/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8029680
Have you considered getting into handmade lolita items? It would be really neat because you can sell and wear what you make so it contributes to your wardrobe in both ways. Sewing is an acquired skill, but accessories are a good place to start.

>>8029680
>295 posts and 102 image replies omitted
>ctrl+f 'fetish'
>1 of 200 matches

>>8029680
Speaking of weeb Storenvys, I've made quite a bit off of them. I actually had a store, then sold it for $300, and then opened a new one in a new market. Later someone asked me if I could make a store for them, and I said I would for a fee. Made lots off of that too. A lot of people don't know much about domains, layout, or even finding the right drop shippers and setting up a product managing process. They'll pay you to set it all up for them.

Then on my own Storenvy store I average making $100-$200 a month. Never touch any of the products. Heh.

Any tips for opening a storenvy store? Just grab a bunch of stuff off taobao/aliexpress and dump them there, and if anyone buys run it through a ss?

I help older men deal with emotional/sexual pain after their divorces/separations. It is seriously shocking how many people will pay you to just be a cute therapist (basically). It pays pretty well and everyone I have met is kind, polite, and sometimes even cute.

There HAS to be something for us untalented hacks that doesn't want to do anything sexual for some extra pocket/burando money

>>8029895
medical studies. Let scientists do stress tests/whatevere other psych thing they're studying on you, make 15-20 an hour doing almost nothing. You can get paid even more if you do MRI stuff, sleep studies, anything that actually lets them feed you stuff or alter your patterns significantly. Look into local hospitals and university's psych departments.

>>8029680
I like this thread too.
I personally tried streaming on Twitch, did it for 9 months. Got a little money, and a partnership... not enough to survive off of. It got too stressful and it made me feel like shit for several reasons. Considering giving it another try though.

I draw and paint other lolitas in their favourite coords for money. Idk why, but the more ita they are the more they're willing to pay for this. Some pay 100+€ just to see their own face on a canvas.

>good old saving
>saving
>birthday/holiday monies

>>8029908
And what reasons are those?

>>8029908
Please tell us more. What were you streaming and the reasons for quitting?

>>8029909
Could I get a link to some of your work? It is really fun to have art of your favorite coord.

>>8029949
Stored my digital non-ita works all here: http://the-searching-one.deviantart.com

>>8029983
$100? I don't mean to insult you, you're not bad and seem to improving but currently your art is not at a level where you could actually charge that. But I guess they are that desperate.

>>8029983
Goddamn you're good. How much would a full-color cost?

>>8029983
>100+€
>for that

>>8029992
>>8030000
They pay 100+€ for traditional art, not for digital paintings. I don't even charge 50€ for digital stuff.

>>8030000
>>8029992
I bet anon knows their art isn't nearly at that level, but if she can get away with it, then good on her.

>>8030007
I wouldn't pay 100€ for my art either.

>>8029994
Depends on style and medium. Traditional art always costs extra for canvas, acrylic paint and shipping, digital paintings normally are in the range of 8$ - 20$ in case you aren't someone, who doesn't know the usual prices.

>>8030004
Ah, I see. Good on you then. Milk them itas.

>>8030022
I was thinking digital. Do you have an email where I can talk to you without derailing?

>>8030031
tso@siemalt.com

>>8029895
i know how you feel
>>8029905
that'd be great and all if that didnt seem so boring/required me to go and travel to the hospital thats 40 minutes away

>mfw I make 10K a month working very little
>Got chronic fatigue
>Got so fucking lucky with what I do because I could never have a regular job and would have to live off benefits

>>8030121
Christ, anon what do you do?

>>8030059
Sent, hope I'm not one of the itas ahaha

>>8029709
Oooh! Selling storenvy shops is a good idea! I already sell taobao stuff on that site so i know how it works. Do you create also the shop graphics when you sell a shop?

ITT: People too lazy to get entry level jobs.

>>8029887
It's possibile to do this online by chat? Seems interesting.

>>8030121
Anonette I got chronic fatigue too but am not so lucky... What did you do?
>pls tell

standard camgirl shit basically
I make about $25 dollars an hour and i do about 4-6 hours a week but my actually job pays so little, that it's extra expenses cover before luxury expenses like lolita money
you have to be willing to do a lot of fetishy stuff and have a strong personality to do make any money camming though

>>8030206
I always wonder why this is so popular.

>>8030206
Do you ever worry about your future employers finding out? Not to be cunty, but I've read that camming basically puts down 'sex worker' on your resume, so you can never get jobs working with young children, or anything like that.

Is it actually possible to make money as a writefag? I can't draw for shit, but am pretty good at writing.

Or is the only money in writing fapfics for people with, uh, unique fetishes?

>>8030163
I suppose so but It would take a lot of up keep and you spend most of your time looking for the right people who need you.

>>8030162
Or to go back to school for a few years so they can actually start a career instead of doing fetish or fandom shit for as long as that train lasts.

>>8029887
Where would you start on this?

I'm also a camgirl, but I'm doing it until I'm able to afford a car since no place will hire me because "no car" and if they do they fire me shortly after realizing "no car"

I got tired of struggling to pay for rent, and Camming makes me feel like absolute shit.
You have to pretty much appeal to your race's stereotype to do well, and its painful to put on a fake face every day.

I'm Jealous of Caucasian models though, they can be themselves.

I just want to get a car, and then afford to be able to send my ass to school. because if I get another "bb show tits" I'm going to break down.

I'm almost there too. As much as I hate it, it beats not being able to afford good food or rent.

>>8030213
the other anon, but I'm never going to put down "sex work" on my resume. I'm not that popular anyway, and I change my look drastically for camming. Only people that would realize its me are my hardcore fans- who are actually really nice and wouldn't blackmail me.

but If I ever reach that point where someone is like "hurrhurr you got naked online for money"
I can blow it off so hard and pin it down to "wow, you think all minorities look the same huh, AND are a pervert"

>>8030252
>minorities
so the stereotypes are true

>>8030252
Damn, I'm laughing so hard right now xD

>>8030257
I know!!!111!!!! EX DEEE

>>8030241
Don't worry, you'll get through it. You're better than any stereotypes, and things will work out for you!

>>8030252
If you make enough that it takes taxes, it's in the system, and employers can find it when they search you, whether or not you put it down. Just a heads up.

>>8030198
>>8030128
I sell stuff. I have to have people working for me because I can't work that much. So like, do you know how to sell things and can't work? Start something, seriously, you never know how it might turn out.

>>8029887
How'd you get in on this?

I've never tried this myself, but I knew this girl who would sort of just... scour thrift stores for random items that seem like they'd sell for a lot on etsy and storenvy or whatever and sell them at multiple times the price she paid. Like, she once sold this ugly ass 90s velour bodysuit for like $30 because she tagged it with shit like "kawaii pastel soft grunge designer lingerie." She didn't make bank or anything, but I've considered doing it too.

>>8030308
Isn't that what everyone on storenvy does? There are people selling simple plain navy swimsuits for like 40-50$ just because they look somehow a bit like the swimsuits that Japanese students wear in animes.

>>8030308
There are some pretty nice things sold in thrift stores. Once is found a really nice pair of boots that were worth around 300$, in great condition, and bought them for 8 or 12 dollars. They looked like they were worn once and just given away.

>>8030308
That's so smart man, I could do this

>>8030318
I'm obviously always looking in the wrong thrift stores .__.

>>8030319
She would just sort of cater it to the clientele. On storenvy she'd be all kawaii pastel uguu and on etsy she'd insist that everything was like, authentic vintage from the 1940s. Like honestly I've considered doing it with my old clothes just for shits and giggles

>>8029895
You can do usability testing. This site lists some options: http://www.wahadventures.com/2011/09/top-5-usability-testing-sites-earn-money-testing-out-websites.html

Never tried it myself but I know some people who have done it for a bit of extra pocket money. They say it's pretty easy but still a time sink. If you already are doing something else full-time, then I don't recommend it.

>>8030308
I've thought about doing this. Lots of thrift shops in my area have lots of things very similar to Grimoire's used dresses and pieces. I've been noticing it more and more. And they are dirt cheap.

Seconding what that anon said about doing commissions for Superwholock fandom crap.

