/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Anyone know where an old yumekawaii definition link is? It lead to some Japanese website.

>>10669735
https://web.archive.org/web/20180813082200/https://tokyogirlsupdate.com/yume-kawaii-girls-20150855504.html

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>>10665914
Why do these fairy kei coords (sry if they aren't kinda new to this) look like methed up verssion of the fairy kei coords I used to see being posted in here?

>>10669791
you are just new, those images are pretty old

>>10669792
Fair enough, I miss the cute ones, these don"t look cute to me at all. :/

>>10669796
More OTT/cuter coordinates get posted in these threads every once in a while lol. I encourage you to lurk a little longer and you'll probably see some. I also prefer outfits with a little more flair.

>>10669821
Also, I doubt it matters very much but (just to be polite) I'd like to clarify I'm not the Anon you originally replied to.

>>10669823
I'm not a huge fan of most fairy kei coordinates personally. I love pastels a lot, I enjoy the silhouette, and I enjoy seeing people partake in it if it makes them happy, but I find a lot of the outfits I see to kind of bore me. Something about just how "neat" everything is, if that makes sense, maybe the lack of layering I see in a lot of pictures..
That's why I really like spank kei. Most coordinates I see vary greatly and a lot of the pieces I see used carry a lot of personality.

>>10669830
Sorry for blogposting. These threads tend to be more inactive so I thought it'd be neat to put some thoughts here, along with the pictures.

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>>10669832

Dumb question but I'm newer to these styles: What are the aesthetic differences between yumi kawaii and fairy kei?

>>10669836
fairy kei is a more specific fashion but yumekawaii is more of an aesthetic.

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>>10669836
I agree, something like this. I've always thought the term yumekawaii to be more like a catch-all term for these pastel fashions (like fairy, spank, etc) that overlap one another occasionally.
Anon, I'd recommend you look at the Fairy Kei Tips tumblr for more clarification. It's a good resource and I believe the author has even made a few posts on the "shape"/silhouette/"feel" of fairy kei specifically.

posting some coords. i need more yume/fairy kei in my life, it looks good for hotter days.

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>>10669830
>spank kei
Anon, that's...not a thing, that's just fairy kei which was invented to describe spank! in the first place.

>>10669836
As >>10669840 Yume is more of an aesthetic term, but in general the key difference is that Fairy Kei focuses on 80s vintage motifs while Yume includes a lot of modern weeb stuff.

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>>10669973
Huh. I swear I've seen distinctions between the two before. I imagine spank kei to incorporate more vibrant/vintage motifs. Meanwhile I thought fairy kei was supposed to be "floatier" or something.

>>10670363
Same, i definitely remember Spank kei being described as more 80s vintage

>>10669968
damn where are these tights from

>>10669973
They aren't the same. Tavuchi, the owner of Spank!, says they aren't the same. Just showed up around the same time and are inspired by similar things. There's some intersections but they are their own things.

>>10670380
It is different. I remember spank kei or pop kei literally as it's own thing. Fairy kei just got over taken by externals to the jfashion comms and with that things get diluted and lost.

We even see this in lolita. I'm noticing people are getting confused about sweet styles now.

>>10670381
putumayo!

>>10670386
i really feel like we should take a lot of these style definitions with a grain of salt. a lot of super niche styles like this are just designers trying to make their brand stand out in the crowd so they end up taking only slight differences abd really concentrating on them. spank! and fairy kei other similar fashions in japan all appeared around the same time, and utilize the same kind of 80s western cutesy aesthetic so it's reasonable to categorize everything together. also isn't pop kei a western term?

>>10670436
I'm not sure, considering most of my knowledge predates whatever it's turned into. It's at least from way back when and I'm more inclined to believe details about the fashion than anything current, now. It just seems to have become obscured. I remember the elements being different from fairy kei, as well, personally.

>>10670382
>Tavuchi, the owner of Spank!, says they aren't the same.
...she literally states on her blog her style is Fairy Kei, what drugs are you on.

>>10670382
>Just showed up around the same time and are inspired by similar things.
seems like you are not familiar with the term, but fairy kei was first coined by the magazine zipper to describe the style of the customers of spank, it's the same thing

>>10670363
>>10670380
>2021
>still thinking kei means style
newfags, of yourse spank's clothes are gonna be called spank kei in japanese because it means the clothes are from them

>>10670386
try searching either spank kei or pop kei in japanese, you won't find shit because those terms were never used

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>>10670441
both spank kei and pop kei were mistranslations of people describing their outfit theme, you won't find anything fashion related searching either in japanese (and pop kei will give you pop music)

>>10670441
>It's at least from way back when and I'm more inclined to believe details about the fashion than anything current, now.
You forget the part where most info "vack then" was half-assed Google translate, which is why a lot of terms we used back then were proved to not exist later on (natural kei, dolly kei, pop kei, larme kei, etc).

