/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

"Drama" is a retarded tag. "News" should be enough to cover it. No one wants to doxx themselves with coord pics and then engage in drama, and I'm tired of this high school bullshit anyway.

>>10678911
Good point. Removed. Do you think there's anything obvious missing that I haven't covered?
Also, how should I be vetting potential mods? I was thinking of asking for their LM so I can see how long they've been active and if they have a history of scamming, but at the same time I don't want users to feel like I'm gearing up to doxx them.

Fair play to you for trying OP but it might well become a hugbox given that people will have consistent usernames anyway

Immediate ban for anyone using the word "body positive".

>>10678917
ban fatties

No 'no concrit' posts ever

>>10678916
It's possible, but I think with careful modding we can keep it from turning into another r/Lolita. Comments on private subreddits can only be seen on your profile by other members of those subreddits - so petty Facebook itas won't be able to see you posting in r/elegantgothiclolita. I think it's definitely worth a shot, anyway. The thing about Reddit is that it doesn't use real names like Facebook, and that's the major hugbox and where you're most likely to get cancelled. Instagram is not so bad.
>>10678917
kek
>>10678918
That is one thing I won't do. I want fatty-chans to see good coords from thin girls so they have motivation to lose weight. I've seen plenty of gulls post about how good coords motivated them to work out so that they could fit into brand. I will make it a rule that there's to be no whining that AP won't fit your 150cm bust, though. Call it "no whining about things that will never change" or something so we can still bitch about the lack of a Candy Fairy JSK in the MTO. AP listened to us on the NB colourways, so complaining about that should be allowed.

Follow up question: what do you all think about the topic of concrit? My initial thought was to make it mandatory i.e. no posting without a petti and yelling "NO CONCRIT"

>>10678920
No 'no concrit' posts but you can choose the level of sugarcoating. Sometimes I really need someone to say "this looks bad, take it off" instead of "I would change X to Y" and sometimes I need it vice versa

Ban people for questions like is devilinspired legit or how do I ordered from toaboa

>>10678922
Perfect. I'm thinking three levels: give it to me straight, sugarcoat it a little (i.e. find alternative options for OP), and hugbox me (spoonfeed where to find things and compliment the decent parts of the coord so they don't get discouraged).

>>10678924
Bet. I mean, there is a stupid questions thread, but I'll definitely warn people (and then ban for a second offence) if they refuse to read the wiki. I'm working on it right now. I have no idea how to use html or markdown so it looks like shit, but hopefully my Google-fu will get me through. What should I put in the FAQ and useful links? I've got the Taobao dictionary and store spreadsheet, Lacemarket, and Lolibrary.

Oh, totally no "let's rename lolita" posts

For the FAQ
1)how to tell if a piece of clothes is lolita
2)shein is a big no no
3)the amazon dress and replica problems
4)sewing sources without simplicity patterns
5)buying secondhand guide

And please ban posts like "I have ordered this dress and I don't know how to co-ord it please do it for me"
Buy something you can work with, bitch

What standard are you holding people to as proof? Is some ita going to get in with witch shoes and a small Claire's clip in her hair? I can understand people joining who want to improve, but I'm wondering how much leeway you'll allow for that.

Also don't do anything dumb like ban fatties or troons. As much as I fucking hate them, I don't want my comm cancelling me just for being associated with it.

>>10678931
Thanks.

>>10678933
If you look like you've just come from the ita thread, I'm not letting you in. I don't expect full brand coords, I just want the basic components to be there and to look like you at least tried to make it cohesive. I will make it clear why someone got denied, though.

I'm only planning to ban people who repeatedly break the rules or are outed as sissies. I don't have a hateboner for fatties or trans people and I don't want anyone who hates them modding for me, either. This idea might crash and burn, but sane mods will keep us going longer. I like cgl, but I love my comm and I don't want anyone to be cancelled or ostracised.

Something else I was worrying about: how will I know if someone's stolen a photo and passed it off as their own? I'm thinking the solution is to write your Reddit username on a piece of paper and take a photo of it on top the dress you wore in the coord shot. If anyone's got a better idea I'd appreciate it. I've never run a subreddit before, although I do run a large (400ish people) discord.

>>10678937
I assume flat lays be okay by you for as coording proof? With Reddit username on paper nearby and such

>>10678940
Yes, that's fine, as long as all the components are there (so no missing shoes). Or full body shots with the face covered are fine too.

Do you advertise the new subreddit only on cgl?

>>10678951
Yep, just here on cgl. Facebook is too hugboxy, r/Lolita will take offence at the fact that we're making another sub when that one already exists, and Twitter is full of people who don't understand lolita and will brigade it because they think we're ageplayers. I don't know about Instagram but I do see a lot of ita shit in the egl tags so I think it's best to just keep it to this site.

I'm hoping it'll spread through word of mouth. Tell the chill girls in your comms about it, if you could. Try to keep it quiet so that we don't get hit with an influx of itas. Fatties and tranners are absolutely welcome. We are not getting cancelled if I can help it. I'm not going to tolerate anyone shitting on people for their weight - saying something gently is okay, but "kys hamplanet" is getting removed.

>>10678954
I'd rather you advertise to other places so I don't have to admit I use 4chan this often. Your rules would prevent those types from fucking shit up.

>>10678957
Do you have some recommendations as to where I should talk about this sub? I'm going to PM a nice Instagrammer with a decent following. I don't want to piss people off, I just want to make a community that isn't overrun with toxicity or newbies who don't know how to google.

