/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8073428
Is your friend French, out of curiosity?

>>8073428

It does sound like you're trying to rub it in, or at least it sounds like you were socially awkward enough that your advice would come across as telling your friend she's stupid for overpaying, while at the same time trying to pressure her into making yet another purchase.

It's her money, I'm pretty sure she felt the sting when she saw that it was cheaper somewhere else. The first thing you should ask is try to figure out whether she can unspend the money, eg if the transaction can still be cancelled. If it cannot, the next thing you need to do is NOT make her feel like shit. Trust me, she's already feeling stupid overspending without you going on and on about it. Give her a positive outlook, eg, tell her "It's okay, at least you got the dress you love" or "We'll do better next time" or even just "wow, I really underestimated how much you love the dress". Then ask her how she'll coord it when it gets to her. Stop being so hung up over what she paid for the dress. If the money can't be unspent, at least make her feel happy about what she bought.

As for the tights. It's her purchase, it's her wardrobe, it's her money. You only need to tell her once that she can spend x amount to get the tights -- IF she wants to. If she doesn't, that's her decision, not yours. This is fashion, not the debate team. Don't badger her with a list of arguments on why YOU think completing a set is so important. She may even have originally wanted them, but girls change their minds about clothes all the time. Don't force her to go through with it just because she used to want it. Just let her know the tights are there and what is the deadline if she wants to buy them, tell her you'll help her out if she needs your help, then leave it at that.

Now, go send her a message and tell her that sometimes you're rude because you're socially awkward, then congratulate her on finding the dress she wanted. Good luck, anon. I hope you patch things up.

I cannot believe how fast all the new items went on cc today. I was out all day, come home- everything's gone.

>>8073601
Nah, were both Americans. Why do you ask?
>>8073668
I wasn't trying to pressure her into buying the tights, I just knew she was having a hard time finding them so I just wanted to help her, I also didn't argue/ debate things with her so don't assume things (but I probably did push some salt into her wounds...) Anyways thanks for the advice and perspective because sometimes I can get wrapped up in something and forget the how the other party might feel. I'll keep this advice in mind in case another situation like this does pop up.

>>8073682
It's because they actually put them up last night.
It's 12:46pm in Japan at the moment, and those items were up by at least 6:30pm last night, which is when I bought my stuff. Even at that time quite a few things were gone. CC has been weird about uploading/updating items on their shop recently without changing the "Date up" thing or even informing their mail magazine members.

>>8073682
>>8073682
It's because they actually put them up last night.
It's 12:46pm in Japan at the moment, and those items were up by at least 6:30pm last night (so like 18 hours ago), which is when I bought my stuff. Even at that time quite a few things were gone. CC has been weird about uploading/updating items on their shop recently without changing the "Date up" thing or even informing their mail magazine members.

>>8073682
It's because they actually put them up last night.
It's 12:46pm in Japan at the moment, and those items were up by at least 6:30pm last night (so like 18 hours ago), which is when I bought my stuff. Even at that time quite a few things were gone. CC has been weird about uploading/updating items on their shop recently without changing the "Date up" thing or even informing their mail magazine members.

How am I supposed to get rid of this replica I got from my ita stage if I can't sell them anywhere! -.- LM and LSE both banned them.

>>8073888
Divine punishment for buying a replica.

>>8073888
just donate it or throw it out if you just want to get rid of it so bad

>>8073888
Tumblr?

>>8073906
I had no idea, I just thought it was pretty >.> .. But yes divine punishment from the lolita gods! I'm just gonna burn it, hopefully it will appease the all mighty gods of brurando. lol

>>8073923
>>8073888
You know there are like 5 other very popular lolita sales pages on fb that still allow replica sales right

>>8073888
Sell it in your comm? Sometimes there are comm sales groups.

>>8073888
eBay is probably the best way. I've sold awful shit on there.

>>8073948
I'm not really a comm person, I just love wearing the clothes. I'm probably going to do what >>8073942 stated and hit up the other FB groups. I seem to always forget about the other groups, thanks anon! If all else fails, I'll hit up ebay.

>>8073888
what is it a replica of? I like to take peoples shitty replicas out of their hands and make them into like, pillows and shit. I loove me some cute pillows, but wouldn't dream of tearing apart precious burando or paying 100$ for oujia replica fabric

>>8073968
It's an AP Sugary Carnival replica, black colorway. That's really cool anon!

Can anyone offer sizing help for AP's shoes? Japan's "M"s are so hit or miss for me. Sometimes they're just about right, other times they're fucking huge. I usually wear a US 6-6.5 (EU 36-37), and I'm not sure if I should go for the S or the M of these bad boys.

>>8074035
I don't know if this is helpful or not, but I think AP's shoes might run big. I know that the BTSSB shoes I have in LL always fit me right/near perfect (I have 8/8.5 sized feet). However when I tired on a pair of boots at the AP store in SF they were huge and the Ls fit me better, but the calf circumference was still too large so I passed on them. Again not sure if helpful, those shoes are cute btw

>>8074035

I wear a US 7 (UK 5, but in some places I'm a UK 4.5) and I find an AP M fits me about perfectly. Their flat shoes like teaparties seem to run bigger than their heels. I made the mistake of buying size L teaparties and they're like two sizes too big for me.

>>8074035
I don't have those exact shoes, but in every other pair of AP's shoes I've tried I'm a size S at exactly the same US size as you.
As >>8074055 mentioned, Baby's shoes are about a size smaller, I have to wear M with their shoes.

Just curious if anyone has an update on JetJ's unicorn dress situation. I returned mine and sent them the tracking number and the postage price twice to make sure they got it. They never responded about anything, like how they would compensate the postage even after the package was delivered. I'm not too worried yet though because I feel they might be overwhelmed by messages/ returns, and they said it would take like 45 days to fix originally. The lack of updates on their part does kind of bother me though.

On the topic of shoes, does anyone know how wide-fitting different brands' shoes are? I'm an EU 36/37, so I'd guess S would be okay in most brands, but my feet are pretty wide, and I'm worried that Asian shoes might be pretty narrow.

>>8074124
>>8074068
>>8074055
Thanks, everyone! I'll try the S and see how things go.

>>8074141
Wait, I missed this. What happened that there were a lot of returns?

