/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10669912
This dress looks more and more horrible every time I see it

>>10669917
I can't speak for the lavender specifically, but the dress is beautiful in person

>>10669921
It looks really scratchy and stiff to me

>>10669925
Nah I have shanghai doll and it's looks like a similar fabric to the mesh parts. Not scratchy at all.
I really hope we get an MTO of this OP one day, the bunny embroidery is too cute.

>>10669912
Nothing exciting is getting released at Nagoya. They can keep their ugly shite. My wallet is safe.

lmaooooooooo I can't believe the old thread maxxed out because people were sperging over color theory

>>10669926
Same, I don't wear this style at all but the mint x pink and the bunnies are so, so cute.

>>10669912
I like this dress in theory and will probably enjoy seeing it on other lolitas, but I hope/wish this has a Haori jacket that I could wear with other j-fashions.

Has anyone made a comparative between the older Sugary Carnival releases and the new ones ? As people in Japan are starting to get it.

>>10669912
>>10669989
I have this OP in mint x pink but have yet to wear it. Love the bunnies and sakura motifs and the flower trim all over. Only down side is the big chest bow isn’t secure with the pin back and kinda makes the front drag. I’ll have to stitch it into the dress to make it sit right.

>>10669912
They could've done a red x white colorway like those retro style kimonos that are trendy now instead of whatever this purple is...

>>10670037
There was a red x pink which I think looked a little intense.

>>10670035
I own the original 2009 op and i ordered the jsk. Will be posting comparison photos if anyone is interested. I ordered thru USA though so it might be awhile. Also wanted to note my 2009 op is NOT faded or damaged in any way (for better comparison of colors and such) i gor lucky that the seller is also the og owner

>>10669912
This looks like a cheap dress up costume for a kindergartner

>>10670035
New one doesn't have a built in petti but that's about it.

>>10670106
excited for this anon, i hope you do!

>>10670124
I actually saw this dress and stock pictures don't do it any justice, the thing is beautiful in person

A White top and Red bottom colourway would have been so awesome D;

>>10670173
I'll give AP the benefit of the doubt that it's a great dress with a terrible stock photo because you're not the only person in the thread who's said that

Soo, will we get a new Halloween release this month?

>>10670191
No. At most they’ll rerelease something.

New releases are up

>>10670350
Look at all this trash

>>10669912
>>10670048
Is this not just a hanbok? Are they chasing the Korean market now?

>>10670354
Tell me you don't know anything about traditional Japanese clothing without telling me you don't know anything about traditional Japanese clothing. Which like it's fine if you don't but then shut up, you're embarrassing yourself

>>10670354
It isn’t. If you look at the details, it’s obviously a heavily stylized wa OP.

>>10670355
>don't know anything about traditional Japanese clothing
Or Korean.

>>10670353
The velvet accessories are all right but they're really random.

>>10670350
Whats with the sad little apron
What’s with the 2010 larme era v-shoulders
Why have they done this

>>10670368
>2010 larme era
>2010
>larme era

Stop

>>10670368
Anon, larme is nowhere near that old.

>>10670368
I love when anons try to sound old and experienced but just end up telling us how new and stupid they are

>>10670368
Retard

I get what they were going for and I want to like it, but the apron shape is too jarring

>>10670377
Ugly

>>10670378
I agree. Like I said I want to like it, but I don't at all

AP should just give up on releasing new shit and rerelease prints at this point lol

Every release is worse than the last.

>>10670395
Interestingly enough they have done more surprise rereleases this year, Cream Cookie Collection and Honey Cake. It's not necessarily what everyone wants but they are playing around with mixing in rereleases which might be a good sign.

>>10670377
It would be so cute without the apron...

>>10670350
>>10670377
Wow Flower Basket failed hard.
The Paris site still has 3 of each colorway in stock (in the skirt and jsk), which makes me think no one has bought any of them.

AP really just flushed everything down the drain. I wonder if they are even trying anymore. This year and last had some hints that maybe we'd take an actual turn back into OTT sweet, but I guess that's over now. How can AP honestly put out such dud releases when there's such a stark difference between instant sell outs and items rotting in the store?

>>10670355
Sorry it looks similar the garment I confused it for and I'm not an expert on historical Japanese fashion nor did I claim to be? Calm down jesus.

Why is this together like 500€ wtf

>>10670539
I hope they’ll take note that their current shit sucks….

>>10670544
>similar
Maybe to a blind person

AP USA got a bunch of Happy Garland rings for some reason.

>>10670584
The released Moonlight Castle and some accessories from Happy Garland if you saw their email. I finally got my Lyrical Bunny Face clip

>>10670584
thanks anon, got some of the rings I was hoping for!

