/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Let's start the thread off with a dump of this weekend's releases. First up is the Dolls Collection Napoleon-style dress, exclusive to Nagoya and Shibuya in ivory, pink, sax, and black.

>>10676546
Next up, regular OP. Same colors.

>>10676547
And the JSK, also same colorways naturally.

>>10676548
The headdress, which features a detachable heart-shaped brooch! Same colorways.

>>10676549
Dolls Logo Escharp/sash, it comes sax, wine, pink, and black. Cute and versatile.

>>10676550
Dolls Bowtie Blouse, a cute and royal cotton long sleeve blouse that comes in white, pink, sax, and black!

>>10676552
Dolls Tiara, a fur trimmed crown that comes in pink and wine!

>>10676553
Dolls Collection pouch, an affordable pouch great for keeping accessories or makeup, comes in pink and sax!

>>10676554
Dolls Collection Notebook, a notebook with blank white pages so it has lots of uses! Pink is the only color for this one.

>>10676555
And the last item for the week is Nostalgic Heart OTKs, with sweet heart insets. The colors are this gorgeous autumn pink, as well as sax, white, and black.

>>10676546
this long-sleeved OP is so much better than the other cuts, pain that it's store exclusive.

maybe Paris will have it...

>>10676546
I like it in this color, but I think that might be cause the coord as a whole looks good, idk
t. cringeprint hater

>>10676546
I’m excited for the jewelry, you can see the necklace and sorta see the side of the ring here, they look so cute

>>10676549
The ring in this photo looks sooo cute!

>>10676585
That's the Noble Collection ring, though the pink was slightly exclusive. They might rerelease it, but it isn't new.

>>10676553
did they shoop it onto her head???

>>10676553
This looks identical to a crown that came with a shitty Halloween costume I own. Abysmal quality.

>>10676611
Looks like it, but might not be it.

>>10676611
No.

>>10676640
Ew, everything in this photo looks so cheap. I actually wanted that crown before seeing it like this

Got the socks in white just now. Cute and good to have some simpler white OTKs

I wanted some sashes from Paris and they… weren’t available for even a second? Were they available for the VIP release?

I didn’t think they’d be that popular lel. I thought most APfags had forgotten 2015 mature sweet ever existed

>>10676546
quality
>>10676547
trash

who's with me?

>>10676655
>weren’t available for even a second
I didn't watch this release, but that's highly suspicious. The 5-minute cart system means that even if people clicked quickly, the quantity would still show up until people finished checking out.

I also find it hard to believe that every color of these would instantly sell out. They aren't popular pastel colors. I'm a sweet whore and I scrolled over them in the release announcement. I would bet either Paris screwed up correcting the quantity when listing them, or maybe they forgot to withhold stock for the general release? But again, I still doubt the sashes were even that popular. I'd honestly keep an eye on the page because Paris might "restock" them in a few hours.

>>10676548
I really like this jsk and release for some reason, still thinking which colorway i like best.

>>10676307
what's a better place to sell then? is there a good fb group for it

>>10676667
Me. I'm so upset about the good OP being store limited.

>>10676549
This headdress looks incredibly cheap...

>>10676640
Looks like a Burger King hat lmao

>>10676804
Can't unsee it now. Burger King Birthday girl.

>>10676804
>>10676889
Not gonna lie, that kinds makes me love it more.

Just saw this on Rufflechat/FB.
What the fuck did AP do? This is basically my worst nightmare.
I was under the impression that AP makes more as extras to avoid things like this (and it's obvious that MTOs like Toy Doll Box and Toy Fantasy had extra made because of how many times they were offered for store renewals).
I'm wondering if this isn't the only person who got an email too.

>>10676905
Was just about to post this.

What could have happened that AP has all but their dress? What a bummer and one of the worst dresses this could have happened with. Scalpers will be panning off their fulfilled mto orders at above retail pricing on lm and fril and this person somehow missed out on their dress.

>>10676907
I feel like the least they could have done is throw the person a coupon voucher or something. Just a refund is a huge "fuck you, we don't know how to double check our orders lol" Like why didn't Paris catch this months ago? Unless it's AP Japan's fault for sending the wrong amount.

>>10676905
This is hilarious. Sucks 2 suck

>>10676905
AP should have told the buyer months ago it was cancelled. It was an MTO, how did AP forget and not fulfill their order?

Why is AP USA’s website such a pile of outdated garbage compared to AP Paris?

>>10676925
Why do you keep asking this question?

>>10676925
All the AP sites are garbage, anon. They've all crashed before and has issues overselling.

>>10676925
The Paris website is also shite, you're not making the point you think you're making.

>>10676937
>>10676935
I mean the UI design. Is each store responsible for their own or what? It’s so bizarre how outdated and different it looks. It also seems to never be updated with accurate info.

>>10676927
Because no one has answered and it’s literally worse than local restaurants.

>>10676949
What makes you think someone here would know the answer? If you want to complain about it, complain about it. Don't frame it as a question that has no answer just to get someone to respond to you.

>>10676949
>people didn’t pay enough attention to me and my retarded question so I have to keep asking!!

>>10676949
This board is full of people who work for AP, so I'm sure you'll get an answer eventually if you keep asking.

>>10676950
Jesus Christ, you salty faggot. I’m just genuinely curious and would assume that maybe someone here has worked in, or knows someone who has worked in, an AP shop. No need to be a cunt about an innocent question.

>>10676953
Did I somehow touch a nerve to make you seethe this hard? Looks like my persistence paid off, sorry anon.

>>10676957
If you’re being sarcastic, people actually do know different brands’ shop staff. Not everyone is some from some comm in Kentucky or wherever you’re from

>>10676949
I think it’s literally just some random shop girl running the thing who has no idea what to do with it. It’s been the same for like 8 years.

>>10676655
They sold out well under a minute for VIP. It definitely felt strange

>>10676965
I really wanna be their web dev after I graduate soon…I’d get rid of the stupid moving banners and update the css. Add better navigation besides jamming every category onto the left side menu.
but I’m not sure they’d even pay me an ok salary or if they even care about improving the website. I guess i’ll try emailing them anyway, you never know

>>10676968
Unless you speak Nipponese, they probably wont give you the time of day

>>10676969
I don’t, yeah i think you’re right. Baby would probably give me the time of day… last time i was there a white girl was working in the shop. But their website is fine and doesn’t need many fixes.
Damn it AP i just wanna help you ;_;

>>10676970
White girls can speak Japanese too. You probably won't get hired without it, why would they hire someone who can't speak Japanese when they could hire someone who can?

