/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>Sweet lolita looks like freaky ageplay too much of the time.

>can AP bring back the weird mini skirts please, those were awesome.

>recent moitie looks like paper bag dresses with hurr durr lace slapped somewhere on it. can we get some non fatty op ;_;

Maybe I have terrible taste, but Violet Fane's prints are some of the only prints that I actually like
>>10650587
>can AP bring back the weird mini skirts please, those were awesome.
Holy shit this, I love the Holy Lantern ones

>>10650587
None of these are unpopular

>>10650593
Go tell that to the multiple online arguments i see happen and me being called retarded when i express these opinions. I’m a lonelita and have no idea what irl lolitas think

this is probably popular here on /cgl/ but seems unpopular at large as per lacemarket because of how often i see this garbage

but "plus size friendly" in listings should ONLY be used with standard sized items which are truly plus size friendly, like a fully shirred item or a sack cut item.

a skirt with a minimum waist of 38" is not "plus size FRIENDLY," it is simply PLUS SIZE with no further qualifiers. it is literally unwearable by people who are standard size.

>>10650592
Honestly, Violet Fane's prints are some of my favorites, even including the major brands. The problem is that the dress cuts and fabric quality are pretty terrible most of the time. If they could fix that they'd be a huge hit. As it stands, a lot of people are still buying their stuff even knowing about the quality issues just because they like the prints so much.

>>10650640
What in the hell has a minimum waist of 38"?

>>10650646
When I preordered the funeral jsk I thought the quality was wonderful. Vibrant print, good construction, nice lining / lace. However my friend around the same time, purchased the asylum OP, and on of the pleather clasps broke when she tried it on. It's weird how inconsistent it is.

>>10650587
I only think sweet itas look like age play and even then...Most of the age players I see on IG wear adult diapers, bedazzled pacifiers, and onesie romper nightmares with care bears and shit on them.

>>10650640
>LM listings saying 'plus size friendly' instead of 'plus size'
I think thats probably just a side effect of 'plus size friendly' being the only filtering option on LM for years until they changed to measurements. The term probably just stuck and people don't care to update their listings/make the distinction because it's not like normal sized people would search through that tag anyway.

>>10650592
>>10650646
I like a lot of Violet Fane's prints too, but knowing their quality I'd rather buy them on a notebook or something instead of shelling out on their main pieces.

My unpopular opinion is that I love longer cuts in classic and I hope the trend sticks around for a long time. I'm not even tall, I just think they look really elegant and pretty.

sometimes i admire the naive nature of itas wearing nothing but cheap taobao crap. they look so happy and sometimes they even look cute if not cheap. and i'm over here sweating over my perfectionism, so picky that i barely buy new main pieces anymore because i can't find my dream dresses and everything else is such an ugly bore. maybe this is more of a feels thread thing but tldr i sometimes admire the carefree nature of newbies and itas and respect their horrible choices because they look so damn happy

>>10650653
Why do you see ageplayers on insta

>>10650673
i also love longer cuts in classic. i had a real lol at some literal who snarkily tweeting at the designer of innocent world in english about their long cuts. if you don’t like them, ffs just don’t buy them, stop thinking the iw designer cares what foreign itas think. she has built an entire brand and absolutely understands her target market

>>10650647
legit lol even someone pretty overweight doesn't even get near that until they're in deathfat territory

>>10650646
it's such a shame, i was really considering making a VF purchase until i saw some reviews of the construction

>>10650673
i think the longer cuts are so elegant even though i can't pull them off, some people really can't stand the thought of something not being specifically made for them

Popular lolitas/lolitas with tons of followers are playing on easy-mode when it comes to searching for wishlist items. I find it hard to actually admire them when they are begging followers to help them find a dress. It feels gross.

It's much harder to be a lonelita in the fashion. All you have is yourself and getting things is a grind/labor of love.

>>10650725
There are hunters on /cgl/ dream dress/etc threads all the time anon, try your luck there

>>10650728
My remaining dream dresses/wishlist items are all super popular, thanks to the sweet boom. So I feel like using the dream dress thread would be more of a "get in line" situation.

I'm just bitter and old, but it just gets me wrong when a popular lolita on SM cries about not having XYZ print and then two days later they thank a follower for selling it to them. It feels like a huge handicap to have people wanting to sell to you or give you things just because you post a lot on SM.

>>10650719
I think I found the tweet you're talking about, that's so embarrassing. IW didn't even bother shipping overseas for months during the pandemic even though other brands were able to so they clearly don't care about foreigners or need the business. Long cuts sell so I doubt they'll go away because some random ita on twitter made passive aggressive comments.

