/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>7344382
>not look like a massive faggot
The trick is to not act like a massive faggot.

People seem to think that just because they are at a convention they can drop all everyday social skills in favor of being lolSORANDOM.

And just because someone is cosplaying a character you hate it doesn't mean you should yell at them or harrass them.

>>7344382
>>7344389
Different anon, but this is actually an important issue, not just for helping people make friends but to help people not creep others out or make them uncomfortable.

If you're a guy, just don't be ugly. That's all I ask, ugly guys creep me out.

>>7344415
> b8

>>7344415
Personally, I'm not shallow, so as long as a guy doesn't smell bad or isn't dirty/unclean, then I'm alright with him. It's not like people can help how their face naturally looks... Then again, I'm chubby, so that's probably why my standards are ~so low~. What's with all the trolls and shallow asshats on here?
>inb4 hurr it cgl wht u expext

What do if an overeccentric, possibly slightly autistic guy comes up to you and startes gushing about magical girls?

Last con I went to this happened, but he seemed nice so I just sort of awkwardly went along with it, but he was really weirding me out, standing way too close to me, getting REALLY excited.

Just be outgoing.
>walk up to qt cosplay grill
>"Hhhhh-hi I like your c-cosplay. Can I have a uhhhh, uhm p-picture?"

At this point she's immediately creeped out. Instead, go for something like this.
>walk up to qt cosplay grill
>"Hey! Awesome cosplay! Mind if I get a picture with you?!"

It shows enthusiasm, confidence, and respect. If they say no at this point, you're either ugly as fuck, look like you're the type to shoot up a school, or they're a bitch. Or you smell because you're gross ass hasn't showered since the night before the convention.

You see somebody wearing a cosplay you love.

You walk up and give a smile and say, "Hey! That's a really cool cosplay. Mind if I get a pic?"

Respect if they say no. Understand and read body language. If pic is yes, continue conversation.

"Man, that cosplay is wicked! How did you make ___ or ___ this part?"

This is where you make it or break it. Don't be a creeper. Be enthusiastic, but not overly so. Don't press your agenda on him/her. Don't insist they're your favorite character, or xxx-is clearly superior. Talk about the craftsmanship, but if you sense the conversation is over, thank them for their time and depart.

If not, feel free to engage. Keep talking about it, ask her/him questions. Get them to talk. Engage normal conversation mode.

I dunno, works for me every time. I even got a pic at Sakuracon of infamous-awesome EVA-2 guy eating a popsicle because fuck yeah.

>>7344423
>Then again, I'm chubby, so that's probably why my standards are ~so low~
That explains everything.

Somebody tell me how to date a cosplay grill.

>>7344461
>go to Home Depot
>purchase a grill
>go to eBay
>purchase a cosplay outfit of your choice
>put on grill
>turn grill on
>put your face onto grill

(I'm seriously tired of this grill shit. You sound like a fedora. Stop)

>>7344489
Thanks, going to Home Depot soon.

Now how do I date a cosplay girl?

>>7344505
Honestly, there are several ways. Going to a lot of anime cons is how I met my fiancé. You could also try to make a thread on cgl to see who's in your area. Cosplayers in the same area all tend to know each other, so you could meet someone by mutual association. Going to cons and just talking to people, especially at panels or board game areas works.

One thing I tend to have a hard time with is hopping into character when interacting with somebody else who is wearing a related cosplay to mine.

Do any of you have trouble with that? I know some people hate it, and others love it so much that they don't get out of character unit the convention is LONG over.

>>7344382
Could someone tell me how to find/make some friends if alone at convention?

How can I use my cosplay to meet girls that are cosplaying a character from the same show as I? Stuff like Persona, Attack on Titan, Mirai Nikki, etc.

>cosplay male lead from anime
>find cute female lead from same anime
>want to go out with her

what do

>>7344555
Pick your spaghetti up off the floor, and talk to her.

Ask her about her craftsmanship, or what got her into _____ (insert appropriate name of anime/manga/etc)

>>7344532

Go to a /cgl/ meet-up and not be the biggest autist there.

>>7344563
Not >>7344555 , but I feel like both of those are generally cheesy conversation starters.

Definitely talk to her though. Try complimenting her cosplay, asking her if she's here with anyone, etc. I once went as Zero from Code Geass and met a CC just by asking if she'd be down to hang out for the day since she was there alone. If a photographer happens to stumble upon you two near each other, then you hit the jackpot. Typically they'll go for group photos, because they're immensely popular, and a photoshoot can really break the ice.

>>7344577
Excuse my stupid but.. There are cgl meetups? How did I not know about this? I've been here for 2 years.

>>7344489

>not wanting to actually fuck a grill

Nigga are you gay?

>>7344586
at most major conventions there will be a cgl meetup with the exception of ALA because ALA itself is a cgl meetup. a time and place will be posted, a bunch of people will gather, and then stuff will happen.

>>7344597
nah, just a grill

>>7344600
Thanks, friend! I find there aren't as many major conventions in western Canada as I would hope, though.

>>7344600
Sexy stuff?

>>7344613
generally no
but there may be drinking involved and who knows what happens after that?

>>7344612
oh. yeah. that might be a problem.

>>7344613

no. most gulls are pretty boring and average people in reality, but there's always that one cute guy/girl there. maybe you'll be the one that makes the sexy stuff happen, anon.

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>>7344623

Spouting memes and begging people to give you their numbers also works wonders, too.

>>7344427
Learn how to politely excuse yourself. It's a good skill to have in general, that way you can get yourself out of uncomfortable situations without pissing anyone off.

>>7344627
As if any girl would date a guy who sprouted memes like a moron

>>7344639
I've seen that shit work. Rarely though.

>>7344623
I don't like when people summarize what I've just said, if they do it I just sit there listening to something I've just said and wonder why they feel the need to remind me. I'd much rather keep the conversation flowing instead of holding it back with polite acknowledgement

I just usually put on my robe and wizard hat.

>>7344555
I suppose getting to know her as an actual person and not a fictional character and THEN deciding if you want to go out with her is out of the question?

>>7344643
It's just some suggestions; not all of these will necessarily apply to conventions. You can't always listen to everything a person said without having to exit a conversation sometimes, especially at cons when strangers will talk your ear off for half an hour if you let them.

>>7344646
How many magic missiles does it take to woo a lady?

>>7344684

Dunno, I usually start with a Lv. 3 Eroticism.

>>7344689
What if they roll high enough to resist it?

>>7344693
Then you cast magic missile into darkness.

>>7344646
I get it!

>>7344698
Dang son, all these references to things I've heard of is getting me... flustered.

>>7344382
>It depends on the group
>usually start causal talk before more indepth discussions. I.E Introductions, question where you from, what are looking to see, and if their enjoying themselves.
>a ice breaker I find that works is having snacks and packs of drinks sharing is caring especially when food at or around the con is expensive.
>as for making friends depend on how the early interaction went, you'll run into each other continue chat, meet up later maybe do something out of the convention, up to you decide whether or not stay in contact to make that friendship.
>generally the cosplayers I've run into are open to have photo take just ask to take photo generally say yes no ifs, whats, or buts, except if they say no then leave it at that.
>as for looking like a massive faggot, just enjoy your self but not at the expense of others and be nice.

>>7344612
If you're willing to come down to the states, Washington has some good ones in Seattle. Specifically Sakuracon and PAX.
There's usually a meet up for both, but I've been too dokidoki spaghetti to go. In the threads they seem nice.

>>7344623
>>7344643
Well it's not always a direct summary. It works to mirror what the other person said and then add on something new.

"It's fine to like a kid's show, but I think that some Bronies go too far with their aggressive enthusiasm."
"Yeah, I definitely agree that it can be a bit much! Where'd the idea of 'love and tolerance' go for them?"