>>10676970
>;_;

Retard

>>10676971
I didn’t want to be a shop girl. i just wanted to fix the website so I don’t know why I’d have to speak japanese for that?
But also, the website has not been fixed for a long time. they could hire a japanese speaking person to fix it if thats what they wanted. So either they don’t care to fix the website. or they can’t find a japanese speaking person who can fix it. If its the last case then maybe i have a tiny chance. I don’t know that’s just my thought process here.

>>10676971
Why is this even a requirement. You don’t need to be speaking to any Japanese higher ups except your manager, who presumably speaks English. I’ve never met a person in SF who exclusively spoke Japanese unless they were old. Most people visiting the shop speak English or Chinese. If I was a manager, I’d rather take a personable, warm, native English speaking shop girl who can interact with customers well, over some ESL chick who is quiet and difficult to understand.

>>10676968
>pay me an ok salary
No one is going to pay you a salary for fixing a website as a one time deal though. You would have to be hired on as an actual developer, and I doubt AP requires any full time.

AP USA doesn't need you to know japanese. they literally just get the listing description and pics from jp site. i used to know almost all the people who worked there and the dev would always post here when she put the releases up.

>>10676967
It seems they were sold out very quickly on Japanese website too... Maybe they under produced that sash? I don't know why they would think it wouldn't be popular

>>10676974
>so I don’t know why I’d have to speak japanese for that?
Because Japan has a superiority complex and anyone who doesn't speak Nihonese is less than dog shit to them.

>>10676986
Sashes sold out insanely quickly on JP. Same goes for the crown.

>>10676949
This is what the stupid questions thread is for anon

>>10676975
>some ESL chick who is quiet and difficult to understand

You don't have to be ESL or bad at English to know Japanese. You sound like a kid making all these weird assumptions.

ap usa will hire anyone. i knew a few people who worked there. the dev in 2014 was my friend and she would give all the release info to post here back then.

>>10677025
Yeah. Because the pay is absolutely garbage in one of the most expensive cities in the world. They’ll take what they can get. Last I checked they offered 14.76 an hour when the average one bedroom apartment was $3800 a month.

>>10677031
Wow it’s almost like retail work is something anyone can do so it’s not paid a high wage.

>>10676997
Right, but the ones they hire almost always are. Probably because the pool of lolitas who know both Japanese and English well is small

>>10677034
It really isn't though tons of lolitas learn Japanese cause they already have an interest in Japan or it makes shopping easier. Just based on cgl alone a good handful know conversational Japanese at least and probably more but just never use it besides lolita or travel.

>>10677033
Not really anon. You can’t work at a store when it’s a 3 hour commute from the closest housing that even comes close to being affordable on that wage.

>>10677050
And yet that happens. You’re retarded. Of course retail workers aren’t going to be paid high. AP JP shop girls also get paid shit. Because retail isn’t hard.

>>10677050
Most retail workers in high rent areas work more than one job to afford rent.

>>10677051
nayrt, true but 14.76 is... really low even for retail work in sf. especially for retail work in that location , in the high end fashion district. One block away you have Hermes and the like.
I guess the shop girls just want to work there because it's AP. maybe they're trust fund kids and don't need to worry about low pay.
I wonder if they get discounts?

>>10677053
>comparing the paychecks of fucking Hermès and angelic pretty

You’re either really dumb or trolling. You can’t compare actual high end brands with items that cost tens of thousands to a niche obscure fashion with $300 dresses

>>10677054
The main difference is also that shop workers in designer stores are more in sales and more about getting you to buy as they earn commission. It's still reta but it's less stock and displays and more getting that sale or selling a lot to big spenders. AP and lolita brand showgirls don't really care of you walk out with something because they're not paid to.

>>10677054
Damn nonny I wasn’t comparing them directly. Calm down before you respond things.
I thought they’d pay their shop girls a little more because AP is in a desirable location. I used Hermes as an example of a desirable location to be in. that’s all. I am used to seeing companies in desirable locations pay employees more than the same branch in a worse location. Please understand.

>>10677058
Nta and yeah I get what you mean. Even Starbucks has regional pay scales and minimum wages based somewhat on cost of living for certain areas.

>>10677053
can't speak for AP USA but the shopgirls in japan get 50% off because they're required to wear whatever print is on the shelf at that moment.

>>10677062
This is why despite working there sounding like a dream I never would. I can’t bring myself to wear shit mainpieces. If they let me wear just my own wardrobe I would 100% drop everything to go work there.

>>10677063
the japanese shopgirls genuinely love AP, a lot of them wear it on their days off too

>>10677066
Nobody said they didn’t? I genuinely love AP but I’m not gonna wear prints from them I don’t like. And I wear my dresses five days a week.

>>10676925
At least they can fill their MTOs properly.

>>10676889
>>10676804
Happy birthday!

>>10677073
omfg

>>10676549
This is sooo cute

>>10677051
Meanwhile retailers are sobbing about not being able to find enough employees kek.

>>10676949
afaik ap usa is not actually owned by ap, it's leased by somebody. so it has no direct connection like paris or the china ones do

>>10677073
The sad part is, I didn't even notice the crown swap until I enlarged the image. Nice one, anon.

>>10677106
And yet, AP SF actually screws up less than Paris. They don't tell customers months after the fact that they can't fulfill their MTO order. And they actually contact buyers when they see packages haven't been delivered after 3-4 weeks.

>>10677031
This.

>>10677110
All my interactions with AP USA have been great. I've had good interactions with AP Paris, but AP USA seems to try and go an extra mile. They remind me a bit of Meta's customer service, which has ALWAYS been stellar.

>>10677033
>>10677051
I'd love to know what people who say this shit do. Every job requires some basic knowledge of the product, every responsibility of operating a retail business falls on the employees. Especially dealing with customers with rancid personalities who genuinely believe they have more inherent worth than them.

They have to order product and find ways to deal with garbage product sent from corporate, deal with invoices and shipping, make sure orders are fulfilled, keep track of inventory, loss prevention, make sales goals, make displays, manage the employees themselves, their pay and schedules. It's basically a small business, which are generally not easy to run.

But yeah, everyone who works in retail totally deserves to live in their car and if they were less stupid they would pull themselves up by their tea party straps and get a better job. What dummies.

>>10677157
>t. Seething poorfag acting like retail is something you need to be skilled to do

That’s why every high schoolers first job is retail or fast food, right? Kek

>>10677157
>every responsibility of operating a retail business falls on the employees.

No shit. They’re literally hired to do that. That is their job. Why are you acting like it’s a big deal that people do the job they were hired to do?