>>10670377
I actually love this release, it reminds me of Petit Bouquet but sweeter/more versatile. I’m honestly surprised it didn’t sell better on the jp market. If it ends up on sale I’ll be grabbing the jsk for sure

>>10670395
agreed. imagine how much more money they would make if they did constant mtos, it's a win for everyone

>>10670539
i guess the real question is, does china like all this stuff that we don't? they are the market that counts most of course

>>10670989
It’s been discussed over and over why this is a bad idea.

>>10670991
It would seem Chinese lolitas don't like it either. I would think the releases would sell out if they did?

It must be some AP designer trying to live out some "my life's work" fantasy and steering AP in the wrong direction. It's like their hoping we'll get Stockholm syndrome.

>>10670539
>anymore. This year and last had some hints that maybe we'd take an actual turn back into OTT sweet, but I guess that's over now.

AP has never been “all OTT all the time”, even back in the day. Don’t freak out because of one mediocre release. Back in the day, solids and non-prints rarely sold out right away. This is normal.

>>10670994
i must have missed it then? i don't see why it would be, other than some people getting bored without new designs

>>10671138
Use common sense then numbskull

Just got the AP USA address confirmation email. Looks like the US is on track to get their dresses on time too.

>>10671138
Retard.

>>10670544
if you didn't want to sound uneducated you should have asked what the design was based on. your assumption made you sound stupid.

>>10671151
>>10671352
wow helpful. common sense is that they'd make a fuckton of money, period.

>>10671339
Should I be worried if I didn't get this still...?

Little House and Fantasic Balloons are getting rereleases for Silver Week. The online shop will be taking reservations.

This does not appear to be a true MTO as stock will be limited to what they have already ordered from the factory.

>>10671394
Check your spam

>>10671392
mtos cost more to produce, idiot

>>10671392
Nobody is going to spoon feed you over this because it’s been discussed again and again.

>>10671479
I'm a bit bummed that they decided to go with the fabric from the first release. I wanted to get the clips, but they won't match the red OP I own.

>>10671479
The lace on this picture looks like what we've seen on Dramatic Heart. I guess this is a hint that AP's going to release it. Too bad, I was hoping for Charles.

>>10671495
Why do they cost more? I would expect that making a set number of pre-paid dresses would cost less than just wasting money on a ton of dresses that may or may not all sell

>>10671530
I'm 90% sure that the red gingham on Dreaming Fantasic Balloon is the same as the second release of Little House, so you might consider grabbing a headband from the Balloon series instead.

>>10671373
>Is this not just a hanbok?
Do y'all read or do you just like to feel superior to people for making offhanded comments on an Indonesian basket weaving forum?

That balloon release lmfao

>>10671479
AP please rerelease Milky-Chan, Milky Planet, or pretty much anything that actually deserves it.

>>10671495
considering the mtos are usually produced in 3rd world countries like myanmar, i highly doubt that

how likely do you think it is that AP will do a halloween release?

>>10672664
Only if they release yet another lace monster.

Yall getting HL in bajablast colorway

>>10672664
they already did dude

It's weird how I still stay up refreshing the AP homepage Wednesday nights (and sometimes Thursday if it isn't updated Wednesday) just waiting to see what the releases are even though I know I won't like them. I guess this is what an addition feels like.

It's weird how I still stay up refreshing the AP homepage Wednesday nights (and sometimes Thursday if it isn't updated Wednesday) just waiting to see what the releases are even though I know I won't like them. I guess this is what an addiction feels like.

>>10672891
Same, anon. It's just a ritual at this point.

>>10672896
Mint Kismet posted pictures of this week's releases on Facebook, can't find them elsewhere though.

>>10671658
im with you on this one. i have both prints but not in preferred colourways unfortunately. here’s hoping.

>>10672908
I saw these on the new release page this morning but now the link comes up with this

>>10672910
Lyrical Bunny looks very polite considering she has stolen a whole webpage.

>>10672908
Could it be that she was the one leaking new release info here on cgl?

Here's the rest while we all wait for the website to update.

>>10672908
Cute enough, but why just one color

>>10672914
No, it was on the site earlier and now has been taken down, presumably to update something or correct any mistakes in the text or something.

>>10672922
Such a cute cut but the colourways are so weird imo.

>>10672951
Agreed. I like unusual colorways but it seems like a bad choice to not have at least one 'normal' color option.

>>10672920
>>10672922
somehow this feels vaguely German to me

>>10672920
>>10672922
Ugh so ugly. Wtf is going on with you Ap?

>>10672951
>>10673056

>red isn’t a normal colorway

>>10672951
These are standard colourways for gingham releases...

>>10672914
Mint Kissass would never work a day in her life because she's too ugu sickly and frail.

>>10672908
It annoys me to no end that there isn't a tiny pink rhinestone in this hole.

>>10672910
Either someone accidentally made the page go live, or maybe there's actually more colors of the Lyrical Bunny jewelry? It's weird she isn't yellow. I'm already sweating that this jewelry will be a huge bloodbath. It's a throwback to the Toy Fantasy jewelry. What will scalped listing be? 20k yen? I don't care. I just want it. Ugh.

