/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10682082
Abunai also opened their ticket sales.
Now that abunai is in februari instead of august, that means viencon will have no competition that weekend. I am considering also buying a ticket for that one once it becomes available, but the cabins are pretty expensive for a friendless NEET like me.
Anyone who has been to viencon wanting to share some stories?

TomoFair Amsterdam
13 & 14 November 2021

>>10681947
>Facts my friend, they are there.
You need more of this.

>>10682229
Really? Are you this low? Do you really want to go there?

>>10682229
Please stop referencing drama from older threads. The last few threads. I don't want to see another thread hit bump limit with almost nothing but drama.

Do NOT reply to him.
Do NOT bait him.
It's clearly just one person.
He has no real arguments.
Please make it stop.

In more on topic terms, what are you guys' hopes for Animecon? I'm looking forward to seeing what activities they'll have now that we're back in "almost normal" world again. I also hope we'll see some cool new flavor of the month cosplays. Kinda sad we missed the whole ENA phase during the lockdown.

So. MIA basically gonna be tomo. Anyone here planning on checking this dumpsterfire out?

>>10682373
Maybe, it's next weekend, pretty close by for me, so I am tempted to go and have a look for myself.

>>10682375
With that next I mean the weekend after this weekend.

>>10682373
I see a lot of Tomo over there. Gamerooms, karaoke, ddr? Is this a collaboration between Tomo and MIA!?

>>10682373
The infamous pokemon bootleg plushie seller is also there.
Looks like the event will be one big hall with the main event being the dealerroom. But if the dealerroom will be a minefield of bootlegs then the event doesn't sound very promising.
https://www.made-in-asia.nl/nl/het-event/partners/

>>10682748
>The infamous pokemon bootleg plushie seller is also there.
And that famous sword seller.

>>10682450
No, its the same as DCC. Is that Tomo on all those things? so Tomo and others might be hired for just those activities, they get paid for it partially. MIA and DCC is all easyfairs who just hires alot of groups for stuff. Tomo does not run MIA.

>>10682748
It's the same for MIA in Brussels so no surprises there

>>10682242
>In more on topic terms, what are you guys' hopes for Animecon?
The return of the huge ass game room, hopefully again with arcade cabinets. For the dealer room I'm mostly interested in international dealers, they tend to have more rare/cool stuff and Dutch dealers you can easily buy from every day anyway. Events-wise I'm hoping for some interesting lectures. Aside from that the whiskey tasting is always a highlight, taiyaki shall be eaten and I'm looking forward to bumping into gulls and my old con acquaintances again.

>I also hope we'll see some cool new flavor of the month cosplays
Cosplay variety is going to be interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if at the first few conventions it will be a mix of cool things made and gone unworn during these past 2 years mixed in with whatever shows were popular. Also, Squid Game goons.

>>10683107
If you want arcade cabs just visit the national video game museum in Zoetermeer

>>10683483
>If you want arcade cabs just visit the national video game museum in Zoetermeer
U mad?

>>10683483
I've only been to bonami. How does the other one in Zoetermeer compare? There are also a few places that call themselves arcades but are basically gambling palors for children.
Those classic arcade cabinets really makes the gameroom feel complete. Especially the fist of the north star one. Everyone always seem to be having fun with that one. Hope those will return next animecon.

>>10683483
It's been in my list since forever, but from what I've gathered it's a nice location with a wide selection of games and extremely passionate volunteers. Having proper cabinets definitely enhances the game room experience, hence why I would love to see their return. IIRC they also provided the cabinets at the previous edition.

>>10683489
Are you ?

>>10683499
In my personal experience, the one in Zoetermeer is great, but I’ve never been to the other one. A lot of variety, really old stuff that gives some serious flashbacks, things that are literally older than I am, brand new stuff from Japan, everything you could possibly think off. They also have some old consoles set up in vintage looking living rooms. It is definitely worth checking out imo

>>10683489
Uhm.. no... The owner of the national video game museum in Zoetermeer is the guy who supplies the arcades to animecon. So if you go to animecon just for the arcades, it's a bad deal since a-con costs €45,- ~ €70,- for a day (depends when you buy your ticket) and you're only getting a small subset of what the video game museum has to offer for just €15,- a day!

The Christmas Special is 42 Euro's for both days. 25 for saturday from 10.00 till closing at 24.00 or later if covid permits or 22 for just the sunday from 10.00 until 20.00.

Also you pay a tenner per person for 2 hours at the national videogame museum, not the whole day as you said.

So are you still mad and salty!

>>10684606
Why would anyone go to animecon just for the arcades? If someone says they want to play the arcades at animecon that doesn't mean that's the only reason they go there, just that it's the highlight of the entire con for them.
Might as well skip the entire gameroom because you can emulate most of the games at home, or skip the amv compo because they are uploaded on youtube later anyway, skip the dealer room because you can get a better deal if you order it online or why bother karaoke when you can sing at home and rob your neighours of sleep.
Some things are just nice to have at a con and add to the entire experience. Or maybe some people enjoy those things more at a convention when they're with friends.

Back on topic: one thing I think is underrated at the con is the manga library. I know they also have a location in Utrecht somewhere, but at the con it's great to have a little quiet place where I can sit and relax and maybe read something when I want to escape from the hustle and bustle at that moment.

