/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Consistently getting pictures of myself in full coord, by the time everything is done being ready and I’m out the door, is so hard to remember. I guess writing this out I realize I’m going to need a tripod and camera rig always set up so I can take the pic myself and be done with it.

is eating one thing a day then drinking coffee/water for the rest of the day effective for weight loss?
i wanna drop some and fit into this BABY 2000s dress and i’m quite close

>>10722075
Of course, but try not to ruin your metabolism or binge from hunger. If you find you can't stick to it for a while, or you go for too long like over a month or something you may have negative consequences. Might as well get you activity up on the meantime so you don't eat a ton at the end and gain all of the weight back

>>10722075
Depends on the food, it's better if you just have a regulated diet and work out honestly. If your body feels starved at all, you're going to gain weight over lose it.

>>10722075
ive eaten one meal a day plenty of times when i was on vacation at home and not working out or going anywhere. i wasnt starving or purposefully doing it, im just a slim person who wasn't expending enough energy to warrant more food. you can ignore these idiots saying you'll destroy your metabolism. as long as you still get in one good meal, you'll be fine as long as you're not going on runs or anything

>>10721853
It's always been a fantasy of mine to eat Laduree pastries while wearing my dream coord in a sunny flower garden. Well I finally got to try Laduree's food and it taste fucking terrible. The raspberries they use taste like shit.

Gulls, I'm fucking devastated

>>10721872
I struggle with this too anon. My phone camera isn't the best so tryign to set it up and get a decent full coord pic (in focus) on my own is so hard and I never have the time before I have to leave the house..

>>10722097
just eat literally any other bakery's macarons then and solely buy laduree merch, whats the big deal? thats what the rest of us do

>>10722075
Jesus christ you people...

Figure out your caloric maintenance, eat 500 calories below that each day.

Weight loss. There is no magic method or secret ingredient. It's just basic physics.

>>10722103
anon is full of shit. or from the US so the local fruit is bad. i've had laduree in 3 countries and it's all good, including the macaron cake anon is talking about.

>>10722113
>from the US so the local fruit is bad
is this a joke or are you just dumb? the US gets top quality abundant fruit because of all the insane space, variety of climates, and mexican labor we have for agriculture. every time i travel to europe or japan, you have to pay an arm and a leg just to get hopefully-ripe fruit.

>>10722097
>The raspberries they use taste like shit.
i call bullshit. are you talking about their raspberry *flavored* stuff like their jams and macarons? because i highly doubt theyre just using bad raspberries that "taste like shit".

>>10722097
i hope you are wrong because i was about to plan to trek to one in another state.

sometimes I wonder if I will ever meet another lolita. the local comm has been dead for years, it died long before I joined the fashion. I've never even seen another lolita in real life. Not a glimpse. Makes me feel a bit strange, sometimes a little lonely. I wish there was even one other lolita nearby to talk to.

>>10722075
It's effective for ruining your metabolism so go for it fatty. Kek.

>>10722154
>calling someone a fatty for eating less and trying to lose weight
???

>>10722151
How far are you willing to travel for a meetup? Can you think of somewhere within a reasonable range, and find out the comms in those areas, and watch out for events? It’s totally possible, just more difficult at the moment because of the panini

My ED is back. I know I need help but at least I'm thin.

>>10722211
for the number of lolitas on here that claim to have EDs, i hardly ever see any that actually look anorexic

>>10722239
idk I just think this fashion covers it up well. plus not all anorexics are deathly thin. and if you wear a wig and makeup, those hide all the other obvious anorexia tells.

>>10722174
>>10722174
the closest comm is about 5 hours away by car, I've considered making the trip but yeah with the covid they are barely having meetups. I hope someday I can go but yeah. seems difficult if not impossible right now.

>>10722247
That would be too far for a day trip anon. Maybe it’s time to dream big and either move or save up to attend big events like Royal Las Vegas, an anime convention that has a lot of lolita panels, or an AP tea party if they come back.

>>10722246
sure but there aren't even that many thin chicks in general, let alone ones that are overly thin. i'm often the thinnest one at meets i attend and i don't have an eating disorder. and no, fatties claiming they're anorexic while clinically overweight does not count

Stupid feel but even though I have a ton of brand, I feel kinda depressed about it. The only items I have left to buy are old and rare, and often damaged when they do show up. Looking at my wardrobe gives me a sense of happiness, but then it's sucked away because I realize the golden days of my favorite brand are gone. New releases are so lackluster that I wish I liked some other style. The secondhand market is void of good items. It feels like getting stuff is becoming harder and more impossible, people are hoarding the good stuff because they also realize nothing good is getting released, and there's no real excitement for the future. I know lolita isn't "dead," but it kind of feels like it's dying slowly to me.

I'm blaming covid, because I feel like everything really went downhill in 2020/2021.

>>10722258
I feel like this is a perfect time for you to pick up sewing and make the items you want yourself...if they are old and rare they are probably solid print things that won't be too hard to find fabric for? make it your own golden days!

>tfw il never have friends to do group cosplay with

>>10722254
nayrt but there are a ton of lolitas with no social media presence that don't interact with the community and just wear the fashion for themselves

>>10722075
no , you're eventually gonna crash and binge and gain it all back. just eat 1000-1200 calories per day , it will take more time but at least you're doing it healthily and won't gain it all back immediately

This is just a vent post but I wish I was able to reply to meet up posts sooner. My family are shit planners so I started giving them up until a week before an important date like a birthday before making my own plans. This was fine pre pandemic but since meet ups have attendee limits now I'm being locked out of events because I'm not able to secure a space due to holding out in case of family plans

I should really stop giving a fuck what family think but I'm made out to be a bitch when I don't attend family events because of something social. It's not like many of them are supportive of me anyway and I always feel like I need to tone myself down to be acceptable to them. Especially with fashion

>>10722298
It sounds like you can push back on your family taking up all of your free time at least a little bit anon. If you find a meet and want to go, let them know ahead of time that you plan on going. Remind them frequently so they don’t forget. If they say you have to cancel, say you’ve already paid for the event ticket and people are expecting you to be there. If they say “oh, are they more important than your family?” say no, but families normally encourage their kid’s social life rather than always make them cancel at the last minute. Keep an even tone, don’t ever show you’re upset. If they make fun of your hobby, say “I don’t make fun of your social life, why do you so that with me?” Respect your own schedule and treat them like kids who could blow up at the drop of a hat, and you are mature and measured, take it from someone with control freak parents.

I really love sewing Lolita pieces, but I have no Desire to wear them. I am also too tired to deal with the logistics of selling. I feel like a handmade hoarder now... Wish there were a Lolita Red Cross donation spot kek

>>10721853
OP it's even worse in Seattle area. You need a vaccine card or proof of negative test everywhere, even meets. It's like ok, but I don't need a vaccine I've had covid. So stupid.

>>10722258
Don't blame COVID it's the Japanese economy. Even before COVID AP was manufacturing in Philippines and Myanmar, and simplifying the dress cuts and prints and slapping it in polyester. Even before, IW stopped making innovative dress cuts and drawing prints. Even before, everyone stopped using applique and velvet on a regular basis. The occasional rereleases will get nice materials but nothing new. The Japanese economy has not recovered to pre bubble era. Everything is getting offshored and cheapened

>having to constantly pretend I am okay with the insane level of leftist bullshit just to maintain my job and important social relationships

I'm exhausted.

>>10722528
I 100% get you anon. I'm by no means a /pol-tard, but man the leftist stuff is exhausting to keep up with. I just wanna wear pretty dresses.

>>10722535
Same. I'm not even political and I'm tired of the leftist propaganda. Like I want to just not pay attention to politics and now it's in every wake of life.. I don't feel 'free' anymore.

>>10722097
Raspberries aren't in season in January so I don't know what you expect. Nobody is going to have great raspberries in January.

>>10722542
>>10722535
Me too senpai. I just hide out with my bf anymore, it's no use going to meets or even hanging out with most people where I live.

are you even ever free as a woman? no matter what you do, you are always at risk of being kidnapped or assaulted or even worse things. women are never free, and i say this as a woman.

>Want to buy a cosplay
>Do my own measurements
>Check the size measurements chart
>My height is in X-Small, my chest is in medium, my waist is in large
I want to die.

>>10722551
big chungus

have a crush on a guy at work, we don't get to talk much but based on his insta, he's the scrawny gamer type. That kinda gives me hope that I'd be his type but I'm autistic and don't know what to do
I wear lolita/general jfash & I'm not ugly by any means but I don't know how to talk to guys, I get so flustered. My voice cracked saying goodbye to him and I was so embarrassed.

>>10722549
But men are the primary victims of all violent crimes except sexual assault.

>>10722561
Just reach out to him.

>Hey I was going to do X today and I wanted to go with someone. Would you like to come with me?
OR
>Hey do you have any recommendations about where I can find/do Y? Could you show me/come with me?