>>10670477
So which styles are/are not a thing in Japan then? Is "fairy kei" just a "type" instead of a style, or do they not call it fairy kei?

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>>10670465
the interview where she stated they weren't the same thing
>Can you talk some more about fairy-kei?

>Tavuchi: At first the fashion was called Spank! girls. Then just three months later fairy-kei was born. Some magazines said the pioneer of fairy-kei was Spank! but I don’t think so. For me Spank! girls and fairy-kei was very different. Fairy-kei includes a lot of different tastes. I think Zipper magazine coined “fairy-kei” and then a month later Cutie used the term and it spread from there.

>>10670620
As said, search the term in japanese and see what pops up, spank kei will result in a porn category.

>>10670626
and where is the term "spank kei" in this text? bingo, nowhere because it ain't a thing, and of course not all spank customers wear fairy kei but that's not like claiming spank has an own style named x that only they sell

>>10670629
Did I ever say anything about the term "spank kei"? No, I didn't. But spank!'s own owner says right here "Some magazines said the pioneer of fairy-kei was Spank! but I don’t think so. For me Spank! girls and fairy-kei was very different."
She said outright that the girls who wear Spank! and fairy-kei aren't the same.

>>10670630
The owner is not the end-all-be-all of whether her store has its own fashion or not. Ultimately that's up to the public. Just like the guy who invented "gifs" or whatever has little say on how the public ultimately ended up pronouncing it.

>>10670630
then maybe don't quote a post that was the response to some anon claiming spank kei is the name for the 80s pastel stuff and not fairy kei

Can anyone translate?

>>10670628
I love newfags coming into jfashion in the last 5 years and claiming to know about a term used 10 years ago.

You shits need to stop. It expired like gyaru. Just because YOU don't know much about it doesn't mean all us oldfags are hallucinating.

>>10670828
Not a newfag, I've been into jfashion since 2003 anfd the nerm never existed beyond people that thought "kei=style". There's also old kera snaps saying "inu kei" and other things along those lines, but that doesn't mean anything beyond "the theme is dogs".

>>10670828
>Just because YOU don't know much about it doesn't mean all us oldfags are hallucinating.
you "oldfags" were also the ones making up a shitton of terms nobody ever used in japan. mahou kei? imoutou kei? uchuu kei? all retarded pseudo-japanese from the livejournal days

>>10670907
let's not forget otome-kei and kodona

>>10670907
Are you kidding me? None of those are old. Those are all instagram terms, moron. Those popped up with instagram. Oldfags are pre-instagram and pre-lookbook.

>>10670912
Ah yes. Continue to shit on the people who caused this fashion to be so convenient for you. You might as well blame oldfags for creating lolita as well.

>>10670471
this is what i thought, but anon was citing a fashion article talking about spank! as a different style. i think the real thing is like gyaru, many fashion terms are created by magazines to advertise and aren't used so strictly by people into the fashion.
i also wanted to explain something. kei is being used as slang, not the literal definition and it does mean style. kei was used as an insult for people into alt fashion and it was reused to essentially mean style or vibe. the real definition of kei is system(as in solar system) so slang as style or vibe comes from the definition of a system encompasses everything that is distinct in some way. like -core on tumblr. or like scene and emo.
also unlike >>10670907 is saying, all of the terms themselves are perfectly fine, the issue is rhey don't understand what the word style means. the jfashion community uses the word style wrong. style in fashion means "personal style" or styling. it doesn't refer to a specific fashion or subculture. even in japanese kei doesn't mean fashion subculture. think how lolita FASHION has sweet STYLE. the style of sweet isn't a different fashion all together, it's just an easy way to define elements of the outfit. it's people who act like style means an entire fashion by itself that are incorrect.

>>10670912
Also on this note, I'm going to educate you a little bit on google archiving.

Once upon a time, websites went down and when they went down, so did all that information with it. There's literally tons and tons of records out there predating archival systems on the internet. So yes, searching around is going to prove pretty worthless. I don't know what was done about Japanese websites either, because website archiving was a process that started more into the late 2000's. There's a lot of missing blogs from a lot of popular lolitas from back then in Japan, as well. There's only a few that are intact. Realistically, there's a ton of things that were lost prior to everything being interconnected and/or on cloud solutions like they are today.

Realistically, newfags, you cannot rewrite history by coming in and searching terms from pre-2010's time. Sorry. But you just can't.