>>10673164
It looks like a gem is there anon

>>10673167
Ayrt, I don't think so? It just looks like a bubble/shadow? I looked at all the stock photos before AP nerfed the link, and there wasn't any type of reflection/shine that glass would have.

>>10673169
You don’t need to put “ayrt” for posts like this. Retards have been overusing that and nayrt since like 2017

>>10673173
Who cares. Calm down salt chan.

>>10673176
>who cares

People who have seen newfags like you shit up the board for half a decade

>>10673178
The original post you replied to was on topic, anon. You're the one shitting up the AP thread with your policing of people's posts. Talk about the new release or fuck off, please.

On topic discussion:
I hate how AP drops random good items in the middle of a terrible release. It guarantees everyone will be going for the exact same item.

>>10673178
The only person shitting things up is you nonnie. I'm not even the ayrt kek. What is with salty newfags trying to lie about how long they've posted here? Integrate or fuck off.

>>10673179
It wouldn't matter when the good items were released, they'd still be bought up quickly.

AP finally made the URL live again and it's still just one color of Lyrical necklace. RIP all of us. I don't think anything changed.

AP really said "hey the release details were ready a whole 24 hours ago, but we're going to hold back and make you choke with ~anticipation~ instead!"

>>10672922
>>10672920
>>10672918
>>10672917
I feel like I'm being punished or something. Why you do this AP? I just want to throw my money at you!

Paris release went a lot smoother than I thought. For once they put the general release up before 6:30 PM. By the time I was done checking out with the necklace and ring, there were 8 necklaces left and 12 ring left, so I wonder what the original totals were? Maybe 20 for each?

I got the happy garland lyrical bunny necklace and ring at AP Paris general release. I hope it looks better in person than stock photos. Was way easier to get than the face clips for some reason.

>>10673337
I think maybe it was easier to get because there was just one colorway. That means more people can add it too their cart at once than with quantity being split between different colorways.

I'm not super sure though. Maybe people were disappointed by the pink/lavender/mint coloring? I know I personally thought it'd be cuter with a yellow/pink/sax design.

>>10673341
Yeah I also would've preferred yellow! But I thought I'd might as well get it anyway since AP plastic of their characters tend to get scalped secondhand. I want a chance to see it in person before possibly regretting not trying to get at retail. I do think they also have more in stock than usual.

>>10673346
Even if there's more stock, I can see this release going for $200 secondhand. Paris releases are usually the easiest release to buy from, so tonight on the JP site it'll probably instantly be gone. It has heavy Toy Fantasy vibes and we all know that jewelry is some of the most expensive secondhand.

>>10673346
Even if there's more stock, I can see this release going for $200 secondhand. Paris releases are usually the easiest release to buy from, so tonight on the JP site it'll probably instantly be gone. It has heavy Toy Fantasy vibes and we all know that jewelry is some of the most expensive secondhand.

Sorry for repost. I'm an idiot and clicked on the wrong picture.

>>10673350
I also have this necklace and never letting it go. And a mint bashful bear sitting one. I went overboard last year with the witch jewelry series.... I just love these two mascots so much.

>>10673358
We're the same person lol. I have the same mint necklace and all the Toy Fantasy jewelry (giraffee, blowing bubbles, etc, plus rings). They're worth their weight in gold to me, and I idolized them even before the 2020 sweet boom.

>>10673364
Lol that's awesome. I don't have the other toy fantasy animals but they are super cute and rare now. I have the 2011 bunny and bear pochettes, face pouches, and more recent like six ear headbands and even the stupid face masks. I started lolita in 2010 so that sweet look never left me lol.

I went into the ap store and just got this dress. Just curious was it an unpopular release or something? it seems to be 100% cotton which i thought ap was staying away from

>>10673372
Retard. Ask the stupid questions thread or read threads properly.

>>10673375
Sorry I’m such a newfag uwu that i expected the ‘angelic pretty general’ threads to be about ap content

So in general I like the chain that acts as the string for the balloon, but I can't help but feel like it's going to look dumb when worn. It'll just hang loosely, straight downwards. Pic related.

>>10673387
That makes it look even more like a balloon than the stock photo btw

>>10673378
It is about AP content but that was a stupid question and it belongs in the stupid questions thread. This thread is for current/upcoming releases and complaining about APs design choices mostly.

>>10673372
Western apfags prefer more OTT sweet prints so classic/classic-sweet ones like this fall under the radar, cotton or not. That said, it’s a gaudy print, the details on the bodice don’t blend well, and the skirt is unbalanced

>>10673372
Sorry you have shit taste

>>10672908
hate the way the necklace is done. but that ring is so cute

I know this is kind of an older release at this point but just thought to let people know the store exclusive release of Little Bunny Strawberry is not grey-blue at all. It's pretty true sax, only slightly more cool tone than their usual blouse sax.