>>10722563
yes, but men don't get kidnapped as much as we do
and more than likely people don't kill the men simply because they're vulnerable or because their gender like the daily crimes against women because they're women

>>10722542
I'm most annoyed that I can't be an observer anymore. Everyone has to be an activist otherwise you're the enemy.

>>10722565
Based on what?

What does it matter if a crime is committed against you because of your perceived vulnerability?

>>10722563
Because men are violent retards who get in fights with other men all the time. They fight back. Also, water is wet.

>>10722572
>What does it matter if a crime is committed against you because of your perceived vulnerability?
?? Nayrt but are you for real? If vulnerability is inherently attached to one's gender it makes it an easier target altogether. If the bandit is going to choose a man or a woman under the same circumstances to rob, who do you think they will go after?
Must be bait, I can't believe it.

>>10722563
yes by, you guessed it, OTHER MEN

I got fat.
I mean fat enough that none of my dresses fit.
I didn’t realize it because I’ve gotten so depressed after the year I’ve had that I wore sweats.
Now I’m working out and restricting calories again but it’s hard as hell not to just dive right back into Ana tendencies.

At least staring at my dresses gives me a reason not to touch food lol

I had thought sweet lolitas were odd and mentally ill when i first got into lolita. Then i just thought they were extra.
but then i put on an AP jsk last week and I totally converted. I get it now. It’s so cute and makes me happy. I’m sorry for doubting the other sweet fags lol

>>10722598
sweet lolitas are still mentally ill desu, they are always the most vicious drama mongers

>>10722600
Every style has drama mongers except for maybe classic. Just look at goth and oldschool, yikes. It's a new edgelords every week

>>10722589
how's your cardio game? Are you tracking calories properly? Do you have a scale, and set goals for how much you want to lose by certain date?

>>10722574
>victim blaming

>>10722575
So...what's your evidence?

>>10722584
Didn't say otherwise. Most violent crimes are committed by blacks.

>>10722600
Maybe but I have changed my thinking because I have met some very nice sweet lolitas who aren’t involved in drama. I guess I’ll be one of them. I barely know who lor and tyler is except from people bitching about them here lol

>>10722615
It's not victim blaming if they're literally the perpetrators too. Men, and blacks in particular, clearly have issues they need to work out to stop being such violent dipshits.

>>10722623
Most men and people in general are not both perpetrators and victims of violence. It's generally a one-way street.

Men engage in more risk-taking behaviour like being in dangerous areas, walking alone at night and are generally a lot less willing to let others be rude to them. But to say that because of that they deserve violence or asked for violence to be committed against them is literally the exact same argument that people use against women.

>>10722625
>and are generally a lot less willing to let others be rude to them
So they're violent retarded dipshits who escalate dangerous situations

>>10722626
Stop being stupid. There are times when standing up for yourself and others results in violence that is not your fault.

Here's a story
>Be on late night train
>One other passenger is a young women
>Train stops and a guy who is obviously on drugs walks in
>Immediately sits down next to girl and starts asking her questions
>"Where are you going?"
>"Do you want to spend the night with me?"
>"Do you have a boyfriend?"
>"Why aren't you answering me?"
>She tries to ignore all of his questions
>He just gets fed up and starts yelling at her. Calling her a whore, slut, etc
>I stand up, walk over
>"Hey mate, I think she's just tired. Leave her alone, yeah?"
>He stands up and tries to get as close to my face as possible
>I'm concerned he's trying to distract me to pull a knife or something so push him onto his ass
>He gets up and starts throwing punches
>we basically fight it out for a few minutes until the next station where he gets out

What else could I have done there that would have solved the situation without violence? Let the woman just be abused There are times when violence needs to be used.

>>10722631
wow what do you know, in your anecdote a woman is in danger
i appreciate you saving her, but this just reinforces the point that women are not and will never ever be truly free.

>>10722615
Men are the niggers of gender

>>10722633
I don't understand your point. Women aren't free because of violence. Men aren't free because of violence. Why do bad things happen to good people? Why are we here, just to suffer?

>>10722636
Disagree. Men contribute to evil just as much as they contribute to good. Black people have rarely contributed to good at least not in the leagues required to balance the bad.

>>10722625
>Most men and people in general are not both perpetrators and victims of violence
Nta, but not true. I come from a long line of domestic abuse, it trickles through generations just like rape does unfortunately. I always realize people who want to be defenders of people actually don't know the psychology behind it and why kids torture animals and become crazy serial killers.

It's great you want to be defensive and all, but I think the reality is a lot of you guys who want to be social virtuists don't actually listen to people who go through the situations and think you know everything.

>>10722640
Also just went through the quoted series, am dating someone who has gone through sexual and physical abuse from their babysitter at a young age - he indeed has issues with domestic violence as well, unfortunately.

Like yo, we are unfortunately attracted to damaged people and it trickles without self awareness. That's all I have to say.

>>10722640
Domestic abuse and intimate abuse is in a different league. I won't say that there aren't massive discrepancies there. But it goes beyond the scope of the original discussion.

I think there definitely should be more male-orientated services to help men deal with mental illness and severe stress. I know a lot of men don't like going to therapy or things of that nature because the primary users of therapy are females and therefore the spaces, languages and culture of treatment is female orientated. It's just not appealing for many men.

>>10722254
People with EDNOS and OSFED are by far the largest group of people with ED, and you know what a huge part of those groups is? Atypical amorexia. The world is getting fatter but anorexia is still just as common, even at a normal weight. Its rarer in overweight or obese people but im literally diagnosed atypical ana with a bmi of 25 are so are thousands of other people.

Why are girls so mean?

>>10722644
It does the same psychological damage, there may be nuances but the issue is the people out there that think they understand ..without ever experiencing it? I literally have two examples of both types, it still causes a trickle effect with every person that experiences abuse believe it or not.

Realistically, people trying to play psychologist from the stance of a virtuist, you're basically theorizing how things 'should work.'

Men don't like opening up or introspecting the same way, ultimately. Being a "man" is actually beat into them and sometimes literally, so yeah it's quite often they don't want to open up as a sign of weakness. This is why I am saying..like it probably would help to really read into the psychology of victims, rather than theorize how things should work from a virtuist standpoint imo

>>10722669
I literally don't know what you're saying or why it's relevant.

Yes people who are abused are much more likely to abuse others. That was never challenged.

Yes men don't respond as well to traditional therapy compared to women. I agreed with this sentiment and expounded on the need for more male-orientated services to meet this need.

What's your point?

>>10722669
Sounds like you're just being a pussy. Man the fuck up and stop crying like a little bitch. You crying about it on a forum about dressing up is cringe as fuck. Your parents should have beat you to death so that people wouldn't have to deal with your winey ass.

>>10722674
Nice one, you sure showed me. Also not a man, so your compass is broken and you're illiterate since you couldn't even read the posts previously.

How's being retarded going? lmao. Imagine thinking people who undergo psychological and physical abuse are tilted by a dumb ass on 4chan

>>10722675
>ywnbaw
Of course the guy that act like a little bitch turned out to be a tranny.
>Imagine thinking people who undergo psychological and physical abuse are tilted by a dumb ass on 4chan
Why would it be hard to imagine that little bitch boys that can’t deal with their emotions irl would find it hard to deal with it online?

>>10722613
Cardio only goes so far with weight loss because your body will cannibalize muscle if you only do that for working out. Do a variety of workouts like yoga, HIIT, light weights and deadlifts.

>>10722682
>your body will cannibalize muscle if you only do that for working out
>yoga for weightloss
>light weights for weightloss
>recommending deadlifts for literally anybody except power lifters especially someone who just wants weightloss


Where do you people learn this shit?

>>10722613
Yeah, I’m just having trouble sticking to it. Depression brain really sucks, but I’m powering through it. For now, cardio wise I broke it up into three 20 min sessions a day to make it easier

>>10722682
Just eat enough lean protein and it will be fine. Cardio will not cause muscle loss, silly goose

I wish I wasn't so tall. Or at least not tall+long torso. It's really the worst combo for buying cosplay and lolita

>>10721853
>I wish there were more excuses to wear my shit
Sucks having to wait til halloween to wear my SG1 uniform

>>10722682
>Cardio only goes so far with weight loss because your body will cannibalize muscle
Are you fucking retarded? What level of broscience is this?

>>10722327

Thanks for the reply, a dinner meet came up and I decided to go for it. I became a bit withdrawn during the pandemic and threw myself into work so I'm trying to have more of a social life now

It's nice to know I'm not the only one going through all the guilt tripping because I want to enjoy my own life but I'm sorry your parents are like that

>>10722151
anon.... go to anime cons. it'll be cringe but you'll definitely see a few other lolitas there

>>10722254
bulimia, ednos, etc exists. also take this next part with a grain of salt because im not anorexic, but i thought the "certain bmi" criteria in the dsm was changed to a certain amount of weight lost in a short time period?

