/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

went to check AP san frans site, looks like it got a good old DDOSing.

>>6707902
dang, now that I see the jsk in that lavender gradient... I want it... oh well, maybe second hand.

It's really nice, but there's just something a bit off about it for me? Don't know. Think I'll head in and check it out first hand if I can before I make a final decision. The art is really nice, though.

I got a hold of a ss too late :( I bet that it is going to sell for higher prices than Sugary Carnival, second hand.

>>6707913
looks like the bodyline carousel print to me...

I've got a slot for the skirt in sax, though I wanted the JSK in pink, so I'm hoping I'll get it.

>>6707912
too bad we can't kmow for sure...i don't have money to waste atm...

>>6707920
I've got the JSK from that series, and just from the pictures alone AP's is a lot nicer art and style-wise. That, and it won't be crazy thin/will fit well/won't eat 2 decent pettis.

>>6707933
Well yes... but when I first saw the scans I thought it was the Bodyline print... had to do a doubletake. The framing around the horses and the lines up the skirt, just looked so much like the Bodyline one to me that I couldn't get too excited for it.

>>6707921
do you mean ivory or lavender? there is no pink colorway.

It looks more like the JetJ carousel print or Sugary Carnival than Bodyline's. Daydream looks like a more grown up version of SC. I like that they are rehashing SC with a twist instead of just re-releasing it.

>>6707949

Sorry, yeah, I meant the ivory. I was googling something with pink in it a second ago and had a derp moment.

Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but is the AP English website and AP San Fran going to be stocking this series on the Saturday too?
I always get a little confused.

>>6707968

I heard it's not even going to reach the websites, it's in-store only.

>>6707972
Oh I see.
Really sucks because I'm attending an event that Saturday. Now I feel really paranoid about having to constantly refresh those websites. It would be nice if they didn't necessarily stock that day, but then it's anyone's guess as to when they would.

>>6707978

I think if you didn't get a slot with an SS to grab it from one of the Japanese stores, you're shit out of luck.

>>6707972
I call bullshit. It's probably going to make it to the Japanese website but whether or not AP Intl or USA is going to get it is up in the air. Those two sites are unreliable when it comes to popular series.

>>6707985

IDK, like I said I'm only passing on what I heard.

>>6707972
Where did you hear that from?

>>6707908
Er....?

>>6707981
Doesn't mean you can't grab one from the online sites if you're quick enough. If you wait a day after they're stocked then yeah you'll probably be left with the undesirables or nothing.

I'm going to try. I like all the colorways, but I only like non-halter JSK. I really like the sax colorway, but I'm guessing that and lavender will be the first to go. I have an alarm set on my phone to remind me. I'll be at a convention this weekend so I'm praying the internet is actually reliable.

I reserved a spot with an ss but it's not guaranteed. It looks like AP is going to make this a restricted release of only max 2 per customer as they did with chocolate rosette? We won't know for sure until the day before. I'm hoping it'll reach the AP intl site on Saturday. AP SF may be getting it too, but they are usually a week late. Last resort is buying it from a scalper on Mbok, the prices would be ridic though

>>6708030
Unless it's like Gloria and it's out of stock within 2 mins in all styles and colorways?

>>6708057
>if you're quick enough
;)
It's just dress girls. Remember that.

>>6708062
but it's so fun to get caught up in the hype.

;)

>>6708067
True. Honestly I think the only reason some people want particular prints so much is because of the hype and want others to be jealous of their potential purchase.

>>6708056
>only max 2 per custome
I hope so, will be funny to see Yunni Sweet Like Candy fuck up all the orders again

>>6708069
good god I hope no one who is using Yunni will expect to get it. She says she's going to multiple stores/using friends to shop and opening up all these slots for reserves that I highly doubt she can get! I can only hope my SS can get it but I understand if she can't

>>6708078
If AP is enforcing a limit of 2 per customer, I hope she gets banned for doing that.

I think the sax and lavender colorways are wonderful. Not a fan of that black though, it's rather jarring.

Okay. I will say it.
I hope Oo Jia gets her hands on this to copy it. Barring multiple re-releases this will be nearly impossible to get a hold of. I just wish AP was longer. I look awful in short skirts. I really hope AP knows how popular this will be and ran 3 times the usual amount of dresses

Yes- I know- I am going to hell.

Does AP international update at midnight PST? My F5 button is going to have to suffer...

>>6708225
You're not going to hell anon. I guarantee you're just saying what a good majority of people out there are thinking.

>>6708225
And this is why a bunch of brand stores have been closing down. Just saiyan...

>>6708276
Oh look it's BPN chan lol.
Still trying to push that replicas close down lolita brands and not the fact that they make bad business choices, eh?

>>6708276
Really? Twinkle carnival has been copied and is long sold out from AP and selling for well over retail on auctions. If AP were to rerelease it they would sell out immediately again.

Knock offs have very little impact on the brands' sales. They have a slight impact on second hand sales, but again- not much.

>>6708283
Bpn, Etc, h.naoto.. It'll continue.
> fuck you, Ita replica supporter.

>>6708302
You really believe that? :/

>>6708312
Exactly which prints that were ever replicated by Oo Jia and DOL did not sell out in brand stores? I'm genuinely curious about how replicas affect the sale of sellout, highly desirable prints that people vie to have the originals of.

>>6708302
This is just not true. Keep supporting replicas and see where it gets you. Lolitas need to start supporting the real thing. Even get 2ndhand if you will cause brands will start closing down and filing for bankruptcy. It's not like they are huge corp. They are Indie designers and people like oo jia are just ripping them off

Captcha: elyciv cheap

>>6708314
Stop. Just stop. No one gives enough of a shit to replicate BPN, they barely even have any prints

No one cares about that brand.

>>6708326
I think that one's a troll, but this (>>6708324) anon sounds really committed to this ridiculous logic.