>>10673483
Sax and red look like shit together

>>10673483
It's so pretty! Wish I could've gotten it.

>>10673483
Worst colorway desu. It would have been really cute in mint.

>>10672917
Fuck, I love this, the rest I've seen til now is meh 4 me.

>>10673484
>>10673490
I know we like to be salty bitches here but this still feels uncalled for

>>10673350
Yep. Gone from AP JP in less than a minute.

>>10673543
>uncalled for
>for expressing a dislike for a color

Retard

>>10673400
I got the necklace and it's much cuter in person. I wasn't sold on the derpy balloon string at first but it's not that bad.

>>10673591
God it must be nice to get to go to the store for releases

I forgot about the Paris release, RIP me. Didn’t bother with jp because I didn’t want to set an alarm for 4am and end up both disappointed and sleep deprived

>>10673483
Cuuute! Hope I can get the sax OP one day.

>>10673375
>>10673391
Oh fuck off

>>10672917
I'd like this if it wasn't so fucking boxy and the colors didn't look so unbalanced

My Paris Sugary Carnival order changed to en cours de préparation, it’s happening!

>>10673400
Sorry anon, I was wrong about the balloon string. I tried it on and the way the chain sits, it flops over onto the bunny and looks funky. It's much too long. The rest of the necklace is cute fwiw.

>>10673654
the entire execution of the necklace is bad.

>>10673654
You can just shorten it.

This looks so cute

>>10673678

>>10673679

>>10673678
>>10673679
>>10673680
Context?

>>10673679
Thank fuck AP found a model other than Risa.

>>10673683
They're in the new LARME https://www.weibo.com/5233173878/KyLGG4DxE

>>10673678
Oh shit i need her

>>10673680
This headdress look too wide

>>10673687
I think they are trying to go with influence from royal head wears. They generally looked that wide.

>>10673684
and still they dont let them smile; the larme effect ruining everything

they have used non risa models before just never for the actual release pics on the site lately

>>10673678
I want that hair

>>10673630
Mine has been shipped, I’m super excited!

>>10673888
Mine has been shipped as well

>>10673680
This is just a new Toys Museum

>>10673372
Look like something Meta would make. But if you like it that's all that matters.

>>10673888
>>10673889
I got my MTO through an SS in Japan and it still isn't ready for pick up at their store. Bad feels. I wonder why it's so far behind USA/Paris.

>>10673387
The rabbit is cute but everything else looks like something a 10 year old would make

>>10673981
What store did they order from? Harajuku pick up goes until September 21st.

>>10674025
Forgot to add, that’s per the email I received, I assume it’s possible it could be different.

>>10673981
Harajuku got the MTO items first and the other stores will follow a few weeks after.

>>10674025
Not Harajuku or any of the Tokyo area stores. Not sure of the specific one.

>>10674028
Thanks. I'm not too worried, but just kinda annoyed that usually Japan gets everything first and I felt dumb emailing my SS.

>>10673678
>>10673679
Reminds me of Holiday Collection

Am I going mental or are there two OP cuts? I wonder if one’s a special set

>>10674039
Looks like two OPs (long and short sleeve) and a JSK.

What happened with Risa? She was so fucking pretty and cool just 5 years ago.

>>10674150
When someone looks miserable and seems to have no personality, the "cool"ness kind of wears off. We want to see models who are enthusiastic about lolita, not ones who look like angry cats stuffed in a sweater.

>>10672918
I want just the skirt

>>10673678
>>10673684
>>10674165
This new girl looks just as depressed and bummed out as Risa... I think it's the AP art director wanting the models to look like that?

>>10674150
She aged and got bad plastic surgery

>>10673654
even without the chain, the giant heart placement slightly off-center is whats really triggering my ocd and i can’t get over it. i really wish they just had the bunny by itself or put the balloon as part of the actual pendant. but…not this..

>>10673981
thats weird are people getting their US store orders already? when i made my order last year they sent an email explaining they wouldn’t come out till later, in october

>>10673654
Do you mind posting a photo? I was planning to buy and would appreciate a pic to see what you mean, if you have the time!

>>10673678
Are there any previews of other dresses? This one is so cute!

Dramatic Heart release for Silver Week. For a few hundred thousand yen, you can own it too

http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/202109dress/index.htm

>>10674757
Looks like a hideous clolita disaster

>>10673164
Image stolen from instagram. There's no rhinestone, for sure. Seems so empty.
I wonder if I'm crazy enough to get a tiny glass crystal and glue it in there myself.

>>10674792
You look like a hideous lolita disaster.

>>10674963
It's weird that nothing is there because usually the lyrical bunny tag has some sort of button or round thing placed on top to secure it in 3D fabric applications. I wonder if AP fucked things up in the factory on these and they noticed after one color so they stopped further production. Super speculative but so weird to change up a common mascot design like this.