So Ista Mori's storenvy has Nameless Poem available again it seems. I kind of want to buy two sizes to see what'll fit but shit's expensive on storenvy. And $35 shipping on top.

>>8074154
S is 34/35, M is 35/37, and L is 38/39. LL is 40

>>8074345
Sizing got fucked up. Size 2 was like Size 1, Size 1 was like a children's 140 or something ridiculous.

>>8074396
Now they're charging $200 for it? Wasn't it 165 for the first release on their storenvy and like half that price via Taobao? This shit's kind of ridiculous.

I swear my lolita dress shipping use to be free.. what the fuck. mfw i thought i was getting away with murder.. turns out its more expensive then a SS

>>8074141

I haven't heard anything from them either. Kind of worried as my original order had a custom alteration in it (bust + 1 in), and when I asked they just gave me a stock reply.

I got busy with the end of year stuff, but maybe I should send them another email...

>>8073784
For me they were up around 4am (6pm JST), sometimes it seems they're put up a few minutes earlier. But I didn't get an email until 4:19, specifically.

>>8074425
Yeah, I think this is supposed to be leftover stock. But I think I'd rather wait and buy on taobao considering shipping will cost the same for me and I can buy 2-3 dresses for the price of one...

Ill put there here because people were asking about Woody Lolita a while back.
Its definitely not a scam.
I actually asked her/them to a few items from the same store she resells from and she happily did it. She also had a concern about the backing of one of the pins. It probably wouldve been cheaper to do it thought a SS but the price wasnt really bad 2-3 dollar mark up on $10 items (essentially domestic shipping), (i added up all items plus domestic to give a rough estimate of what she would charged. i thought shed charge about $73 and it ended up being $60) shes quick because i dont think her store gets a ton of traffic because no way of doing feedback and her english is pretty good. I just supplied photos from the store and color and she responded within an hour or two.

>>8074441
I have no idea what you're talking about but an anonymous post saying 'it's definitely not a scam' always sounds weird.

Is anyone else worried about cgl's moderation with moot gone? Our janitor-chan is so illogical and aggro as it is, I don't think I could take it if it got worse.

>>8074488
Maybe this belongs in the indie or taobao thread sorry... I just remember multiple people asking about them.
It's poorly written due to mobile... But whatever

>>8074488
indont think moot enjoys modding Lolita general

>>8073942
Which groups are they? I was thinking ebay to sell stuff but I was curious about facebook groups too.

>>8074488

Moot's forced all the sane janitors and mods away by demanding they sign the NDA and hand over ID. Whoever's left is going to be the worst of the worst.

>>8074512
Lolita Sales Worldwide, Gothic Lolita Sales, Lolita Offbrand Sales...

>>8073888
Tape your self burning it on put it on YouTube

Haven't seen anyone talking about it yet, thoughts on Haenuli's new For Juliette series? Up on their Storeenvy for preorder now.

>>8074715
>kek

Too edgy

Sorry if this question has been asked many times:

When bidding on Japanese auctions, do you prefer using a ss like chibitenshi, or prefer using a site like Japonica?

>>8074859
I'm sure it pays to use an SS who is more personal and speaks better English. I just purchased a dream drest through japonica and I don't think I'll be doing it again. Their communication is vague and I feel they overcharge.

Recommendations for A-Line pettis? I'm currently using 3 cheap A-line pettis to give the desired effect.

>>8074841

I love the OP cut in your picture, but the print is just ok, saving up for other releases. I wish they were offering the underskirt and tights in ivory/beige, I'd be all over those.

>>8074841
If I can't find someone selling an extra Angel of Music or Haenuli doesn't put extras up for sale before this preorder ends then I might settle for this in blue because i really like this cut.

>>8074841

I love love love that green, but it would stick out like a sore thumb in my wardrobe. Conflicted because I like the balance I have going with most of my pieces, but it's so pretty.

>>8074851
Maybe but I'll watch it
>Burn all replica chocolate chess please

Does anyone have any theories on how popular milky cross release will be? Will I have to be fast to get one?

>>8074863
Chibitenshi definitely charges more than japonica though.

>>8074912

If the amount of discussion hasn't clued you in by now...yeah, it's going to be popular.

As far as getting it through the site, just hope the internet is in your favor, I have no doubt there will be lags and delays tonight. Also might depend on which colors are the most popular and what you're after.

>>8074668
Thank you!!

>>8074926
There wasn't much discussion today at all is why I figured I would ask!

And thanks, here's hoping
I'll be using wifi and LTE so hopefully one of my devices it quick.

Anyone know if we can buy headbow without a main piece yet? I didn't see rules posted when I checked last

Few Questions:

What are some good youtube channels/places to go for lolita-related info/entertainment?

What is some lolita or lolita inspired stuff I can wear to sleep?

>>8074939
Cheek deerstalker pictures on YouTube, some are bad but some a really good.

For sleep I wear a nightgown, kind of like the one in the movie Marie Antoinette, it's really comfortable and fresh, but for winter you might want to try something else.

>>8074934

I meant discussion in general like in the facebook comms, tumblr posts. People have kind of been talking about the release nonstop since the fashion show in December.

Is it weird to wear brand logo/name jewelry with off/indie brand?

>>8075040
As long as it matches in color and theme. You shouldn't feel weird about mixing and matching.

>>8074841
Like the style of the OP but hate the print. If they sold this in solid/non-printed fabric I'd buy it but with that print, nah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuA3fUdFMEw
I asked yesterday, but had to go and don't think it's still here.
The hoodie-type thing, what's it called and where can I get something similar?

>>8074868
Malco Modes.

Am I reading the yaplog entry correctly that both in store and online release of Milky Cross will be limited to one main piece per person and that in store shoppers will have to queue up again if they want to purchase another piece?

>>8074859
I tried FromJapan and Japonica but now I just stick with chibitenshi because it's more convenient and the communication is far better. Chibitenshi is easy to work with and she's gone out of her way to be helpful when I've had problems before (helped me pick a good max bid, let me know if an item I wanted is posted again, etc). She's my go-to SS now.

>>8074924
IMO the communication and ease of transaction with chibitenshi is worth the extra fee.

>>8074035
go for an m for these personally, i was in japan a month ago and tried these on and i'm usually an S (us 5.5 or 6) and these were fairly snug

>>8075328
It's a parka. You can find them second hand for cheap all the time, especially in this post-LP season.