>>6708324
People are going to keep supporting replicas though. That's not going to change. It's cheap, fast and noncommittal. Brands are just going to have to adapt or they will shut down

>>6708321
That's stupid. They started replicas while the some of the prints were brand new. Of course it hurt sales. but no, keep supporting that trash lol.

>>6708340
I always thought that if brands really wanted to make money, they'd take a look at their most popular prints and re-release them every now and then.
They sold out back then and they're very likely to sell out again.

Then again, I ain't a businessman.

>>6708349
>of course it hurts sales
Yeah, that's why those prints are all sold out (and re-releases sold out at that) and not sitting in the stores collecting dust.
Yeah. Totally. Not a full of shit statement there anon. No sir.

Now can you stop fishing for a rise out of people with this obvious trollbait?

>>6708314
Wait... Emily Temple Cute???

>>6708321
Little bears cafe, milky berry, wonder cookie...

>>6708361
But none of those prints can be found in any AP stores because they're sold out....?

>>6708351
No, btssb has been doing that lately to stay afloat but it ain't working lol

Captcha: salvation tslanic

>>6708351
Wonder Party was very popular at it's release, as was Toy Parade, but both of those didn't sell out at re-release

>>6708362
Yes. Emily Temple Cute closed their sendai store. These are dark times for us Lolitas

>>6708365
So because something didn't immediately sell out, it means they were never sold? You have poor logic. All of those dresses have been bought now. So how is it logical to say the brand lost money when they actually did sell the dresses?

>>6708351
The thing is, if they did that, while they would gain some money on re-releases, they would lose some of the hype on the fact that desired prints are limited. If AP always re-released, some customers might take a wait and see approach to something like Daydream Carnival, "oh it's going to be too hard to get now, I'll just wait for the rerelease." They want to keep that exclusivity and demand going.

>>6708371
Wonder Party is still in stores. AP has a lot of stock that isn't selling. Re-releasing popular prints hasn't generated much hype

>>6708366
LOL... B-but replicas.didn't hurt it right? Dude, replicas take away from their most popular sales where brands make their money off of a genius, original design. Haven't you seen the uglier prints or plain designs? Nobody buys those. They make bank with the top prints.

Of course replicas hurt them. Why else would they make a disclaimer on their website??? God itas are cheap AND stupid

>>6708370
They are my favorite brand and I'm too fat to wear any of it. I've been desperately but slowly losing weight... I hope they are still around when I can finally fit :(

>>6708375
>Re-releasing popular prints hasn't generated much hype
Uh
>what is chess chocolate
>what is chocolate rosette
>what is twinkle mermaid
>what is sugary carnival

What are you even going on about?

>>6708383
You can alter. Seriously, if you like the brand and support the designs you should show it. Even if you buy second hand, it goes to a better place. Plus brands do have fully shirred things. Even moitie has become more accommodating.

>>6708380
>God itas are cheap AND stupid
IKR? Fucking replica apologists

>>6708380
>Haven't you seen the uglier prints or plain designs? Nobody buys those.

So the customers are supposed to be responsible when a brand makes an ugly, undesirable print that nobody buys instead of adapting and trying to sell more coveted designs? Interesting logic.

>>mfw I'm actually responding to this troll
Oh well, it's been awhile since we had a good shitposter. I suspect you'll be releasing your second wave of stupid secrets on BtB again too.

>>6708388
I just think that if they are real Lolitas, they would stop this bullshit and support brands. No more excuses. It has been hurting the companies in Japan and we need to stop buying from oo jia. Lol soon they'll be nothing to copy of off

>>6708383
Try going after their jsks and fully shirred items.
Oh and take this with you:
http://gorgeouspluslolita.tumblr.com/tagged/plus-size-brand-photoset

>>6708396
Thanks anon!

>>6708378
Okay, yeah; I get that...but what I still don't understand is:
"if they're not re-releasing the print, they're not making any type of money off it."

The money would be going to people who already own the print and are selling it as second hand. How does that work?

And I don't mean re-release it like every two weeks or something like that, I kinda meant years apart in time span.

>>6708384
Twinkle Mermaid was not rerelased and it's now quite cheap secondhand.The only one of those that sold out quickly on rerelease was Chocolate Rosette.

>>6708403
It was based off of their original Aqua Princess release since so many people liked that print.
>the more you know
And I'm sorry but you're really retarded if you don't think Chess Chocolate or Sugary Carnival sold out.

>>6708399
If you're buying a secondhand item from another lolita, it's very likely that they are going to spend the money on buying more lolita stuff.
I see the secondhand market as indirectly supporting

>>6708380

>genius original design
>genius
>original

Dying.
I know you must be trolling but goddamn, kudos.

>>6708404
>secondhand sellers are entitled to scalping their dresses for more money so they can buy more brand for themselves
Uh, no. That's bullshit and I'm tired of this attitude if you're being serious.

>>6708405
What? Twinkle Mermaid came before Aqua Princess, and while they both have mermaids on them, they're not the same print.
They didn't sell quickly though, which was my point.

>>6708399
Look at btssb desperately trying to r-release to generate hype. Its a total fail. Basically it comes down to this Lolita is dying because new Lolitas now have easy access to fakes and taobao. None of it is going to actual brands. Ap, baby, hnaoto, bpn have been trying to reach to their western audience who are decreasing in number. Japan Lolitas take their shit for granted and now have other properties such as cult party, Mori, otome. Lolita is just dying out. Hopefully brands can stay afloat but its going to be hard. Moitie almost went out of biz a year or 2 ago as well. Its just not looking good for Lolita

>>6708410
Not all secondhand sellers are scalpers, I have no idea where you got that from my comment.

>>6708404
If I don't want to buy an overpriced dress from some twink in frills it doesn't mean I'm "indirectly" not supporting my favorite brand. I give my money directly to brand if I want to support them. There's no guarantee those sellers will spend their money they got from selling on brand anyway.