>>10674966
I know it's probably just AP notoriously making a bad design choice, but I totally want to buy in to this story

>>10674963
It’s deliberate picrelated doesnt have a gem in the tag either

>>10674165
Angry cats stuffed in a sweater is a great aesthetic, I'm going to steal that.

>>10674980
No gem in tag but it does have an obvious contrasting color

How come there are so many males itt or where this ”women should smile more” energy comes from?

>>10674757
It screams "I have too much money"

>>10674757
Ok but this is hideous. Wtf AP.

>>10674985
it sounds dumb and all but i think lolitas prefer to see people enjoying the clothes vs the standard aloof and bored or intense model looks we see in normie fashion, and we have that standard because of past advertising material we're used to. non-smiling expressions can be cute (look at risa in the op pic of the mid-autumn festival thread, she looks adorable despite not smiling) but if AP is gonna just do her on a white background the ads tend to feel flat when risa does the same expression or hardly poses.

>>10675057
nta, but I think those are lolita at hearts. I don't really care that much, personally. I think Risa looks fine. She's just a model. You don't need a lifestyler wearing lolita to model. It just sounds like some jelly shit ngl.

>>10674985
Agreed. It sounds very scrote-like "she should smile more."

>>10675071
>it sounds scrote like for lolitas to want to see a model who enjoys the clothes they’re modeling

Retard.

>>10675076
Lolitas at heart. Do you need glasses? Or are you really trying to say you're a lolita at heart?

>>10675071
Before Risa AP’s photo shoots were very upbeat and creative. Sometimes even silly but in a charming way. The models looked like they were having fun. Overall it made for a lot more dynamic pictures that were far more compelling to look at than watching Risa make the same disgruntled face and boring poses.

>>10675083
That’s also a retard take. I’ve been a lolita since 2006. I would bet it’s the lolitas who were around to see APs old photo shoots like me that are complaining about Risa being boring.

>>10675087
Man I miss these so much. They honestly spark joy and get you more hyped for the pieces than what Risa's face of misery has been doing.

>>10675088
This. I would bet anything that the people defending Risa have only been in the fashion for five years or less.

>>10675089
>>10675088
This, it's mostly about the energy of the images and how it makes you feel at first glance. If you came around more recently you might be used to the change but people are always nostalgic for shit, it's like 90s kids nostalgia but for lolita oldfags. People just like what they remember or feels familiar.

>>10674757
holy shit the headbow looks retarded

>>10674989
Too much money and not enough taste

>>10674989
Poorfags really cannot let it go that people can spend their money on what they want, huh? Yeah it’s ugly but the fact that you’re seething over other people’s money is pathetic

>>10669912
It's actually really pretty in close-up so jump on it if you can, but don't keep your hopes high though because lavender goes sold like hotcakes.

>>10674989
>not knowing about AP's expensive OTT dresses
Get out newfag. I bet you cry about Baby's OTT and wedding style dresses because they're too expensive for you wuhhhh.

>>10675337
Nayrt but anyone who pays any amount of money, no matter how small, to wear a hideous dress like that is being scammed

>>10675087
AP ads used to be so whimsical. Now they feel so uninspired

>>10675372
i mean that goes for the dresses too, so it's not surprising

>>10675087
Models smiling and interacting eachother make the fashion actually look enjoyable to wear, like real clothes. Models dont just wear the outfit they’re selling, they’re selling the image of the brand.

I’d rather aspire to be two cute girls smiling energetically than Risa, all alone and looking sad.

>>10675395
god i wish this time period would come back.

>>10675395
Not only that, but sometimes the cute backgrounds they have. Now we get Risa pouting in dilapidated abandoned houses with tacky old looking wallpaper….

>>10675395
Remember when Maki and Asuka also modelled for the Kera spreads? I loved the idea of the designers wearing their own designs.

>>10673678
This looks taobao

>>10673678
Taobao toys museum vibes.

Anyone else reporting wrong sizing w sugary carnival? I'm worried now... a 7cm difference is huge.

>>10675546
If you weren’t fat you wouldn’t have to worry

>>10675400
I just want the aesthetic to come back, none of the other bullshit from this time period.

>>10675546
Realistically this makes me happy to see that there is going to be a ton of sugary carnival mtos to hit the market. You shouldn't be expecting large sizing for surgary carnival, because it was on the smaller end to begin with.

>>10675565
I think it's reasonable for people to expect it to fit the size advertised. It'd be one thing if they complained about the brand needing to cater to fats but the brand said it'd be X size, so it's kind of a lie to then have it be Y size. They say to leave room for error but 7cm is a big error.