>>10650724
>some people really can't stand the thought of something not being specifically made for them
That's a huge problem with this community in general.

>>10650719
I agree. I'm loving these longer cuts for IW. Only thing I'd complain about regarding recent releases is how similar a lot of the solid colour OPs feel. I sometimes find it hard to distinguish between them in my mind, probably because there's often no details on the skirt and similar lace details on the bodice.

>>10650725
I sort of feel you anon, I feel like a lot of the more popular gothic lolitas have this "invisible" group who they end up selling their Moitie to.

>>10650717
Because they love to infest our hashtags? I really envy you if you don't see them. It's gotten to the point where I don't even explore the hashtags anymore because of degenerates.

>>10650729
>People wanting to sell to you… just because you post on SM
Not gonna lie, I really think you’re deluding yourself into thinking this is happening (in the lolita community, with dream dresses/WTBs) more often than it actually is. A lot of those people are friends, and friends tend to sell within their own circles. I really can’t imagine some random follower snatching a sought after dress from their closet or spamming F5 on mercari to appease someone of say, girlytoot’s caliber.

Sounds like you’re on social media anyway, so why don’t you use it for its intended purpose and… make some friends?

>>10650743
I agree.

If it's anything like the fashion style I wear, it's not so much a secret club as much as people just posting the links to what they're selling in discord groups & the ilk because it's the easiest way to sell. I guess it does kind of make it look like there's a 'secret club', but it's really not the case. The items just move super fast because they're posted somewhere they're quickly snatched up.

I know in my style, people usually advertise they're about to sell prior to listing so there's usually people already lined up to buy.

>>10650738
Given I haven't tried, but IG doesn't even allow for the '-' function in search, does it.?(e.g. -#bsdm or -#little)

>>10650717
I can't much use Insta either to search. I kind of just have to click stuff found on pages I know aren't ageplay. If I search the tags for my fashion, whether the yumekawaii or yamikawaii spectrum, all I get is weird fetish shit now too. The ageplay mostly shows when I try finding yume stuff.

For some reason the ageplayers keep using our tags which makes us look like a bunch of perverts unduly to the unaware.

>>10650743
ia for the most part, I think >>10650725 is over-estimating how much social media helps.

though I think someone with a big following probably DOES get items a little bit easier. A little. Not that girls are stalking mercari for them or throwing DD's their way, but just because they get more exposure. When you tell a group of 10 lolitas "I want to buy this DD" chances are none of them have it. If you tell a group of 1k lolitas "I want to buy this DD" then chances are one of them already owns it and wants to sell it. And if it's rare, they may be MORE willing to sell it directly to the 'e-famous' person, rather than going through the hassle of listing it and/or risking getting scammed.

>>10650587
If sweet lolita looks like age play, why would you want the mini skirts back?

>>10650769
Not same anon, but because miniskirts don't scream 'little kid'.

>>10650724
>Deathfat territory
I have a BMI of 24 and my waist is 34 inches, am I a deathfat

>>10650777
same, it sucks. I am 5'11" too, it is terrible.

Make sweet dresses longer. That is all.

>>10650991
i just wish they'd make the adjustable straps longer, the bodices always hit above my waist

>>10650991
I feel this so much. Just got my Toy Fantasy JSK and I just assumed it would have adjustable straps, but it does not. It's so short!

>>10650777
>>10650778
shit, this must be 5'3 bias. if it's any consolation i'm sure you both are gorgeous in cuts i could never pull off. i'm sorry tall anons!<3

I hate YRU and Demonias in sweet coords. There are a few styles of either brand that are acceptable for gothic/punk coords, but none of that shit belongs in sweet.

>>10650991
Huge disagree. I love it when the dress hits mid thigh, I just like the proportions. Also I think your opinion is actually the popular one and mine is the unpopular one. Longer lengths are being made and doing well across pretty much all brands lately. I wish there were more sweet dresses in the short old school cuts.

>>10651046
ntayrt most of my old school dresses hit mid thigh / over knee like these ones, but I always wear a pair of peeking bloomers so it doesnt appear as short. I usually dont see a lot of sweet dresses being worn with peeking bloomers though, but I would actually like to see that though. Idk might look good.

I dont really care if egirls call their weird hot topic aliexpress outfits lolita as long as they aren’t doing anything sexual or suggestive

>>10650996
You too? I do appreciate the dresses where you can move the buttons yourself to mitigate some of the bodice riding up, but I dunno if it's a feature on newer dresses anymore.