What the fuck am I reading here?
Or is this on the same tier as that unfunny Francis troll that we had awhile back? Only this time it's ~*~burrando chan~*~

>>6708414
>They didn't sell quickly though
Who cares? Point being is that they sold out. You can't say a brand didn't make money if they actually sold their products. That's ridiculous.

>>6708407
What I said wrong? Genius enough for done skank in China to be bootlegging.

>>6708436
What are you talking about?
Seriously, are you spergin?

>>6708422
Then buy Taobao or something, damn.

>>6708426
Some of them did, but not like the original releases did. There's risk in doing a rerelease, because it's usually never as popular as the first. And like it has already been mentioned, it can have an effect on new releases; people think "oh they'll just rerelease this print, so I won't buy it now"

>>6708426
No, you are forgetting the point where these copied prints are the main revenue for brands. Seriously though, I always thought it was a bad choice for people to buy fakes but now I judge them even more just based on how stupid they are. You lost all my respect whatever little I had for you

>>6708440
>You lost all my respect whatever little I had for you

Brb killing myself because I'm so upset I don't have your approval burrando chan.

>>6708443
>Some of them did, but not like the original releases did
How do you sell out differently from something else sold out? If something has sold out, it is GONE. There is no more money they could have made from it. It doesn't matter that the scalpers on mbok aren't going to get a threefold price increase, AP has made the exact same money.

>>6708416
Baby is re-releasing prints that aren't popular any more and are in a style that is considered passe (at least in the west)
Baby simply doesn't have a lot of highly coveted prints.
AATP has more.
You are telling me that if they re-released Midsummer Night it wouldn't sell out in a heartbeat?

>>6708450
>If something has sold out, it is GONE. There is no more money they could have made from it.

This.
I don't know what these people are trying to argue here.

>>6708443
Eh I think it's a lost cause. I've said all I could. But we know fact is that it hurts brands. And this may or may not take them out completely.

I guess well just have to cross our fingers and hope our fave brands don't go under. Lol I was going to post a closet cleaning and get rid of some older, rarer items but now I want to hold onto them...

>>6708456
>But we know fact is that it hurts brands.

No you don't.
You know it hurts scaplers.
You know it hurts greedy ass bitches that wanna sell their used ass dresses "as new" for x10 the original price. But it doesn't hurt brands. Period.
So please leave. Nobody buys your points here so I guess your only avenue left is to take your frustration to BtB if you want an audience that will only temporarily entertain your bs.

>>6708456

>http://www.angelicpretty.com/en/
"Dear Angelic Pretty Valued Customers,
Angelic Pretty is aware of that there is a lot of concerns regarding counterfeits / replicas.
We officially do not condone these types of illegal behaviors.
We will actively pursue those who continue these illegal activities.
We appreciate all of the customers who support Angelic Pretty.

Thank you for your understanding,
Angelic Pretty"

>>6708460
>But it doesn't hurt brands. Period.
Oh my god you are fucking retarded I can't even

>>6708460
Poor girl, I hope you will receive an education some day...

Captcha: rotted iiivid

>>6708460
I'm stepping in on this.

Yes it does hurt brand because there are other dresses replicated that aren't omgpopularprints that will still be listed on, say, Innocent World's website as in stock (and sometimes eventually marked down).

You know what, I'm going to send the names and emails of all the lolitas I know who buy AP replicas straight to AP and get them blacklisted.

>>6708464
It's illegal because it's technically stealing their artwork and hurting their customers who would be tricked. IF you want to make an argument against replication of prints then you should argue for those two points. Not "muh precious burrando is losing monies" because it's bullshit and not true.
If AP, BtssB, or any of those stores were suffering then they would close down their overseas locations and shut down many of their physical shops to conserve money.

>>6708474
>Yes it does hurt brand because there are other dresses replicated that aren't omgpopularprints that will still be listed on

Name them or I call bullshit.

>>6708469
Lol, it hurts to know that these girls consider themselves Lolitas. And that people could associate them with us. Iamsosad.gif

>>6708478
Oh I remember this troll.

>>6708478
Lol, they won't care if they get blacklisted though. That would only bother a real Lolita

>>6708473
OMG rofl. Yes, I have been thinking this for some time now too

>>6708489
>>6708486
>>6708483
>>6708469
>>6708473
>>6708483
You know your mannerisms are nearly identical every time you type, so your samefagging is just brutally embarrassing.

OK let me just clarify what a true Lolita would have, I've been in since 2003 here's my 2 cents:

> understands the silhouette
> owns some brand items
> owns second hand
> self made items
> bodyline, f+f, anna house
> original Taobao designs
> NO oo jia or dol fake prints

>>6708494
Shhh. Don't you keep burando chan from shining!

>>6708495
>true Lolita
>mon visage quand this is now a proper noun coined by an aspie

>>6708494
Whatever you think, hun. I feel pretty bad for you...

> uneducated
> Ita
> poorfag
> replica supporter

Hopefully you're not ugly or fat, that would just be so unfortunate. Anyway good luck!

>>6708503
>mfw never bought anything other than burando in my life
Just because you're samefagging this hard doesn't mean everyone else is.

If you want to play your cards closer to the chest, dear, people don't put a space between carrot and their greentext, nor do they capitalize Lolita. The awkward ESL phrasing will be harder to change, though, so you'll still probably struggle to hide your obvious samefagging. Anyway good luck!

>>6708431

You see the skirt in OP?
It looks Bodyline-ish. It looks like any other sweet style dress ever. Lolita in general.

The dress? Like every other dress.
Same old tights.
Same old colourways.
Same old theme.

There's nothing bad but certainly nothing "genius" or "original" about any sort of fashion that makes replication omg so evil.

There are tons of VW replicas on Taobao. Liz Lisa and stuff too. No one is whining about them for some reason.

>>6708495
Sounds reasonable, I could agree with that

>>6708514
And who's out there defending poor suffering Rolex, Gucci, Louis Vuitton and DISNEY?