>>10684704
https://www.nationaalvideogamemuseum.nl/tarieven

Ah they increased it to 25 euros. (Used to be 15)
Still worth it tho.

>>10684831
Do they have a list of all the games there?

>>10684834
Not really, but they have a YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/c/NationaalVideogameMuseum
I know in the back they have a Japanese corner with:
- maimai
- groove coaster
- beatmania IIDX
- chunithm
- sound voltex
- pop'n music
- wacca
- reflec beat
- gundam extreme vs
- initial D zero

Amongst others...

>>10682373
I was unsure but have decided to pass on MIA. It's a real pain in the ass for me to get there and I doubt it would be worth the 3 hour trip and €25. Didn't really spot that many interesting dealers on the list either.

So how was MIA? From what I saw online it was okay with plenty of growing potential. Any personal experiences here?

>>10688401
>So how was MIA? From what I saw online it was okay with plenty of growing potential. Any personal experiences here?
Public transport is an issue, it is fine when you have a car or can get a lift from someone with a car, if you have rely on public transport not so much.

>>10688401
To me it looked as if the personnel was like "I don't get paid enough for this so I'm not going to put any effort in it"

Result, beautiful, professional looking stage, but the light show of an opera during deshima's J-core performance.
Or the food trucks being between the chairs where people are eating, which creates queueing lines in awkward places.
Oh and that karaoke with people's backs facing the public was just terrible.

They hired professionals, it looked professional, but I left with the feeling that they could've made better use of what they have. All the ingredients for an awesome event were there, but the end result was a bit lackluster.

Think of it like a really expensive luxury wagyu A5 steak, which looked fantastic on it's plate, but when you take a bite you discover it's undercooked.

>>10688420
I like the comparison with an undercooked piece of Wagyu. You can send it back and it can get fixed. A lot of lessons were learned at this event, and I think they will improve a lot of them next time.

To me, it's very clear the organizers are people who do events for a living instead of people who had a meet-up once that grew too big (looking at any other convention in the Netherlands). They just lacked a bit of knowledge of our scene.

>>10688401
Public transport was the main problem that MIA didn't sold that many tickets. From one of the staff, heard they sold just under 6000 tickets over 2 days (from what I heard 2500 people on Saturday and 2000 people on Sunday), which is really not great to be honest.

The main stage was, well, not really that impressive. The audio configuration was so bad, that if you heard the after bass from a little further away, it just hurt your head, it was a dirty bass.. The treble and mid range was also, not good, and since Deshima Sounds would play there, this was extra noticeable for me and other people.

Did see here and there cosplays, the place looked professional put up, all places had been fenced in such a way that they were kind of islands, which made it feel like a DCC or Tweakers convention.

The people asking autographs, I literally only noticed one, and that was just because I heard the name before. Basically most of them were Twitch influencers..

It looked okay, but, and it's really awkward, Tomo had a much better setup for the main stage, and the audio was there much, much better. I'm not a fan of Tomo, but this is one of the things Tomo does very, very well.

>>10688401
Oh right, I forgot to mention, there were a ton of vendors, which was nice, and diverse enough to be interesting, but sadly most of it was either very expensive or not worth the money. Did visit a few workshops when you went up the escalator. Overall it was a nice convention, but you notice they need to work a lot on improving it, but I guess it could be expected, as MIA was taken over from Belgium I think (?), and just after Covid.

Don't know if anyone noticed it, but the air in MIA's congress center was incredibly dry. Got a sore throat because of it...

>>10688467
Yah it was. Had to drink a lot of water to keep my throat hydrated.

>>10688516
>Yah it was. Had to drink a lot of water to keep my throat hydrated.
Rule one, stay hydrated whatever the atmospheric conditions are inside or outside a venue!

>>10689307
Yeah, but this was rediculous. I was constantly switching between drinks and Vicks blue, still got a sore throat even though I drank almost 6 liters.
At home I put my air humidifier to 60% for 3 days. Didn't need to drink and my sore throat magically disappeared in 3 days.

Keeping humidity in check matters!

anyone going to brussels comic con this weekend?

Happy Halloween weebs! Hope you bought candy or Tully is going to have TP to your home! Here's to hoping this will be the scariest thing we'll see and not some new covid event ban plans.

I hope none of you went to Japan Fair Festival or any other related Japanese food festival.

Welp tomofair on Sunday got cancelled because of covid.

Saturday was pretty fun tho

DCC has been cancelled and will now be held in the weekend of March 26-27 2022.

Well, so far for conventions this year. Time to hibernate until February...

And there goes Animecon, also canceled.

>>10698808
Very sad but understandable. Things aren't looking so good right now with infection rates rising again.

>>10688401
I've been there 2 years ago, Is somewhat alright despite how my own family ruined the mood for me and my gf.
Most of the stuff is expensive but very varied, you can have some stands selling video game merch, jewelry, some fake guns (or replicas), metal swords of all sorts.
Also the place is stupidly big but you can basically sit anywhere as long as you don't obstruct the trafic. Didn't stay for concerts and such since i'm not really a giant fan of anime or k-pop.
On an unrelated note, i also recently went to ciney expo during halloween for military stuff, could cosplay as a member of U.N.I.T. from the old doctor who series if i could get the rest of the equipment.

Is there ANYTHING to attend?

>>10699738
Only TomoFair if they don't cancel.