>>10677157
99% of people can work retail jobs. That’s why they are entry level to the workforce jobs that pretty much any high schooler without any work history can get unless it’s a managerial position. Retail isn’t hard to do, it just sucks to do. Most people grow out of it, and those that don’t don’t deserve to be paid more if they don’t have a skill set worthy of a higher paying job.

>>10677157
It's because people don't realize that there are different jobs within retail with different pay structures and responsibilities. They think everyone is a sales associate only.

Although generally, those other positions do get paid more because they do require more specific skills, but depends on the company and scale. I do think boutique workers like brand shopgirls get pretty robbed unless they're making commission, because as you said, it's way more responsibilities than say a sales position at H&M or whatever. Does anyone know if AP shopgirls get commission or sales bonuses?

>>10677162
>99% of people can work retail jobs
Yes that's why we as a society have eliminated unemployment and these jobs have such high rates of internal promotions and such low turnover.
>>10677158
If you had space in your brain to spare after projecting your insecurities, you might have some room for some critical thinking. I don't work in retail. Everyone who works in retail isn't a pimply teenager, plenty of people with advanced degrees have to work in retail, and retail, like literally any other profession, has more than entry level jobs, and even the entry level jobs vary depending on who you work for. And yes, some positions even require extensive knowledge, skill, and experience!

>>10677163
It would be a good incentive to pay them commission honestly. I don't know what their in store inventory level are like, but really fug garbage seems to eventually sell or disappear from the website. So maybe they're doing something.

Like it makes no sense to me to disparage retail workers. The foot soldiers that enable the brands you love so much to actually make money and exist?

It really seems more like a job for someone who is financially comfortable already and wants to take their lolita indulgence to the next level. Otherwise it makes zero sense to work there for that pay.

>>10677265
Kek it’s hilarious that you’re absolutely seething over this. you’re TOTALLY not a retail worker

>>10677265
I agree I don’t think any of the shop staff in AP US or AP Paris actually need the money. Most likely well off already, live with spouse, family or housemates, college students with parents or scholarships helping finance their lifestyle, etc. If you really need income to live in SF, I highly doubt you’d choose to work at AP unless you have a second job or side hustle going too.

>>10677267
I love how the default response on this board is oh you must poor [retail worker]. Brand shops closing is generally not a good sign for a brand. It means they took a huge risk and started losing money or tried to save something that kept bleeding money until they took it off life support. Remember Atelier Boz?

Like sorry you are so divorced from reality that you don't understand that there are things and jobs that you have no knowledge of and don't have the skills required to do them. Those jobs used to pay a liveable wage enough to buy a house and have a pension because it's almost like someone who rings up your groceries adds value to society. Imagine buying your groceries or laundry detergent or car payment on lacemarket.

>>10677405
Tldr. Seethe.

>>10676556
Gorgeous. I love the little heart details. They're still in stock on AP Japan's store in all colourways, though. I was hoping the pink OTKs would be more popular so that I could see them coorded in different ways.

>>10677411
I'm shocked they were so easy to get. At least the white and black I figured might sell out because they're a nice simple design. I guess anything that doesn't immediately read OTT sweet or come in the standard pastels gets ignored a bit these days.

>>10677162
I’m a specialist at a big box home improvement store, and I make 25 bucks an hour plus around 1200 a month in commission. Benefits, 401k, stock options, and a month of paid time off a year. It’s not too bad… even if it’s considered a retail job. It helps my house is paid for, in full in cash. (I trimmed weed for years in Northern California and laundered the money lol). No kids and practically no bills leaves me free to do whatever I want. And honestly, I like working with the public for the most part, you get to see some crazy shit.. retail isn’t all shitty… my store manager probably makes upward of 250k per year.

>>10677455
No1curr. This is not your blog.

>>10677455
People really fail to realize that retail when done right, can and often is a legit career. My store has a union and we get guaranteed raises. You can actually live a middle class lifestyle.

>>10677413
I’m not mad about it, people can keep their ott sweet these are gorgeous. I’m only a bit worried about the fit/stretch. Ap OTKs have been all over the place lately.

>>10677505
Got two pairs of otk's from their store in CA. One pair loses the design when worn and is scratchy. The other is my favorite pair of Otk's.

>>10677505
I purposefully didn't buy the OTKs for this release because all of them have had next to no stretch lately. The materials were the same as always, so I don't think they are going to be any better.

>>10677506
Drop a pic so I know what to avoid.

>>10677513
Yeah they look to be the same material as the moco bunny ones, which were awful.

>>10677505
>>10677513
I bought the black pair and they stretch a little. I have thick legs and thankfully they go over them without being too tight. They're not as elastic as APs very old cotton OTKs though. I'd do anything for AP to bring back their super stretchy kinds.

>>10677546
Hell I’d settle for the old nylon kind that actually stretched. My fave OTKs are chess emblem. Even on my big ass swimmers calves they look opaque and smooth. I literally cannot get my legs into the moco bunny ones or those famous btssb lacy socks.

>>10677546
I like the nylon-tights style OTKs, they still stretch very well. Granted my legs are only “big” compared to a small Asian girl, but I’ve still had problems with some of the newer socks.

>>10677551
As a tall-lita I also prefer the nylon style. The cotton style have very little height stretch and tend to get fuzzy and weird after a few washes. The old nylon ones go on forever without looking torn up.

Has AP USA started shipping sugary carnival yet?

>>10677455
>>10677467
This is exactly it. Working for a retailer that's been around a long time, long enough to build up career employees and the era where unions were stronger, it's a completely different beast from whatever trash F21 or mall stores anons are thinking of when they think retail. There's a reason those companies can only get the bottom of the barrel and kids to work for them.

>>10677668
Yes

>>10677549
Seconding chess emblem. They’re amazing.

>>10677668
Mine hasn’t shipped yet TT. I’m paranoid that I’ll get an email canceling my reservation.

Also, anyone else notice that ap prophet stopped posting and then AP is now hiring. I guess they got caught lol

>>10677839
>Mine hasn’t shipped yet TT. I’m paranoid that I’ll get an email canceling my reservation.
Same sigh

>>10677839
>anyone else notice that ap prophet stopped posting and then AP is now hiring

wait are they actually hiring or was that anon just fantasizing about working for them? also angelic prophet prolyl got tired of being gulls' bullshit and drawing their ire just because some people are annoyed that releases have been mostly mediocre for so long

>>10677988
Gulls being grateful, as per usual. But yes I thought they were actually hiring?

>>10678005
NTA but they've been hiring for a while, before prophet-chan left.

>>10676905
I wonder if this is a one-off or if it's been happening to others. Mine shipped so I'm not worried but I feel awful for her. Especially because it's not like there aren't extras in stores in Japan, why couldn't they just get her one of those?