Also works for clarification.
"So you think that xxxxx?" with the xxx being a brief summary of what the other person said.
This is especially helpful if you're wrong, because it gives the other person a chance to refine their idea and make sure their getting the right thing across.

It's certainly a step up from just nodding and uh-huhing

step one: don't be a massive faggot
step two: be attractive or interesting

>>7344862
>How to succeed?
>Step 1: Don't fail.
>Step 2: Be successful.
Thank you for the insightful answer. Do you have any more tautologies to share with us?

>>7344882
Hey man, I can't tell you how to be interesting, but you'd be surprised how many people think that you can loiter around a person long enough to get in their pants.

>be shy and autistic
>fail at not looking like a massive faggot from the start

What do?

>>7344892
If you want to be friendly with someone, you're going to have to man up at some point. If you've failed at not looking like a massive faggot at first, recover, try to make it into a laugh, that can be a good ice breaker. If you can't recover, move on. Under any circumstances, do not loiter, that will only make you go from generic con autist to full on creep.
Unfortunately the only way I know to build confidence is fake it till you make it, but the good news is that at a con, you have a lot of opportunities to try again.
Last piece of advice is to learn when you've lost, and don't overstay when somebody just isn't interested.

>>7344892
Work on not looking like a massive faggot.

>>7344521
I'm slightly worried about this. Especially because I haven't watched every single season of the cartoon I'm cosplaying as yet and haven't memorized all the little intricacies that so many cosplayers seemed to have. I don't want to be IC all day, I just want to cosplay and have it not be absolute shit tier for once.

I also have a crappy memory for things like that anyways.

>>7344887
While it might seem obvious to you that being quiet and loitering is miserably ineffective. The person loitering probably has no clue (otherwise they would be trying something else). So simply saying "don't be a faggot" doesn't help them figure out what they're doing wrong.

Or is this a thread where we just laugh at people who fail?

>>7344909
if your really going to get into character, probably find a site that discuss the interaction between the series character. keep a note of the interaction types and use it as reference but if its a short series just watch it and make notes.

>be cute
>hit on at cons a lot
>shy as all fuck
>"Aw, you're adorable, anon. blahblahblahconversation"
>blush and spaghetti everywhere
>"Can I have your number?"
>too shy to say, "No, you're creeping me out."
>ignore texts for weeks after a con

I just want to be friendly without people thinking I'm giving them the go-ahead to hit on me. I know it seems like an easy, "Just tell them you don't give your number out," but I literally can't even imagine saying that. The way I was raised, the thought of disappointing someone by saying no is seriously one of the worst things I can do.

>>7344910
fine
1) Don't be a massive faggot*
2) be interesting or attractive

*being a faggot includes: making people uncomfortable with your loitering, making people uncomfortable with your meme spouting nonsense, making people uncomfortable with your talk about weird shit, making people uncomfortable with your failure to understand when someone is uninterested.

There are a million ways to be a faggot and I aint got time list them all. If you wanna give me scenarios, I can tell you whether you're being a faggot or not.

>>7344906
I've got the horrible problem that I don't know when someone isn't interested as I can't read social cues to the point that they make up the worst possible excuse to leave.

It also works wonders in that I can't tell when a con creeper is hitting on me, so I guess I have that going for me, but it doesn't really work with trying to make friends who share my limited interests (Anime/manga/gaming/lolita is the majority of my interests) as I don't notice they're just trying to get with me until I'm getting called 50 times a week with sexually suggestive conversations.

>spent 3 months talking to a guy thinking we could be friends
>end up blocking his cell because he kept inviting me to orgies on his fucking boat
>fuck my life

>>7344926
>cant say no
What are you, 14? Just fucking say it, if not dont come and complain to us.

>>7344926
>Convention-goer asks for your number
>'Actually, I'd be more comfortable if you gave me yours.'
>Throw away once they're not going to see you do it

>>7344933
Yeah, because it's not like women who say no to men hitting on them ever have anything bad happen to them. Sounds like you've never been out in the real world.

>all this worrying about spilling spaghetti

It's an anime convention, guys. Everyone that paid for a badge is a massive faggot among the normies back home. Just talk to whoever you want and if they reject your advances then chalk it up to them being spergier than you.

>>7344926

Can I have your number, anon.

>>7344931
If you have any friends that are willing to go to cons with you then the buddy system might be helpful. I used to be shit at social interactions, but I sort of grew out of it, which unfortunately, doesn't happen for everyone. It might just come down to practice makes perfect. Maybe try keeping interactions short and if they haven't indicated any interest in talking to you outside of the con, move on to something else? I won't deny that it's hard, because it is.

>>7344940
So giving them your personal information is a better solution?
At least shes in public at a con and presumably with other people.

>>7344938
Well, fuck. I'm hoping it's my brain short circuiting when it's happening, because I seriously don't have any goddamn excuse for not realising to do that sooner.

>>7344926
Just tell them to give you their number instead, then delete it later.

>>7344940
that's a shitty way to go about it.

"Well, if I say no, I'll just take it up the ass anyway, so I might as well never assert myself"

If you're going to concede your right to respect, you'll never have it.

>>7344951
Or even just give them one for something like a pizza joint. There are even fake phone numbers for girls to specifically use on guys trying to pick them up.

>>7344926
its easy to say no, if they don't take no then say im 100% sure, no. if they don't take that then you got your self someone who could be a creeper.
>>7344938
I understand trying not to disappoint someone but all that false hope. what happened to just saying no.

>>7344955
Who's going to bother remembering a fake phone number?

>>7344958
how hard is it to give them an area code and 7 random digits?

>>7344962
I'm going to assume that you've never had someone harass you for your number before. I'm not talking about the average guy here. Most take no just fine. I'm talking about the kind of aggressively oblivious idiots that show up in horror stories. If some guy really refuses to take no for an answer, it's a lot faster to pretend to compromise, take their number and toss it, than spend time arguing about why you're not going to give them yours or try to get away from their nagging.

Read 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' and 'How to Talk to Anyone'. They're more than just manuals on how not to be an autist.

>>7344962
Apparently people today are either too fragile to accept no or too much of a delicate flower to turn someone down properly, I'm not quite sure which is being implied here.

>>7344943
I... probably should just ask about this to a trained professional, I'm sorry. I have a horribly hard time keeping conversations going when it's not about something I'm rabid about and when it is I can't shut up.

Plus I've been raised taught that any social mistake = seipuku, so I tend to just shut up in conversations until I'm absolutely sure that what I'm saying isn't stupid, resulting in me speaking 4 minutes in 30 minutes of people's company. Not exactly 'let's make friends at a con' material.

>>7344943
I... probably should just ask about this to a trained professional, I'm sorry. I have a horribly hard time keeping conversations going when it's not about something I'm rabid about and when it is I can't shut up.

Plus I've been raised taught that any social mistake = seipuku, so I tend to just shut up in conversations until I'm absolutely sure that what I'm saying isn't stupid, resulting in me speaking 4 minutes in 30 minutes of people's company. Not exactly 'let's make friends at a con' material.

I dunno maybe I should've specified I'm not metaphorically autistic but physically autistic.

>>7344958
You don't need to memorize something you make up on the spot.

>>7344975
Maybe. I can really only tell you what works for me. I'm sorry I'm not that big of a help,

>>7344967
>>7344982
I meant for those actual numbers you can give to somebody to get them off your back. Random digits aren't always the best way to go though, especially if someone knows the first 3 digits of an area.

>>7344962
I had a guy who badgered my friends for my phone number after I wouldn't give it to him but the situation was a bit different than anything mentioned here because they were an acquaintance. I don't see why it'd be so difficult to deny a stranger your phone number when you're at a convention, a place with plenty of other people around to go to if things get out of hand.