My cousin did Supernatural and Sherlock slash while in college for side cash. She made a fair amount every month. Tumblr is a goldmine of people who will throw money at you for that crap.

Beats drawing furry porn.

>>8030448
I dunno man I got standards.

>>8030454

Over camwhoring and furry porn?

Your standards might be to high for this thread, just saying.

>>8030323
I found them in Good Will, they were by BCB Generation (?), looking at the site then i estimated that they were around $300 (i couldn't actually find them though) but looking at the site now i think they might be 100? But i don't know jack didly-hoo-hah about fashion brands and prices.

But yeah, Good Will is pretty good, but you have to look everywhere for good shit, and even sometimes find things that you can alter into new cool styles.

>>8030458
Nah over superwholock.

I do furry shit

>>8030458
Mine are, I just looked a the picture. Clicked.
Oh, cool...a brand thread.
What am I READING?
Nope and out!

>>8030458
Superwholock fans are even worse than furries, man. They're fucking lunatics and not exactly reliable customers to deal with a lot of the time. At least the furry community tends to pay for the shit they want.

>>8030491

Oh they are crazy alright. She made decent cash though so some of them were clearly paying. And given the choice I imagine drawing people fucking is less creepy than animals.

But I can't draw so fuck if I know.

>>8030507
>drawing real actors portraying characters having sex is creepier than drawing humanoid animals having sex
priorities...

>>8030294
Camsites are shady as hell and they don't tax you. you have to file your own for "self employment" also they are discreet. most high earning cam models have other jobs on top of their camming.

>>8030510
>mfw this is how I honestly feel
It's just a certain visual portrayal of characters fucking, whereas the other is bestiality.

>>8030491
furries are great when it comes to making money. bronies too. you'd be surprised how much they're willing to slap down for porn, or even just designing characters!

>>8030563
>the other is bestiality

Not really? They're animals with human proprtioned bodies or humans with animal features. It's not really bestiality unless It's 100% human with 100% animal. If I had to pick I'd side with furries because it's I just want to see these imaginary fluffy things with sexualized human features fuck versus I want to see these real male actors fuck and do other questionable things. It's actually kind of a twisted double standard alternative to the Fappening.

>>8030213
Well I dont make enough for it to be taxable and like theres no real way for them to find out because the only people with my name is the American based cam site (im English)
And idc about the kids stuff imnin the catering industry
>>8030211
Cos I have a high sex drive an existing following base of 11k on tumblr from nudes
so why not make money from it

>>8030625
This just reminded me of another reason I don't like the "SuperWhoLock" fandom. All the ships are non-hetero. What ever happened to shipping because two characters actually have, you know, chemistry? Not just the fact that they both have dicks. Could you imagine that in real life?

>Wow I have a vagina.
>Wow YOU have a vagina!
>We should totally have lesbian sex and get married! Because we both have vaginas!

But uh, more on topic. I guess I'm lucky enough that my parents kind of hate me but don't want me to hate them, so until I turn 21 and get a bank account not connected to theirs, I'm just going to keep accepting the random times they drop in $100-$200 every other week or so. Only happens when I'm away at uni, though. If I'm home they go back to not bothering with buying my love.

>>8030757
Also, to clarify, I work as well and do internship positions at a lab. So I know hard work, and still work hard for other things in life. But since my parents are throwing the money at me anyways, I use it for lolita and cons, etc.

>>8030757
Most popular ships happen because guys do have chemistry. Any form of partnership, friendship or rivalry is more chemistry than most heterosexual couples have in popular media. I don't ship that shit and many people just make bullshit up because it looks pretty but Hannibal and Will for example have 300% more chemistry than Alana and Will or Alana and Hannibal. Spock and Kirk have more chemistry than Kirk and any of the women he's boned. One of the reasons why people rush to gay ships is because female characters are bland and their relationships with males are just as bland.

>>8030784
Nothing against gay ships dude, I just meant most nut-cases in the "SuperWhoLock" side of things tend to only consider ships that are gay. Even if two characters have chemistry, they'll say it just "doesn't work" and throw a baby fit if they're not both men/women. Unless of course they make the head canon that they ~must be trans~ thus the ship becomes "okay" in their minds.
Once again, only talking about "SuperWhoLock" nut cases on Tumblr, not general fandoms.

>>8030786
Should have included in my post, this also applies when the (crazy, aka 95%) "SuperWhoLockers" discover new fandoms to infect outside of SPN, Dr. Who, or Sherlock.
Plus the amount of times I've seen tumblr try to ship Sam and one of the guys from Dr. Who (sorry, don't watch it!) just... Smh... There can't be chemistry they're not even on the same show...

>>8030162
>>8030227

It's a pretty shallow view to take anons. Where I live there are just no jobs available, anywhere, entry level or otherwise.

I'm one of those people who when can't find a job, studies. So now I have a wad of qualifications to my name, but still no jobs.

Government can't give enough to support a full time student and not all parents can/ will support students either so sometimes doing that stupid sexual stuff is a valid option for putting food on the table.

Personally I have an add in my local paper offering a dog walking service, and my weekly earnings cover my bills, with about $10 to spare. I think I would prefer to sell my panties or socks, the money is better and its less time out of my day that could be spent studying or sleeping.

>>8030219
At cons those awful "ask a character" panels are always super popular for shippy Q's. So if you attach yourself to fanfic relationship erotic fiction I think people would be interested. But i'm not sure if people will pay. Maybe if you built a name up for yourself they might.

>>8030241
Your story is really inspiring! I feel like you will be a very successful person in whatever future you pursue because you are so dedicated and work hard no matter what! Stay strong! you will achieve your goals!

>>8030786
>>8030790
I don't like shipping women because most female characters are old, tired tropes to a point that I get My Immortal flashbacks and start imagining Molly Hooper in fishnets and goff lipstick whenever I attempt to read a fanfic where one of the characters is female. They're either innocent wee manic pixies/shy girls, or if it's a 'strong' female character she's always oversexed to all fuck and ridiculous (see: Irene Adler). I don't get any satisfaction in shipping the two characters when I always want to punch one of them, y'know?

Meanwhile the main male characters in a show are always awful Gary Stus but they have enough screen time to develop at least a tiny bit of personality. And the main character and sidekick are always present, plus both of them are at least portrayed as people so it's natural that people in the fandom will start shipping them over male protagonist + generic sexy lamp love interest. It's why people latch onto characters like Moriarty for their ships, because they're more fun and less... insulting?

>>8030827
I have no idea why you're still defending yourself...? I never insulted you or how you ship? Let me remind you, I'm talking about the people who ship with the ONLY reason for ship being that they both have the same genetalia.

You ship for chemistry? Great, that's what I'm trying to advocate here.

Not to mention, it might just be the shows you're watching? I've seen plenty of shows and read plenty of books where the female characters are developed and their own person, without falling into stereotypes. I personally ship pretty much whatever, man and woman, woman and woman, man and man, and if I ever watch a show/read a book with none of the above but they have major chemistry with another character? Holy hell I'll probably ship it.

tl;dr We're basically saying the same things. Why do you keep trying defending yourself when no one has disagreed with you?

>>8030808

Then I have to ask what kind of qualifications and do you have practical experience to back it up or are you use paper certified? If you have time, you should look for an internship or work as a part time volunteer for the experience. There is always the slim chance of getting picked up for real work but if not you have practical experience for your resume.

>>8030829
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound overly defensive. Also I'm not either of those anons.
It's just that when I say I don't prefer shipping female characters (which is ultimately my own preference) people jump on me and yell "INTERNALISED MISOGYNY!!!" and give me shit for it because they don't understand someone else's preferences.

I wasn't disagreeing with you either, just adding onto what you said.

>>8030808

Then I have to ask what kind of qualifications and do you have practical experience to back it up or are you just paper certified/qualified? If you have time, you should look for an internship or work as a part time volunteer for the experience. There is always the slim chance of getting picked up for real work but if not you have practical experience for your resume.

>>8030219
ad revenue from a blog, maybe?

This might sound weird, but I never actually looked into store envy til this thread... what makes it different from etsy?

>>8030784

This.

Superwholock is crazy dumb but heterosexual relationships in half the shows tumblrtards obsess over are as bland as cardboard because the women are written like shit.