When I see those Mickey Mouse ripoffs I cry evry tiem

>>6708503
I'm a truer Lolita than you silly burrando chan:

I'm obese and sometimes I like to buy really rare prints with my government assistance money, like the nordic Lotta jsks, and force them over my massive sweaty rolls of fat.
I listen closely at the seams pop and I hear the sounds of 1000 lolita's heads exploding and bursting into treats.
Afterwards I help myself to a cheddar cheese block that I bought at Wal-Mart for tree fiddy and proceed to wipe the grease on the front of the dress.
Later on I call my girl Oo Jia and ask her if she's made her blood sacrifice to our replica-chan goddess which requires the blood of 666 authentic Milky Fawns.
While my cheese is converted into lard in my belly I like to coordinate my ripped Lotta jsk with bodyline bags and headbows and go shopping at my local mall because I'm so stylish like that (no wig of course).


Then...at the very end of my day anon...do you know what I do? I boil the dress and eat it. I am one with the Lolita.
I am the Lolita.

Y'all need to stop shitposting up the DDC thread. Go be stupid someplace else.

Is chibi_tenshi taking reserves for this one or is she not because she's out of Japan? Ouch, bad timing.

>>6708519
fukken saved

>>6708519
No wig? Rorita-chan you wasureta'd your neon orange GLW twin tail wig!!!

>>6708495
Yay true lolita!

>>6708519
Eww wut lol

I'm the truest lolita-chan because I only buy doll delight's stuff.

>>6708519
Wow, I really don't understand how this is relevant but I must admit that I'm intrigued.

Please, tell me more.

>>6708067
No. I usually like less popular dresses and am not used to the feeling that I may have to cry while watching people scalp them for prices beyond my means. I'm not having fun. Back off my dress okay.

>>6708062
~Ah yeah. I needed this reminder. Thanks :)

I was just upset over stores closing and I don't support illegal replicas. Lolita brands are not Gucci or LV, they simply are not that big. They are Indie designers who have been passionate about this fashion since the 80s.

In any case it does not excuse name calling.. I am apologize if I hurt anyone's feelings. Sad, but true that English is my second language. Lolitas need to stick together whether they support brand or not as long as they don't support replicas.

I reserved one with yunni a week ago but now it looks like it will be a 2 per customer type deal. idk now if i'm better trying to nab one at home or what. I just want the lavender tulle jsk so bad but i don't want scalper prices and I saved up the full amount over several weeks to afford the damn set T_T what do anons?

>>6708629
Yunni is unreliable as fuck, try the Intl site or SF.
If you gave her money, good luck on getting it back, she probably already spent it.

>>6708494
Btw you posted #483 twice. Most of them are replies to others so how is that samefagging? And a few are not my response.

Can you explain why there should not be a space after carrot? Samefag is mulitple responses and that's not allowed?

ITT: Believing and responding to trolls.

>>6708610
>indie brands
I don't think you know what that means. Not poo-pooing your argument, it just really detracts from it.


To keep things on track, I would buy the shit out of this dress, but I am too late, plus I left my job today, so shit ain't happenin'.

>>6708634
Yunni gives refunds right? She's not a scammer but rather a shit ss from what I recall. Anon, try another ss or give it a shot on the intl site

>>6708637
It's usually a thing that happens when posting on mobiles, right?

Double post sageru

>>6708641
Sorry to hear you left your job, anon. What happened if you don't mind talking about it?

>>6708642
Eventually, after ignoring your messages for weeks and sending links to auctions instead

>>6708641
>indie designers (not indie brands)
it's ok maybe you are just reading too fast lol...

>>6708634
well have we heard anything about the international release on the english site? is it same day? I know they're slow to get things but they got candy funfair same day didn't they?

>>6708646
I wanted to leave, it's not a bad thing. Just not a good thing to be rushing after brand when I haven't got my name on the dotted line for my new job. All good. I'm actually tripping balls with joy.

>>6708647
Nah, I just misquoted you. Still not indie.

>>6708642
Yunni is a scammer. She takes money for transport and buys the shit online instead

Are there any available SSes for this since chibi tenshi is out of the picture? I feel bad for all the girls who reserved with her months ago and now they lost their spots.

>>6708669
given the apparent '2 per person' nature of this dress it would seem not' lthough it hasn't been confirmed as restricted yet has it? I know the ap english translation (from google) of the release page says something about restrictions but it goes all engrish and i can't tell what.

>>6708670
The site says that information (probably about restrictions) will be put up on Friday.

>>6708671
ah, thanks anon.

>>6708416
Never mind the fact that the American dollar is still shit compared to the Japanese yen and thus makes new dresses all that more expensive.

Ten years ago when I got into lolita I could get roughly 180 yen per dollar. Now you'relucky to get around 95 yen per dollar (which honestly is me rounding up.)

There's more into play than just replicas. Sure replicas are available and people purchase them. But the quality is crap compared to real brand and will not satisfy, construction and feel wise, someone who already owns brand and knows a good quality dress.

Don't even know what's going on in this thread here, but I really hope brands releasing printed tights becomes a regular thing. I want the hell out of OP's tights.

>>6708715
Innocent World and AP have both been doing printed tights lately!

>>6708669

Nobody's lost their spots, she says she's having somebody do the shopping in her place if she's out of Japan when the print drops.

>>6708715
oh man do i agree! I bought the whip showcase tights asap and they got here 2 days ago and they're freaking amazing! I dislike the daydream carnival tights (too busy imo) but apparently the next strawberry print is confirmed for tights as well so here's hoping the fad stays! ;D

I had no idea this dress was set to be so popular. Now I'll try to get it, if only to resell it and make some money.

>>6708786
1. how can you not know? people have been making reserves for this print since it showed up in kera and tumblr's been raving it up 'where is daydream carnival? why isn't it released yet? omigawd whip showcase is out before daydream carnival!?'
2. goodluck getting it, although it'll be popular the most likely one to go up in price is the lavender tulle which most shopping services have already booked up.