>>10670918
>Those are all instagram terms, moron.
they aren't, funny how you call everyone new yet you sound like a newfag not knowing those terms have been around like 2006, ig didn't even exist back then

>>10670920
>terms that don't exist and won't give any results in japanese, which is why you will never find new coords
>convient
pick one

>>10670921
>kei was used as an insult for people into alt fashion and it was reused to essentially mean style or vibe.
Lmao you sound retarded, it's just the kanji for system/type, next you might claim solar kei is an own style and not just the solar system whereas pink kei is literally just the color.

>>10670921
>. kei is being used as slang, not the literal definition and it does mean style. kei was used as an insult for people into alt fashion and it was reused to essentially mean style or vibe. the real definition of kei is system(as in solar system) so slang as style or vibe comes from the definition of a system encompasses everything that is distinct in some way. like -core on tumblr. or like scene and emo.
Kei never meant "system" in Japanese, it has always been "type" and used to categorize things, "solar system" is only an expection because it's of Chinese origin (reminder that that kanji are originally from China.).

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>>10670923
as jp translator the huge amount of misinformation in these posts baffles me, next you might as well claim nationalities are styles simply because they contain kei, it's not used like that at all and a pretty common kanji contained in adjectives

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>>10670923
>claiming kei was a slur
go back to twitter, newfag

>>10670923
>people asking for proof
>hurrdurr everything is deleted
Bad excuse when all the old ameba blogs etc are still up, none of that has ever been deleted so if those terms would truly exist you still would find traces of them.

>>10670923
馬鹿系だと言われた

>>10670946
>Bad excuse when all the old ameba blogs etc are still up

They absolutely are not. There's only a few that are still up, idiot. You coming in here acting like you know shit, while being new to the fashion is embarrassing.

>>10670967
See >>10670905 but keep calling people new in your denial, retard kei.

>>10670967
>They absolutely are not.
damn, spank's blog that has been up since forever must be everyone's imagination, yet no trace of spank kei to be found anywhere on it

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>>10670967
go larp somewhere else

>>10670980
>angry newfags always use this

can we post coords and discuss pastel styles in this pastel thread or is it just for terminally online retards trying to one-up eachother over increasingly pointless shit? just wondering

>>10671103
Where’s a good place to get these sort of leg warmers online?

spank/vintage inspired style came first. then it blended with other styles/brands and got more colorful/accessorized. then tumblr era westerners combined it with decora and it became extremely OTT, which then passed over back to japan. now the style is a blend of both the tumblr era and the spank era.

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>>10671125
They are called mokomoko leg warmers (モコモコレッグウォーマー), they are common in brands that make fuzzy roomwear like Gelato Pique.

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>>10671133
I appreciate it a lot anon, thank you!

>>10671136
this is so cute and nostalgic, i love vintage anime and i remember a while ago creamy mami was really popular motif in this kind of style! takes me back

If you wear an AP salopette in a fairy kei coord, is it acceptable to wear it without a petti?

>>10671247
Most salopettes don’t need a petti in the first place

>>10671251
Thanks. I don’t normally wear them but just got one and was curious.

>>10671247
most jp pees don't wear those with pettis anyways because bloomers are enough for the poof

What’s a good spot to get cute tights? Fancy surprise has run out of their cute print ones

>>10671643
Thighs don't seem to sell well, I only would know places selling socks.

>>10671666
I’ll take socks too! Just cute printed legwear in general that isn’t Etsy-tier

>>10671680
https://traumerei.shop/
https://zettairyoiki.theshop.jp/
https://www.maxicimam.com/?mode=grp&gid=1906201

>>10671643
Nile Perch always have loads in stock

>>10671693
>https://traumerei.shop/
NTA Bought three of the boleros on sale from them. Hella good deals.

>>10671136
Does anyone know where to find these white with black polka dot tights? I’ve been looking for ages but the polka dots are always huge making it look more costume like

I honestly don't know what style(s) these are but I've been looking through an old Tumblr with a lot of street snaps that I loooove so much

If you gulls want I can post some more of these although I'd also love to know what style this would be haha

>>10672019
looks like summer mori to me

>>10672019
Who is the chick in the bottom left? I see her a lot.

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>>10672066
bottom LEFT, not right

it's manapyon

>>10672019
just looks like dolly kei to me

>>10672128
nah

>>10672019
anyways I'll post the other ones too bc why not I hope it doesn't annoy

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>>10672144
>pastel thread
>this

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>>10672146
I was gonna say ok I'll stop but honestly I don't care <3

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>>10672150
Maybe make a street snaps thread, but these aren't applicable.