>>8075374
Yes

There are probably 50+ people lined up at Shinjuku right now. A lot of very cute coords. A lot of Chinese, too.

Milky Cross in pink is very cute in person.

>>8074429
What the fuck, is it really that fierce? I'm super casual when it comes to this shit, I had no idea.

>>8075465
pictures, pretty please (taken with permission of course)?

>>8075508
The girl next to me in line was wearing it, but she's gone, anon, sorry.
Nameless Poem OP also made an appearance.

Normal people clothes are so boring. Thank you lolita, for saving me from a sea of drabness.

Wow, the AP website is running smoothly. Maybe this isn't going to end up being that big.

Does anyone know the max bust of MMMs harpsichord trio?

Fuck

Nothing wrong with site and then bam, all of my devices started crashing

Walked out with lavender JSK though!!

Time to wait for headbow and possible black JSK from USA site

So so happy!

>>8075565
It took 15 minutes for everything to sell out. Lavender and Black JSK was first of anything to sell out, then same colors for the OP. Lavender JSK was restocked once from what I saw, then at about 10 past noon, everyone got their orders in and it all sold out. (Except for the skirt).

Truly a shame those cuts don't match my body shape.

Damn, I'd be all over the Milky Cross series blouse, but the cross and stars don't go with jack in my wardrobe. I could take it off yeah, but it seems wasteful.

Also nabbed a lavender JSK, but now that I've actually had time to look - wish I got the black.

The site was super slow for me, btw.

>>8075574

I'm surprised it didn't sell out faster, and the site worked fine for me...and I was just lurking to see the stuff go, no interest in the series.

SO ANNOYED. Sellers need to disclose if they only accept gift payments instead of wasting my time and telling me after I send my PayPal.

How do you guys feel about paying more for a dream dress? There are a few sellers (or scalpers I guess) that have dresses I want for retail or above. Considering that they are used and not that rare, it feels a bit silly for me to pay more for them and give into the scalpers. Should I just wait it out and look for them elsewhere or bite the bullet and go for it?

>>8075712
I'd hold out if I were you, if they're not rare, you'll inevitably see them cheaper soon enough and kick yourself for not waiting.

she's back with another 30min video.http://youtu.be/Wgn9HKs15x0

>>8075465
What do you mean chinese? Are you talking about the people that snag up new releases and then sell them for too much money?

>>8075800
Ugh. She manages to make even box openings cringey. Also what is with her hair? Bad ombre or is she growing it out...?

>>8074939
I made myself a shirred dress and long bloomers from an old flannelette sheet. I hate getting tangled when I sleep though, and the skirt portion of the dress used to get awkwardly bunched up.

>>8074868
Any square dancing brand, just check the length - in my opinion if you like big poof, you need to be looking at 60 yard ones. Be careful about going too big if your dresses aren't very full though!

>>8075782
Speaking of Milanoo, I've been seeing their banner ads on LaceMarket. Have they been up for a while? I have adblock on my laptop so I only noticed them on my brothers computer.

So im thinking of going to my first meet soon, would it be acceptable if i brought my friend along too?
We'd both be in lolita of course.

Is Closet Child taking forever to ship lately? It's been a damn week for me. It hasn't taken so long before and now I'm concerned that something went wrong.

>>8076035
Why wouldn't a lolita be welcome at a lolita meetup? Unless it's a meet where you need to RSVP/buy a ticket and your friend didn't.

>>8075615
Speaking of gift payments, I've always wondered why people do this. Is it just avoid fees? Fees are not even 3% and even on a $300 item, your fees would be less than $9 with the added safety of both of you being able to dispute if something goes wrong. Are people that stingy that they don't want shell out an extra $1 to maybe $15 at most?

>>8075391
I have used both chibitenshi and japonica in the past, I agree that she is really helpful and patient but my experience with japonica was great too. Everything went smoothly and I saved more than a few bucks.

>>8075615
I would avoid them as they could scam you if you've sent your payment as gift and then they don't send the item.

>>8076063
I know it's popular for international transactions because paypal doesn't side with the seller like ever if the buyer decides to lie and say they never received the item. So then the seller is out the item and the money and there's not a tracking number on god's green earth that will save them.

Does anyone actually use 3 way satchels in their backpack form, or is it more trouble than it's worth?

>>8076070
I'm pissed because I don't ever send out my payments as gift. I insisted I would be more than happy to pay to pp fees myself but she turned it down

>>8076088
Sounds a bit scammy to me. You might have dodged a bullet, anon.

Anyone can remember me when CC put news on their website? days and local hour time?

>>8076081
It's the most convenient way to wear bags.

>>8076077
Except with a tracking number you have to sign for the item on collection. If it is not signed for & collected it's returned. It would be easy to prove that the item arrived as it was signed for.

This is a replica and I shouldn't buy it, right? The original wouldn't have the white dots on the bow, yeah?

>>8076170
Not all tracking numbers. For Canada, "signed" means "registered mail" and it's more expensive than standard tracking.

>>8076176
You sound buy anything Dream of Lolita regardless of whether it's a replica or not because they're notoriously shitty.

>>8076201
*shouldn't

>>8076201
I didn't know that but now I do! Thanks!

>>8074863
I had mediocre experiences with Japonica but really like FromJapan. Haven't tried Chibitenshi but I need a physical SS for some Swimmer items and I'll probably be using her.

>>8074924
I'm always worried when it's just one person doing something. What if they get sick? What if they suddenly get suck into a parallel world and I never hear from him/her again. I trust a company a bit more than a single person.

>>8076210
I used her service for the first time last week. She charges more, but she responds quickly and is very pleasant to work with. I'd recommend her.

>>8076081
I do this at conventions, but not everyday wear

BTB sure is taking it's sweet time

Secrets are up!

>>8076435
About fuckin time!

So I was watching TV and I just saw this commercial by Expedia, and there are lolitas at about 11 seconds in. I think one of them is wearing DDC? I just thought this was cool. Can anyone tell what the other girl is wearing?
http://youtu.be/f48_FGzoKLg

>>8076435
They werent than good this time. They haven't been for a while

>>8076450
Nice
>That skank look tho

>>8076450
That's RinRin Doll in DDC and Kimura U in Memorial Cake.

Tips for someone who is tall?
What's going to be the hardest to find that fits?