>>10678959
I think you should advertise it on Facebook. Though I'm not sure which groups would allow you to advertise your budding rival community. I think Facebook itas are much more manageable than Reddit, twitter, or (god forbid) YouTube itas. On Facebook you usually have to wear the fashion to join a bunch of those groups. The other platforms tend to have a lot of unvetted LARPers

>>10678961
I've sent a message to the admins of a big lolita group. And a couple Instagram accounts. I've only had one response so far, but it was positive! I'm really nervous about the Facebook admins... I've never talked in that group, but I did submit a coord to get verified.

Can you also advertise it on r/gothfashion and r/gothicstyle?

>reddit
Here is your problem.

I'm not trans/gay/whatever, I just like pretty dresses sometimes, I don't want to be a girl or make a statement or anything of that nature, and I only select and wear clothes that work with my body, and let's be frank, it's a better fit on me than a large portion (no pun intended) of the girls I see posting online. I also know I'm not alone in this regard, would people like me be banned from entry? I don't mind too much of that's the case, I'd just sooner save my effort applying if it's going to be a problem.

>>10679013
Realistically, because you're asking the question, then probably. My guess is you're an incel creep.

A lot of us really just want to be around other girls.

>>10679013
you know, your case would be a lot stronger if you didn’t just insult a “large portion” of women lol. way to be disgusting without even trying.

>>10679013
read the thread faggot, OP already said moids are welcome

>>10678910
Instant ban for moids or troons

>>10679028
This is another problem with guys in lolita.

>>10679030
>OP already said moids are welcome
So the subreddit will be full of scrotes lurking and masturbating to us and is trash before it even took off.

>>10679005
a vetted sub should be fine honestly, the platform itself matters a lot less when you're not a public group.

>>10678937
adding on to the previous anon's FAQ suggestion, providing a list of off site guides (such as the petticoat shape resource i've seen linked around before) might save you some work.

>>10679013
honestly impressive how quickly you made a case against yourself

>>10679030
The fact he refuses to read and just asked to make things about himself and shit on girls wearing the clothes is the exact reason I wish moids weren't allowed unless invited (as an unspoken rule so we don't get stupid boys whining about how women are sexist). Men who inject themselves into online lolita spaces are rarely doing it for good reasons. I can't remember any male lolitas who posted online beyond the dude from deerstalker and a couple Asian ones that were ever both good at coording and not off-putting or concerning in some way.

Fuck off, OP. No one wants your gross ass making a sub, especially when you quit the mentoring server for ~dysphoria~. You have no place doing this.

>>10679043
Now it makes sense why moids are allowed kek

>>10679039
i think making it an unofficial rule would be a better way of handling it than explicitly banning men, it wouldn't even shock me if the tism squad on reddit got the sub deleted for reverses sexism or something if they made it an official thing

>>10679043
Hahaha jesus christ I was thinking about joining but paired with the fact that op’s letting men into the subreddit, nevermind

>>10679043

>>10679043
big oof..................


why the fuck do we have so many 'specials.'

>>10679043
You are a piece of shit for doxxing the person

Op, your subreddit is going to be cool, don't delete it or something. Don't listen to the cgl bitches.

>>10679057
That’s not doxxing

>>10679043
kek

>>10678910
Okay but you first, I'm not showing you any of my coords unless you're an actual lolita first and not some scrote gathering shit for his spank bank.

The number of posters being so low says a lot about the vendetta in this thread. Pathetic honestly.

>>10679069
damn gurl, take a bath.. your hair is oily AF.

>>10679105
I think we just ***really*** don't like gender specials. It's probably the worst idea to try to create something for cgl, if you're a gender special.

Like, the absolute worst.

It's almost as if OP didn't read the majority of threads and/or isn't actually a fucking gull to realize that?

>>10679109
Kek “we”. As in the 2 people on this thread who keep reposting the same stale crap. It’s not normal to be this bothered anon. Get help.

>>10679111
>As in the 2 people on this thread who keep reposting the same stale crap. It’s not normal to be this bothered anon

You’re new as fuck if you think the overwhelming opinion on this site and this board isn’t that genderspecials and troons should get the rope

>>10679112
This.

I'm none of the anons above, but yes keep thinking that. We've not liked troons for a while. Seriously. You know who needs help? People with mental disorders like you, anon. You don't fit in here, so I'm not sure why you think you're really going to lead other gulls. :)

>>10679117
Forgot to quote >>10679111


fuck troons and their backward gymnastics. gulls don't like troons. it's not just 2 people either.

>>10679111
>As in the 2 people
>>10679112
>>10679117
Kekekekekekek

>>10679043
>i want to look like a man in a dress
just browse the MTF subreddit for inspo OP

>>10679122
Seethe, newfag

>>10679122
Still just 18 posters you guys. Do better. At least break out your computers to bump, unless of course you’ve already done that. Once again, it’s pathetic.

>>10679126
We literally don't need more gender specials, safe place warriors, or confused ita acceptance fuckheads to be running a community.

You've already failed before you started with this reddit. No gull is going to accept you and no external lolita is going to feel safe. Gulls do not like troons, lolitas do not like gulls.

You're a fucking idiot and obviously brand spanking fucking new to lolita AND this board, quite obviously.

No one is going to join.

>>10679130
Oh looks like you broke out the backup laptop kek.

>>10679132
At least pay attention to the way people write before trying to claim samefag, you moron. I guess this goes to show that troons are fucking idiots and delusional. The very community you wanted to join, rejects you.

… soooo… troon hate thread?