>>10722275
this one hits too hard

Must be horrible to be a woman
I just wear whatever I want
I don't need an excuse to dress great

>>10722358
get yourself a cute lolita gf anon
that's what I do with all the ons patterns I wanna make but don't wanna wear. it makes them so happy, ya know? wholesome stuff

>>10722735
That requires finding a girl the same size or smaller than the clothes you have, you can't really make clothes bigger.

>>10722736
you will find someone some day anon

I suffer being unable to find a gf who would look good in men's clothing and be willing to wear it regularly.

I am an ugly man and as such I will never be desired in any setting.

>>10722747
True
Not sure what kind of response you were expecting

>>10722748
legalize euthanasia
also just remember that your feels could always be worse

>>10722747
Some people actually have a fetish for ugly guys.

>>10722749
You're much better off than me. You have a legitimate reason for being miserable. I'm just lazy. I only have myself to blame. I could have everything I want in life if I put in the effort.

>>10722751
this is true, however they oversaturate whatever "market" is available for them. as such, they are treated poorly by default. I cannot even hold a woman's eye contact when talking in a completely platonic way.
Above all else, they want to make sure I know they do not have any interest in me.
Even the girls who don't think I am too ugly already have to much attention so they wouldn't want more from me.

>>10722680
I think you might be autistic

>>10722747
are you really ugly, or are you just doing the typical male thing and making 0 effort with your appearance? Unless you're literally deformed, this is probably improvable.

>>10722769
Most women just have no standards and think that few people are ugly. I'm not the guy you're responding to, but I consider this the bare minimum to not be ugly.

>>10722769
I don't really know how to optimize my appearance, but I wouldn't say I put no effort into it. I got rid of my acne years ago, so no improvement there. If you look closely, you can see some scarring, but I don't see it as significant.
I am not bald, and I can grow a beard, but it is pretty short right now, both my hair and beard were long before.
ultimately, what looks good depends on the individual observer.
I am tall, but I assume kind of scary looking, people generally don't approach me for any reason, man or woman.
How do I improve my appearance?

>>10722774
go to a plastic surgeon they'll tell you what features they would change and even photoshop you so you can see the difference

>>10722772
>Most women just have no standards and think that few people are ugly.
No, you have it backwards. We consider plenty of men to be ugly because you put in no effort. Women *know* that ugly people need to put in effort to become more attractive. That's just a fact. It's because most women would be considered ugly ourselves if we put as little effort into our appearance as men do. So we know first-hand how huge of a difference it makes for both men and women. I'm hot now, but if I didn't get hair treatments, do skin care, get my face waxed, shave my body hair, watch my diet, wear makeup, and know what clothing suited me, I'd look "ugly". That's why so many women are ugly ducklings in high school and then gradually blossom into attractive adults. It's not because we got plastic surgery or anything...it's just because we learned how to care for our appearance. Picrel is a prime example.

Now obviously men won't need to get waxed or learn makeup or anything like that, but you do need to work out, learn what clothing suits you best, and find a haircut that works for you. A man will always look more attractive if he puts effort into his appearance (even if it's alt fashion) than if he slaps on a Nintendo tee and cargo shorts.

>>10722779
Shit advice. Most plastic surgeons will butcher you into the uncanny valley. If you ever go to one, you need to know exactly what you want and see pics of their prior work

>>10722774
Do you work out? That's the obvious answer here to improve the male appearance. And what haircut are you sporting? How do you dress when you hang out with women?

>>10722780
That's a horrible example. If anything I'd say she looks a little better on the left, the only improvement is her hairstyle. What you're describing isn't beauty, it's sexual attractiveness. Heterosexual men and women are empirically proven in many peer reviewed studies to be VERY bad at differentiating the two. If a young Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt were homeless and had greasy hair, skin covered in dirt, and dirty rags were their clothes, they'd still be objectively more beautiful than 99.99% of men. You're ugly so you want to believe that you can improve your looks without plastic surgery, but that's not true. You can do whatever the fuck you want to make men more sexually attracted to you, but it will not change my opinion of your beauty by even a whit. I am sure you are "hot", that is to say that men want to fuck you. I am also sure that you are not beautiful.

>>10722772
>>10722784
nobody asked you, scrote. if you like men so much go suck off that other guy.

>>10722774
Work out, cooler haircut, better clothes, start doing skincare. Most men don't take any care of their skin at all and it shows. At least use cleanser and moisturiser. But getting /fit/ is the biggest game changer. If you struggle with discipline, I recommend a PT, I got one and shed 30% of my starting weight.

Also, do not take any advice from other men about being hot to women, especially not incel 4chan men. If they had a clue, they wouldn't be here.

>>10722787
>nobody asked you, scrote. if you like men so much go suck off that other guy
I don't fuck ugly men.

>>10722784
>If a young Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt were homeless and had greasy hair, skin covered in dirt, and dirty rags were their clothes, they'd still be objectively more beautiful than 99.99% of men
That's literally false. People would find them repulsive on the street and no one would be trying to bed them.

Also kek I'm sorry but if you honestly think left is better than right then you must be terrible at gauging beauty yourself. Everyone always talks about how this is the one movie where a makeover actually made a huge change.

A "beautiful" woman is not beautiful if she doesn't wax her mustache or comb her frizzy hair.

>>10722747
Even as a non-ugly guy my default assumption is "people don't want me here"

>>10722784
>What you're describing isn't beauty, it's sexual attractiveness.
Are you retarded? OP was literally asking how to become more attractive to women. What the fuck do you think we're talking about exactly?

>>10722789
You conflate beauty and sexual attraction with each other because you're a soulless peasant with no aesthetic sense. Anyone who would take opinions on aesthetics from someone who makes such a trivial mistake is a fool not worthy of life.

>>10722792
He's just a faggot who wants his beautiful homeless men, ignore him

>>10722792
Wanting to be desired sexually is like wanting to be desired as a meal by a carnivorous predator. I ignored his idiotic desire because it is foolish and disgusting. Willingly objectifying yourself into a tool of sexual gratification for others is certainly the most pathetic and deplorable thing I can imagine.

>>10722793
OP cares about getting a gf, not "being beautiful", whatever the fuck you think that means.

>>10722795
Just admit you're skinnyfat and poorly dressed and go. No one cares about your Beautiful Man LARPing

>>10722796
He won't get a gf by listening to the advise of you valid worthless whores. He'll just be used and exploited by a worthless woman. You form relationships with people by sharing interests and engaging in conversation with them, by having charisma and being likeable. If he wants to be abused and manipulated by a shallow whore he might as well kill himself for all I care, a better fate without doubt.

>>10722780
>learn what clothing suits you best, and find a haircut that works for you.
how do I find this out, without relying on my (apparently flawed) subjective judgment? (I think cargo pants look cool)
the thing is, "good" is subjective in all contexts, eye of the beholder; I need somebody else's opinion, preferable somebodies professional opinion.
>>10722789
I think the one on the left looks fine.

>>10722798
I'm better dressed and better looking than anyone on this board, but that's irrelevant.

my asexual prude self watching this conversation:

>>10722801
>>10722799
Sounds like you aren't that good looking if women are using you and dropping you kek

>>10722804
You're grasping at straws. The power of being good looking is so strong that if I was talking to you irl you would have agreed with me immediately. I'm that beautiful.

>>10722800
>(I think cargo pants look cool)
Serious question, is there an image of a person that you could give as an example of them looking cool to you? Could be a starting point.

Generally though, just look at men that society calls "attractive". If you have no particular fashion style, then just look at generic celebs, like the Chris Pratts and Ryan Goslings. Then look at their appearance and emulate it. First things first, they work out. Then look at their clothes and hair. Again, not every look suits every person, so there will inevitably be experimentation, especially when it comes to haircuts. He'll, even flipping through a GQ could help.

Frankly, confidence and being outgoing is undoubtedly the most attractive thing about people. I've seen ugly, fat dudes get laid literally just for being charming. But since you struggle with that aspect, maybe working on your appearance can help you with attaining that confidence.

>>10722808
>Frankly, confidence and being outgoing is undoubtedly the most attractive thing about people. I've seen ugly, fat dudes get laid literally just for being charming. But since you struggle with that aspect, maybe working on your appearance can help you with attaining that confidence.
Anyone can be confident. That's why God invented alcohol.

>>10722808
I like to think that I generally have high self esteem, I recently have been coming to terms with the fact that I am simply ugly, because I haven't found anybody who could reasonably think I am trying to flirt with them who has responded positively to conversation with me.
most of the stuff I wear looks cool to me, every haircut I have ever had looked good to me, and most food I eat tastes good to me. I am generally a pretty positive person with the one little weight of complete romantic failure holding me down.

