/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Moneysinkforsnarkybitchesita

>>6811223
LaFawnduh

granny wear

aristopops

vintage that never really existed

frillies

Alice style? Momoko kei?

I'd name it FrillysillyripmydressandI'llyellshrilly Japanese vestments.

>>6811247
>Momoko kei
Lol I love it.

>>6811251
oh my fuck

Cosplay.

DignifiedDamsel

MementoMademoiselle / MemoirMaiden

LegacyLass


I think I just gave people ideas for names of their indy shops didn't I?

Pretty clothes.

I dunno. I'm not very imaginative.

I would steal Dolly-kei.

>>6811307
GAAAAAAAAAAAAY

And you did, I call dibs on LegcayLass

Lovely-kei maybe?

poofy dress style

lace and stuff

GIRLY CLOTHES

Choiseul Fashion, after the Passage Choiseul area in Paris where there were a lot of makers of clothing and accessories for bisque dolls back in the day.

Lass? Sounds less sexual at least.

>>6811223
Rufflebutt

>>6811381
all of these

>>6811247
Momoko-kei sounds nice, actually. Rococo-kei would be good too.

hime-kei, because bitches be lookin like princesses in them rufflebutt dresses.

>>6811401
RUFFLEBUTT MASTER RACE
or my captcha: fringfra

>>6811247
Momoko kei sounds awesome. I wish we could rename it like that.

doll stlye or victorian girl seem to work just fine for me

>momoko-kei

What the fuck, guys?
That's retarded. Just because some character named that wore lolita? It would make sense if she had something to do with the style's origin, but it's just a girl from a mediocre book/film.

Rori is cute. Why not? We call it "Hime", not "Princess" style. And we call "Mori", not Forest style.

So it seems most logical to call it Rori.

>>6811384
Aww that's cute anon.

>>6811533
>>6811533
>yfw two of those are boys

I don't care about the name as long as I don't have to constantly explain to strangers how Lolita isn't the other Lolita.

>>6811355

I really like this one.

anything with -kei and especially momoko-kei give me major weeb vibes, crikey.

>>6811561
I-I picked it because I thought it was a lovely word for all the pretty people...

I'm too uneducated and fashion-backwards to wear lolita so I get super-jelly at all the beautiful clothes

>>6811223
I just wish we said it with the l/r sound instead of a hard R.

If I answer "L/rorita, it's a fashion from Japan", no one even mentions the book.

>>6811562
Roosevelt is best resident

>>6811701
whut? ppl dressed their little boys like this??

>>6811711
it used to be a gender neutral clothes

>>6811730

>>6811737
tfw kodono your doing it wrong

>>6811741

>>6811743

I like Rococo-kei.

>>6811746
captca:opolkso son

>>6811698
This! Lets just be weeb and say RORI, it works and people won't ask.

>>6811730
>>6811711
Do people actually not know that??

>>6811751
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeching_%28boys%29

Louis XV is best king

>>6811770
they're not rori enough

>>6811770
Not in America they don't.

Wtf. Lolita is fine. Go away you weebs who can't deal with just saying "it's a fashion from japan"

>>6811237
In like Aristopops
>>6811307
I hate the word lass unless someone with the right accent says it, and even then it's usually said to belittle you. Ugh.

I normally call it NeoVictorian or A Style From Japan ( "Oh you mean like Gwen Stefani? Harajuku style!"). Neovictorian is a total lie but it fits enough.

Dolores.

(get it? 'Cause it's another name for Lolita? /shot)

>>6811890
This. If you're stupid enough to tell someone that it's called "Lolita" before saying anything else, don't be surprised at the reaction.

I usually just say that it's a japanese fashion, a victorian-inspired style, or just refer to them as frilly dresses.

>>6811917
Only if we get to hang up plates with cats on them and wear pink all the time.

>>6811929

It'd be a crime not to.

How about fantasy vintage?

>>6811929
you mean you dont already do that???

>>6811237
aristopops sounds like some sort of weird spinoff of pastel goth

Why give a name when you can dance like a jellyfish instead?

>>6812123
genius

>>6812246
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE3ZHplqkrY

YOU GOTTA WIGGLE WIT IT

>>6811890
Except you already get the dirty looks before you can get to the '..It's a fashion from Japan' part.
Lolita is such a terrible name and I hate when people ask me what I'm wearing because I don't want to say 'lolita'. I'll just say 'EGL' or 'loli'.

