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Share what makes you insecure in lolita, whether it's your body, style, people's opinions, etc. Please be honest, kind, and supportive!

>> No.8008741

I'm really chubby and I can't really wash my back. Because of that, it gets a lot of zits. I'm always scared that they'll pop and stain the fabric when I'm wearing lolita.

>> No.8008744

Probably my skin. I look so blotchy without foundation, ugh. Why can't i just be kawaii god damn

>> No.8008749

Arm hair and upper lip hair... I feel bad about shaving the upper lip hair and I'm too scared to wear short sleeved OPs or blouses. I feel like I can never be truly a beautiful lolita like everyone else even if I look good to other people.

>> No.8008753

Sweat. I can hardly ever wear lolita because I'm so paranoid about it.

>> No.8008755
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>>8008753
This, I sweat terribly too. After a meet I always run straight home to hand was them. I'm so worried it'll stain.

Also pic related is my face

>> No.8008757

>>8008741
Aww :c Maybe there are other ways you can deal with the zits? Or you can wear something between your back and the lolita stuff?

>> No.8008762

>>8008744
Don't worry, lots of people have that problem and are just very good at hiding it. I'm sure that you're kawaii even without perfect skin, and there are many ways you can deal with that anyways.

>> No.8008763

>>8008735
My skin sucks. I don't have acne but I do have acne scars. I've been trying to fade them for a year but no luck so far. I trick everyone into thinking I have nice uguu skin with good foundation, but I would be really embarrassed if my lolita friends were to see me without makeup.

>> No.8008770

>>8008735
My big nose. Hard to be cute with a big ass nose. Contouring just doesn't work. It's tiem 2 plastic surgery. Anyone else have a big nose they can't fix?

>> No.8008775

Short sleeves and sheer tights because
<spoiler> I don't shave </spoiler>

Also being tall

>> No.8008777 [DELETED] 

>>8008770
Yes ;A; It's been bothering me so much I think I'm too young to get a nose job without my mom's permission, which I'll never get. But trust me, people can still think you're adorable even with a big nose. Only go with plastic surgery if you're 5000000% sure it's what you want.

>> No.8008779
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I don't have thin legs. They aren't large by any means...probably dead average. I with I had small thin delicate legs but instead I can sometimes look like one of those classic italian statues.

>> No.8008780

>>8008777
>admitting being under age

>> No.8008781

>>8008770
>>8008777
I'm willing to bet your noses aren't as big as you might think. It's easy to think your nose is big when you're bombarded with kawaii asian girls/shooped dolly girls with little button noses. But if getting surgery is the only thing that will make you totally comfortable with your face, that's okay, too. I'm sure you're both really lovely all the same.

>> No.8008782

>>8008775
Don't feel bad about not shaving! You should never feel like you have to do stuff like that, even if you wear lolita. I wish I didn't feel the need to shave!
And being tall is fine! I'm quite short and a bit jealous of taller girls because I think lolita skirts look cuter when they're a bit shorter.

>> No.8008784

>>8008779
super stick legs look weird as fuck sticking out of a big petti. shapely/average longish legs look the nicest in my opinion.

>> No.8008786

>>8008779
Are you me? At least the fashion hides my thighs. Even when I weighed 10 lbs less, my legs have always been big from dance/aerobics. I just want slim legs, dammit.

>> No.8008790

>>8008741
Have you not heard of luffas on sticks or handled back scrubbers? They're like 3 bucks at walmart.

>> No.8008796

Body hair and thighs, at least Lolita covers a lot

>> No.8008799

>>8008786
I am a rock climber so I have pretty intense thighs. I wish I was just a little taller it would even it out so much ('m 5ft half inch..)

>> No.8008801

I don't think I am mature/worldly enough to wear lolita. If I wear the fashion I cant bring myself to ask people for help/directions as I automatically feel like I appear to be "age playing" by pretending to be a naive little kid or something. I am not pretending, I just am naive. So I don't like to wear it unless I am with my comm.
Also I am afraid to wear it because I don't want to wreck my expensive clothing...

>> No.8008803

>>8008801
If you say stuff like "I am just naive" it does seem like one of those people that tries to seem super innocent, just saying

>> No.8008812

I've gained a little weight and I don't feel comfortable in my clothes right now. I only need to lose like 10 pounds and I'm working on it, but ugh, I just want to be thinner again.

>> No.8008815

>>8008753
>>8008755
I used to sweat a ridiculous amount too.

You guys need to try Perspirex, it's one of those night time antiperspirants and it completely stops you sweating for 3-5 days.

Even if you sweat the normal amount, I'd still recommend it, cause it's better for your underarms than daily antiperspirant.

Plus they've got a hand and foot antiperspirant cream as well. I've never tried it, but apparently it works.

>> No.8008821

I love stuff like rectangle headdresses so much... it's not like I love lacemonsters and other ita stuff, but I just think those are beautiful but I'm scared to wear them around other lolitas.

>> No.8008823

I have giant tree trunk legs that are massively out of proportion to my upper body. Even at my thinnest, my legs from ankle to thigh are massive (I had a 24 inch waist and 39 inch hip). I can't ever go without wearing tights for that reason. It sucks.

No socks

>> No.8008828

>>8008815
Doesn't that shit stain?

>> No.8008831

I have sorta hairy arms and I hate my complexion, make up helps me so much.

>> No.8008833

I'm terrified of gaining weight and being labeled as a 'fatty chan'. Gaining weight is my worst fear, especially after losing my grandmother last March

>> No.8008838

>>8008741
That's so lazy and disgusting. Glad to know you're there fat stereotype.

>> No.8008844

>>8008838
I'm really thin, and used to have this problem as well. I would wash it, but I would sweat a lot from sports.

>> No.8008846

My comm is really close knit and I'm new. They're all perfectly nice to me but I imagine them talking about me at their smaller meets. Sometimes I'm too shy to say much but to compliment people, and I feel like some of the girls might think I'm a waste of space at their table.

>> No.8008848

>>8008844
The issue here is not washing.

>> No.8008853

>>8008846
I've been there, I just joined a comm a few months ago, and due to living so far away, I have only been able to attend one lolita meet up. I had to have someone take me around to introduce me because I was too shy to do it myself.

>> No.8008858
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All I've wore for most of my life (Unless it was for a formal event or something) are t-shirts and jeans. I've never tried to branch out with fashion. I've never really tried to be all that girly. Now that I want to get into j-fashion, it's become really hard for me because I can't actually wear or coordinate anything without feeling major anxiety.

>god dammit your fit is way off. you should have known better than to try to coordinate something when it's clear that you're inexperienced.
>you can't become experienced without actually wearing anything though, so i hope that going out looking like pixyteri's long-lost imouto goes well for you for the next few years!
>on the contrary, what if your outfit is entirely on point and you're just making it look bad because you're being so awkward? nice work making a coord that looks entirely fine look like a thrift store mannequin all on account of your insecurities, loser.
>walking in heels seemed way easier around your house than they do outside. now you're awkwardly trotting after your friends because you can't keep up with them without putting the future of your face in jeopardy. they don't even think your little boots are cute because they're too busy giggling at the way you walk. congratulations on sealing yourself to an eternal fate of flats and kitten heels.

>see? your friend who wears cute things all the time said that you looked cute! that means that at the very least you don't look like rainbow brite doing a walk of shame!
>but she's a nice girl and she might be lying to you just to increase your confidence and encourage you to become more experienced with fashion, and now her attempts are all for not because you've just considered this possibility
>is that look she's giving you an awkward one? you're completely correct. she thinks you look awful.
>at least in the t-shirt and jeans she wasn't embarrassed to be seen with you.
>the best part is that you might just be imagining this, she might be telling the truth.

>> No.8008865

I have a really fucking big head. Like, my forehead is huge, and it's not like the "oh my forehead's so big wahhh!" thing everybody seems to go through. My forehead is actually longer than my face. I already look stupid in normalfag clothes, and I look even stupider in big headbows and headbands.

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>>8008858
>mfw this is my life

>> No.8008877

When lolitas or just regular females see me dressed up in lolita, they probably automatically think I'm a homosexual. I wonder if they think I'm gay. I'm attracted to females.

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>>8008868

>tfw you'll never have a lolita onee-san to help you with sorting out your insecurities and to give you calm-yet-honest critique

It hurts to live.

>> No.8008917

I'm super paranoid about knocking shit off tables and shelves as I walk around. You'd think I'd be used to having such a large circumference by now, but no, I have smashed so many fucking glasses in my own house with my huge, frilly ass.

>> No.8008930

Wigs look awful on me, or a least I think they do. I don't have a big chin, but my face is long, and I just think I look ridiculous in them.

>> No.8008943

I am a gothic lolita since I started to wear it (5 years ago)
I always say I don't like sweet lolita (even if I respect who wears it)
...
But I really don't hate it

I want to try... but I feel ashamed how I look in that style

I want, but I can't

>> No.8008949

>>8008853
>>8008846
Unless you actually do something to piss people off, we don't talk about you at small meets. Try to avoid any controversial discussions or drama until you get more into the "in" crowd. So long as you are friendly and don't piss anyone off, even if people do talk about you, it will be in a nice way.

>> No.8008969

I am worried other Lolita's would judge me, all I see are OTT coordinates online and I dress plain. Where I live is cold so I wear turtlenecks under my jsks with a silk vest as a base with thick tights, really plain shoes/bags. I found a style in good leather that I thought was neutral enough to fit my wardrobe and basically bought every colour, so boring. I don't like how shoddy lolita shoes and bags are I wish there was a brand that made them from leather and had leather insoles, I sweat in those little synthetic shoes. My coats/jackets/capes and jsks are really nice quality though.

>> No.8008978

>>8008749
Same here! I am super hairy but don't want to shave my face or arms either. I swear that I am growing a beard and it depresses me a bit. I just wear lolita anyway and since I don't meet other lolitas, I figure that regular people don't mind as much and are too distracted at looking at my dress than my hairy arms.

>> No.8008982

>>8008763
Anon what foundation do you use? I have very bad acne scars and none of the foundations and concealers I have used gives me a flawless face.

>> No.8008996

That I'm getting older and with that my face ages too. I don't want to look like a 40 yr old wearing classic.

>> No.8009045
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8009045

I feel like my interests are too different from the lolitas in my local comm. I like geeky stuff like anime and games too, but very, very casually, to the point where I can't really talk much about those topics. I feel like kind of an outsider (which is funny because liking that stuff made me feel like an outsider when I was in high school).
>tfw I want to talk about lolita and fashion and maybe even TV/sports/local happenings/movies/music at meets not feel left out because i don't watch attack on swimming anime or whatever the kids are into these days

>> No.8009049

>>8008741
They make those Korean bath mitts in towel form with little handles to wash and exfoliate your back

>> No.8009050

>>8008982
Tarte + Tarte concealer. I used to use Hourglass but it's $60/bottle. Both are really great, honestly, especially when paired with a "poreless" primer.

>> No.8009067

>>8008969
You're not alone anon, I wear lolita almost daily and turtlenecks are a staple for me as well. Just keep rocking your style, I'm sure it's lovely!

>> No.8009100

I'm insecure about my looks. I dress well and I work really hard to make my coords look nice, but I always feel like my average looks spoil it all.

I'm short with stubby legs and I have small asian eyes. Even with makeup, lenses, and false lashes, my eyes will never look kawaii doll-like. I will never look slender like chokelate or super elegant like fannie rosie. It feels bad knowing that I'll never look as nice as them no matter how perfect my coord is.

I'm not even fat or particularly ugly. Just average. I work out daily and eat healthy, but I'll never be pretty and it just sucks.

>> No.8009107

I have recently gained quite a bit of weight and I hate it! None of my dresses fit the same anymore and I'm feeling like I should just stop wearing Lolita until I've lost the weight again. :/ So terrified of the other girls in my comm laughing at me etc.