>>10651046
Based anon

>>10651046
Same

>>10651046
it looks a lot more age-player with it in that length, especially when gulls dont know how to walk correctly or drag their feet

>>10651046
>>10651133
and by that length I mean below/hiding knee-short. It visually shortens the gull, throwing off proportions to look more childish which is kinda gross imo

peeking bloomers looks awful literally always, it turns a great outfit into a toddler clown outfit. i dont' care if it's old school. i've been around since the early 2000s, it was hideous then and it's hideous now.

>>10651145
the very fact that it's hideous is part of the charm

>>10651145
Yeah, I know I know, you guys think greentext is autistic shit but I grew up in the 80s so it’s what I know.
>gym lock starting to get me, in my country we cant go the gym (important later)
>now this in itself is not my problem as I am home gym master race
>shortly before everything kicked off I started seeing this girl at my gym
> now at the moment we’re in a long distance relationship due to the fractured wrist
>she keeps apologetic for her sister but it’s not her fault that she owns a hammer
>and I’ve started seeing another girl, my Uber eats driver who is very flirty with me
>she always comes to my house sucking a lollipop and acts very dominant to me
>Anon big boy why don’t you ask me what time I will come over for you to pick me
>but honestly I don’t see how this would be a good move for me career Wise?
>like I’ve been doing this job since early 2006 and it’s the only thing I’m good at

>>10651134
100% agree I refuse to wear dresses that go below the knee because it makes me look like a child. not even high waisted cuts make me look like a baby but if it touches my knees I instantly look 12. why? the fuck?

>>10651182
Wow, I always thought knee/slightly below looked really lady-like. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned.

>>10651154
Larping

>>10651046
Same. Longer dresses make me look short and stumpy unless I wear higher heels with them. A couple inches above the knees is my preference.

>>10651187
At the knee feels weird for me. I either want just above the knee like some shorter lolita pieces, or mid calf/tea length where it covers the knee and goes longer. I'm kinda short though, about 5 ft, so my proportions and the way stuff looks might read differently on a normal height or tall person.

>>10651187
i think they definitely do in classic, but I wear sweet and longer lengths look silly as hell.

>>10650651
I have the funeral JSK and the construction is terrible. The print, lining, and lace are nice but... It is not drafted to fit most shapes of human. It's very... Blocky? Tubular? And the straps won't stay up, because the buttonholes for the buttons on the straps are situated in the shirring panel, so the buttons keep coming undone. And the fabric is waaaay too flimsy for a bodice, especially a pointed bodice like that. A bodice with this design should be structured, and either use a sturdier fabric, or use interfacing. Or just, SOMETHING. As is it just buckles and looks awful. I can't wear this dress as it is, and I can't in good conscience sell it either, without major alterations.

>>10650673
Their skirts are fine though. The construction problems shine through in the dresses, but with the skirts it's not really a problem. I love their tights and jewelry as well. It's sad that the dresses are so bad, because some of the prints really are lovely.

>>10651211
I know it's blasphemous but my solution to the Funeral's straps always falling is to tie the straps behind my neck. My wig is usually covering it so other people can't tell.

>>10650743
>why don’t you use it for its intended purpose and… make some friends?
the purpose of SM is not making friends, but rather harvesting an engagements for whatever purpose

>>10650640
There are people who list max waist measurements over min.. and it drives me up the wall. I don't want to wear a potato sack. If they are posting max waist size, is that an indicator they stretched it all to hell and back?

>>10651154
What does this even mean?

>>10651187
style definitely make a difference here, i think it can look very nice in classic/gothic but can look like kid's clothes in sweet. i also think that your general body type/proportions can increase or reduce the effect.

I can't stand lolitas with greasy, unkempt hair. I'm not asking for elaborate hairdos, or misako-tier hair texture : simply a clean, untangled hair. Yet it seems too much for a lot lolitas.
It's even worse when they wear brand, their ratty hair clashes so much with the quality of the dress.
It's especially embarassing with elegant classic.

For some reason, gulls would rather screech at fatties, rather than people being plain gross in frilly clothes.

>>10651237
This makes me want to go insane too. Not everyone approaches clothing wondering whether they can squeeze their bodies into it.

>>10651347
I'm really self conscious about this. I wash my hair daily, but still before the end of the day it appears greasy. I bring a brush and powder with me but I'm always worried about becoming sweaty and greasy. Because I am so greasy, my makeup also starts to slide off within 2 hours of applying it. I shower again when I get home from being out.

I get acne too, from all the oil. Even though I use anti-acneic products and have a skincare routine. I oil cleanse my makeup and sunscreen off and use moisturiser as well, but my skin is just awful.