>>6708629
Meh maybe everyone will keep away from her and you will be lucky! :/...maybe!

awwwww yeah! just got in on a reserve!!! 8)

>>6708822
where from? I wouldn't mind getting one since everyone thinks it's going to be scalped high after initial release and i like what i think will be the least popular colourway - ivory

>>6708826
inb4 it remains at a steady pace and then due to the oversaturation of people selling it after their 1 wear so they can say they had that 'super popuar print' it deflates to $200 by may.

>>6708715
this!! I love printed tights

>>6708830
>>6708715
I just hope they are not small tights with no give that are made for people who are 5 feet tall and shorter.

>>6708324
I would say it's less to do with replicas and more to do with the Japanese economy tanking. The bigger brands are doing well enough because of their popularity, but it's always good to support brand. Those brands are less popular, and it's always the less popular businesses to go under in a bad economy. Stores for expensive frivolous clothing close because when people fall on harder times, they spend their money on needs instead of frilly dresses. It's not because fatty-chan, 5'9"-chan, and minimumwage-chan bought a replica.

>>6708826
miu miu

>>6708840
lol enjoy paying her 40% commission fee

or should I say hi m_miu

>>6708715
I hope not, I couldn't face spending so much on tights only to end up laddering them or something

Kimura

>>6709009
I'm confused... which version is this? I only see the one JSK with the sheer hip flaps and it doesn't come in that color?

>>6708326
What? Have you not ever looked at fanplusfriend? Their shit is all ripoffs of BPN and other similar brands. How many people do you know that own f+f crap but no BPN? (I'm not the same anon or anything, I just think it's funny that you think only prints get replicated.)

>>6708366
Have you ever worked in retail? A shit ton of retail businesses get RID of old stock, for many reasons. Some do because they restock seasonally (shit like Hot Topic, they have to break/ruin and throw away last season) and some to appear "sold out" and more popular. If you think for a minute that Japanese brands haven't studied tactics to increase their "hype" like that you're sad and sheltered. No clothing company ever has "completely sold out" of all of their clothing, regardless of what you are led to believe.

>>6709032
Uhh yeah it does. That JSK comes in every colourway, not just the black one showed in the example picture.

>>6708387
>>6708396
ETC-loving fatty chan here. I'm actually large enough that even the larger shirring items won't quite work. (In some cases they would "fit" but still not look good and I don't want to be THAT girl.) I am right on the borderline of a few recent prints - it's good to see the brands making larger stuff but heartbreaking that I still don't quite fit.

In the meantime I buy a lot of brand accessories to support the brands I love and wear handmade dresses that hopefully fit me properly. I refuse to buy replicas as I feel it's art theft, and I think it not only hurts the brands but if my fellow fatties weren't always running off to Oo Jia I'd like to think that we might have more viable plus size indie brand options by now.

>>6708832
I agree, they're so cute as an idea but I think I need to see a few regular Murrikan girls get them up to their waists before I'll take the plunge

>>6709047
It's always refreshing to see a fellow fatty who doesn't run straight to replica's like they're God's gift to the morbidly obese.

And I agree with actually supporting brands and directly giving them money for making larger sized pieces. I hate when I see plus sized girls praising brands for making bigger pieces then going on to say
>lol, now only to find a way to afford it
then never actually buying the pieces.

>>6709034
No. They're naoto, boz, AATP knockoffs. Stop trying to make this a replica thing, because it's not.

>>6709047
"Viable" as opposed to, say... this?

>>6709040
Oh ok wow thanks you so much for info!

>>6709034
Prints are replicas. Non-prints are knockoffs. Do we seriously have to go through explaining the difference again?

Sorry to burst your bubble but there's a reason BPN goes for pennies compared to other brands even on Japanese secondhand shops. It's because it's mostly fugly, (comparitively) poorly made crap. It has nothing to do with replication.

When is this actually being released?

>>6709084
What is this sad thing?

>>6708731
Same here. It was literally the only thing I wanted from that release.

>>6708832
>>6708972
This is also my concern too, but I'm hoping that they might take that into account since they have a decent customer base over here. My pair just shipped out, so if there's a general lolita thread floating around by the time they get here I'll post the good/bad news about them.

>>6708666
Does she not get that there will probably be a limit? She's taking lots of orders and lots of money from girls who will end up with nothing but auction links.

>>6707902
I've never bought lolita before, but the skirt is so beautiful that I would be really interested in this. I'm in Japan for the next few months, around Kansai mostly but heading to Tokyo later. How would I go about buying this? If I go in person will it be too crazy for a newbie?

I'm usually not on board with AP
but i am digging the fuck out of that black JSK

>>6710154
Can you understand written and spoken Japanese?

>>6708966
twas a last resort. I saved enough to afford it! :'(

>>6710154
lucky!! I think you'd have a shit getting it if you went in store yourself but you'd have to be there very early! I don't know how bad the japanese lolitas are with racisms ( I've heard they have issues with selling outside japan to make sure it stays...in japan) so you might get some stank eyes from them since you'll be a foreigner buying their precious brand new just released burando from right under their noses.

>>6710212
Yup, not completely fluent but more than enough to talk to shop people normally.

>>6710212
What has that got to do with anything? I shopped at ap last year. Find the item you want, point at it/grab it and give money after waiting in line.

>>6710230
Ah really? But surely they couldn't straight up refuse to sell me something? Even if they're really bitter about it, ha.

>>6710234
Because it isn't normal shopping. You have to know the rules they are going to supposedly be posting tomorrow about this release, concerning restrictions. There's a set time to assemble, lots are drawn, and you buy that way. It might not even be 2 main pieces per person this time. I heard it may be one piece per style, so even stricter. But you have to know how to read Japanese to be able to read all that crap and determine how things are going to be run. You have to understand spoken Japanese to follow the shop staff's instructions.

