/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10636109
it's all cringe attention whoring

>>10636109
It’s a fucking plague, it’s the reason why we’re stuck in summertime hell, and I wish to go the community didn’t deter these ugly e-girl fucks out of replicas.
However I’m not above saying that I do like a couple of them when I see them on my feed.

I support art theft for tik tok itas only.

There is some good content made for lolitas by lolitas but the zoomers who know nothing about jfashion are ruining it. idiots talking about the history of jfashion, accusing everyone with eyeliner of "asianfishing", saying lolita fashion is cultural appropriation...

i can only hope that the zoomers will mellow out and move onto another platform eventually and maybe that will clear up the content. theres always been newbie know it all itas but they never had a serious platform before, they just wasted away in obscurity on facebook or livejournal.

>>10636115
God, I hate zoomers. They really do ruin everything.

>>10636109
Lolita tiktok is imo the absolute worst of the online lolita community because it's still quite small, making it a "safe" gathering spot for lolitas at heart and itas in denial with zero intentions to wear the fashion they claim to wear and love oh so much properly.
Showing off yet another horrendous "cord uwu" is one thing, but some of them even try to teach others about lolita without educating themselves first, like who the hell cares about those evil, restricting rules when you could just call anyone who DARES to (politely) criticize your ill-fitting amazon plastic bag onepiece an elitist, non-inclusive, classist meanie.

>>10636139
samefag's edit
it's not as bad as reddit though, almost forgot that hellsite exists too

>>10636139
>making it a "safe" gathering spot for lolitas at heart and itas in denial with zero intentions to wear the fashion they claim to wear and love oh so much properly.

so just like cgl?

in all seriousness, tiktok is a horrible app for community and communication because the comment word count is so small. you cant give solid critique or have a discussion when limited to 140 characters or less

>>10636109
The AP Paris account is cute lol

That’s about it

>>10636109
Nice to see the dresses and outfits in motion if nothing else

>>10636122
It's because they lack serious experience about the world, meanwhile influencing it the most, socially now. All because there's a bunch of 30 year old men lusting after teenage cosplay kids. We gave the reigns to the wrong people.

Cosplay is a normie thing for zoomers, anyways.

>>10636147
I'm convinced tiktok is a Chinese psyop against Americans and nothing can convince me otherwise. Just the amount of toxicity that is spread has to be intentional

>>10636204
Considering the majority of the riot movements were on Tiktok, I'd believe it. Fucking zoomers pretending to know the world is dumpster fire.

During the riots, Tiktok was full of teenagers looting and filming themselves for clout during it.

>>10636109
that girl who's bi and says she's a lesbian is one of the dumbest bitch i hate that tiktok of hers so much

>>10636206
That's how all bi girls in Seattle area are like. I was once friends with a lesbian who dated men all the time.

Seattle is fucking weird.

>>10636206

Wait who

>>10636109
I seriously dislike lolita tiktok. It's either full of newbie lolitas who don't know what they're doing and saying or veteran lolitas being as cringe as possible. Like >>10636193 said, only AP Paris' account is good.

I love lolitatok. It makes me think I'm not ita

*cough* *cough* post tik tok lolithots *cough*

There's a lot of stuff tagged as lolita which is just egirls wearing cheap aliexpress dresses. Even the people on there actually wearing lolita are cringe and not worth watching. AP Paris account is the only decent one.

>>10636246
Agreed. Saw some newbies/not even in the fashion gen z’s fighting in few comments how amazon is a fine place to buy lolita and gatekeeping is bullying lol.

>>10636286
>Is it worth contributing to?
Only if you got the ovaries to call out itas and gatekeep.

>>10636109
I'm not a lolita myself, but I tend to get a few stray lolitas on my feed. I've mostly seen women use the songs and transitions to put on their coords, show off new buys, or out-on-the-town aesthetic videos of like teaparties and shit. Sometimes I'll get PSA's about lolita culture, misconceptions, etc. I quite enjoy the little peek into the life of a lolita as an outsider myself. I think the dresses are pretty and I love how stylish some women are with their makeup and accessories, but otherwise I have no clue how good the content is.

>Is it worth contributing to?
If you're asking whether it's worth creating videos in addition to posting pics of your coord, I think that's a resounding yes. There's a lot of benefits to having sound, movement, and etc. to show off your outfits. If you're asking about whether to post to tiktok specifically, well that's up to personal preference. You could use instagram reels if you'd prefer to stick to one platform. Content gets recycled both ways, so I doubt there's much of a difference. From my outsider's observation, the lolita community on tiktok does seem smaller than instagram.

>>10636309
>I'm not a lolita myself
You should have stopped there. Your opinion is invalid.

>>10636109
I don't understand why everyone on TikTok acts so over the top in their facial expressions and gestures. It makes it impossible to watch without cringing, unless there are no humans in it like in cottagecore ones. Lolita ones are especially bad.

Any bad take you can imagine, it's been said on Tik Tok. I'm frequently on the cosplay and lolita side of tiktok and here's just some of the takes I can remember;
>lolita is based off the book
>lolitas should be stoned (said by some old dried up hag)
>lolita is dressing like children
>lolita is pedobaiting
>men being attracted to lolita is a red flag because it's pedophilic, apparently
>lolita can only be worn by japanese people
>you can't cosplay characters that are problematic
>you also can't cosplay characters that are VICTIMS of abuse (ex: dolores from lolita)
>white people shouldn't cosplay poc characters that have racism as part of their background
>white people shouldn't cosplay poc characters period
>white people can't wear wigs that are curly like a black persons
>gyarus are trying to look like white people
>gyaru is also trying to look like black people

>>10636481
zoomers all have autism and their ideas of socialization come from watching cartoons on youtube, it's a whole generation of naruto running retards

>>10636481
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. I can't stomach most tik toks because the way the move and the facial expressions make my skin crawl

>>10636109
youtube shorts is better for the same type of content, no cringe teens on there

>>10636111
Isn't that all social media, 4chan included?

>>10636540
>>10636481
If you can learn to laugh at the cringe shit, it's a lot of content to laugh at at least. Cringe compilations from tiktok is 100% the best shit to laugh at on the internet, nowadays. They are so fucking retarded and don't understand this is going to follow them for life.

>>10636557
>4chan
no. 4chan is and never has been the place for attention whoring, outside of *chan camwhores back in the day. Unless you're willing to be nude, no one is going to care on here.

>>10636612
Not all attention whoring is "look at my body", sometimes it's "look how fucking edgy I can be" to get a reaction. Trolls are attention whores too. They love an audience.

>>10636615
>sometimes it's "look how fucking edgy I can be" to get a reaction. Trolls are attention whores too.

You're fucking retarded. Learn to fit in or get the fuck out, fucking newfag.

>>10636616
You're trying too hard kek

>>10636612
> 4chan is and never has been the place for attention whoring

hahaha oh my god you’re actually serious?

>>10636616
I mean, they're not wrong.

Lolita tiktok is a plague. E-thot ita tiktokers are terminal cancer.

>>10636612
you serious? there are even attention whores on /jp/

Are there any halfway decent lolita tiktokers? If so who do you recommend?