Is there any way to make my body produce less grease and sweat?

>>10651355
you may be overproducing oil because your skin is too dry and you’re washing too much

>>10651355
After doing a course of accutane my skin stopped producing so much oil, and solved my horrific acne problem. If your acne's bad enough it might be an option for you.

>>10651355
Use gentle products and don't wash with hot water. If you're washing hair every day maybe try sulfate free shampoo? Light weight moisturizers and chemical exfoliants. Japanese sun screens are great under make up and can be used as a primer. I use the Isehan sunkiller ones.
Anxiety makes sweating 10 times worse.

>>10651359
This. Generally your skin and hair over produce oil when washed too frequently.

Your skin might over produce oil based on the climate where you live and the products you use as well.

>>10651347
I hate fb. It won't let me block Naturally Racist, so I have to see her greasy bangs five times if I'm looking at memes.

>>10651359
I've tried washing my face only once a day but there was no difference. I have been this way for many years.

>>10651360
My acne itself isn't the worst, I rarely get cysts. I'm just very oily and covered in tiny bumps. My skin texture is just... nothing resembling smooth.
I'm a bit worried about accutane due to side effects, but I will consider it if it can tone down the oil production. Thank you for the advice! Did you find the side effects to be bad?

>>10651362
I use cool water and Cerave Hydrating Cleanser. My shampoo does contain sulfates, but my hair is soft and shiny for the few hours before it gets greasy. But certainly I can try switching shampoos.

As for moisturiser, I'm using Cerave PM along with some mild chemical exfoliants. My sunscreen is Rohto Skin Aqua, which I like. The one I use has a very mild light green tint which helps cover up some of the redness. Might try the Isehan Sunkiller though if it's good!

You might have a point about the anxiety. I don't think I'm necessarily a very anxious person. But that doesn't mean I'm not anxious on some level, and that maybe I just don't notice it emotionally, but my body is expressing it in the form of sweat.

>>10651363
It could be climate. Do you think it could be water quality as well? The water quality where I live is incredibly bad. The water is so hard that I find limescale on everything I own.

As for overwashing, I've always been this way, even before I started washing so often. So I don't know. Maybe?


I think overall I might have to ask my doctor about accutane. I might not be given it due to history of depression, but I have been non-depressed for several years now, so maybe that will work in my favour. Thank you all for the advice, I really do appreciate it.

>>10651368
You're definitely washing your hair too much. I switched to using a sulfate and silicone free shampoo twice a week
and it's done wonders. You're going to be a greaseball for the first month, but it's so worth it in the end. I suggest you try cutting out silicones as well and be mindful about not using any conditioner/oils near your roots.

As for your face, consider getting a lower pH cleanser as your current one might be stripping your skin too much.

>>10651368
Dye or bleach your hair. My hair is naturally a pain in the ass to deal with for the grease because I have fine hair. I dye or bleach it regularly as soon as the roots start to show to stave that off, honestly. It works wonders and I don't need to be concerned about it at all.

>>10651368
If it's bumpy and oily salicylic acid can help

>>10651368
Niacinamide and very hydrating products are going to be good for your skin. It sounds dehydrated. Once your skin is more balanced then you can add in a chemical exfoliant. Accutane is a last resort measure.
>source: my skin was the exact way

>>10651368

Adding to the advice bandwagon, a silicone brush you use while you shampoo your hair has been a lifesaver for me. Decreases greasy buildup. I bought a cheap one from daiso bit you can also get it anywhere including Amazon.

I also have a pretty big problem with greasy skin and seconding that salicylic acid helps a lot. Benzoyl peroxide also helps quite a bit, especially with the bumps.

I'll never understand how lolitas complain about prices of brand and then go and buy shit from Chinese lolita brands.

You know, that shit was cheap back in 2010. It's not now. I see people try to resell that shit on LM for nearly the price they bought. I'd never buy that shit for that price, the brands spent pennies on those materials.


You're literally paying second hand brand prices for poor designs, poor quality, poor QUALITY CONTROL, and 3-4 months wait. I really do not understand it.

The new candy fairy headbow is cuter

>>10651368
It's been over a week since I washed my hair and it's still not too greasy.

My routine: Scrub crap out of my scalp with a silicone brush. Condition hair from my nape down. Rinse rinse rinse. Put in a drying balm. Brush twice a day, flipping hair to cover my face so it gets brushed with my bangs. Rinse with water as needed. Mid-week "wash" scalp with water and after condition ends with a little argan oil.

For you, find leave in products for fine hair. Cut down on washing gradually. Get a good brush.

>>10651471
Agreed

>>10651471
>>10651508
Third'd.