Also, knocking things over with my pettis. I should be used to it by now. But no. I am so clumsy.

Finally: I will never be good enough!!!

>> No.8009265

>>8008770

I have exactly this problem. I've just been shopping all my selfies and saving for surgery. We'll get there one day, anon.

>> No.8009275

>>8008749
I leave my arms hairy, it's a bit noticeable at close up in rl but in pictures you would never notice i have hairy arms lol. Do your arms have hairs visible also on pictures?
>>8008877
Are you a brolita?

>> No.8009285

I can fit into some angelic pretty dresses with centimeters to spare but i'm not sure if that would still be considered stretching them out and im afraid i just wont look good in them. I wish I could just try it on to see but I'm sure that if I went into any of the stores they would be noticeably nervous about me trying it on. I just don't know...

>> No.8009286
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I have awful sunken eyes. People always say I look entirely different and old when I take my glasses off. I'd like to go without wearing glasses in lolita, but I'm too ashamed of how I look.

>> No.8009288

I pretty much never wear dresses. On Halloween I wore a very simple, normalfag black dress as part of my costume and one of my friends said he almost didn't recognize me in it, if it weren't for that I was still wearing my heavy worn-out work boots.

I'm very used to being a tomboy and having it be a point that people think of me as such, and that the adventurous and outdoorsy type of guys I like to go for think of me better because I won't be afraid of getting spiders in my hair or cuts on my legs or muck all over my entire body.

So, I'm very guilty about becoming interested in lolita. It's something that I can talk about all day with my best friend who I somehow don't otherwise share many hobbies or interests with despite being so close, but it's still very much a guilty pleasure and when I'm finished with buying items for my first coord (I have the dress, hat, and petti!) I probably won't wear it at all except when hanging out with her.

>> No.8009290

>>8009275
>Are you a brolita?

Yes

>> No.8009312

I can't do anything but the very basic make up. I have very pale skin and make up stands out so much that the tiniest bit shows a ton but because my eye shape it rubs off in just an hour or two.
>mfw I am a gothic lolita but can't wear black eyeliner or eye shadow.

I am chubby, super short, and have huge boobs. I would fit into any brand dress I wanted if my boobs were smaller. I fit into skirts with no issue and some JSKs but I am a 32 F/DDD. I have been slowly losing weight but my bust hasn't change at all and now losing weight everywhere else to makes them stand out more and I am in constant worry that I mite have boobloaf.

>> No.8009318

>>8009265
>I've just been shopping all my selfies and saving for surgery

I-I do this too. Does it ever make you feel bad, anon? I always feel terrible about the shooping and end up deleteing all of my selfies instead.

>> No.8009322

>>8008877
>When lolitas or just regular females see me dressed up in lolita, they probably automatically think I'm a homosexual. I wonder if they think I'm gay. I'm attracted to females.
Our Brolita has a girlfriend and is pretty straight too. You're not alone. Also most Lolitas probably won't give two fucks about your sexuality as long as you're not a creep. Many Lolitas I know are pretty open minded and bi or gay themselves so they probably won't judge you for whatever sexuality you have or just assume you're gay/straight unless there's proove.

>> No.8009324

My face just really doesn't suit the sweeter style of lolita that I prefer. Even if I feel like I look okay in person, I photograph like absolute crap. Also I've never thought of myself to have big legs, but whenever I wear shorter socks I feel like my calves look humongous!

>> No.8009330

>>8008770
I do, but it isn't too big.
What's sad is that both of my parents and all my grandparents have differently shaped noses from mine so it is definitely not genetic, and I had a nice nose as a child.

Everything changed when I broke my nose in a fall as a child, it grew back crooked and bent to one side with a hump in the middle. Now I look like an Owen Wilson-Shlomo Shekelberg lovechild

>> No.8009331

>>8009312
>I can't do anything but the very basic make up. I have very pale skin and make up stands out so much that the tiniest bit shows a ton but because my eye shape it rubs off in just an hour or two.
You might want to invest into a good primer. Maybe visit the make up thread to get some help or actually go to a store and ask for advice.

>> No.8009413

>>8008823
damn girl do u got a fat ass to match

>> No.8009481

>>8008812
Me too! I recently moved and started a new job, and with my lifestyle and daily schedule changes I've gained about 10 pounds. It may not seem like much in writing, but I can FEEL it and it feels like this massive lump of fat on my body. I hate it. Working on joining a gym so I can work that shit off.

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>>8008969
I know your feels, anon I hate that people wearing classic, plain, or toned down lolita gets lumped into "ita" by all the newblets on here. A plain coordinate isn't ita, it's just not OTT.

>> No.8009522

>>8009286
Off topic, but what anime is this from? It's super familiar...

>> No.8009531

>>8009324
Are you me?
>look fine in the mirror/window reflections/on film etc.
>face the size of the moon in photos
also my legs look fine and thin from the front, but from the side they are so flabby and large and otks look so incredibly stretched that I can't bring myself to wear them.

>> No.8009540

>>8009506
Maybe if your plain coords look like crap but if they're nice it shouldnt' be an issue

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>>8008943
Interesting... Do go on.

>> No.8009622

>>8009540
Anon, if you've ever seen half the shit posted in the ita threads on here, you know that's not even remotely true at all. Some tards on here think that if a girls is missing 5+ bows on their head and toned down shoes an outfit somehow an "ita" coordinate. It's never not been an issue on here, or elsewhere. It's almost as bad as the asspats horrific coordinates get on COF.

>> No.8009631

>>8008779
Same here anon! My pain is that I'm getting into ouji and I recently bought an Aatp piece that requires me to slim my thighs. But HOW. Back when I actually exercised, my legs were even thicker

>> No.8009635

>>8009050
I'll go to Sephora for some samples or to try it out. I never even thought to use a primer so thanks for that tip.

>> No.8009664

I can't wear makeup due to my face breaking out in hives and my eyes burning from the liner...every brand I have tried does this. I'm always edging out of photos because of this.

>> No.8009677

I hate my nose and I feel I look like a man, I don't know if it is just my nose or the rest of my face that makes me feel that way. I just don't feel feminine enough for lolita, I have to hide my face in photos because I know I will be ripped apart for not being kawaii enough.

>> No.8009688

My biggest insecurity is that I'm absolute shit at looking good in photos. I'm really not that ugly IRL but I'm very unphotogenic.

>> No.8009731

>>8009688
I'm the same. people always say how pretty i am and talk about me as if i'm super hot, and i get hit on a fuck ton, but i can never believe it because in photos i look like lumpy soup.

>> No.8009743

>>8009688
Same, I always get really unflattering shadows.

I also can smile without looking awkward 9/10 times

>> No.8009787

I'm very insecure about my face. While I'm not fat or anything I just feel like my face is dumb looking. Even though I am a model I can't help but criticize all of my facial features like how I wish my nose was smaller and I wish my eyes were not so high on my head. I also wish my teeth were more brilliant. My dresses are the episode of perfection to me and sometimes I feel bad wearing them because of my own morphed view of myself.

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>>8009688
Same here. I can look good in mirror selfies where I can control the lighting, angle and expression but in candid meet up photos I look really bad. People have actually accused me of editing my selfies even though I don't edit them at all, not even the lighting.
My nose and brow only look good at certain angles and when I smile 'genuinely' my upper lip disappears and my face splits in two. My eyes also make me look stoned unless I open them wide, and even that is a difficult judgement call because I don't want to be the crazy-eyed one in every picture. As long as I keep on my stonefaced Misako smile I can look okay, but cameras held by other people make me so nervous that I look like shit every time.

>> No.8009825

I have eyes that look tired now matter what. My eye doctor says the only way to fix it is using surgery. It is due to naturally occurring fat deposit under the eyes that happen to be larger in some people. I can hide it with make up, but is very hard and lasts very few.
I have had plastic surgery for my nose before and even if it got slightly better, I'm prone to want more and more, so I'm scared of going for more surgeries.

>> No.8009850

>>8008821
No one cares, plenty of people wear them and they were considered back in earlier this year. You sound like a massive noob.

>> No.8009874

>>8008735
I'm somewhere between five foot one and five foot three and my weight fluctuates between one fifty and one sixty, I'm a size twelve, sometimes a size fourteen on particularly "fat weeks." I know how to dress myself though and always make sure to do an extra careful job on my coords, I don't post pictures of myself anywhere on the internet for critique however cause whenever I look at photos of myself I feel like barfing, that's how fat I look which is strange cause I just look chubby when I'm looking at myself in the mirror.

Now I'm afraid that despite my best efforts my comm really does see me as a ham-planet, I thought perhaps that if I worked really hard I could at least be one of the cute more chubby then fat "fatties" I find myself tempted to post myself in coords online but always stop because I know that I look grossly obese in photos, however I don't in the mirror and now I'm not sure which image is distorted my mirror image or photographs... All the local lolis in my comm always say I look great but I'm never quite sure if they're being honest since they know me and all... I'd feel a lot better getting other anon's opinions instead since those I know are always honest but that means getting opinions on a photograph rather then in-person and I'm honestly not sure which one is the more accurate depiction of my body... :/ HALP

>> No.8009900

>>8009874
Are you me anon?

>> No.8009910

>having bpd
>hating myself to the guts
>can't wear short sleeves because of selfharm and fat lumps
>hate my body hair, so shaving all of, including head and eyebrows
>I am disgusted by my fat and ugly body
>tried workout but get pain in the bones
>am I doomed to be fat forever, should I get back in eating disorder?

Why am I even wearing this wonderful and holy fashion?!

>> No.8009919

>>8009910
>hate my body hair, so shaving all of, including head and eyebrows
>I am disgusted by my fat and ugly body
>am I doomed to be fat forever, should I get back in eating disorder?
>Why am I even wearing this wonderful and holy fashion?!

Anon, you sound like you need professional help. I don't mean this in a malicious way, but this seriously doesn't sound healthy and you should probably talk to someone professional about these issues. You probably don't need to lose weight but rather work on your mental health and body image.

>> No.8009922

I'm about 23 on the bmi and I already have a gaunt face, not round and doll like and I'm 19 with laugh lines. I don't want to lose more weight in case of ruining myself more, but my Lolita coords looks shittier with my body, especially my legs.

>> No.8009924

>>8009910
Chill man, it's okay. Live life, travel a little.

>> No.8009933

>>8009874
>I'd feel a lot better getting other anon's opinions instead since those I know are always honest but that means getting opinions on a photograph rather then in-person and I'm honestly not sure which one is the more accurate depiction of my body... :/ HALP
Posting your picture here might not be the best idea, anon. There are some honest people around here but chances that it'd be 50% troll opinions might be pretty high. Looking for validation and opinions on a site like 4chan is like posting to CoF, just on the other extreme on the spectrum.

If you have such problems with your photographes it's probably due to bad posture, lightning and angles. Try to work out which poses, angles and stuff works best to display yourself nicely in photos, it can make a huge difference.

>Now I'm afraid that despite my best efforts my comm really does see me as a ham-planet
>All the local lolis in my comm always say I look great but I'm never quite sure if they're being honest since they know me and all...
You're not that fat anon, just chubby. If you think this qualifies as hamplanet go look at comms with the 250+pounds girls.
And if you really put effort into your coords and looks than people irl usually don't give a fuck about a few pounds more on your body, and probably are serious when complimenting you; at least from my experience people who are polite either give compliments or say nothing at all.

>> No.8009936

I hate my man face and my stocky body. I'm not fat but I have a large rib cage and short stocky muscular legs. I'll never look like a tiny dainty lolita, I feel like I was cursed. Sometimes I wonder if I got into the wrong fashion.