>>7344991
>especially if someone knows the first 3 digits of an area
It would make the number more convincing if they already know the area code.

>>7344991
look, you have two choices, learn how to be assertive, or invest minimal effort in learning how to be an effective flake.

>>7344976
op here, what I was implying is both here, that some people don't need sugar coating, because sometimes they'll assume other wise so to be straight to the point and truth of the matter will better of in the long run. also cause people to toughen up a bit, realize that no doesn't mean its the end of the world.

>>7345002
I meant that if you let it slip that you're from so and so, and they know the area, you can't just give them a random area code.

>>7345003
Well, I know that. I'm not the one that needs help with telling guys to back off though.

ok, can someone give me good conversation starters with:

>Cosplayers

>Lolitas

>Non-dressed up congoers

>>7345024
1) Who cares? There can be over a million people in an area code, they aren't going to track you down with that.
2) Even if they could, you know more than one area code, just use that one. Y'know what, I'll give you one. Use 847-584 and then 4 random digits. Congrats, you are winner. How'd you get to AX from Illinois? I dunno, took a bus, who cares? Stop being a wet blanket. If you're going to shoot down every viable solution to a problem, then come up with your own god damn solutions instead of insisting that it's an unsolvable problem.

>>7345050
>cosplayers
start small talk
complement cosplay if recognizable
if unfamiliar talk about their cosplay have them explain series or character
talk about series type, if your big on anime may lead to series your familiar with.
if none of that progress, talk about interests or con.
>lolitas
no-experience with
>non dressed congoers
start small talk
talk about con
talk about instrest, what they've seen, heard, looking for at con.
how about the con? you enjoying it.

>>7345061
I don't really care all that much. I'm just saying that if you give them an area code that doesn't exist for an area, then they'll see you for the flake you are instead of figuring it out later.

>>7345050
Cosplayers: Hey, I really like your cosplay, how did you do X?

Lolitas: Hey, I really like your oufit, where did you get X?

Non-dressed up congoers (ill advised if you aren't already good at conversation): (generic non-invasive complement) (some prompt for them so that they conversation can start easily)

Just identify a common interest and go from there.

>>7345075
also adding to if you give them a bunch of numbers, and they give you 2 mins to forget the numbers you state. will you be able to repeat that number again if they ask " what was your number again?"

>>7345075
Then don't give them a phony area code. If you can't remember 3 digits, then I don't believe you have the mental acuity to even speak.

How do I drop hints/escalate things with a qt cosplaying girl without coming off as a creep? I'm not overweight, I'm clean shaven and I plan on showering the morning of the con.

>>7345126
Just whip it out

I will get a lot of flak for this but...

Read up on pick up. A lot of the things PU teaches you do not work because of the reasons they tell you. A lot of the scene is mysoginist as shit as you would expect from nerds that suddenly get pussy.

But it works. If you are socially awkward it will work better than anything else you ever tried.

Just don't become a robot.

Accept that the majority of the people at the con you encounter, no matter what you do, are not going to be interested in hooking up with you.

>>7345130

Trip name and post made me lol

>>7345126
Few times I have hooked up a con I just flat out asked them (after proper intros/flirting ofc) do you want to have a drink? If they say yes (35% of the time) we go to my hotel get tipsy, talk, usually fuck.

If they say no I usually just make an excuse to break away

Funny story about the second part, one time at Sakuracon the girl responded with word for word "thats it? Your not gonna even try?" then she ended up coming anyway, she just wanted to see what I would do next.

I knew it was a matter of time before fedoras disguised as nerds turned this into a "how to hook up " thread

>>7345427
I mean that's what cons are for, right? Pretending to be interested in whatever it's about long enough to get into someone's pants or something?

>>7345435
If you're paying 60+ dollars just to get laid, you're doing it really wrong.

>>7344612
AB, BC or Sask?
The cons in AB used to have threads here on /cgl/ back when Maryjane still lived here. People would organize meet ups but then nobody would show up so they stopped happening. There's still cool people to hang out with though so long as you're a decent person

>>7344612

Western Canada?

You're not from around Calgary, are you?

>>7344958

Just replace one random number in your actual number.
I do it all the time when you have to give your number to buy something.

Here's my tips:

1. EYE CONTACT. If you make eye contact, this shows the person you respect their views or respect them to tlak to them.

2. Be polite and respectful. Manners and respect will get you a long way.

3. Find common ground.

One time I'd lost my map and found a group of people who were holding one up and looking at it if I could look at theirs with them. They were pretty cool. I wasn't really looking for friends at the time but if I was I'm sure that could've been a really smooth transition. They even offered to let me take one of their maps as I parted with them. From my experience most people at cons are really nice. Also, if you try to make a friend and they're mean or off-putting then just walk away and find another person to talk to.

>>7344582
Holy shit
Please dont ask if shes with anyone
Thats fucking creepy as hell
its like
>"hey bby yu alone, imma rape yu l8r."
tier creepy
Just Dont Ever

>>7344623
Wow that actually really helped, in real life too (social anxiety fag that follows the heels of friends to get around cons and take pictures)
thank you

>>7344970
I'm going to assume since you're at an anime con and not a dark parking lot in Lowels, you can
A- walk away
B-walk away and get con staff or security
Not that hard .

to anyone who doesn't have a throwaway number, get a google voice number. you can even text people with it. if you ever have to burn all bridges, toss the number, get a new one. depending on your phone you can even make calls from that number and not your own number and even control whether or not you're masking it.

fuck yeah, google voice.

>>7344926
>sorry, I don't feel comfortable giving my number out
Simple as that. If he still pushes, acknowledge that he's being inconsiderate and the he needs to learn to take no for an answer.

>>7345050
The best way to talk to Lolitas is to remember they are not like cosplayers. Cosplayers are easier to talk to if you are cosplaying the same series and is a great ice breaker. With Lolitas just because you are wearing the same brand as the other Lolita doesn't mean they want to be con besties and take photos with you.

I get happy when I see a Lolita wearing a print I've always liked. I tell her I really like that print/brand and that she looks really cute in it (this is of course if I really do enjoy the way the coord is presented). ASK FIRST before touching any pieces. Lolita is expensive and a quick way to get on a Lolita's bad side is by touching something on her without asking. Then you can go on about local comms, recent Lolita news, Lolita events happening at the con. etc.

>>7345983
Leil Lowndes has really good books that will help you break out of your shell. Really charismatic lady.

>>7344415
i'm an actual runway model. can i talk to u pls bb?

>>7344926
rejecting ugly girls is one of my favourite things in the world. obviously if they're hot i'm not gonna but watching the tiny facial movements of a girl after rudely dismissing them really does it for me

>>7345182
Just fucking don't. If you can't make a connection by being yourself then accept defeat and move on. Enlisting techniques to get laid is pathetic.

>>7345983
Hey, I'm glad it helped someone. You can find more here: http://onlinecounsellingcollege.tumblr.com/tagged/communication-skills

That's just the communication tag. The rest of the blog has some good life advice and self-esteem boosters.

>>7345182
Except more girls are aware of PUA bullshit than you think. Negging doesn't work. Trying to train girls like dogs with buzzwords and stupid tactics doesn't work.

How common of a thing is it to find cosplayers online, then room with them at con? How would I even go about that?

I'm going to a con soon and both need a cheaper room and people to go with. Is that a weird thing to do, or is it common?

It's Shutocon if any of you guys want a roommate

How do I make friends with a bunch cool and skilled cosplayers so that I can start doing this shit more often?

>>7346681
Women say that because they aren't the ones expected to ask guys out. Stop judging when all you do is sit back and let guys do all the work.

>>7346962
Uh... maybe for you and your social circle, but for your "average" person it does work.