>>10677668
I got mine 2 days ago! it's definitely the old sizing however gulls.

>>10678103
Am I crazy or did they not advertise larger measurements than that? Fucking hell I ordered this one specifically because it said it was a little larger than itty bitty titty size.

>>10678117
Seethe, fatty

>>10678142
To be fair, the measurements advertised were larger, and they’re still nowhere near fatty status. It wouldn’t matter if they were. If you advertise measurements that you don’t deliver that’s a problem.

>>10678142
Ok so I guess people shouldn’t be bothered when a brand fucks up the description of an item they paid ~$300 and waited 10 months for?

>>10678117
I’m with you, anon. I really hope it fits. If it is different I guess you can file a chargeback but you can probably sell it secondhand for more than you paid. Just sucks to miss out on it though.

>>10678227
Filing a chargeback is a sure fire way to get banned from shopping with them again

>>10678227
Imagine filing a chargeback because your fat kek

>>10678241
To be fair it’s pretty clear that ap has caveman tech so I doubt they’d be able to effectively enforce a ban

>>10678243
AP probably keeps a list at the physical store and can manually cancel orders. It's not that hard. They don't have much to do day-to-day, so keeping crappy customers away is actually probable.

>>10678214
Gonna be honest, but I'm glad the measurements are smaller than advertised. Releasing an MTO and changing the sizing from the original that sizes out girls who used to wear it is a shit-tier move, and I always wanted it to be the old sizing. Although I half don't believe anyone at this point because no one has posted pictures of the MTO's measurements actually being smaller than described.

Managed to buy my dream dress mercari but the seller hasn't replied at all to my SS's message and it's been days and they still haven't shipped it... Looks like the transaction will be cancelled, bummer.

>>10678258
Yeah, wrong thread but big oof. The foreigner hate is real TT

>>10678252
A list of names isn’t sufficient to ban. I think it’s pretty damn hard to enforce. You can use any name and ship to any address.

>>10678252
Wow. Imagine having body image issues so bad you actually wish that the brand fucked up the measurements. You need therapy hun.

>>10678252
Anon, Ap USA can’t even learn to scale their own website to traffic. There’s no way in hell they could effectively ban anyone.

>>10678269
How the fuck does wanting the better fitting original garment mean someone has body image issues? Absolute reach even for a seething fattie

>>10678315
nta but i assume that the new measurements still fit the anon who is happy it might be smaller just fine, they are just glad otger people are sized out of the dress rather than concerned about how it fits on themselves which is weird.

>>10678252
No one was ever sized out by the dress going slightly larger though.

>>10678321
Exactly. If you don’t want to see fat girls in the dress just say that but everybody knows those lace up backs can tighten by upwards of 10cm.

>>10678344
>>10678321
I'm nta I've absolutely had issues with dresses being too large in the shoulders/upper body. The waist hangs way too low, and just tightening from the back doesn't remove all that fabric vertically.

>>10678321
You forgot about how Honey Cake did end up being huge on some ppl.

>>10678392
Honey Cake was an outlier. 127cm is huge compared to the usual max of 100-110cm that AP does. I have no idea what AP was thinking. Catering to Westerners is one thing, but sizing out your usual customer base is bad business.

>>10678381
Clothes can be too big for someone, yes that is possible. But the few cm size increase is not the kind of thing causing a dress to hang off of someone. As someone else said the only place where the smallest end of people truly got sized out on a re-release is HC which was an outlier for a lot of reasons and they still re-released a lot of other cuts in smaller sizes too.

People often explain brands doing multiple cuts is a workaround for only offering one size. Idk if that is totally the case but since the JSK supposedly fit the same as the old one if people knew the OP was going to be a little bigger they can also buy the JSK. That's what people who have issues with measurements being too small or cut poorly for them do. It's normal. No one is entitled to the cut of a dress they want in a particular size. Not the fattasses and equally not the thin or particularly small and/or short people who are supposedly swimming in a dress with the only difference being a couple cm more shirring either.

>>10678201
>100cm bust
>nowhere near fatty status

Lol

>>10678419
You can be thin and have a ~100cm bust. Having boobs that big is unfortunate in lolita, but it doesn't make you a fatty by default.

>>10678321
Not true but OK fatty

>>10678420
Maybe if you’re like 5’10. But no, 99.999% of people with a bust measurement of 100Cm+ aren’t just “big boobed” like fatties like to meme to cope

>>10678421
No one was sized out of the SC OP by the size increase that was apparently not even a size increase according to a few people. Even if the dress actually was bigger no one would have gotten sized out of it.

>>10678423
>No one was sized out of the SC OP by the size increase

Clearly you’re new as fuck if you weren’t here for the chorus of complaining that they would now be sized out of the OP due to the size increase when the MTO dropped. you have NO idea what you’re talking about, it’s embarrassing.

>>10678424
People claimed that but it was never actually true.

>>10678424
Also the dress ended up not even being bigger kek so yeah MAYBE a few people were sized out of the imaginary hypothetical dress they thought they were getting but still bought it anyway and it turned out to be the same sizing.

>>10678426
>People claimed that but it was never actually true

You’re so fucking retarded it’s painful. You not believing that it would be too big for some people who wanted it doesn’t make that true. I was one of the people who was going to be outsized so I didn’t even bother to get the MTO and just bought the print cheap second hand

>>10678427
>>10678426
>>10678423
Reminder that is has been scientifically proven that being obese limits cognitive function so fatties are mentally impaired so you can’t expect them to be able to think logically.

>>10678321
dresses that are a few cm too big with no shirring will gape at the back, and that isn’t cute at all. but can we not derail another thread with another monkeybrained “ana-chan” vs “fatty” argument? not specifically directed at you, just a sweeping statement.

if any nonna has gotten theirs in the mail already, it’d be awesome if you could take some quick measurements. tenshi is shipping mine and it’d be cool to know what to expect, plus i’m sure others are curious

>>10678428
The dress could have been too big for some people. All clothes are too big or too small for some people. Buy a different cut, alter it, or go without. I take my dresses in when they're too big. Fatties are willing to shell out for two and get whole ass new bodices made. Having someone adjust literally a few cm is far less work in comparison. And less embarrassing than reeing just like an entitled fatty over sizing.

>>10678431
>with no shirring
SC OP and JSK have shirring and corset lacing. But I agree the arguing is silly and would really also like to see if anyone who got the new one can confirm with measurements what the difference is from the original or if there even is one since a few people have claimed it was legitimately smaller than the measurements.