I don't get why people want all these guys who are from different shows to bone, but I totally get the complaint the the male leads often have more chemestry with each other than with the prop girlfriends who are cycled in and out each season.

It's like tumblr almost had a good point. Almost. And then they ruined it by being retarded.

>>8030832
Ah sorry, I just assumed you were the same anon which is why it sounded kinda defensiveto me. But I get you, a lot of big-time TV shows tend to give women non-interesting roles and flat characters. There's some other TV shows that don't, but I'm guessing because of budget/story they just don't catch on as much.

The people who give you shit sound like nut-jobs, to be honest. If you gave them the same reasoning you gave me it pretty much squashes any semblance of internalized misogyny.

>>8030843
I'm
>>8030844
>>8030829
>>8030786
>>8030757
(praying I quoted right, so many...)

But thanks the way you worded it is a lot better. I was referencing more so to the crazy superwholock people.

>>8030837
>>8030219
I feel like we should bring those Blogspot circles back. People made a shit ton of money on those.

>>8030849
I don't think they do that anymore, I think you have to have your own domain or something.

>>8030852
You're still able to run ads on there without a domain.

>>8030300
>>8030234
I'm pretty young (20) but I've always been able to connect with older men and women easily. That coupled with the fact that I am very sexually adventurous and knowledgable it just happened. I met one older guy who eventually became a friend and he helped me find other guys that would be interested in meeting me. So far I am chatting with two millionaires every other day who pay me 2k a piece. It's a big commitment and balancing it with college is hard but I have managed. I am using almost all of the money I earn to pay for school, the rest I can spend on stuff like dresses.

>>8030971
So you're basically an escort/sugaring. You can say it, we won't judge.

I'm a stripper. I make 1.5k a week easily working only 3 days. It's hard, hard work. My knees ache and I occasionally have days where work is the last thing I want to do and have to get piss drunk to even talk to guys but it's fun and pays for everything I need, luxuries and savings easily.

>>8030992
are you extra cute, average cute, or below average?

You know your rank in the strip club, I'm just curious if 1.5k is because you are top tier or if that's what most girls make there.

I've actually been into anthros since middle school, so drawing furries for money sounds fun. I also like drawing hentai, like normal anime style hentai. Should I keep accounts for these separate?

What's the best way to get attention on tumblr? Pander to the popular fandoms?

>>8029931
>>8029928
I was streaming League of legends, WoW, and sometimes GTA 5. I quit because I got stressed out after getting a partnership trying to get my viewers up and keeping people entertained and people still complaining.. it took the fun out of playing games. Especially since you have to play ones that'll give some type of views. Games I actually love I can't play on stream unless I want like no viewers.
for example you could blow your nose because you're sick and bam -10 viewers.
It makes me feel self conscious, and the constant insults get to be a bit much.
I tried to have fun with it and fuck around with youtube videos and stuff... but the negativity got to me.
You sit there with people everywhere saying "Oh pretty girl streamers make good money" and then you see it for yourself that it's true.. people who have streamed 1/3 of the time you did..
sitting there making bank, while you're just still sitting there making not even enough money to pay your rent with. Yet you sit there trying to entertain everyone and try to be positive.
It made me feel so ugly. If people say something enough to you, you'll eventually believe it. People say shit from retard to straight up ass hole. It's hard to deal with people pointing out your flaws and calling you names. It brought back feelings from when I was bullied from 1st grade through 9th grade.
Even if you look at it from a "Streaming for fun" perspective it's not fun when people act retarded in your chat all the time and take everything you do very serious even when it's obviously joking.

I know some people in here have similar feelings with being a cam girl as I do with streaming, how you have to act a certain way at times and feeling like shit.

>>8031094

Pandering to popular fandoms will gain you tons of followers from those fandoms, but that only does you any good if you are selling fandom art.

First find out what tags your target demographic uses. I reccomend separate blogs for furies versus hentai, the two groups may not want to mix. Start posting original content ASAP and tag the shit out of it.

Another great way to get your name out is find out who the big name blogs in your demographic are. The ones that don't post OC but just reblog stuff and have 10k followers. Follow their blogs, get a sense of what they like, and dedicate some really good art to them as a surprise since they are one of your "favorite blogs". They will reblog your art and bam, their 10k followers start reblogging and you will gain countless followers and free beginner e-fame overnight. Keep doing that, rinse and repeat until you have a good client base and name in the community.

Has anyone ever thought/tried of selling their eggs?

>>8031134
There are requirements for that.
Good genes no bad habbits (drugs drinking) be good looking education and not feeling bad about having a kid in the world that you're never going to see.

>>8031134
that's bullshit. at least in my country looks and education don't matter, as long as you are healthy, have no hereditary diseases and accept that the child is allowed to know your name and who you are.

>>8031141
>>8031138
misfired
also it hurts a lot

>>8031141
That's still a lot to take in.

>>8030252
>but I'm never going to put down "sex work" on my resume
>Only people that would realize its me are my hardcore fans- who are actually really nice and wouldn't blackmail me.

oh...honey. No one puts down sex worker on a resume. If someone does a background check on you and even remotely thinks you did camwhoring, they won't ask you about it, they'll throw your shit in the trash.

>>8031154
How do they even check something like that?

>>8031154
>Oh honey
>>8031159
They don't. People usually don't know unless the girl is really big. I've heard of camgirls going on to become teachers with their only trouble being blackmailed by horny dads for sex.
even ex-pornstars can get jobs.
Sounds like OP is a low quality cam model though (not that big)

>>8031159

There is always that one person who watches way to much porn who recognizes someone and can't wait to spread that shit around.

> freshman year in college dorm member find porn clip of girl who look seriously like my twin
> almost overnight entire dorm plus all my friends have seen it and think I did porn/cam whoring/whatever
> thank God girl in clip had a tattoo above her bikini line so I could prove that wasn't me

>>8031198
That's crazy! I kind of want to see side by side comparison.

>>8031210
>>8031198
there were some gay pornstars who had their facebook profiles found by some crazy stalkers. You never know who's watching and how obsessed they may be. Like I've legit seen people stalk a porn actor irl just to spread gossip about them online.

I tint car windows for $50-250 depending what windows the customer wants tinted.
I use Suntek Carbon legal state film.
I advertise on local car forums, craigslist, ebay, tumblr, twitter, fb, instagram, flickr, youtube, and car shows, etc.
I consider myself a professional and a perfectionist since I have been doing this for 9 years.
My father and brother taught me cause I was small and flexible and they sucked at it because they have no patience.
Window tint keeps me looking youthful.

>>8031225
I wish I had skills like this
I only am able to buy things and resell it for a small profit.

>>8031210

Not a crazy as you think. Statistically there is a high probablity that out of the billions of people on earth there are several people at any given time who look really similar to you (you can bet I researched this shit after that). And esp for girls makeup can add to the similarities.

I was just unlucky enough that my look alike did porn.

>>8031130
Any recommendations for tumblrs both furry and not?

How do I go about marrying a rich Arab dude (or any wealthy male at all)?

>>8031264
move to Singapore. 1/6 are millionaires

>>8031230
I haven't found my look a like yet, It's easier if you're like one ethnicity. Finding 2 asians or mexicans that look alike isn't hard.

>>8031271
well, at least you don't look like a gay man
>tfw apparently I do

>>8031247

Sorry, not a furry. I am more on the Game of Thrones, Hannibal, and LotR side of tumblr....but the advice should crossover. People still make good money off commissions in my demographic and it is nowhere near the size of more popular fandoms or furies.

A good fast way to figure out what the popular blogs are without a ton of lurking is to search the tags of your target demographic. Find recent art posts with about 2-5k+ likes/reblogs (anything higher might be too old and widespread) and check the reblog history for patterns. There will usually be one or two blogs earlier on where over half the reblogs originated from. Those are the blogs to check out, follow, and suck up to. Keep a list of the names that seem to appear a lot and keep searching through more art posts to cross reference your findings. Finally, popular blogs usually follow other big name blogs, so once you find one big name check out their tumblr and see who they frequently reblog from. Chances are those blogs are well known as well.

After a week of doing this you should have a pretty good idea of what blogs are super popular in your demographic.

Just make sure you are searching under the right tags. A lot of time specific content, especially NSFW art has very specific tags. You might have to lurk a while and pay attention to the tags used before you get a handle on the tags you need to search.