>>10700299
If rules stay like this they have to continue due to contractual obligations, but I think we're heading towards a massive lockdown in the next 3 weeks, so chances that it will be cancelled are pretty high...

>>10700299
Which tomofair edition? Where will it be held?

>>10700678
Rotterda... I mean ... Capelle aan den IJssel. The worst one with the highest customer satisfaction for some bizarre reason.

And there goes Tomo

>>10701435
Zero surprises there.

>>10701435
Why do they choose to refund and why DCC doesn't?

>>10701981
Cause weirdly enough, tomo takes responsibility for their customers.

>>10698808
and nothing of value was lost

>>10702003
First time for everything, I guess.

>>10703230
First time ?
Then you haven't follow a thing...
If there is someone following the law, it's Tomo.
The other conventions just do whatever they think is good, not that it is a good thing that they cancel everything on basis of little information.
The last times they organized something, when people went ape-crazy, there was already a decline in infected people.. which isn't currently the case...

>>10703670

>>10703804

>>10703897
Brian just stop shilling your shitty convention already. It's been going on for long enough and it's not funny anymore.

https://twitter.com/NYCHealthCommr/status/1466457114784768000
In America there is at least one omicrom case at an anime convention.
I wonder how this will play out. Might turn out a good example what will happen to conventions over here or how they will handle these kind of scenarios, if they don't get cancelled again that is. I kind of have a bad feeling with this new variant spreading.

>>10703670

Your English gives me a stroke. Please use Google Translate next time if you have more interesting things to say.

Listen. Last year was a shit time to organise anything, and to make it look like something it wasn't, was even shittier.
As you may have noticed, numbers are still not good, and the only right thing to do is to decide to not run your show.

AnimeCon decided to not run their show, DCC decided to not run their show, and Tomo finally decided to not run their show, but only after they wanted to ask the community, which sounds like a social thing to do, but this also shows that Tomo staff didn't have the balls to decide for themselves.

A pity, really, but count your blessings.

Thanks to all the efforts of Covid deniers, Corona is here to stay, and it will take more time to get to a situation where we can live with it and do our thing.

As for the immediate future: I don't see Abunai happen either, if I'm completely honest.

>>10704216


They still haven't announced anything about the hotel rooms so far so I don't see Abunai happening in February.

>>10703927
I'm not Brian... He would be much more annoying though. What made you think I was Brian ? Lol.

>>10704216
First of, my English is better then most of the native speakers scribbling around like a 8 year old child. Secondly, Tomo didn't organise it on basis from a discussion with their community, but with the governing organisation of the location.

Thirdly, please stop pretending you know everything, you don't.

>>10704837
>First of, my English is better then most of the native speakers scribbling around like a 8 year old child.

First off, you forgot an f, and the comparative word 'than' is written with an a.

>Secondly, Tomo didn't organise it on basis from a discussion with their community, but with the governing organisation of the location.

No? Please take a look at this screenshot I just took.

>Thirdly, please stop pretending you know everything, you don't.

No. I'll be the first to admit I don't know everything. But I'm capable of filing in the blanks.

You know, there are two types of people in this world: those who can extrapolate from insufficient data,

Ah, and then I forgot an L in filling. Oh well.

>>10703670
>If there is someone following the law, it's Tomo.
As proven by the many bootlegs...

>The other conventions just do whatever they think is good, not that it is a good thing that they cancel everything on basis of little information.
DCC had to cancel, as they could not find a format to run under these rules. With that many people, it makes sense.
Animecon canceled because everybody with more than 2 brain cells could see these rules would not be lifted when they would run. And apparently deciding on it early allowed the vaccination centre ro set upbweeks earlier. So props for them being decisive and clear about it.

Seriously, these events were not early, you guys were still late. And we are all well aware that you have most likely tried to wiggle around the rules, as you have done during this entire pandemic.

So, no mate, don't make yourselves look like the hero in this story. You were forced to cancel just like all the others. Only you were slow to grasp that.

>>10704837
>First of, my English is better then most of the native speakers scribbling around like a 8 year old child.
Irony at its finest, all in one sentence.

You are both such cringeworthy retards.

>>10704986
Hee look I have the same one and I was and still am not allowed to react on Tomo facebook-messages, let a alone leave a like behind.

>>10704986
> First off, you forgot an f, and the comparative word 'than' is written with an a.
So basically you're triggered at a single typo. Must be frustrating talking with people from the United States, that even they have a hard time typing properly in "English"... hehe..

> No? Please take a look at this screenshot I just took.

Yeah, they first asked the opinion of the public, but I was told by the staff themselves that eventually they received a no-go from the governmental department, so even if people said "Yes let's continue!" it wouldn't anyway. I do agree this ain't the right way to do it, as it had a backlash before, but then again, if the governing organization allowed it, and a big part of the community accept the regulations, I don't still see a issue. However, in this post, you see clearly they are aware of the rising infections.

> No? Please take a look at this screenshot I just took.

Alright, I agree I was wrong on that point, however, they were told by the governmental organization it would be ill-advised to have the event continue, even though they asked the public. They eventually cancelled it based on the rising number of infections with COVID, and not because of the voting of publics (from a reliable source). Either way, they choose the best choice, which is cancelling, so you should be happy they choose for that, instead of shit-talking about them asking the public.