>>10678423
I'm already sized out by most lolita, but there's definitely a difference between being sized out by maybe 2 cm and being sized out by almost 10. I'm a little upset because I probably would have bought the OP instead if I'd known it would be the original sizing. Still, I feel even worse for the girls who are going to get dresses they can't even zip up in the mail. This is a serious fuck up on AP's part.

>>10678435
If you're sized out by most stuff do you just take things in or never buy anything even slightly big? And by sized out do you mean you're regularly smaller than the minimum measurements? Not trying to fight, just curious as someone who has things fit a bit baggier a lot and takes mine to a tailor.

>>10678381
so alter it then? you're supposed to do that to designer clothes anyway

For reference for everyone discussing SC sizing, remember the 2009 OP had these measurements:
Bust: 88-98cm
Waist: 69-78cm

And the new one had these:
Bust: 90-102cm
Waist: 74-82cm

In order for someone to be sized out on the small end given that the shoulder width is supposedly the same, someone would have to be significantly smaller than the minimum measurements. Which are only 2cm smaller for the bus (which is a bigger deal for fit and could be harder to adjust for) and 5cm on the waist (which is easier to fix with waist ties, corset lacing, etc. and the shirring helps.

2cm difference is not exactly "sized out" and that 5cm waist difference gets made up quickly by the waistband of your bloomers and petti anyway. The biggest issue is that AP has potentially gotten the measurements wrong. Someone talked upthread about another brand having trouble with sizing and what they did to fix it. If AP really did get the sizing wrong that's an issue which bigger and smaller people alike have been trying to say.

It's not about whether the dress should fit someone big or small or not. It's about brands who sell primarily online not having accurate enough measurements for people on the top and bottom end of the size range to be able to shop with correct information. It also kind of hints at quality control concerns people have been having or suspecting with AP lately.

>>10678436
nyart, but clothing alterations are so fucking expensive in my city, i wish i could justify the cost.

>>10678439
Are you dumb? Lolita isn't designer clothes and that wasn't the argument anyway. Anon complained that they're sizing out the original customers, which they are if they're expected to alter things.

>>10678436
Nayrt, but I don't buy things new if I already know I'm going to have to alter them. I don't like when things are baggy so I basically rely on pieces with corset lacing or older pieces from when brands still catered to my size.

>>10678442
Thank you facts based anon. I agree 100%. The bigger issue is that people were advertised one thing, paid a good amount of money and waited a long time, and then were delivered a potentially incorrect item. It doesn’t matter by what metric.

Hst: If you think 2-4 cm is the difference between uwu skinny goals and landwhale you need help.

>>10678459
ayrt, how are they not designer? AP, BTSSB, Moitie, all the big names are considered designer with their high standards of materials, and craftsmanship. Same as any other designer brand? Especially at their price point too.
AP from 10 years ago used to be 70-80cm from memory, current AP barely reaches 110cm. If you want clothes to fit just alter them, what's the big deal? Altering clothing is always going to look nicer than right out the bag

>>10678466
>Especially at their price point too
Kek poorfag anon is poor. You do realize actual designer clothes are generally 1k+

>>10678467
average designer clothing ranges from $200 - $1500 anon

>>10678439
>designer clothes
first off you are thinking of couture designers. second what >>10678459 said. you are one of those idiots who thinks anything not from walmart is designer.

>>10678470
Using this logic lolita ranges from $20-1000 because wrist cuffs and socks are cheap as shit.

>>10678466
oh my god anon i feel so bad for you

>>10678466
If current day AP is designer because of it's "high standards of materials, and craftsmanship", than so is any taobao brand

>>10678476
*then

Alt fashions aren't designer. Period. Designer is nothing more than a prestige label for mainstream luxury clothing brands that have cultivated a reputation and longevity. It has nothing to do with price point or construction or anything.

>>10678476
Kek where is the lie. I’m at work rn, but I got a notice on my phone for package delivery. Will be back with measurements.

>>10678482
Vivienne Westwood has a massive alt audience and its designer.
Sure, its not a hype beast or Karen kind of lable, neither of those audience usually even know what Westwood is, but its still a designer lable.

>>10678482
>nothing more than a prestige label
>has nothing to do with price point or construction
fucking this thank you. god i am so sick of people trying to act like lolita is designer or that designer means anything at all.

>>10678503
do you really think any of that is correct? there was a time before the internet you know. VW has always been designer, and it being popular with lolita and alt fashions isn't even in the equation.

>>10678507
I'm referring to "alt fashions aren't designer" which is untrue, considering Westwood. Its been associated with alt fashion since its inception and is still true today.
I have no idea what you think "there was a time before then internet" is supposed to prove. That alt fashions started with the internet? Westwood is popular because of the internet? What does the internet have to do with Westwood, alt fashion, or designer fashion?

>>10678442
5cm is a lot when you're already under the previous measurements. Now for example, instead of 7cm larger, it's 12cm larger. That is a large difference anon.

>>10678512
Kek if you’re 7 cm under the minimum you need a sandwich and quite possibly some inpatient care Ana chan

>>10678512
If you were already under the previous measurements then you weren't sized out of a dress that fit before like people were claiming, you were too small/had trouble fitting in the original too. That's not sizing out old customers. That's just wishing the dress came in your size which it never did if you are multiple cm below the smallest measurements.

>>10678533
It’s pretty clear she just wanted to bitch about the possibility that someone a whole 2 cm larger might now be able to wear sc. Get help anon.

>>10678504
Also “designer” means a lot. You can get low end Calvin Klein shoes for $40 or their high end lines for $400. The name is in both products and that’s what you’re paying for.

I hope Candy Fairy OP also arrives smaller than described, considering AP has rocks for brains and didn't offer the JSK.

>>10678488
Measurements when, anon?

I have an update regarding the NB MTO. I previously stated the JSK is only going to be available in sax x pink. I am glad to share that AP has decided to make more colours available. Apparently, pink, red and black are coming too. The red is a bright red, it differs a lot from the darker wine shade of the original release. The pink is more on the pastel side.
Feels nice to be the bearer of good news for once.

>>10678683
You're back! Thanks for the update, I'm so excited for the red.

>>10678683
A bright red is exciting. I know it won't come until before Christmas this year but I can't wait to grab it and wear it next year. Pastel pink instead of hot pink is also awesome. Sax x pink is cute but I much prefer pink as the dominant color.

>>10678683
For what it's worth, I'm glad to see you again, prophet. You're one of my favorite things about cgl. I'm happy you don't listen to the hate, but feel free to remove yourself from all the toxic people here whenever you need to. Love you, forever.

I'll probably wind up getting the pink x sax and the pink now (if the pink really is pastel). I wish AP had listened sooner and included the JSK for Candy Fairy, but I guess we're SOL.