>>8076509
Underskirts

Problem solved

The rest depends on what your body shape is like. For example if you are broad shouldered then you will have a hard time finding OPs

>>8076497
Oh damn, you're right,I didn't even notice that!

>>8076509
How tall? Depending on your proportions you may have trouble with skirts, sleeves and/or shoes. I'm not even tall but I have long arms and blouse sleeves are hit or miss for me.

>>8076539
5'11 or 6'0.
I'm a US size 12 for shoes ;_;.

>>8076245

That is essentially what happened to dollypoddle, so that's a legitimate concern.

I don't think anybody still knows what happened to her.

There are already at leat three milky cross special sets on mbok. This is ridicoulus. Why gets every popular AP print scalped that bad?
I'm sick of it.

>>8077001

Because rich chinese have money to burn, and thus inflate prices, that's why.

I'm chinese and i'm mad as fuck they keep inflating prices because 50,000 yen is chump change to them

I'm not even particularly invested in AP's flavor of the month but goddamn the waste of daddy's money makes me mad.

>>8076542
Oooh anon I'm 5'11 and US size 12 too, hi5 five! You'll be fine. Use underskirts and stay away from OP's and highwaisted dresses at the beginning until you get the hang of it. For shoes, I recommend Taobao (an tai na does custom sizing but I dont like the quality) and Ali Express (I hightly recommend "shoes of dream"). What else do you need to know?

>>8075800
Holy fuck! All she does is complain!

It looks like everything is sold out in the international store in the first couple of hours. What are the chances of AP doing a made-to-order? Or was the selling rate too slow so they're not going to consider it?

>>8074035
Fuck, I wish I could say that AP shoes are too big for me. I have fucking flipper feet and have to buy off taobao.

>>8076081
I would if I had one as I have this thing where I get stressed out and break down (to the point of tears) when I am carrying too much stuff in my hands.
That bag is cute, I love axes femme. Is it leather?

>>8077255
I am pretty sure my entire comm unanimously hates this print.

>>8077255
I don't think it's just selling rate that AP considers. I think they also take into account whether or not the Japanese lolita community feels like there was too much scalping going on.

I haven't heard of anyone complaining as much as there was for celestial and cosmic, and AP just did a pre-order for celestial (they want to keep their brand image and stay on schedule with their factory and releases), so I don't think they will this time around.

>>8077357
I'm just going to keep refreshing for a hopeful headbow restock

And the ap usa and their God awful customs fee to Canada if all else fails

>>8075800
I hate people who talk this fucking much about nohing

Sorry if this is a noob question, but will tenso combine orders for shipping?

>>8077589
Yes, for a charge. Look up Consolidation Fees on their site.

>>8077589
yes but at a fee

>>8077347

Mine too. Something about mixing pentagrams, crosses and dead kittens, and printing it on chiffon so the print is not as clear.

I was more curious about things that would make AP do a made-to-order like >>8077357 explains. If it's the scalping, I wonder if they actively monitor secondhand sites, or if Japanese lolitas write in and complain about it.

Can anyone tell me when Closet Child does their updates for new stuff? I thought it was Wednesday and Saturays but I think they changed it.

>>8077649
I know Baby monitors auction sites (they've complained in the past about the high prices some of their pieces go for secondhand), so I wouldn't be surprised if AP does, too.

WELL. Congrats to whoever got the D.Walkure coat on CC.

>>8077649
I actually rather liked the print, I don't wear crosses so I would never buy it anyway but didn't see the fuss people were making then I saw the actually cuts and that is was printed on chiffon and I changed my tune pretty quickly.

On another note though I love the pentagram back, if they realised a satanic or pagan print with the same feature I would probably buy it.

>>8077255
Well, I know it's really unpopular opinion, but I'd totally buy a replica of this. And wear this as a normal summer dress. But something inside me holds me back, I never ever owned a replica, not even bags or shoes.
Besides I'm classic/gothic lolita anyway

>>8077740
Me too, anon. It's really the fact that it's printed on organza that turns me off. Maybe it looks better in real life but in photos it looks cheap and faded.

AP sent my dress to tenso and the tracking says it arrived there 2 weeks ago.
I emailed AP and they say they know it arrived to Tenso.
Tenso has not replied my mails, AP say they don't know Tenso's procedures.
Anyone have had delays like this?

I lost out on an auction on Yahoo auctions for a dress + accessories. And I've been on the hunt for this dress since.

Now I see that same dress + same exact accessories on LM for more than twice the price. Is it bitchy to link the previous Y!J auction to them and ask the seller if they'd consider selling it at a lower price? And no, not just $10 reduction..

>>8077776
That seems pretty unusual.
I've had package A arrive a day sooner than Package B. But they emailed me about Package B first.

But I've never heard of week delays.. just 1-2 days. Definitely follow up with Tenso - in my experience they don't take that long to respond to emails either.

>>8077801
Pretty bitchy, but fuck people who do this.

>>8077801
What's the name of the dress, anon?

>>8075800
fucking 3 mins for her to even start opening the box. omg another 2 mins to open the box seriously.

>>8077825
I don't think she knows what a jump cut is.

>>8077822
Sailor Marine OP.
The girl's also not covering PP fees which is against LM rules.

But man, I don't feel like piling on the bitchyness with her. I just want that dress!

>>8077831
>The girl's also not covering PP fees
Pet fucking peeve. If you don't want to pay them that badly, just price your item accordingly so you don't lose out. I hate looking at the price of something and then realising I have to factor in other fees.

Does it make me a bad person if I buy a dress that someone's selling for WAAAY less than it's worth?
>"I don't do the whole inflated price thing"
>Girl that doesn't mean selling something so cheap I initially assumed it was either ripped or actually a replica

>>8077991
It sounds like you already mentioned that she was underselling it. If that's the case, she's not just some clueless newbie, so I'd say it's fair game. Just be sure it really isn't damaged/a replica/whatever, like you said.

>>8077991
I know a girl who was doing a leaving lolita sale in my comm and she was doing really decent prices with shipping included! It was too bad that I don't wear sweet or else I would have grabbed a dress.

>lolita general
>no lolis
Are you for real??

>>8078359
Not sure of troll or stupid

>>8077991
No, I don't think so. I bought a dress in the BST thread here that was about $150 under-priced but I didn't say anything. It's super easy to find out the value of a piece so, so when it's underpriced I always assume that they would rather just get rid of things rather than barter with people

>>8078359
Are you new here?