Btw that wasn't mori girl, that was cult party kei. I know you newfags are just now coming into fashion trends that are long dead, but please please don't start consolidating fashions into others again like you did with spank/pop kei into fairy kei. I'm not going to continue to have arguments with people who are 2 years fresh into even being aware of jfashion.

>>10672158
That was it, I hope that at least some of you liked it and for >>10672146 there actually were some pastels in the photos luv

>>10672150
Those thigh highs on top left are so cute. Why can american brands make stuff like that. All we get are tube socks or tacky stripper shit

>>10672160
>pastels
posts all beige/brown outfits
colorblind?

>>10672160
>luv
minors are not allowed on 4chan

>>10672159
I'm not claiming it to be any style like I said before; I don't know what style(s) these are

>>10672164
You know that beige is a pastel too right?

>>10672165
I'm literally in my 20s

>>10672159
>not mori
>literally says mori as outfit theme in most of the pictures
what

>>10672170
Then Mori girl is a pastel fashion based off that. No.

Beige is literally not what anyone is talking about when they mean pastels and there's no way you're that stupid.

>>10672160
thanks for shitting up the thread with an off-topic photo dump

At least they didn’t post pastel goth or lolita kek

>>10672187
I'd be fine if it was the traditional pastel goth from Japan, personally. But I doubt anyone is sourcing those photos.

Anyone have any favorite Western brands that they occasionally use for fairy kei?

I've actually found some decent things on Dollskill but you have to sift through a lot of tight skank clothing to get to it.

>>10672197
dollskill is a horrible brand though, I do buy from them sometimes still but I wouldnt flaunt it

>>10672200
I think the stuff which is their "brand" is usually shit tier, but they carry a lot of different brands on their website so the quality varies a lot.

>>10672221
Sorry I didn’t word it right, I meant that the owner and the way they handle things is bad, they steal designs, are racist and in general just not great
I don’t know if you would want to be associated with that

>>10672234
Wow, I had no idea. I've always used it out of convenience but I'll just buy directly from the individual brands instead. Just did that with a Selkie dress, actually.

>>10672197
I just look up carebear and retro mlp collabs, is the best bet to find nice stuff in the west.

>>10672247
>>Selkie dress
Gross.

>>10670940
>Kei never meant "system" in Japanese
Are you stupid?

>>10672263
Are you completely retarded or did you miss out the end part of the post? 太陽系 is of chinese origin, and there it means system, including computers.

>>10672268
+ it's why all the search results for solar system are *gasp* chinese sites.

>>10672268
https://ja.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%B3%BB

>>10672272
>https://ja.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%B3%BB
...literally says there it originates from chinese.

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>>10672268
You're aware all kanji comes from Chinese yes? Unless it's a compound kanji Japanese uses all the same definitions that Chinese does.

>>10672273
...it's kanji no shit.

>>10672274
>Unless it's a compound kanji Japanese uses all the same definitions that Chinese does
And outside of solar system, kei is never used in the sense of "system" but "type", hence nationalities.

>>10672276
>"solar system" is only an expection because it's of Chinese origin (reminder that that kanji are originally from China.).

This is my first post but fuck off. You guys don't understand slang. None of you are Japanese, I don't care how many kanji you know or how fast you can converse. None of you are native or linguists so sit down.

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>>10672279
that's not even what it says anywhere.

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>>10672279
Please point out where it says that, because it doesn't. The meaning of 系 as system and as type are not separate definitions. You are all getting confused about the Chinese.

>>10670471
No. It wasn't. Back in the early 2000's the brands made kei styles around their brand to make it popular. Japan has been a lot more secular than you think with how jfashion works. There's a reason why there was Angelic Pretty purists and BTSSB purists.

Seriously. If you weren't around during that period, stop thinking you know everything based off some wiki. Literally memes weren't even catalogued from 4chan entirely back in early 2000's. How the fuck do you think that you're going to find definitions for every single thing in an obscured from the internet time period for JAPAN.

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>>10672288
>kanji
>not chinese
pick one, literally says it's mandarin

>>10672289
>kei styles
Not sure if larper or newfag.

>>10672289
>How the fuck do you think that you're going to find definitions for every single thing in an obscured from the internet time period for JAPAN.
Forgot that GLB, Kera, Fruits, and the like never existed, gotcha.

>>10672290
no, KANJI is the japanese version. no one is talking about chinese.

>>10672293
系 is chinese

>>10672291
Shut up newfag. This is literally your only defense against being wrecked by actual history of jfashion. You haven't been around long enough to be able to talk in the first place, so shut the fuck up about things you don't know shit about.

>>10672293
...and the definition of 系 as "system" is in the mandarin section.

>>10672294
Sis, you are misinterpreting the article.