>>10636934
cupcake_hime

This girl went on a rampage about how mean we are lmfao

>>10637078

Lol

>>10636481
>over the top
it's mostly teenagers trying to make themselves feel like they matter in a world that's growing ever more extreme, so they try to out do it, sadly contributing to the problem. Also teenagers love DangonRonpa and if you tell me any less than half of those tiktok lolitas dont love dangonRonpa and the OTT everything, then you're lying

>>10637091
that's the joke anon

>>10637089
tell me you visit /cgl/ without telling me that you visit /cgl/

if we are such haters then why is she here too.

>>10636223
if you think you're ita, you probably are

>>10637089
What is this girls username?? I can’t find her account

>>10636109
what I really hate is when some lolita her tiktok gets super popular (outside the community) and you get normies and ekids asking where they can buy dresses like that etc
and I'm just afraid that the way that it's so easy to have a "viral" (as in outside our community) video that it will blur the lines and eventually lolita is gonna be just as popular as I dont know cottage core

>>10637125
I wouldn't mind lolita going viral as long as it's someone who wears it properly. Would be nice to have the word associated more with jfashion than with the other garbage.

>>10637123
>>10637111
she was posted to the ita thread recently iirc

>>10637175
That, but imagine Lor-ita going viral amongst the young kids. It’d spawn even worse wave of itas.

>>10637125
you know this has been a fear for the past 10+ years? every time someone famous like katy perry or lady gaga wear lolita, to all of the living doll shit with venus angelic, hot topic selling "lolita" dresses, etc there's always someone going "lolita is going to get too popular now" but it never happens and won't happen this time either so don't worry about it

>>10637395
I agree.

At the very most, some kids who want to try it out will buy their cheap Amazon replicas and wear it for a few months before moving on to the next thing.

>>10637395
Yeah, and once they see how much it costs they usually fuck off. A lot of them are also too stupid and afraid to use proxies so that helps.

>>10637395
>but it never happens and won't happen this time either so don't worry about it
Then explain why the second hand market has been so dry and quick in the past 1-3 years.

>>10637563
Only with certain pieces, though, and the obvious reason is because the millenials who were responsible for the initial popularity boom in the late 2000's now have enough money to buy all the shit that was super popular back in the day and is back in now.

>>10637578
Basically. We're bored and going back to what we enjoyed being locked inside.

>>10637335
Lor shouldn't be counted as part of the lolita community. She's more interested in clowns and Tamagotchis so those communities can have her.

>>10637563
secondhand market's been plentiful for me dunno what you're talking about
as for the quickness of items going, well everyone's home and bored and many are sitting on a bunch of money, but before then it isn't so much as an influx of newbies invading secondhand markets but more people telling even more people about how to use shopping services making exclusive sites feel not-so-exclusive. happened to mbok, is happening to mercari/frill, will happen to xianyu if it isn't already, and other sites I'm not going to mention so people on this board don't shit them up, too.

>>10637593
I agree completely. It seems as if she’s not even that interest in lolita anymore anyways.

>>10637578
Most of those millennials from back then aren't even lolita anymore, that doesn't add up.

>>10637624
Anons yahoo japan is basically dead, new items of almost every brand used to be added daily. Mercari and fril are starting to go the same ways and fewer items get uploaded daily. CC, TokyoAlice and Violetblue barely have lolita items anymore and if they do, they literally go in a second with nothing else left. And that not only since corona, it steadily got worse for the past 2 years and several others already noticed. Like that's not even objective anymore. And people with experience already knew how to use SSes and what second hand websites to use, so it's got to be newer ones.

>>10637395
Yes but social media has changed a lot over these past 10 years. I don't think you can compare these things anymore

Not to mention how easy it has gotten to buy from different countries nowadays

>>10636109
I prefer it to IG it feels less curated

>>10637091
People who use hime need shooting

>>10637735
>Most of those millennials from back then aren't even lolita anymore, that doesn't add up.

Tell me, how do you even know what people are doing?

>>10637828
nta but that's exactly my thought too

I even think people who started wearing the fashion in the early/mid 2000s are more "loyal"/more likely to wear lolita to this day than a gen-z teenager who ends up leaving the fashion after two years because it was just a phase after all, trends are shifting too quickly these days

Clowns for the lowest common denominator.

>>10637735
>Most of those millennials from back then aren't even lolita anymore, that doesn't add up.
Are you new or just incredibly out of touch with the community? In most comms, the majority of members are millenials and we just did a "how old are you?" thread a couple months ago where the majority of us were millenials. All of the lolitas with any semblance of a following on YouTube are millenials and most on IG are too.

>>10637831
>I even think people who started wearing the fashion in the early/mid 2000s are more "loyal"/more likely to wear lolita to this day than a gen-z teenager who ends up leaving the fashion after two years because it was just a phase after all

This. Also, internet "fame" wasn't really a thing when we got into it and the community was even more rabid at that point. So, you needed to be truly dedicated to the fashion to stick with it, instead of subconciously being motivated by internet attention.

>>10637735
Even if that were rge case that most of us aren't aroubd anymore, you have to remember that the dresses impacted by this are extremely old and hard to find in perfect condition, so there's still gonna be stiff competition among that demographic. There isn't a single millenial OTT sweet in my comm who doesn't have Milky Planet on their dream dress list and most of us want it in multiple colorways. Hell, I myself have 2 of them. And forget about shit like Twinkle Mermaid that is infinitely harder to find.

>>10637843
where do you guys think the cut off is?
I'm a 99 baby but I literally get called a millennial by every single teenager but millennials are always like "you lived in the 90s for only one year you're not one of us"

>>10637895
You're definitelly a zoomer. General consensus is the cut off is somewhere in the mid-90's. Personally, I consider anyone too young to remember the 90's a zoomer.

>>10637843
No, in contrary, I've been wearing it since 2008 and make the assumption based on how many people from back then still wear lolita. How is that an argument for my point either way? Yes, millenials got older. Still, the majority of the millennials from the heydays don't wear lolita anymore and the majority are newer (started wearing 2015 onwards). Hell, you can even notice it from how cgl's userbase changed.

>>10637828
Social media

>>10637831
>I even think people who started wearing the fashion in the early/mid 2000s are more "loyal"/more likely to wear lolita to this day than a gen-z teenager who ends up leaving the fashion after two years
That's because your representative of those people who started wearing the fashion in the early/mid 2000s are the ones who stayed and are thr most loyal.

>>10637848
>internet "fame" wasn't really a thing
Yes it fucking was, just not as absolutely tuned to the nines like now.

>>10637848
Uhhmm meow tan would like a word with you.

>>10638287
Nta but who is meow tan?

>>10638407
really popular sweet lolita who started when she was like 14 and had a lot of brand which was rare at that time esp for someone young. they left lolita for a decent amount of time and came back a couple of years ago

>>10637895
if you don't remember 9/11, you're not a millennial

>>10637848
internet fame was a thing, it was just insular and confined within the community. nowadays people like lovelylor, their viewership is mostly nonlolitas and newbie lolitas. but there were popular lolitas within the livejournal community.

the portland community, mintymix, shelbycloud, their daily lolita posts regularly would get 100+ comments

>>10638287
meow_tan wasnt famous she was infamous. her posts didn't get much traction on daily_lolita or egl.