I'm not sure why anyone wants that tacky tulle shit from the original release. Go to the craft store and make one, then.

>>10651471
Agreed. I like both releases, but the redesigned headbow is great.

I actually love it so much that I ordered two, but I think I'm dumb because the white and sax x pink look exactly the same on the bow part. Oh well.

>>10651518
The only difference is the pearls. I think the black one is just dark pearls, so I'm probably going with that one.

>>10651528
The black one look like it has pink pearls, while the white and sax/pink look like the have sax pearls.
When I ordered, I thought the white headbow had white pearls, but I think I'm wrong and am essentially getting the same headbow twice (except for the fabric on the band).

>>10651368
If you're worried about Accutane, ask your dermatologist about Tretinoin. It'll wreck your face for about 3 months and then give you the best skin of your life. I used to have horribly greasy skin and tiny bumps around my jaw but now manage it with Tret, Eucerine Redness Relief Night Cream (2x a day), and for foundation the ONLY one that doesn't slide off is L'Oreal Infallible Pro-Matte Liquid Longwear Foundation. Never expected the cheap stuff to work, but here we are. Good luck!

as much as i like fannys lolita content, i cannot read one more caption about how bland some food she ate was or how every food in japan is some mirage of flavor.

>>10651647

oh my fucking god this. she lives literally next to some of the best food and she just complains about how shitty western food is in japan. like no shit? it's not what Japanese are good at? just go enjoy some nice noodle dishes or some izakaya digs holy shit, it's cheaper and it tastes better.

>>10651404
Thank you for the advice, I will give it a go. My current cleanser has a pH of 5.5, is that too high?

>>10651418
I'll consider it. I really like the natural colour of my hair though!

>>10651419
Thank you! I do use salicylic acid. It's certainly cleared out the pores in my nose, they used to look pretty bad but they're fine now. It's a good ingredient.

>>10651438
Aye, I've tried a hydrating multi-layer Korean skincare routine, with stuff like snail slime and hydrating toners, for a few years. Made my skin nice and plump, but no change to the bumps! Might go back to it anyway for that nice plumpness.

>>10651441
Ooh interesting, it sounds like it would feel good while washing my hair too. Might just grab a cheap one from Aliexpress.

>>10651472
Thank you for the routine rundown! When you flip your hair so it gets brushed with your bangs, is that to ensure that oil gets distributed evenly? My bangs definitely show grease quicker.

>>10651623
Ah, thank you. I was on Tretinoin for about a year and my skin didn't change at all. I was a little dry/peely at first but besides that nothing changed. My skin never purged or got worse, but it never improved either.

Shirring is ugly, non-shirred dresses are so much prettier 99% of the time

I think sweet Lolita should be classified as a different style entirely from gothic and classing and not just as a sub style.

>>10651057
How to differentiate a larper from a Lolita 101

>>10651725
>inb4 fatties REEE-ing at this

>>10651728
not a larper, I just can’t be assed to care what people think anymore as long as they don’t assume it’s fetish shit.

>>10651685
Yes, that's why I brush my hair like that. Some people will literally just wash their bangs too.

For your skin, there are lots of AHAs and BHAs to try. Azealic acid is great for pimples. And I find the type of face oil that gets milky with water to be a great cleanser.

>>10651727
im a chubby-chan and this is my motivatoin for loosing weight, because princess seams are the best seams

>>10651934
Thank you, washing just my bangs might be a good idea for me as well. I've tried many AHAs and BHAs over the years!

And actually, while I don't think azelaic acid counts as an exfoliator, I really like it. I use it often, I find it helps with redness and scarring more than any other ingredient. And as for the oil cleanser, I use one from Hadalabo. It's fantastic for taking off sunscreen, 10/10 would recommend.

>>10651725
I used to feel that way but for some reason I've gone right to the other end of the spectrum. I love shirring in lolita now (shirring on normie clothes, ugly as fuck). Only thing is, I think shirring stretched to the absolute max looks bad if it's a fully shirred bodice, bust or waist. For example imo, heavier people don't suit Shirring Princess.

>>10651237
I don't think it's an indicator necessarily. Just that more people ask about maximum measurements than minimum.

>>10651355
I have the oily skin problem too. It's ok without make up but as soon as I put foundation on my skin starts to sweat it off and I feel so gross, especially in summer. Makes me avoid wearing make up. Anyone got advise?

>>10652109
I have really good skin, but when I go outside in the heat even without make-up it makes my skin break out. So I think that's just how it is.

