/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8222281
> I am memechan

>>8222281
The coord's not even that bad itself, she's just ugly as sin

>>8222281
I still don't understand how she was able to fit into this dress. I own it in wine and the shirring doesn't stretch as much as other AP dresses. She has to be in some pain.

Also before I clicked it I thought she wasn't wearing any shoes

She's a hunchback with a flat face and no hair. That coord would look acceptable on anyone else with a neck, a wig, and an ability to pose.

>>8222281
just post all of CH's coords.

>>8222281
I would love to put a pic up on this subject, however it would be a duplicate pic

>AP Cat's teap party jsk
>Nekomimi ears
>Split Pigtail wig (Blonde and Pink)
>Pink Petti show through
>Black Skeleton Tights and Black Punk boots

such a tragedy. How to turn a $350 jsk into shit in less than 3 seconds

>>8223181
that was an april fools joke, anon. this is her normally

>>8223181
are you serious, anon?

>>8222634
the tights and shoes are kind of bad though

>>8223181
>$350 dress
>pulled this from the ita thread but didn't read the comments about it being April Fools

I don't know where you went the most wrong

>>8223181
>350$

>>8223218
it was from lolibrary and conversions

and thank god

>>8222281
What's with her little boy haircut?

>>8223187
Oink oink MOOOOO. Maybe if she was pretty she wouldn't have to make jokes to compensate.

>>8223981
Who crawled up your ass and died? What about all the other April fools ita posts? Or are you just salty that she has cats tea party and you don't?

>>8223187
That ugly ass veil..

>>8223977
I actually think that a bob cut would suit her face very well.

>>8223187
whats sad is that her normal coords are not much better than her april fools joke coord

>>8223327
you must be new... jfc

>>8223981

Salty as fuck.

>>8224170
Nothing wrong with that coord.
I smell a vendetta.

>>8223327
Hope you are trolling but seriously, this dress is rare and usually sells around 1000 usd.
I'm not even into AP or sweet and even I know that, how new are you?

>>8224255
>vendetta
top kek

>>8223981
>>8224008
>>8224170
You are top tier mad about not owning CTP. Would you like to redirect your weird obsession with your nipponese factory-made crap onto someone who actually deserves it?

>>8224008
If I'm not mistaken, that ugly ass veil is from BTSSB.

>>8224399
Knowing that it's brand won't make something less ugly, anon. Just reconfirms that brands make mistakes sometimes.

>>8224409
I actually think the veil is the best part of it with the little rose detailing. I keep on seeing other people wearing it and i really want it in black.
Http://lolibrary.org/apparel/antoine-bouquet-head-bow-2015

>>8224279

Stay saltly vendetta-chan.

>>8222626
YES! So many times yes! I've seen pics of people squeezing into dresses that I own and I just sit their contemplating how they managed to fold space. I thought of making a thread solely dedicated to "how do they even into that dress" once, but realised it would probably get derailed immediately.

>>8224519
I don't own many dresses but one of them has shirring in the back and the odd thing is it doesn't help at all. Like I'm sure it gives a little extra room but the jsk is tight on my bust and I can not imagine how it would be any other way considering the shirring is in the back and I don't have humps there. But people talk about shirring all the time as if it will stretch to the max to make you fit.

>>8224521
It'll stretch to the max, but it won't be comfortable unless the elastics have been completely worn out. I own a couple partially-shirred skirts where I'm only a couple centimeters shy of the max measurement and they always dig in uncomfortably unless I'm wearing a corset underneath.

>>8222281
I don't understand why 'fatty-chans' don't use their free pass for massive wigs and head eating bows to balance out their bottom half, when some skinny girls pile everything on their heads and end up with basically the opposite problem.

>>8223187
Wow, she has really cleaned up her coordinates. She used to dress like >>8223181 normally and was pretty well known for it... I'm legitimately happy to see she's learned and grown. Good for her.

>>8224255
You seem mad, anon

>>8224708
Is this the greasy rave girl? Her face reminds me of something unpleasant but I don't think I've ever seen her before... unless she's the greasy rave girl. In which case she really did clean up very well.

>>8224708
Hey anon, i never wore cat ears at last give me that much credit.

I had a really incomplete wardrobe for a really long time and too many hobbies competing for my extra time and cash. Eventually Lolita won out and i was able to buy enough items that i could have my light coords and my darker coords instead of trying to mash everything i owned and loved into one outfit.
And i no longer wear Lolita to raves, mainly because i sold all my replicas and fuck that shit I'm not going to let my Burando suffer like that.

never forget

>>8224519
Exactly! I own and have owned some of AP's fully back shirred dresses. If it had been any of the others I might have understood but the shirring on Cameo Window barely stretches. I've owned one fully back shirred AP dress that fit me pretty well and I sold it to a girl whose measurements were much bigger. It would have fit her with size she gave me but when I saw it on her she definitely lied. It looked so painful!
I think there has to be a point where people have to look at themselves and realise it doesn't fit.
I really want to know if she did something to this dress. It has to be causing her pain.