>> No.8009937

>>8009922
>I'm about 23 on the bmi and I already have a gaunt face, not round and doll like and I'm 19 with laugh lines. I don't want to lose more weight in case of ruining myself more, but my Lolita coords looks shittier with my body, especially my legs.
Not every loli has a round dolly face. If you don't want to lose the weight, don't. But you probably won't ruin your body that much, it's not lie you're 100 pounds overweight and borderline morbidly obese.
Don't worry about your face so much. If you don' like the laugh lines get some fillers and deal with it.

>> No.8009945

I'm a tom-boy with androgynous facial features and is trying very hard to look cute/elegant (depending on the style). I don't change my voice to make it sound sweeter/dainty at meets so I wonder if some Lolitas at meets are disappointed by my low tone voice?

>> No.8009952

My makeup abilities are not as good as It thought. Simple black liquid eyeliner, dark brown eyes shadow and think false eyelashes have been my golden standard until now. I started to look more critically to my own photos and I look undressed, tired. I don't know what to do. Suggestions?
I'm also considering selling my whole wardrobe to renew it.

>> No.8009956

>>8009919
I'm having therapy but only for a year now. Some problems got better (anxiety and so on) but I can't get over my selfhate. It's a long road and hard es hell.


And I AM fat: 1, 61m height, 77kg, 96cm bust, 72cm waist and 101cm hip. No one can fool me, at least I am not that desilusional!

Lolita hides a lot of flaws but I wish I could do this pretty clothes more justice. I have the feeling I ruin the fashion for others but I don't want to stop, since it is the only thing where I feel some beauty.

>> No.8009957

>>8008741
Loofah on a stick, girl. I nightsweat due to a medication and if I don't liberally scrub my back I get backne like woah

>> No.8009958

>>8009937
>you're 100 pounds overweight
What. Did she mention her height and weight somewhere? At 23 bmi I find it hard to believe she could possibly be 100 pounds overweight.

>> No.8009962

I haven't found a lolita style that works with my body yet. I look fucking awesome in normalfag clothing, but Lolita makes me look fat when I'm not.

>> No.8009965

>>8009958
>it's not like you're 100 pounds overweight
There was a typo but reading comprehension, anon.

>> No.8009967

>>8009958
She typo'd. "Not LIKE you're 100lb overweight"

>> No.8009971

>>8009958
Oops, retarded typo. Sorry.

>> No.8009974

>>8009965
>>8009967
>>8009971
Well that makes sense now. I thought it was supposed to say "it's no lie"

>> No.8009975

>>8009956
>And I AM fat: 1, 61m height, 77kg, 96cm bust, 72cm waist and 101cm hip. No one can fool me, at least I am not that desilusional!
... Seriously, are you sure about your measurements and weight? I'm 169 cm, 74kg and a 98 bust, 76cm waist and 102 hip.

>Lolita hides a lot of flaws but I wish I could do this pretty clothes more justice. I have the feeling I ruin the fashion for others but I don't want to stop, since it is the only thing where I feel some beauty.
It's just clothes anon, they're not the holy grail of fashion only meant to be worn by the chosen prettiest people on the planet. You cannot ruin the fashion for anyone as everyone is allowed to wear it and people who quit wearing Lolita because and ugly person dared to wear a cute dress aren't meant for this fashion (or any other hobby) anyway. A lot of Lolitas are average or even on the ugly side of the spectrum and yet no one rage quitted Lolita because of them. Even some of the more popular Lolitas aren't pretty or even average (LovelyLor, SiriusC, sapphiradoll for example are all people who might not be "pretty" by common standards).


I wish you all the best on your journey to self acceptance and making peace with yourself anon!

>> No.8009976

My shoulders are fucking huge. I'm an apple shape and I refuse to have my shoulders showing ever, and everything makes me look super top-heavy.
Why wasn't I born a pear shape?!

>> No.8009981

>>8008996
Try getting older and still into sweet, as least people are somewhat kinder about older women wearing classic.

>> No.8009989

>>8009981
Here's a hint: dressing like grown women used to some years ago while being a grown woman is a bit odd. Dressing like a little child used to is infantile.

>> No.8009990

I have very thin, muscular legs. People sometimes accuse me of being anorexic. When I wear high heels it looks like I don't have any fat on my calves. I just doesn't seem good with lolita.

I also look a bit androgyne, sometimes people call me 'mr'. :')

>> No.8009992

>>8009981
Trust me, the older you get, the less you care about other people's opinions.

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I'm not gifted with the most beautiful face, and especially on pictures I always look super derpy. This combined with my face looking weird with wigs from day to day (like seriously some days it's fine and some days it's totally not???) but having shit real hair to work with, it makes me feel very insecure next to some of the cuties in my comm.

>> No.8009997

>>8009989
>Dressing like a little child used to is infantile
I still have yet to see a child walking around wearing pastel poofy dresses with ponies or some other sweet motif on it.

>> No.8010012

>>8009731
>lumpy soup
Bless you, anon.

Even though my bust measurement is only 84cm I have stupid huge boobs and I worry they make me look way fatter than I am. I can't wear cardigans without a belt because of them and it just makes everything look... off.

>> No.8010019

>>8009997
>used to
reading comprehension

>> No.8010023

I hate my face, I want to get plastic surgery so I can look pretty in lolita but I feel it would be stupid to get surgery only for that reason. I really didn't hate my appearance that much before I got into lolita but became more self-consciousness when I got into the fashion. Mostly because I see girls who have similar features as me get hate for their appearance, I never post pictures of myself because of that. I want to get surgery to be a pretty lolita and finally post my coords and be more active in communities.

>> No.8010044

>>8010019
Are you saying children in the past DID wear pastel poofy dresses with ponies or sweets on them?

>> No.8010050

Do any of you guys think you would feel any less insecure if the kinda things being detailed here weren't the very same things that others bash fellow j-fashion followers for on here, and other snarky/gossipy type sites?

I reckon a lot of well-known j-fash types lurk here, partly to make sure the shit talk flying around isn't about them, whilst continuing to dish it out anonymously whenever they feel like it. /cgl/ and the like make people paranoid as fuck and trapped in a cycle of neurosis is what I think I'm saying (unless it's just me, oh god what if it's just me?). My ears look funny.

>> No.8010052

My teeth are my biggest down fall. I have a pretty okay face and body. Large brown eyes, small nose, pale with pinkish cheeks, thin, 5'3 but I hate my teeth. Not that they are dirty or unclean, I brush them twice a day, but I have a slight over bit, like bunny teeth so I can't close my mouth properly and I hate smiling ;.;

>> No.8010055

my face isn't exactly pretty so i feel i would let the co-ord down, so i don't even bother

>> No.8010058

>>8009045
Ha! I know this feeling - 'get out freak'! *goes off to join the freaks* - 'get out normie poser, you're not hardcore enough'. Can't we like, just get along man.

>> No.8010561

>>8010050
I would say cgl made me feel worse about how I look than before.

>> No.8010579

I am chubby/ fat 5'3 and 155 pounds. I can fit in baby and metamorphose (never owned angelic pretty) but don't like how I look in them. I want to someday wear innocent world and it fit me comfortably.

I also have really tight curls and short hair, I look much better in wigs, but wigs makes me feel like I am in costume.

>> No.8010596

>>8009631
Lots of cardio, and you need to stretch as you strengthen. Look up ballet warm-ups and exercises on YouTube, they work like a charm. That said, your thighs may never be super thin as compared to others if your build doesn't allow for it, but you can get them as thin as they naturally can be.

>> No.8010603

>>8010579
You can fit into AP too. Especially with their current sizing.

>> No.8010605

Gaining weight, I work out 3-4 hours a day every other day to make sure that I stay thin. Although I'm currently underweight, I'm afraid of gaining weight.

>> No.8010609

I'm incredibly skinny (like, gyaru purikuri shoop skinny) and have no shape to speak of. I need at least 4 pettis to get a good shape and my arms and legs look like noodles among all the ruffles.

>> No.8010617

>>8008943
A sweet dress in a black colorway will likely be the slide down the slippery slope!

My wardrobe is still mostly gothic and classic, but I love and cherish the few sweet JSKs I have. And it's super-easy to coordinate one's black chiffon blouses and tights with a sweet black-and-pink dress. It seems like the black colorways of sweet prints are the least popular, too (and easier to find on secondhand sites), so it's actually pretty convenient for gothic lolitas who want to branch out.

>> No.8010620

>>8010044
Different anon, but are you seriously trying to say that little girls wouldn't run around every day in frilly pastel princess dresses with ponies on them if their parents let them? Sweet lolita is 100% infantile. Just accept it.

>> No.8010628

>>8009874
Gurl, I am the same weight/height as you, and I post online all the time. There's a lot more to being a ham planet than the numbers. How your weight is distributed it a big part of it, as well as what you choose to wear. Obviously stuffing yourself into clothing that doesn't fit will make you look terrible, but there are plenty of ways to look nice in this fashion with things that fit. I've posted myself here before and gotten positive responses, so it's possible.

>> No.8010635

>>8010620
Plus they shoop themselves to look like cute little Asian girls. Sweet lolita is about looking like a little girl, so many people are in denial.

>> No.8010637

>>8010620
I don't remember wanting to do that ever when I was that age, and that's not me being snowflakey. Pretty sure that's a princess thing and not a little girl thing.

Mythical princesses tend to figure out they're princesses when they're in their teens too, so idk man.

Now sweet shit that looks exactly like a baby blanket I get for sure.

>> No.8010661

>>8009318

Nope. It's not like I'm claiming that's my real face. Anybody who's worth anything to me know what I look like in real life, I've always been very open about shooping and nobody seems to have much of issue.

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>>8010637
But the princess you want to look like is a children costume rendition as sold by Disney and Walmart or Japan. Not pic related (not an expert on medieval clothing here). Just accept that the sweet aesthetic is infantile and that's why it's less socially acceptable. That doesn't make it a fetish, it doesn't mean you can't dress like that.

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>>8010681
>But the princess you want to look like is a children costume rendition as sold by Disney and Walmart or Japan. Not pic related (not an expert on medieval clothing here). Just accept that the sweet aesthetic is infantile and that's why it's less socially acceptable. That doesn't make it a fetish, it doesn't mean you can't dress like that.

Fucking Christ, I'm not even a Sweet Lolita but all this bullshit is driving me nuts.
>abloo abloo Sweet is something only little girls would like
Are you fucking kidding me. Take two seconds to look at what women wore in Rococo, Baroque or even the Victorian/Edwardin age from which many dresses take their inspiration. Pic related because it's the first pink dress that came to my mind; it has many elements aside from huge prints that Sweet dresses have today. Just think about the shit tons of bows, flowers, lace, similar shape with tons of "poof" and other OTT stuff that you probably would not find in most Classic dresses as they are often more toned down; these dresses like pic related were once worn by grown women too (not to mention childrens' fashion used to be adult fashion just in children size). It's only by today's standards that by putting a bow in your hair or wearing a pink Lolita dress everyone suddelny screams "OMG no grown women would ever wear this lel Sweet Lolita is so weird and childish!!1 XD"

Sure, it's not what society consideres as "mature" or "fashionable" or normal anymore, but this shitty argument and all the whining about Sweet being so childish and whatever the fuck people claim it to be grinds my gears to no end.

>> No.8010853

>>8010681
I'm not into sweet lolita, though, anon. I actually prefer really toned down gyaru and otome. I just think sweet lolita does look pretty on other people and I don't associate it with children unless it's a really overboard print. Teddy bears and blocks, for example.

>> No.8010882

>>8010839
lol calm your tits and learn to read

>> No.8010896

>>8009945
If they are, they're idiots. Most lolitas are done with puberty, so altos are just as normal in the fashion as is the rest of the post-puberty female population.

I personally am more annoyed with people who do unnaturally high voices while acting like a weeb.