>>10678695
the unwarranted attacks on her were silly but there's no need to simp this hard anon

>>10678698
NTA but she’s doing us all a huge favor at her own expense. Angelic prophet is a god among gulls.

>>10678683
Oh thank fuck, this is the best news in regards to NB. I can deal with slight colour changes. Thank you prophet.

>>10678698
>simp this hard
No one is giving the prophet their credit card number. We're just expressing our appreciation

>>10678723
>>10678715

oh yeah it's definitely nice of her and i like and appreciate her dropping in but 'i love you forever' was pretty intense lol

>>10678683
Prophet's back! Thanks for the good news, I had completely given up on NB. I don't know how I feel about them changing the red yet. I don't hate the idea, at least. Also very excited that the pink is going to be more pastel.

>>10678683
So glad to you see you back, prophet-chan!! <33

>>10678683
This is great news! There's only a few months left of the year so NB announcement must be getting closer <3

>>10677062
Wow that's fucking terrible for a minimum wage job. Especially if the most recent release is hideous. No wonder they haven't found someone to fill that position.

>>10678439
Kek actual designers will alter the clothing for you by tailors in store, dumbass. Forcing a customer to spend the time and money to do it themselves is sizing them out.

>>10678466
>"high standards of materials, and craftsmanship. Same as any other designer brand"
>Shoes that come in 4 sizes
>Pleather peeling bags
>Polyester
>"High" price point
I'm fucking dying. Poorfags are so cute

>>10678939
The real reason why is because the pay converts to around $9 an hour and you have to live in Tokyo while buying a $150 dress each month. I can’t imagine that’s possible unless someone else is supporting you.

>>10679040
>. I can’t imagine that’s possible unless someone else is supporting you.

Working for AP is basically a status symbol in the lolita community. You aren’t doing it for an actual living.

>>10679041
That doesn’t mean they should pay so abysmally. Clearly it’s not that much of a status symbol because they still haven’t filled the role Kek.

>>10679050
>Clearly it’s not that much of a status symbol because they still haven’t filled the role Kek.

This sounds like poorfag cope. And yeah it’s still a status symbol. It means you are an AP insider but also that you can afford to take a shit paying job just for the label of working at AP

>>10679051
Not a cope it’s literally true. The position has been up for like 3 months now. I work in fin tech. I’m not at all impressed by the “prestige” of someone working a $9 an hour retail job.

>>10679061
Well that’s because you need the $.

>>10679062
And they need the help and can’t find any one to take it. I work for one of the most selective companies in the world kek. I am not gonna be impressed when they finally find someone to fill this crusty ass job posting. Apfags are delusional.

>>10679051
>the mental gymnastics of making a 9$ job an 'insider' 'prestige' job

Yeah I'm sure literally everyone in your life will be so impressed and supportive of your credentials of working at AP

The amount of poorfag cope ITT is peak humor material

>>10679051
Tbh a company should be embarrassed to be offering so little. Are they really that broke? The least they could do is offer the required uniforms for free. Those dresses cost the company no more than $30 landed.

>>10679064
Kek. Not Bain, McKinsey, google, gs, Facebook, Apple or Blackrock folks. The most prestigious job you can get is clearly working for angelic pretty

>>10679071
In the lolita community it is. It was even specified >>10679041 that’s what we’re talking about.

>>10679077
Even then not really. People don’t look up to you for working there. All they care about is that you spill the deets like angelic prophet. The only person I’ve known personally to work there was actually just a total poorfag barely scraping by in SF but who refused to go get a real job. She scalped bodyline on depop to make ends meet. A real model of prestige for the community.

>>10679077
I mean is it really though? Do you fawn over anyone who works at AP? Seriously, if someone told me they work at AP as a shopgirl i'd be like 'oh cool' and then think about something else.
If someone was an AP designer however i might fangirl.

>>10679088
> Do you fawn over anyone who works at AP?

She retired but tons of people fawn over Candy

>>10679087
Kek I know exactly who you’re talking about. There was a whole fiasco with the mods of our comm after she purchased a dress at a swap meet on a payment plan, then asked the person to refund some of her payments so she could make rent. She definitely was not held in high regard in our comm and ultimately got banned for scamming in the bjd community. Idk if she got fired or left AP but she worked there for at least several months.

>>10679100
>asking someone to refund payment plan payments to make rent

Ah, the prestige and glory.

>>10676553
Such a cute item. I'd like to have like that in my wardrobe. qwq

*something like that

>>10679099
You mean Candy as in the older lady in AP Harajuku? Man she was such a fucking bitch.

>>10679114
Based Candy. But I always had good experiences with her.

>>10679100
Oh I remember her. I feel bad actually she was really unhinged and people really took advantage of that to sell her shit she couldn’t afford.

I’m surprised none of the dolls collection cuts sold out. I guess it’s just not really in sync with the sweet trend? I thought for sure it would.

>>10679281
Probably because people only really wanted the accessories and the cut that was store exclusive.

>>10678533
Most people buy assuming they need some space for ease. So yes, it is sizing out of customers by changing the measurements that much. Your assumption is that increasing the high end isn't just increasing the ease for another group of customers.

>>10679321
If you were so far below the old minimum that 2-5cm in a shirred dress with corset lacing and waist ties makes it somehow soooo huge on you, they were never catering to your size to begin with. Being sized out on the small end has nothing to do with the max measurement changes, only the change to the minimum.

Stop larping as an uwu smol bean and take the L. If you don't like that fatties are wearing the same print cause you like the moral superiority of excluding them just say that. It's kinda cringe but say it. I'm like 4'11 and thin and have more issues with length than other sizing from AP so all the pretend petites or ana chan larpers are getting old and sound dumb as fuck. When stuff really doesn't fit just take it to a tailor poorfag.

>>10679342
That's my point. Before 5 cm before was no big deal. But they've added onto that for the minimum. I do fit older dresses just fine so I was part of their market before.

Also I never complained about larger sizes at all. It literally doesn't pertain to what I'm saying. Which is commenting about the fact that there are customers that are sized out with this change.

>>10679281
Because the Napoleon OP was limited to Nagoya/Shibuya and that's the cut I wanted.

>>10679355
you were not sized out because you were never sized in to begin with. you just happened to fit it based on the measurements. if you fit older dresses just fine and were not too small the 'i got sized out by this extra 2cm in the bust' is not true anyway.

ap has similar sizing on most releases but that can fluctuate between cuts and some pieces fit some people and some don't. that's not being sized in or out every release that's you having a size and the dresses having a size and picking sizes that fit or altering it.

>>10679357
This, plus these items leaning more towards mature and jewel toned sweet stuff from the 2010s than 2010s ott sweet.