>>8078377
>>8078378
What else can you post in lolita threads. pro tip dressing in some kind of clothes won't make you into a loli.

>>8075985
Unfortunately if you have a history of looking at brand sites, you will be bombarded with milanope. Maybe advertisers noticed that many lacemarket visitors also visit brand sites, so milanope ads got mixed in as well.

>>8078379
>loli

Oh god get a load of this pedo

>>8078391
>being pedo is bad
check your privilege you shitlord

>>8078359
But da ~~lolicon~. 0/10. You can go now.

>>8078377
>>8078378
>>8078407
>taking the b8
Come on guys, we're better than this.

>>8077801
it's not really bitchy to just make an offer. if you're polite about it and mention you saw the dress go for less on Y!J and you're wondering if they'd accept that same price it sold for or a bit more for it, they may be willing to consider, especially if they need the money sooner rather than later. it'd be bitchy only if you phrase it rudely, like a demand or something, or if you beg.

My winter coat died and its freezing till April where I live, new coat is URGENTLY needed.
I like the look of this F+F one but never bought F+F, whats the quality like? SHould I avoid them?

>>8078750
F+F coats are pretty good for warmth if you ask for the correct materials, but their construction quality is bodyline tier (i.e. mostly okay, but not fantastic) Their sizing, on the other hand, can be very hit and miss particularly their custom sizing.

>>8078762
Do you have any places you'd recommend? Aside from brand, I'm kinda broke, want to buy something nice but can't splurge on brand. I don't want to waste money getting something that I'll literally throw out at the end of April, it would be nice to get at least 2 winters out of it instead of just half a winter

Is it wrong that I love layering/ wearing different shades of white (and sometimes other colors if it is a floral, like different shades of pink roses and stuff)? I just think it gives a really romantic look and adds more dimension to my outfit... I do it more with classic but occasionally with sweet-classic as well.
I have looked this up but I cant tell if it is a fashion faux pas anywhere outside of the lolita comm. I cant even tell if it is a super bad thing or just a nitpick even in lolita...

Does anyone know the quality of swimmer bags are? I want to order a cute backpack for school but I just wanna be sure it can be sturdy enough to hold a laptop and a few notebooks. Would that be possible?

>purchased AP Chess Chocolate long time ago
>shipped in, fuck yeah, dress get, moves on with life
>was new to lolita and did not realize it was a replica until years later
>maybe oo jia? but too nice to be oo jia, so, idk
>fuck
>okay
>now want to sell it because i'm reordering my closet and don't do chocolate coords anymore
>what do?

>>8078861
Sell it in one of the Facebook groups that allows replicas?? Or here on cgl.
Or send it to me. For freeeeee.

>>8078861
Ebay

>>8078850
specifically these
http://www.swimmer.co.jp/?pid=80697214
http://www.swimmer.co.jp/?pid=82219087
they look big enough but im not sure if they can hold the weight.

>>8078769
Where do you live? With the 'fit and flare' silhouette there are some normalfag brands that make decent winter coats offering stuff that'll actually fit a lolita dress underneath, plus you may catch the tail end of some new year sales

Would this be the proper thread for a "does this flatter me/can I make this work" question? I'm the anon selling the AP Shooting Star JSK and because of the original damage and my modifications, I don't know if anyone would buy it at all. So I'm debating on keeping it but I'm not completely sold that it "flatters" me.

>>8078861
Self responding.

What would be a good price for it?

>>8077255
I didn't care for this print at all the first time I saw it, but the more pictures I see of it the more I'm starting to like it

can anyone post some worn photos of quartet chocolate collar jsk? specifically more busty girls? i saw that the bust goes up to 113cm and i'm 104cm or so. i don't want to get it and it end up looking bad on my big bust. thanks in advance!

>>8077740
i too would absolutely buy a satanic print dress with that same pentagram back feature, i really love that detail

>>8078850
Ive owned three swimmer bags. Two duffel bags and the biscuit bag with the long strap. >Biscut bag was awesome minus the fact it always flipped upside down and the colors are REALLY hard to match with almost any brown/pink
The duffell bags are really life savers for "holy shit i dont have room in my suitcase" Both times i came with just a check through and ended up bring the huge duffle as a carry on rather then just a small purse (and theyre only about $20-25)
Theyre great for sleep overs and carry ons but i made the mistake of checking one of them through then i was flying home from Japan. They obviously were really rough with the bag and it ripped the handle seem (luckily it had more then one layer of fabric)

The first Bag will probably last more so then the second (but beware the pleather will rub off after a few years)
Seeing as if you carry heavy things you probably wont be throwing it around but if you throw the bag with heavy/electronic things the 2nd bag is def prone to ripping like mine did.

>>8078980

cosplayer too butterfaced to lolita here

Soooo I wanna cosplay a character that has a lolita-esque dress and I was wondering if anyone could give me ideas of where to get clothing similiar to this that I can alter? Or just general tips on how to get the form right? Thanks!

Also sorry if it isnt techinically lolita.

>>8078980
Wait ANon sorry i ment the sencond can hold while the 1st one will break i clicked on the links wrong

Anyone know of any good minimizer bras?
I love my big chest size, but I just want to look and fit nicer in lolita. At my normal size, I can fit into a handful of dresses, but I want to be able to widen the variety.

>>8078995
thank you so much! it was super helpful! So you're saying I should prob go with the embroidered white bag instead of the black canvas correct? since its just 300 yen more I'll prob go with the white bag instead then, it seems more useful and i can do lolita coords with it as well. I really appreciate all the help!

>>8078896
UK. Normal fag coats would do the trick, I guess I could always embellish it some way with a ruffle or faux fur if I can't find something with the extra frills and bows on the high street. Heres hoping the sales are kind to my wallet! I'll have a look around in my dead-looking coat and if theres no luck I'll consider F+F! Cheers anon

>>8079016
Wacoal

>>8078992
nothing about this is lolita

go back to the cosplay thread

>>8079070
ok im sorry for wasting your time

>go to /mu/
>ITT: You wake up as your favorite artist; what do you do?

I didn't reply, but I thought about waking up as Kimbra and trying on my clothes; I think she would be adorable in lolita. She usually wears a lot of stylish and fashion forward pieces; she may not be Lady Gaga, but lolita would be pretty tame.