>>10638480
Don't forget the Bay lolitas imo. They were so hugely predominate in the community.

And agreed. meow_tan only became infamous as an ita that had a bunch of brand. She just keeps self posting all over the place, man. Stop making it so obvious you're posting about yourself, meow_tan

>>10638497
she wasnt an ita once she got brand. her transformation timeline used to be posted here often when we had threads on that subject. it's outdated now.

>>10638480
>>10638497
she was the regular kind of internet famous as well; I must have seen that one coord of her with the split hair and balloons a hundred times now

she grew up, runs a store, has a reddit bf, seems like she kinda keeps to herself other than IG posting

>>10638499
She was an ita with brand for years lmao

>>10638514
Are you joking? She uses tiktok and posts to cof on the regular. She still shills herself as hard as ever.

>>10638515
Is just being involved in the community like everybody else what counts as being a shill now?

>person wears the fashion regularly
>omg what a shill

>>10638543
She shills her crappy store any chance she gets anon. It's the textbook definition of the word shill.

>>10638554
Additionally she’s an annoying sjw and randomly starts shit with people on Twitter

>>10638514
She uses Twitter too. You can also find her gassing up every POC lolita.

>>10638480
>Jen wants to be OTT Sweet Lolita, but her mom doesn't let her

>>10638601
I’m not sure why this is a bad thing

>>10638606
It's fake and she wants them woke points badly

>>10637895
It's ok anon, if you're not retarded like zoomers you can be a millennial at heart.

The Tiktok comm is meh. Some folks I follow are from my comm, so to me I find their stuff to be cute or funny. It's the ones that just can't shut up about how being an ita is ok because poo poo on those who say you have to follow the mean ol' rules. It's just cloth you guuuyzzz.

That just aggravates me so much. Other wise it's fun. I like peoples TT 30 seconds unhauling videos much more than YouTubes 45 minute ones.

It's also tempting to make a video myself. I have so many coords and really have nobody to show them to. My comm rarely meets and I'm (not to blow my own horn) one of the better dressed so it would be nice to be appreciated/interact with someone other than who is wearing a hot topic maids dress and says "I wish I could look like you! I just have the money XP" while I stand there and patronize them to their faces "Oh don't be silly! You look great!"

At this point even the FB groups are annoying me with all the endless asspatting. At least on TT I can just watch the ones that know what the fuck they're doing and ignore/block everyone else.

>>10638675
The irony is millenials also have some retarded shit qualities. I'm also on the cusp depending on which source and would rather be considered a zoomer. I'm an adult with a job so while I hate being associated with kids, it's kinda just like millenials where people think we're all far younger than we really are still.

>>10638515
>She uses tiktok and posts to cof on the regular.
so like almost every other lolita

>>10638601
>She uses Twitter too. You can also find her gassing up every POC lolita.
again - so almost like every other lolita

>>10637895
The cut-off year will always be arbitrary, as are all generational labels.
>>10638058
I was born in 1996 and I'm not sure if my earliest memories were in 1999 or 2000.
>>10638443
I didn't watch the news when I was 5, but I have memories of events in my life from 2001.

>>10637895
The cut-off year will always be arbitrary, as are all generational labels.
>>10638058
I was born in 1996 and I'm not sure if my earliest memories that I can still remember were in 1999 or 2000. The very label of millenial is arbitrary in itself, as is picking memories of the 1990's as the defining feature of millenials. Why is millenial even a generational label? Just because 2000 is a milestone number? But that has no influence on people's lives, their culture or their views.

There's no good sociological reason why generational labels should be formed around the year 2000 rather than the years 1974 and 1959, as being born or growing up in the 20 or so years either side of the years 1974 and 1959 has as much influence on a person as being born or growing up in the 20 or so years either side of the year 2000. My point is that the year 2000 is not more special than any of years of 20th century or any of the other years of the 21st century from an anthropological or sociological point of view, so the generational label of millenial is arbitrary. I don't think that a generational label around the years 1899-1900 and 1799-1800, or 999-1000, a generational label around the years 2099-2100 will be as equally as arbitrary as the label millenial.
>>10638443
I didn't watch the news when I was 5, but I have memories of events in my life from 2001.

>>10637895
The cut-off year will always be arbitrary, as are all generational labels. People born either side near a cut-off year(for example two people born within a year of each other, and either side of a cut-off year), and so will be assigned different generational label, will on average tend to have more in common with each other than with people within there generational labels with whom they share years large age gaps, so what's the point of the generational label in the first place?
>>10638058
I was born in 1996 and I'm not sure if my earliest memories that I can still remember were in 1999 or 2000. The very label of millenial is arbitrary in itself, as is picking memories of the 1990's as the defining feature of millenials. Why is millenial even a generational label? Just because 2000 is a milestone number? But that has no influence on people's lives, their culture or their views.

There's no good sociological reason why generational labels should be formed around the year 2000 rather than the years 1974 and 1959, as being born or growing up in the 20 or so years either side of the years 1974 and 1959 has as much influence on a person as being born or growing up in the 20 or so years either side of the year 2000.

My point is that the year 2000 is not more special than any of years of 20th century or any of the other years of the 21st century from an anthropological or sociological point of view, so the generational label of millenial is arbitrary. I don't think that a generational label around the years 1899-1900 and 1799-1800, or 999-1000, a generational label around the years 2099-2100 will be as equally as arbitrary as the label millenial.
>>10638443
I didn't watch the news when I was 5, but I have memories of events in my life from 2001.

>>10637895
The cut-off year will always be arbitrary, as are all generational labels. People born either side near a cut-off year(for example two people born within a year of each other, and either side of a cut-off year), and so will be assigned different generational label, will on average tend to have more in common with each other than with people within there generational labels with whom they share years large age gaps, so what's the point of the generational label in the first place?
>>10638058
I was born in 1996 and I'm not sure if my earliest memories that I can still remember were in 1999 or 2000. The very label of millenial is arbitrary in itself, as is picking memories of the 1990's as the defining feature of millenials. Why is millenial even a generational label? Just because 2000 is a milestone number? But that has no influence on people's lives, their culture or their views.

There's no good sociological reason why generational labels should be formed around the year 2000 rather than the years 1974 and 1959, as being born or growing up in the 20 or so years either side of the years 1974 and 1959 has as much influence on a person as being born or growing up in the 20 or so years either side of the year 2000.

My point is that the year 2000 is not more special than any of years of 20th century or any of the other years of the 21st century from an anthropological or sociological point of view, so the generational label of millenial is arbitrary. I don't think there existed generational labels around the years 1899-1900, or 1799-1800, or 999-1000, a generational label around the years 2099-2100 will be as equally as arbitrary as the label millenial.
>>10638443
I didn't watch the news when I was 5, but I have memories of events in my life from 2001.

>>10638805
*I forgot to mention that the generational labels Gen Z and Gen Alpha are also arbitrary, as are all other generational labels.