>>8031323
Stealing your advice for my 'kawaii' fashion, art and anime blog. Technique seems pretty golden.

>>8031389
I do a lazier version of that for my blog (pretty much same type as yours) and it really does work well. I think if I actually tried I'd be getting more, but I just started being active again and I've gained about 500 in ~a month or so. Once again, with a lazy simplified version because I can't be bothered, I'm sure if you really applied yourself you'll get a ton even with a cute fashion/art/anime/whatever blog.

>>8031411
I got about 400 followers just from posting an artsy gif on halloween and tagging appropriately.

>>8031434
Yeah I never post original content, though. Part of why my method is lazy. (Although when I used to post a lot more lolita selfies/coord shots I would get ~100-200 followers per. I lost most of my followers when I went inactive for almost a year, though, haha.)

>tfw I make almost $700 a month selling pot around my college campus

>>8031088
I'm above average in looks and make-up, hair and club lighting definitely helps. I'm not stick thin but 26.5in waist at 5'5 so I'm not actually fat either. I make more than most girls at my club but it's definitely easy to make over $1000 a week if you're not hideous and try hard. The very, very top earning girls at my club make about 2k a week but they've been doing this for far, far longer than I have and are a lot better at spotting time wasters/stage work.

>>8031463
I feel like my pride is holding me back honestly.
>basically a kawaii blog
>refuses to use the 'kawaii' tag on my stuff

One look at my dA watchers and most are obvious weebs so I probably should make my stuff more accessible to them with weeby tags.
I'm probably going to break down and use it eventually.

Running some cost vs. benefits on making fanart of popular blogs where I don't actually like the blog owner's personality is conflicting as I don't know if they'd actually bother to share it
>fanart of petitepasserine's shitty OC
>fanart of anzujaamu

The drawings would be cute at least.

>>8031551
Ahh yeah I know how you feel. I can't use "kawaii" on any of my stuff, either. It makes me feel pretentious.
anzujaamu is so cute to me, I try to ignore her personality because she is my ideal look.
Uh, I kinda sidetracked there, but I'm sure people who share your opinion probably will be able to figure out what you're doing but not say anything (probably wish they had the guts to do it themselves) and the people who think she's a goddess among mortals will think you're the kawaii-shit for drawing a picture of her.

>>8031566
Let's be kawaii friends anon. But yeah I might as we draw them, I need to be more active anyway. I'll probably self-compromise by drawing people I legitimately like first.

I don't completely dislike anzujaamu just somethings about her rub me the wrong way. It could be her lack of personality that I dislike with the bonus points of her constantly reblogging her own posts, her trying to upload selfies to deviantART etc.

I just started camming and also want to get into selling undies, but I don't want people to know what state it's coming from (because I lie and say I'm from somewhere else). Is there any way to do this? The only thing I can think of is finding a reliable middle man in my fake state to ship things out for me.

>>8031605
Yeah she's always seemed flat to me, I try to give her the benefit of the doubt because she is cute and maybe she just doesn't like showing too much of herself online? (Well, besides pictures)

And yes, we shall become kawaii friends who kissass in the name of followers for our kawaii blogs.
Priorities. We have them.

>>8031434
I did this, that little gif now has 25k notes and people will occasionally follow me because of that

>>8030752
Because being a whore isn't something to be proud of?

>>8031646
Idc what people think about what I do, I'm literally masturbating for money it's fucking ace

>>8031625
>Just started
I don't know why anyone would willingly get into camming.
if you're starving and can't pay rent, whatever, but when people go into camming because "lol I heard its easy money! " it irritates me to no end, why would you destroy your life like that when you have other options.

>>8031625
I doubt people buying panties are going to care enough to look at the postage stamps and hunt for what state you're from

>>8031651
"destroy your life" there are so many cam girls and ex cam girls out there do you seriously think all these thousands of girls have their lives fucked over? seriously like nobody finds out unless you give out your name

>>8031625
>>8031652
>Even worrying about identity on a state level.
Christ, some people are genuinely paranoid.

>>8031551
>>8031566

When getting the attention of the larger blog with your kiss-ass art don't send it to them. Create your art, post it on your tumblr and tag them in it using their name in the post by @inserttheirnamehere - then send them a pm letting them know you love their blog so much you created some cute art for them and here is the url for the post.

That way they will like it and reblog on their blog and probably gush about how awesome you are. If you pm them and send the art via email they won't post it on their own. It's unwritten tumblr etiquette that reposting someone else's art is rude.

Cosplaying has become a business for many people, all of which want special treatment for their work which is natural, but they could be easily doing the same thing at another job and be making more income. With so many cheaper hotter models stripping for cash that can replace you in a second, it's financially irresponsible to expect others to pay for your shit because, tits. Getting disturbed at the amount of women in the sex industry being cosplayers. If you feel like you have to hide it, or are ashamed of it, why the hell are you doing it? There are already camwhores who aren't afraid of becoming famous by sucking dick. Your days are numbered. Best get the sharpie up your pooper quick before a wave of younger escorts steal your "job".

>>8029680
I have a loli friend that I fuck. Sometimes I buy her outfits (including brand) to fuck her in.

It's just the usual sugar daddy setup I suppose. If the burando gets fucked up during the act I just buy another one.

>tfw learned the basics of loli and some brands just from doing this, and it ain't even my fetish

>>8031672
>buys her brand to fuck her in.
>"not even my fetish."
If you're trying that hard. It is M8. Or hers. Either way it's making our hobby shady as fuck.

>>8031680
Not that anon, but honestly as long as they're not super public about it I don't mind, people on /cgl/ know what lolita really is. I think they only way it can affect the general opinion on the fashion is if they try to brag or something on a normal site like facebook. Or, god forbid, to other people in person.

>>8031672

>If the burando gets fucked up during the act I just buy another one.

Calling bullshit.

Lolita sells in releases. Once a release is over, getting your hands on that same dress again in the same cut and color-way after you sold it or fucked it up can be a royal pain in the ass and often involves hardcore hunting on the sales comm and auctions for months.

You are either trolling or buying her cheap Bodyline F+F shit.

Nice try.

>>8031650
Have fun writing that on a resume, oh wait. You're still in the delusion you'll be able to keep fapping forever for income. Top kek.

>inb4 you'll get a job after and there definitely won't be repercussions!
If you listen carefully, /b/ is laughing at your arrogance.

>>8031692
wtf has /b/ got to do with this
and you're acting like I don't have a job on top of this, if you actually read my posts you'd see I already work in the catering industry

>>8031684
I'd prefer it not to be public at all. I can't wear lolita without someone assuming age play. And glorifying/supporting pedophiles is sick.

>>8031699
I think /cgl/ is barely public. But hey, to each his own. But I think you're a bit confused as to what pedophilia is. Don't get me wrong pedophilia is sick, illegal, and one of the most disgusting things on earth. But ageplay is not pedophilia. It's not my cup of tea and makes me cringe, but if somebody likes it...? Well good for them. Just keep it in the bedroom, don't parade it around the streets.

>>8031697
I get it. You're the proud slut with no shame. Except that you already said your trying to hide your name. Implying you're scared of being found out. Why is /b/ relevant? Lurk moar newfag whore.

>>8031711
Cgl has never supported ageplay. If that's why cgl is turning into, then fuck this hobby.

>>8031719
could you possibly sound more like a 12 year old? just because I'm not scared doesn't mean im going to rub it in peoples faces
No seriously why is /b/ relevant, is anonymous gonna hunt down my employers oh no~!

>>8031725
I never said it supported it...? Just said an entirely anonymous board is barely public. I'm getting the feeling you're not even reading what I'm writing, but if you're willing to give up a hobby you've invested a lot of time and money into just because some people out there have a fetish that's not YOUR fetish... Well, go ahead. I'm not gonna actively support it, but I'm not going to shit on it either just because I don't like it.

I do alternate modeling sometimes soft core.

>>8031719

I was more so commenting on the ones who are actually concerned about blackmail. If that's a fear of yours, you shouldn't be in the sex industry. Simple as that. Lots of defensive sluts up in here. I just feel if you loved your job legit, you wouldn't be wasting your time in here trying to defend it like masturbating in front of the camera all day is normal.