>>10678683
BASED

>>10678683
Ah shucks. I had hoped you committed suicide

>>10678683
fuck off.

>>10679362
I'm not talking about the maximum or the bust. You keep insisting I wasn't sized out, but if their minimum waist has changed by 5 cm, I literally was sized out. Your original point was 5 cm could be taken up with petti and bloomers even though that was already true for the previous size.

>>10679493
Nta, but if the first release was too big for you, then you were already sized out of that one. You just need to get your clothes altered.

>>10679501
This. If it was already too big you never got sized out; it was never your size before. Just alter your clothes instead of whining and pretending that AP hates you and is catering to the every whim of fatties.

>>10679062
Lol who's coping now

>>10679068
Unfortunately, that's a normal retail/minimum wage in Tokyo, from what I've previously heard.

>>10679509
Yeah minimum wage in Tokyo was ~9$ an hour when I was there. I have to imagine they commute in from bumfuck nowhere. It’s not as expensive as people make it out to be, but $9 an hour sounds pretty slim.

>>10679542
many people also stay with their parents during college or until they're married, girls especially. not as much as in the past but people without well paying jobs almost certainly do

>>10679501
One dress having measurements that don't include mine, but fitting with included ease is normal. All the other dresses of that era are similar.

If all the modern dresses no longer fit because they've added 5 cm or more to the minimum? I'm no longer their customer. Which you still don't seem to understand. Some customers WERE sized out with this change.

>>10679641
Nah you just sound dumb to pretty much everyone else itt. The original SC is not significantly larger than other dresses in that era. If it was really 5cm more than your measurements in bust AND waist before, then other than skirts any quarter shirred thing would have also been baggy on you. I fit kid-sized clothing and have had no issues when trying on friends' SC when deciding whether or not to buy it so you sound like you're making shit up to victimize yourself.

>>10677062
God that's pathetic. America sucks ass but of the two retail jobs I've had here that required employees to wear their stuff, both provided free product on a regular basis on top of the generous employee discount.

>>10679641
kek what a victim complex. At least fatties admit it.

>>10679644
Actually when sugary carnival was first released, people were freaking out about how small it was compared to other releases of the time. Same with that and the fancy melody jsk, which was super small…

>>10679803
Oh my god, SHUT UP. Don't you have a hobby?

>>10679806
Dude, NTA but you sure sound autistic.

>>10679803
??? It was one of the most popular dresses at that time and everyone wanted it. SC resold for huge amounts back in the day. Only obese poorfags were crying about it being small to justify replicas which they would’ve bought anyway due to the “$1000 AP” meme logic they used. At the time all the talk was “what’s the next SC” and it was viewed by some as an investment they tried to flip

>>10678526
81 bust, 62 waist is totally normal if you're 5'4'' or under burger-chan

>>10679850
>81
wow, I never knew the chestlet meme was real

>>10679848
>an investment they tried to flip

Some things never change. The pre-order, like HC, is probably gonna make a lot of people some pocket cash.

>>10679851
I wish, I just have a small ribcage. Flat is justice.

>>10679644
You seem to have trouble with reading comprehension so I'm done trying to explain. Glhf

>>10679850
Wow even at my thinnest my bust was 86 cm and underbust was 70 cm, waist 650 cm weight was 43 kg at 157 cm

>>10679850
nta I'm under that height. I agree it's pretty normal to have measurements under 5'1 like that, but not really 5'3 or 5'4. I was friends with a girl that was ana and 5'4, her measurements didn't get that small but she was hella ana.

You're just likely genetically asian.

>>10679880
Sounds like you’ve got an unfortunate body type

>>10679878
being an adult woman and flat isn't really "normal" though

>>10679884
>being an adult woman and flat isn't really "normal" though

This kinda depends. Fatties with a 36D think a B cup is flat. Actually flat is uncommon though.

>>10679882
Having 60 cm waist and 86 bust looked nice on me, I wouldn't want to be flat

>>10679888
Ok that’s fine for you if it’s what you want. But tons of other people would be embarrassed desu

>>10679884
Most adult women aren't totally flat. Even an A cup isn't flat. Idk what you consider flat though. I'm a 30E and I fit lolita well enough but wish I had smaller breasts. B or c cup with my measurements would make it so I could fit almost anything I wanted.

>>10679890
That's so sad, I feel sorry for them. Where I grew up, having a larger chest was aspirational. I guess the embarrassed people also won't wanna be brickhouse-chan, huh?

>>10679897
ok but burgersland always finds it aspirational

you're talking about having a larger chest in lolita, which is absolutely not fitting.

>>10679887
>>10679894
the person i am replying to says they are flat
A cups are pretty flat

Losing some weight has meant that none of my bras fit me anymore, I must have gone down at least one cupsize and it feels amazing. The flatter I can be the better I look in lolita, but that's just my opinion.

>>10679898
Kinda, 86 is no problem a all fitting. even 90 is fine. AP mannequins are always slightly wider in the bust than their models, so AP specifically fits really nicely as long as you're not a mammary monster and have a slim waist. Not everyone likes the babydoll or empire waistlines even in lolita, and plenty of people have lives outside lolita that take precedent. Striving to be only the ideal lolita even in body type is very odd.

>>10679902
90cm you have issues with a lot of non shirred pieces. 87 to 85 is ideal for AP

>>10679881
I'm not Asian and my BMI is around 20 so definitely not ana. Guess I just got lucky. All the weight just went to my thighs.

>>10679878
You and me both anon. 71 cm ribcage and 81cm bust.

>>10679910
Same. I’m 5’5”, around a 19BMI and my bust and waist measurements are small which is ideal for AP. But I have a thicc butt and thighs. Pear shape is the ideal for lolita and I can look skinnier than I actually am because the shape of lolita hides where I carry my weight.

>>10679910
>All the weight just went to my thighs.

Being pear shaped is the next best thing to being uber thin in lolita. Your hips give a little extra poof and your chest is smaller.

>>10679806
Wtf is your problem?

>>10679806
clearly lolita IS their hobby. why are you mad exactly

>>10679850
if you're a completely flat chested asian girl then sure, it's normal. women of other races tend to have actual breasts even without being overweight

>>10680173
Asian women aren't the only ones with smaller boobs. Tons of women are petite or smaller framed and have proportionally small boobs. Tons of women have "masculine" body types and have fridge bodies or less boob. Tons of women are fat with small boobs. Society shames them or encourages them to fake bigger boobs with padded and push up bras and stuff to appear more stereotypically sexy or feminine but they exist in not unreasonable quantities.

Please don't try to make this an uwu azn girl race thing.