>>6708832
>>6708972
>>6709592

I'm not sure if it helps but I just tried on my whip showcase ones and they are definitely tight tights, could use a wash for sure to try and loosen them - or some prolonged wear. the fabric goes thin at the knees and less opaque but the print 'snaps' back into shape after stretching around the leg so it isn't warped. I'm 5"1 and there's some wrinklng at the knee joins so it can stretch to fit a taller person. I would advise against maybe anyone over 5"5-6 though as the material is...well don't use your nails pulling them up much because they feel fragile enough to start pulling with little effort.

also they make my legs look fat T_T

>>6710247
nah. Money is money to shop owners

>>6710257
Obviously you know nothing about AP print sales. lol.

>>6710257
You underestimate the Japanese boner for rules and regulations.

>>6710247
Damn that's some strictness. I'd still like to give it a try though, my Japanese would probably be fine for that.

I'm guessing there's not exactly time/opportunity to try stuff on though, so I would need to know what size I'm after before going in right? Does AP have a size chart that would be consistent with the release?

>>6710281
give us your measurements, we'll tell you if you're SOL or not.

Bust, Underbust, waist

>>6710281
ap = 1 size only.

You have to check the released measurments beforehand to say if it'll fit. I think all the jsks/op are 88cm-102cm bust this time around. Then again I've got an 83cm bust and fit tiara rose's 88cm fully shirred jsk just fine as well so....

>>6710287
>>6710289
Holy shit! I didn't know that. Unfortunately I don't have a tape measure on me, I'll pick one up and check this evening. I'm only interested in the skirt, not the OP or JSK. I'm skinny by western standards but I know I'm not Japanese level of petite, so I will definitely double check.

>>6707902
Hey what's the order process for the ap international site? I mean... like

>login
>put item in cart
>press checkout I assume?
>???
>wat? dress at door

Can someone let me know how many steps there are and if I need to fill out anything in advance on my profile or something? Like shipping so it auto populates in the fields?

>>6710302
skirts are usually... 26-28inches i'd say

>>6710302

If your waist is over 74cm, give up.

i cant wait to see shit explode! facebook status and tumblr updates of people crying or posting with glee...

>>6710281
DDC measurements

Op
Length 89+3cm lace
Bust 91-104
Waist 70-82

Tulle
Length 89+3cm lace
Bust 88-112
Waist 69-93

JSK
Length
Length 86+3cm lace
Bust 88-100
Waist 68-78

The measurements for the skirt and salopette weren't posted but the skirt is probably 62-72 or 63-73, whatever their standard is.

>>6710824
What did Cadney cry about last? I know she got Dream Fantasy

>>6710625
Looking forward to Cadney crying about it again

>>6710826
Gloria

>>6710902
ooooh

bitch is too damn tall for gloria anyway

M_miu for dream carnival
http://angelicpoodle.livejournal.com/1936559.html

>>6711070
those fees seem outrageous? Or is it just me? Like 1/3 the price?? 30%???

I wonder if I should maybe secure a slot with two SS to be safe... But what if both manage to get my item?

>>6711080
It might be limited to 2 main pieces per person, you might as well try.

>>6707902
Anyone remember the past couple of release times for international site in your time zone?

>>6711070
lmfao those fees are ridiculous

>>6710807
YES. Tulle version will fit my fat ass.

>>6710824
She already made a post complaining about how much it sucks to buy from AP because they don't release any details or stock pics or anything and you have to decide if you want something NOWNOWNOW

smells like lolitabitchbook vendetta-chan in here

>>6708966
>>6711183
>>6711077
Jelly lolis who cant afford fees be all up in this thread!

>>6711183
Her fees are way too much, but I don't know how services that only charge 5% can make any money. Guess they add on extra fees like transport fees and things like Yunni does, and then sit at home and order.

>>6711241
Different anon but those fees are high. I wouldn't be able to afford using her service. She could probably get commissioned more if she lowered her fees.. Still the prices is her to decide..

Captcha: economic protags

>>6711262
They are pretty ridiculous.. agreed, but if you've got the money. -shrugs-
It's a pity though because it would be great to have another good ss.

>>6711265
for a set it's like a $90 fee not including shipping! what even?? what does an extra $90 dollars cover??

>>6711267
I don't agree with those prices, but maybe they just want to get money? They don't really need an excuse.

>>6707902
bump, ap san fran confirmed to have stock and us site stocking at 12pst.... would that give any indication of when the international site might stock?

>>6712092
Okay, excuse the retarded question, but would 12pm "saturday" be tomorrow's 12pm or in two days?

>>6712103
uh it would be Saturday in the US, PST 12

>>6711267
She's paying herself is how I see it.
But hey, if someone's desperate enough to pay the extra $100 for the set I won't lose sleep.

>>6711267
>>6711262
>>6711246

This. I don't understand why her fees are so damn high.

10% to 20% I think is reasonable, but $80 before shipping? DDC doesn't cost $1000, right?

>>6712141
Yeah but... she's the only one who charges that much? Like I don't understand, the other private SS don't charge that much and they pay themselves too?

>>6712154
Because she's a greedy bitch and knows people are desperate for this release so she can get away with it.

Paying that hefty SS fee might end up being cheaper than the prices the dress might go for. It all depends what the buyer's priority is.

How many people bet that DDC isn't even going to be up on the international site? Or if it is, the most unpopular cuts and colorways will be up?

Apparently (According to a girl in my comm who's considering using m_miu), she charges those huge fees but doesn't even go via Paypal. That's sort of put me off buying with her. A shame, I really want this dress.

Does she not live in Tokyo then? I assume that maybe she is trying to cover transportation costs? Either way, no way in hell would I ever pay that much for a ss.

i wonder if rosaire is going to mess up her ddc reserve and we're going to get another infiniteneya story.

>>6713159
OT but is anyone else waiting for orders to be shipped from Rosaire for stuff bought late Feb? She said she'd either ship last Sunday or this Wednesday but I still haven't seen an update? I am not vendetta-chan, I am just curious if anyone has been talking to her privately.