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mostly my weight and face. i have an eating disorder and at my worse i was 65 lbs (5'1) though i've gained a bit of weight because of being in the hospital and am hovering around 80 lbs now. but i just feel so disgusting, most things don't fit me very well but i still feel huge and want to lose weight again. i also have a bunch of self harm scarms littering my body which i feel ashamed of. i don't feel like i deserve to wear anything beautiful when i'm so fucking disgusting inside and out.

>> No.8011013

I>>8010975
know I can't tell you to just ignore your feelings but you have to already know they are irrational. You know 80 lbs is under weight, most Lolita's weigh 20-40 more than that!
I hope you feel better soon. If your face upsets you so much, maybe put towards plastic surgery, but don't let yourself obsess over it until you have it within your sights or you'll just get depressed that you can't afford it yet. I wish you all the best and hope you can recover.

>> No.8011022

>>8010975
If you lose weight again you are going to be dead from complications of your low weight and won't be able to wear lolita, so it's a bit of a moot point, and I can guarantee you that losing weight won't truly help any of the things you are feeling right now, even if you think it will. I think you need to concentrate on being strong, both physically and mentally, and as part of that you do need to go with your treatment plan and give your body some fuel to be able to think rationally.

>> No.8011058

>>8009330
Oh hey anon, fellow wonky humpnose anon here! I call it my Stephen Fry nose.
None of my friends have never acknowledged it and get really flustered if I bring it up.
Just keep an eye on your angles in photos, it's not really the end of the world since the amount of times I see myself side on is so few so it's just the wonkyness that's bad. Surgery one day, if I ever have any money, but we could have both have it worse.

>> No.8011061

>>8011013
>>8011022

i know losing weight wont really help, but i'm just so scared of eating and putting on weight, yet at the same time i know that it's what i have to do to recover. i just feel so hopeless and trapped in this disorder. years of treatment and hospital admissions hasn't seemed to help so i just feel like a failure at this point. sorry for turning this into a pity party haha, i don't mean to whine about all of this

>> No.8011063

>>8010975
I know the feel of wanting to stay thin. I'm 5'1 and weigh about 90 lbs.

>> No.8011064

Being mtf and a sweet lolita
Gotta get facial surgery asap but idk how long it'll take. Im young and have a shitty job and no real skills besides being okay at art.

>> No.8011122

I'm really self conscious about my weight,barely any of my lolita fits because it's too big.Tried to gain weight but end up losing instead. Feel like comm members call me a skeleton behind my back and I don't go to many meetups anymore because I feel so gross

>> No.8011141

>>8011063

How the hell do you do it? I'm at 112 now and I can't seem to break 107. Same height as you. Tried 1000 cals a day, got down to 107. When I tried 800 calories a day all I could think about was food. Also learned that trying to eat 800 cals a day is retarded.

>> No.8011142

>>8011141
Why are you trying to get to such a low weight instead of looking better by working out?

>> No.8011177

>>8011142

Loved weight training, but my weight went up even while using MFP to keep to a 1200-1000 calorie diet. I went up to 114, but I didn't mind because my measurements did go down. Though I became a straight line from armpit to hip which was odd.

>> No.8011199

>>8008749
TBH I find shaved arm hair looks weirder than having arm hair unless it's literally gorilla-level. Getting it bleached can help to make it less noticeable without actually shaving it off. As to the lip hair, wax or something?

>>8008775
Ehh, tall is fine, especially since longer-length dresses are becomign more popular. I'm very lazy about shaving too but I'd never let it stop me wearing short sleeves, I just avoid anything but opaque tights.

>>8008801
I try to keep brand stuff just for meets, but my comm always go to restaurants for meets which is more dangerous to a dress than just sitting around at home would be...

>>8008821
See >>8009850

>>8008865
Get a fringe.

>>8008969
>>8009067
>>8009506
>>8009622
I feel that. Ever since I've started wearing lolita more regularly, and not just to meets, it feels odd knowing that if I was to take daily coord photos some people would call me ita. There's nothing physically wrong with the coords, they're just plain, with no prints and few accessories.

>>8009100
You're probably not as unpretty as you look, and if people are more focused on your coord than on your face it doesn't matter anyway.

>>8009288
I felt like this when I first got into lolita. All of my friends had befriended me when I was very much a tomboy, so they weren't keen on lolita at all. My family also acted really weird about me wearing dresses and constantly brought it up. They've got over it now to the point where they don't comment on it, but I can tell they still think it's bizarre, especially since outside of lolita I still never wear skirts or dresses

>>8009688
It might be partially to do with your make-up. Some photographs better than others; I always used to get annoyed because make-up that looked amazing and subtle in real life just wouldn't show up in photos at all.

>> No.8011222

>>8009962
OPs with corset lacing at the back are good - few layers and can fit your figure. A lot of lolita dresses seem to be built to a more straight up and down figure (maybe because Asian brands expect the customer to be more flat-chested, but then if I buy something that'll fit my bust it's too large on the waist) and look bad on me if I don't cinch the waist in somehow.

>>8009996
My face looks odd in some wigs. I have a thin face with fairly prominent cheekbones, which in normalfag fashion and with updos looks fine (even desirable) but I feel like with wigs it sometimes makes me look like a man in drag. Blonde wigs especially I get really insecure about. While I was travelling semi-incognito (wig on but not a dress or petti) to a meet, this guy kept staring at me and I got paranoid and convinced it was because he thought I was a guy.

>>8010605
Get help. If you're already underweight, that's definitely not healthy, and even if you were a healthy weight working out 3-4 hours a day out of compulsion rather than because it's a hobby is not mentally sound.

>>8011022
+1

>>8011177
That's because muscle weighs more than fat, no shit.

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>>8009874
I'm close to your measurements and this is how I look, note this isn't even close to a complete coord, I'm just casually trying it on to give seagulls an idea of how us "low end" fatties look in Lolita. For reference I WAS able to get it on with no problem, it's an AP piece but I still think I look pretty much like a land whale. Fat is fat no matter were we are on the spectrum anon and we all look equally awful, that's the unfortunate truth.

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>>8008749
Same and having dark hair over lighter skin makes them appear worse. I usually get my upper lip hair threaded. That area's gotten pretty toughen up over the years of doing it that I can manage to tweeze a good number myself. I think it's better than getting it waxed because it's easier to remove the details. If I could afford to, I'd probably go through electrolysis for a more permanent removal. I try to leave my arms alone, but waxing or sugaring seems to be most effective and I usually reserve that method for the summer.

>>8011058
>None of my friends have never acknowledged it and get really flustered if I bring it up.

Oooh, I hate this feel. I don't have much of a problem with my nose (other than keeping glasses up on a low nose bridge), but I absolutely hate my lower jaw. I went through my entire childhood to adolescence going through corrective dental appliances (from the orthodontic face mask to several teeth removals and braces), and just after high school, I got more news about my misaligned lower jaw. Unless I point it out to others or if I'm around someone who knows a thing or two about dentistry, no one believes me that it's fucked up.
I absolutely hate having pictures taken. I've managed to figure out a decent angle, but it doesn't hide the fact that when I smile, my lower jaw juts out.

>>8009506
Plainly coordinated lolitas unite!

>tfw most everyone in the comm wears an ott version of their favorite style and own a lot of brand (and very often the latest print)

>I own mostly brand too
>Only printed items are boring florals
>Try to jazz up an outfit, but take everything off, go to a meet and feel under-dressed.

Oh well. At least my comm isn't mean over something dumb like a plain outfit, as far as I know. It's just a weird feeling is all.

>> No.8011313

>>8009522
Reverse image search tells me:
Yozakura Quartet: Hana no Uta

Also topic related:
All the sweets eating (picnics,cafe meetups) does put a pressure on weight management.

>> No.8011316

>>8011301
Yo, my wardrobe is all muted and almost exclusive non-print. It's what I like and it's what looks best on me, IMO. Nobody ever gives me flack for it, though. In fact, people always say I look really nice--lolitas and normalfags alike.

>> No.8011319

>>8011272
some fatties are cute though anon, sorry you're not one of them.
>not having nice make up on
>not doing your hair properly
>no petti
you're just setting yourself up to fail in that shot.

>> No.8011325

>>8008779
My calves are above average size and my height is 5'6, my height and size (I'm about 140 lbs) make me feel insecure as fuck. It makes it hard for me to wear mori fashion because I have a lot of curves and the clothing makes me look like a blob because my curves put the fabric out and make all of me look like I'm that big.

>> No.8011337

>>8011319
>not understanding the concept of super casual just to give an idea of a low-end fatty's body shape and how they look/fit into some lolita

Its amazing you still got the idea that this was even near an attempt at a coord.

>> No.8011346

>>8011319
Ignore the face just concentrate on the shape and how the dress fits, this was only meant to be an example for the other short, fat anon.

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>>8009874
>but always stop because I know that I look grossly obese in photos
Aw anon, I know them feels. But I'm sure you don't look as bad as you think. The worst that can happen is that people won't like your photos. It doesn't mean you can't work on losing more weight. But, imo, if your local comm says you look good then it's likely true. You'd get choppy, arbitrary feedback if it weren't.

I'm 5'3 and a size 14/15, nobody has really given me shit for my weight so far. I've lost 80 pounds in the past year, but even at my heaviest I got posted to cgl and people weren't really mean at all. It could be the same for you too.

>>8011272
IMO this would look better with a bolero and a fuller wig, but really, nobody is going to look mind-blowingly phenomenal from just wearing a jsk and throwing their hair back. I don't think you'd look awful if you did the whole nine yards.

>> No.8011358

>>8011319
Her face itself is cute I think she suits Sweet really well since she has a baby-face, however her whole overall look in the photo? Definitely Ita

As for what the photo was actually trying to accomplish, I think your body shape isn't that bad. I mean yeah its definitely fat but its the right amount of fat that could still pull off Lolita. idk you're one of more okay fatty-chans I've seen but again like others have said maybe I'm too used to seeing the worst of the worst hamplanets being posted here.

Desensitization?

>> No.8011364

>>8011061
Of course recovery is terrifying - it's change, and change is fucking scary. In some ways it's easier to be fucked up because at least you're used to it and it gives you control of/purpose in life (as weird as that sounds). One of my psychs said that people with addiction disorders and eating disorders can be very similar in that one is addicted to a substance and one is addicted to a certain behaviour (in your case, not eating and being slim) and that's why it's so hard to recover. On the other hand, the fact that you're there, in hospital, actually means that things can change and it isn't too late, the trick is to take it in baby steps and not beat yourself up about the littlest setback or use it as an excuse to go back into your old habits. It's when you get back into the spiral of unhealthy habits that it really messes you up, and so you really, really need to try and form healthy habits and healthier relationships as yourself as part of your recovery. It's not easy though, and anyone who says "just eat more" has no idea about the complexity of the relationships that you build up with yourself/food/eating over time.

>> No.8011368

>>8011349
AP photo example anon here, yeah I wasn't posting the pic to get critiques coord wise, just trying to give an idea of other short, low-end fatties' body shapes and how they look in Lolita, I look pretty fucking terrible but it was the spur of the moment example pic so its not meant to look good. Like you said I know I'd look a million times better if I posted this as a full on coord with me all dolled up and prepared, but that isn't really the point of the topic at hand.

I'm confident in how I'm able to present myself, its my weight and how it looks in Lolita that worries me the most, so if you think even with my weight issues me still doing the whole nine years wouldn't look so bad... Well I thank you cause I honestly do have days where I think I'm much too fat for this fashion.

You however look great, your weight is distributed really well, I would've never guessed you're around that size..