>waaaaaah why are people calling my gaping surgical wound a wound and not a pussy?!

>>10679132
just take the L and go.
Reminder you'll never be a man btw, just a self loathing, oily, fugly woman :^)

>>10679134
Time stamps and content are way more indication. Plus you posted right after on the rvr thread. Sad. The least you could do is draw your posts out so it’s less obvious. Now who’s the newfag?

>>10679135
nice try to nuke your own thread bc you can't bear getting caught you autist kek what a pussy

OP mad they got outed as a newbie troon kek

reddit is cancer. always be immediately suspicious of random person(s) with 0 credibility or proof of skill that wants to run a shiny special new vetted group. they're only doing it because they can't make it in the already established vetted groups

>>10679135

>>10679136
Still just 19 posters. Guess you ran out of ip. No one cares as much as you anon. Get some therapy. Maybe then you can find the courage to transition yourself instead of just shutting on anybody else.

>>10679138
I’m not Op I’m
>>10679031
>>10679033

>>10679139
Exactly. Reddit is 100% cancer and most actual 4channers dislike reddit.

Been this way forever, OP. You outed yourself as a newfag to lolita AND 4chan.

>>10679142
>why are you calling yourself a lesbian if you’re only attracted to biological women?

The amount of delusion in all trannies is enough to warrant institutionalizing them. They are a danger to themselves and others.

>>10679144
Yeah why the fuck would anyone join some newfag subreddit. There's already r/lolita for this fuck. Stay there.

>>10679142
I’m not OP I’m just pointing out that whenever this comes up it’s always a few people flooding the threads who I doubt have anything to do with the Lolita community beyond shitting up the boards. No one gives a fuck.

>>10679148
I didn’t say you were OP retard. Someone said I was OP. This thread is going to get deleted since someone posted OP’s FB so why not dump some troon hate?

>>10679144
r/Lolita is the ita pit because only itas use reddit

any good lolita will eventually find their way into the better vetted groups, the ones OP wasn't let into because they're an ita themselves

>>10679043
Welp I'm out. A transfat.

Y’all need some serious therapy and some real ambition in life. God this is so cringe.

>>10679149

>>10679043
Hilarious that you don’t want to be seen as a confused cis girl, when that’s exactly what you are

>>10679135
>>10679140
>>10679146
>>10679142
>>10679149
somehow this much effort into hating troons is just as cringe as troons themselves

can you stop dumping irrelevant shit you're going to get the thread nuked

thread needs to stay up so people know not to join this ita's reddit

>>10679158
>posting an image dump is the same as mutilating yourself

Kek. Delusional.

>>10679159
>thread needs to stay up so people know not to join this ita's reddit

I think people know not to go to reddit for lolita shit and if they do they're probably itas anyway.

>>10679159
Newfag. The threads gonna get deleted. It was the moment someone posted the Facebook SSs. We can post OP to the farm and it’ll stay up there.

>>10679159
We’re long past that anon. These retards are obviously scrote trolls and dgaf about the Lolita community

>>10679161
i mean it's still pretty fucking weird you have all of this saved don't get me wrong i hate them too but spending this much time dumping tranny h8 is a sperg move

And this thread makes a perfect case for why any new lolita thing will probably fail. OP made an attempt at a new space and in less than 50 posts gulls found them and found some random shit to sperg out. This is why we can't have nice things.
I honestly wish OP and anyone trying to make a new space success, but I'll probably be holding off on joining any new groups until they've proven they have respectability and staying power within the community.

>>10679166
Closeted trans spotted kek. That’s not normal.

>>10679165
>These retards are obviously scrote trolls and dgaf about the Lolita community

Imagine being this new to not know that the lolita community has a long history of shitting on troons, men, and sissies, and that it’s only been in recent years that we’ve allowed them to infiltrate our community.

>>10679164
this is fucking psycho. im all for abortion rights but holy fuck who would want to surgically implant a uterus into yourself and get pregnant just so you can go through the pain and discomfort and emotional difficulty of an abortion on purpose? if trans women want to naturally birth babies uterus transplants don't sound much crazier than ivf if they were possible but this person is either joking or nuts

>>10679163
there's enough posts expressing interest in joining the new reddit in this thread and the rufflechat one though

>>10679163
>>10679165
true but still the images add nothing to the discussion

>>10679169
“Our community”

Kek. This board is the closest you’re gonna get to any community of any kind you sad sad piece of shit.

Time to learn more about her at the farms. Can’t wait to see her ita trash coords

>>10679167
this is not a case of someone making something new. they were a weird ita making an ita subreddit and just like the other fb coords group the people spearheading new social places for lolitas are always two faced and creepy or itas.

things that are practical or entertainment focused with a real benefit to the community are often subject to undue hate but in this case it's well deserved. not cause they're trans but because they're fucking weird and ita.

>>10679167
This. To be fair 90% of this board is the same sperge closeted trans retard.

>>10679167
if you think that this idiots new subreddit would be a "nice thing" you're beyond help

>>10679172
Stop projecting.

>>10679167
>OP made an attempt at a new space
OP wanted control over a vetted lolita space while being a complete 0-coords newbie because they were kicked out or ragequit out of the already established ones

>>10679179
wait, really? She doesn’t have a single coord? I am actually insulted by her ego

>>10679182
Same.

>>10679179
she’s fucking delusional if she thinks we’re all going to allow some LARPer to be the judge of our coords

Can a normal ACTUAL Lolita just steal her idea please

>>10679192
No one who's going to make a lolita subreddit is going to be normal lol

>>10679194
No one who wants to be a mod and open themselves up to scrutiny is going to be normal.