AP put up the item restrictions. Only 2 main items per person (and 1 of each color, you can't buy 2 pink OP). Same with accessories. This limit applies to all stores and the online shop, no going to multiple stores to buy more.

>>6713208
IDK man but knowing Roseaire, you are probably going to have to wait a bit. I honestly do not think she is a scammer but people shouldn't use her if they want something quick.

>>6713208
Why don't you ask her privately instead of coming on here trying to start drama?

>>6713219
I don't think the anon was trying to stir drama. But I do agree that they should have went to rosaire first instead of coming to cgl to ask, like that other anon who had issues with Lockshop.

MY BODY IS READY. I am praying that I get something from this series because Sugary Carnival is my favorite print and this is very similar to it. I haven't been able to pay for Sugary Carnival's high prices so this may be my chance to own something similar.

>>6713219
>>6713235
>I haven't had a chance to check and see whose orders are complete (and therefore will be shipped) so please don't ask me about this yet

This is why I did not ask her. I thought maybe someone closer to her who had ordered may already be in private contact with her about it.

>>6713247
PM her anyway if you're so worried about it you had to come on /cgl/ and post about her right after someone tried to incite drama about her ss.

>>6713253
oh my glob! who's starting the drama?? hmmmm?

KARASU STOLE MY PICTURES

>>6713253
Sorry I just thought someone may have already contacted her about it who is friend's with her. I'd rather not bother her if she already has other people PMing her... nothing I said had any drama in it man, clam down.

>>6713266
>>6713253
STOP THIS. RIGHT NOW.

>>6713239
SC is not even that expensive anymore. Funny thing is I've seen it go for more on the auctions than I do on the comm sales. Weird.

>>6713271
MAKE ME!

>>6713266
>>6713270
>>6713268
>>6713271
>>6713276

such fun.

cadney is trying to get ddc using rosaire. i am going to fucking laugh my ass off if rosaire doesn't get it because she's sitting on her fat ass feigning illness and cadney is going to pull an octavekitten.

How will shopping services get round the two item limit?

>>6713295
They won't, assumedly.

>>6713291
it all comes down to a lottery to see who gets in first anyway. if you use a shopping service you know that it's a risk you take ( your ss may just draw the last number) not much you can do but wait and see, pretty sure Cadney is aware of this and is a lot more dignified inthe way she handles her shiz than octavekitten.

Rosaire has a friend helping out so she was able to get a better chance at getting items this time round. :/

>>6713282
let's get back to the fun now.

Cadney looks horrible in OTT Sweet, she needs to pick a different style.

o wait.
no
I rather her stay away from classic. more dresses for me

>>6713318
shut down, so finds something else to nark about!

How did a thread about a new release suddenly turn into Rosaire/Cadney wank?

Shut the fuck up or post about DDC.

So any info on when it'll go up on the international site?

I'm really new to the world of lolita fashion, and I need some help clarifying something.
When a price has a ¥ sign next to it, does that mean the price is in Chinese RMB or Japanese Yen?

>>6713325
some time Saturday. where have you been?

>>6713326
Is it on a Japanese website? Then it's yen. If its on Taoba, yuan. Fucking durrr

>>6713326
Yen! you shall learn.

>>6713291
proof of her sitting on her fat ass feigning illness

>>6707902
I'm not a fan of the jsk with the tulle it just seems like to much with the top bow and the print i like the plain version as it seems more balanced.

>>6713329

I know it's Saturday, I wanted a rough idea of the time.

>>6713326
Don't be put off by our responses. think of it like you are in college and we are hazing you. (we have all experienced it)

>>6713340
Not if you're not a dumbass

>>6713338
Ap have never in there history given a time as to a release on an international site! :/

the USA store however says 12pm.

>>6713326

>>6713342 and these people dear newbie are called lurkers who watch and wait while others ask questions so they don't feel the sting of responses! :D

>>6713343

I'll probably spend all of today/tomorrow (Timezones) refreshing then to see if I can grab it.

>>6713352
Pretty much what everyone who didn't get a hold of a shopping service will be doing. I wish you good luck anon. ;)

>>6713351
>:D
>acting like some wise oldfag
fuck off

>>6713357
the sad part - am wise oldfag.
ahh to be young again.

>>6713326
>>6713357
>>6713342
>>6713331

another lesson for dear newbie. you will only find one nice person on CGL at any given time.

>>6713356

And the same to you, if you're hoping to grab it.

I've got Chibi Tenshi trying to grab the skirt in sax for me, but as I'm probably at the bottom of her list, she won't be able to get it, so I'm trying to get it elsewhere.

>>6713359
u should probably stop posting and go back to lurking

>>6713357
...ok.

>>6713364
I though she was going to be out of the country so I didn't bother contacting her. dang it! >.<

>>6713372
>>6713364
Yeah?
>I will be away from Japan from March 20th until April 5th,

>>6713380
maybe she has other people shopping for her?

>>6713383
Maybe, but she says that is why her Shopping Service is closed...is because she's out of the country

>>6713372
>>6713380
>>6713383

She has confirmed she has somebody else shopping for her. Emailed all of us the other day.

>>6713386
lucky!

I hate that the only reliable ss for AP reserves is chibi_tenshi. I have had no luck with others but chibi_tenshi has never let me down.

>>6710918
How short is Gloria?

>>6713408
bawwww

>>6713424
u mad rosaire?

>>6713444
No she's just fat and "sick"

I like the sax and ivory colorways best because the print stands out without looking too harsh. I find the lavender colorway to look washed out so I'm pretty surprised by how popular it is. I'm pretty surprised by how the black colorway isn't that popular since for SC, it was.

Someone should report Rosaire for what she is doing. That's against the rules.

>>6713478
no it isn't. lol. go to bed vendettachan.

>>6713479
but anon, rosaire's vendetta-chans are in tokyo and just waking up now. they've got atleast 6 more hours to shit up the thread. aren't you excited i know i am...

>>6713482
We get it everyone hates Rosaire poor her boo hoo hoo

i am going to be so jealous of those people who get it.