Everytime I think of an "average" person I like to look at youtube comments as an example. They are braindead retarded.

>>7346999
I don't recommend going with strangers, or if you do, don't take anything valuable.

You don't want to risk learning the hard way.

>>7347080
>dont take anything valuable
>implying you can leave your virginity, and anal virginity at home

>>7347080
Alright, duly noted.

What about just finding people online to go with during the day, separate from their room?

>>7347085
But if you don't have your virginity anymore ?

>>7347039
It's not any different than normal friends, and it's not something you can force. If people notice that you're trying to be friends with somebody because of some agenda, they're going to be turned off by you. Be friendly, try to connect after the con, if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.

>>7347068
[citation needed]
And not one of those idiotic Youtube videos where they stage making out with "strangers" they spent 10 minutes talking to in public.

>>7347095
PUA is a numbers game. It can happen as long as you get over your fear of rejection and hit on enough girls.

>>7347107
You're still not providing any proof that it actually works.

>>7347107
well, the army shouldn't bother training people how to aim since if you use spray and pray, you'll eventually hit your target, as long as they don't care about casualties and wasting bullets.

>>7347089
Then you take something valuable, otherwise they go home with nothing

>>7347088
I'm so bad at approaching people ._.

>>7345050
>Lolitas
Compliment their outfit, ask them how they got into the fashion or how long they've been wearing it. If you really want a loli gf, I recommend doing a little research about the fashion so you can talk about it more. Don't be intimidated; people think lolitas are bitches, but most of us are just awkward weebs that happen to be dressed fancier than you.
>Non-dressed cosplayers
I would also like to know this. I'm a decent conversationalist, but I don't know how to approach people dressed normally in the first place. If I just knew how to start the conversation, I could take it from there, but I feel like they would be confused/creeped out that I wanted to talk to them when there are so many more distinctive-looking people around...

>>7346999
I know I'm gonna get shit for this, but I would recommend going on tumblr and finding some SJW/Homestuck people. Here's why:
- They have lofty morals and are most likely white and middle class, ergo they have no reason to steal from you
- For the same reasons, they're unlikely to screw you over
- They're less likely get drunk/high and puke on your things
- They won't harass you unless you make a rape joke or something

>>7347305
>Non-dressed cosplayers
Chances are you'll catch them standing around either the dealer's room or artist alley. Just be like "oh hey, you like [whatever they're standing in front of]?", or if they have any swag on them, ask them about that.

>>7347326
You know, I've been trying to hunt around on tumblr for a few cons but I just can't into conversation online. It's just foreign to me. One guy came to me but I'm not sure what caused it. Any tips for trying to find con friends on tumblr?

There's quite a few 4channers on tumblr, and lots of generally cool, stable people on there if you hunt. In case anybody was wondering.

>>7347341
>Browse tag for the con until you see someone who has a cool cosplay/outfit needs a roomie
>Send them an ask and tell them their cosplay is awesome/you also need a room/they have a cool blog/whatever
>It's normal on tumblr to just send a message to someone you think is cool, and it's rarely ill-received

>>7347348
Oops, there should be a slash between "outfit" and "needs a roomie."

>>7347326
That's... surprisingly logical

>>7347184
You aren't killing anybody with pua.

>>7347087
Oh that's easy, go on the con forums or places like cosplay.com

>>7347373
Yeah, but when you fail and look like a creeper, you make everyone else look worse by association.

>>7347379
At least 90% of the guys in the P.U.A. community aren't getting laid. Most people just read The Game and automatically assume they have everything it takes to score with women they've just met; they don't realize that money, physique, and presentation of game are just as important. Just having the courage and charisma to lead a conversation is only a fourth of the battle.

>>7347411
I didn't mean you make the pua community look worse, I meant that you make every congoer look worse. Because of con creepers that are only interested in picking up chicks, average joes with poor social skills are automatically filed under creeps with malicious intent too. Trying and failing with the pua method (whatever it is, I don't know anything about it other than it's pretty sketch) doesn't just devalue the user in the eyes of the failed target, it devalues all congoers, even ones with good intentions.

>>7347379
>>7347423
It's better than not trying. It's not like the average virgin otaku has a better chance with women anyway.

>>7347437
Acting like a sleaze is not better than keeping it in your pants, or are you one of those people that believe that it'll fall off if you don't use it?

>>7347470
So these virgin otakus should just remain socially reclusive and never venture far out of their comfort zone, all for your peace of mind? Meanwhile, every other dude is getting laid and having a fulfilling relationship; but hey- at least some girl isn't uncomfortable for five minutes at her anime convention, right? Women never seem to understand that if you're a guy with poor social skills and an average-tier face, you're fucked. However, if you're a socially-awkward female you will always have the option of getting laid.

>inb4 HURR NECKBEARD DETECTED SOUND THE /r9k/ ALARMS!

>>7347487
Are we supposed to care about your sob story?

Life's tough. Wear a helmet.

>>7347492
You should stop complaining about pua guys then.

>>7347487
Okay, I'm way too lazy to actually look up whatever PUA stuff is, so give me some examples.

>>7347496
Google.com

>>7347499
You should stop defending them as if they're just some poor little boys trying too hard to be big strong men and therefore deserve pity fucks.

Does anybody have/want to share info on behaving at a con rave?

Ways of letting loose, do's/don't's, and whatnot?

>>7347487
Following through on something when there's mutual interest is not what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is aggressive assholes who think that if you keep being assertive that you'll eventually get your way.

I'm not even a socially awkward female, I'm just a dude that's tired of seeing guys fail to notice that it takes a lot more than persistence to form a relationship with someone. Grow up and learn how to actually interact with people.

>>7347502
I don't really care that much. I'm just going to assume it's extremely cringe inducing.

>>7347505
They're working for what they want. I can't be agaisnt of that.

>>7347496

P.U.A. is really just a term to describe guys learning how to to talk with women. There are varying degrees of sleaze associated with the community (ex. negging, hb7, two-text-one-text rule, ect.) but most new guys that get into it just want to have a girlfriend and a satisfying relationship. The community often espouses traditionally conservative ideals with a focus on "alpha male" personality traits; hence, why /fit/ and BB's /misc/ community often talk about game.

A pretty good example of an e-famous P.U.A. would be Nick Krauser. If you read his blog you'll realize that he's a bit of a racist prick that has an unbearable streak of narcissism to his writing (much like most of the community itself), but some of his "tricks" with women are worth looking into. For example, asking more questions than answering when talking with a stranger will give the illusion that the conversation is going very well.

but 2d grills are always gonna be best grills :^)

>>7347538
If you need to trick somebody into being interested in you, you're probably a very uninteresting person.

>>7347562
Every guy has his ways of making women interested.

>>7347506
Do:
>Ask to dance with someone if you think they're cute (if it's a girl, bonus points if she's with friends, as she'll feel safer interacting with a stranger).
>Ask before you attempt to grind on someone. Seriously.
>Bring glow sticks for yourself and friends. They're fun to have, and people love it when you give them glow sticks.
>Actually fucking dance. This seems obvious, I'm sure, but I see people every year in army stance on the dance floor.
Don't:
>Try to dance with someone even after they've refused.
>Assume that if someone agrees to dance with you, they agree to dance ON you.
>Bring poi, hula hoops, or other dance accessories that take up space and can hit people. That is so fucking rude, and you might actually hurt someone.
>Dance like a junglist on speed and hit everyone around you. This means no dance moves that resemble punching, kicking, or jumping in a way that's difficult to control. Again, seems obvious, but apparently it isn't.
>Join dance circles. Dance circles are the cancer of the con raves, and you should not propagate them. All they do is encourage otaku to stand around and watch someone else dance while not doing so themselves (note that this is the only rule that does not apply to actual raves, as people actually dance in dance circles there).