>>10679192
>Can a normal ACTUAL Lolita just steal her idea please
Kek. Did you not read this thread? No one in their right mind would subject themselves to this crap.

OP is delusional to think they can run a gull led subreditt. Obviously new to this board and lolita.

You really fucked your capability to be accepted by the normal hug box community that actually likes larpers, itas, and troons.

>>10678920
>AP listened to us on the NB colourways
>"listened to us"
Did you just find out about lolita yesterday? AP does not give a fuck about the opinions of western gulls and they never even revealed colorway options during the MTO announcement other than the preview colorway. Nothing will ever have to do with "listening to us" how new are you?

>>10679211
Not OP but they made MTOs for honey called in whale sizes because they know American fatties love it. I don't think that print was add popular in Japan

>>10679214
Did you have a stroke writing this?

>>10679215
Autocorrect

*Honey cake
**was as popular

>>10679105
do you even know what the word vendetta means? You created this fucking thread and you were the one who reached out to people. You did this all to yourself. Lurk more before you LARP.

>>10679126
>>10679132
>>10679141
>>10679154
And stop WKing yourself. It’s embarrassing. Your humiliation is entirely warranted.

>>10679167
Anon, she isn't even a Lolita. Why would you want to join a Lolita comm moderated by someone who doesn't even wear the clothing?

Frankly, her lack of self awareness is actually mind-blowing. To openly criticize LARPers when she herself is one takes a whole nother level of narcissism.

>>10679233
NTA but >>10679112 isn't wrong. There's only 22 anons in this thread and it's clearly the same person posting on their phone and laptop in 2 message bursts. Clearly they've got some fucking problems if they spend their days circle jerking to their own messages on such an unpopular thread.

>>10679241
This thread was actually pretty popular despite the idea being dumb up until the person who wanted to make the subreddit was outed as someone who doesn't even wear the clothes.

>>10679243
Oops, meant to reply to >>10679242

Genuinely wondering what the point of a lolita subreddit would be, we already have /cgl/

>>10679243
>popular
>only 22 posters, not even counting the clear trolls who were multi-posting

it really wasn't anon.

>>10679233
Agreed.

It's pretty fair to say the OP has no experience on this board or lolita to have brought so much of this on themselves.

Little do they also know, this shit is going to follow them like they stepped in dog shit for the rest of their lolita career.

>>10678910
Hey. Welcome to the lolita community, OP. We're not samefags. We just *really* don't like outsiders.

>>10679243
don't confuse activity with popularity. Popular threads clear 100 individual posters, and often go much higher. A thread getting bumped is often just a spat between two trolls, see above.

>>10679242
OP, I've been in meetings all day. So you can keep thinking it's 1 or 2 people as much as you want, but you'll soon notice that the majority of the lolita community don't like u. This shit is going to spread, because lolis love some drama and boy are you a lolcow. You literally outted yourself and sperged all over the board, so yes. It's *going to follow you*

>>10679246
The only "benefit" to a subreddit for lolita is that the lack of total posy anonymity might make people less inclined to be aggressive with one another, would prevent larping/samefagging when arguments break out, and I guess there could be some reference stuff for people too dumb or lazy to Google/check the archives?

But none of the potential supposed benefits are enough to make me want to make a reddit account or use it over cgl when the anon shenanigans (and privacy) and some of the board culture is kind of part of why cgl is fun and easy to use. It was redundant and clearly just the attempted creator trying to have power or influence in a space full of lolitas when they themselves don't wear it and were ostracized from other groups for that.

They were honestly better off larping as a lolita on cgl.

>>10679251
Someone make a post on the farms before this gets deleted.

>>10679251
kek I'm not even OP. but sure jan. Hope that's a meeting with your psychiatrist to adjust your meds.

>>10679251
NTA but OP obvs doesn't know even the most basic pieces of cgl culture, on account of not actually being a lolita at all and clearly not understanding how these boards work. There's obviously a ton of trolling in here and you took the bait. cry about it.

>>10679252
I'm for the idea of anonymity but not post anonymity. Like if we could ID samefagging without any doubt this thread would be totally barren.

>>10679247
cgl is a super dead board, 22 posters in a thread made today about creating a different lolita platform that's not anonymous on cgl of all places is pretty good. And the discussion started in a different thread on top of that.

>>10679254
>your psychiatrist to adjust your meds.
Maybe you should stop using the same spiel as all your other posts, you fucking moron. It's really not that hard to see your samefagging through the thread.

PS. Projecting your mental illness isn't helping you, lolilarper-anon

>>10679259
>Maybe you should stop using the same spiel as all your other posts
oh the irony retard-chan. The irony.

>>10679257
This would clear up a lot. I wouldn't tie my real name/details to a reddit account but you could still see a trail of comments linked to individual anon accounts.

>>10679250
Even the AP thread is under 80 posters. Unless it's a feels thread where male and female gulls are arguing a lot lolita dominant threads on this board aren't necessarily always going to have a lot of posters.

>>10679261
80 posters is still nearly 4x this thread. I guess people just have a lot of time on their hands and no chill.

>>10679260
that can already be done voluntarily on an individual basis here. just use a trip.

honestly most people on cgl aren't trolling or samefagging the majority of the time in your average lolita threads. people just like to think they are because they hate the idea that multiple people could ever have and express a different thought than them.

>>10679260
Dude. No one wants your dumb ass to control everything. Go use CoF or r/lolita where you belong.