> No. I'll be the first to admit I don't know everything. But I'm capable of filing in the blanks.

That's good that you can fill in the blanks, it's not what I expect much from people here, or let stand on social media, so that's a thumbs up to you I guess ;)

> You know, there are two types of people in this world: those who can extrapolate from insufficient data,

You ended it with a comma, god what bad writing do you have.. ;)
Anyway, I can accept my mistakes, compared to some people here...

>>10705291
> As proven by the many bootlegs...

The last times I've been there, there were none, so unless you got evidence that they are not doing anything they can about it, I would say, you're lying.

> DCC had to cancel

Yes, because the governing department of the place told them and forced them to...

> as they could not find a format to run under these rules.

The place there didn't allow any "market"-format to be taken place anyway, so even if they did change the format, it wouldn't be allowed anyhow...

> Animecon canceled because everybody with more than 2 brain cells could see these rules would not be lifted when they would run.

The Dutch government is known for changing their stances often, so never say never. Besides, Tomo is well aware of the emergency, they even explained this a lot of times, so I'm not sure if you even used your braincells...

> Animecon canceled because everybody with more than 2 brain cells could see these rules would not be lifted when they would run.

Good for them, as I said in the thing you quoted, but that doesn't mean all of them have to jump from the same cliff. Tomo eventually decided to cancel their stuff as well, on basis of government chats, but also the public so it seems said it wouldn't be a good idea, so I honestly see no point in going on on this...

> Seriously, these events were not early, you guys were still late. And we are all well aware that you have most likely tried to wiggle around the rules, as you have done during this entire pandemic.

Excuse me, "you guys" ? I'm not in any way a staff or crew, I think you must be confusing me with them. If they are told by the government it's perfectly fine in the format they organize it, it's not called "wiggle around", they are following the law, and they would cancel it immediately when it is told so, so stop making up stuff.

> So, no mate, don't make yourselves look like the hero in this story.

... talking about assumptions...

>>10705498
>Excuse me, "you guys" ? I'm not in any way a staff or crew,
Then why are you shilling out for them?

>>10705574
There is no "shilling" involved...

Sooooo, pointing out people's wrong opinions is the same as "shilling"? So when I say something about a other convention, and you defend it, then you're a shill for that convention as well?
Right, good luck with calling the whole 4chan board an "shill".
Also, I think I've been quiet clear about when I am wrong, and will actually say so, but nobody else here seems to have the balls or morals to accept that their opinion maybe doesn't matter, cause it's untrue, well, except for being a total ass, but that's classic 4chan behavior here, not that I'm surprised.

Have a good Christmas either way, but try reflect on yourself about your own remarks, not that you would give 2 shits about it.

At this point I'm starting to believe that TomoAnon is just a very elaborate troll that consistently appears to grind our collective gears.

>>10705595
It's not that strange that staff of conventions and other weeb organizations lurk these threads. (Remember "kritische zeemeeuwen" ?). It is a place where people can freely discuss and criticize cons so for the cons it can provide some useful feedback.
As for tomo, those who spoke to the staff personally know that they are posting here, or at least one of them is. If the shitposter currently derailing the thread really is a tomo staff, a troll or just a tomo whiteknight like he claims to be, we can't tell for sure. It's all anonymous after all.

>>10705597
The only one derailing the discussion are the ones who cannot respect someone elses opinion, and calling people shills does not really contribute to anything, other then being frustrated that someone else has a different opinion, which is pretty sad.

>>10705711
Why would one be required to respect your opinion, especially if that opinion is based on facts that are wrong or even a blatant lie. Tell me why?

>>10705732
>Why would one be required to respect your opinion

So basically, you don't give a crap and call out a person about their opinion? How rude.

>especially if that opinion is based on facts that are wrong or even a blatant lie.

That is your opinion, but you have no idea what you're talking about, other that I do have correct information, except for that one point about Tomo asking the public about what to do, which I still think is not an bad thing, but I guess you like to find something to throw stuff at. In the end, they cancelled it based not from the public, but from other sources, but I guess that is a lie too? Suuuuure.

>Tell me why?

You honestly asking this? Are YOU trolling me right now with this stupid question? You expect respect, but expect to talk dirt on someone else? How naïve must you be?

>>10705749
>So basically, you don't give a crap and call out a person about their opinion? How rude.
No not rude, but a harsh reality.

Because you think that your opinion is a fact and therefore in your mind it is true than you will be called out upon it.

I don't have to respect opinions just like you don't have to.

I can't find the comment about being triggered by the bad English anymore, but no, it wasn't a trigger. It was, though, a very nice thing of you to completely miss the point. Usually, when someone states something bold about their own proficiency of something, that someone should lead by example. If someone point out that your English is of pre-school level, and you go like: "I can do better." but fail, then you will be schooled.

>>10705498
> The last times I've been there, there were none, so unless you got evidence that they are not doing anything they can about it, I would say, you're lying.

The fact that shops like Henk, A4U, Idle, Fabion are still welcome with Tomo, is sufficient evidence to continue the claim that Tomo doesn't give a rat's arse about bootleg, since those shops also carry bootleg at other shows, if they're still welcome at those shows. I'm not sure if Henk's still part of the Tomo family, but the others definitely are.