Now if I were thinking of a male artist, Mac Demarco in lolita would be hilarious.

>>8079137
>Kimbra

that based taste - Kimbra's outfits made me want to buy my first petticoat prior to lolita

What's some good music for a lolita?
Cute genres or albums or artists?

>>8079336
Lolita is a fashion and has nothing to do with one's musical tastes

>>8079336
Depends what you're into.
If you buy into the whole style=lifestyle thing, goths should be listening to heavy metal and rock, classic to classical music, opera, and possibly more recent musical theatre (although I'm sure a true appreciator of classical music would dismiss that as trash) and sweet to bubblegum K-pop and J-pop,

>>8079348
Something that fits the aesthetic, I mean.

>>8078769
There are tones second hand on closet child and maiden clothing and stuff
They come in like a few days since they use ems

>>8078815
I really love it too but I always see girls nitpicking whites that don't match. If you balance it and it looks intentional, I personally think it's okay.

>>8079018
Yes Def go with the embroidered bag. Im not entirely sure of that ones fabric but if it doesnt break or get really dirty before a year or two the leather material will probably start peeling up. At least in my experience with a bag really similar

>>8079040
Then you're probably set - the trick will be avoiding all the oversized trench coat things. Hit up all the big department stores - Miss Selfridge was showing a pastel collection but I don't think they're wool, but other places might have nicer wool ones. I usually go to Traid and other second hand stores but I'm spoilt for choice around my area.
Petticoat lane markets on Sunday might be ok if you make it to London/live in London, there's usually one street that has people selling back-of-the-truck wool coats - this time last year they had some wool blend ones for around 30-40 quid and pure wool (according to the tag) for a bit more. Not the undercover Spitalfields though, that's like...tourist trap craftsy stuff for too much.

>>8079500
eh thats fine, a year sounds fine to me. it'll be a greatly loved and cherished item. i already ordered it, thanks again!

>>8078960
I too am interested in this.

>>8079336
Yura Hatsuki! She's amazing

>>8078960
>>8079552
Here anons, sorry about the weird filter. My bust is 94-95cm, and i honestly wouldn't recommend much more than that, it will split open a lot and look awkward. I don't think it would go to the max measurements tbh. Hope this helps!

>>8079425
I honestly don't care what people think of me but I don't want to look messy, yknow?

>>8079579
Are your shoes the Bodyline 255 ones in gold? If they are, what's the gold like in comparison to some other gold items you have? I'm waiting for a ton of gold accessories, including those shoes, for a coord and I'm worried about the gold shades being all over the place.

>>8079599
They are the 255's. I would say they are a bit shinier than my other gold items. Here's a pic from my wardrobe post next to another pair of matte gold shoes i have for comparison.

>>8079579
Thank you! Very cute coord btw!

>>8079579
thanks!! would you mind explaining that "split open" bit though? like does it look weird in the back with the shirring or...?
great coord btw.

>>8079650
>>8079665
No problem, thanks!
I should have gone into more detail sorry, i meant the front of the bodice will split open on the side near the buttons since its not sewn down completely, you can sort of see it happening a little bit in my pic. I imagine if you had a 100cm+ bust it would split it too far and it would warp the bodice, hope that makes sense.

>>8078815
It mostly looks bad if you mix warm and cool tones, like ivory ruffles and a stark blueish white blouse. If you make it look intentional and well balanced it can look nice.

So my friend got a rare jsk that was posted in the sales group as L size, when in reality, it was M and the seller lied. Of course, my friend didn't realize it until she got it in the mail and tried it on. Hopefully, her paypal dispute will go in my friend's favor!

>>8079898
Was it Fancy Melody?

Does anyone know the lengths of the dresses for Vintage Cameo?

I heard they are re-releasing it soon and I want one, but I'm a tall lolita at 5'9".

>>8080335

Where'd you hear they were rereleasing it?

I dont think it was very popular in japan if they had to put it on sale for up to 60% off...

>>8080349
This month's issue of Kera had a brown colorway.

I already got the wristcuffs from my sister for Christmas. I want that dress put on my body, now.

>>8080353
Omg im so sorry, totally thought you were talking about the ap cameo dress

Is anyone else still waiting on an invoice from IW for their sale order? I ordered the day of the sale.

>>8080335
Didn't Meta already re-release it?

Can anyone recommend a shopping service for Mary Magdalene?
I plan to order directly from the shop if they re-release one of the dresses i voted for but I have never ordered from them before. I know they do have an order form for oversea customers but I'm afraid the item will be sold out before my order gets through; and also I want to avoid customs if possbile.

>>8080362
I'm order #6679. Ordered on the first day of the sale, got my invoice two days later. Payed the same day and IW shipped on the 15th of January...

Maybe try contacting them?

CC, I think you missed a zero.

>>8080729
>CC
>Zero
Kek. I wonder if they'll actually sell it for that price, though, or if they'll contacting the buyer saying they made a mistake.

>>8080732
BE contacting*

How are Closet Child's petticoats?
I'm in the market for a new petticoat because my leg avenue a-line is going flat on me and I crave more cupcake-like volume to layer over it for my sweet dresses.

I want to say away from places like Classical Puppets because I owned their cupcake petti secondhand and I hated it. The shape was awful and saggy.

I bought a Krad Lanrete JSK on LaceMarket because everyone's telling me that second hand stuff is cheaper.

I bought all the accessories, blouse, socks, etc. that I wanted to wear with it in the IW sale and that was less costly.

I feel like an idiot.

>>8080748
Second hand stuff often is cheaper. Not Krad, though, that stuff's resale is through the roof. Plus the yen is super down against the dollar right now.

This might be a noob question, but how does one start selling without having any feedback at all yet?

>>8080821
Get a feedback page on eglfeedback or somewhere, and start buying first to build up your feedback that way.

>>8080821
Use a proof item with a paper with your info for proof photos.

Be honest as to you are a first time seller.

Be fast with responses, be fast with shipping.

Insure and track all shipping, accept paypal payment for goods.

After your first sale you will be on a roll!

>>8080747
I have one and it's pretty good, I have the organza white one. Pretty fluffy, I wear one other petti though sometimes when it's a meet or ect. It is a good petti for casual wear by itself.