>>8031770
>I'm right, go away

>>8031469
thanks anon!

>>8031661
risk vs reward is sometimes worth it to be paranoid. Stalkers can literally ruin your life more than just camwhoring.

>>8031672
Are you the troll anon that claimed to be a loli that got 15 rare burando dresses for christmas then wanted to leave him because they weren't your style? I think I'm starting to see patterns in your work.

>>8031811
Pornstars agree. You have to love sex in order to succeed even remotely in the whoring business. Why are you so butthurt?

>>8031719
>I TROLL U

>>8031672
Are you the troll anon that claimed to be a loli that got 15 rare burando dresses for christmas from your boyfriend then wanted to leave him because they weren't your style? I think I'm starting to see patterns in your work.

>>8029680
I just browsed /biz/ since those guys are all into financial shit and may have some tips. However, they either argue about bitcoins or are simply insufferable...

So the majority of cosplayers and lolita are camwhores? When did this happen?

>>8029680

>>8031872
In your mind, you conclusion jumping bean

Praise your queen.

>>8031867
I still go on /biz/ anyway, but I know exactly what you mean.

>>8030849
>>8030852
>>8030863
What were the blogspot circles? I hear people talking about them occasionally, but Google never turns up anything.

I think camwhoring is an extremely acceptable, capitalist thing to do. It's selling good feelings to willing buyers. In fact, I find it better than McDonald's selling artery clogging trash to billions of people.

>>8031883
How so? The only relevant cosplayers come from doing erotica, stripping or escorting. This is not new information.

>>8031906
You said it yourself, "relevant cosplayers". By simple rules of "fame", there are multiplicities more irrelevant ones that cosplay and aren't whores. Therefore, the answer to your question is "no".

>>8031884
>tfw didn't take that dominatrix job offer
oh well, even though i would be making men miserable for cash which sounds amazing i just couldn't deal with the thought of the judgement that comes with the job

>>8031895
Until husbands, boyfriends, their families are cool with it, there will always be a rift.

>>8031895
Only a camwhore could rationalize objectifying herself for a few dollars and compare it to a startup job like fast food in which people make a choice to buy. It's called getting a skill or a degree if you hate grunt level jobs.

>>8031921
>oh boy here we go

>>8031911
>There are ones that aren't whores!
Easy way to dodge the problem. Everyone wants to be the next Jnig, stfu and accept it. Kek.

>>8031921
That would require getting out of bed anon.

>>8031921
making money off of idiot men is great
my friend makes $3k a week sometimes
she's fine with her life and i think she, as well as anyone else who wants to do that, should be able to do what they want without having internet tumblradfem hambeasts pout at them for it because they decided to become a wageslave until their degree kicks in

>>8031651
I agree with you halfway. While I don't think that camming is ever gonna destroy anyone's life (J.Law seems to be doing fine considering there are literally facial pics of her on the internet), I don't get how anyone could get into it knowing the clientele.

Like yeah yeah, everyone says it's just "nice old men" but some fetish crap (like, sissy shit) just weirds me out.

>>8031128
Huh, that's so weird to my own experience... I had a lot of fun streaming and within a month I averaged about 30-40 people per stream, I only streamed about twice a week since I work full time.
Everyone was nice to me and funny, apart from maybe twice when 2 obvious little kids started the whole "wow ur a grill and u play games :^)" "ur so skilled cuz ur a girl :^)" shit in my chat, and someone else typing sexual stuff to me in german... but idk, everyone else in the chat told them to fuck off and I just banned them pretty much instantly so I didn't care. That was literally it, never had a problem otherwise.
You really do have to be very bubbly and chatty though or no one will watch. Which tbh is understandable I guess. The games are limited too. I play pokemon competitively so that's pretty much all I streamed and had viewer battles/shiny hunting, when I tried other games you get almost no attention. Which is a hard situation in and of itself because those limited games are saturated as fuck so it's hard to get attention.
I haven't streamed in a while since I've been so busy with work/christmas and streaming regularly is only viable if you're not a sleepy person like I am, so I don't think I'll keep pursuing it with the intention of making a living, only for fun when I feel like it. You really have to be willing to chat about nothing 24/7 and stick to your regular schedule for it to work out for you.

I'm fairly popular on dA and have always been able to make a fair bit of money through commissions so I think if I'm looking to do something like this again I might think of going down the furry route... Does furaffinity have a higher market? I would say my skill would be in the higher bracket for most of the art I've seen on FA, I usually charge about €30-50 for an illust on dA, how much would I be able to charge on FA if I was in the higher bracket? I've seen people charging over €100 per picture but I really can't see that being even remotely average.

Stupid whores. When you allow yourself to become an object that we're paying for, you get to eat criticism whether you like it or not. That's apart of the job and you put yourself in that position. Every whore wants respect but it's hard to do that when there's a video of you choking on dick.

>>8031938
idk anon i'm very skeptical of anyone who claims to make bank doing sex work. i really doubt she's making 3k/week (which i really doubt - i have friends who have worked in the sex work industry who were working with legit companies and they didn't make that), and if she is, how long is it gonna last? either someone hotter is gonna come along and her fans are gonna flock to her, or she's gonna start getting old/fat/whatever and she's gonna have to find a new job because it won't pay as much as it used to. at least the "tumblr hambeasts" with degrees are gonna get paid a consistent wage (hopefully including benefits) because let's be real they're getting paid for their skill not for how hot they are.

again, i'm not trying to be judgey-judgey and i wish your friend the best of luck but camming is a temporary way to make fast cash at best, don't try to make it sound like it's more than it is.

>>8031954
Seems like minority camming anon wants to kill herself, lol

>>8031960
I did have a schedule. I did everything I could and it still wasn't good enough. I streamed everyday at that. I streamed consistently almost everyday for 9 months for 2-12 hours.

Can we get back to the original topic?

why would you ever whore yourself for dresses.... get your priorities and scraps of your dignity together

>>8031988
if you think that's how it works you don't actually know much tbh, there is no "until someone hotter comes along"
she's made a career of it, camwhoring isn't simply "oh i'm gonna show off my chonies on cam and touch my coochie for the dirty boys"
camwhores also sell clips, if you upload fetish clips once a week or even once a day, you can get a lot of traffic to your page and make that $$$
it also has little to do with being "hot", even fatty-chan hambeasts can make money camwhoring
yes, they have to work harder but they can still make good money
she has an apartment, pays her bills, etc.
she's also saving up to pay for her school, because not everybody can just decide to sign up for a community college and start learning
pretty swell idea but also not how it works at all

>>8032027
women
>sexually confident
>make money off of it
>omg such a whore u have no dignity or shame do u???

men
>sexually confident
>make money off of it
>le BROFIST LIVIN DE DREAM

but like its not a problem tho bz i totally see it both ways right guys

>>8032038
Why would you even reply to something that is such obvious bait. And even if it wasn't, people to think and talk like that already have their ways set in stone.

>>8032038
>b-b-but men do...

you're still a whore

>>8032060
Could you define what a whore is? Does showing cleavage make you a whore?

>>8032073
Let's go with
>sexually confident
>make money off of it

>>8032079
I'm a different anon. So you're saying if someone "Cam'd" in anyway but only showed cleavage that makes you a whore?

>>8032024
This.

Im going to start new tumblrs tonight and following the advice given above.

I want to start posting racy pics with no face along with my art, but I don't know how well that would go.

>>8032084
You can easily check yourself.

Does the scenario fall under
>sexually confident
>make money off of it
?

Then yes, it makes you a whore.

>>8032094
But in that case anyone who goes to work even if it's mcdonalds and has clevage is a whore?

>>8032036
>there is no "until someone hotter comes along"

I think the other anon meant your income will decrease when someone hotter comes along and she is probably in her peak years right now, which is correct.
She can still make money from fetish stuff like being fat or old but it's not as much as being in the mainstream stuff.

>>8032097
No no, you're going through the complicated two-point checklist wrong.

I'll guide you through it.

Ok, let's assume you work at mcdonalds with cleavage out.
>>sexually confident
Yes.

>>make money off of it
That's a miss. You make money off the job, regardless of cleavage.

If you have troubles with the checklist again, just ask.

>>8031997
Maybe you were just boring or ugly?