>>10672295
Says the person who's only defense is calling everyone newfag and showing no proof, you probably think the japanese word for retard is a style too because it's ~kei style~

>>10672296
>>10672294
please guys stop.

>>10672302
そっち系

>>10672300
Ah yes, because we all majored in Japanese linguistics and wasted $$$. Good defense, yourself. Literally can't do anything but pick at straws for not having knowledge in literally a dead fashion.

Good job. Go talk about gyaru on TikTok some more.

just so you guys know the english word japanese are taught 系 means in engish is system, but the definition of system is wrong. but it really means collective and for fashion it is meant to mean closer to cult. so like if you say spank kei you mean you are in the brand's cult essentially.

Where can I buy good sneaker options for fairy kei? I typically just wear my lolita shoes but want to switch it up.

>>10672314
This leans into why each brand created their own -kei. I really don't care about what you autists are arguing about but if you people need to understand "Cult Party Kei"

https://j-fashion.fandom.com/wiki/Cult_Party_Kei

>In 2006, the vintage fashion store CULT PARTY opened in the Koenji neighborhood, which was known for its underground culture and second-hand stores.[5] In 2010, the store moved to Shibuya and was rebranded as the Virgin Mary.[6] Although the name of the store changed, the staff continued to refer to the Virgin Mary's aesthetic as "Cult Party Kei".[7]

Look, as I said, if you weren't there or around during when these fashions were alive then you can't really speculate about it's existence. It's gone. Over. Just like Gyaru is. Japan doesn't wear it.

It's like people wearing emo in the US, now. You're just being nostalgic over a time period, but if you don't HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION then why even speculate?

>>10672321
Also I don't owe any of you newfags answers when you demand them and try to fight for something with little knowledge. It's embarrassing for people who have been around.

You're not going to bring the style back, so why are you even fighting?

>>10672321
>This leans into why each brand created their own -kei.
But exactly that is why it doesn't mean fashion, it just means an outfit is centered around a brand and not that it's an own distinct thing, Angelic Pretty Kei won't stop being Lolita.

>>10672324
>>Angelic Pretty kei
That term was never used. Just because lolita is one style that wasn't named based off of a brand, doesn't mean there weren't styles based off brands. I really, seriously, do not care what you guys are arguing about regarding the kanji. Cult party had other brands, besides just Cult party brand. They just DEFINED a style.

Kei has meant style in the west. It's English. Do you understand English? Well, that's what it has been for 15+ years. You're not going to redefine it.

>>10672324
>it just means an outfit is centered around a brand

ah yes, an intentionally styled outfit centered around a clothing brand has nothing to do with fashion

>>10672327
Also, if you don't get what I mean by this here.

Spank Kei was real. It's dead, but it was real and got obliterated by noobs in Fairy Kei. So thanks guys.

>>10672327
>That term was never used.
In Japanese it is.
>Kei has meant style in the west. It's English. Do you understand English? Well, that's what it has been for 15+ years. You're not going to redefine it.
You sound like the retard who made Party Kei a thing because ~it means style in english~, jfashion does not work like that and you can't just make up terms as you please.

>>10672329
first you claim keis just refer to the brands, now you say spank kei is dead despite the brand being alive and doing well, make up your mind

>>10672327
>the incorrect butchered use of a japanese term makes it legit
what a weeb

>>10672327
>Cult party had other brands, besides just Cult party brand.
It had not, the owner even said that they use the term Cult Party Kei for outfits from that store because their fans didn't want to get lumped in with other brands.

>>10672335
Literally whenever you look at snaps the term is obviously used on things that cult party definitely didn't carry. I understand you guys are trying to understand dead fashions, but you're not going to change the past.

>>10672337
anon, you don't seem to get it. the term cult party kei originally referred to the brand itself but came to mean the fashion or define the theme of an outfit that is a similar style.

western jfash and actual jfash are different because westerners butchered the meanings of fashion definitions. coupled with the fact that japanese uses english terms wrong, it really couldn't be helped. like a lot of you don't know that hime-kei wasn't considered gyaru or that gothic lolita was actually part of gothic fashion in 2000s but not actually lolita at that point.

POST


PASTEL

COORDS
FFS

>>10672248
MLP has been forever ruined for me by bronies, even the retro stuff. I still think it looks cute but can't bring myself to wear it.

>>10672251
You can pry my gauzy dreamy dresses from my cold dead hands, anon.

That said, no I wouldn't wear it as jfash

I love Tenten's customer snaps, still so many pastel peeps.

>>10674119
If he removed that rattle I would like this a little more.

>>10674249
Then she would barely have on any accessories. The necklace works.

>>10674252
Then something different then? Reminds me of ageplay.