>>10675547
i'm a US size 6, boobs aren't even big. i have wide shoulders and a wider ribcage than average... f off
>>10675565
this just in: it's now considered unreasonable to expect the sizing to be what is advertised!
>>10675567
yeah this, i'm definitely never advocating for lolita brands to cater to fatties (which is why i don't participate in facebook groups, that's all anybody wants to talk about on there regarding ap)

>>10675546
It isnt a 7 cm difference, it is just that a fatty is angry it doesnt fit her. Its like 100 cm and you have to obviously be under that.

>>10675575
it's at least 7cm difference, anon. are you retarded?

>>10675573
>i'm a US size 6, boobs aren't even big. i have wide shoulders and a wider ribcage than average... f off

US size six is pretty damn big…

>>10675573
I was a US 6 at my fattest, and I never had any issues fitting into shirred AP. You'll be fine anon

>>10675577
70cm waist isn't tiny but it's not huge. Even a UK 6 is 80cm bust

>>10675576
It isnt. I saw people measure theirs and it was not 7 cm difference. Again, you have to be under 100 cm to wear it, but there is more to fit than just raw measurements of the bust.

>>10675581
>70cm waist isn't tiny but it's not huge


Yes it is. You’re delusional.

>>10675585
Ignoring the voting thing cause no one cares what scrotes want, even US size 6 is far from huge for an adult female. Height plays a role too of course.

>>10675588
You say ignore the voting and yet you used this scrote image. Fuck off.

>>10675589
It's literally from a normie women's magazine. The voting was related to the article which had to to with who was sexiest (there may have been women voting too idk just assumed they asked dudes), so it isn't directly relevant to who is fat or skinny, but that doesn't change these womens' body size or shape.

>>10675592
Fuck. Off. Scrote.

>>10675594
>anon larping as anachan forgets size 6 is actually normal
>proceeds to accuse someone of being a scrote who literally used the word scrote first to deflect

>>10675598
>twisting the narrative this hard

>>10675602
Anon can you read? Like are you actually illiterate?

>>10675605
Why should I bother reading the raging of a fatty/scrote?

I'm smaller than a size 6, I just think you're retarded

Serious question, but what is the point of buying an MTO dress just to throw it up on LM immediately?

Sure it's like $100 more but you already paid the SS and shipping, it can't be that profitable? It's just so obnoxious seeing LM be flooded with the new MTO that is finally sent out (looking at all the freshly picked strawberries and sugary carnival rn).

>>10675641
Only scalpers and people who couldn't afford, fit, or REALLY didn't like the dress typically do it.

>>10675641
>buy it on impulse
>don’t really want it nine months later
>sell it

The end

>>10675585
>>10675585
Holy shit, thank you, I will starve my 5'10 ass to death in order to have normal measurements, thank you for your wisdom anons

>>10673678
sadly the quality will be shit as always since 2017~2018

>>10675648
Well you’re a man so you’ll never have the measurements of a real woman

Can anybidy post the actual measurements of their sugary carnival op and jsk, max bust, etc?

>>10675585
>mfw I gotta get parts of my ribcage remove to attain a waist below 70cm

>>10675699
Go for it.

>>10675584
As someone who owns the MTO, 95cm sounds about right in my opinion. Any bigger and you'd have a lot of trouble zipping it up, if you can at all.

Really odd that AP still claims the max stretch is 102 when there's no way it can stretch that far, even if you count margin of error. I get not having to accomodate to fatties but I can't really blame anyone for being upset that they're too big for a dress that should've fit them according to the listed measurements.

>>10675703
This. Meta made plus size dresses and got the elastic a bit too tight making the sizing feel off, and offered free alterations to fix it. I can fit it without those and got the bigger size for length, so I didn't need it, but the fact they offered because it was their own fuck up is really nice and appreciated. Not saying AP needs to do the same but acknowledging the difference or trying trying have some level of accuracy on measurements would be good. I guess in AP's defense they aren't catering to plus sizes as directly as Meta so sizing being a little off doesn't matter as much to them or won't affect their reputation in their usual market

>>10675703
Tbh if it was me and I got a dress that was too small despite being well within measurements I'd end up thinking I'd gained weight somehow and go check the scale and my measurements with multiple measuring tapes to make sure as well as check the dress or on my dress form with the supposed measurements. I'd be blaming myself the whole time unless someone else told me they had the same problem.

>>10675699
If you work out your chest, back, shoulder blades you'll likely lose some of that fat around your rib cage fyi

>>10675710
They might have little body fat and a naturally larger waist. I'm underweight and while my other measurements fit a US XS, my waist is still 66-68cm

>>10675693
Seconding this.

If a few anons can post flat measurements of the OP, we'd have solid proof of whether or not it's the original sizing or the MTO's claimed sizing.

I was nervous about getting the OP because the new sizing was almost too large for me, so it'd be kind of great if they actually made it smaller.

>>10675699
>>10675712
Lipo is the answer. People have this misconception that it's for landwhales but that's actually false. It's entirely about distribution of fat, not weight loss. Any weight you "lose" in the operation will be regained extremely quickly if your eating habits remain unchanged.