>>10679264
>honestly most people on cgl aren't trolling or samefagging the majority of the time in your average lolita threads. people just like to think they are because they hate the idea that multiple people could ever have and express a different thought than them.
This right here. OP has never been on this board and it shows.

>>10679268
Exactly. This whole site is shitposting 99% of the time.

>>10679261
true, but other threads that are more sane and lolita specific, like the dream dress thread have routinely 180-250 posters. I guess it's because actual lolitas tend to avoid these kinds of threads.

>>10679283
The amount of posts literally equates to nothing, you fucking autist.

>>10679294
Posters =/ number of posts you retard.

>>10679264
>honestly most people on cgl aren't trolling or samefagging the majority of the time
Nta but I disagree. There's a lot of people talking to themselves on here.

>>10679252
>>10679252
honestly while i hate reddit users, it’s much easier to navigate than here (tho maybe that’s bc i don’t use 4chan much at all and only for this board). like i can’t find any old diy threads except the recent one, whereas on reddit it’s easy enough to find old threads with tons of useful info.
that said i don’t trust that op isn’t just trying to get lolita photos for coomer reasons. i’d like a private functional lolita community without the hugboxing and general tiktok/twitter/etc hyperprogressive dumbassery, but with the way this thread went down i’d rather just stick with old livejournal and lurking the few actually good communities.

>>10679326
learn to use the archive and you will have an easier time

>>10679313
You quite literally cannot gauge how many posters there were, you fucking moron. This is why you sound like a fucking autist, trying to "gauge posters" via post count.

Holy shit can you get any more stupid, OP

>>10679326
I’d ask you to name drop said LJ communities but I don’t want to invite the plague rats.

>>10679323
Stop bumping your shit thread, while posting the same shit over and over. If you're going to samefag and constantly whine about "samefags" it just really outs you, autist-larper-ita-at-heart-chan

>>10679330
Kekekekek I’m dying you could not be more of a newfag. You do realize it’s literally posted on the board how many posters there are right?

>>10679330
>Holy shit can you get any more stupid
Hoisted by your own petard eh?

>>10679338
>>10679333
Stop. Bumping. This. Shitty. Thread.

>>10679214
>B-but muh poly hc
Ah yes, one slightly accurate example over the decades.

They did not announce the larger sizing until after the first wave of MTOs already had orders and it was 1 cut, 2 colorways in the nastiest poly. Also, the original cotton was selling for a lot on Eastern sites as well, not just the West.

"Ap listened to us" is one of the stupidest things I have ever read on here, but it's not surprising considering the OP was outed as not even being in the fashion.

>>10679330
This comment is exactly why no one should take people seriously on these boards. Everyone acts like they're experts (including OP) until they make a stupid post like this which reveals that they actually don't know much of anything about cgl as a board, or even the basic tools and functions of this site.

>>10679339
Sorry OP.

>>10679329
nta but the archive still sucks to navigate.

>>10679344
>Ap listened to us
Exactly. The only time I can think of when AP "listened" was when they stopped selling certain shoe items because they heard that westerners would rather buy cheap SS replicas.

>>10679329
yeah i’ve been trying to figure it out. might be my lack of tech skills but it seems really clunky honestly, as far as searching for specific threads anyway.

Everything aside, I think this thread is a great example of why cgl is best perused quietly/anonymously and why making some kind of exclusive group drawing participants from THIS board is a terrible idea.
A lot of people here are either batshit nuts or just really not good people.
May ideas like these rest in peace.

>>10679371
First problem was advertising a reddit thread on 4chan. You will get the same if not even more hate on other boards here.

>>10679111
"We" as in basically everyone else besides you. Genderspecials and troons are mentally ill and insufferable to be around.

>>10679371
That's why people told her to advertise on Facebook. I think it would be a good idea if just created as the next livejournal, not some kind of /cgl/ lite. The only big issue is that she herself was a fucking LARPer, so having her vet itas is insane.

>>10679376
>>10679373
Agreed 2 both

Keep the terf posting coming, I'm building a collection.

>>10679403
aaaw, are you going to cry to ruffle chat about the lolita community taking a stand against creeps being twansphobic? Poor you!

>>10679406
No offense anon, but your vitriol is cringe. Go outside and see the fall leaves drifting to the floor. Breathe.

>>10679409
>outside
>floor
anon is terminally inside the house

that said you’re not wrong

>>10679403
>complaining about women being upset about men being in a fashion that women created as a place to escape the male gaze and patriarchal attitudes

Maybe get off cgl and take a hard look at yourself and think about why you, as a man, feel it's so critical that you not only invade women's spaces, but then complain when you're not accepted with open arms.

> nb4 b..but anon I'm a woman!! I transitioned!!

You're not. No matter how much surgery you have you will still have an xy chromosome, those hulking shoulders, and adam's apple. You will always read as male, and you will always be a male. Dilate and cope.

>>10679591
Cope harder. Males have been in and around Lolita since the early days. Sorry you hate penises so much.

>>10679406
>>10679591
I was serious, I'm building a collection. If trannies want to call us terfs for every tiny thing so be it. I wear the name proudly.

>>10679599
You don’t even go here.

>>10679615
I didn't want to sit with you anyway.

>>10679596
>Males have been around Lolita since the early days.

Keyword here is "around" not "in".

The top models are still women, the fashion is still made primarily for women. The only male who has ever been popular in the fashion is Mana, and at least he doesn't claim to be something he's not.

Have fun groveling to men, sweetie, I'm sure they'll love your pick-me bullshit.