>>10674456
that's a nile perch necklace, baby motifs have always been their main thing beyond many of their clothes being made from baby clothing fabric

>>10674475
Still reminds me of ageplay and probably gives the wrong idea to others. That rattle is the only thing that irks me.

>>10674502
>>10674456
Just fucking leave you dumb newfag. No one cares what you think if you’re this clueless

>>10674518
Why upset over someone not liking a rattle?

>>10674546
its more so that there is an influx of newbs into jfashion calling baby motifs ageplay when its never been and having to explain that its not is so annoying

>>10674546
maybe you should stop jumping to the conclusion that all childish motifs in japanese fashion automatically equal a sex/kink thing
girls can just think cute things are cute, pervert

>>10674546
Because why the fuck would you assume a women is wearing a rattle because she thinks babies are sexy, instead of wearing a rattle because she thinks babies are cute and innocent?

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>>10674550
Sorry but I'll never unsee baby items used by adults as ageplay or something rappers do

>>10674576
Rappers? I know ravers do because of the teeth grinding but why would rappers?

If you “can never unsee” it then it’s probably because you barely look at fairy kei fashion. Context is important

>>10674576
if you can’t unsee it as ageplay then you should probably stop looking at ageplay

>>10674579
No idea. It was something trendy they do

>>10672234
>I don’t know if you would want to be associated with that

It’s very silly to make this point while using 4chan of all places.

>>10672234
Who fucking cares. All major corporations have shitty owners. You wokefags are so annoying

>>10672292
>Forgot that GLB, Kera, Fruits, and the like never existed, gotcha.


GLB and KERA were first and foremost advertisement catalogs. Their fashion information isn’t completely accurate. They’d label colorful stuff as “pop” and lolita stuff as “lovely”. doesn’t mean “lovely Kei” is a style

Anyone have any good makeup inspo?

>>10674697
All of those magazines labeled the outfit descriptions based on the info the wearers provided, not their fault if westerners use google translate and misunderstand outfit themes as own distinct fashions because they got the kei suffix in it.

>>10674712
Bro. They walked up and took a photo and asked for a description. Why would they be identifying the style they are wearing in the outfit listing? It's not as if they are being interviewed.

-Kei were developed primarily by brands trying to get a boost for their brand as a 'style' that was developed around wearer or fashion designers. If you really think long and hard about it, it makes sense considering it's a fashion design that is creating a style.

Also what >>10674697 said is true. They were all meant to advertise pieces coming out. Fruits is more outfit snaps than GLB and KERA is. I'd know, considering I read these as they were being produced since 2006. lmfao.

>>10674753
<Bro. They walked up and took a photo and asked for a description. Why would they be identifying the style they are wearing in the outfit listing? It's not as if they are being interviewed.
That's literally what my post is about, retard. Learn proper english skills or gtfo.

>>10674753
>Bro. They walked up and took a photo and asked for a description. Why would they be identifying the style they are wearing in the outfit listing? It's not as if they are being interviewed.
That's literally what my post is about, retard. Learn proper english skills or gtfo.

>>10674703
pacifier ruins it

>>10675135
If you know nothing about the fashion, stop trying to give your uneducated opinion

>>10674703
https://makey.asia/search.php?q=%E3%82%86%E3%82%81%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8F%E3%81%84%E3%81%84

>>10674753
Kei is slang used by young folk. It means 'system' so it didn't just refer to an item or outfit having a certain 'look'. It's actually the style that creates a fashion.

The right yumekawaii (pastel) items put together systematically create a floaty, fairy-like look (fairy-kei!) However, yumekawaii fashion items alone are not part of a system by themselves, and could equally fit in with the newer 'uchuu-kei'. (Pastel items worn together systematically for a space-themed look if the motifs are right!)

There's also the breaking point fashion becomes a subculture in which it is no longer any type of 'kei' like lolita.

Another example of the way using things systematically creates 'fairy-kei'.

Pastel-styled items put together systematically create 'fairy-kei'. The English equivalent would be kids going up to someone & saying, "Hey, what you're wearing reminds me of a fairy."

It's just convenient the Japanese language can fit that entire sentence's meaning into two words.

Another example how pastel fashion design, put together differently can create a space-like futuristic look hence the use of 'uchuu-kei' beginning to appear. The dread falls and material of pants make it way different in feel then fairy-kei even though many of the items would technically match the other.

That's what >>10674712 is trying to explain to you, >>10674753.

Another example how pastel fashion design put together differently can create a space-like futuristic look hence the use of 'uchuu-kei' beginning to appear. The dread falls and material of pants make it way different in feel from fairy-kei even though many of the items would technically match the other.