>>7347566
Yeah, that doesn't make all methods equal. If you have to resort to being an asshat, you should probably find a better way.

>>7347572
>being an asshat meaning doing something a good looking guy would getaway with

>>7347566

I just save my file before I make a critical choice and reload it if I chose incorrectly.

>>7347581
The difference between you and a "good looking guy" is that the good looking guy is talking to somebody who is interested, and you are not. And I'm not condoning asshat tactics from "good looking guys" either, but at least theirs are solicited. And to be honest, if you made efforts into learning how to be social and maybe, I dunno worked on your appearance, you'd find that you'll have a lot more success.

Complaining that the game isn't fair never got anybody anywhere.

>>7347581
Maybe if your actions weren't motivated by an inferiority complex, you wouldn't be an asshat.

>>7347588
>you literally must be good-looking to talk to me

Someone got pumped and dumped and is still bitter about it.

>>7347581
Just because a good-looking guy would supposedly get away with it doesn't mean it's okay to do it. Even if he does get away with it initially, women who are reasonably smart and have decent self-esteem know when a guy is a douche and won't stick around for long if they were aiming for a real relationship. The fact that you don't acknowledge this would imply that you probably don't respect women as much as you think you do. Women know when you don't respect them, and that more than anything is what's probably holding you back. I see ugly guys who respect their partners get laid all the time while attractive latent misogynists get left in the dust.
Obviously your behavior is influenced by your need to overcompensate for your looks and not by what any woman would actually want.

>>7347596
Good try but no. You can deflect all you want, but the problem here isn't your looks, its your attitude.

>>7347609

So there's no problem then, right? Decent, self-respectable, strong womyn will reject every P.U.A.'s advances and the mild-mannered guys will win in the end. You've essentially just destroyed the entire seduction community with your post on /cgl/; congratulations.

>>7347570
This is all solid stuff. I kind of disagree with the circles (huge ones are hype, though little ones can be.. eh. A dancer can usually get them hype and going)

Also:
>Be wary of noise. Talk loud, and realize some people may not hear you and react as such. Don't be offended. If you're wearing a mask, this is even more of an issue (learn to speak with your actions, or in my bro's case text your words)
>Conga lines are both hype as hell, and rave transports. Use it to go places. Throw whoever's on your back to the person in front of you as you leave.
>Be wary pulling people into the line, only do it if you're confident.
>If you can't dance, look up videos prior. Or, copy someone who can dance there. Build up a repertoire of dance moves slowly
>No means No; a rejection means no in the future, too
>Kandi is Kancer
>Be wary when kissing people. They are likely sweaty and, therefore, taste salty/sweaty. This may be a pro or con (pro for me, holy shit)
>Be wary what's on the ground. Glasses, badges, phones, etc. Return returnables to the DJ. Maybe pocket some dropped glowsticks.
>If you're wearing full/mostly rave gear, people are typically more OK with you hopping in groups. I can elaborate on this, as I'm vaguely stating it.
>STAY HYDRATED, HOLY SHIT, DRINK EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT THIRSTY, DON'T GO HARD IF YOU DIDN'T EAT/DRINK/SLEEP WELL THAT DAY
>Beware that many women there are traps
>If you can't/don't ask to grind, and they don't just initiate on you, speak with your eyes/body.
>Maintain eye-contact with someone you're dancing one-on-one with
>Hop into groups of people trying to start something (pelvic thrust lines, stuff like that)

I can post a bit more if anyone's actually benefitting from this

>>7347596
>I am more willing/receptive to talking to somebody who is confident and puts effort into their appearance both visually and behaviourally

no shit sherlock

>>7347570
>Ask before you attempt to grind on someone

I can't think of a way to ask that other than "mind if I grind on you?" or better yet, "mind if I rub my crotch on your ass?"

but seriously, I let the girl lead on that one. If they're comfortable grinding, they'll usually "assume the position" after asking them to dance. If not, roll with it.

>>7347487
No one said socially awkward men shouldn't try. They were saying PUA assholes should fuck off so girls aren't automatically on the defensive. Go cry me a river about your shitty social skills. You can work on that shit and not be a total chode about it.

>>7347638
To elaborate I can give dancing tips. A lot of people seem to want advice on that. Ask for specifics if you want advice on dancing, too, please

>>7347506
Don't worry about looking like a freak. Nobody truly cares and if they do they're not having enough fun.

I don't know how to rave dance too well so I can't give you dance tips. I do old school goth 'pulling the cobwebs from the ceiling' dancing combined with some form of belly dancing ... and sometimes typical raver hand waving. I've never had complaints. Just weave a glow stick through your fingers and wave your hands. Rave 101 right there.

Be conscientious of others. Both give others space and make sure you're not flailing so much you're almost punching people. That's so annoying when people do that.

I don't know what else to tell you. Just have fun. I haven't been to con raves so I don't know if they're different than normal raves. Maybe someone that's danced at one can give better tips than I. Everything I know I've gleaned from Starscape and clubs. :p

>>7347634
>Destroyed the entire seduction community
I don't even know what you're trying to say here. Are you telling me you're mad because I've proved that you're a hypocrite and that you can't get laid because you actually suck? Because that's what it's looking like.

>>7347651
Dancing tips would be nice. I can't dance for shit.

>>7347644
Often, I see guys make it obvious they want to get closer by holding out their hand, and if the other person takes it, they ease into grinding by progressively getting closer. This is as good as asking as it's easy to tell someone to stop if you want them to.

>>7347663
I can just throw a bunch of random tips out if you want, but is there anything specific you want to improve? One-on-one, group dancing, etc?

Does anyone have advice on how to deal with drunk people? One of my friends was just like: 'Punch them if they get too aggressive' but like yeah, no...

>>7347570
>I see people every year in army stance on the dance floor.

Why even be on a dance floor then? Go stand at the side.

>>7347657
I'm trying to tell you that I didn't realize what a kawaii anime girl you were and I'd love to get dinner with you sometime, m'lady. Where's the closest torrent I can download your route?

>>7347666
Random tips would be okay. I don't really tend to dance with other people for the most part.

>>7347673
If they're being grabby, then just tell them to back off and move away. If they keep doing it call security, or have a friend call security. That shit's not cool. If they're just being loud and annoying, I'd say just leave them alone.

>>7347674
>I can't convince people that my asshole tactics are just so that the ladies will see that deep down inside I'm just a nice guy, so I might as well get pissy.

>>7347673
If they're just being retarded in the hallways, stay clear. If they approach you (and are hostile), tell them to back off and find security. If they approach you (and aren't hostile, like joking around/asking silly questions) either go somewhat along with it, or just ignore them/politely tell them no. Just ignoring tends to work. If they follow, confront them. You should pretty much always call con security for a drunk person, especially if they're being an asshat

If it's at a rave, try to lose them in the crowd. Just wordlessly move away, or tell them no and disappear.

>>7347693
STOP IT, ANON. YOU'RE HURTING MY FEELINGS NOW.

>>7347697
Good, there's nothing I love in my coffee more than neckbeard tears.

Pro tip:
PUA actually works. If you are a clueless guy just hit the gym and learn some PUA.

>>7347663
Different anon than the guy who originally offered dance tips, but:
(I'll assume here that you're male.)
>Have you noticed that women dance primarily by moving their hips, and the rest of their body follows suit? Do this with your shoulders instead.
>Glow sticks are easy to dance with, because they give your arms something to do. Glow stick dance move videos are readily available on Youtube.
>Fist-pumping while you jump up and down is faggy, and should never be done for extended periods of time. (Some people, like myself, fist pump when they get excited for a track that's coming on. This is okay in small doses.)