>> No.8011378

>>8008823
Whoah, we are similar, only I have a 23 inch waist and 38 inch hips. My thighs look ok from the front but the actual knee joint itself and my QUADS and hamstrings... They get bigger and defined when I'm in shape so they look like manly cyclist legs or I stop exercising and I just get a layer of fat over the muscle... It looks like my thighs and ass were shooped onto a skinny girl sometimes. My thighs are an inch and a half bigger than my waist...

I also have acne, am so short that my dresses swamp me and sweat like crazy when anxious. As in social situations. As in any kind of meetup...

>> No.8011384

>>8011368
Well you're most certainly not too fat for this fashion and I think, as far as fatness goes, you're on the chubby tier and nowhere near hambeast level where you have to worry.

Also thanks, I'd like to think I wear things that don't make me look like a house bwahah.

>> No.8011387

>>8011316
I have been a lolita for 2 years, and still haven't bought a print dress. Although I have been considering it recently.

>> No.8011401

>>8011384
Yeah that's the other thing, finding stuff that actually LOOKS good on us too, not just fitting things.

You real cute though anon, I doubt its just the clothes making you look that way. You're one of them blessed "adorable chubbies" that perfectly suit this fashion and imo even look better then the super-thin girls.

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>>8011401
>tfw this post
Shucks anon, I hope you have a good holiday.

>> No.8011484

>>8011177
Muscle weighs much more than fat, duh. If you think that weighing such a small amount it great instead of actually being sort of fit then fine, but it's stupid.

>> No.8011490

Thighs, stockings and the shape of my legs. I was born with a slight crook on my feet which has caused my legs to become and 'x' shape over the course of my life, plus making the inner side of my knees stick out. (Looks specially gross over socks)

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8011689

I have monolid eyes which is such a big no no.

I've figured out how to do basic make up on it. But I have to color like 5 inches high eyeliner for it to actually be noticable. I've looked up loads of tutorials to try something else, but it never looks great on me. I'm tired of trying and every failed attempt makes me want to hide in a hole and cry.

Maybe it's just my general lack of knowing how to do make up. Every time I try to blend eye shadow together, it looks like I got a black eye.

Pic related except it's still not a complete monolid, lol.

Should I just start using eyelid glue?

>> No.8011709

>>8010044
Different anon, I use to wear poofy dresses with ponies on them. The glories of being an 80s child.

>> No.8011715

>>8011689
Bunbun makeup tutorials? Specifically the vertical gradient and tips for '14 types of Asian eyes'. You also have to take into account eye shap - not all monolid eyes are the same shape either!

>> No.8011732
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>>8011349
Sorry if this is creepy anon, but is this you, next to last on the right?

>> No.8011764

>>8011349
Nobody's given you flak about your weight yet because some of us see you as a goddess. I would white knight you until the end.
>tfw i don't even know if you like girls

>> No.8011777

>>8008735
I'm so bad at make up and look pretty average. I have good coords, but every time I see one of the models in our comm and how much more impressive they look even in simple coords. They get so much more attention and positive feedback just for being pretty. I just feel unappreciated.

>> No.8011780

>>8011349
>>8011732
10/10 you look fantastic, I know a few girls that could sadly take some tips from you about silhouettes/playing to your body shape

>> No.8011796

>>8011732
>that girl completely fucking over that Vierge Vampur dress
WHY

>> No.8011804

I'm constantly self-conscious that I look and act like garbage, because of garbage-dressed autists. I am very much on the spectrum and I don't want to look and act the part of the steteotype. It always makes me so happy when people find out and they never noticed anything odd about me. A lot of work and therapy goes into it. I just want to be a normal person in society and a proper lolita, even if it's a bit more work for me to do so.

>> No.8011820

>>8011804
This is exactly my problem too. People often tell me that I seem "shy" rather than autistic so I prefer to keep the diagnosis to myself. Sometimes I feel like things would be easier if I told people (maybe they'd stop taking it so personally when I don't want to go to big noisy events with them, for instance) but I'm so worried that people will start looking at me differently or start treating me like I'm mentally retarded.
I've always been able to get along with "neurotypical" people better than with other people on the spectrum. In my experience most people on the spectrum tend to be very immature, obnoxious and completely lacking in self-awareness or common sense. So far every group therapy I've ever tried ended with me leaving in frustration and second-hand embarrassment. I'm so afraid that this is how I come off to normal people and everyone is just too nice to tell me this.

>> No.8011824

>>8011820
Forgot to mention that this is the reason I haven't approached my local lolita community yet. When I told my friends about the diagnosis they became kind of awkward around me and I've since lost contact with many of them. I want to start fresh with a new group of people but I don't know if it's a good idea to tell anyone or not. I feel like, if I say something wrong and "out" myself to the wrong person, I'll permanently ruin my chances of making new friends.

>> No.8011837

>>8011824
I think you can tell people that you don't like big noisy events or particular situations without having to explain being on the spectrum to them - as long as you explain that you are declining the invite because you feel uncomfortable in that environment then you can usually leave it there, if they want to know more they can ask. Despite being entirely 'normal'/'neurotypical', I don't like house parties with lots of strangers to the point where I'd much rather hide in my own room even when the party is at my place, so I will often decline invites when I don't know the majority of people attending. No-one has ever pressed me for an explanation beyond 'I don't enjoy events with a whole lot of strangers and I think I'd just be a downer if I went'

>> No.8011839

>>8011820

Also on the spectrum, but due to other issues I am painfully self aware and now extremely socially anxious regardin incidents or comments that would have gone right over my head when I was younger, confident, happier and very obviously autistic. Sometimes I think ignorance is bliss because I am constantly berating myself or paranoid that my autism is showing. I feel embarrassed by the fact I still have major meltdowns, am hypersensitive and A LOT of issues that make me overanalyse every single situation to the point of mental exhaustion. I have become obsessed with trying to understand customs, culture, semiotics, language and social code... PEOPLE basically. Every time I read people use asspie or autist as an insult it reminds me of when I first read the Encyclopedia Drammatica article. I get consumed by self loathing and think that perhaps it is all made up and I'm just full of shit. It makes me want the earth to literally swallow me up in that moment. My diagnosis tore my family apart; my paternal grandmother was really heavy handed with me and bullshitted the diagnosis. My dad just used every fight with my mother as an excuse to blame my 'retardation' on her before knocking her around.

Ugh. I have probably said too much. People either complain that I'm too quiet or I ramble on about myself or my obsessions far too much.

>> No.8011843

My boobs cause me a load of problems with lolita. They barely fit into anything. While the rest of me fits into an M, i have to get custom sizing for my bust. It's embaressing and means i can't fit into some of the brand i want. I've gotten Oojai replica's instead and i feel bad that it's replica but good cause it's dresses i love. I feel insecure and paranoid that people think i look awful or ridiculas because my bust is so big. I've even contemplated getting a breast reduction. Whats upsetting is people have called me fat because all they can see if the bust, which hurts as the rest of me is far from fat. It sucks.

>> No.8011848

>>8011837
I've tried that but they often do not understand and take it personally. For some reason they hear "I don't want to go to this party because I don't like noisy parties" as "I don't want to go because I don't want to hang out with you". Usually they nag and try to change my mind for a few minutes before they give up. It seems some people just cannot comprehend how anyone could not enjoy a party if their friends are there. I realize I probably just need more understanding friends, but making friends has never been easy for me.

>>8011839
We sound similar, anon. I was originally referred to the psychologist for social anxiety, which I think is caused by a kind of hyper self-awareness in my case. I also obsess over all the things you mentioned and have a lower tolerance for rudeness and social gaffes than I ought to, considering how awkward I am myself. It's made it extra hard for me to fit in anywhere since I have such ridiculous expectations of myself and, to a certain extent, everyone around me.

I'm really sorry to hear about your family. At least I'm lucky enough to have understanding parents; my extended family is also very ignorant on the issue but I'm not close to them anyway so their opinion doesn't affect me as much. To me it sounds like your family was pretty dysfunctional to begin with and your diagnosis was just the final straw, but of course I don't actually know the situation.

>> No.8011854

I'm an ugly version of Fanny Rosie.

>angular nose
>deep set eyes
>I pick at my skin because of my anxiety
>can't makeup
>frizzy hair

I'm trying to get better, and so far I've improved but I still nitpick the fuck out of myself.

>> No.8011860

>>8011843
I apologize if this is redundant, but make sure you have a proper fitting for a bra! Either a proper bra boutique or Nordstrom will have a proper fitter. Getting a real fit can be a huge improvement in both looks and comfort, in and of lolita.

Sage for the bravangelism.

>> No.8011862

My bust is 35 cm larger than my waist. :(

>> No.8011864

>>8011862
Also, my hair blows.

>> No.8011866

>>8011843
I have a tiny waist and big boobs (30+ cm difference). I really recommend binding your chest--it can make a huge difference. I can fit into unshirred stuff now when I bind; without it I can just barely fit shirred AP.

>> No.8011868

>>8011843
This is me. I fit into a US S or M except for my evil G cups. It's such a pain in the ass.

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>>8011843
>>8011862
>>8011866
I feel your pain anons.
My boobs are 30cm larger than my waist, and it's so hard to find any brand dresses that fit (especially without an awful boobloaf). I love Classic Lolita but I gave up the dream of ever fitting into any VM/MM Jsks or OPs. My dream dress will also never ever fit me.
>mfw

>> No.8011884

>>8011866
I've never tried binding before. I have been thinking about trying it though! My bust is 120cm. I have a 62cm waist. would binding help get down to a 100cm that might fit brand?

>> No.8011886

>>8011866
What do you recommend for binding? Any binders/favourite brand? Can you talk a little about your experience with wearing them?

>> No.8011887

And yes, i know im a freak with those measurements. It's why i've considered surgery.

>> No.8011895

>>8011884
Sweet baby jesus. Have you considered porn?

>> No.8011912

I have a ladybeard due to PCOS. At least I dodged the weight bullet so if you looked at me you'd have no idea but the result is that I have a lot of coarse neck and chin hair. I have to pluck it daily and shave weekly and as a result have a lot of underchin acne and scarring.

I want nothing more than to get electrolysis but you have to grow your hair out for that. I'm not sure I could handle the intense beard I think I'd grow if I stopped plucking every spare second.

>> No.8011918

>>8011884
It depends; your results may be different than mine. I use the most heavy duty Underworks binder and I can get to 85 or so (from natural 98).

>>8011886
It's not necessarily uncomfortable to wear a binder but it is a sensation that requires getting used to (it's basically squishing your boobs to your ribcage after all). I have bought all my binders from Underworks so I can't speak for any other brands, but Underworks has yet to disappoint me.

>> No.8011932

>>8011912
How long does the hair need to be, and how long would you have to leave it alone to achieve this? Maybe if you're saving up for electrolysis you can also save up for a little ladybeard-getting-rid-of holiday of one or two weeks where you just kind of chill out in your beardy glory by yourself for a while.
Once when I accidentally fucked up my eyebrows I just kind of hid away in my house for a week until they grew back. Fortunately it was a school holiday and I'm a bit of a loner anyway. Maybe I'm just crazy.

>> No.8011935

>>8011918
Does binding do any damage to the breast tissue?

>> No.8011948

>>8011912
have you tried waxing?

>> No.8011956

>>8011935
Not that anon, but unless you're wearing your binder literally all day every day, you should be fine. Trans dudes are the only ones that have to worry about damage to the breast tissue (and they obviously don't care).

>> No.8011963

>>8011732
Not creepy at all and yeah. That's the pic I was referencing when I thought people would be mean about my weight. I weighed a lot in that one, but apparently people liked it!
>>8011764
>>8011780
You both are flattering me, blushing real bad right now.
>>8011796
She's quite the character indeed. She has some mental troubles, so people tend to give her a pass so as not to upset her. In general my comm is really mellow, we don't like to make waves if we can avoid it.