As a result, I am completely incapable of genuine self analysis for conventional attractiveness. I 100% need somebody else's guidance to improve, other than being in better shape, I suppose I could work on that, but /fit/ says If I lift for women I am not going to make it.

I wish I could buy some kind of professional advice. There would be a good market for suckers like me.

>>10721853
Previous thread hasn't even hit bump limit. You dumb whore. Look at the fucking catalog next time.

>>10722819
nobody wants to look at your gay power ranger shit faggot

>>10722817
More than half of /fit/ is comprised of fat dyel faggots. I'm a /fit/ dyke and lifting for women keeps me on track. Doesn't really matter what your motivation is as long as you have one.

>>10722822
it's not like you have to compete in an asymmetrical environment like men do though. It is hell for us.

>>10722688
How fucking retarded are you? Do you seriously think weights don't make you lose weight? Holy fucking shit you're stupid.

>>10722823
A hell you deserve. Every day I wake up and thank Vivec I don't have to date scrotes and put up with their nonsense. Men utterly brought this current state of affairs on themselves.

>>10722831
Recommending someone to do weights when their single goal is weight loss is fucking stupid you dumb cunt.

If someone's sole goal is to lose weight, moving weights is possibly the single most inefficient way to do that out of all possible exercise methods. Fuck off you retard.

>>10722845
uh no. weights, especially for women, boost your metabolism over time. i lost 10k from just small arm weights.

>>10722851
I can't tell if I'm being trolled or not.

>>10722154
How do you ruin your metabolism?

>>10722855
nta but lifting weights -> getting a little toned/building a little muscle, muscle burns more calories than fat by just existing, so if you both lift weights and do cardio you will lose weight faster AND look better because you aren’t just skinny fat

lifting weights doesn’t mean getting absolutely fucking ripped, if you’re implying that weightlifting will bulk you instead of making you slimmer. that would only happen if you wanted it to.

>>10722860
Look Anon, spending time to build a pathetic amount of muscle so the muscle can use more energy is not going to be even 1% as efficient than simply doing HIIT.

Body composition is completely down to your diet, has absolutely nothing to do with weights.

>>10722688
nta, but the anon sounds like a man. I've seen men try to guide women in how they should work out and it's not a one size fits all.

My boyfriend predominately does weights, no cardio. He's buff AF desu. I think it depends on what your hormonal levels are like, along with fat deposition already. Everyone's body is different, but men can't exactly advise best for what works for women due to completely different fat levels, hormones, and body types.. idk.

Women have a harder time burning fat with building muscle immediately, just due to the fact that the fat and muscle compound on women more often than anything and make us look bulky. I do find it hilarious that men don't quite get that fairly often, but it must be nice just naturally having a low body fat %.

Cardio is better for women and light weights. I'd restrict yourself from doing too heavy on the weights until you lower your body fat % with cardio, just because there's the bulking up problem. But yeah, I mean any man is going to advise you otherwise because they have no concept of how a female body works and people with weight loss just parrot shit.

But maybe your body is different than mine. Who knows. The thing is, we don't all have the same body type and I'm a high estrogen body type.

>>10722747
This might seem cheesy, but most people worth having a relationship with are equally if not more attracted to someone's personality. While maybe there are a few things you could adjust in your looks and clothes that make you feel more confident and therefore help, personality is always key. Focus on that and chin up, anon.

>>10722789
If you have curly hair and comb it, it doesn't look like this. It gets even poofier. That's a straight perm or blowout, ya scrote. It's expensive and damaging over time

>>10722873
no one is saying that combing your hair will turn it straight, retard. you are completely missing the point, because even women with curly hair who opt to keep it curly need to learn how to take care of it and have a strict regimen so that it doesnt look like shit.

also it's called a keratin treatment and it actually strengthens your hair. Nice try though

>>10722855
you can't be the stupid. Muscle burns more energy. Burning more energy means your metabolism goes up. This is very basic knowledge

>>10722861
>Body composition is completely down to your diet
holy shit 10/10

>>10722817
>other than being in better shape, I suppose I could work on that, but /fit/ says If I lift for women I am not going to make it.
if you start lifting for women, you can still learn to love it. It's very rewarding in itself. But it sounds like you just keep putting it off out of laziness and making excuses. Working out is the absolute biggest game changer men can make to their appearance. if you're too stupid to look at pictures of attractive men and copy their style, at the very least learn to lift the weight. don't come back and bitch more until you do this

>>10722898
nta but keratin treatments usually contain formaldehyde or whatever and any process that uses heat, which keratin treatments require, is damaging to your hair on some level. if you have curly hair there are ways to take care of it that don't involve straightening or damage.

>>10722861
>diet
literally this, eat better, see a nutritionist if needed, but typically higher protein and fiber diets of mostly whole foods with a variety of fruit and veggies tend to be the best for sustaining healthy weight and body overall.

>>10722911
quit samefagging.

>>10722906
straightening your hair once every several months is not a big deal as far as damaging hair treatments go. My hair is now way healthier because I no longer have to straighten it more than that. they are an absolute lifesaver if you have frizzy hair

and yes, that's literally what I said. The point was never that you had to have straight hair to be attractive, it was that you have to take care of your appearance to be attractive. Even if that means sticking with curly hair. Try to keep up

>>10722913
n...no?

>>10722911
anon, fruit is not good advice to women. sugar in general causes belly fat, especially for women. I'm just saying, once again, it's obvious you're a man or a fat woman

>>10722930
Nayrt but when the only sugar I was allowed to eat was fruit, I was dropping weight like crazy and went down to 93 lbs. as long as you're not chugging fruit juice, it's pretty hard to get fat solely off fruit. processed sugar is the real issue and should be avoided at all costs.

also, this dumb notion you have that fruit will somehow give you "belly fat" is incorrect and retarded. If you gain weight, you gain weight however you normally do. Different foods won't cause you to gain weight only in specific parts of your body. That's retarded broscience

>>10722930
>fruit is bad for you
the absolute retarded takes i see on this board sometimes i swear to fucking god

>>10722930
Whole fruit can be one part of a healthy diet. Refined and carbs with little fiber often lead to weight gain, blood sugar issues, low energy, etc. in combination with eating excess calories. A higher protein and fiber diet with healthy fats and mostly whole foods has been proven to be near fact as something that helps you lose or maintain healthy weight because it keeps you full and your blood sugar more balanced throughout the day. It's basically the Mediterranean diet that people go on about. Many types of whole fruit tend to be high in fiber that helps you feel full and have lots of nutrients, plus most fruit is low calorie in reasonable quantities. They can make good snacks and deserts.

Fruit is not high in protein though and no one ever suggested it should be the only thing someone eat. Whole foods and lean protein, healthy fats from monounsaturated fatty acids and sources like nuts and seeds, lots of veggies, etc. are all great options for staying full and having energy to get through an active day for many people.

I'm a short woman and weigh 110lbs, I lift light weights but mostly do circuit training, dance, and walks for cardio. I lost 30lbs eating in the way I described. Dudes are usually the type to only discuss working out and not diet or give shit diet advice that is just keto or steak and eggs diets, or only mention CICO. CICO is useful and needed but you'll have a better time eating more strategically for your overall health with a calorie deficit VS mostly junk in a calorie deficit.

>>10722938
>Different foods won't cause you to gain weight only in specific parts of your body. That's retarded broscience
Nta but while foood is unrelated, how active you are does actually have an impact on "where" you gain weight. But only that you gain more visceral fat around your organs if you are less active while if you are more active you gain more subcutaneous fat (wherever you usually gain fat externally) which is less harmful, but still bad in excess. This is actually a problem with retired Japanese samurai. They're literal athletes and eat high calorie but nutritious diets, but when they stop training daily the diet becomes harmful because of the excess calories with no activity and they develop more visceral fat and begin to be more prone to weight related diseases.

>>10722945
no one cares about your unrelated tangent on exercise, autismo. we're talking about diet

>>10722948
Exercise is related to weight loss and helps in combo with a good diet.

>>10722950
this. only retards think diet alone does anything.

>>10722958
you have to be retarded to think that changing diet alone *wouldn't* do anthing.

>>10722958
You can reach your goals with diet alone but exercise is also super helpful.

>>10722958
people lose weight all the time by doing nothing but changing their diet. exercise helps and all, but by no means is it necessary. you must be fat and delusional.

>>10722958
100%

but sugar in any form makes you gain fat - there's a reason why gluten friend and low carb diets work so well, but realistically yes you should be working out as well but if you're going to do it straight from diet, you better cut out all carbs, sugars, and anything that gives you artificial energy.

>>10722982
>artificial energy
bitch you mean caffeine? tea and coffee black don't make anyone fat kek

low carb and gluten free diets work bc they tend to substitute simple and processed carbs for protein and fiber, literally what has already been said.

eating too many calories makes you fat. fruit is low calorie. unless you're tryna be like those dumbass raw vegan 40 bananas a day people who just drink high sugar fruit and juices and end up diabetic, you're not getting fat off a fuckin apple a day

>>10722982
Not "100%", it is literally factually untrue. You can absolutely lose weight without exercise and people frequently do.