>>8032097
That doesn't follow.

Whores are, by definition, people who make money with sexual things.

>>8031997
it depends on the site, you really need to learn what the site expects, sites like chaturbate want goals and kenos etc where as mfc want a girl who'' literally sit there and talk solid for a really long time before giving any money
it's not a case of sitting there as long as possible it's about being interesting and finding sites that fit you

>>8032038
the difference between women and men is men dont have to strip naked to have authority and power. women do it because its the easiest thing they can do.

>>8032114
She was talking about twitch which is a game streaming site anon, but the same logic applies. The main appeal is the facecam and streamers, people don't go there just to watch gameplay, they want the streamer to make it interesting.

>>8032107
Yeah that's how I felt and currently feel about myself because of that. I'm told I'm ugly by my chat but they say some stupid shit too.
>>8032114
Well it was twitch.tv which is video games
>>8032124
I tried though and the thing is other streamers will sit there and not play a single game all day and talk to their chat and get more views and money. It's frustrating to see if you're a streamer that's not doing good.

>>8032119
No, only stupid people do that of both genders. Women don't need to either.

>>8032133
Twitch is absolute shit for monetary gain.

People who make money with it make it by connecting it to their youtube account, like uploading highlights and such there.
Youtube gives you SO much more money.

Try it. Main focus on youtube shit where you talk to your stream viewers. Streaming should just be your means to get people to give you views on youtube, since ad deals are much better on there.

>>8032119
Then why do men do it so much for free?

>>8032135
That's an interesting pov but I sort of tried that too but youtube didn't pay me. Not 100% sure how it works with youtube aside from the fact you get money from ads, but everyone can't run ads right? I'm pretty sure youtube has to partner you or some shit.

>>8032135
Also to add on, a lot of streamers with streaming alone make enough money to live off of.

>>8032152
Not even with ads but with the donations is what I mean.

>>8032092
It depends on how "racy". Are we talking full nude, baiting/sex, fetish outfits, lingerie or what. Granted, there are plenty of people interested in all of that, but some can be more lucrative than others.

>>8032148
>>8032133

You're probably just not acting very interesting or funny. You have to remember that you're in a saturated market so you have to pick a niche and set yourself apart. I dressed in cosplay/seifuku when I streamed and it attracted people to my stream, people would come in asking why I was cosplaying or complimented me, then hung around after chatting to me for a while. If you feel like getting your titties out that works for most people too. You have to think what would make someone want to check out my stream from the thumbnail. It is a lot of work and personally I found it emotionally/mentally draining since I am not a very social person so while I could do it easily I didn't feel it was worth it for me. You can't just sit there and not entertain your audience while expecting donations, you have to really put yourself out there and work. If no one is sticking around and you're not getting donations then you're doing something wrong.
As for youtube, building an audience takes time... you get partnered at about 1,000 subs and that is when you can start making some money. But again it is a ton of work. The pay off tends to be worth it if you can do it.

>>8032060
Whores don't like being called whores. Strippers don't like being called strippers and prostitutes prefer being called escorts.
This indicates to me, they're all in denial and live a life of shame.

Alright- where would one start reselling Taobao/cheap eBay shit onto Storenvy? Would you have to have the taobao purchased before you start the store (shipping times/shopping services/etc.)? Is there even a good markup for shit like this?

>>8032193
citation needed

I just think it's too risky to do cam shit. It's like that one lolita trip who used to post here and turned out to be camming in her dresses. She made a thread on /soc/(?) with pictures and people saved them, recognized her, and posted them all over the place. I still see them pop up occasionally on other boards. Same shit happened with Charms and she crossed the line into lolcow territory.

>>8032261
That's why you don't talk about your camming shit here. Or if you do, don't post pics of yourself.

>>8032181
I have 1k subs with no partnership though and yeah you're right but like I said I did try but I coudln't think of anything unique enough.
It feels shitty when you don't succeed like this

>>8032316
ignore my typo.

>>8032316
Well like... it's understandable though? If you can't think of anything to set you apart how can you be sad or think it's unfair that you didn't succeed...?
You have to apply for partnership. I have over 1k subs now but when I was at about 800 I got asked if I wanted to partner. You can also manually apply. But my videos always got consistent views, if yours didn't that's probably why.

>>8032655
If you're a partner do they let you use Youtube Space LA/NY etc?

Seems like the exclusive youtube club.

>>8032655
I mean I DID try a few things.. Like I tried being an obnoxious lil cunt and that seemed to work but that got tiring. Was funny as fuck to me though
But it hurt to know that being myself didn't get me viewers.

>>8031128
what rank were you in league when you started streaming?

Why don't you guys work toward real jobs? Like it's nice to fantasize about making it big on Twitch or mycamgirl but it's kind of a lottery and a lot of work. I don't see them as being much different than pyramid schemes/MLM shit like Amway. Yeah the people at the top make like $1m and don't do much work but obviously ever dumbass that gets into it isn't going to make and there is no reason to think you would be one of the special ones.
Instead of wasting your life on one retarded scheme after another, go take some classes. learn how to program. It really doesn't take that much time and opens up SO MANY JOBS. Like literally I self taught myself HTML in *middle school* and it's still dead useful on resumes. There are lots of classes you can take online and if you can actually demonstrate the knowledge to emplyers you CAN get a job, maybe it won't be at goldman sachs but you will get a job somewhere.

>>8032744
I'm in school for a real career right now and I also work. What's wrong with trying to make some extra money?

I alter magic cards and draw on playmats for various TCGs. I sometimes do small drawstreams (no money involved for the last one, just for fun.) pic related

>>8032749
Because it's a massive waste of time. I have seen so many of these threads over the years and no one can really own up to actually making any money off of any of it. The ones that do usually got in really early. You would be so much better off building up a skill to put on your resume for a (possibly paid) summer internship than you would spending 3 months streaming video games hoping some neckbeards will throw you a few bucks. Any of this get rich quick stuff is basically massive bait for gullible people, I have no idea why people are still falling for it. When they do make money it's practically negligible for the amount of work they've had to put in.

>>8032749

Not all side jobs are equal. Most of the suggestions are really just attempts to monetize a hobby. If you seriously want to try to make money then you have to treat it like a business rather than just doing things that appeal to you.

>>8032758
It's not get rich quick schemes though, it's more like things that can make you an extra $100+ a month. A lot of the suggestions in this thread are things like do art commissions or set up a store.

>>8032761

Those can work but in general there is a fairly high failure rate and it takes a long time to build a client base. If you're just trying to make extra money in the short term it's not ideal.

>>8032761
Art commissions.. oh boy. I guess if you're an art student, you don't' have much a future anyway, so it probably doesn't matter how you spend your time.
Setting up a store is also a retarded waste of time for most people. >>8032760 hit the nail on the head with the monetizing a hobby vs. running a business.

>>8032765
Yeah, if you are trying to make money in the short term your best bet is honestly to just go get a job at mcdonalds. If you want money long term there are way better things to do than "set up storenvy" and "take art commissions"
I mean, shit, I actually have pretty extensive experience in online sales and I'm still only about as successful on storenvy as the anon who posted about making $100-$200. And I dont' really even consider that worth anything.

>>8032765
>>8032768
I can see your points, but I still don't find the thread or ideas really harmful. I'm personally a STEM major, not an art major or anything like that, and I've done some of the things suggested in this thread to pay my bills in the past. I think the most I made in any one month was $600, and it was very inconsistent money.

>>8032744
I'm saving so that when I do figure out what real job I want to do, I can study without having to worry about a student loan or anything.

>>8032778

Honestly the best bet for college students is offering tutoring services for freshmen and high school students. Most tutors charge at least $15/hr.

>>8032796

If you're not being financially supported, I think you should consider starting with a two-year degree in a trade. You'll satisfy some of the requirements for your general ed. requirements and your degree will help you get a better than minimum wage position while you're going for your 4 year degree. Furthermore, while you're working on your 2 year degree you can go for an on campus job which will likely pay better than anything you'll find off campus or at least give you study time.

>>8032798
I used to do that, can't handle the anxiety anymore. Spending one-on-one time with people like that gets me so worked up my body temperature rises and I get all rashy and sick. It sucks because people always told me I was really good at tutoring and was clear and thorough.