Lemme ask this way:

Ladies, that guy you met at a con that you really liked, what did he do to impress you? what made him worth hanging out with?

>>7347706
No it doesn't, you stupid fuck

>>7347731
He was funny, could hold a conversation, had mutual interests with me, and was giving out free backrubs. Also, cute.

Sauce on your picture? That is so adorable!

>>7347754
got no sauce, picked up on /co/ one day

>>7347676
>have confidence. Confidence is key. Not self-confidence, confidence that you can dance. Firm, precise movements and shit. Move like you know what you're doing, even if you don't.
>I recommend looking up some basics of popular rave dance styles. Jumpstyle and tektonic are pretty easy to get into (though tek is a "girly" dance for raves). Shuffling/breakdancing work too, but are a bit trickier
>again, copy people if you don't know what to do
>don't do one move for a while. a few cycles, then switch into another.
>if you know martial arts, forms/moves can usually be done rhythmically and look sweet
>move to the beat. flailing your arms confidently and to the beat still looks kinda cool.
>put your whole body into whatever you're doing. makes it look more lively.
>if you see a small group of people just aimlessly dancing, hop in there if you're confident. look one/all of them in the eye, and start doing something easy to copy (The Monkey from Johnny Bravo, pelvic thrusts, etc). Keep them going and hop out at random. Sometimes you can sneak off with a grill/guy in the circle.

One-on-One tips (for anyone else) (also assuming you're a dude)
>an easy way to initiate is just extend your arms to the grill, like a typical ballroom "would you like to dance?"
>pull her close into whatever position
>one basic thing to do: hold her hands, and move them up and down to the beat. mimic one another. playfully do something new, and mimic her as she does new things
>another is to pull her into a ballroom dancing position, and do a dip/shitty waltz or something.
>maintain eye contact. and closeness.
>keep a firm grip on her (not hard. firm)
>let her go when she wants to leave

Easy, kinda cool moves to work at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdLNGMiFWC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQkFLI_NwA8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9oDZKHY9TM (take with a grain of salt)

I can elaborate more. Getting a headache so this was kinda shit. MOST IMPORTANTLY: HAVE FUN

Protip: If you plan on using anything vaguely resembling the D.E.N.N.I.S. system, you should stop before you even try.

>>7347731
For me personally:
>Friendly, but still as polite and reserved as I expect a stranger to be (cons are not an excuse to throw out boundaries, physical or otherwise)
>Made good conversation before doing anything explicitly romantic
>Showed clear interest by inviting me to do things like walk the dealer's room or go to the rave together
I guess I would just recommend trying to find the balance between respecting boundaries while showing that you're interested. Just asking a girl if she wants to go to a panel with you sends a clear message without being too forthcoming, and it also gives you a chance to see if you really click before you do anything romantic/sexual.

>>7347757
Neat, thanks

>>7347768
Post limit fucked me, but I really recommend tektonic to start. There's a shitton of moves to learn, all on youtube. All it is is just simple arm/leg movements strung together. It'll help you learn dancing basics (rhythm, confidence), and is easier to string together. That tek video I sent is a sweet-looking and rather simple routine. You'll realize with tek that you can string basically anything together, so it's easier to just move into something new on-the-fly

>>7347759
D.E.N.N.I.S. system

>>7347759
Absolutely this. The M.A.C. system is so much more effective.

>>7347802
well when you've got hundred dollar bills coming out of your pockets and a magnum dong, who's gonna say no?

>>7347809
You fool, that's the Frank system

>>7347740
Yes it does, dumbass. Even if it just makes guys lose their fear of approaching women and eventually finding one out of a hundred.

>>7347817
Fuck, I'm so ashamed of myself. I gotta go back to school.

>>7347731
>take photo of cosplay group, hang out a bit while friend chats them up
>notice cute guy in group but too beta to talk to him while not in costume, figuring he wouldn't remember me later on
>add him on FB later since my friend already befriended the group
>friend pushes him to say hi to me
>he uses an in-character pickup line to break the ice
>my face

Ballsy but it worked. We did normal small-talk for a while until I got his number and skype; been talking almost daily for five months and he's going to spend five days with me during reading week soon.

He did a number of things right:
>flirty but not aggressively so
>took things slowly without making me think he ever lost interest
>gauged my comfort level before escalating flirting
>open communication to stay on the same page about how each person felt/what our intentions were
>good at conversation, never feels one-sided on either end
>has his own hobbies and interests (some in common, others different from mine, so we can introduce each other to new things)

I'm usually the pursuer when I like someone but this one took me by surprise.

>>7347759
I laughed. Oh man, that episode

Would /cgl/ have a conversation with me and maybe go to the con rave later tonight?

>>7347904
Considering the fact that you had to ask a group of strangers for reassurance, probably not.
There's nothing wrong with your looks, but that kind of lack of self-esteem isn't very attractive.
Also, that expression probably isn't doing you any favors as far as being photogenic goes, but that's beside the point.

If you want to get a gf or get laid try rape.

Also applies to out of con interactions.

>>7347913
>>7347921
thank you for your patronage

>>7347904
no

>>7347922
you're welcome.

>>7347904
sure, why the hell not

>>7347918
gr8 b8 m8

>go as characters that are as socially awkward as I am
>nobody can tell i'm not faking it

>>7347918
Ah, yes, a rape joke, the very height of humor. How far up your own ass did you have to go to pull out that gem?

>>7347930
because theres no cons or con raves on a monday night

>>7347935
Go home Tumblr

>>7347937
not with that attitude

>>7347948
>not okay with obnoxious jokes based in poking fun at other people's trauma
>must be tumblr

>>7347757
>keep a firm grip on her (not hard. firm)
>let her go when she wants to leave
I cannot stress enough how important these are. I have had guys try to literally grab me for a dance, or hold my arm (hard enough that I had to use some force to get free) when I try to move away.
That shit will put you on an instant avoid-for-rest-of-night list and is really invasive. Not that I think most seagulls would do that, but I really want to put emphasis on the "let her go" thing

>>7347948
>someone called me out on my assholishness, better cry "tumblr!"
Getting real sick of this shit. I miss when we didn't talk about tumblr because it's become some shitty excuse to write someone off entirely.

I think I might be gay and I would like to get gay with a guy at a con. How do I into men?

>>7347989
Call them cute and be honest. Most men will take that as a compliment. If they take it negatively, then you probably didn't want to sleep with them anyway.

>>7347989
>hey bro, wanna suck my dick?

Works every time

>>7347989
Just do what all straight guys do, but forget to say no homo.

If anything I want to meet a cute trap. Any advice on something like this?

>>7347989
First off, do you have an effective gaydar?
If not, you'd better cultivate one
Also, if possible, try to casually mention your sexuality and gauge his reaction. Of course, you have to be careful with this, because if you go up to some dude and shout that you're a homosexual at him, it probably won't take. The key is subtlety. Mention it in such a way that it's not immediately a proposition, just harmless information.

>>7347996
First off, do not assume all traps are into men. Secondly, do not assume they're all freaks and sex addicts that will accept your random offer of casual sex in a bathroom. I used to be friends with a trap, and this shit happened to him all the time. Just because a dude's wearing a dress doesn't mean you don't have to treat him like an actual human being when you try to woo him.

To just generally meet new people, unofficial fandom meet-ups or draw meets are great. It's already a casual friendly environment, with a conversation starter built in. A lot of photoshoots tend to devolve into general hanging afterwards, as well.

>>7347966
Not the asshole that made the rape joke. But I do find it odd that you can call people autist, retard, faggot, and more on this board, yet rape jokes are off the table. Besides it's 4chan and I completely expect that everywhere I go no matter what board. I just roll my eyes and scroll past it, especially if it's as unfunny and stupid as the one that was made. Seriously, there wasn't even a punchline, it was more like a statement.