> Tomo eventually decided to cancel their stuff as well, on basis of government chats, but also the public so it seems said it wouldn't be a good idea, so I honestly see no point in going on on this...

The fact that they got a major shitstorm over their heads a year ago because of the same thing, should have made them realise that it wasn't a good idea to run the show. DCC never asked their visitors. AnimeCon never asked their visitors. They just did what they thought was right, and canceled the show. Period.
If Tomo learned even the tiniest thing from Zwolle-gate last year, then they would have followed suit without asking.

That's all there is to it, really. I was very surprised, but then again not really, to see Amsterdam taking place despite the numbers and the new decrees being announced.

1/2

>>10705749
> So basically, you don't give a crap and call out a person about their opinion? How rude.

Bacically because you sound like a pedantic little prick with few redeeming qualities, writhing and wiggeling while trying to talk things right, whereas every sane person with half a brain cell sees right through you.

2/2

Consider yourself schooled.

>>10705938
Yah, I guess I was right, you are a huge ass troll, nothing to add more about this. Have a nice christmas though.

Friendly reminder!

>>10682242

It's one and the same autist starting this discussion every time. You should see by now that he has no real arguments. Please stop replying to him.

Now that that's said (again), what do you guys think the odds are of Abunai pulling through? I'm really looking forward to it so I hope the govt will give an "everything under control" sign by mid January.

>>10705977
An under control will never happen. It's a virus like influenza which will never goes away. At the most they can fight it with vaccinations, and us people creating a defense against it with our immune system to be honest.

>>10705977
They haven't opened the hotel reservations yet, which makes me worry.
With a bit of luck the amount of infections will have lowered a bit, though last year christmas caused a big spike so who knows.

>>10705977
It's tricky, Austria had their peak about 3, 4 weeks earlier and they are past it. So based on that, we might expect that we are now more or less at the worst moment.
The problem is, will this be a double peak due to the winter and Christmas holidays, and how will it pan out with this Omicron variant.
Your guess is as good as mine.

>>10705977
>Now that that's said (again), what do you guys think the odds are of Abunai pulling through?
I don't think the odds of Abunai happening in February are on our side. Of course all of this is pure speculation and we won't know for sure until any announcement is made. But it's only 2.5 months until the planned date and we haven't really heard anything regarding hotel reservations or convention content. Their silence at this point in time really speaks for itself. If they're by now not focused on promoting their convention, they are likely focused on working out another postponement. After all, this is a large event and these simply can not afford to wait until last minute to decide to continue, adjust or postpone. There are simply too many parties, contracts and money involved for this.

>>10705996
Also, Austria went into a complete lockdown. I don't see that happening here so your guess is as good as any.

And there it is, Abunai has been postponed to August 12th - 14th. Can't say I'm too surprised considering how things are going covid-wise.

>>10707518
Oh no! It is way too early to decide this. How can they be so irresponsible!!!!

Nah, wise choice. We all see where the situation is heading.

>>10707518
Turns out there may have been a secret hunger games.
On the day of the announcement the hotel rooms weren't blocked yet. I was thinking of booking one but I wasn't sure if I was able to get refunds if I would cancel my room. Did anyone still manage to grab one?
Although summer is still far away and it looks like things are slowly getting better, last summer things also went south very quickly and many events had to cancel everything last minute. So I didn't book and now I missed my chance.

>>10708012
>Turns out there may have been a secret hunger games.
Sounds more like NH messed up rather than some planned top secret hunger games to me. If that's the case I do hope those reservations will get cancelled. Everyone knows this isn't how abunai room reservations are supposed to work and now a small group got an unfair advantage over others by exploiting and sharing a mistake. That's just wrong.

>>10708032
When Abunai will get cancelled again they will be stuck with their hotel room

Does anyone know what's up with Nishicon? Their website has been down all month and there hasn't been any sign of life from them on social media since May.

>>10711274
Weirdly enough, the website was up on saturday night when a friend and I were talking about it and wanted to look it up. It seems to be down again.

>>10682082
Any fellow dutchies planning to go/has been in Japan Expo Paris?

>>10682082
Is there a new updated list somewhere with cancelled and new events?

>>10712383
https://dutchgulls.nl/conventieagenda/
I've updated the site with a new convention calendar last month. Taking inspiration from the seasonal anime lists it's now separated by quarter with some more details shown. Fall/Q4 2022 will be added sometime after NYE along with any other changes. As usual, if anything is missing feel free to just post it or contact me.

>>10712412
Thank you anon

>>10711274
>>10711281
It wasn't just Nishicon but also CosplayClues. Both their sites seem to be back online now tho so that's something.

>>10712412
Gaat er iemand naar Heroes België of Nederland? Welke is het leukst?

>>10715356
*Anyone going to Heroes Brussels or Utrecht? Do you like one better than the other?

>>10715357
Both are alright for visiting with friends, shopping and showing off cosplays but that's about it. If that's what you're interested in just go to the one that's the closest to you.

Is it cheaper to use a shopping service or to buy from closet child directly? Considering a shopping service can mark a package down for less taxes

>>10719080
That depends on the amount you are ordering. Shipping within Japan can also be pricey for Closet Child. (As in have been charged 1,200yen domestic shipping before.) However, using a forwarding service like Tenso, quickly gets cheaper than when you use a shopping service. You just have ti do the math.