>>10680184
That anon is probably a scrote or an NLOG.

>>10680184
Careful anon. This board is so paranoid nowadays they'll call any woman that doesn't look like a cartoon blow up doll a troon.

>>10680205
Kek this is the irony of extreme transphobia. It always strikes back at cis women who just happen to be taller, broader shouldered, or flat chested. Just look at gymnasts or power lifters at the Olympics. They’re all cis women except one, and any one of them could be attacked online for people assuming they’re trans.

>>10680231
This is /cgl/, I'm not sure what the fuck you expected

>>10680231
People using it as a broad insult to unfeminine cis women are not radfem TERFs. They're just shitheads. Lots of radfems are butch specifically because they promote being GNC without being a troon

>>10680251
I get what you're saying but tons of radfem TERFs are the types to at first glance assume a masculine bodied but otherwise feminine presenting or even deep voiced woman is trans not as an insult but because they are trying to sniff or root out any "TIMs" and get rid of them and they just end up harming cis women too. I personally dgaf about trans people and hold them to the same standard of behavior as anyone else though. Don't be cringe, creepy, or concerning in any way and you're good.

I just want to read about AP updates. Take the radfem/ana bullshit to the farm, for fucks sake.

>>10680260
No

>>10679848
Ok noob

>>10680260
Maybe if AP actually knew what days they wanted to update, we could talk about it.
Also this is why I liked prophet-chan, she'd drop hints of the new release early so there was less of a lull in things to discuss.

New releases are up, feels pointless to dump so close to autosage, not a very exciting week anyway

>>10680768
It all sucks anyways

>>10680769
I was excited until I saw tweed polyester. I don't mind chiffon or even viyella but tweed shouldn't be plastic.

>>10680768
I feel like I have shit taste, but I really like this release and think it's super cute

>>10680771
You're right. Fuck the oil industry for getting their dirty hands into everything.

>only 5 posts in thread about this week's new release
AP has hit a new low.

>>10680768
Dress is cute but hate the ears

>>10680768
I'm so conflicted. I told myself I'd maybe buy this one and that damned ribbon dress and honestly...

I'd rather go buy an older release. These just really aren't hitting it for me.

Has anyone NOT gotten their Sugary Carnival from AP USA ye? I checked the website and my order doesn't seem to have been shipped out yet.

>>10681022
i love the ears and hate the dress lol

>>10681074
I haven't gotten mine either. I've only gotten my OTKs from Paris. AP USA is probably just taking their time.

>>10681074
I haven't even received the shipping email yet.

>>10681074
I wonder what the odds of AP USA listing extras is after they finish shipping out the MTO orders. My MTO from Japan might be lost, and I'd buy back-ups in a heartbeat.

>>10681074
I'm also waiting. I'm so jealous of the girls who got their dresses already.

>>10681074
I haven't received mine yet

I really wish AP would re release the half-aprons again. wishing for a mint colorway

>>10681536
I want a cotton half-apron. The tulle ones are cute, but not for me.

>>10682185
I meant organdy, don't come for me.

Never seen the AP general so far down. Predictions for this week’s release?

>>10682779
Something very boring that won't sell out

>>10682779
iirc we have the leopard print left in the lookbook and 2 nonprints. my guess is we'll get a nonprint this week, leopard next week, last nonprint & maybe the next lookbook week after next.

>>10682796
I expect them to release the outerwear collection before the new lookbook.

I'm so excited for SC. Everytime I get a new email my heart skips a beat cause I think it might be the AP USA shipping email. I think by the time I get the actual email I'll just get a heart attack and die instantly.

>>10682809
>imagining the skip your heart will take if they cancel your order
kek

Have anyone else experienced more problems than usual with AP regarding orders and quality control? I still haven't received my Fall Lookbook and my MTO had a blue ink stain on it...

>>10682779
I doubt anything interesting. Luckily our wallets can take a break desu

>>10682969
I bought some sale items and the socks I got also had a blue ink stain. Pics? Where did you buy yours from?

>>10682962
Don't say that anon I'll disintegrate on the spot

>>10682809
I hope you get it! I just got the original SC and it’s so fucking cute in person. The mto is gonna look amazing and you’ll be so happy. No wonder it was so iconic it’s absolutely sending me

>>10682969
Was it the Sugary Carnival MTO? Can you post a picture of it?

Recent quality control issues I've had with AP:
>black/blue mark on Candy Border OTKs
>snagged/torn satin bow on the recent Lyrical Face pochette
>uneven mouth embroidery on the goodnight bunny bag
>random defective heart button with bubbles in it
>in general the OTKs are getting less stretchy and more stiff

>>10682969
The cotton used for the MTO is terrible. It has small lumps that can't be removed because it'll ruin the print.

>>10683324
The sugary carnival MTO? I got mine and it was pretty well made.

>>10683324
Maybe I'm stupid, but what do you mean by small lumps? Is the fabric bumpy? Are there "knots" in the weave? Kinda makes me nervous cause I dropped a lot of money on the MTO just to have non-faded dresses.

>>10683373
What do you think, genius?

>>10683378
Yes, whatever factory made the fabric did it as cheap as possible.

>>10683414
That's messed up. Now I'm really nervous to get mine. I hadn't heard anyone say the fabric was crap until now.

>>10683322
Didnt someone also get a HC bow recently that had the chocolate bottle showing on the side?

>>10683414
>what do you think genius
Bitch there were a few MTOs, too bad yours had weird balls kek. Mine was fine though.
Sucks to be you.

New release page isn't up yet, but the top image has been uploaded: http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/newarrival/2021/1009/1009_slide.jpg

Looks like we're getting Waffle Heart

>>10683897
Damn, what's with all the pouches and notebooks? Who is asking for these kek

Please jesus, no one buy these shit bags. I don't know why AP is re-releasing them. The quality is terrible and they weren't that popular the first time around.

>>10683897
sameanon, but following up now that the release page is available: http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/newarrival/index_20211009.htm

Looks like there's a change where they now post the individual product pages early ("詳細はこちら" links)

Good change on their part, although I will miss the mild advantage I might have had of guessing the url early and refreshing until it went live.

>>10683915
Jesus $150 for this dollar store trash.

Also those berets look cute in the pics but I have to imagine they didn’t show them on a model because they’ll look wonky af.

>>10683938
I still regret wasting money on mine and I'm just waiting for a swap meet to try and get rid of it.
All new AP plush is cursed.

I bought the Happy Garland notebook and pouch to cope with the fact I prioritized other releases at the time the print was released kek. But this week sure was a sleeper as well.

New thread (that new thread creator failed to link to): >>10684189