>>10652097
Same. Shirring princess is my favorite dress. I could wear it every day

>>10651355
Idk how realistic this will be for you but stop washing your hair daily. Especially if your shampoo contains sodium laurel sulfate/SLS. You're stripping your hair of oils so it ends up overproducing. I used to wash my hair every day (have very fine hair) and if I ever skipped a day my hair would be greasy as fuck by midday.
I started washing my hair every other day, then after it adjusted, every third day. Now I can go around five days without washing my hair before it gets greasy. I use a shower cap in the shower to avoid getting it wet. It's definitely healthier now than it used to be.

>>10652109
Honestly for the summer it's best to just suck it up and go foundation free, or try a light coverage powder foundation.

Choosing lolita pieces, dressing yourself well, and looking good takes a certain level of taste. You either have it or you don't.

>>10652194
Totally agree. You can tell instantly who normally wears jeans and a t-shirt and puts on a "lolita outfit".

>>10651657
>>10651647
Yo Yo Yo this has been on my mind for ages. She complains about everything on her insta stories like a god damn child. I remember when her building was under construction she wouldn't stop posting about how annoying the workers were and how they invaded her privacy blah blah. Maybe stop posting on instagram and call the construction company like a normal adult if you really want to complain? Also she needs to cut her hair, those dead ends make me want to barf.

>>10651657
Haha she just posted about eating gyoza, way to tell she goes here

>>10652223
Yes!

People who treat it as a costume and wear it 5 times a year at max are easy to spot because you can tell when someone lacks "coord experience" (of course there's people who rely on full sets thus never actually look unexperienced but that's not the type of person I'm talking about).
Those people can't even be considered lolitas, because to be a lolita imho, you have to at least try to actually wear the fashion in your daily life otherwise you're a larper with no rights to get offended when someone calls you that or ITA.

>inb4 "fuck lifestylers"
This is the unpopular opnion thread, loves.

>>10652223
>jeans and a t-shirt
Gonna have to disagree with the sentiment that people who wear jeans and a t-shirt automatically have no taste. A lot of people just like jeans.

I think some people might have already touched on this take in the thread but I'll try to add to it too.

Dresses with full shirring like Shirring Princess are like clickbait to bigger lolitas. Just because it technically fits you, doesn't mean it looks good.

>>10654266
Totally. There is a huge difference between wearing well-fitted, fashionable jeans + a quality T shirt and like... the walmart elastic waist bargain bin + the thinnest baggiest t shirt. Americana jeans and a T shirt style can be very stylish if worn thoughtfully. It's popular for a reason

>>10654166
She does, she even complained about content that was posted on the farms. Idek why she comes to these places to make herself more miserable than she already is. She cares way too much about engagement like SM is the only thing she lives for.

Leopard/cheetah/zebra prints should be utilized more in lolita fashion. The only animal print that can burn in hell is that stupid cow print. All over cow prints should just die.

>>10654530
Cow prints are the essence of 2020 covid-itas and lor-itas so yes, burn them

>>10654432
>Just because it technically fits you, doesn't mean it looks good.
I think it is more like, just because you can get into it, does not mean it fits you. Fitting is more than just being able to put it on. I wish people understood that.

>>10651355
At this point either switch products or shower less. 2 showers a day gives your skin absolutely no oppertunity to regenerate its barrier so of course it produces gallons of grease to compensate for that. You will be gross for a while but trust me, it works.

>>10654595
That's fair. I guess I will have to try it. I only shower twice a day in summer, because I sweat so much. It's gonna be tough cause I actually am autistic (diagnosed, not like 4chan autistic lmao) and have sensory issues where feeling sweat or grease on my skin or hair makes me want to claw my face off. And I can smell BO on myself too, even when my family members claim there is no smell. But maybe I can desensitise myself. Or maybe I could still shower, and just wash pits, bits, and tits and leave my face alone? I take cold showers so as not to upset my skin too much.

>>10654600
Skin neutral ph soaps can work too. Small anecdote but my (thank god)ex stepdad used to bitch at me because i didn't shower everyday. I have a water allergy and neurodermitis so a daily shower would mean me constantly bleeding because my skin gets so dry that it rips. At the time there was a huge scabies epidemic and take a wild guess who got it? Hint hint it wasn't me.

So basically what I'm saying is give your skin a rest from time to time. If you have sensory issues maybe pat down with a towel after you get home or talk to a doctor.

Meta is trash. People who think they're being funny and quirky for worshipping them because meta is so ~different~ know meta is shit but are too desperate to look cool and unique to admit this. We all know.