I would join a lolita vetted subreddit if it had different content than the already existing 4chan, facebook, and insta things- the problem is that I feel like we don't really have that much to talk about that hasn't been said before, and that's why I'm not currently active in social circles atm.

That being said, if the things other anons are saying about you are true OP, please don't make a subreddit for lolita. Not only are you new and need experience if this is true, but it would probably deter anyone from joining the community knowing it is not run by someone with experience.

I hate to discourage you when lolitas are notoriously picky, but this is something that won't slide with most people, let alone just lolitas. Coming into a space you don't know about and trying to lead a community is a very bad idea.

Oh god, OP here. I went to bed and when I came back the thread had imploded. I probably shouldn't try to defend myself when you've found my Facebook, but I'm going to anyway because I'm retarded. I do wear the fashion. Not daily, but I've been to meetups and I'm active in my local comm. I thought that qualified me to do this. I haven't had anyone come up to me and tell me to fuck off for being ita, and I check my coords with a more experienced lolita before I wear them out so I figured I was fine. I genuinely don't know where the "has 0 good coords/0 coords at all" came from.
The tranner accusations are true. I am in the process of switching from lolita to ouji. Anyway, now that you've posted my Facebook the thread is probably going to be deleted.

>>10679628
I definitely need more experience. I've only been in the fashion two years and only started going to meetups in 2021. I just thought it would be fine if a relative newbie started it and then recruited more experienced girls to help. No one else was bothering to do it.

>>10679652
girl no one is going to tell you to fuck off for being an ita irl even if you are an ita
lolitas are SPINELESS
the worst they'll do is shit talk/post you here which appears to have already been done

>>10679652
Yeah i mean you had the holy mother of things that gulls generally don’t like
>tranny
>no coords on social media probably, i’m not bothering to doxx you to check

You probably could have gotten away with it if you were just a newbie but yeah it wasn’t gonna work out with the tranny thing

>>10679660
Fair enough. I'm not going to post my face here because some of you are batshit, but I will post a coord if people want.

>>10679662
I have some coords on social media, but they're all private. I got into all the big Facebook groups that require coord shots, so I don't know why gulls are melting down. My coord shots are group photos and I'm not posting other people's faces here, but I can make a collage or flatlay of the coords I already have if people want to verify that I actually wear the fashion.

As for the tranny stuff, there's not much I can do about that except transition quietly and become an ouji accessory instead of a man in a dress.

>>10679652
>>10679664
Why the hell did you think it was a good idea to come to /cgl/ about a reddit thread? I haven't seen your Facebook nor do I care to but you kids these days I swear. Do not post anything else of yourself here as a safety to yourself because while the gulls won't do anything the men here most likely will. You can be a man in a dress, you don't have to be a woman to do that but trans and men piss off gulls because of all the shitty ones that have bothered them for years from all fronts. Enjoy your clothes, lurk more, and don't do anything to prove us right about men and trans people.

>>10679664
actually interested on what you think your best coord is
what styles do you like to wear?

>>10679664
just because you got into a big fb group that requires coord shots doesn't mean the coords are good. i'm not saying you dress terribly because i don't know what you dress like, but that's what it looks like to people currently.
i am not sure it's smart to add fuel to the fire by posting yourself here. i think the tranny hurdle is the biggest one. you'd be fine doing ouji and attending meets .but i think being in charge of a subreddit group wasn't gonna fly here unfortunately

>>10679673
My favourite coord uses Magical Artefact in navy. I love that JSK. I lean gothic but Magical Artefact is more classic imo, I tried to style it in a more gothic way but I'm not sure I pulled it off. Second favourite is Nevermore, I know some people think Lady Sloth is ita but I actually really like some of their designs. It's good quality, too.

>>10679677
I think you're right. I'm just going to let this blow over. If cgl doesn't want what I'm offering, that's okay. I just thought they might appreciate it and while some people did, the vast majority just can't get over the tranny thing.

Also, I find it funny that they're mad I'm calling myself a tranny. They obviously don't read /tttt.

>>10679682
>thinking name dropping prints does anything

Kys

>>10679684
Take your meds. How am I supposed to describe the coord without naming the main piece? If I didn't you'd be on my ass saying I was deliberately keeping things vague.

>>10679686
Post pics of you in your coords ITT now that we know who you are you have nothing to lose by doing so

>>10679688
OP do not do this. Just walk away from the thread. The sooner tou do, the better. Stop posting. Stop defending yourself. Every response is you digging yourself deeper.

>>10679691
She already got posted to the farm, not much more damage she could do by posting proof she’s actually a lolita. I think it’d actually help her case

>>10679682
Ah, I meant like...post a pic of your best coord since naming a print and showing pics are two very different things desu and naming doesn't really show what your coord overall looks like

Best not to post anything here OP. No matter what you post, good or not it will be shat on and laughed at. If you still do, at that point you're just asking for it. You're probably young too, do you really want to add more stress to your life?

>>10679413
You're also not entirely wrong. I spend a lot of time isolated because I work with elderly and want to minimize risk. But I still take a lot of walks; we have lots of orchards near here so it's nice. Lol I didn't even notice I put "floor" oops.

>>10679691
Agreed. Just walk away for your own sake.

>>10679695
>>10679677
>>10679691
nooo i really wanna see her coords though i'm so curious now :'(

>>10679699
No. Especially if it's another girl, the scrotes would have a field day.

>>10679702
why? coords get posted here all the time.

>>10679704
Because anons just want pictures for more milk from a potential cow. Even if you legitimately want to see her coords, others will have a field day ripping her apart.