>>8032806
Oh, but it's still a good suggestion for other people. Should have said that in my first post. Some suggestions for when I did it would be to post on message boards around your school or other public spots where you can post things to be seen and to utilize younger friends/your parents to put yourself out there. Your parents can talk to workmates/other parent friends to see if they want tutoring for their kids, and younger friends may know other people that are seeking out tutoring themselves. When you actually get a tutoring job, make sure you know timeframe, location, and the specifics of what needs to be taught. It's a good idea to try and get a feel for the student with their problem/good areas so you can be more effective in your lessons and don't be afraid to change tactics if they don't understand. People have different ways that learning clicks for them.

>>8032806

That's a real problem, being able to work with other people in all sorts of situations is a critical life skill both personally and professionally. Consider taking an intro class in communication or public speaking. You can usually apply them towards general ed. and may be able to open up some doors for you.

>>8032821
I have something called neuropsychiatric systemic lupus erythematosus, it's what causes my anxiety. Only thing that helps is medication, but it can't fix me. I'm actually really good at public speaking, I used to give speeches and act/sing on stage when I was younger. I can also fake my way through one-on-one for a little while, but it's torturous. I've also already taking Fundamentals of Speech, the public speaking class, and I did well.

>>8032804
I'm the stripperanon from above and I'm definitely doing very well financially. I have worked in low income jobs and while some of them were enjoyable enough, I hated the tiny amount of money I was making. Here I'm making money, saving for my future and enjoying myself doing it while I'm young.

>>8032862

If you're established and success then by all means, continue doing it. My concern is people jumping into things over what they perceive as easy money, without understanding what kind of work is really required or the skills involved.

I'm a numbers kind of guy so usually I'm the buzzkill breaking down people's dreams into a business plan. Most people quit once they realize how much work they will really need to do and how narrow their margins are.

Thinking of getting free shit with tumblr sponsorships and then reselling it. Some free stuff may actually be nice. Only problem is how to gain followers? I gain around 3 a week :/ I promote my blog and have a constant queue w/ coherent theme.

>>8032798
I wish I could do that but I'm autistic as fuck and can't explain shit to people.

>>8031198
This sounds like an excellent trick for disavowing your camwork later, with a little planning:
> stock up on a single style of realistic fake tattoo
> always wear fake tattoo in same place when doing cam work
> prove it's "not you" by absence of tattoo in real life

>>8031230
When I first got online, there was a chick who was using my realname as her fakename for doing pregnancy porn. She didn't look like me aside from race & general weight, but I got some weird-ass questions for a while.

>>8032744
shh stop giving good advice

but srsly it's funny how some people will spend thousands on cons per year and then complain that schooling is "too expensive"

>>8031988
>working with legit companies
That's their problem and why they're not making much.

>>8032232
Hey, I'm big into reselling stuff off Storenvy and if you e-mail me I can answer any questions you have.

On lunch at the moment so I can't type everything out here.

>>8032744
I self-taught HTML in middle school, too, and I do minor freelance sometimes when I want some extra money. However, I actually like chasing different schemes. I've done freelance, flipped stuff on ebay, resold from Taobao, scammed lolita noobs (I felt bad and ended up stopping, basically just bought AP replicas and then sewed in fake tags), made a blog with ad revenue, did beer money sites, etc. etc.. It's actually not very hard to get money without a consistent job, and I prefer the reliability of the system I have now. There's no possibility of my losing "my job". I have no set hours; I can work however much I want, and the amount of time I spend working directly affects how much money I make. I have tons of different avenues to fall back on so that if something fails, I have plenty of back-up. I'm also building up a huge skill set in case I want to get a "real" job elsewhere.

"Wasting my life on one retarded scheme after another" has actually made my life really fulfilling. I can't stand monotony, so being able to control what I do and work on my own schedule is really sweet.

Since you're skeptical, this is my Paypal stats so far this year.

>>8031551
petitepasserine is trying to force her furry shit OCs as mascots in our local comm, even if she never comes to meets or dresses in Lolita.
I dubt she earns anything on that, though

>>8030982
basically, I'm just trying to get through college anon.

>>8033489

petitepasserine has some weird surreal shit going on with her characters

>oh teehee she's made out of bubblegum and if you chew her she'll go pop!

Or weird shit like that. It seems a bit cult and fetishy, like the bologna dude who shows up here once in a while.

>>8033532
>oh teehee she's made out of bubblegum and if you chew her she'll go pop!
that sounds like generic cutesy character stuff tbh

You could always get a sugar daddy. There's tons of websites that cater to that sorta thing. I had one a few years ago, got money for doing practically nothing.

/r9k/ is going to have a field day with this thread.

someone explain, why are virgins so horrible?

>>8033895

>>8033895
There's nothing wrong with being a virgin in and of itself, but the majority of virgins are either self-righteous about their virginity or angry about their virginity (sometimes both, "women are whores, why would I stick my dick in that ever?") I don't think it's something that should be used to insult people myself, though, and I personally haven't been a virgin for about 11 years. Sage for off-topic.

>>8033918
That explains it.
The fact they are virgins, whatever, but it just breeds this awful
"Life owes me vagina" mentality

>>8033921
>>8033895
>>8033918
You're all confusing virgins with bitter beta males

I don't blame you, many of them are virgins

>>8033489
Cosplayers who try to be con mascots are cringe worthy in general.

I do pretty well camwhoring and some utube videos on mundane stuff.
Never underestimate horny virgin bux, I never pay for my own dinners and if I really wanted could just live from guy-to-guy housewise but that seems a bit skanky

So I tried my hand at drawing furries... Do you guys think I'll have a chance making it in the furry community?

>>8038661
While that's a very nice drawing style, and I hate to say this: no.
Making money as a furry artist isn't about finding your whole own artstyle, sadly. It's about doing what the others do at a high enough quality.
Go for the generic stereotypical furry drawings, like pic related. That's where the demand is highest, that's what people want most.
Set yourself apart from other artists by quality and doing exactly what people want.

of course your art can have its own quirks, but it's best not to stray away from the generic furshit too much, or else the generic furshit loving hordes of paying customers won't care about your art.

>>8038661
>>8038710
TBH, you can probably get more attention from tumblr with that style than other furry communities. Maybe try there?

>>8038713
While it would probably be popular on tumblr...
the furries just aren't on tumblr. There's a bunch of furries who browse some blogs on tumblr. Tumblr isn't regarded as a comissioning platform, though, and pretty much ever tumblr artist will tell you that he makes shit for money, except for the really big mainstream artists.

I'm not saying you have to like deviantart and furaffinity, but that's just where the people you want to make money off are. They want cheesy "green dogman with green neon dick jerks off blue dogman with yellow neondick but blue neon balls" stuff, that's what you get the most money for.

Porn. I want to make money too. I'll pay someone to star in some porn I shoot and hopefully in turn I can make money off it.

I'm a stripper and like the other anon, make super good money doing it.

so many people here say they are doing camming stuff but how many are them are serious? the last two were clearly some beta virgin's samefag. "tryin to bring back caps for the bros"

>>8038661
A friend of mine does furry commissions to make a little dosh and while her usual style is very Tumblr cute uguu her furry style is quite bulky and (I'd say ugly) uhhh traditional furry. It's what sells though so she's happy to make art she doesn't like for money.

>>8033384
That's revenue. What's your net profit? I am 3 years out of school and already making 6 digit USD all-in.

>>8038806
Would it be possible to see a comparison of her regular art vs her furry art? I'm just curious.

>>8038811
Normal art

>>8038811
Fur art.

>>8038811
Apparently answering this innocuous question will get a person banned. Great.

...Did a mod seriously just ban multiple people for posting non-explicit furry images for comparison purposes?

Could you not have fucking deleted the images? The posts were incredibly helpful.
Jesus, must suck doing such an easy job and still being shit at it. If you can even call that a job.

>>8038891
Yup. Apparently it was just too furry and might lead to the end of civilisation as we know it. That thread about actual furrys in fashion was however hunky dory.

>>8038891
she does it
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>>8038910
Which just makes all epeen waving even stupider.