>>10722986
This. Being "fat because of fruit" is something fatties tell themselves when they try to pretend they eat healthy.

The truth is that a higher amount of fruit in the diet correlates with a lower rate of obesity. People who eat fruit are factually thinner.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5084020/

>>10722986
>>10722989
Both of you are literal nutritionist idiots lmao. Imagine not knowing what carbs are.

Also just as a fyi, anything that is fake like fruit is that even leads a major known CEO to dying from cancer is likely not as good for you as you might want to believe. But yes, call someone fat when they cut out literal every form of sugar. Whatever helps you sleep at night while you justify your bagel, fat ass.

>>10722990
you can know what carbs are without pretending every form of carbs is the devil and makes you fat.

you're either a hardcore troll or a dumbass keto diet retard who salivates at the thought of being able to eat all the cheese and bacon you want even if it means you can never have an apple or "high carb" vegetable like a carrot ever again. you're probably obese and constipated from lack of fucking fiber if you think fruit and veggies are bad for you.

>>10722832
>Men utterly brought this current state of affairs on themselves.
you are right, I blame the desperation of other men and not women.

>>10722870
it's not so much that I think I am too ugly for someone to find me attractive is the problem, but rather that any social setting is immediately hostile to me.
I can't interact with women (even if I have a good reason) without them making it obvious that I make them uncomfortable.

>>10722994
it's definitely a troll. They're talking about Steve Jobs eating nothing but fruit and dying of cancer because he refused treatment

>>10723002
I think this is just a lost cause case of autism. If you're making people uncomfortable and don't know why, there's nothing much we can do to fix that. There must be something uncanny about the way you communicate

>>10722990
Imagine thinking that you have to drastically cut out something as benign as fruit just to not be fat. That is actually delusional. We have to assume you're a fatty because there's no way a slim person would think that's necessary

>>10723002
have you tried communicating with male friends to build social skills before you jump to women?

>>10723013
Not only that, imagine thinking fruit is "fake" kek

>>10723014
Teaching people to communicate over 4chan is never going to work. They have to figure it out for themselves, and if they haven't been able to in all the years they've been alive, they're fucked. At most, I would suggest practicing small talk with strangers if you're someone who just needs a little push to be outgoing. But even that will only be successful if you understand how to do normal things like hold eye contact appropriately and speak naturally. If you're creeping women out in almost every conversation you have with them, you're fucked.

>>10721853
>anime convention cancelled for years in a row
>finally seems to be happening this year
>retards require vaccination for the convention center because muh everlasting fear

it's a shame many such communities have warped minds and don't have any problem kowtowing to (and aiding) authoritarianism as long as it looks politically correct to their (mostly online) friends do so

>>10723035
Idk man my 5G reception is great now. Worth it

>>10722122
*laughs in Japan*

>>10722122
all the fruit in the US tastes like water. get rekt. i may not get strawberries in december but the local ones are amazing.

>>10722869
The same principles apply for both men and women. There is no difference. If you want muscle, heavy weights. If you want to lose fat, cardio.

Why do you people make everything so complex?

>just because there's the bulking up problem
No there isn't. Lifting weights doesn't make you bulk up. Weights in conjunction with diet will. Diet is the single most important factor. If you eat like lard you will turn into a lard. The weights don't turn you into a lard.

>>10723046
This. I took inches off my waist/hips/bust(just back fat boobs the same size) just lifting moderate weights. Chest press is op for firming pecs. I only did this a couple of times a week, sometimes once for a few months.

Of course, you can't eat like shit regardless of exercise regime.

>>10722930
>sugar in general causes belly fat
I know immediately you're full of shit. There is no such thing as targeted fat deposit. Sugar doesn't go to your belly on the basis that it's sugar any more than it goes to your feet. Your body ultimately breaks all carbs into basic sugars, it has no idea where the sugar came from. Where your body chooses to store fat is totally genetic. There is literally nothing you can do about it.

>>10723044
It really depends when and where you get the fruit. If you buy a local seasonal raspberry it will taste amazing. If you buy a raspberry at Walmart (or anywhere really) in the middle of winter it won't taste as good. This applies to nearly everything. Growing stuff in greenhouses and shipping it thousands of miles away seriously ruins flavor but people are so used to having the same fruit and veg available all the time that they don't even realize what stuff is actually supposed to be available when.

>>10722747
I know that feel

>>10723043
Japanese people hardly grow a variety of fruits. Most of the strawberries they use in desserts are disgustingly unripe

>>10723044
The only time fruit "tastes like water" is if it's unripe. You should probably learn how seasons work

>>10723043
You can't be this stupid. You think a small island nation grows all its fruits?
>Japan imports about 60 percent of its food each year. Japan is the fourth-largest market for U.S. agriculture, accounting for $12.1 billion in U.S. exports in 2013.

>>10723053
Lol. people have no idea where their food comes from
>Well over in glorious Nippon we have the best and freshest fruits!
>Most fruit actually imported from burgerland

>>10722799
Hey dude you spelled "vapid" wrong and I don't know why you think anyone wants to hear the opinions of someone who sounds like a bad writer keeping as Elliot Rodgers or whoever.
Go have a little fap, drink some water, take a walk outside and reevaluate your life.

My dad kicked me out of his house because I said I'd go for a meet with my comm, according to him my life is too good

you guys really out here arguing about fruits lmao mango gang tho best fruit

>>10723065
How old are you

>>10723052
NTA

But the US is so obsessed with "value for money" that farmers deliberate grow oversized fruit. To grow fruit larger than normal usually it just increases its water content rather than actually increasing actual fruit content.

>>10723068
Not 20 yet

>>10723069
nta but desu it's better for fruit to have more water rather than sugar from a health and not taste perspective so idk if my fruit is less sweet. that said for baking or things where you want a lot of flavor there are US grown companies who actually grow smaller strawberries, etc. and focus on taste.

>>10723069
Kek sure anon. All those dreaded oversized US grown raspberries! So large!!

>>10723072
Do you have a job

>>10723014
I have no problem talking to men, actually.
It's just that any time I am in a situation where a woman could reasonably think "he might be flirting with me", it goes poorly.
If they are a cashier or an old woman or something, it's fine, but I try to make some surface level comment or start a conversation with a man, he reacts in a normal way showing some decent respect.
When I try to say something similar to some girl my age, I get one word replies or otherwise brushed off.
It's like above all else, they want to get out of the conversation while avoiding sending any signals they are interested in me.
I would totally understand most women doing that since they receive a lot of undesirable attention, but let me tell you it is literally every time.

>>10723078
then it sounds like there's something inherently off with the way you communicate. people who know you're not hitting on them just tolerate it because they know it won't get weird. but anyone who thinks you might be trying to hit on them is obviously not going to want to continue talking to you. it's not just your appearance, because ugly dudes make female friends all the time

>>10723076
I don't, I'm in college and I work like 2 or 3 months per year in the summer break
I do have some money to survive a short period of time, it's just I'm kinda still sad this happened
Thanks for the attention

>>10723074
Fruit should be about taste, it would at least encourage more people to eat healthy.

>>10723075
You can just admit you don't know how food grows.

>>10723090
Raspberries aren't enlarged here because that's not what anyone cares about when they eat a raspberry. They care about sweetness. Peas and other shit are swollen with water beyond tasting good, yes. But bite into any watermelon in the US and it's like eating sugar

>>10723089
Just call him, pretend you don't have any money, feign an emotional breakdown and start sobbing and wailing, thank him profusely when he accepts you back into his house. I don't understand how people get to age 18 without understanding how to manipulate men. Even if you're a man that's no excuse.

>reasonably attractive pretty boy
>every time I try to talk to a girl they're enthusiastic at first but after a couple minutes become uncomfortable due to my autism
>it bothers me when people are uncomfortable so I just apologize for talking to them and walk away
It's over isn't it.

>>10723092
why would he/she even want to though? at that point just move out and be rid of him

>>10723097
Wdym? It's literally free money for no real cost, the only thing it would cost would be your pride but why would you have pride? Parents exist to milk for as much money as possible, why walk away from the supple teat of free money?

>>10722845
I know this board is full of dumbasses and anachans but holy shit you take the cake. Yes you lose body weight and gain a negligent amount of muscle from lifting weights. No you don't get jacked as a gymbro from lifting light dumbbells. A simple google search would have prevented you from embarrassing yourself this much.

>Ever having weight problems
lmao fatties

>>10723101
My BMI is 18 and I feel obese, does that count as a weight problem?

>>10723100
>reading comprehension
anon said there are better ways of losing weight fat fuck

>>10723092
>women having zero dignity

>>10723106
NTAYRT but body dysmorphia is no joke

>>10723108
I'm a man. It Just Works.