>>6812411
Just say "it's a fashion from Japan" or "it's a street fashion from Japan". Don't even need to say the name.

>>6812411
I say that it's a Japanese street fashion and I've never gotten dirty looks.

I always say Harajuku style
and ppl are always like "Wish we could change the style" umm we fucking can, did you know kodona is not the correct term for boystyle, nobody in fucking japan uses it yet we westerners keep on using even though it's really called ouji in Japan. So if everyone in the western comm keeps saying kodona....why can people change lolita.

neo-victorian

frilly-kei?

>>6811223
Mini Victori Style

I saw some one call it "Japanese Victoriana" in a steam punk book. I thought that was a pretty cool name for it.

>>6815896
This is already a thing.

rori
rori kei
frilly kei
egl

why is lolita even called lolita?

>>6816282
I've always seen people/timelines blame Mana. He named his brand Elegant Gothic Lolita and people just applied the name to everything because he's one of the people who popularised the style when it started to actually gain some momentum.

>>6816282
because japan thought lolita was just a Portuguese name for a cute girl
LITTLE DID THEY KNOW

Saying rorita slightly offends me. I'm more 14/88 then any of you, but when people replace the L with R, it's usually meant in a mocking way.

>>6812123
YES. this plz.

>>6816357
why? japan doesn't have an R or L. Lolita/Rorita are both correct for the fashion.

>>6816374
Japan doesn't have an L sound, they have an R sound that is even romanized as R, just it has a slight L sound to it as well.

Why do you think the stereotyped 'accent' is 'ooohh so arr asians rook arike'

Why not just Elegant Gothic?

>but what about sweet!

It's fashion I ain't gotta explain shit to normalfags. Most of them don't have a real genuine interest in what we've got going on anyways, they're just looking for a word to describe us with when they laugh about us to their friends.

>>6816357
You're an idiot

>>6811340
This. It's a perfect name and dolly-kei is just going to go out of style in a couple years anyway leaving that name in a grave.

>Every lolita claims she isn't into ageplay
>Every fetish thread is filled with lolitas admitting they have ageplay fetishes

>>6816736
There's quite a few lolitas that are into age play.
I'm not, and I don't wish to be associated with it.

>>6811770
Some people don't even know who Hitler is. Some American, college-age people.

I was trying to describe it to a middle age co-worker today, and I told him it was a fashion from Japan like Alice in Wonderland on LSD.

I also told him I smoke tons of weed, please god don't let him tell my boss.

>>6816788
I have to believe this isn't true or I may kill myself.

>>6811223
Until around 2009 when the FBI started blocking the term, I could've sworn Lolita was Spanish porn and nothing to do with Loli

>>6821551
I heard about this guy called Hitler on TV last night, and, like, he's been killing sooo many people ...! Gosh. Someone should, like, stop him!

>>6811772
He is my favorite king
They have this painting in the met museum close to where i live in NYC

>>6811711
are you new to life? That's very gender neutral. Back when people didn't make such a big fucking deal about men having to shave their heads bald and women have to have hair at least to their shoulders. it's just clothing, anon

>>6811427
rococo kei?
No.
that wouldnt even work for gothic or sweet style.

Lolita or Rorita is fine on it's own. Just learn to explain what the fashion is better. geez, lazy americans

>>6821595
I LOL'd

>>6821595
yeah, him and kony!!!

>>6811772
you forgot the I at the end

>>6811247
I like Alice style.
I don't like names that have -kei in it unless it's dolly-kei.
Otherwise.. Alice doll? idk

Am I the only one who does not want to change the name?

>>6826923
Probably not, but that's no fun at all.

Am I the only one who does not want to change the name

Fluffybutt Laceypuffs

>>6811770
>live in Finland
>praised for best education in the world
>this is never ever mentioned in any history lesson

>>6826979
That's people want us to think that dresses are a product of sexist patriarchal society and used as form of control and power against women!!!!!!
But that's just a guess.

In all honesty I tried telling some of my feminist friends this and they didn't believe me until I showed them photographic proofs, so it could be related.

>>6826983
Dresses for both genders of children were easier because a) changing diapers, b) only have to make one set of clothes for a period where they grow out of them really quickly anyway and c) you're not a man, why would you wear pants?

Hint if no one's mentioned it: in old photos to tell if a child is a boy or a girl, check their hair. Boys are parted down the side, girls down the middle. Ta-dah!