>>8033384
I have a job and my revenue this year is twice that already. I also self-taught HTML in middle school but I use it to get jobs instead of freelance. Plus, as I'm sure you know (others reading may not) the government taxes the shit out of freelancers so unless you are scamming the irs you're not actually getting all that money anyway. I used to "self-employee" and do schemes but I just do that for extra money now, it doesn't really compare to actual steady income.

>>8038965
but yeah I do feel you on its reliability. however I know if I lose my job I can get unemployment (not sure if it's different in your country or something) plus like I said I do it as side income so if I lose the job I can just amp up that stuff. But whatever, if you're enjoying that stuff that's all that matters, some people really like setting their own hours. I suck at setting my own hours so I found the job + side is what works best for me.

>>8038890
>>8038891
How do you guys know they got banned unless it was one of you and you saw it?

>>8038976
Well one of two pictures posted in sequence disappeared. That was a clue.

So, does anyone else here sell blood or participate in medical studies?
I'm thinking about it just so I can pay for shit because lost my job.

>>8038986
Mod can delete posts without banning anybody you know. >>8038891 explicitly points out they could have been deleted without being banned, so why are they assuming the person was banned unless they're the banned person evading it?

>>8033384
Can you teach me to be you?

>>8029709
I want to get to sell Taobao stuff to my weeb colleages.
But, how does it work with the taxes?
When I buy from Taobao for personal use, I usually just mark down my packages so I don't pay 35% extra, plus some other crazy fees.
But, if I want to do a store, should I smuggle in small packages? will pbusiness paypal account notice?

Illegal smuggling lolis, what do you think?

is a grill (24 year old) streaming playing older games like SNES kind of popular? I really love SNES gen and if people would watch I might do it. I streamed for some friends before playing BOF 2 and it was real fun. I think I'd like to do it mostly to just meet some friends. If I got popular that'd be a side bonus.

thoughts? advice? Am I too old?

> open storenvy to resell taobao/anime things
> first sale in less than 24 hours

you guys weren't kidding.

>>8029680
you guys need to streamline your revenue sources

get naked, get on cam, draw furry art commissions while begging people fapping to you for cash

>>8039728
just wear a low cut short and play hearth stone

just make up a bunch of "competitive" sounding shit like card advantage, curve etc etc

>>8032744
>I self taught myself HTML in *middle school*

That's fine and dandy, as I also did the same, but I'm just going to point out that websites are nowhere near what they were when we were in middle school. I really hope you've also picked up at least the basics for building a dynamic webpage, or at the very minimum, learned some CSS. If not, knowing just HTML won't get you far at all in the job world. (But it's a start!)

Wow I had it in my mind that Lolita's were classy, and had to work hard to support this expensive hobby.

Not all of you in this thread are like this but a lot of you seems like the lowest common denominator.

Muh no jobs yeah right.

I always hear how Lolita is about being classy, but now I might just be seeing a dressed up turd.

>>8032744
everyone who had a myspace account in highschool has HTML on their resume

>>8039967
HTML + CSS might help you build a homepage for the anime club. Any more complex and actually well paying site will require some knowledge of databases, javascript, servers, web frameworks (Typo3, Ruby on Rails).

>>8039980
Nah, web development would, but not web design. However, even if you do know the mark-up languages of web design doesn't mean you understand the design part. You have to be knowledgeable about both web design and HTML/CSS (as well as possibly Javascript; not required but helpful). Actually, what would be most profitable for a web design amateur would probably be designing ~custom tumblr layouts~ and selling them to Tumblrtards.

>>8039685
You only pay sales taxes (if that's what you mean) for sales made in your own state. But then there's income taxes... if you make less than $4,000 profit then I wouldn't worry about it, and even if you did quite a bit, you can mark down quite a bit. Your laptop and all laptop repairs could be written off as business expenses, as could stuff like internet and even utilities like water. Just keep track of all of your expenses in case the government takes notice. I've done it for quite a while, though, and I've never gotten charged taxes.

Or do you mean customs for importing stuff from Taobao? What country are you in?

>>8038965
Knowledge of HTML itself can't get you a job. You could put it on a resume, but it in and of itself is basically useless. And it's not like there's official contracts; I made agreements with individuals. So I'm not really hit hard with taxes. You're right, it certainly isn't "comparable", because it's 1000x better!

>>8040001
I'm in Norway.
For personal use, more than 30 usd, I must pay 35% + ca. 50 usd fee
I can just mark down for my own personal use, but for selling in StorEnvy, I wonder if I could get in deep trouble if I marked down packages or bought as personal use.
Even if I sold it in person.

>>8039121
>unless they're the banned person evading it?
Who DOESN'T ban evade nowadays

>>8031141
My sister works at a surrogacy company, and they take into account everything. Looks, height, health, education, ect. They have a binder for people to look through the candidates photos. I mean, you are paying at least 50k for a kid, people want their choices.

I'm a transsexual escort in Seattle

I make 15k a month averaged out, working only on saturday and Sunday, I attend school the other 5 days. I try not to think about how much I could make if I quit school.

I charge $350 an hour and 3k for overnights, I let a select few men I've seen multiple times bareback me for double.

A lot of my money comes from gifts and tips, rather than my flat rates now that I have a base of regulars. It's convenient because they all know I only work weekends so they kind of compete for me

Girls can make even more, I'm fortunate to be japanese and extremely attractive (for a tranny anyway)

I also sometimes go to fancy places I would never spend my own money on.

I live with my parents, as far as they are concerned I have 0 income and no job, call it scummy but rent in seattle is atrocious

>>8041301
How did you build your consumer base?
How do you keep your family from finding out?
How do you handle taking/receiving payment?
Through what means do you keep in touch with your clients?

Sorry if I'm bombarding you with questions, just looking to get into the business, college is terrifyingly expensive.

>>8041364
>How did you build your consumer base?
I don't have one I'm a troll
>How do you keep your family from finding out?
I'm actually neet
>How do you handle taking/receiving payment?
I do it for free
>Through what means do you keep in touch with your clients?
I have no friends, clients, or otherwise. My mother yells at me sometimes though.

>Sorry if I'm bombarding you with questions, just looking to get into the business, college is terrifyingly expensive.
I'm samefagging and responding to myself

>>8041364
>How did you build your consumer base?
You service clients, you legitimately enjoy your work, people come back
>How do you keep your family from finding out?
"bye I'm going out", my family isn't the type to pry into my life
>How do you handle taking/receiving payment?
Proper etiquette is to leave the money in an envelope at the start of a session
>Through what means do you keep in touch with your clients?
Phone, E-mail. One big piece of advice I would give it to get a second phone at the start.
When I first started I decided it would be a good idea to use my real phone number. Don't do that.

>>8041387
My dad yells at me more than my mom does, stay sandy though

I just work a standard full time retail management job. Then I do artist alley and dealer tables at conventions. Artist alley is my own stuff and dealer tables I help with someone else and get a cut of the profits. Usually that's about $1-2k per convention, sometimes less though. The least I've made was $300, the most was around $2k. That combined with the job and I can fund my closet pretty easily.

>>8038990
I can't give blood due to medical reasons but have done paid psych studies and have had electrodes on my head etc.

>>8030448
How do you get into this? I've been looking at the fanart/fanfiction commission tags on Tumblr but all I see is people begging for commissions and basically nobody looking to buy.

>>8039972
Acceptance is the first step to understanding.

>>8041394
it reeks of bullshit,
no Ftm will refer to themselves as a tranny.

>>8041436
mtf I mean.
Either way, you wanna bring back caps for your beta virginfags, be my guest.

>>8041436
>>8041437
I've posted on cgl before, you could probably find one of my older threads. I also post on /lgbt/ frequently, The word "tranny" was more for emphasis, rather than a true way of referring to myself.
Call it BS if you want but I've been in some dangerous situations, and I'd prefer to help newcomers if I can

>>8039972
hah.

>>8041364
If you want to talk more in a less critical infested place, send me an e-mail. I'd be glad to help you out if your serious about it, a few of my friends stated servicing it as well

>>8031094
Make one account and slap your name on everything. It's also probably worth making a hentai foundry and furaffinity account as well. Toss around some free art and fanart of popular games like coc and shit and you're well on your way, assuming your art is actually good. If not someone will buy weird fetish shit from you anyway, but you may regret it.

>>8033532
she's so annoying but her girlfriend is perfect