>> No.8011964

>>8008735
I don't wear lolita but I do wear J-fashion.

1) I've complained about this before but: My 2c/3a curly hair.

2)Complained about this before; my height because I can't ever seem to fit into tights or leggings @ 5'6

3)My weight (I'm "Healthy" on bmi but the thing is my thighs are thick and i have a lil belly that I don't like.. )

4)My breasts are too big and I can never get cute bras and it's hard to fit into some of my mori clothing. 34DDD is a hard bra to find, even at somewhere like victoria secret they'll have the basic full coverage bras, and they'll be pricy as fuck.

5)My feet; size 11 feet (US size) is hard to find any cute shoes.. I pretty much get heart broken every time I try to go shoe shopping, they're freaking simple shoes too.

6)A silly one: My butt has a tiny dent in it from fat not distributing correctly

7)My legs have scars on them so I try to wear otk's and leggings a lot.

8) I have hair on my belly

9) I have hair in my butt cheeks

10) My voice.. I don't really like it.

>> No.8011979

>>8009956
Wow, you have the same height, weight, bust and hip measurements as me. But I have a fat 84 cm waist tho.. Your measurements sound good. Don't focus on losing weight, just focus on your mental health. I've spent all my life thinking I'm an ugly fat pig but now I have overcome several issues of mine (I still have anxiety but not nearly as bad as before) and I've been to therapy for a year too.

I've noticed that lolita makes me look really good. I just started wearing it. Before I actually wore it I thought I was way too fat for lolita and I would never look good and that I would just be scorned upon because I'm so fat and ugly... Well, I do look great in lolita and I don't think anyone is going to complain about me being fat. It doesn't matter what size you are, if you wear clothes that fit and look good on you.
Remember; no one really cares about how you look. They probably arent going to notice small flaws that you may have. And even if someone does, who cares? Obviously in lolita fashion, people are going to criticize on your outfits, but that is not what I'm talking about. Negative comments on persons face or body are not okay. They are not necessary and they could be hurtful. Telling people to "lose weight" also does not work well.

>> No.8011984

>>8011964
I hope you don't actually think your butt is in any way fashion related and are just venting...

>> No.8011994

>>8011984
me being too big in general makes it hard to fit into some pieces, and yes I'm trying to lose weight but even when I only eat 1200 calories a day it doesn't work. (Eating healthy at that.)

>> No.8011998

>>8011994
Do the hairs on it contribute to its size or

>> No.8012001
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>Deep nasolabial folds
>Angular nose
>small old lady lips

Constant bitchface makes me look like a witch.

>> No.8012087

>>8012001
Do witch coords!
seriously, if you take the piss out of your flaws yourself, no one else will take the piss out of you.

>> No.8012150

>>8010839
this. I mean..it's like people are already bothered when you wear pink or lavender in normal life. I just hate the fact that 'sweet' is the same as 'childish' for most people. The whole reason why I wear lolita is because I feel it's at least accepted to wear cute stuff. People should just wear whatever they like..when they think it's childish it's only because it's not popular and it somehow grew that way that sweet colors aren't that accepted anymore because of current fashion/culture. And why is it that almost every kid these days wants to look like they're ten years older than they are. why? Enjoy life, enjoy your own style!

>> No.8012154

I feel like it's making me a bit selfish. I am an adult & probably should be saving for the future now that I am in a better position financially in work but I am spending all of my disposable income on clothes. Lolita gives me so much pleasure in wearing it, and in the hunt & takes my mind off recent family loss. In one way it's helping me because instead of dwelling on thoughts that are not helpful: I am happy looking at beautiful things any spare moment (I don't have to tell you how much time a day that could be), then I feel guilty for being happy. Then guilty for spending so much money. Then I think fuck it- my parents are gone, it's a hard first christmas without both of them & my partner away working. It doesn't matter what kind of a life you lead you have no control over the manner & circumstance of your death anyway so may as well enjoy life while you are living. My friends dropped like flies (I am usually the one to be there for them in a crisis and no one has had a big loss yet) so pretty much no socialising outside of activities with the Mr. Hurrah, more money for dresses!

>> No.8012185

>>8011884
I'm not even a lesbian but pics?

>> No.8012186

I have small feet length wise, but width? It's terrible. My grandmother used to call me 'flinstone feet'.
I have a choice of shoes that are the right length, but the sides will be wrecked by my huge, ogre feet; or shoes the right width, but too big length wise to be able to walk in comfortably.

>> No.8012206

>>8010044
I just find it weird that victorian-esque clothing seems to generally have been relegated to childrenswear. You're supposed to only have your under tens in a lace collar, a big dress or a bonnet simply because it fell out of fashion for adults? A big reason I got into lolita regularly was church being an excuse to dress up. All the kids had mary janes, bows, lace and peter pan collars. Just can't understand what makes this not suitable for an adult if it's pretty.

Back on topic, I'm 5ft and look really stumpy unless you take coord photos from a low angle. Also dark skinned, so I may not show up in the damn photos at all. I'm also alarmed by the amount of colors that apparentky don't suit my skin tone.

>> No.8012208

>>8010050
Yup, and we're all addicted to it. We all like to make out we don't give a fuck and hate attention seekers when we are probably all just as weeby, validation hungry and paranoid about breaking unwritten rules in case it goes against 4chan culture. We're scared about being shitted on yet run the risk of opening out mouths and posting other people. It's poison, but then again so is everything these days.

>> No.8012220

Hate my body shape and size, my nose, my eyes, just pretty much hate everything.

I also have bells palsy and it's very mild, the only issue is my mouth because it droops at bit on one side. It could be worse but it still really bothers me, my smile can never look right and it looks stupid when my mouth is closed, I'm unlucky because mine never went away.

>> No.8012249

>>8011490
Knock knees? Me too. If I wear light colored tights my knee joints looks so obvious jutting inwards. BLACK TIGHTS!

>> No.8012259

>>8012208
>when we are probably all just as weeby, validation hungry and paranoid about breaking unwritten rules

It's a phase that everyone goes through, but it's not like those are personality traits that each and every person eternally has. It's immaturity. Generally, once people find out that being an annoying ass special snowflake with a histrionic complex actually isn't that special, they drop it and find more important things to grasp at in life.
>proud to say I've never had a twitter, tumblr, instagram, or blog that enabled me to fall into that childish validation trap

>> No.8012271

I'm very insecure about my weight. Being on here for long enough destroys body confidence. i never used to think i was overweight, even my BMI is healthy. When i've said my measurements before on various threads people have always said i need to loose weight or that i'm fat, called me chubby ect. i'm 5'6 and 130lbs.

This site has destroyed my life.

>> No.8012274

>>8012271
They're trolling you and it's working. Go by what professionals say and not what other girls, who are also likely suffering body image issues, spout at you.

>> No.8012281

>>8011689
I have hooded eyes that look monolid but just have a really deep crease. I'd rather have that space to work with without a ton of folds in it that makes the makeup rub off, but that's just me.

>> No.8012324

>>8012281
You could rock a smokey look. I've always found hooded eyes work quite well for a smoulder effect with eyeshadow. Use them to your advantage! If the makeup rubs off, try put a primer on your lids before you apply your shadow. There are a few tutorials on youtube specifically for hooded eyes.

>> No.8012330

>>8012271
See a doctor.
There is either zero truth to what anons are saying to you, or there is some truth to it. If none, you might want to seek some help in building up your self esteem and not letting your self image get warped, you deserve a clear realistic view of your own body before you try to change anything. If some, you might want to seek some help finding the ideal workout routine for yourself. Even if that doesnt include losing weight, maybe toning up will help your confidence and release endorphins.

>> No.8012381

It seems like I'm being approached less by people compared to earlier this year. It could be that they didn't like me in the first place and were just putting up with me till now. I don't think I'm overly annoying, nor am I embarrassing. I just want to know what people think of me.

>> No.8012860

>>8011484
Um... Muscle and fat weigh the same. 1 lb of muscle weighs the same as 1 lb of fat. They're both 1 lb. Now, volume wise, 1 lb of fat takes up a lot more space than 1 lb of muscle. So two people can still weigh the same amount, but have very different body types.

>> No.8012879

I'm fat. I have several health problems and have no idea how to lose weight. A couple years ago, I randomly gained around 20lbs in less than a month. Unfortunately, my doctor was on vacation for like a month and they wouldn't let me schedule an appointment until she got back. While waiting, my gallbladder started suddenly acting up really bad and I ended up having it removed. Finally get to see my doctor 3 months after the random weight gain, but whatever issue was going on apparently righted itself because all my lab results came back normal and she blames my diet. I mean, really? I would have to be eating at least 3500 EXTRA calories a day to gain that kind of weight that quickly. It was fucking stupid. Anyways, I maintained my "new" weight for like another year or so until I started having problems with back pain. After like 6 months of dealing with that with a chiropractor, I see a new general doctor and she sends me for an MRI. Turns out 3 of the discs in my lower back are basically gone. Current treatment is a corticosteroid injection into my back. Main side effect of that is weight gain. I can tell I've gained more weight, but I haven't weighed myself since before the shot. I'm too scared to. Thankfully I'm pain free since the shot, but I'm scared any exercise besides my physical therapy stuff will screw up my back and I'll need another shot. But I also know I'll need another one eventually if I don't lose weight to take some of the strain off my spine. I've tried eating less calories/carbs, but I have so many issues with food now that I don't have a gallbladder. If I don't eat enough fats/carbs I end up with stomach troubles from the extra unused bile. So I don't know how to eat healthily without making myself sick. UGH.

>> No.8012898

>>8012879
Eat foods high in "good fats" like nuts and avacado. If you're still having troubles, go to your doctor but keep in mind it usually does take adjusting when your body isn't used to certain foods.

>> No.8012918

>>8012879
I had my doubts about physical therapy as well anon, but it was a godsend for me when I weighed 230 pounds and hurt my knees while trying to run everyday.

They never specified what the problem was, but basically I would get this random shooting pain in the backs of my knees. The only thing that helped were the exercises I learned in pt.

Also if you qualify, you could get bariatric surgery. I think they do that for people who are struggling with medical issues and who have a hard time keeping weight down on their own.

>> No.8012942

>8011839
I am a special education teacher and I work with a lot of kids on the spectrum (2nd and 3rd graders.) I have been working with them with social interactions, but I am extremely concerned of how they will fit in with their peers as they get older. Unfortunately, my interaction with those on the spectrum my age is slim. Anon, I wish you the best of luck. Don't always second guess yourself.

By the way, I have social anxiety too. It is really hard to talk to people in social settings. I often stay to myself for fear of saying the wrong thing. I want to be able to talk to other people, but I can almost feel myself shaking when I do. For some reason I am ok when I am at work. I go in to teacher mode.

Sorry for going off topic.

>> No.8012947

>>8012879
What >8012898 said. My favorite breakfast is unsweetened Greek yogurt with a bit of honey and 1/4-1/2 cup of walnuts plus a chopped up piece of fruit. Some special k too, sometimes.
Good low impact exercise is swimming, treading water or walking through water are also good if you can't move your arms much because of your back. I slipped a disc in my back and this was all I was allowed to do for a month.
As you lose weight it will become easier to exercise.

>> No.8012949

>>8012942
>>8011839
Sorry. Did not tag you properly.

>> No.8012983

Big tits, broad shoulders, wide ribcage, not very defined waist and it's not going to get much better with weight loss. I'm not getting any less wide from the front but it's noticeable when I loose weight from the side. This is probably gonna fuck me over big time when I get to my goals because I'm still going to have some issues fitting into anything that doesn't have a lot of shirring in it. I just won't be stretching it as much.

I'm also really muscly and a bit chubby too so I look like a fucking tank. I can coordinate and pose in ways that hides it in photos but I'm pretty sure I look pretty lumbering IRL.