>>10636203
Pedophilia isnt fine and grown men should be attracted to teenage girls wtf anon? Moids are worthless

>>10637895
I was 97
It's basically just your choice and who you hang out with. I for one enjoy being the youngest in my IRL friend groups, and generally have more in common with millenials than zoomers
That being said, I have a fair amount of zoomer friends as well so it's really not worth getting all upset over. Define yourself and don't let others define you, yada yada.

>>10638811
fwiw labels are kind of fun

>>10638805
>The very label of millennial is arbitrary in itself, as is picking memories of the 1990's as the defining feature of millennials. Why is millenial even a generational label? Just because 2000 is a milestone number? But that has no influence on people's lives, their culture or their views.
While I don't care where the cutoff is or what labels people use, this isn't entirely true. 80s and early 90s kids will remember how excited, and hopeful everyone was for the future specifically "the next millennium." Basically the opposite of the jadedness that defines the post-2000 years lol. I think having experienced that difference is why the 90s are so nostalgic and why remembering the 90s is more important to being a millennial than being born a certain year.

That said, everyone forgets that millennials are old af adults now though. People think millennials still means irresponsible 20-yr-olds forever and that's simply not true anymore. I wish though lol.

Agree that the other labels are arbitrary and stupid though. At least baby boomers referred to an actual societal phenomenon.

Everyone seen the Nile Perch debacle? The only good thing that came out of the TT comm

>>10641787
I saw that. I think the cardigan is honestly a ripoff unless she gets rid of that red scalloped trim

>>10641787
I was so confused reading about it. Did the girl who made the knock-off actually try to get Nile Perch to publicly state it wasn't a ripoff?

>>10642232
Yes and she said she was going to send a Japanese friend into one of their stores to ask an employee or something

>>10642234
Wow that's actually insane.
Like what is the store supposed to say?

>>10641787
Links/caps?

>>10642253
dreamy_pastel_princess made some videos on it a few days ago

>>10638443
too american centered

>>10642232
Who’s the girl who made the knock off?

>>10642253
The first image is the sample cardigan, which she did initially say would be subject to change. After the controversy she changed it to the version on the bottom.

>>10642263
She's into ddlg so I wish a different, credible lolita was calling out the art thief.

>>10642232
Jesus how cringe. The girl was mass deleting comments that criticised her because she didn't think what she was doing was theft, now she's going to ask the brand directly? Wtf?

>>10642286
to be fair I have seen random normie shit that looks like the ~original~. it is nothing really special.

>>10642225
that sweater is so generic kawaii-shit that it makes me wonder if you throw fits in the Walmart basics aisle screaming they ripped off Uniqlo

>>10636109
Top middle bitch is so annoying, the worst kind of bisexual who calls herself lesbian and of course she turns comments off. As a bi, it's most embarrassing behavior

>>10642263
Holy fuck the fatties in the comments saying it was ok cause they can’t fit the NP one

>>10642330
Yeah, printed cardigans are in right now, I can find similar ones on Shein. Is NP actively selling this cardigan? Does NP even ship overseas? They’re a small store selling that cardigan for $200, they’re gonna be fine

>>10642420
>Is NP actively selling this cardigan?
Yes
>Does NP even ship overseas?
Yes
>They’re a small store selling that cardigan for $200, they’re gonna be fine
That's more of why they wouldn't be fine and why they'd be hurt by people ripping them off. They're not some huge company with hundreds of employees and dozens of stores.

This person had these same NP cardigans saved in their store's Pinterest, and were following NP before people pointed out the similarities. They knew exactly what they were doing. And it's not the first time they've stolen art and designs from others either.

>>10642420
Tell me you're a classless fat fuck without telling me. Go spend your 200 at Mc Donalds to stuff your cheap greedy face

>>10642391
>fatties in the comments saying it was ok cause they can’t fit the NP one
wait... for real? People are justifying this...?
How pathetic. A cardigan not fitting is a "you" problem, not a Nile Perch problem. I am so sick of fat people whining about jfashion.

>>10636109
TikTok anything is trash.

>>10642542
Ayrt
There were way more but too much to cap

>>10642552
>selling "select" sizes == "shitty" business
>gonna buy from the inclusive brand. don't care if they took it
>why would I pick a brand that doesn't want fat people
Holy fuck.
I don't want to live in a world where stores/brand support obesity. In the interest of the global human race, we shouldn't be making 5XL+/etc sizes. This enables people to get insanely fat and feel comfortable. No one should be this fat and feel comfortable with their choices/situation.
Also shouldn't they be ~respecting~ Japan's culture more? Aren't there literal health checks every year where you can get fined for being overweight? If that's true, Nile Perch would 100% not want to support plus sizes, because it's in opposition to a physically healthy country. I admire Japan for actually punishing overweight people. Delusional fatty-chans like these need to be taken out of jfashion.

>>10642557
Not to mention Pinterest recently banned any imagery/posts about weight loss and dieting. We are already in a world in the West where no one can criticize obesity, as a result directly promoting obesity and making being fat and unhealthy the norm.

>>10642557
The response to bringing up Japan was “fat people exist in Japan”

>>10642557
I don't think brands are obligated to make really large sizes and it's wrong to justify art theft by using "fatphobia" as an excuse. But the whole "fat people should have to feel miserable bc it will make them change" just isn't gonna fix things and make them weigh less. In the sense of fashion I think that having access to specific looks or style is not something people are entitled to but having access to clothes in general even if they're ugly muumuus or whatever feels like a basic need that doesn't need to be taken away just because someone is mentally ill; most extreme obesity is somewhat rooted in mental illness after all.

It's fine for brands who choose to make more inclusive sizing so people have something to wear at all, I've seen those people in TV shows that are so big they can't fit any clothes and it seems like it'd be dehumanizing and make it hard to have the self worth to do anything but want to die desu

>>10642559
>Pinterest recently banned any imagery/posts about weight loss and dieting

This was probably a response to people aggregating thinspo material for EDs, I doubt they'd go through the effort of banning weight loss and diet pics purely because of HAES or body positivity.

>>10642557
No one wearing a 5XL feels comfortable with their situation at all anon.

>>10642552
That woman is so pathetic... so much entitlement, and for what? You really flexed on Nile Perch, I guess. You really showed them by throwing a tantrum like a planet sized toddler.

>>10642567
I don't want people to be miserable or want to die. I just think people with extreme obesity shouldn't feel comfortable/complacent, and they especially shouldn't be blaming a brand for not making clothing that fits them. It's like they never stopped to think "why" they don't make sizes that fit them. For a lot of fatty-chans, the world needs to accommodate them.
I feel like America in particular validates obesity to an unhealthy point, and tells people that being 350 lbs is "normal/acceptable/okay." The availability of very large size clothes is validating to people who think "If they sell my size in a store, it's normal to be my weight, right?"
The more we surround ourselves with clothes/media/whatever that exposes us to obesity, the more "normal" and "okay" it becomes.

>>10642563
I had a girl in my comm tell me that there are the same amount of fat people in Japan as America, their evil media just chooses not to display them on purpose. To me, an Asian.

I asked her if she had even been to Japan, or any other Asian country, don't worry I was prepared to stop my eyes from rolling when she responded with the inevitable "no, but...."