>>8080821
This >>8080826 . Really make sure you keep your proof of postage and I would say that as a first time seller, go only with tracking. Protect yourself. Use methods of payment that protect you like PayPal. Don't be distrustful but make sure to be equally wary of people with good feedback, i.e. don't get taken advantage of just because you don't have any.

Pack your items properly too. Keep your packages compact and sturdy. Sometimes loose items (such as small rings in a large envelope, or a heavy dress where all the weight has been focused in one area of a package) can break out of a package during the shipping process. Get rid of hairs and lint.

>>8080349
Vintage Cameo was super popular.
First release sold out in minutes then Meta had put out a 2nd release. Now they have that new brown colorway.

So what did everyone vote for on the Mary Magdalene survey? I didn't like any of the given options much, so I ended up voting for the Claudette OP in grey and Emanuelle Frill Jacket in brown and Lavender.

Does anyone have any infos on this Yolanda bonnet? How is the color and the quality?

I need a bonnet, but it has to be in ivory or beige or cream and not pure white. I wanted to get one from Elpress, because their bonnets are a bit cream-colored, but it turns out that the bonnet is actually pure white.

>mfw no more English Charm website

I was going to recommend >>8080920 that shop. . I'm so bummed. At least they still have an etsy, but it's only bonnets which is probably good for anon here (sorry, my google-fu failed me for yolanda's). I really wanted some classic blouses with small peter pan collars; every other brand seems to make wingspans for collars and I don't like F21's blouses for not being fitted.

>>8080748
only some secondhand is cheaper, on y!a or japanese sites....and it's usually brand. Particularly baby and iw.

secondhand krad is almost never cheaper

Could anyone tell me which dress this is?

>>8081049
That's bodyline yo

Best I've ever seen it actually, usually it looks like shit on a human being.

>>8080920
Diff anon
I'm looking for info on that dress

>>8080729
what website is this from

>>8081099
Closet Child.

>>8081110
thank you

omg
is it a thing for lacemarket to show you as a listing winner and mail you that you won the listing, and then when actualized, show a different winner than you which the seller also sees?

Can anyone recommend me a good offbrand/indie seller of boleros?

>>8080748
If it makes you feel better, that happened to me too. I bought the Lost in Sea jsk with the headpiece and wrist cuffs and including shipping the person charged me $285. I was just getting into lolita and hadn't done my homework, so I didn't know how big of a mark up they had done. The whole transaction was a bit of a nightmare. It probably doesn't help that the person I bought it from is kinda tumblr famous, though I didn't know it at the time.

>>8081053
Seriously? I thought it looked way too nice for bodyline so I thought it perhaps was one of the better taobao brands.

>>8081053
>>8081154
This isn't the bodyline one, this is by an indie brand.

>>8081141
lady sloth

floral notebook

>>8081161
Then my assumption was right after all.
Which one is it?

>>8081165
Thank you!

>>8080629
If they re release it there is usually a reservation period.
Tokyo pirates or chibi tenshi should be fine, they will mark stuff down

>>8080650
I got my email today, and I ordered around the 10th.

>>8081161
>>8081154
It's Bodyline. They've removed the front panel and put a blouse underneath.

>>8081141
I wouldn't recommend Lady Sloth for boleros.
I still have mine from a commission she fucked up and it's so ugly. I'm having a hard time selling it.

My bf refers to it as the frilly shirt from Seinfeld.
I'd go with Floral Notebook.

>>8081400
what's wrong with her boleros? the stock images look fine to me. Do you have a picture?

With the talk of the iron gate skirt in the confessions thread and seeing dream dresses popping up more than once, I want to know:
Are there any pieces that are sort of famous or sought-after by a lot of people?
I know brand is generally considered better but it seems like everyone knows about a few dresses and other things and it's kinda neat to know about.

>>8081498
is it even possible to be this new
lurk for five fucking minutes and maybe you'll figure it out on your own

>>8081500
I just wanted examples.

>>8081400
Is that the purply/grey on for sale on the FB sales comm?

>>8081400
Oh man, pics?

>>8079610
Where did you get those gold flats? And how is the quality?

>>8081165
>>8081141
I wouldn't recommend the floral notebook either. I was really disappointed by how the design of the blouse I ordered looked in person. It was just really off and awkward and the fit wasn't right either.

>>8081664
Is there anywhere else then that ye'd recommend?

>>8081672
Bunny house

>>8081654
I can't remember the shop sorry anon, but i got them from taobao over a year ago. They have held up surprisingly well, but i take pretty good care of my shoes. I'm still in need a new pair myself soon, if i find them I'll link them!

>>8081672
>>8081664

Conversely, I wouldn't reccomend bunny house; I didn't like how their blouses fit on me and the owner also has a terrible attitude. She was scalping a Bodyline dress and when someone called her out on it, she threw this huge fit...
I've ordered from floral notebook and service, as well as fit has been really good

>>8080362
I ordered day of the sale and already recieved my package last week. Contact them.

>>8081734
I believe these are the same shoes anon. I ordered them last week, http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w4004-6480615970.6.fNQazv&id=38173404026

>>8080650
>>8081756
Thanks guys, just sent them an email there. Dammit, I can't catch a break these days.

Does anyone know anything on Arden rubicon? I remember something about her listing location as US and Japan..she has listings on eBay for like 3x+ the actual value.

>>8081400
Pics please. I want to like Lady Sloth more but her stuff always seems to end up on the more frumpy side.

How would I go about getting a custom sash from pizzicato kei? I sent two emails over the course of the past month and haven't received any reply, and I'd really rather not get one from sakurafairy because hers seem kinda cheap

>>8082089
They are AWFUL with replying. I needed an escharpe on a deadline for an event and ended up making my own because I just couldn't trust them to be prompt.

Does anyone know if the current release of JM's four strap boots runs true to size? I'm usually a 23.5cm or an AUS 7 and I just want to make sure they'll fit before I drop that kind of cash.

>>8075328
Is it just me or is this girl obnoxious?

>>8082175

They run large. My mediums have an insole of 24.5cm, so I'd recommend you size down to a small.

I'm sry to ask this but I never get the difference between casual Lolita and otome. Can sb. explain it to me?