Also my nose. It's not really big per-se, but it's narrow at the bridge and bulbous at the tip, and had that weird roundy nostril thing going on. Contouring doesn't do too much, or at least what I've tried. It doesn't help that I have a bit of a lazy eye too and I have to use 3/4 angles otherwise you can really see it.

>> No.8013004

>>8012879
Bile only digests fat, so cut down on your carbs. As the other anon said, non weight bearing exercise is good when you have back issues, also check with your physical therapist about Pilates and yoga since they strengthen your core which helps with back pain.

>> No.8013869

>>8013004
Right, but I still tend to get really nauseous if I cut down on carbs too much. I have a lot of trouble finding a happy medium because there are so many foods that I don't like and because I eat two of my daily meals at work. I generally get something from their cafeteria, but it's usually nasty. I'm slowly working on learning how to cook things that keep well for leftovers, but it's a process.

As far as workouts, that's basically what my physical therapy is. I have a lot of stretches and body weight exercises I can do alone or with an exercise ball. My spine problem has screwed up my hip, though. Because of the lack of discs, my spine curves a bit to the side at the bottom causing my right hip to sit about and inch higher than the left side. Thus causing my right leg to be about an inch shorter than the left, so I limp when I walk. And when I was in pain from my back, it also caused sciatica, so I had pain going all the way down to my right knee. I plan on trying to get back into swimming, but the motion of kicking did screw my back up once, so I'm a little hesitant. I'd love to be able to use a water treadmill, but the only one in my area is at my physical therapy office. But I'm not sure if I can use it now since I technically "graduated" physical therapy last week. Maybe I'll give them a call if the regular pool doesn't work for me.

>> No.8013921

>>8009874
Why don't you just lose some weight if you're that insecure about your body?

>> No.8013930

>>8011689
Ugh, this is me, anon. I have to draw on eyeliner RIDICULOUSLY thick to have it even be visible on my middle eyelid, but when I close my eyes it makes me look like a fucking panda because of how much eyeliner I put on. It's so fucking frustrating.

I was considering eyelid glue/tape too. I heard that it can help your eyelid settle to being a double eyelid, but also heard that using eyelid glue/tape too much can stretch your eyelids out which causes droopy eyelids? Don't know how accurate that is...

>> No.8014035

>>8013921
It's harder said than done. I'm not the original poster, but i've been slowly loosing weight over the past few years. it's taken me 5 years to loose 90lbs. It takes time and a whole lot of effort. It's easy to just tell people to loose weight, it's harder actually loosing it.

>> No.8014049

>>8013869
Aqua jogging/aqua aerobics then? My local pool reserves a lane for aqua jogging three evenings per week

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>>8014035
I think that's a decent pace (150 calorie deficit on average?).
People do underestimate how many calories you have to cut or burn for 90 pounds.

Also mirrors give you a more accurate vision of how you look in real life size wise as they give a three dimensional image and don't have distortion from lenses. The whole thing about cameras adding ten pound is mostly true. That's also something to keep in mind when you see pictures of thin elegant people. Being really skinny can look very disgusting in real life. Different from a hambeast but still not good.

>> No.8014083

I was nearing 280lb. i was a bit of hambeast, still kind of am. But i really hate how people still tell me "just loose weight" People just try shame you even if you have worked really hard to be the size you are. I was made fun of for asking if anyone was selling Lolita with my measurements. I've already tried really hard and will continue to but fuck me, People on here make you feel like shit regardless of how hard you try. No wonder people get eating disorders with the sheer hatred overweight people get. It's hard to loose weight, being ridiculed makes it harder because all you want to do is curl up in a ball and kill yourself. Yeah it's brilliant to be thin, but it's brilliant to have confidence, which unfortunately is impossible to have even when you loose weight if people are still treating you like shit.

>> No.8014086

>>8014083
I'm now at 184lb. btw.

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8015151

I have FUCKING deep wrinkles under my eyes at 18.
I have a super deep line under each eyes and on this weird bag/wrinkle i have another wrinkle and I have fucking dark circles under it caused by stress.. it makes me look tired all the time.
I drink a fuckton of water and sleep like mad and moisturize this shit everyday but nothing. Pic related.

>> No.8015195
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>>8015151
how many times have people said that those "wrinkles" (They're motherfucking skin folds) are something you develop as you're still growing, as in very young due to genetics, too young of an age for wrinkles to even begin to form. i have them and when I've tugged particularly forcefully I tend to get and even elongated "etched in" line/extension of that fold. If you don't pull at the skin around your eye, you're fine. Quit sweating over such inconsequential shit, jesus.

>pic related, my undereye puffyness and folds resemble this girl's only my eyes don't sag downwards that much

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>>8015195

>> No.8015206

I live in a tiny place, I can't be a member of my local lolita comm because I will literally throw up if I see my ex (I'm gay as fuck) so I'm really nervous but I want to start building my wardrobe.

I've also lost 10kgs in about three months and i'm going to start with two hours walks daily and then start bike riding and lifting. But i want to look pretty during the transition period. So I'm patiently waiting for my AATP lucky pack (first burando) and then i'm going to stare at it and hope I don't do something stupid like stretch the shirring out of my want to wear.

>> No.8015225

I have a lot of features that make me good for lolita fashion (probably because I'm partially east asian to be 100% honest) Tiny nose, huge eyes, chubby cheeks without looking like a fatty... But I assume no one gives a shit and I'm subpar because I'm darker skinned. (mixed with black and metis) I'm not super dark but looking in the mirror makes me feel like a failure. I wish there were more kawaii dark skinned asian lolitas I could look up to, my skin tone is like, super tanned east asian person.

>> No.8015226

>>8015225
Think about this! You have a great skintone for contouring and highlighting. Classical will look phenomenal on you because you can use a gold toned blush. There are black lolitas and I think that a lot of them have better facial features than white ones. This board is a bit racist, but most places are. Ignore it. Focus on the fact that omg you can use gold highlighter on your face and look like a fairy, but not an alien.

>> No.8015231

>>8015226
>>8011198 has a dark skintone (not going to be the same as yours, as she's african american and you're dark asian) but I've seen her posting coords and pictures of herself all over the place, and she's flawless. Just... adapt. You'll look amazing.

>> No.8015239

>>8011820
I've always got on best with other autistic-but-don'-seem-it people myself. As in, I got the diagnosis at 18 and when I started coming out to people about it it turned out that like three guys in my loose friendship group had been diagnosed too, all of which were on the well-liked-but-people-think-they're--eccentric-because-they're-brainy end of the spectrum. Basically the nerdy kids people actually like. There were two other blatant aspies in my school but I wasn't close friends with either because they had zero social skills. Also, +1 on getting obsessed with the nuances of human interaction...I've learnt to function a lot better than I did at 14, but it's all from studying human behaviour rather than instinctually understanding it. I don't think I'm gonna tell my comm because I don't think I've come off as weird to them yet, although I did find out one of the other girls is autistic and I kinda wanna ask her about it.

>> No.8015249

>>8014083
As a Lolita who went from 150 lbs to 115, you hit the nail on the head. I lost weight because I thought I would feel more confident and less like a whale. All that I did was make myself even more insecure, because people kept complimenting my weight loss and my coords were more popular than before (despite my style being the same). I was being treated better but I knew it was just because I was thin now, it had nothing to do with me as a person. My confidence is still paper-thin as a result.

>> No.8015252

>>8011868
Weirdly, even though it's supposed to be the ideal body for regular fashion, an S or XS waist with boobs in the M range is impossible to shop for in mainstream stores. At least in lolita blouses can be custom sized, and dresses come with corset lacing so you can size up and still emphasise your small waist. Everything mainstream either hangs loose around my waist, making me look fat, or stretched tight across the bust distorting the fabric. And that's only with an 11" difference between bust and waist, not 18" or anything crazy.

>> No.8015253

>>8015231
I am Chinese mixed with black as well as native american but for some reason my skin tone came out as super tanned asian person XD I do use gold highlighters on my undereyes and the funny thing is I get along famously with Japanese lolitas and my husband is actually Japanese as well I get the most friction from actual black lolitas and white lolitas.

>> No.8015256

>>8011932
If it's only a couple of weeks and its in winter you could just wear turtlenecks and scarves for that time until electrolysis happens.

>> No.8015269

>>8015195
I have this exactly but saggier and even more downards. I see many girls not having it and it's so fugly...no makeup makes it better

>> No.8015285

everybody hates sweet but I'm so in love with it.

>> No.8015305

>>8015285
I love sweet too anon, but only when the prints are elegant.

>> No.8015386

I'm 4'11". I'm yet to find a skirt or dress that doesn't go over my knees; they make me look so dumpy, like I have tiny, stubby legs. I would wear salopettes but I can't find any that fit me!

>> No.8015412

>>8015285
Me too anon. Sometimes I feel like the Lolita community is like a teen who hit puberty. Everybody and their cow wore sweet often OTT sweet just 2 - 3 years ago it was hot shit, but now everybody is mature wearing classic denying everything sweet and of course bashing it, because they are totally mature now. It's really like teens which deny everything they liked before puberty and bashing it, because they are totally mature now.

>> No.8015428

>>8011064
Wow i wish you the best anon i'm happy for you and hope it'll go well. Rock those cute dresses

>> No.8015442

I'm just getting into lolita at 25, and I'm worried I look old and ridiculous. I'm called a baby face anytime I'm posted here, which makes me feel a little less worried about looking like an old hag I supposed, but still, every time I see a wrinkle beginning to form in the mirror, I want to cry, and I wonder if I should just stop buying dresses now, enjoy what I have for a few months, and then move on.

Also, tall, broad shoulders, and feel like I look really fat in every photo in lolita.

>> No.8015453

>>8015249
>>8014083
Anons, first of all, congratulations on your weight loss. It's hard to lose a significant amount of weight and even harder when you're under social pressure to do it, so good job.

Here's the thing: if I have learned anything it is that there is absolutely no pleasing people who behave like shitdicks, and they aren't worth trying to please in any case. Their problem with you is 100 percent their problem. You can't base your entire self-image upon other people's perceptions and expect to be happy in this fashion. Period. Take pride in what you've accomplished, look towards your next goal, and try to stop worrying so much about shit you can't control.

>> No.8015463

>>8015442
I got into lolita when I was 26. So did my friend. She is sweet. I am classic. Neither of us care less what age we are. Yes, I do have a younger face. I get it from my parents. Great for lolita, not so good when you are managing people at work. Anyway, there are lolita who jump in at 30. We have a person in our community who is about 60+. She doesn't go to many meets, but she does own dresses. She wears classic. I want to be like her when I reach 60.

>> No.8015524

Fat and old basically.

>> No.8015554

>>8015463
I'm one of those people that jumped in (with sweet) at 30 and I still prefer sweeter styles over more mature ones although I do wear classic as well. I do look a lot more youthful than what I am and often get mistaken for early 20's to mid 20's at the oldest. There are a few fine lines and wrinkles that are starting to show up, but it's nothing that a bit of makeup and good skincare can't improve.

Also it may just be what you are wearing. I find with broad shoulders, chiffon blouses and boleros are a godsend. Just avoid puffy sleeved blouses or anything with huge peter pan collars.

>> No.8015599

My teeth. The bottom row is fine but front 6 teeth are just..fairly crooked. I hate them and refuse to smile. My parents couldn't afford braces when I was younger so, I'm 18 years old still with crooked teeth, it's beyond embarrassing.

>> No.8015614

Being a beginner again at 25 since I've only been a lolita two years when I was 16. So many things changed.
I feel old too, even if I know I'm not. Teenagers are so thin and cute, and here I am with my big butt and my swimmer's shoulders. Not fat, but muscular woman's body.
My hair are so thick I'll have to buy wigs, too.