>>10637089
Oh Lor why

>>10637089
This is so embarrassing
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMd9weEX8/

>>10642581
I don't think jfashion brands or like stylish clothes need to exist but at least online or somewhere it's reasonable for people to want to have clothes they need to function like professional wear, clothes to be able to start going to the gym or getting exercise, and clothes to wear to do basic needs like buy groceries, undergarments of course, and pajamas. I don't think it's allowing or encouraging complacency to have some brands that exist (not forced of course) so those people can have clothes when they need them. This is obviously different than fashion brands making stuff for the aesthetic or whatever and people demanding they fit every size, but honestly I don't think clothing availability normalizes eating disorders on either end of the spectrum. That'd be like saying extra small clothes are normalizing being anorexic which also isn't true, some people just need to wear those sizes because of the current state of their body, even if they need medical help and to change for their health.

I have been fat and thin but I never once felt stuff fitting me in a store made my weight more or less normal. I knew I was too fat when I was too fat and I know I'm healthy now at a healthy size. People aren't as delusional as you imply to think that their health is okay just because they can access basic needs like clothing.

That again doesn't excuse art theft and no one is entitled to certain clothes beyond what they need to do basic life functions like work, sleep, exercise, or whatever.

>>10642582
Yeah there are “fat people”
But their fat people are no where near the level that Americans are and it’s like 4% of the population vs 50%

>>10642420
Found the Sugar Acid stan. Cry about it harder on her IG posts.

>>10642557
>I admire Japan for actually punishing overweight people.

Japan has socialized healthcare making it easier for people to take care of themselves. You should admire them for having a collective concern for others' well being, not 'punishing' people for being human and needing help/support/reminder to take care of themselves.

>>10642617
Japan's healthcare is expensive and their citizens are too overworked to see a doctor regularly.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdx9uf1b/
This was embarrassing

>>10642328
is the ddlg thing true? she has DNIs in her bio about it, so i assumed she was a safe one lmao

>>10642750
her reddit account had comments about ddlg/her "daddy" publicly right alongside her lolita fashion posts, not sure why she's so heavy on the DDLG shaming when she's a degen herself

>>10642750
>>10642752
Wait is this the only fans lolita?

>>10642756
No that’s tokimekibunny

>>10642752
She posted at one point that she was groomed into a relationship that had kink stuff so i take that with a grain of salt

>>10642766
a convenient scapegoat

>>10642766
Surejan.gif

>>10642750
She talked about it on Reddit.

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>>10642756
desu she hasn't worn lolita in forever and just sperg posts about her bans on tiktok so i dont consider her a lolita anymore anyway

>>10642798
She said it doesn't bring her enjoyment any more so she's not a lolita afaik. Wasn't she kicked out of RC as well?

>>10642328
She isn’t into ddlg people just assumed she was because her boyfriend is taller than her and incels are gross

>>10642814
Screencaps say otherwise, retard.

>>10642747
Look at her size jfc, her whole existance is embarassing

>>10642836
post screencaps or link her reddit then

>>10642870
I'm catching a ban to spoon-feed you. They were already posted to the farm in the lolita thread.

>>10642870
I'm not catching a ban to spoon-feed you. The caps were posted to the farm in the lolita thread.

>>10642836
Ok if your going to make those claims then show the proof

>>10642888
You won’t get banned for providing evidence dumb ass if you aren’t going to justify your claim then I’m gonna assume your a vendetta chan or an incel

>>10642867
So is the fact that you spell like a 13 year old

>>10642896
>You won’t get banned for providing evidence
how new are you?

>>10642934
I’ve been here for three years. If you can’t even link me to a thread or post then I’m calling vendetta.

>>10642948
>three years.

>>10642948
even just doing that is enough to catch a ban these days, if you can't figure it how to find it on your own then you need to lurk more

>>10642957
The number of years I’ve been in the fashion have nothing to do with you failing to provide evidence in what essentially slander

>>10642961
>been on /cgl/ 3 years
>also only in fashion 3 years
hmm

>>10642966
Why are you still dodging the question all I’m asking for is a link to a post or thread showing evidence because you claim someone is a pedo that’s not an unreasonable request

>>10642969
nta but I believe the caps show she is in a ddlg type of relationship, not a pedo but admittedly close, she refers to her partner as daddy.
Just go to lolcow. If you have been in the fashion for three years I am sure you can find it.

>>10642590
Oof that little skirt when she stands up, quality fapables, thx

>>10642590
Oof that little skirt when she stands up, quality fapables, thx

>>10642958
Fuck jannies

>>10642747
>https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMd9weEX8/
shes so hurt its honestly sad

>>10642961
it's only slander when it's not true, her being a little with a daddy is straight from the horse's mouth

>>10642990
Calling your partner daddy is gross but pretty mainstream, she’s probably more of a bandwagoner than an actual kinkster

>>10642590
nothing says "I'm not mad" like a 2 minute video about how unbothered you are

>>10643085
I know you want to stay in denial but she was posting these to bdsm/ddlg subreddits and going into detail about it

Does anyone know the instagram of the AP Paris shop staff girl with the tattoos in their tiktoks?

>>10642286
unpopular opinion but I’m an technical designer and knocking shit off is such an incredibly normal part of how the fashion industry functions that it tickles me when people treat regurgitating basic shit like this as ~serious design theft~. I promise you that almost any brand you like has done this at least once. Anyway I like that the updated version now has cheaper pockets that totally disrupt the strawberry design and buttons that don’t match the theme. At least she found a way to make it worse than the original

>>10642552
>>10642557
it’s already nearly impossible for an indie fashion brand to turn a profit and these cretins want brands to spend more money to also include sizes XXL-5XL. Because you’re adding sizes that use so much material, it increases the average unit cost for all the garments so the brand has to then choose between increasing the retail price (which threatens sales) or reducing their profit margin. This is why brands are so slow to add plus sizes. Don’t get me wrong I’m not fatphobic but if a brand wants to serve larger customers it’s a better business model for the brand to just specialize in plus size clothing

>>10643085
Posting about your daddy to a kinkster reddit is normal and mainstream these days huh?

>>10642328
Take your vendetta elsewhere, she’s not into any ageplay shit. You bring her up in every single board, seethe harder

>>10643430
>thinking one person is posting about you
Oh you sweet summer child.

>>10642350
Agreed. She is actually straight but pretends to like girls for efame. She used to want to be an "japanese" idol too, she is fame obsessed and really cringe.

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>>10643478
nothing here proves this is her you psycho

>>10642747
>https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdx9uf1b/
She looks so sick. It's not normal to have that deep of shadow under your eyes, unless there is something wrong with your body..

>>10643456
She was pretty nice IRL, but she does tout being an influencer like she has real efame.

I've met numerous girls in Seattle area that pretend to be gay. It's just the climate imo. Some people in LGBTQ are rabid against straights.

>>10643073
>>https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMd9weEX8/
She's the one that souinds salty AF lol. No one cares about you, bitch. You just are bringing negative attention to yourself.

P.S. You really need to wear a more supportive bra, your tits are sagging.

>>10643492
if you're too stupid to navigate to another site and see it's her confirmed username/account attached to these posts that's on you

>>10643492
>this isn't her! it can't be! this proves nothing, psycho!!!1
Why are you getting this defensive. You're only mad because you were caught. I can't post the full image with the other comment anon provided but here's another creepy dAdDy post from her.

