in it. What a nonce.

>>10633673
>>10633674
I see you chose to ignore that everything else says Harajuku shop. They used to list it as Tokyoten on the website, but changed it to Harajukuten relatively recently (last year, I think). Before Tokyoten, they often listed it as honten (the main shop). Now that they have three shops in Tokyo, it's a bit weird to keep calling one of them Tokyoten. Not to mention that people don't normally call it that way and would usually say Harajuku shop or just Laforet.

>>10633848
I hate the Harajuku store but google maps always takes me to that one instead of Shibuya and I never have time to go to the other store before it closes

Is the Shibuya store any good or should I focus on Shinjuku in the future?

>>10634204
I like the interior of the Shibuya store a bit less compared to Laforet and Marui Annex, but it's a personal preference. Is there something specific you dislike about the Harajuku one?

Is dolly heart a weird shiny material in person or am i just looking at a badly taken picture?

I am thinking to get it for summer casual wear