>>10705977
The same autistic responding to people bringing up this convention in-fighting is rather funny. You blame the guy talking about the dirt throwing, and then trying to turn it around, that he is the one dirt throwing. Classic head in the sand response though.

>>10721576
Go away!

>>10721576
Go play in traffic

>>10721770
Never ;)

>>10682082
how is this related to cgl cosplay?

>>10726105
Tuly is the mascot of the Dutch 'Huis ten Bosch' theme park near Sasebo, Nagasaki in Japan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huis_Ten_Bosch_(theme_park)..

Also https://dutchgulls.nl/surveys/wie-of-wat-is-tully/

I'm seeing a lot of promotion from Made in Asia, is it worth to go?

>>10726236
Definitely not.

>>10726262
Any specific reason why? I always enjoy DCC, it's not a con, per se, in my opinion. Moreso hanging with friends and eating food. If it's that, it's fine by me.

>>10726236
Their first Dutch edition last year was surprisingly positive. Lots of dealers and artists, there just wasn't much in terms of content "to do". The only real issue people had as far as I can recall was transportation as the venue is annoying to get to without a car. My take, if you like what Heroes offers with DCC you'll probably enjoy MIA too.

>>10726411
Don't they offer "pendelbussen" next edition ?

>>10726436
There's no shuttle buses as far as I can see on their website: https://www.made-in-asia.nl/info/location/
Ticket sales are live by the way.

>>10730534
>There's no shuttle buses as far as I can see on their website: https://www.made-in-asia.nl/info/location/
>Ticket sales are live by the way.
Gorinchem is on itself a pretty good venue as long as you don't have to rely on public transport. This is an issue that they have to solve for MIA.

>>10730534
That is really weird. I could've sworn I saw it on one of our instagram posts.

>>10731510
*their instagram posts, obviousy. If I worked at MIA I wouldn't need to ask an anonymous Cantonese basket weaving forum for help.

Heroes Dutch Comic Con will make extra tickets available next Tuesday at 12:00. So to anyone looking for tickets, I'd say just sit and wait instead of stressing yourself out on TicketSwap and social media groups.

Seems like conventions aren't the only thing having a hard time after 2 years of nothingness. Aniway, a Dutch anime, convention and cosplay magazine, had to postpone their latest volume due to money problems. Seems a bit weird though, unless many people cancelled their subscription they hardly should had been affected by the last 2 years. Or did they lose large sponsors?

>>10741037
I think a lot of their sales also depended on conventions, and without cons, no sales.
Maybe now is the right time to donate some money to aniway and demand them to write an article about highly critical european herring gulls.

>>10741256
>I think a lot of their sales also depended on conventions, and without cons, no sales.
They also sold their magazine through bookstores and other shops, everything was affected by the lockdowns of the last two years. A lot of more specialized magazines are in a rough place at the moment.

Nishicon is alive.

>>10743801
Not for long..... They have no chance competing with other conventions. They have nothing unique to offer.

>>10743834
Nishi is still a mess, but if they manage to fix their shit I think they still have a change to become the 3rd weeb weekend con besides abunai and animecon.
I liked it when they had a con in the winter. I hoped that they would try to become the winter con since that's usually a period with not that many cons except small ones. I understand that most cons are in summer because the weather is better and since it's vacation more people are able to go, but I wish that there were more cons in the winter period. Maybe place a con somewhere during the christmas season or spring break in february?

Without sounding too much like 'please spoonfeed me' can someone give me the rundown of AnimeCon in June? Friend and I are currently wondering if it's worth it or not compared to Dokomi. We are currently leaning towards AnimeCon as it is a 3 day event, but everything I see online is quite polarizing as to if it is good or not. Equal distances from both so it's not really a debate of 'which one is easier to get to', just wondering what to expect since it appears us going to AnimeCon for a 3 day event at this time.

>>10743875
It's in a new location and a smaller one that usual and the ongoing pandemic probably changed a lot of the usual program, so nobody really knows what to expect.
From my experience animecon feels (usually) like a very high quality event with lots of things to do, workshops and lectures to attend, international guests and concerts, AMV and cosplay competitions, a huge gameroom, and I hope the maid cafe will also be there again this year.
I always have a great time at animecon, except that one time in ahoy where there was no daylight and they went through my bags and confiscated my food even though I bought it at the event. Fuck ahoy.

>>10743878
Thanks, never been but was confused with a lot of comments I've seen online of AnimeCon being either the best or worst thing ever. I'll keep an watch on the thread but appreciate the advice, first time going to this con so hope it's nice.

>>10743834
Animecon and Abunaicon haven't changed their convention setup neither for years now, so I do not see the point in this comment to be honest.

>>10743878
It is going to be two events, the one in June in Rijswijk, just a bit more adapted to the new location which is a bit smaller than Ahoy, still the Broodfabriek is an excellent choice so I wonder why Acon did not look at this location when they where leaving the World Forum.

The other event will be Acon Classic in THA that we all love, I am looking forward to that one, it most likely will sell out because it is much smaller than Rijswijk.

>>10744128
They probably wanted a bigger location than world forum and went with ahoy. They could have also picked MECC in Maastricht but maybe they were worried that one was too far away and that they would lose congoers from the randstad?
Broodfabriek is a lot smaller but like you said, there are now two animecons and they're trying to split their audience across two events. We will just have to wait and see how that will turn out.