That's what >>10674712 is trying to explain to you, >>10674753.

Well, SPANK is on topic, so another example using completely different 'fashion design' with stiff holographic fabrics and bold colors with a much less casual vibe in a systematic way to create 'uchuu-kei'.

It's more an aesthetic then a 'style'. There's not enough to constitute a style. That's why it's fashion design creating a style instead of the other way around.

>>10675428
So fairy-kei isn’t a style, but just a theme? What is the style?

>>10675426
Based on what you’re saying, “theme” would be a better translation. “Fairy-themed”, “Space-themed”.

>>10675426
Where can i gets this bag or one like it?

>>10675430
Are you dumb, learn to read?

>>10675428
I love that you're trying to educate someone that is well aware that uchuu-kei didn't come out of Japan.

But nice try, tho.

>>10675423
moco is so cute

>>10675494
still sad she doesn't dress like that anymore (pic related)

uchuu-kei was the equivalent of the western community seeing one or two japanese people dressed up like winnie the pooh characters and concluding that "winnie-kei" was the next hot thing

>>10675579
I remember that. I think I remember hoping uchuu-kei would be more of a thing, but it absolutely isn't in Japan. That's why nothing came out around it and it's a word that was termed with very little background and especially like no exclusive branding or even snaps that look like they reference it.

>>10675489
She literally doesn’t say what the style is. Just keeps saying fairy kei isn’t a style.

>>10675579
>>10675580
wasn't even seeing jp people, tumblr user serepuff coined it to describe her own style back when everyone made milky planet knockoffs in fairy kei

>>10675604
>Just keeps saying fairy kei isn’t a style.
Nobody said that?

>>10675604
I think someone is taking Japanese translations in this thread too literal. So much so it actually looks like they don't know practical Japanese or have never used/translated things.

A Japanese word contains many meanings. Is it a Chinese lolita in here sperging about knowing Chinese and the cross over or something? Seriously.

-Kei has always been style. It's not going to change in 2021.

>>10675606
There was like one or two Japanese snaps total and I think the girl you're talking about is the one who ran with it afterwards, it just was never a style in Japan.

>>10675604
anon, the person only explained how the kanji is used, nobody said anything about fairy kei not existing, but not everything "kei" is a fashion because the kanji doesn't work like that because it's contextual, like how what you find searching フェアリー系男子 has nothing to do with fairy kei as fashion because it's a stereotype that *also* happens to include "fairy-type" (which are also pokemon btw, フェアリー系ポケモン)

>>10675607
Keeps saying it means system because Google translate told them that.

>>10675611
>-Kei has always been style.
dumbest thing I have in this read so far, nationalities are styles according to you, so are spices in food

>>10675617
...you know that's more than one anon, right?

>>10675611
>says words have multiple meanings
>"but kei means only style!!!"
Ah yes, 草食系 the top tier fashion about wearing meat.

>says words have multiple meanings
>"but kei means only style!!!"
Ah yes, 草食系 the top tier fashion about wearing plants.

>>10675620
The one writing a whole essay about it in four back to back posts? No, it’s just someone using Google translate

>>10675618
They obviously meant in the context of talking about fashion, retard

>>10675629
That person only explained the proper use of the kanji, it's not the same person as the previous anon who keeps insisting kei literally means system >>10672263

>>10675630
but it doesn't, you sound the same kind of retarded as people who think pink kei is a style and doesn't just refer to the color being pink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLdS3ZWON8E
Also contains the thing about uchuu kei being used by a girl for her own outfits.

>>10675494
I don't want to be mean, but she looks like a grandma that is lost and can't find her way home

>>10675635
You literally just can't read English on an English board. Other anon caught that it was context of the conversation. Dunno what's wrong with your retarded incapable to read-ass.

>>10675606
>wasnt even seeing jp people
says right there in the replies that's what happened: "was inspired by fairy kei/pop kei/harajuku street fashion mixed with space age stuff"
they saw the single ishoku hada photoshoot and the kawaii international girl with the puffy space nasa coat and tried to create an entire kei from it

>>10675659
>2008
>the single ishoku hada
mate

>>10675659
newfag, neither ishoku hada nor kawaii international were a thing back then

>>10675659
>ishoku hada
>2008
And no, it doesn't.

>>10675666
>>10675668
i didn't mean literally those two images. i referenced them because they're some of the most popular images that get posted or referenced when people post about "uchuu-kei"
im relating it to my analogy >>10675579 that this tumblr user saw a couple of streetsnaps and made a kei from what was just some people's single outfit theme

>>10675672
but it wasn't based on streensnaps at all, the girl just started posting her outfits introduced as her own style on blogger+tumblr and that was it, same with mahou kei and imouto kei

>>10675455
It literally says Angelic Pretty on it, anon.