She can’t post her coords because she doesn’t have any. Also waiting for it to “blow over” is dumb because gulls are still holding onto shit from a decade ago so it ain’t gonna just disappear

>>10679711
It's better than adding more ammo and making it worse. At this point she will just be laughed at for being a tranny trying to make a reddit thread. I'd rather not things get much worse than that.

>>10679712
How would posting a coord and proving she’s actually a lolita make it worse when people’s main gripe here and on the farm is that she isn’t a lolita?

>>10679709
Tch, why you gotta cowtip like this nonnie

>>10679713
You know damn well she'd be picked apart for every small thing. From being ita, to her coord, to the location she's taking a picture in, anything and everything. You don't need to prove yourself to anonymous people online.

>>10679717
It’d be better than people thinking she’s not even a lolita

>>10679720
Post your own coord if it's not a big deal. Let's make this a self post thread.

>>10679723
I’m not the one outed here, but I’ve posted my coords in the draw thread before. OP was outed and she isn’t a lolita. She needs to prove herself

>>10679726
Then you'd have no problem posting yourself again, unless you're just a larger too.

>>10679729
Not how that works bud

>>10679736
As expected.

>>10679743
I’m not the one with something to prove here. OP is.

>>10679746
Proving something to anons here means nothing and only serves to fuel the fire you're trying the fan. If OP posts themselves after this then they're even more retarded to fall for weak peer pressure like this.

>>10679751
You’re wrong and retarded. Everyone’s main gripe is that OP is not actually a lolita. Being an ita would be better than being a LARPer in this instance.

Lol this is so funny

>>10679752
"Everyone" is a handful of anons looking for a laugh. Were you the kid that had to constantly "prove" yourself to others over such meaningless things? What a sad life you must live if you need validation from strangers online and not just live your own life for your own sake. But I know you're smarter than that because you're not posting yourself either. This isn't even about OP anymore, I'm almost sure I'm speaking with a 20 nothing that's excited for weak milk.

>>10679756
Why are you seething so hard over OP and defending her like this? Sus

You look like you farted (farted) harded (harded) A B honor roll all Fs you re-farted

>>10679757
If I have the chance to change a person's mind from making a mistake, I will. Especially for the mentally ill and other women but now I'm just seeing how far you go in defending your reasoning for making a litteral nobody prove themselves to you. I mean really, can you not go to sleep at night unless they do it? And if they do, will you sleep better over it? Really an odd thing to push for so much. I'd rather be seen as "sus" for giving someone advice to not fuck themselves over than be the person crying out "jump."

>>10679776
Sure jan

>>10679779
Have a good night.

>>10679652
ayrt, and I understand where you're trying to come from, but consider the reasons why nobody else was doing it next time. It is a huge undertaking to vet and moderate a community of people, especially lolitas since they are known for attracting the unsavory and mentally deranged (whether that be sexual harassment or starting drama). There is a reason even the mods of other groups are shat on here, and that is because the people that do decide to moderate groups have their own litany of issues on top of the community itself not being rooted in any sort of kindness.

I don't think it's a bad thing for the lolitas here to be harsh towards you, and I hope you don't take it too personally. We are very wary of people interjecting themselves into our spaces and making us feel uncomfortable. I think your heart is in the right place, but it was poorly thought out.

>>10679711
I remember most of the cgl milk. I wasn't as much of an egl lj person, since desu there was way more drama on that shit than necessary. Cgl just got infinitely more particular and dramatic when the egl lj crowd got on here. I'm glad I don't have to see the word "backpedaling" used as often, but OP surely did do that. >>10679652
I've seen too many people use "sry guiz i just woke up" excuse to get out of things too much. It was way too obvious OP was posting and responding prior to that post. Fucking autist.

I miss that cow that made the poop jewelry.

>>10679849
Take a cold showah

Did OP ever actually post proof she was a Lolita? I call BS. I'd actually eat my words and have more respect for her if she was a Lolita and could coord a decent outfit. But I have a feeling after pretending she just "came back to all this" instead of the obvious WKing she was doing, she's probably just fucking lying more.

Who cares

Gulls are bullies

>>10680317
>>10680718
Correct. Get the fuck off our board and stop bumping your trash post, larper.

>>10678910
Just looking through Reddit, never used it- and what a seriously cancerous site. I'm not subscribed to anything, so my whole feed I think is "Top Posts" ... It's a just bunch of neo-feminist news, like people whinging on about sexism in the gym, homophobia, complaining about "anti-vaxxers" and right now I'm looking at "TIL that strippers can deduct boob jobs as a business expense"

>>10680722
>filename

>>10680737
Yeah Reddit as a whole sucks balls. Not for the reasons you mentioned though, it just sucks. Like this thread

>>10680737
Reddit is like a horrible combination of the worst parts of 4chan and tumblr.

>>10680315
She wont because she isn’t one

>>10680862
reddit is somehow worse than facebook

>>10679156
Yeah, this is definitely not 4chan guys trolling SJW by pretending to be ~degenerated~ minority

>>10681067
It isn’t. It’s an account that joined in 2008, has 1.8k followers, and supports the BLM movements. He’s also posted stuff about his transition too.

>>10681067
You'd be surprised how many men with a fetish will latch onto the LGB community and get praised for it.

>>10681067
I feel like you allies are in hardcore denial. Whenever shown what your company really looks and sounds like, you say it's a troll. But no, this is what you are fighting for when you advocate for the trans community.

>>10681090
where's that imageroll of chris-chan level trannies when you need it

>>10681090
This. Tired of people deluding themselves for sexual predators.