>>10723096
Don't know how autism works for guys, but you can try to slow down and avoid topics that may trigger your overenthusiasm on first meetings. If the girl already knows you have autism it won't be a problem if you're not disrespectful or acting like a scrote. If she knows, and is stupid about it, it's better for you to never talk to her again. (I'm assuming you're looking for a long-term relationship)

>>10723078
>When I try to say something similar to some girl my age, I get one word replies or otherwise brushed off.
Maybe it's the situation? At this point this is a guessing game, but depending on where you live most women might act suspiciously when a man randomly approach them on the streets, or sit together with them in a cafe (happened more than once with me and I had to move tables... Don't do that.), or send them a private message. Have you tried talking to them online, like Twitter, for example? Do they also react strongly to your way of online typing / talking to them? If not, it probably has to do with either the context of interaction or your wording.

>>10723114
>(I'm assuming you're looking for a long-term relationship)
Yeah but I guess my main problem is casual sex disgusts me, and it seems like the only girls who share my interests and feel the same are always really socially anxious, and it makes me really uncomfortable to talk to someone when I feel like they're uncomfortable.

>>10723130
>are always really socially anxious
Ah well, that's half the population right now... Anyway, I'm sorry that I cannot offer any substantial advice. I'm, myself, quite socially anxious, and I met most of my friends and my husband through social media such as Twitter, PSN, MiRC etc. while sharing common interests and casually commenting on each other's updates. From a woman's perspective, it's always nice to have someone to chill-talk about out shared interests, regardless of the gender. It's when the person starts to send dubious messages or to insist too much on flooding and on being inconvenient (like sending hello everyday and complaining of not receiving fast answers) that we start to get uncomfortable (but that's for everyone, not only for women).

Why are you people so obsessed with calling each other fat lol it's so pathetic and sad

>>10723141
Lolita is designed for people who are not fat. Here probably have eating disorders and are projecting. Ana chans are just the most insufferable cry babies on the planet. Cosplayers who are not fat are going to do better cosplayers. On top of that, most moids here like calling every woman fat every time they point out that their waifu is photoshopped.

>>10723147
>Here probably have eating disorders and are projecting. Ana chans are just the most insufferable cry babies on the planet.
Yeah, I figured this was the case. I think a lot of people need to have it spelled for them on here: when someone's actually content with their body, they don't post all day on cgl screaming "FAAAT" at other anons. You can smell how insecure they are through their posts, it's actually really sad. The proanas on here are truly a cancer, and only contribute to the amount of low self esteem women have on here.

>>10723141
It truly is. Even when someone is actively trying to better themselves and lose weight, they are still called fatty. It's cruel but this fashion and community is ruthless and mean because for some reason we must compete with each other over bodies and expensive wardrobe/cosplays in a fashion/hobby where we are scrutinized from the outside.

>>10723151
It's not about "competition", I just don't want to have to ever look at ugly people, and if you're over 140lbs regardless of sex or gender you're ugly. If you're fat stay inside, lose weight, or kys. You fat beasts make me want to suicide when I see you.

>>10723179
Exactly this. Fat people are just repulsive. It's like making fun of pedophiles: no one is "jealous" for humiliating them.

>>10723179
But explain to me why it's also okay to hate people for actively trying to get better (if they are trying)? How does that help anyone strive to do better exactly? And don't you think that people know that they're fat? Like... mirrors don't exist or something?
And before you go "lol fatty", I'm actually an ex-fat. I've seen both sides to this.

>>10723185
No one is hating on them. They just call them fatties because, well, they're fat. No one is saying "don't try to lose weight". You sound like a mad, sensitive fattie desu kek

Why do people pretend cosplay isn't just for guys to masturbate to when almost all female cosplayers have trash proportions? They're all way too curvy and feminine to look good in any fashion, there's a reason most fashion models are flat and skinny, clothing looks better when you have no curves. It's a shame because in theory I actually like a lot of the types of outfits cosplayers wear, they just look like shit because they're worn by women who would never look good in anything.

>>10722561
Food. Invite him to food. If some girl invited me on a date I'd deny her- sounds like a trap. But a chance to get food? Even if I gotta pay, heck yeah!

>>10723179
>using based ryo to spout your cringey cancerous trash
Can you livestream your suicide please?

>>10723207
How about I livestream your murder?

Man how did you morons go from genetically modified fruit to talking about regional fruit. Fruit was bred, like dogs to be the way they are today. They are not a natural occurrence. The majority are literally -fake.-

My whole point is you cut out sugar and you'll be doing better for yourself nutritionally

>>10723208
Holy underage

>at a hangout
>one of the two girls there recently broke up with her BF
>her friend (a guy) asks if I have a girlfriend out of the blue
>I go no
>he asks what sorts of girls I like
>basically go full autism trying to explain that too many people have only media consumption as their main thing and I want someone passionate about some hobby (literally any) since I try to differentiate my hobbies + interests to be more multifaceted

I might actually be autistic, but I also spent too much time just thinking about ideal girlfriends while never having one. fuuuuuck

>>10723224
Just say "I like girls that resemble [insert ur waifu]". Pretty much any character in the Nasuverse is the ideal woman.

>>10723224
That's kind of cute though

>>10723179
Yup based
Doesnt help that it always means there's a problem with self-control

I've been the same weight for ten years, but my body changed in shape over time after I stopped working out. I want to work out again but I've never been this out of shape where everything hurts and my flexibility is gone, so I have no idea what is a good way to gradually get back to the intensity of the workouts I used to do. It's starting to stress me out.

I always watch subs, not dubs, so idk who the fuck most current con guests are. Kind of a bummer with no Japanese guests.

>>10723305
Imagine thinking watching subs makes you special. I only watch anime in Japanese, the way God intended.

>>10723307
I didn't say it was special, stop projecting. I feel bummed and disappointed that I don't know English VAs, which is the opposite feeling

>>10723317
Most Dub VAs are trash. The only good ones are the guys who are legit VAs and do a bunch of shit like video game and cartoon character voices.

>>10723123
my main experience for this reaction would be at every con I've been to, it's no surprise I would have had that experience given that I am posting here.
I would never just sit down at somebody else's table, I'm not that kind of creep.
The only social media platform I use is 4chan(nel).
I suppose this sort of negative reaction does not happen online. After all, you have talked a considerable amount to me.
even in just this post I am replying to, you have said more of substance to me than any real-life woman just trying to be nice... in my entire life.
even growing up I don't think I ever managed to get several sentences like that out of any girl when talking to her in person.

>>10723327
bruh do you not go to school or work? you just shoot the shit with people in your spare time

>>10723328
I go to uni, almost done.
It has worked just fine with men, but any time I try with a woman, even at designated social events, I get brushed off without fail.

>>10723329
that just mean they aint into it innit. do you just talk to random birds or do you have a type you into?

>>10723331
I try to talk to people indiscriminately. Mostly I just talk to women hoping that one day they will treat me normally.
I probably don't have anything interesting to say, but usually other men will make an attempt if I seem interested in talking.

>>10723334
>I try to talk to people indiscriminately.
at least you're sociable. I dont really like talking to new people unless I really have to. for girls I'd say try to be more funny than interesting. funny is pretty universal but what you find interesting might not be for others especially if they're normies. you can try asking them non controversial/personal questions and just let them talk. then respond base on what they say. I'd never really tried it but I read somewhere that said if you ask people to do simple and easy tasks they tend to have a better opinion of you because people like to feel helpful. since you're in uni maybe go up to a girl and ask to borrow a pen but remember to return it after the class or it'd be counterintuitive

>>10722075
Any strategy that enables you to eat less calories than you consume is going to make you lose weight. A deficit of 500kcal/day usually results in in a weight loss rate of 0.5kg/week, so you do the math.
>one thing a day
Some people are very comfortable with that type of diet, others need to eat throughout the day. You're the only one who knows what kind of diet you can handle.

>>10723147
Isn't lolita literally seen as a fat girl fashion in Japan? Skinny fashionable girls aren't wearing meringue dresses.

>>10722075
Sounds retarded. Eat less carbs and exercise before breakfast. Weight loss isn't magic and there is no shortcut.

t. dropped 30% bodyweight and three dress sizes last year

>>10723357
"fat" by japanese standards is still skinny in the west

>>10723362
Stop using the term Western when you mean American.

>>10723364
I mean white people but go off

>>10723364
The difference in fatness levels of Europeans and Americans is negligible

>>10723367
Lmao. You can't actually believe this right?

Obesity in Europe isn't even near the levels found in the US.

>>10723362
Everytime someone says this, you know they're American. No, burger, everywhere else we know how to recognize a skinny body versus a fat one. You're the ones with media brainrot who exists inside of a hambeast versus skelly binary.
Like this >>10723179 retard.

lol I had to drop out of going to Katsucon because I have to move my disabled dad. Which is a bummer but responsibilities come first. Now it's looking like he might be living with me because the senior community just won't call us back for the lease signing.