I always say doll-like fashion or Japanese street fashion.
never ever mention lolita.

>>6811223
>If you could, what would you rename the fashion?

Birth control fashion. No woman ever has to worry about attracting male attention in these clothes.

>>6811890
Here people will think it's even more suspicious if i say "It's from japan". Though I've never had anybody asking me to explain, when does that exactly happens to you guys?

>>6812237
it sounds like candy to me

I've been playing "style savvy trendsetters" recently and I noticed that they renamed lolita fashion in the game "princess fashion"
there is even "gothic princess" and they talk about "meeting up with their princess friends"

I thought that was a good way to put things.

>>6827200
You're a genius.

I'm just going to start calling it that.
>gothic princess
>sweet princess
>classic princess
>princess punk

>>6827202
forgot trip
hey, I didn't think of it, just love the game. (anyone want to give me their store codes to share princess clothing?)

>>6811384
I like that. It's not a 'word' like "lovely-kei" or whatever.
If only it was easier to pronounce for people not familiar with French.

>>6811223
"Gothic Victorian"

>>6811384
I like this a lot.

When asked what the fuck I am wearing, I like to say that I'm wearing ladypunk, as lolita for me is a mix of punk idealism and pretty lady victorian clothes. Also, everytime I say lolita I get frightened stares, as I look like a 13 years old kid.

What is that anime on the right in OP's pic?

>>6827325
Kodomo no Jikan, basically the most infamous lolicon anime ever.

>>6816736
>the fact that a few people both dress in lolita and have ageplay fetishes mean that every lolita ever do too and we're all just shy

>>6827325
boku no pico

>>6821551
It is true. I was shocked with the Anne Frank and Justin Bieber thing but then I found there was much, much worse things out there.

>>6827335
Thank you~

>>6821551
My friend in NH didn't know about the holocaust, she's in college right now.

>>6827343
It's not really all that good. It starts out great but they keep going with it and it ends up losing it's plot and becoming more fanservicy.

>>6821551
I wasn't aware of the Armenian Genocide until college. US public education doesn't have the highest priorities...

>>6827364
US education is very western centric, much like europe. You usually have U.S. history and world history, which is just the most basic of basic highlights of western thought. We barely touched on anything arabic or asian besides mentions of other religions. Though I actually find U.S. history pretty fascinating for skipping the thousands of years of territorial struggle.

Each state will likely require you to study up on their own history as well to graduate. While I'm not aware of any historical tensions between finland and russia, I doubt either of those country would care about the cotton gin, choctaw indians, or carpetbaggers.

It's all in the matter of perspective. As long people are aware and open to new information, there is nothing wrong with being more naturally inclined to information that is closer to us.

>>6827356
I'm only looking for some eye candy to watch while in the bed before I sleep so it should be ok.

>>6816327
>because japan thought lolita was just a Portuguese name for a cute girl
where the hell did this portuguese bullshit come from

>>6827420
have fun with the HUGE DEPRESSING PLOT TWIST!

>>6828022
How do you feel having your language mistaken for it's close cousin now, brrrrrrrrrrotherrr?

>>6827406
>us education is western centric
>turkey thinks its europe. ottoman empire heavily influenced european history, etc
not seeing your point?

>>6828035
Uh, I live in Europe and we covered Armenian Genocide in school, when we discussed WWI. It was middle school, btw. We also covered Japanese industrialism in 19th century and opium wars.

>>6816282
Ok, so I stumbled upon this thread on a whim, and I'm actually going to tack my name on this because I'm honestly looking for information.

I've been trying to figure out where the name came from recently because I got curious, and, I actually found a timeline that puts the movie lolita out in 1998 in Japan, which is fairly early in the documented timeline of this fashion's history. BUT I can't find any pre-1998 publications on fashion to see if any of them call it lolita (or what they called it) before then.
Mirror of timeline translation (it's no longer on the live web where I found it): http://www.rainedragon.com/2004/04/

A number of lolita brands existed prior to the movie release, but they didn't necessarily have websites.

So, just sort of as a shout out, if anyone has anything pre-1998 that features lolita fashion and calls it... anything, really, I'd be interested in seeing it? or being told the title and date if it's something I can buy still (like actual books).

>>6828228
It already says why on the Japanese wiki page for Lolita. That page also doesn't list ero as being any kind of style and lists punk lolita as lolita punk, being a punk style inspired by lolita and not the other way around.