>> No.8015615

>>8015554
You might be right. It might be what I wear. I will go to meetings and people will look straight at me and ask, "how old are you? " "How long have you been doing this?" It is sort of nice, but sometimes people do not take me seriously because I look young.

>> No.8015632

>>8015249
Welcome to a facet of thin privilege, that's just something that happens. It's a shame you can't enjoy the compliments though.

>> No.8015849

>>8011912
If you get laser hair removal (less painful than electrolysis) your hair doesn't have to "grow out". They do it on hair that was shaved in the last 24-28 hours. You'd need to stop plucking, since it works by killing the hairs in each growth cycle. If you pluck any they get "missed" and it takes more sessions to get results.

>> No.8015860

>>8011964
I don't think your height is the issue for fitting into tights. I'm 5'6" and I fit in them fine. I think it might be the size of your thighs, as you mentioned they were quite thick? Mine are about 21" around. My good friend has the same issue, very pear shaped and taller. She swears by "queen" sized tights. They might be harder to find but are defs worth looking into.

And although the media tends to make women seem hairless, it's actually more common than you think to have hair on your butt/stomach! We're mammals after all. :) I've known quite a few women with "treasure trails" and such.

>> No.8015864

>>8011994
Hmm, eating healthy isn't usually enough to slim down thighs/butt/tummy. You should at the very least incorporate some cardio a few times a week. Running/walking is good, but for thighs cycling is a godsend. Last winter I didn't have a car and my job was about a 45 min walk and not accessible by transit, so I bought a cheap bike. 15 mins twice a day 4-5 times a week made me have a thigh gap for the first time since I hit puberty. Lost at least 1.5 inches off each thigh in a few months.

>> No.8015870

>>8015860
Yeah, I have a treasure trail. It's pretty faint but it's definitely there. I also have some hair on my chest that's about the colour and texture of my eyebrow hairs. I leave it because I never wear low-cut tops, but if I was wearing a bikini or something I might feel more comfortable shaving it (even though you really can't tell from a distance). I otherwise got a lucky in the genetic lottery - dark head hair, but my leg and arm hair is blonde.

>> No.8015871

>>8015864
Did it not make your calves huge? Cycling made me lose weight overall but really bulked up my legs. I live in a hilly area though.

>> No.8015879

>>8015860
>And although the media tends to make women seem hairless, it's actually more common than you think to have hair on your butt/stomach! We're mammals after all. :) I've known quite a few women with "treasure trails" and such.

I don't think its normal for women, I have the same issue and I found out I have PCOS. It's male pattern hair growth.

>> No.8015881

>>8015871
I never noticed much of a change? Where I biked was pretty flat so I never really engaged my calf muscles that much.

>> No.8015882

>>8015615
"natural" make up (i.e. natural tones, but enough to be obvious and maybe some subtle contour) and a well fitting business suit. Even if you're baby faced as all get out, professional attire and wearing make up immediately influences people's perceptions of your age

>> No.8015886

>>8015879
Lesbian here and I'm pretty sure stomach is normal. It seems very common. But I've never met a girl with hair on her buttocks, so that does sound weird.

>> No.8015889

>>8015882
I remember reading a blog made by a petite and young-looking Asian girl on how to look older and businesslike and not get carded for 15 movies etc, and I can't for the life of me remember what it was called. Didn't bookmark it because I'm not petite myself, but she had some really solid advice on how to dress.

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>>8015879
It depends on your race/genetics, mostly. I was reading on /r/AskWomen a page asking how far their bikini lines extended and apparently for women with Mediterranean backgrounds or dark hair it can be pretty bad. Hair on the stomach/chest is normal in both genders, it's called androgenic hair.

>> No.8015896

>>8015886
It was a doctor when I was in the hospital who noticed the hair on my stomach and asked if I ever been tested for PCOS. I was later diagnosed when i went to the doctors.

>> No.8015914

>>8015896
Stomach hair =/= PCOS. Maybe the doctor was taking other symptoms into account?
The women I've seen with treasure trails definitely didn't have PCOS. They were, however, very boy-ish, lesbian, or pre-T FtM. Could be higher natural testosterone levels, or they just weren't keen on hair removal.

>> No.8015919

>>8015879
It is normal. Depends on how thick and dense you're thinking maybe.

>> No.8015929

>>8015919
Hair in a thin line (less than 2" thick) starting from the belly button and extending down to the pubic mound is normal for women, but if the hair is thicker and darker all over the whole abdomen I think it would be more of a cause for concern.

>> No.8015941

>>8011848

Yeah, my depression, anxiety, eating disorder and aspergers are a drop in the ocean but really easy to bring up in arguments. My parents are messed up because they were brought up with tough love. Like assault tough. People think all of us with these issues are mollycoddled special snowflakes when in fact it can be the opposite.

Shit I think I know exactly what you mean about the standards you hold yourself and everyone else to. You're constantly het up in social situations, hyperaware of what you're doing/saying as much as everyone else. It winds me twice as much when people do the exact same shit I fret so much over not doing to avoid repercussions. I also get anxious by proxy for other people if I know someone has reacted badly to a certain behavior when it was me exhibiting it and I'm in the room.

But yup these are the reasons I have only just joined the lolita community despite being obsessed and dressing up by myself for the last decade. It's so weird, everything is so different since the first GLB. Half of me really wants to go to meetups and half of me screams 'oh god, what have I done' the second I click 'attending'.

Oh, and being the black one that messes up the camera for photos is awkward. If you can see me everyone else is overexposed...

>> No.8015952

>>8012185
Holy shit. My waist is fractionally smaller but that chest! Damn. Have you considered going into burlesque or pinup modelling? I love all the ribbon, lace, bows and stuff in those styles as much as lolita

Your skirts must get huge to balance that out.

Pics plz?

>> No.8015973

>>8015231
Fuuuuuck. I'm not african or american but for you to use the word flawless... That means a lot to me. I had a massive knock to my confidence this week (some nasty comments at my local arcade) so I feel 1000% better.

>>8015225

Do you feel that because your asian features are evident, you look like an asian where something went 'wrong'? or something looks 'off' because you're dark? I think as many people like that juxtaposition as there are people who think you're a strange mutt or look like a cake that got left in the oven too long. I also feel self conscious about my skin tone when next to all the cute pale girls. We also tend to get told explicity not to wear pastels, but like the other anon said you can get away with golds (and also deep reds). I hope you learn to like yourself more and maybe if you build up the balls to selfpost you might be pleasantly surprised??

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I've sworn to take a break from lolita for 2015 but I keep having these overpowering urges to just sell everything I have.

I love the clothes, I really do. I've made some wonderful, beautiful friends that I love very much and I'm always blown away by how gorgeous and comfortable they seem to be in wearing pretty clothes. I struggle to feel the same way and I cover it up by having an outrageous, fun personality.

There's nothing outright awful about my appearance. It's a little sloppy because I'm still learning but as much as I love the clothes I've collected I'm feeling more and more dissociated with the fashion. It might just simply be that the current styles don't jive with me and I constantly feel disappointed by what's stylish and trending.

I'm working hard on self improvement with exercising and losing weight but I'm pretty sure I'm just going to collapse from being tired all the damn time.

>> No.8016131

>>8012186
kek

>> No.8016134

>>8008828
I just read up on it before ordering a bottle. You put it on at night (a review I read said to wait until it's completely dry before you lower your arms or else it'll itch; they recommended blow drying your under arms) and when you wake up, you wash it off. The first week, you put it on every night until you start seeing results and then you tone it down to 1-3 times a week.

I sweat really, really bad. Summer is my favorite season and it's annoying to always have to carry a jacket or cardigan with me since I'm so afraid of sweat marks showing. So here's to hoping this works.

>> No.8016137

>>8011884
seconding pics, pls

>> No.8016144

>>8015886
I personally have slight hair on my butt but it's just like the invisible, little hairs that grow on your face.
I'm not hairy by any means and don't even grow leg hair really.

>> No.8016146

>>8011964
Look at some of the aliexpress threads in the archive, especially ones that Aegull posted on. There's heaps of cute shoes that sold up to size 12 that she linked. Mostly Lolita but I'm sure some fits mori too

>> No.8016151

>>8015860
>>8015886
>>8015879

A Pcos here
I have hair on my belly, horrible long hairs on the part under your chin/neck (dunno what you call it), odd long hairs on my breasts but no moustache or butt hair. Leg hair relatively pale. Don't wanna go too TMI but I get a lot more There than normal too.

It varies person to person

>> No.8016176

>>8016144
Those invisible little hairs are normal everywhere but the palms of your hands and soles of your feet.

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>>8015973
I get called a strange mutt a lot lol. People can never tell where I'm from in some pictures I look more black and in some I look more asian. Red is def my colour but I'm attempting OTT sweet with my next coord and I am TERRIFIED. I'm just going to use a lot of golds in the coord (crystal dream in pink) and pray for the best. the pic I'm posting is me in a really old handmade dress I have gotten much better at coording since this but it's a good example of my face :I

>> No.8016380

>>8016378
You look lovely. Shoot for your dreams, Fuck the haters.

>> No.8016391

>>8016378
I try had in lolita but I always feel subpar, and like I have to work twice as hard to get half the same respect.

>> No.8016394

>>8016378
Wow, you're really cute.

>> No.8016398

>>8016378
You look black as fuck to me. Just light-skinned. I don't see the asian at all.

>> No.8016402

>>8016380
>>8016394
That means a lot to me thank you. It's just this nailed in feeling of inferiority I can't shake like I will never be kawaii ENOUGH you know?

>> No.8016406

>>8016398
yeah I get that a lot too. it varies from person to person but the only reason I'm light is because of the chinese.

>> No.8016414

>>8011964
Hey I relate to most of these.

>Ugly 2c/3a hair as well, someone said I looked ungroomed on here even though I brush my hair daily, and makeup was done.

>5'5, not technically tall enough to justify being a poor tall baby since at least normal clothes fit but AP always looks ill fit on me

>chunky arms and legs, small waist, stupid & uncomplimentry to Lolita silhouette

>22 on BMI, technically healthy but still fat looking - working on it

>big fat ugly nose, laugh lines since a teenager. Grinning only hides it but who grins in Lolita?

>voice is weirdly deep

>really yellowy skin tone, look terrible in most colours

>may as well be lumped in as man face

>I am p sure the prettier girls only take photos with me just coz they know I look bad compared to them ;-;

>> No.8016423

>>8016402
Yeah I think that's about 90% of us. We just gotta accept that some of our destinies won't fall on being dolly idol tier cute you know?
There's different kinds of cute, that's only one of them.

>>8016398
She probably looks more Asian from the front I reckon. Some girls look it with just how they do their liner. This picture she doesn't look very Asian though, which you are right aboitm

>> No.8016425

>>8016423
*about

>> No.8016432

>>8016423
for some reason only asian people seem to pick up on the fact I'm mixed with chinese. Even though I'm just as much chinese as I am black. Fuck you genetics! I ended up with a flat face and a yellow tint and a strange bridge-less nose and 0% of the cute.

>> No.8016455

>>8016378
Let us be kawaii as fuck mutts 4 ever <3

>> No.8016461

>>8016414
*cough* 3b hair here *cough*

>> No.8016603

>>8016378
I'm half Black and half Japanese and I totally get what you mean about the inferiority feeling. I absolutely love lolita but I feel constantly out of place and self-conscious when I look at what may be considered more the norm. I can't really tell where my features lie more (from what people tell me it's more toward the Japanese side) but no matter what I always feel really nervous and terrible about myself when I'm looking at other people's pictures or dressed up myself.
I do think you look absolutely adorable though and you definitely gave me the courage to say something here!

>> No.8019105

>>8016378
I took the liberty of digging around Tumblr and have to say you are really lovely. Gothic suits you!