>>10643626
Maybe the file isn't too big. This includes the comment in >>10643475

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>>10643492
Wow. Imagine being this wrong and in this much denial.

>>10643627
This was 2 years ago, so she was what, 17?

If she was dating an older man and she wanted to please him, of course she would get into his kink.

And of course a dumbass kid is going to post on boards with their name as a username and want to show off their "perfect" relationship and get comments patting her on the back about it.

Who knows if she's still into this now that she's left that partner.

And even if she was, she in no way crosses lolita and ddlg together in public platforms so who the hell cares?

>>10643639
Yeah she posted this, seems like this anon just wants to find a reason for their vendetta

>>10643639
You need to stop self posting. Your backpedaling is ridiculous. Two years isn't that long and if you were that sorry about it, why weren't the ddlg Reddit posts deleted? You're the exact creepy child age player you say not to interact with. Get out because you're not welcome here.

>>10643639
>>10643643
Who the hell defends a little posing as a lolita?

>>10643668
Just a 30 year old who remembers how fucking stupid 17 year olds were when I was that age.

My sister almost got kidnapped by some older guy in Texas that she was talking to on AIM. Scumbag lied about his age.

They'll change themselves to suit these guys because they're idiots.

If you didn't go through that good for you, not everyone has your experience.

But I bet almost everyone did dumb shit when they where younger, we just don't have those receipts.

But that's all I'll say on this, I know some troll will always claim this is a self post

>>10643664
Bro you’re reaching so hard. Let’s say she did ddlg stuff in the past, she obviously doesn’t anymore. Quit projecting and splitting hairs

>>10637089
Her coords are literally ita, do we need to forget that it literally comes from the word meaning “eyesore”? She embodies it but I’ve realized that’s just her brand - and she can’t take concrit on top of that and then threw a temper tantrum.
Top kek watching her divulge like that

>>10643698
Her ita coord was in Lor's most recent upload. Of course it was praised. How embarasing to feature a temper tantrum prone ita on your videos.

>>10637089
omg why is she showing booba in lolita that's so ddlg ita ong. that co ord is not bussin bussin at all fax no printer.

pls add my comment on your next tiktok if you see this

this new captcha is so confusing

>>10642328
There’s a whole thread about her on lolcow that exposed that she is infect into ddlg that “someone” kept trying to report. People over here rarely can talk about her before she herself seethes and screeches to report post after post and gets people blocked. She’s been accused of being a janny too because of it, like honey, make it more obvious.

>>10643684
Funny that the only people upset that she’s getting called out are in defense of her being a little in a space not meant for her.
Imagine being fat and being in denial about that, no doubt about the fact she’s in denial about being in the ddlg community because she knows she would get shunned from the current community that supplies her shopping addiction.

Go back to daddy and get off CGL if you don’t like people discussing why she isn’t welcome here and most of the community does not like her.

>>10643684
>she obviously doesn’t anymore
Lmao and how the fuck do you know? Post proof because this is such a cope. Why defend some nobody this hard?

>>10643664
two years IS a long time, especially from 17 to 19. huge changes in that time. but you're probably 15 so you wouldn't get that.

>>10643752
NTA but no. basically everything is the opposite of what you said. 19 is not very old and most 19 year olds have more in common with a 17 year old than a 19 year old would with even a 21 year old. in general most people don't even mature until 25+ (literally because of brain functionality. did you never go to college?

>>10643752
Literally fuck off you ddlg stan

>>10637089
if you separate her looks from lolita they fit perfect in just alternative fashion and don't even look ugly like that, I don't understand why she's so set on calling it lolita

>>10643753
As someone who went to college at 16 and graduated at 20(now 23)...I was completely different from when I began and by the end. I think I personally matured faster due to traumatic events in my life requiring me to, but two years is still a long time. And it is longer when you're younger than when you're older because you just haven't been alive that long yet and your brain and interests and everything changes much faster at a younger age.

>>10643747
There’s literally a screenshot of her saying that upthread

>>10643778
Efame hungry lolitas will say anything to get a crumb of clout.

>>10643787
I wasn't the original ayrt, I just added my two cents about the age thing. I don't even post lolita stuff pn my social media so idk who you think I am

The biggest problem with ddlg are minors getting exposed to it and engaging in risky behavior because minors are idiots. Then a young woman says she, as a minor, was in an abusive relationship where she felt pressured to perform ddlg and apparently that’s obviously a lie and she is forever a degenerate who isn’t welcome in lolita even though she never promoted it again and doesn’t seems to mean any harm.
Yeah, she should totally be punished for being groomed, makes total sense.

>>10644087
yeah I agree, and I can only hope she doesn't take the bs here too seriously. people are likely just jealous of her wardrobe and want any reason to tear her down?

also idk like this board is always going on abt how men are trash but the second a woman is a victim to an abusive man she's a liar? which is it cgl?

>>10643778
You're only 23, you have no opinion yet.

>>10644224
nta 23 is very different from 21 and under lmao, what are you 50?

>>10644222
It's because we know how women work and how often they use manipulative tactics against each other AND men. Maybe have even used them ourselves, so we are reluctant to believe it without a ton of proof. The people who victimize themselves when they don't deserve to be is what causes the people who have actually suffered abuse to not get believed, so I get it. Nowadays, people claim abuse over literally anything.

I've also actually suffered very heavy physical abuse from a couple men and the majority of the time there is some girl on the other side hand holding my bf or ex bf, victim blaming because he decided to beat me and cry to some other girl

>>10644244
>23 is very different from 21 and under
Hardly.

>>10644249
>and the majority of the time there is some girl on the other side hand holding my bf or ex bf, victim blaming because he decided to beat me and cry to some other girl
This so much. Women do this shit to others for men all the time. In the end we all get burned for trusting anyone one way or another. Not believing the woman doesn't mean siding with the man.

>>10644262
But what is the reasoning to not believing this woman? She isn’t asking for much, just to be accepted at the lolita community and for people not to associate her with a fetish that she claims she was forced to get into.
If you don’t trust her and want to keep an eye open for any weird actions, be my guest, but her story is completely believable and I bet you know at least one girl who had gone through something similar in her teenage years.

>>10644249
You deserve to be called a liar for your abuse if youre going to do the same shit to other women.
Keep sperging about how bad women are. Facts are most crimes are committed by men and women will always have a lot to lose if they lie, and victims either way are never fucking believed.
>>10644285
/cgl/ thinks all women are evil liars like the rest of 4chan so dont expect too much. Women love protecting moids at the end of the day and they love to jerk each others off about how women lie (barely happens and the court never believes her anyway). Just a bunch of retards especially considering jfashion has always been known to attract women who have been abused etc

>>10644249
oooooh ok so you're a man

>>10644289
>You deserve to be called a liar for your abuse if youre going to do the same shit to other women.

Jesus. You can't read. The point is that even people who are abused, don't believe it due to manipulative men/women. Both. It's not one gender. Victim blamers come to be from them crying about something to someone else(lying about situations or abuse), you know, manipulating people into believing shit. Because abusers are fucking manipulative a lot of the time. I'm using knowing how women are, which their forms of retaliation is through emotional manipulation towards people.