Plus why are you rewarding bad behavior with attention?

>>7348049
Assholes will be assholes and overly sensitive people will be overly sensitive.

>>7347948
>anti rape
>tumblr
No, any sensible human being us against rape. Just go and slither back to R9k, you piece of shit

>>7347989
By talking to them like they're human beings?

>>7348049
Because rape is the worst thing that can happen to someone and most people have been raped or sexually assaulted at some point in their life. It's just not cool. And no one wants to be reminded of it
>inb4 go back to tumblr

>>7348095
Worst? I think being tortured is a lot worse. Being murdered is probably worse too, but then you know, acknowledging this might hamper some narratives.

>>7348088
A rape joke doesn't equal a rapist you dumbfuck. Read what I wrote here. >>7348049

And with that I will be ending these comments because I don't give a shit. Also, as I said before, you don't reward bad behavior with attention.

>>7348101
>obviously someone who has never been through it

>>7348106
Alright buddy, off to Guantanamo for you.

>>7348103
A rape joke is never okay. It's cheap and wrong to make a joke about something people go through every single day

>>7348106
It's possible to recover from rape. It's a bit harder to recover from death.

>>7348090
But how do you tell if they're gay?

>>7348110
Just talk to them. Get to know them, and the signs become pretty obvious. After a while, you can ask "what's your type" or something .

>>7348115
Can we not do this? Yet you're mentally scarred to live with some trauma every day, and then ontop of that have assholes make light and joke about it. No one gets over it

>>7348049
It's difficult to be autistic or retarded or any of the other things that have slurs attached, but rape is severe psychological trauma, which is not comparable to being in an oppressed group. It certainly hurts someone when you call them a slur or when they see one that applies to them used casually, but the pain from being reminded of sexual assault is very different and much sharper.
At the end of the day, and autistic person has been that way all their life and knows what to expect, even if what they expect is unfair to them, and moreover it's part of themselves that they were born with. Rape victims have had something taken from them, and it's very difficult to live normally and happily afterwards.

>>7348124
Maybe you need to check your privilege

>>7348122
I'd take scarred over dead

>>7348101
To most females, rape is regarded the most awful thing that can happen to you. This is propagated by our whole society, which constantly tells women to carry pepper spray and trust no man, lest her purity and happiness be taken from her forever. This is difficult for males to understand. Rape is not a reality for you unless it happens to you. You don't deal with the constant warnings and imagines threats from strangers on the street. You don't have to worry about if your clothes or behavior will end in your ruin. Your idea of rape is a caricature because no one has taught you what it means.

>>7348126
Jfc. Just go away

>>7348129
I don't know man, I just don't know. Is living in misery better than not living?
Anyway, I'm pretty sure someone who's been raped would not appreciate the way you're trying to make light of it. Maybe you're thinking that isn't what you're doing, but it is. You're still throwing out comparisons and "but"s to minimize it.

Well this thread has been derailed to hell and back.

>>7348129
You wouldn't, like anon above says, you probably think its a fucking joke, but it's not. And I knew men get raped too, but the statistics were women are beyond redeemable for how often it happens. And of course it's impossible to understand when it won't happen to you. That's why more men need to be taught how serious it is , so some can at least understand. Hopefully well be a world where it won't happen... At least it would be nice to have understanding people of both genders.

>>7348135
Saying a woman (or man) can't possibly recover from rape is stupid. People can recover from seeing their best freinds blown up by a land mine in front of them, being tortured for years in a POW camp, losing limbs, etc. Rape survivors aren't just broken forever. It pisses me off when people act like women can't possibly be strong enough to recover from something like Rape. Do you really think a non-violent rape (the majority of them) is more difficult to recover from than what a child went through in say, Auschwitz?

>>7348143
Plenty of men take it extremely seriously, and not to defend Anon, but 4chan is really not going to be a place where you're going to enact change. For one thing, most of the people that are being the assholes aren't going to be receptive, they're just assholes, ignore them and move on. Secondly, there's no accountability for anything anybody says, so trying to call them out isn't going to stop them, in fact, you giving them any attention is just going to encourage them to be assholes, if that's the kind of thing they get off to. It's a problem, but every medium has it's flaws, but you just gotta learn to choose your battles.

>>7348150
I'm not saying you can't recover, but a lot of people don't. They other issue is that rape victims often lack a wide base of support. They're often shamed and shushed by their society and even their family. The main reason many rape victims end up so traumatized is simply because no one gives them the support they need afterwards.
It's like the difference between Vietnam vets and those of WWII. WWII vets were heroes, and not only that, but a lot more men fought in the war, so there was a lot of patience and help given to those who were recovering from it. Vietnam vets were spit on in the streets because the war was so wildly unpopular, and now they're the proverbial homeless men. Do you see the difference?

>>7348150
Ignore obvious troll

>>7348154
You're right. This isn't the place. This thread is beyond derailed anyway. We should just stop replying to the troll stirring the shit.

>>7348165
okay, I see your point. I was more directing that at people who in general treat rape as an untreatable problem that can never be overcome.
>>7348172
How was that trolling exactly?

How do I social?

>>7348113
Every kind of joke is okay, go cry with your feminazi friends and leave 4chan alone if you cant handle it.

>>7348222
> Every kind of joke is okay
If this is how you socialize, I can understand why you need help now.

If there's one thing this thread made me realize, it's that I propably never wanna date a grill from /cgl/. How can you be so overly sensitive, when you are on 4chan?

Just chill out and take it easy. It's really not so bad if somebody says something that you don't like or behaves against your ideals.

>being in a con is not an excuse to act with less strict social norms
And what's with this nonsense? Of cource it is. People go to con to have fun and they are the very places on earth very socially awkard guys with no friends can feel save and accepted. You don't like them? Well then bad for you, you are in a wrong place.

>in middle school, started to get into anime, manga, WH40k, etc.
>had that one friend who treated real life like his favorite animu
>didn't want to be that, NOPE.jpg
>he moves away and I give him my beatup copy of the first issue of shonen jump which seals the rabbit hole
>fast forward, college
>am a boring person because lack of interests in popular forms of entertainment, see starting new interests as a waste of time
>meet that old friend
>mfw he's more socially well-adjusted than me because he has friends with common interests
>mfw i don't connect much with people
I'm testing the waters with anime again but it feels a bit forced trying to get into it now. I know there's great stuff out there and I love seeing people truly enjoy something enough to cosplay it but I don't recognize any of the characters and thus can't talk to people at conventions.

>>7348262
You can do it. Just gotta keep putting yourself out there.

As far as con social skills go, it's pretty easy. My gf cosplays, is petite and is Asian, so as you can imagine gets loads of pics. She really doesn't get too creeped out unless a dude is either smelly or like attempts to grope her. I myself have had girls grab my arms and chest (one drunk chick even bit my nipple that was exposed), and that type of stuff us autistic as fuck. It makes me cringe when a socially awkward weaboo girl tries to hit on me, because it reminds me how bad some fans of my favorite hobby are. I can only imagine how bad it is for my gf and other cosplayers. If you see a cute cosplayer, just ask for a pic if you want, don't try to hook up with her, unless she shows interest in you or something.
>>7348262
I have a similar problem, though I've been into anime for a while. My issue is I tend to be very normalfaggy (I play college football, go to bars, etc, etc). but also love anime. I was able to luckily find some /a/ bros on my campus through various means, and some pretty cool online /a/fit/ bros through a fitness site. It's possible, you just have to search for the non-weeb types. /cgl/ has plenty. Hell, every board does. Into guns? /k/ has lots of /a/bros. Into sports? /sp/ has tons to, so does /fit/. The users on the four boards I mentioned tend to be pretty social, so if you are interested in any of those things, go lurk on said board.