>>6713478
How bout we report yunni instead for bringing a fucking army to AP and hitting up several stores in one day to clean house.

>>6713485
Poor you boo hoo hoo you brought her up for months and now you're mad people got tired of your shit boo hoo

>>6713501
But no one hates Yunni and she has no drama, so why bother?

>>6713485
sitting pretty with a morning coffee ready to vendetta it up?

>>6713505
My god you are retarded.

>>6713291
>cadney is going to pull an octavekitten.

So...

Cadney's going to get her item within the time frame she requested, thank rosaire for it, then lie about it several months later to help out a friend's vendetta?

>>6713505
>yunni's not fat so I don't hate her

Just be honest, vendetta-chan

>>6713511
Lisa, go to bed.

anyone else wonder which shopping services popular lolitas with large wardrobes use? i wonder how they always get the most popular items.

>>6713523
chibi tenshi.

>>6713505
>Yunni
>Multiple complaints about here not sending items, including proof
>Takes full amount of transportation money from multiple people to go on one trip
> Or just takes transportation money and stays home and buys it online
>Won't give you a refund but will send you links to auctions
>Spends money she gets from clients before buying their items

Pretty off topic but this anon >>6713523 reminded me: who are the lolitas with the droolworthy wardrobes?
Is it still pixie_late, etsplanations, redtonic, and herajika?

>>6713523
obviously every ss knows to give the popular ones the spots.

>>6713501
Yes please god yes

>>6713535
trolololol

>>6713505
Did you not see that egl thread about her service and her piss poor communication coupled with quick and suspicious invoicing?

No non-Japanese lolita will have a wardrobe as awesome as herajika's.

>>6713534
I think Jahr? People complained about her a lot. I think cling123 has a big promenade wardrobe, too.

>>6713542
And then nothing happened, but the Rosaire drama drags on and on.

>>6713535
That's such bullshit. money is money, who cares whose you're getting?

>>6713547
Otome. Autocorrect.

>>6713535
Actually if I were an SS I think I'd be more likely to give the dresses I get to the clients I believe who would be the most loyal and use my services again. Instead of the ones that would get huffy and angry at me and then badmouth everywhere if I was unable to get them something.
I think a big wardrobe is a good indication that a lolita would be more likely to use my services again for another series.
Just my honest observation. Not saying all SS do this.

>>6713534
vysanthe's wardrobe post was fucking amazing.

>>6713547
whatever happened to jahr and cling123? i only see them post sales now :(

>>6713547
I don't think so. Both of them have downsized a lot.

>>6713556
Jahr did a wardrobe post in January, but cling didn't, guess it was too big/ she was too busy. I assume that they still own a lot, though.

Fanny's wardrobe is my favorite! The best classic lolita wardrobe hands down.

>>6713519
>only rosaire can point out the stone cold facts of what octavekitten did

Lol no. Octavekitten is a dumb bitch who got caught lying. That's no one's fault but her own. I only wish she was fat so her reputation was actually affected by what she did.

so.. will these be available on the international shop midnight tonight?

>>6713523
Chibi tenshi. She's reliable/responsible, nice, and has low fees. Also helps that she lives in Sendai where there's a lot less competition for stuff

>>6713535
Not even funny but I have witnessed this. Sad but true. Although if I ever ran an SS I know I would give priority to friends : /

Speaking of SSs, has the Mai thing gone anywhere?

>>6713560
Jahr's wardrobe is so small! Why did so many people hate her then? There are people who posted with larger wardrobes.

>>6713572
Last I read she was trying to get more people to join the suit so they could all split costs. Japanesse police didn't respond so she needed money to hire a good domestic lawyer.

>>6713567
I though chibi's ss fees were on the high side. did they go down?

>>6713577
I wonder if anyone else is going to do it; people seem to be really bad at getting their money back from scanners. Understandably, it's an arduous process.

>>6713534
check out alyssiumbaby's http://egl.livejournal.com/19030792.html
i was blown away

>>6713578
She lowered them to compete with other services undercutting her.
>5% per item
>10-15% reserves

from what I remember. She really isn't a perfect SS but no one wants to be the bitch to give her a neutral or negative review. Not starting drama! It is just fact that people tip toe around popular users these days.

>>6713578
5% or sometimes 10% for reserves and sometimes a small transport fee. That's pretty cheap considering that she is so great with customer service

>>6713582
C'mon, spill the beans. You can't just leave it at that.

>>6713582
Her fees have always been low and to be honest she's probably the best of any personal SS

>>6713585
People talk about it on the comm but its not a big deal.
An example I remembered is animerei's comment here
http://egl.livejournal.com/19107501.html

>>6713586
I agree she is the best. They've always been low but I don't believe they have been 5% forever. When more and more people started using auction services to buy second hand business for SS decreased.

>>6713542
And where she lies about fees saying cod fee is twice the actual amount, and charging everyone a big transport fee but then just buying online

>>6713634
But no one gives a fuck because she has no drama, so she gets away with it.

>>6709038

But Hot Topic doesn't sell mostly $300+ dresses that cost a shit ton to manufacture.

>>6713762
I think that qualifies as drama. Who uses her besides AP crazy noobs anyway?

The release can't come fast enough. I am anxious and want to know if I got it.

>>6713332
I want Midori to beat me

I reserved with yunni and miu miu... Tulle jsk, socks and tights with each. Worst comes to worst I'll have two sets? ...or none -___-

What does everyone consider to be the most desirable/popular main piece from the series? I haven't heard anyone talking about the salopette even though salopettes have been outrageously popular past couple of summers. The consensus seems to be on the tulle JSK but I'd like to hear opinions.

bump, today's the day

>>6714199
it's been confirmed that it's the tulle lavender jsk from the 6 different shopping services I've approached

half an hour until the release!

>>6714947
In Japan or on the SF site?

bump! anybody get anything?

>>6715031
Could be wrong but it doesn't actually seem to be up yet