Believe it or not, the psychology of an abusee usually isn't crying from a mountain about being abused. So yes, a lot of us think they are liars because we've been abused by the ones who do that.

>>10644292
Illiterate. Why do you even use the internet, if you can't even read? Just disconnect your service and save yourself some extra dollars.

>>10644294
kek seems like I was right since you're so upset

>>10636109
The potential for interesting content is there like shortform lifestyle videos, but most of the content available is created by itas who can't coord for shit. I'd love to see a well-coorded classic lolita do short tea party videos.

>>10644300
not tea party, but petit_piaf has nice classic reels.

>>10644296
Troll

>>10644296
You'd think in the entire heart felt post about being abused and the psychology of abusers and abusees, you'd figure something else out to troll about besides claiming I'm a scrote without reading. You're actually just dumb af.

>>10644307
"heartfelt"? my dude you made up a sob story to "prove" that women are inherently manipulative. Not sure how you thought that would go down on a board frequented by mostly women.

>>10644222
Who is jealous of her wardrobe and shit tier Taobao blouses? Why would the community at large go out of their way to tear down this rando? Stop sliding the humble bragging into your posts.

If she claims she was forced to participate in a kink she didn't like, you would think she'd clear her name and speak out on it. But no. Instead she made one comment on one TikTok video and somehow that is supposed to get visibility. I don't buy her sob story.

>>10644472
Half of lolitas are hoes themselves but pretends to be on some anti sex Virgin. Who cares if the bitch is into some shit or fucking some dudes. 95% of this community are whores with OF on the down low. I don’t get why anons take things to heart. Go cope and Get over the fattie than arguing on boards.

>>10644472
I've been on her page before. She's mentioned it in multiple comment sections and made a couple videos addressing the comments.

She says it's a trigger for her, so I don't understand what you want her to do? Post constant updates repeatedly on her sexual assault and constantly trigger herself when it's something she clearly just wants to move past?

Your obsession is fucking weird af. Like I swear you're the same person who brings up this rando every other week cause no one else cares and doesn't engage in your posts. Vendettachan much? Like bruh, if she says she doesn't want to be associated with it and has renounced any involvement and constantly defends the community from it, then what exactly do you want? What would make you happy? For her to leave the community because she was forced into something as a minor?

Just because she doesn't give you details and screenshots of her abuse doesn't mean it's a 'sob story' kind of sick of you to also just assume she's lying cause she doesn't want to air her abuse out for YOUR peace of mind. Perverted fuck

>>10644479
It's hysterical you think one person is replying to you.
>What would make you happy? For her to leave the community
Yes because who role plays as a child unless if youre sick in the head.

>>10644477
>95% of this community are whores with OF on the down low
I found the scrote

>>10644490
You're literally replying to me, you dumb fuck.

Why are you so obsessed. She literally doesn't engage in it? She was forced to as a minor? Your sick in the head with this witch hunt for what? She doesn't do that and is openly against it. Just say you wanna be her and go.

>>10644491
You're missing out on a lot of free money if you're not. People will buy pictures of your feet for thousands of dollars. You will never have to work a real job again. Easy mode.

>>10644490
You give me Chris Hansen vibes

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>>10644490
She wasn’t exactly roleplaying as a child because she was a fucking child.
That’s the point of protecting minors, they are children, they are vulnerable, of course she was sick in the head, she was being abused. Why are you so against ddlg in the first place if you don’t care about actual children being abused?

>>10644499
so many women brag about being the top whatever percent on OF when they're just starting out as if it's not engineered to do just that, so that when the novelty and newness of you wears off. ad people drop off you have to do more and more explicit content to keep people around. just like with all porn.

>>10644499
so many women brag about being the top whatever percent on OF when they're just starting out as if it's not engineered to do just that; so that when the novelty and newness of you wears off and people cancel their subs you have to do more and more explicit content to keep people around. just like with all porn.

>>10644502

Onlyfans is literally an MLM, only worse because now we're literally objectifying ourselves for the male gaze instead of buying shitty leggings.

>>10644493
Not even that anon but holy shit this reach
>Just say you wanna be her and go

>>10644500
Cause it doesn't fit their narrative of being a fucking weirdo obsessed with canceling her, even though she was a victim.

>>10644507
Not really a reach. Just look at your creepy ass behavior. You're the fucking predator here. You're to delusional to even see it. Get help.

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>>10644513
Catch your (You) and fuck off Liv.

>>10644506
I don't know about the sixth point but OF does take a big cut of profits.

>>10644517
There’s more than one anon defending her

>>10644222
Idk who would be jealous of her wardrobe when we all as responsible adults know that just screams credit card debt.
Most of us who afford whole lolita wardrobes have done so over the course of 5+ years and cherish our items.
You watch her YT and she literally gets out of breath unpacking her newest shopping addiction finds and can’t be calm. It’s almost gross how she’s trying to fill a void and so clearly can’t with the shopping addiction (or food, I mean she is an in-denial-plus-sized-even-by-American-standards bitch) that she’s going to slowly run out of steam. Just let her go through gothic, classic, old school - all the sub genres until she burns herself out and inevitably leaves the fashion.
She’s a hack, and still a little sister with her half-decent/half-ita-everytime baby’s first coords she pushes out. She literally isn’t impressing anyone in this community because we all know how to manage our money in ways that her behavior is just all around an embarrassment to the fashion.

>>10644517
Stop shooping your face so hard and maybe you'll be more likeable

>>10644542
>just screams credit card debt.
I agree with most of your points, but is she not filthy rich? Her dad's the founder of a huge financial advising company in Dallas so I'm more inclined to believe he's paying for it all desu

>>10644549
She complains about her mom asking her to sell her clothes constantly, so doubt it desu

>>10644544
I'm confused. Who is shooping?

>>10644563
The vendetta posted

>>10644549
She’s mentioned a few times her dad covers all expenses so she can spend her money however she wants

>>10644552
If you know that half of the conversation then you know the other half where she said it’s cause her mom doesn’t understand the fashion
We know who you are, you outed yourself multiple times and at this point it’s just sad
Idk what she did to you but seek help instead

>>10644517
Kek go back to complaining about how :( miserable :( your job makes you feel, shoop-chan. Fucking pathetic.

>>10644222
As someone who has a similar wardrobe size I’m not conceited enough to believe that if I was that fat anyone would be jealous of my wardrobe kek

>>10644622
No one cares

>>10644627
Check your blood sugar Liv

>>10644629
You do realize that multiple people know who you are because your vendetta is about as retarded and obvious as your shooping or

>>10644630
I’m not m, seethe

>>10644631
Sure thing "not m", consider seeking a job that doesn't make you a miserable cunt though

>>10644632
You are delusional

>>10644633
Yeah yeah keep throwing them buzzwords, whatever makes you sleep at night. You're so unhinged.

>>10644635
No really, as someone who isn’t shoop-chan it’s hilarious to watch you be this delusional.

>>10644636
I'm just a random anon who thinks "totally not m" is pathetic but sure thing, "not m".