>>10675695
My bad, couldn't see it on mobile.

>>10675429
Skirt looks like a plastic bag or raincoat.

>>10675650
You're not wrong

>>10676114
>scene hair
>printed shirts with shitty etsy art
>maximalist pastel vomit with no attempt to coord colors/textures nicely together
>ugly beads and etsy accessories, nothing fluffy and cute

This photo is honestly everything I hate about the majority of Western fairy kei.

>>10676161
you haven't seen the average jp fairy kei wearer then, only difference is they ain't white

Also
>calls kokokim and carebears brand shirts "etsy"
newfag

>>10676161
Did you just seriously call the Chocomint staple bracletets etsy? Wow, just wow.

>>10676161
larper detected, can't even recognise brand items

>>10676181
I don't see scene hair and a decora-tier vomit of shit in that pic, try again. Don't get me wrong, Japs can have that ugly garbage too, but it seems almost ubiquitous among Westerners.

>>10676181
>thinking I specifically meant those 2 shirts
Yeah I was definitely being completely literal and not generally shitting on them, autist-chan.

>>10676193
>shitting on pic
>doesn't even recognise everyone wearing brand
>gets defensive when called out
larper confirmed

>>10676196
Having a few brand pieces doesn't make everything in the outfit suddenly look good, retard. Otherwise every ita would get a free pass.

Scene hair is faggy and ugly and always will be.

>>10676198
the yellow fever is strong in here considering jp girls wearing the same shit when not even worse all the time

>>10676161
>printed shirts with shitty etsy art

Care Bears and the defunct brand banana fish is Etsy art? Lol

>>10676201
>ignoring the other clothing

>>10676200
Yeah that also looks like shit. Japanese itas exist too. But if you could read, you'd realize I said it's far more ubiquitous for Western fairy kei compared to jp girls. Westerners don't know the meaning of cute or simplicity. Just drown in mismatched garbage and scene hair almost every fucking time.

>>10676205
One other shirt is printed and nothing about it looks like Etsy, that photo is from the very start of the western fairy kei trend, there weren’t many, if any, Etsy brands selling printed shirts back then a la kawaii goods now. The other shirts are just plain pastel tops.

>>10676207
>scene hair

Swoopy bangs =\= scene hair

>>10676207
>Just drown in mismatched garbage and scene hair almost every fucking time.
So are most jp snaps, only difference everyone has straight instead of scene bangs.

>>10676210
That was literally around the time of the scene trend and is obviously scene hair. Are you blind?

>>10676213
Uh huh. Just like >>10665910
>>10669821
>>10669823
>>10669830
>>10669831
>>10669834
>>10669966
>>10669969
>>10669971
I could go on. More than half the jp snaps in this thread are not.

>>10676214
half of those aren't even fairy kei, luark moar

>>10676214
At least 3 of the pics you quoted are from the western comm, just saying.

>>10676223
if she just ironed this top, it would look way cuter

Anyone know how PeachandParfait stuff is?

>>10676214
>That was literally around the time of the scene trend and is obviously scene hair. Are you blind?

Scene style doesn’t have a monopoly on scene hair, which was a dying trend by 2010/2011. Swoopy/feathered hair and bangs was common in non lolita and gyaru jfashion.

>>10676240
I love her, she's so cute. I also like how she's average/normal weight and doesn't photoshop herself skeletal like most asians do. Cute and healthy.

>>10676244
She actually is quite thin but I notice many korean girls have naturally round/chubby faces

>>10676244
everything I've been dumping since >>10676215 is from a personal photo collection, I'm corrently sorting out all pastel ones (the full one is at https://tomoike2525.tumblr.com/))

>>10676247
thin in a normal/average way, though. there is still meat on her arms and thighs and her waist looks normal

>>10676265
Actual goals

>>10676201
God I miss Banana Fish. When I was younger and used to lurk on this board that's all I wanted. A shirt from banana fish. My fixation on that brand when I was a kid was immense.

>>10676240
all hail roong

This is a good dump.

>>10676286
Is that a cellphone case or a wallet? I want that case.

Newfag to fairy kei and was just wondering which of the snaps in this thread would NOT be considered fairy kei? It’s hard for me to get a kind of general understanding of the style since it seems so varied. Just worried about putting together a pastel outfit and calling it fairy kei only to be wrong

>>10676526
Use the Fairy tips tumblr anon. just google fairy kei tips tumblr FAQ. That should help you get a better general idea

>>10676414
it's by a brand called QissQill but it's not listed on the shop's website anymore

Magical is celebrating its 10th anniversary and LF got a big restock.