>>10723376
glad both my parents are pieces of shit so my siblings can deal with them.

>>10723367
UK maybe, mainland Europe is way less fat than you burgers.

Why does every thread on /cgl/ devolve into talking about weight? Do you guys never get tired of rehashing the arguments year after year? I'm tired of sifting through this repetitive garbage to find fresh posts

>>10723374
>>10723383
I mean you could just go ahead and look it up yourself. Most European countries sit around 25% obesity rate while Japan's is 5%.

>>10723441
Fine then, what do you want to talk about?

>>10722124
No, I got their pastries that have whole raspberries in them. The other problem was that the lycee they used was way too sweet?

That said I went back and got their hazelnut pastry and it was fucking amazing. So I guess I'm just not a fruit girl? Its the rectangle thing pictured below. 10/10 on that

>>10722128

Temper your expectations senpai

>>10723540
...you just discovered that you don't like fruit?

>>10723329
Then there's something wrong with you. This is severely abnormal. Do you say everything in a creepy monotone voice like an autist? Better question, do you straight up have autism?

>>10723540
This looks like grocery store raspberries which are rarely great. I wouldn't expect these raspberries to taste amazing from the picture. Probably just sour, watery and with some raspberry taste?

>>10723365
Americans aren't white you daft cunt

>>10723559
nobody has time to give you a whole anthropology lesson but tl;dr race definitions literally differ by country

>>10723078
It's a completely reasonable reaction though. I've completely given up on talking to girls. Every single time I've tried to talk to them I quickly realized that they were worthless, after enough times being disappointed I just brushed off any girl or guy who tried to talk to me. Now I just don't interact with people. There's nobody in this world worth caring about. Why should anyone give anyone else a single moment of time.

>>10723569
kek pathetic

>>10723571
Yeah, the world is pathetic.

>>10723572
Cope

>>10723575
You're awful Murray

>>10723569
>"There's nobody in this world worth caring about. Why should anyone give anyone else a single moment of time."
>Literally spends your time responding to people on 4Chan in a feels thread

???

>>10723578
4chan posters aren't human

>>10723578
On a board that’s majority girls too. What a cringe little boy

>>10723579
4chan posters are arguably the worst humans to spend your precious time on kek

>>10723582
YWNBAW
This board hasn't been majority female since 2017

>>10723455
What's your point your retard? Europeans don't try to convince themselves that a BMI of 30 is normal.

>>10723546
I have no idea how to not have a creepy voice.
I'm on 4chan, so there must be something socially wrong with everyone here, but I am not a total failure at behaving normally like cris-chan

>>10723592
Yeah and? My point is that when Japanese girls say lolita is for fatties they aren't talking about girls with a BMI of 30, dumbass. Good luck even finding someone that fat there to begin with. Keep coping whitoid.

>>10723593
there's a pandemic, some of us used to go here when we were teens. I'd be hesitant to say there is something wrong with everyone here, but there's something wrong with everyone's mental stability during the pandemic in general.

>>10723593
I'm someone else and I suck at socializing myself but do you give your voice an artificially high pitch, I find that to be demeaning to the other characters when main characters in anime have that. If you without noticing it makes your voice sound very artificially high pitched when you talk to women that can probably be very insulting and maybe creepy if you're obviously changing your voice to be more liked or seem innocent

>>10723587
kek pulling a random year out of your ass to make it seem more legit. News flash since cosplay scene died because of covid this board has been overran by lolitas. Cringey pseudo intelligence little boy. Trying to be “le people aren’t worth my time I could have friends and a gf if I wanted to but my time is valuable” Why are you here rope yourself loser

>>10723596
nta but people keep telling me I sound gay is that what you mean by the high pitch? I try to make myself sound deeper but it sounds like those kids trying to be like corpse and that’s embarrassing

>>10723602
Maybe I used the wrong word but when you try to make yourself sound lighter(?)
People may also commonly talk like that to children and it's like you aren't yourself you're making yourself simpler to be understood? No not that, I really can't explain, but it really rubs me the wrong way when male anime characters talk like that to female characters.
Changing your voice a little bit to seem happy to talk to them or something is probably fine but if you sound strained or it sounds forced then I imagine it can be quite bad.
Again though I'm very bad at social interaction so don't take anything I say as fact I don't really have many/any/depends friends myself

>>10723596
uhh, I don't think I change my pitch, maybe it does sound monotone. Didn't think it would be creepy just because I don't change the pitch depending on who I'm talking to, but then again you say that would be creepy.

>>10723461
I want to talk about sewing. Specifically, how the FUCK do figure out how much you'll need ahead of time so it doesn't bunch and stretch and warp fabric in weird ways???

>>10723594
No shit dumbass. My point is the European and Japanese relative points to classify someone is fat is completely different to the American point and are much closer together. Therefore America is not the western standard you dumb cunt.

>>10723614
Seethe harder lard ass man face whitey, you'll never look good in lolita or cosplay

>>10723606
Trust me, monotone pitch isn't your problem. I speak very monotone to the point there is a running joke at my workplace I'm actually a robot. I still have a girlfriend.

It's not being monotone.

>>10723593
>I am not a total failure at behaving normally like cris-chan
It sounds like you're an A-log. He also thinks he's some well-adjusted normal person because he's not Chris-chan. The lack of self-awareness is an issue for you.

>>10723616
Post body.

>>10723618
This guy is so bad at socializing that he literally has not been able to hold a conversation with any woman ever. The issue is probably not just one thing, and it's certainly not something you can fix over 4chan. He's probably just autistic.

>>10722800
>(I think cargo pants look coo
Oh no no no no

>>10723622
What, you want some thinspo, fatty?

>>10723619
who are you talking about? I don't know what A-log means but you are saying I am acting like some person who prides himself on not being chris-chan?
Even if I have little self awareness in talking to others, my life isn't a wreck like it is for him, even before he went to prison.
I don't have any obsessive interests nor delusions.
>>10723624
is it over?

>>10723623
It really could just be that I am ugly.
is that so hard to believe?
I have no problems holding a conversation with anyone who would never consider that I might be flirting

>>10723627
C'mon, post body.

>>10723631
You first, just remember no matter how much you starve yourself you'll always have your mannish white person bone structure.

>>10723635
Cope.

Post body.

>>10723637
Seething fatty or retard scrote which one are you?

>>10723639
Post body.

>>10723628
Literally A-log.

>>10723630
No, not at all. Ugly men have platonic conversations with women all the time. Several of my friends are men I consider ugly. Never being able to converse with women is extremely abnormal.

>>10723640
>waaah give me free jerk off material
neck yourself idiot

>>10723642
Alright, confirmed fatty.

>>10723641
how old are you?
maybe it just the way things are for younger men.
I is hard to imagine where I would even talk to them, wherever I see them, they are talking to other women, or they are with a boyfriend.

>>10723644
you tried

>>10723544
Believe it or not, I've never had a fruit tart or any sort of dessert that had actually fruit in it. I just assumed I wouldn't like it without ever trying it.

>>10723547
That's exactly how it tasted! This whole thing sent me down a rabbit hole of seasonal fruit, now I know what to lookout for lmao

>>10723648
I'm in my 30s.

It sounds like you're desperately trying to blame your looks so you can pretend that it's completely out of your hands and you can place the blame on others for being shallow. Being an ugly fat man might prevent you from getting laid or finding a girlfriend, sure, but it does not stop you from having platonic conversations or making female friends. There wasn't a single man I knew in school who couldn't talk to women at all, unless they were socially retarded in some way. Literally walk into any anime club or tabletop gaming place, and there are plenty of ugly fat men who talk to women easily.

Also what are you even talking about? Do you not work or go to school? Are you not a part of any clubs or anything? Why do you even need to talk to women alone anyway?

>>10723651
Holy shit, this is actually sad to read. What new level of being sheltered is this?

>>10723659
idk what to say, I just don't eat fruit

I do like pawpaws tho

>>10723668
I mean you didn't even know how seasons work in relation to fruits and vegetables. How old are you?

>>10723656
I am considerably younger, in university, probably a decade or more.
The girls here largely aren't talking to men in class, or between classes. I don't see it happen often.
most of the time they are on their phones, even when walking, but to be fair, I am too.
It is considered rude to try to get someones attention when they are reading for the sole purpose of trying to socialize with them.
I believe the power to simply swipe people away on dating apps has gone to the head of anyone desirable. It bleeds over to real life.
you are asking why I "need" to talk to women alone? this was part of a long comment chain, originally I was lamenting lack of friendliness trying to socialize, but obviously I have a tentative life goal of someday having a relationship. I've never actually developed a crush on any girl, to be honest. I never got the chance to, because they simply did not interact with me in any way which could allow me to suspend my disbelief, and imagine a possibility of a relationship.