>>10644637
Keep going, it’s funny. In fact you should keep this up every time someone even slightly mentions liv. Doesn’t make you look like a mental patient at all.

This is a perfect containment thread.

>>10644638
Kek go back to shooping and adding some more blush to hide the tears of rage running down your foundation.

>>10644640
Yeah, like that.

https://youtu.be/2UKyj5CzwBA

>>10644635
This isn't even close to unhinged. What is, is posting a someone's entire reddit history when they were a minor. M just hates that she doesn't get attention in her comm anymore. Why was she looking up ddlg stuff anyways? Projecting, much?

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Self posts and wks need to stfu and take it to the farms already. Three threads have devolved into the same shit flinging. Nobody but yall give a shit about these literal whos. Wtf does this have to do with tiktok??

>>10644702
she's famous on tiktok retard

I'm getting triggered by this broken wicker basket and how easily it could snag on something and completely rip it apart.

>>10644732
>famous

Kek. Delusion.

>>10644732
She's one of the most famous lolitas, duh.vAnyone who criticizes her is a jelly hater.

>>10644818
Shes an annoying fat ugly teenager with a shopping addiction chasing efame. Yup totes jelly. Can we talk about other lolita tiktokers now?

>>10644848
Why is it hard for jealous bitches like you not to throw a crumb of appreciation her way? Do you not know what she's done for this community? She one of the best lolita tiktokers with one of the biggest closets. She also wrote articles for the Lolita 101 book. You're just mad you can never be her.

>>10644851
Olivia is the ALL TIME BEST lolita. She has only been in the fashion two years and weighs as much as a baby elephant but she blows every other lolita ever out of the water. Anyone who has anything to say otherwise is a hater and jealous of her wardrobe that she has no idea how to coord

>any posts about dreamy pastel whale that aren't kissing her ass
REEEEE you're mad you can't be her!! She's famous!!! Vendetta!!!

>that same anon
M is the vendetta chan!! Cry harder!!! Shoop more!!!
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There are lolita tiktokers who have way more followers than liv. She still hasn’t hit 20k. She mainly has views due to the “”controversial”” replies she makes to egirl lolitas and because of her constant hauls.

Speaking of which, where can I get rich parents and a sugar daddy that will buy me endless amounts of brand?

>>10644494
That's not how that works
Like, at all. Bait or not please don't fall for the OF meme

>>10644856
>“”controversial”” replies she makes to egirl lolitas
I don't follow her, could you elaborate? Does she call them out or start beef with them?

>>10644862
She calls them out but it just attracts more egirls to her page who leave hate comments. More comments = more time on the fyp

>>10644856
She’s famous, fuck off. All of you are just jealous.

Moomoo, get a life and stop crying on your IG about your ~suicidal ideation~ after your comm banned you for vendetta posting about the cow here. She may be fat but at least she isn't as pathetic as you are lol

>>10644872
It’s been revealed on the farm that it isn’t m doing the vast majority of posting about this girl. It’s just getting pinned on M because L can’t imagine that other people don’t like her

>>10644872
Your vendetta with M is creepy at this point. Why are you posting about her job and mental health on an anonymous Vietnamese basket weaving forum? You're unhinged, especially if you think one anon doesn't like your chunky kawiwi TikTok princess.

>>10644863
She should be called out for her horrendous takes and $5 Lor inspired Taobao blouses

>>10644883
For someone who’s supposedly rich her blouses sure are shit quality. I know she’s too fat to fit into regular blouses but if she has the money couldnt she order some nice custom blouses? Or pay someone to alter brand blouses?

>>10644872
What happened??

>>10636109
The fuck are you doing on TikTok. That nigger shit will give you a tumor.

>>10644884
Metamorphose and most of Baby's blouses are fuck huge. If you can't fit those, you're a ham planet.

Everyone on tiktok is attention whores. Both are trash if they're the ones shitting up the thread talking to each other like bitches.

>>10644888
Well duh L is a hamplanet. I just don’t understand why she can’t afford to have nice blouses custom made if she’s rich

>>10644889
After this image I now see why L is so upset over this girl kek. She makes L look even more dumpy and downsey than she already does

>>10644889
You are so mad over this girl you think everyone replying to you in this thread is her kek

>>10644890
Because no amount of money can buy taste or fashion sense.

>>10644893
Everyone knows momo uses cgl anon

>>10644896
Yeah but that doesn’t mean it’s just momo posting about liv. It’s high key narcissistic and delusional to assume there’s only one person who dislikes you and voices that opinion. But that’s not surprising because liv has already shown she has actual delusions like how she thinks she isn’t plus size and gets confused at the numbers for her measurements because she sees herself as smaller than what she actually is.

>>10644897
Implying it's not equally delusional to think everyone who isn't onboard with this boar hunt is Liv. This thread has been derailed to sperg about a literal who.
Imagine caring this much about a fat chick.

>>10644898
Fat chicks are fun to make fun of though. When M weighs 200lbs and cries about how she’s actually some slim waisted uwu smol girl let me know and then I’ll make fun of her too

>>10644899
You need a job, anon/

>>10644900
Weak comeback

>>10644872
which comm banned her?

>>10644901
Wasn't a comeback, just an observation.

>>10644903
It’s not even true. Try harder

>>10644896
She's a known poster and pops up in the art thread but that doesn't equate to her using a VPN and that she's posting about dreamy pastel porker. Stop sperging about your flimsy tin foil theory.

>>10644896
Everyone knows O*ivia posts here and the farms because of the mass deletion of comments mentioning her. It works both ways.

>>10644906
Kek, farmhands called Olivia out in the lolita lolcow general because she kept reporting everything about her as “doxing” her.

>>10644902
why will nobody answer me

>>10644910
Because you’re a newfag and need to lurkmoar

>>10644908
After seeing the retarded tinfoiling about the other girl, I think Olivia called up her only two friends and had them post all of this shit in order to feel better about being a fat ddlg fag. Her coords suck and her content with her pedo reddit boyfriend is not going to appeal to zoomers and she needs to get that through her thick head.

>>10644918
It’s obvious that’s what happened. She’s pinning all this stuff on M out of jealousy because M is half her weight

>>10644702
Do you know where you are newfag? Liv, you mad we’re calling you out here now? Take your fat, in debt childish ass out of this community.

>>10644898
It’s not just making fun of her, it’s like the Bilbo Rose situation - she’s just an embarrassment to the society, along with her ddlg involvement.
To put it plainly she’s not classy, she’s just trashy and people don’t want to be around her or have her shit content repressing this community.

>>10644896
Pearlie Cute uses it too and admitted she does in one of her vids.

>>10644936
Nta but I don't get why using cgl is so taboo. I'm a lonelita, but honestly cgl is extremely useful for updates and unfiltered opinions.

>>10644896
Sometimes u wonder if these people are the ones calling me an autistic nigger

>>10644947
Uh have you not seen how unhinged and toxic this board can get? Since we’re all anonymous there’s no telling who exactly you’re replying to.

>>10644947
because whiney itas think it's only used to repost their photos and say nasty things

yet again the post count went down on this thread.
the comments that were deleted weren't breaking rules either.
it's getting obvious who's reporting shit or who's a jannie.