>>8081672
Seconding >>8081750 about bunny house - I accidentally got a blouse from them when I ordered a petti (ended up shipping it myself to original recipient and she did the same, I dunno if she got reimbursed but I sure as fuck didn't) and the blouse was all sorts of marked up from tailor's chalk still. Wouldn't buy anything from them again despite the petti being decent.

>>8079040
Good luck anon! Also a UKfag seeking a loliable coat, and even though lots of girls seem to be wearing the fit-and-flare shape (from last year I guess?) I can't find any! Consider letting me know if you find one, I've pretty much given up and am just saving for taobao.

>>8079898
Kind of hope this is a troll.
Unless the seller posts actual measurements, then really this isn't an excuse to get a free dress. S, M and L are so vague and vary between countries.

>>8082472
Otome is a style of its own, but isn't anything like as strict or regulated as lolita. Some dressed down lolita stuff can cross over into otome territory.

>>8079898

Even if the seller got the size wrong, why can't your friend just return it? If it's a mistake on the sellers part, I'm sure they will refund your friend and pay for the shipping back to them
Pretty sure most sellers won't say no to that and try to rectify their mistake, did your friend even contact the seller at all?
Sounds like your friend is now trying to scam the seller and get a free dress out of it so I agree with >>8082550 there is no excuse for this.

Even if the seller got the size wrong, why can't your friend just return it? If it's a mistake on the sellers part, I'm sure they will refund your friend and pay for the shipping back to them
Pretty sure most sellers won't say no to that and try to rectify their mistake, did your friend even contact the seller at all?
Sounds like your friend is now trying to scam the seller and get a free dress out of it so I agree with >>8082550 there is no excuse for this.

>>8082545
Debenhams? There's a pretty awesome wool cape on their site, plus some of the shorter coats have enough flare for dat poof or will sit over it ok. Sadly most of the wool/wool blend ones don't have enough space for a petti, and those that do may not be as warm.
Links (all <£100)
Cape: http://m.debenhams.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prod_10701_10001_61252+267469_-1
http://m.debenhams.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prod_10701_10001_54488+03554481_-1
Fit and flare/go look at Dorothy Perkins:
http://m.debenhams.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prod_10701_10001_33678+98519182_-1
http://m.debenhams.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prod_10701_10001_33678+98519181_-1
Less loliable but may fit the shape/sit well over poof:
http://m.debenhams.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prod_10701_10001_62575+YRIW05027_-1
http://m.debenhams.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prod_10701_10001_61068+LJ219B_-1
http://m.debenhams.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prod_10701_10001_62076+102891008_-1
http://m.debenhams.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prod_10701_10001_028020401109_-1
Apologies for mobile links

Did... Did someone at CC forget to add another zero?
Did someone just get away with paying sixteen dollars for a dress?

I don't know shit about this community, if my post is irrelevant please ignore it, since it barely counts as cosplay.

Would you consider Strawberry Switchblade as an early example of lolita """fashion""" or is there a more adequate term to describe their style?

>>8082089
Is there a market for these things? Looks pretty easy to make, I might have to get in on that...

>>8082978
>what's goth ?
>what's new wave ?
>hey guys, everything from the 70's/80's is lolita right ?
Well, they do have in common the glam origins but you're pretty far from it boy.

>>8082989
I dunno they had a pretty strong doll/little girl imagery going on, which other bands didn't have, that's why I'm asking

>>8083007
There were something called Sugary Girl which was a dollish version of New Wave punk style, pretty popular on the London scene but never really got outside the UK. It's possible that it had an influence in lolita. That being said, these are also common Goth themes and you can still find girls wearing that in the few New Wave parties we still have in Europe.

>>8083015
>There were something called Sugary Girl which was a dollish version of New Wave punk style
first time I've heard that term, unfortunately google doesn't give off anything about that. It does sound pretty niche.

Thanks for the info.

>>8082089
messaged her via tumblr

>>8083015
Wasn't that rather called "Kinderwhore"?

>>8083070
No, Kinderwhore is Courtney Love's thing.

>>8083070
I think kinderwhore was that 90s thing where women wore dresses that were styled after the 70s little girl dresses.
They were ridiculously short and had no shape at all.
It was weird looking.

>>8083080
>>8083074
>women

And based Twiggy Ramirez.

So I saw this. Topkek.

>>8075800
This was awful to watch. She complained the entire time. Miserable.

>>8083098
There's been someone trying to sell the OP on LM at a $250 starting bid for weeks, too. Krad's resale is good but that's what some of the full sets have sold for. Bitches don't know when to quit.

>>8082763
It's even in the same thread, anon >>8080729

Does anyone know how to remove items from the 'my favorites' section in LM? It's clogging up with sold/expired listings

Does antique beast's international ordering work? It's giving me this error message. I can't select a payment method as you can see. Alternatively, know anywhere that resells this headdress (besides 2nd hand)?

where are some places to find cute sashes other then pizzicato and sakurafairy like >>8082089 mentioned? i dont want a custom one or anything. its just hard for me to find anything with all this bridal/prom stuff in the way.

Can anyone please help me identify this bag? I bought it at a con last year and I can't find the name of it or any info, even though I've gone through everything related to "Angelic Pretty Bag" or "Angelic Pretty pochette" on lolibrary.

>>8083664

The last time I ordered from them I went through Japonica. Fromjapan should work as well, though.

Does anyone have any experience with Magical Holic dresses? Especially the ones that are hell of on sale right now?

>>8083664
I think they only open up their store every once in a while, since I guess stuff is made to order. I think right now their front page says that they'll be open in mid-Feb.

>>8083809
It's a lucky pack bag. It may have come with candy sprinkle? I'm not sure though.

>>8083948
Can't be Candy Sprinkle, that bag looks different. I think it came with a salo set? They've rereleased this bag into lucky packs a few times.

>>8083098
I bet there aren't a lot of these in Japan so you could probably scalp it like this fairly easily.

>>8083809
It came with lyrical bunny salopette

Did anyone see that AP Misty Sky OP in black on LM someone just put up for $1,800? Holy shit!

>>8084394
I imagine they meant $180?

>>8084463
Haha. If this was being sold on taobao it might've been! lol

>>8082572
Original Britfag coat poster here. God bless you anon! This should do the trick!

>>8083045
I just googled it and all I got was a bunch of "studies" claiming that girls who drink sugary sodas start getting periods sooner. Sugary Girl sounds like a cute style/culture though.