>>10654632
ok Tyler stan

>>10654632
Meta hasn't produced any quirky shit in a while anon and much kf what they did do wasn't always the "quirky" stuff. Really it's people who know nothing about Meta who assume everything they release is the camo or leopard print shit (AP produced leopard print too btw). They literally just released the most adorable cat print; and one of their last releases before that was just cute strawberry prints.

>>10654530
Cow print is best print

>>10651728
not feeling personally invested in outfits that total strangers post online is just being normal

>>10654632
is your only knowledge of meta from posts on this board lmao

>>10654530
are you black

>>10654785
Does it matter, racist-chan?

>>10654632
meta puts out tons of normal shit and their quality is way better than AP, have you ever even owned any lmao

>>10654823
Lets all mutually agree to keep meta a secret from the ethots so the quality stays up

>>10654817
Nta, but animal prints don't look good on most races and only one predominately likes animal prints. I don't think it's exactly "racist" in this case at all to assume your race.

>>10654848
Nta but animal prints looks fine if they're used intentionally as part of someone's style. Just because the 90s or early 2000s overused it in tacky ways doesn't mean it looks terrible on everyone but black people.

>>10654905
It's literally a Black culture piece. Don't culturally appropriate it, 90s wasn't tacky either, it's racist to say that. 90s and 2000s were beginning to embrace bipoc in movies and shows (fresh prince, everybody hates chris, living single, bill cosby show etc) and bipoc styles became a part of mainstream (white) culture. 2000s and 90s iconic pieces were iconic because they embraced for the first time Black tastes, you're just racist for thinking it was tacky :)

>>10654916
I'm literally a black person who used to love animal prints, idk why you're trying to do some sort of "you're racist, gotcha" moment here.

The people who used it in non tacky ways weren't tacky, but every other pair of leggings or shirt being animal print without it really being worn in an intentionally styled outfit kinda is. It's like how tracksuits aren't generally tacky when worn intentionally as an outfit but do have a connotation with trashy europoors wearing them to some degree despite it looking fine when styled well.

anons who screech and froth at the mouth by the mere sight at a fat person in lolita are just as annoying as fatty chans who screech and froth at the mouth by the mere sight of someone not catering to and coddling their unhealthy lifestyle.

>>10651145
Possibly not an unpopular opinion but most of the "old school" lolitas are new lolitas who weren't even around when old school was just regular lolita. They're just edgylords that jumped on the bandwagon when old school got popular.
>>10651153

>>10655028
well duh most of them all in their early 20s, they wouldve been young children when oldschool was regular lolita

>>10655030
Which is why I find them tryhard edgelords, it's not like that stupid behavior was common back then.

>>10655039
>stupid behavior
like what for example

The replica-coded colourways of Holy Lantern (picrel excluding wine) are so gross and tacky looking. I can't believe they sold at all, let alone that lolitas are charging absolute maniac ripoff-tier prices for them secondhand.

>>10655039
>it's not like that stupid behavior was common back then
idiots and edgelords have existed among every generation, we just notice the ones into lolita right now bc of social media and us also being into lolita.

>>10654916
You sound like a zoomer who learned about fashion and history from tiktok.

>>10655039
Idk why oldschool = edgelord but ok

>>10655154
the grey one is the only valid colourway in that selection

>>10654916
>claims wearing animal skin is black culture
>calls other racist while stereotyping black people as cavemen

>>10655215
animal skin=/= animal print

>>10655039
a, do you even wear lolita
b. what specifically is/was stupid about wearing lolita?

>>10655217
are you aware that animal prints are supposed to look like animal skin, right?

>>10655217

>>10654916
the origin of the popularity of animal prints is actually rich white people that went trophy hunting for exotic animals, emulating the appearance of fur was a way for the poor to emulate their lifestyle

>>10654916
>>10654848
Why do we even need to bring race into this? Effing ridiculous that wearing certain prints suddenly is appropriating xyz123 culture or it only looks good on certain types of people. Fashion is fashion...I'm more interested in evolving lolita fashion than holding it back because only black/asian/white/brown/aliens/centaurs/sorcerers/mermaids etc wear animal prints. I wish people would just focus on frills, lace, and fabric and check their politics at the door.

>>10655246
Because animal prints only look good on black people. Even the PoC up there called it tacky. I think it's tacky in general, but black people at least can pull it off.

Here we go again with x race people claiming everything. It's a fucking leopard print stfu.

Reminder not to reply to bait

>>10655255
Anyone reasonably stylish and/or wearing a full brand set can pull it off, regardless of race. It just looks bad often because it was overused in cheap and ugly ways for a long period of time. And even if it is tacky in a bad way a lot of the time, some tacky things are good or cute when done well desu, like certain themes or styles in lolita or lolita in general to normies.

t. actual black person

>>10654916
I could wear traditional african clothing rn and the only people who would care are some crazy sjws. What's your fucking problem?