Source: I got lipo. I had stubbon, weirdly distributed fat around my abdomen which I hated. I was already clinically underweight, so losing more weight was obviously not the answer. Since getting lipo, I don't think twice about showing off my stomach.

>>10675707
I wish I could switch to being a Meta fag so bad but I just can't fall in love with their designs as I do AP. I've been holding my breath for a really great plus size release for a while...

>>10675744
Lose weight

>>10675546
Did anyone else notice this seller has 2 different OP listings under 2 different accounts but with the same description

Why

>>10675730
I want to get lipo for my upper thighs, I've been healthy and getting physical exercise 3-4 times a week for months now and they have not changed size or appearance

>>10675699
nonnie if you're desperate enough and can't afford lipo corsetry might be worth, I went from 71 to 67cm using one for a while. Curbs your appetite real good too

>>10675730
>>10675804
I considered it but then I saw a video of the surgery and said he’ll naw

>>10675835
I mean it’s not a very invasive surgery at all so the recovery wasn’t even that bad. It’s very superficial, you’re not like piercing your organs or anything.

>>10675730
Congrats!

Shut the fuck up about your weird ass surgeries and get back on topic.
How many people have had their MTOs ship out so far? I'm still waiting on mine from AP USA.

This might be a dumb question but

Why is the AP USA website a steaming pile of utter outdated garbage compared to AP Paris?

>>10675839
It just grossed me out tho

>>10675955
AP SF shipped mine on Friday and got to me in less than 3 days.
I also have an SS order and that one was just picked up and is being prepped to ship.

>>10675648
I'm the same height as you and my waist is nowhere near 70 cm, holy shit.

>>10675988
I have had malnourished looking /fa/ bfs who had 75 cm waists at that height or shorter, get a grip. Summer's over, you've all got to get a little more creative than calling everyone fat and poor.

>>10675955
I'm also waiting on mine.

>>10675585
>>10675988
And I'm also 5'10, 130lbs and my waist is 73cm. It's fine. Relax.

>>10675585
It really isn't.

>>10675955
I’m waiting for mine from AP SF. I re-read the email saying they’re preparing to ship and reply by 9/18 of address change. I guess also reply if no address change? I just bought something from them that shipped last week…

>>10675955
they asked for my address, I replied within the hour, they confirmed my address
that was 10 days ago, haven't gotten a shipping notification or anything, package still says it's pre-order and it's waiting on japan shipment

>>10676093
Calm down. There’s tons of orders they have to deal with.

>>10676096
I am calm. Just responding to the on-topic prompt. Wasn't expecting it until next month anyway.

SF just shipped my order!!!! I'm making celebratory tea <3

>>10675585
I love the vacuum that anachans on 4chan live where they think sub 26 inch waists are normal on every single woman.

>>10676241
For the measurements of AP and how short it is, that is the ideal waist at max.

You shouldn't be whining about how you're tall and your waist is larger. Maybe AP is not for you, but a longer length lolita brand?

>>10676242
I’m a womanlet who is fat by cgl standards and I fit fine into AP and it’s my entire wardrobe.

>>10676246
Hi Liv

>>10676241
I'm almost certain that must be some retarded Americafag confusing cm and inches. There are not that many anachans in every comm I've seen, so I have a hard time believing that 4chan is suddenly swarming with them.

>>10676260
nta and idk who liv is but how could you possibly try to narrow down a generic post like that when many girls into lolita are womanlets since it's a fashion that suits petite/shorter women well, and 99% of non asian girls are fat by cgl standards

oh boy, I sure hope AP's release for this week is a forgettable medley of dresses and one accessory thrown in to make everything redeemable

>>10676264
This is a retarded guess since everyone in this fashion uses cm to measure themselves for pieces

>>10675581
You’re all embarrassing. Speaking from experience, standard sample sizes for literal professional models in the UK are size 6 or 8. A size 8 has about a 70cm waist.

>>10676296
You're really expecting too much of burgers. Even when LM changed the plus size friendly tag to try to improve it, they had it in inches instead of cm, and many people are always posting on fb groups asking for dresses that fit their measurements and listing in inches.

>>10676296
>implying that everyone responding in these threads on 4chan actually wears the fashion
good one, anon

>>10676298
I said UK 6 was 80cm bust, not waist. Cause some people think busts in the 80-90cm range is too big too. 70cm waist is for US 6. Sorry if that was confusing switching between the two.

>>10676299
>using LM

Well since you’re new it makes sense you didn’t know. But 99% of people use cm in this fashion.

>>10676303
Oh I'm definitely in the group that uses cm, I was just giving examples of how despite cm being the best thing to use since that's what brands use, that even still burgers will use inches and probably get them confused. You don't have to buy from LM regularly to be aware that when they made the change people were immediately confused by why it was inches and not cm. But using LM is fine in general, the selection is just rough a lot of the time and prices are often mediocre at best.