Someday, I would like to feel what that is like.

>>10723680
NTA But you're a retard.

Nobody thinks it's okay or needed to approach people randomly in public. Get a hobby, involve yourself in study groups, offer and/or ask for help on assignments, do anything that would involve talking to women outside of the sole pursuit of a relationship, etc. Just cold approaching someone is weird unless that person is in the 1% of people who like cold approaches.

You put women on a pedestal that they're are somehow not regular people. Just talk to them like regular people.

>>10723680
College is the place where it is the absolute easiest for ugly men to befriend women. You've never been assigned a group project, or gone to a party, or joined a club? Or done any of those things in high school? Literally all of these options are where people make friends, both male and female. Of course you can't approach strangers of either gender while they're walking between classes or in the library. That's incredibly stupid.

You need to learn how to talk to women normally as friends before you go try talking to them alone and flirting with them. But I think you're autistic so I don't know if this is even possible.

>>10723680
Do you have male friends that you hang out with regularly? And I'm talking about visiting their place, going to a party together, or even just getting together to play DnD or something. If so, do they have female friends?

>>10723601
Lolita fashion is terrible and only BPD "people" have ever liked it since it began

>>10723624
Cargo pants do look cool, nearly all the men and women in my workplace wear them.

>>10723704
Cargo pants are work wear. Not fashion.

>>10723698
I do, all of them are like me they have no female friends however some of them have girlfriend.
they don't like talking to me.
>>10723697
I have joined clubs and gone to events before. There are at least several women in the anime club.
none of them like talking to me, but most of the guys there seem to be friends with me, just from normal conversation.

>>10723721
My guess is, your personality is just ass.

>>10723791
^^agreed

>>10723698
Yeah, most of my guy friends have a girl friend, friends who are women, and friends who are men. They have basic social skills.

>>10723612
Oh yeah that
Practice,lmao

>>10723612
Are you working with knit or woven fabrics?

Knit fabrics can warp if you don't let the fabric lay flat and rest before cutting your pattern pieces.

Woven fabrics can shrink if you don't wash the fabric before cutting the patterns.

>>10723612
Also pinning or clipping the fabric together while sewing helps keep it in place. A pin or clip every hand width apart to keep it together.

>>10723791
>>10723830
does that mean I could be saved?
how can I present my personality better?

>>10723881
Doesn't matter how you present a piece of shit. Find someone with a scat fetish. You're awful, but there are women who like to be in a relationship with awful people. Ugly mentally ill women, but it's something.

>>10723884
damn,
that's pretty bad. I thought I was just awkward at worst, what let to that comment?

>>10723885
You keep looking for validation from strangers online. Your entire post chain is the archetype of an extremely mentally unwell man. Maybe with a lot of therapy and medication you could have a somewhat normal relationship, maybe. But you're fucked up.

>>10723887
I feel like this is constructive, can you tell my what parts in particular? really I wasn't so much looking for validation as much as I was advice, or at first, just venting.

>>10723888
Like I don't know man you just seem like you have some type of sociopathy and can't understand human emotions. Systems therapy might help?

>>10723889
I can't be a sociopath, my dog broke her tooth trying to get out of the kennel almost a year ago and I still feel guilty about it.
But I do have a hard time judging peoples emotion some time, although I didn't think it was more than most people...
I just don't know why it is so different for women compared to men, why they treat me differently?

>>10723893
Feeling guilty is the biggest indicator you're a sociopath

>>10723898
I don't get it, why would feeling bad that I indirectly hurt my dog indicate I am a sociopath?

>>10723721
How did your friends meet their gfs if they never talk to women? How does a group of men in college not talk to women at all? What do you guys do together?

>>10723887
>>10723888
I don't think you're mentally ill like the other anon, just autistic and clueless. I don't think there's any hope for you honestly

>>10723889
Kek "systems". You're such a fucking clueless zoomer and this is horseshit advice

>>10723925
play videogames, go skiing, other outdoor activities. also I would say I am friends with the guys at the anime club.
those who got gfs got them through randomly chatting up strangers like I have tried. They just don't have a friend group that includes women.
>>10723927
worse than being told I have the worst treatable illness, you really think I can't get a clue?

>>10723928
Honestly, if you have never been able to have a conversation with a woman in your whole life, you are beyond help.

>discord that I was in for studying for medicine banned me for having the wrong political views
>"You can't discuss politics here."
>>"But you did it first, I'm just replying."
>"We don't have to platform any view we don't like."
>>"Yes you do. This discord is on open public invite and is a place of learning and discussion. It is your role as a future holistic physician to learn and reflect on many different viewpoints regardless of if you disagree."
>"Shut up. What you asked was blatantly offensive and incredibly disrespectful. We have the right to remove you."
>>"So as a doctor you're just not going to treat patients you disagree with? You're going to refuse to cooperate with your colleagues?"
>banned

God help the future of medicine. I didn't even state a controversial opinion, I just asked them to explain X if Y is true.

>>10723957
well what was the opinion though?

>>10723957
Being forced to tolerate a patient for their own comfort and care is not the same as being forced to tolerate some inflammatory retard in your discord channel kek. Just accept that they don't like hearing your right wing shit and move on. I don't go saying my beliefs to my coworkers because I'm smart enough to know they'll lose their shit as well.

>>10724019
Just the existence of a public holiday that has comes under scrutiny.

>>10724120
If you can't tolerate a person simply questioning your beliefs then I am firmly in the camp that you are going to be a fucking awful doctor, it shows an inflexibility of mindset and a lack of sympathy.

>doctor I have X problem
>>No you don't, you have Y problem
>But what about Z?
>>shut up I'm a doctor

>>10724151
If it really wasn't controversial you wouldn't be hesitant to say exactly what it was here.

>>10724156
I'm not about to out myself since the issue is very specific to my country. It's the same problem as many country's face with public holidays.

>oh this holiday celebrates X which is now politically incorrect and therefore should be abolished and anyone who doesn't think so is Y-ist.

>>10724162
Out yourself as what? Are you that scared people know you post on cgl?

>>10724164
I don't need to explain the general idea that most people don't want to mix 4chan and their other identities.

>>10724167
the only people who would recognize you are people who also come here though

>>10724170
I get your point
>oh so if they outed you, they would out themselves
However they're not on my side so whilst their own ingroup would recieve a pass, "Oh they just like cosplay/lolita" I would be condemned "muh racist 4channer qanon retard". There are also easy ways to anonymously distribute information and make it public. I also don't trust people involved in cancel culture not to zealously try and ruin my life with whatever information they can gather over a minor disagreement.

Anon, you really shouldn't need it explained as to why you should avoid giving any sort of identifying information on the internet or information which could be linked to your online profiles.

>>10724172
autism. If I was a 4chan mod I'd ban you from 4chan too

>>10724181
It's autistic that you can't understand that you shouldn't put identifying information on 4chan. It's always weird that you're very insistent on others doing it.

>>10724182
I’d be more afraid of a schizo being in healthcare than whatever dumbshit you were trying to argue about in discord kek.
Do you really think some random study group discord is going to call you out for posting on /cgl/? I’m not insisting anything I just find you retarded. Holy shit 3rd world anons are fucking braindead

>>10724172
did you forget to take your meds today?

>>10724202
>can't argue the point
>Immediately call your opponent a schizo
Consider me sold.

I live in a first world country retard.

>>10724213
Don't be coy anon. You and I both know people have been doxxed for less.

>>10724215
>I live in a first world country retard
doubt. I already told you why I think you're schizo in the same post.

>>10724225
>doubt

Okay.

>>10723957
You need to learn how to hide your power-level at least until you're in a secure position in that type of profession. I'm also a doctor and learned when to keep my mouth shut.

>>10724286
I'm mainly posting this entire story because I was just astounded at how instant and overboard the response was. It was genuinely just a question asking for clarification given some other evidence seems to contradict their claim. I had never voiced any opinion on politics before that. The level of unwillingness to engage in discussion over something pretty minor and willingness to punish people for wrongthink genuinely shocked me.

Lesson learnt, I just made a new discord account to gain access to the learning materials anyway but I just felt the response was way beyond anything I expected.

I wish I had real friends, someone I could talk to more frequently than once every few months and that I could talk to about whatever. And that I wouldn't have to initiate every interaction and hold back to not annoy them too much.

I want to have casual sex with a girl and then cuddle the freezing cold away.

>>10724151
do you haven't spent time around many doctors, have you? a lot of them are intolerant, argumentative assholes with God complexes. but smiling and nodding to a stupid patient saying stupid things is pretty easy for them

>>10724717
One of my closest friends is currently specialising as an anaesthetist.

One of my closest family friends is a paediatrician.

From what I know, surgeons are generally the ones who sniff their own farts.

>>10724731
Kek I work with them and youre about to be very disappointed if you think surgeons are the only ones who behave like that.

I am sad again