>>10655154
Not an unpopular opinion but I've been seeing normies with holy lantern replicas. I'm pretty sure they're not even aware it's even a replica, it's insane

>>10655030
Everyone can like an aesthetic. Why do you feel the need to gatekeep it? Seems like you're the edgelord here

>>10654916
cultural appropriation doesn't exist. cry about it.

>>10655040
>>10655172
Pisslita and the weird girl who photoshops herself into some weird noodle human comes to mind. Also the numerous cringe videos and edits I see the nu old school crowd do.

>>10655159
You're right, but also there seems to be a lot more edgelords who are into old school then any other style. I really wonder why.

>>10655219
Yes and sorry I didn't explain well but I meant those who specifically try to be super edgy in old school. Nothing against people who wear old school in general.

>>10655281
I'm only for gatekeeping tryhard idiots with cringe behavior. The rest of them can wear old school or whatever they like.

Brand animal ears are just as costumey as kink/cosplay ears, and people just give them a pass because they're brando

>>10655154
bad take, these colorways are all really unique and cool. I wish ap would do another HL release with more colors

>>10651355
The Ordinary's Niacinemide + zinc serum. Literally turned my greasepot face into the sahara desert, and dry skin is so much easier to handle. But if your whole body is producing a lot of oils, yeah drugs like Accutane might be the solution.

far too much emphasis and trust in placed in Japanese brands like AP and Baby. If they habitually release ita shit then they should be retired as taste makers. A lot of rereleases are made of quality you'd expect of a high end replica maker. It's the cheaper fabric construction and overall design/workmanship that bothers me.

>>10655860
And by ita I mean - poorly constructed, employment of polyester, bad general taste etc. Japanese used to mean high quality, when companies stop being synonymous with it they should no longer be seen as authorities

>>10655864
Pretty sure the quality would improve if they didn't cater to the very demanding markets in china and the west and didn't push themselves to release something new multiple times a month for profit like AP does. If AP went back to releasing just a couple collections per YEAR like they used to years ago, all the effort would go into said collections. And this effort includes (for instance) high quality materials and intricate, unique design choices, which is what you'd expect from a luxury brand that sells fashion catering to a niche. It's not supposed to be mass-produced or even "fast fashion", but unfortunately that's what it's becoming.

>>10655881
did AP's prices decrease? I don't think so. AP has increased its production but that is no excuse for poorer quality materials, even if that could excuse lower quality design choices.

AP used to release little per year because less people were able to buy it not to optimize quality.

China can be demanding but it doesn't explain how lower quality got introduced into the mix. That's counterintuitive imho, AP just knows we'll buy whatever limp memories of former glory it puts out because we keep hoping it'll resemble the burando quality that one could reasonably expect

>>10655246
unrelated but those straps on that jsk look like those seat-belts on baby car seats

>>10655885

Same budget + Higher demand = Less money spent per individual piece

>>10655896
more revenue + higher demand = less quality per individual piece

Those thin nylon printed "socks" that most taobao brands and sometimes AP makes aren't socks, they're stockings (and I hate them).

>>10650725
This happened a few years ago but it's kind of related... I once made a public WTB asking for shopping service for some tea party event because there would be a dress sold at the event which I wanted. I thought it was no big deal but shortly after the post one of the organizers commented very angered asking me to put down my WTB immediately because it would be "unfair" to those who bought tickets to the event. They made me feel like a criminal so I put down that post and accepted so I would never own that dress. Just a few days later I saw one of their popular friends begging for a shopping service for same event/dress on FB. They weren't publicly shamed by the organizers and got town of replies of people willing to help out and yes... they got the dress in the end.

You have to ask yourself how some people are able to build their amazing wardrobes. it wouldn't be possible without their aggressive tactics and lack of shame of using other people for their profit.

>>10655885
>>10655896
>>10655915
AP and other lolita brands are falling prey to fast fashion bad habits. the way social media allows things to be marketed differently than direct advertising and gives brands access to a larger customer base. more customers means more people who will accept cutting corners. plus cn lolita is tacky as hell and these new money girls buy literally everything.

>>10656212
>one of the organizers commented very angered asking me to put down my WTB immediately because it would be "unfair" to those who bought tickets to the event.
This is stupid as fuck. You're being really transparent about what you want and it would be so easy for them to be nice about it. Letting the SS purchase after everyone else has is an easy middle ground.