Anyone excited for facts gent (belgium)? Will bumbejinx be there?

>>10743801
Seems a bit like a poor choice of date to me? Right at the beginning/middle of the summer holiday?

What did you all think of DCC?

what the hell why did you kick me from the discord i was doing literally notjing

>>10746897
>i was doing literally notjing
That's exactly the problem.

>>10746866
It was fun, but I just went hungry after some time, because the fuckin food lines were longer than my memory and it gave me an undying hate for funko's. Nice to see Cas and Rutger there, but I wished there were more eurocomics. My thirst for character design books has been quenched, getting books on Wonderwoman, Catwoman and more. The autism was in the air and I'd go again next time for sure

>>10746897
>I didn't do anything
Exactly. You joined and haven't send even a single message, nor replied when reached out to. Then today, almost a week after joining and nothing but silence, you drop in on an active voice channel with your microphone muted. You've been called out several times during that voice call, each time without any response. You were even reminded your microphone was muted in case you hadn't noticed, but again no response. Not in voice, not in text.

The server rules are pretty clear about lurking not being allowed. And while we tend to be lenient with that rule unless there's drama taking place, this was just creepy behaviour that really made you stand out hence why the rule got enforced. Just imagine you're chilling with friends irl and some stranger keeps following you around, listening in on everything, yet ignores you when you call them out. Wouldn't you feel weirded out? Because in this situation, that stranger was you.

>>10746897
Don't worry, I was kicked out too for having a objective discussion that the discord server blew up over, for having a different opinion.
It's better not to be there and getting triggered, so that people pull you in a discussion where most of the people try to be smart-asses, and loosing the conversation, and starting to attack you personally, until some admin kicks and bans you for having a different opinion, while the rest of the people afterwards start to harass you...

>>10747148
lol weren't you sexually harassing people and impersonating con staff? cringe

>>10746866
>What did you all think of DCC?
At first it was weird being around so many people for the first time since the pandemic, but things quickly went back to feeling normal. I definitely noticed there being fewer dealers with artists now taking up their space with new items which was nice. The actual artist alley was placed a bit out of the way, but that also made is less crowded and easier to browse. Seriously, at times the dealer hall was so full you could barely move forward.

One of the two things which made me sad in the dealer room were the insane amount of lucky "unwanted junk and unlicensed prints and trinkets" bags. I've gotten so used to them being banned or heavily regulated at other events that I had forgotten how much of a problem they actually are. The other thing which made me sad were those stands that only sold well known Ali Express items at a massive markup. The stand with the LED masks and glasses first comes to mind, but the stands that really took the cake were the ones selling those golden bank notes with popular characters on them. €35 for a bill with (likely) stolen artwork and case that goes for less than €10 on Ali Express including shipping and taxes... Yikes!

Aside from that I really enjoyed watching the cosplay catwalk. It was very refreshing to see all those excited and somewhat anxious cosplayers walk up and have their 15 seconds of happiness. Liked it more than what I've seen from the actual compo oddly enough.

There wasn't much else to do, just a few games and Q&A's. I've never been a huge fan of these type of comic con style events and probably won't return to DCC for a few editions, but it was a nice starting point after such long drought. Also loved this diorama at the PlamoDX stand.

>>10747183
I think you are thinking of someone else.
Although, it sounds familiar that some person was doing that, and that person should gtfo, so I agree with you on that totally.
As for the harassing, I was harassed, until I doxed the person back spamming me outside the whole ordeal, and the person shut up afterwards. I guess it's fine to harass someone over a different opinion, it's retarded.

>>10747324
Are you power2all because you were the type that seemed dense enough not to understand what you did wrong.

>>10747445
>>because you were the type that seemed dense enough not to understand what you did wrong

So just because I had a different opinion and view, it was green lighted to have everybody on that discord go ballistic on me, attacking me on a personal level, as far as going to harass me even when I was off the discord?...
Right.... Dense... Just stop it already, this is just embarrassing

>>10747452
So are you him or not?

>>10747452
nah friend it's embarrassing how you brought it up again because we all forgot about you until today lmao

>>10747562
>> nah friend it's embarrassing how you brought it up again because we all forgot about you until today lmao

Tell that to the ones here poking the rabbits hole. Maybe reflect on that for ones ?
As for embarrassing part, you guys started harassing and doxing, not the other way around, but I guess you and others still think it's fine to dox and harass people when they have a different view and opinion.
Have a nice time trying to forgetting about this ;)

>>10747324
>>10747637
bruh did you just admit doxxing people?

>>10747645
If you read properly, you would have read that I got doxed, not the other way around. When I got harassed by someone spamming me with messages through email, facebook and even through my own website. I contacted the person through my own chat board that I knew who was harassing me, and that he/she would do good to quit it. That actually did the thing. I never actually "doxed" the person, if that makes sense ? The person just was dumb using her working internet to do the harassing.
Anyway, keep on poking the rabbit hole...

This entire discussion is completely lost on me. The confusing grammar doesn't help either.

Let's talk about something more positive! Volkskrant was at DCC and now people are salty at mainstream media again.
https://www.volkskrant.nl/columns-opinie/veilig-schuilen-waarom-volwassenen-zich-massaal-verkleden-als-cartoonheld~bfebd9e2/
Thoughts?