>>7344981
Autist here. I did the same thing (not talking much after I found out I was autistic because I didn't want to say anything stupid) and I feel like it really just comes down to practice if you want to talk more. Something that really helped me was working a cashier job at a grocery store for a while since I was forced to talk to people all day. The first few months were pretty awful but it got better gradually. Although being a cashier sucks, it is worth doing it for a while.

>>7348290
I know that feel.
I became a lot more self conscious about what I said after I was diagnosed with autism.

How do I use conventions to find a cute bf if I'm not that into all this anime and comics stuff?

Yeah, I'm not that good looking. That's why I'm asking and trying to find a way

>>7347570
>Dance like a junglist on speed and hit everyone around you.
but jungle music is my favourite and i can't have a good night unless i'm amphed up

:'((

>>7347676
take ur shirt off, grind ur teeth, roll ur eyes up, clench ur fists and just sorta pump them around in front of you. every now and again u can hug one of ur bois or a stranger and give them a compliment. after you've done that for a while you could try cutting some shapes with your hands. if there is a moment of real intensity you can extend your index and middle finger to make ur hands look like guns and wave them about above your head while shouting some stuff. if ur at a drum & bass set u can sometimes give the dj a "sign" and put one index finger up in the air while grinning at the dj and mc. while doing all this you want to sorta be shuffling your feet around and getting some general motion throughout your body

>>7348544
Option 1: Don't. That's really not what cons are for.

Option 2: Find a guy that's only at the con to score.

Alternatively: instead of spending money on a badge and a hotel, go to a bar or the local watering hole or something,

>>7348556
>Option 1: Don't. That's really not what cons are for.
I'm sure plenty of guys would be happy with that.

>Option 2: Find a guy that's only at the con to score.
I don't want a sleazy guy who just wants casual sex.

I don't wanna look for a boyfriend on a bar.

>>7348559
>I'm sure plenty of guys would be hay with that.
Yes! You are correct.

All I'm saying is that if you're going to a place with the sole intent of trying to pick somebody up, it's going to be fairly obvious, it doesn't matter what the genders are. Cons cost a lot of money and the overwhelming majority are there because they're interested in the subject matter. If you aren't interested, don't waste your time and money. If you really want to pick up some guy at a con, then go to a con that actually interests you.

>>7348564
It's my sole intent, I have a casual interest on these things. I just don't consider myself a nerd.

>>7348564
It's not my sole intent, I have a casual interest on these things. I just don't consider myself a nerd.

>>7348569
Then just approach it how you would in any other context, the rules of engagement don't change because you're at a con. If you're not a sleaze about it you should be fine. Respect boundaries and don't try to force interest if there is none

>>7348572
Do I think I should buy a cosplay? Which ones are popular?

>>7348574
Do you like to cosplay? Do you have a favorite character?

If you do, then cosplay your favorite character.

Also, if you're going to a con on a "casual interest" then you're a nerd, there's nothing wrong with it. That's like saying, no homo. You can say it all you want, but we know what's up.

>>7348577
I like the idea of cosplaying, but I don't have a favorite character or anything. I wanna find out what's popular nowadays.

>>7348261
>How can you be so overly sensitive, when you are on 4chan?
because *gasp* we're human.
there's faces behind each and every post.

>>7348574
no.

>>7348581
Homestuck is popular right now, but also very infamous and you probably don't want to be associated with that crowd if you don't like the subject matter. Honestly, you could pick probably any of the currently running animes right now and you might get recognized if your character is distinctive enough. I don't see why you would want to invest so much time and money into something you are so dispassionate about.

>>7348582
Can we not? Just let it be and don't derail the thread.

>>7348589
I don't have money problems, anon. Don't worry about that. My friends spend much more money on clubs and places like that.

I always see people posting that Yuno girl with pink hair, do you think that's a good cosplay for someone who never cosplayed?

>>7348595
uh.... I have no clue who that is. I guess if you have enough money, the sky is the limit, since you can commission people to do things that are out of your skill range. This is sorta against the spirit of cosplay, but I guess it doesn't really matter if you wanna do it, it's nobody's business to tell you no.

>>7348599

>>7344926
>>"Can I have your number?"
I don't have to deal with this because I always go to Cons outside of my country aw yeah.

>>7348604
Sure that doens't look terribly difficult with some basic sewing skills.

>>7348607
Meh I don't sew. I might just get it online.

>>7348612
Are planning on going to a con alone?

>>7348650
I can take a couple friends, but they might get bored pretty easily since it's not their thing.

>>7344555
Post in the thread or event of the con you are going to in cosplay asking for a photo meetup of other series characters at the con. Make friends. See what happens from there.

>>7345081
>Lolitas: Hey, I really like your oufit, where did you get X?
Possibly not a good idea, I don't like this at all from a stranger. And I'm not young or shy.

>>7346334
I'd be a little worried about that.

>>7348113
So no one should be making jokes about murder, theft, or any other crime? Hell, we shouldn't even make jokes about normal everyday pet peeves cause people go through it everyday right?

>>7348559
I hope you're ok with dating virgin because you gonna find plenty of them on anime cons.

>>7348820
I caught a STD from a manwhore, you can bet I'm more than happy with virgins.

>Making friends with Autistic people who dress up as cartoon characters for a hobby

>>7348559
>I'm sure plenty of guys would be happy with that.

They would, I know I would. It's incredibly frustrating being the sex that always has to initiate anything like that. If a girl started anything with me I would be on cloud nine, the fear of rejection even from just starting a conversation and not just trying to show romantic interest keeps me at bay. The only thing girls really have to do is just say yes or no and it makes me incredibly envious to say the least.

>>7348834
>Making friends with Autistic people who dress up as cartoon characters for a hobby and complain about being surrounded by virgins.

ya'll bitches be nitpicking people like they're you're property (something that needs to be removed from your outfit)

>>7345406
>we go to my hotel get tipsy, talk, usually fuck.
Just wondering, if I encounter a qt cosplaying girl or guy at the couple of cons I'm going to, I might want to date them and soon after have sex.
How many times of doing this would it take me to be considered a slut?

>>7349390
Just going to a con for sex makes you a slut, having sex with a person you're dating that you met from a con doesn't.

>>7344926
that's pretty cute in itself, but do girls not like it if you ask for their number or is it just her? What do I do If want to date you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLDbBpvns78

i think chloe's video is pretty good for this topic plus i'm in love with her so yeah

>>7346962
PUA teaches you social competence and how to keep a conversation going naturally.

If you don't want to become a robot you won't.

>>7347562
This is the basic with what I start people off with PUA:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=59150

Do you think it's sleazy or trying to trick women?

>>7349807
That writing style is awful, but for the most part it's just saying be a decent human being and improve yourself. I don't really agree with it 100% but I guess it's a start for those who are completely socially awkward.

>>7347423
That's what PU is basically about. It tricks nerds in with promising them a life of pimping and getting back at all those bitches with your sekkrit tricks and in the end you come out with healthy self confidence and being able to talk to girls like a normal person.

The PU is not your enemy. The fedora is. He expects pussy without effort and calls you a bitch when you do not deliver.

People tell me I'm really cute all the time and sometimes I'll be talking to someone at a con or even in real life and once they go away, whatever friend or friends I'm with will tell me "Oh they were flirting with you!" or "They seemed interested in you and were trying to flirt!" But I'm so autistic that I actually don't know what flirting looks like or how to know if someone is flirting with me or just talking to me. I don't even know how to flirt which surprises most people.
What is flirting and how do I know someone is flirting with me?

>>7345182

how2pickup /cgl/qts.

Sorry

>>7344382
>rsd

>>7348721
why?

>>7350202
Literally got neg hits wrong.