>>10681067
You’re delusional. 99.999% of trannies are gross fetishists who want to prey on women because 99.999% of MEN are gross fetishists who want to prey on women

>>10681090
This

>>10681121

>>10681123

>>10681124

>>10681126

>all this echo chambering
I think what you want is a discord OP. If you need a super strict verification just to view a post, then you're looking for a private chatroom, not something as open as reddit. Especially when someone lies to collect pictures and leave.

>>10681121
I wouldn't say 99% but yea.

>>10681160
It is that much.

>>10679142
>instantly responding with violence
How very male of them.

>>10681164
You're forgetting about transmen and actual trans people which is only less than 2% of the population. It's a mental illness that should be helped and not given asspats to nor demonized.

>>10681158
the problem is discord attracts both the worst part of 4chan’s user base and the worst part of twitter/tiktok/tumblr’s user base. i’m sure there would be ways to keep it sane and free from creeps but it would require some DEDICATED moderation lol

>>10681351
It is a mental illness that needs treatment yes, but encouraging the mentally ill to mutilate themselves is what’s happening now and it’s clearly not working. Also you’re ignoring the part where 99.999% of men are trash piles who should die

>>10681354
The trick is not to allow any men or teens in it. Cuts down most of the drama I've seen and the drama it does have gets worked out easily.

>>10681355
Mutilation does work if they're actually trans and get a good surgeon. Those that get depressed and kill themselves over the loss of their body parts are the ones doing it for the wrong reasons. I still wouldn't say 99% of men though. I can't help but think of those that have abandoned all sexual attachments and the guys who realize what they are and do their best to keep it in check. Why haven't we created a drug to lower aggression and sexual drive? Would solve a lot of problems.

>>10681363

I have a plan where we take boys starting puberty and remove them from the public until they have grown and prove themselves not to be violent or a danger to anyone else. The ones who are a danger get put to work like the animals they are.

>>10681364
I say the ones that pose a potential danger be put on medication during the workhorse life for a chance at rehabilitation.

>>10681380
There is no rehabilitating bad genetics

>>10678919
I would like a reddit server where people can give as much concrits as they like.

>>10681401
You are mentally ill.
>>10681351
What are you talking about?

This thread sucks big booty buttcheeks

>>10681360
that might work. the issue is you'd need a verification system and i think most of us would be extremely wary of sending photos of ourselves (or other personal info to prove we’re female, wear lolita, and are adults) because of the number of creeps that try to worm their way into lolita communities.
plus many teens look older than they are and im sure some of them (or just drama-loving unhinged young adults) could manage to get in.
tbqh the best way i could think to run a functional lolita community would be having an open community where anyone who acts creepy or awful is banned (whether that interaction occurs publicly or in dms etc), and where it’s the norm to give concrit and tell people what they need to hear so it doesn’t become a hugbox. maybe try to keep political discussions minimal to ward off the most annoying people.

Gu back to Derrit lolas.

>>10681492
It will never work. Lolitas have no soul, Anon.

>>10681492
I'm sad to say I'm experienced in discord servers and find that this
>where anyone who acts creepy or awful is banned
Does not work as well as you may think. You'll have a handful of people that agree with said awful person due to misinformation or they actually agree with them and and other side that wants them gone. What happens to that person regardless puts a sour taste in the community against the moderation and eventually leads to arguments and "fuck mods" mentality. New mods are brought it, rinse, repeat. Truth be told, I haven't seen this happen yet with female dominate servers but happens a lot in male dominate ones, but the possibility always crosses my mind.

>>10681502
yeah, this is probably a bit of a pipe dream especially since i know exactly what you’re talking about and have seen it happen in discord servers i’ve been in. tbf it’s often been men causing trouble, but i’ve seen enough women be creepy, unpleasant or downright cruel to not want to discount the possibility of the same thing happening in a female-only server.

theoretically you could just have a server with very strict, clear rules and try not to let favoritism prevent mods from enforcing them. people would still get angry over it but at least it would arguably be fair. like if you make a sexual comment about someone, you get banned. if you doxx someone, you get banned. if you post porn or otherwise sexual content, banned. etc.

any lolita community would probably be a nightmare to mod regardless.

>>10681502
Truth. Seen it happen with a different community from lolita. You basically have to keep people out, nowadays, in order for the community to not become "fuck mods."

>>10681502
This, not to mention that lingering thought of thinking maybe the person will improve and trying to give them passes. I think the closest thing to a solution is creating a hard three strikes system like I've seen some well-done servers do. It's a fucking jfashion/art/hobby/etc server, not a classroom for someone to unlearn autistic behavior and learn how not to be a pest. Also, did you know some people are unhinged enough to put on a persona to go through a rigorous vetting process, and continually rat out or vendetta the server or its members? Seen a lot of rat infestations of people playing hide-and-seek within discord servers sowing that exact fuck mods mentality because they're social manipulators. Or, if there's not a fuck mods moment there's a sense of whodunnit (distrust) because you know there's one sniveling cunt roping everyone into their Trouble In Terrorist Town game.

>I haven't seen this happen yet with female dominate servers but happens a lot in male dominate ones, but the possibility always crosses my mind.
The only female dominated servers I've seen this happen in are with fujo in denial ftms who like to start shit just for laughs. Legit never doing that again because one of the ftms had been sending gore to her mod friends for years before the mod team figured it out. Legit if I see a server moderated by 90% genderspecials I just leave because I'm not doing that shit again I swear to god.
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