>>10676305
>But using LM is fine in general,

Lol no. It’s basically only newfags and scalpers now.

>>10676177
This is cute, you sound excited. Happy for you anon!

>>10676307
There are decent prices occasionally but they go in actual seconds at times so not worth stalking the site for that but nice if you get lucky checking one day. I usually buy direct from brands though because there's rarely older items I want that I don't already own at this point so I'm more focused on new things.

>>10676310
Literally nobody here cares about your personal shopping habits. Stop blogging.

>>10676311
nobody cares about any of the off topic shit itt

everyone responding with weight sperg over someone with a legit discussion topic about the brand potentially having incorrect sizing is dumb anyway

post sc measurements for the people who care or fuck off all of you

>>10676307
It's decent, it's just that much like with mercari or fril, you gotta fast. It is what it is. It doesn't help that most western lolitas sell directly to friends or comm members nowadays.

>>10675972
Mine shipped today! I’m in California so it should get here really soon! I got the sax jsk full set :D

>>10676317
This pretty much. Desirable well priced stuff goes fast in any secondhand market. AP especially.

>>10676315
I have SC with me but I’m not gonna measure it for your fat ass just for this snippy comment

>>10676330
not even one of the ones who wanted to know, its just the last on topic discussion this thread really had

>>10676332
Sure jan

>>10676334
already have the original so really yeah

though curious if ap lied on the new ones sizing cause it would be funny and speak to their qc

>>10676336
Nobody cares if you have the original or not. Nobody cares about YOU in general.

>>10676337
Nobody cares about anything but AP in this thread including your opinions so STFU Sneakers-Chan-Burando-Ita

Wow AP having shit releases has really killed this thread the past month

>>10676385
This. The entire fall catalog was a huge letdown for me. Fall/winter releases are usually my favorites. I have never said this before, but I have more meta releases I’m interested in than ap this season. Cats and cherry cake looks fucking adorable compared to the crap ap came up with.

>>10676346
>Sneakers-Chan-Burando-Ita

Your vendetta is insane.

>>10676242
I have a 26 inch waist and most brand dresses are baggy on me. Even older releases have min waists of 68 inches. You're retarded.

>>10676480
>Even older releases have min waists of 68 inches
>inches
>calls other people retarded

>>10676346
Anon please take your meds

>>10676393
We're multiple anons. There were more than enough witnesses of that shitfit she threw.

>>10676486
It’s vendetta because she has NOTHING to do with this conversation and yet she’s being brought up. Seek help.

>almost 2 PM on Friday in Japan
>no release details even though they'll probably suck
Life is pain

>>10676488
Ok. Spoken like AP sneakers-chan. Cry more you spergfaggot

>>10676498
You are unhinged.

>>10676494
Are you me? I care but I don't know why I care.

>>10676505
I don't know why I care either. I just have vague hope that maybe another cute thing like the Lyrical Bunny jewelry will randomly be included, and I have money burning in my pocket at this point.

>>10676494
If they don't update by 5 JST the Silver Week reservations are the 'release'.

>>10676510
That's not how it works lmao

The link goes to a 404, but this appears to be the release.

>>10676531
Release details are now up! The link works for me.

>>10676531
I know I'm a fucking idiot, but I want the crown. On a scale of 1 to 10, how shunned will I be?

>>10676537
Go ahead, who cares what others think

>>10676539
I don't like anything else and hate the dress, but crowns are a stupid obsession I've had forever. Gonna just throw my money at it. Probably won't very popular.

>>10676537
I also want the crown, it's so fun! Debating whether I go all in and try to get the jsk too.

>>10676540
I like the Shibuya and Nagoya exclusive OP, so fuck me. Might also get the crown though!

New: >>10676543

>>10676517
Okay newfag, keep convincing yourself that.

>>10676562
Well, the release is up, so...have fun being wrong?

>>10675988
>people are built differently
Comes as a shock to your malnourished brain, doesn't it ?

>>10676307
Well, same goes for mercari nowadays. I miss the golden age of japanese second hand online sales.

>>10676572
Well where is a good spot for secondhand? The shops barely have shit so I’m always just on fril and mercari

>>10676567
It was posted at 4 which is an hour before 5, genius. If it's not posted by 5 it ain't happening.

>>10676488
I'm the one who called them sneakers brand ita chan at first and it was literally a joke because they keep replying to other people's posts with nobody cares constantly and it was getting fucking annoying lol. I went to sleep but I guess other people joined in for fun.

>>10676596
I mean in this case, she would be right. No one does fucking care. Your attempt at a forced meme was unfunny.

>>10676596
Your vendetta isn’t cute.

>>10676307
what's a better place to sell then? is there a good fb group for it

>>10676346