>>10747148
>>10747324
>>10747452
>>10747637
>>10747647
The Discord server is almost 5 years old, way past its peak, and there have only been around 20 bans (excluding alts, bots, approved ban appeals etc). The fast majority of these banned accounts were trolls from /int/ looking for cosplay pussy, as well as a few stalkers chasing their victims online. Looking at the ban list, only 1 user fits what, who I will now refer to as "Angry Anon" for the sake of anonimity, has described. It appears I'm not the only one who has connected the dots, but keep in mind name-dropping here is against 4chan rules.

For full transparency, everything said back then is still up on the Discord server for anyone to read. We don't delete messages unless deemed necessary. As far as I can remember and have briefly read up on, there was an incident back in September 2019 when Angry Anon joined the server and shortly after started to harras a few female server members. It started with hot takes such as "all woman lie about sexual harrassment" which eventually spiraled out of control with mud throwing from 2 sides, despite efforts from others to keep things civil and on-topic. Matters quickly escalated further with Angry Anon threatening to use old connections get everyone con banned if they wouldn't play nice. When called out on this Angry Anon proceeded to make threats of doxing and us being the target of "600gbit" DDOS attacks. It was around this point where the banhammer got dropped, and rightfully so. The main server rule comes down to "just don't be a dick", and by then it had been violated countless times with the threats being the final straw.

After the ban 1 server member, who has been mostly inactive since later that year, did harrass Angry Anon elsewhere. When we as mods found out we repeatedly told that member to stop and leave it all behind, which they eventually did. And that's that. I hope this clears a few things out regarding the ban and helps you move on with your life.

>>10747763
> https://www.volkskrant.nl/columns-opinie/veilig-schuilen-waarom-volwassenen-zich-massaal-verkleden-als-cartoonheld~bfebd9e2/
I'm somewhat mixed on the writing, but the outcry I've seen on social media feels unjustified. This is an opinion piece on the Comic Con experience written from the POV of an outsider. As such it's not intended to be a positive pat on the back article the greater community only wants to see.from the press.

Reading between the lines the article manages to capture the essence of a comic con just fine. You have fans getting together, enthusiastically celebrating their oddball hobbies, some dedicated enough to wear costumes and enthusiastically presenting themselves. For outsiders such as the author and "mom's who tagged along" this definitely seems weird, but it also explains how for insiders it's a form of positive escapism where they feel safe and accepted in an open community. Some of the quirks with cosplay, photography and use of business cards was added, again something outsiders would consider weird. I also truly respect how the author also didn't pretend it's all roses and unicorns after all the super positive takes and quotes and included the darker side of things such as sexual harrassment.

To me there were only 2 questionable parts in the article. The first was the unnecessary intro on Ukrainian refugees who could be afraid of costumed nerds and usual weapon prop request from the police. The second was how the only POC in the article was described as being black and working at KFC, where everyone else was just another name. But aside from that, it's all fine by me.

>>10747764
That explanation is so much taken out of it's context, it's funny how you keep out the whole discord server harassing Angry Anon, and you let it all slide off as "normal behavior"?
Yah, it's going to be a tough action to ban the whole discord server for violating the "don't harass people" rule...

As for the DDoS, that wasn't even said, you made that up. No threat with DDoS was made, it was a explanation how the Angry Dude got a DDoS of 600gbit on his modem connection, don't try to reverse the whole explanation, that's just sad.

You are allowing your discord group to harass and bully a guy on discord for having a other opinion, which you also seem to put completely out of it's context....

Yah, your discord server is dirty, all I can say.

>>10747764
can I join if I don't speak dutch

>>10747793
Like I've said, everything is still up on the Discord for anyone to read if they want to evaluate the situation themselves. The original DDOS threat, and I quote was "heb je wel eens 600gbit op je bek gehad?" or "Have you ever been hit by 600gbit?" for the English speakers. Pretty clear language, especially under the circumstances. There is nothing else for you gain here. The choice to ban you after going full dick mode and mentioned threats is final and will NOT be reverted as you clearly haven't changed at all during the past 3 years. Have a wonderful day!

>>10747794
The main language of the server is Dutch, but we do occasionally get Non-Dutchies looking for information on specific conventions. They are welcome to join of course, but do know things might be hard to follow once people switch back to Dutch. We use separate joinable ranks and channels for each convention, so if that's your primary goal you could join them and ignore everything else.

>>10747803
>> Like I've said, everything is still up on the Discord for anyone to read if they want to evaluate the situation themselves.

Sure, no problem, I've got also the logs here, and I definitely didn't say any of what you claim, so... ;)

>> The original DDOS threat, and I quote was "heb je wel eens 600gbit op je bek gehad?" or "Have you ever been hit by 600gbit?" for the English speakers. Pretty clear language, especially under the circumstances.

Again, taking out of context, as I said after that pretty much that I received that stuff on my modem. Always fun when you copy/paste single lines... eh...

>The choice to ban you after going full dick mode and mentioned threats is final and will NOT be reverted as you clearly haven't changed at all during the past 3 years.

Yes, because the rest was oh so nice and didn't spam and flooded the whole channel, making personal insults and swearing towards me personally was all okay, and following the rules, right ? Hypocrite... Have a nice day too I guess.

I've got the logs right here, you're taking everything out of it's context as usual. Have fun on your dirty discord with toxic people...