>>8224519
I know, right? I have this one skirt from AteP and I'm still very confused how a much fatter girl squeezed into it when I have trouble zipping it up while being under the max measurements.
Do they just...squeeze the fat down to their ass or something?

>>8224714
yeah her

>>8224409
How new are you? It's one of their most iconic headpieces and has been rereleased several times. It's the epitome of a lolita headdress.

>>8224544
Honestly I love the look of girls on the bigger side with huge wigs and massive bows and would like to see it more. On the other hand as a bigger girl I'm so nervous about doing it myself. OTT sweet is something that I feel is difficult to do so I just don't and choose to go with a "safe" coord. I think that maybe the reason why less fatty-chans give it a go.

>>8224778
Always a fav

>>8223998
>>8224255
>>8224303
Aww, look. Fat fuck man face found this thread lmao. All I'm doing is telling you what you are (that being fat and ugly) stop white knighting yourself that shit's embarrassing.

>>8224778
Salty as fuck vendetta who's mad that she doesn't own chess chocolate.
>>8224303
More vendetta. Looks like your upset about not owning CTP salty chan.
>>8222281
Damn OP, why you gots to be so SALTY. How jelly can you get?

>>8225834
Actually no, I've only responded once here >>8224749
You're entitled to your opinion but Jesus drink a beer and chill the fuck out you're embarrassing yourself.

>>8225841
how's it going, wonderfinch?

>>8225841
>Salty as fuck vendetta who's mad that she doesn't own chess chocolate.
>someone has to want to own chess chocolate to recognize that that's a terrible, awful, no good outfit

Oh honey. That's not even a mediocre coordinate like most of your stuff. It's downright terrible. You look like a kindergartener dressing themselves for the first time.

>>8225841
hahahahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahaaa

>>8225932
>>8225942
Pretty sure anon (>>8225841) was doing that to make fun of whoever keeps whining "salty vendetta!!"

>>8223187

>>8225983
seagulls are the downright most dumb/gullible/baitable, it's honestly embarrassing to watch them not get the most obvious jokes

>>8225834
Hi dom

>>8224303
I dont wear lolita. Whats there to be mad about except the veil makes the outfit look like crap? It does. No other way around it. It makes it look so bad. I know the fashion and this is the most ugly headpiece grabbed and doesn't go with anything else in it.

The lack of blue or whatever filtered color that is, is missing from the shoes and it bugs me too.

>>8228132

>>8228132
>>8228133
Oh my God when Moitié is worn this way I want to cry

>>8228132
>>8228133
>inb4 they're just clothes, if you pay for them you can ear them how you wish
I don't understand how these dresses can end up looking so cheap and bland, it's wrong

>>8228132
>>8228133
>>8228141
>>8228149
Her facebook is Manasan Brois if someone is interested.
It's in French but somewhere someone suggest to her to wear a petticoat and then she say " I don't have any. "

>>8228132
>>8228133

She has terrible posture, needs a better bra, a few lessons on make-up and hair/wig styling, a petticoat, a fucking mirror. The list goes on.
She's very frumpy looking 99% of the time & her coords are mostly disastrous. Her awkward posing doesn't help either.

>>8228157
This outfit actually isn't half bad, even the wig looks ok. If she changed her expression it'd look pretty good, I'm shocked.

>>8222281
The only thing wrong with this coord is the shoes.

>>8228270

Yeah, she always makes weird awkward faces, which really doesn't help.
Also, when she actually makes an effort she looks much nicer, like in this pic. Shame the jsk doesn't flatter her large bust but otherwise she looks nice here don't you think?

>>8224519
I don't see why it's so taboo to acknowledge that someone's dress doesn't fit them. These are dresses made to fit the average Japanese woman, which is tiny. Obviously they're not going to fit a 200lb hambeast.

Someone should make that thread you mentioned.

>>8223181
>$350
... That dress is $800+ second hand

>>8228100
>I don't wear lolita
So, you think your opinion means anything because...?
>I know the fashion and this is the most ugly headpiece
You clearly don't know it as well as you think. As a previous anon pointed out, that veil style
is iconic in lolita and that's nice that you don't like it, but some normalfag's opinion doesn't really change how the fashion is.

Do you think the bow is part of the veil or something? Because the bow is the only thing making it look bad.

>>8228306
Taking such obvious bait

>>8228331
You never know. You'd be amazed how any people outside the fashion genuinely think they know more about it than everyone in it.

>>8228332
Oh god, I had this male friend who couldn't for the life of him see the difference between the ultra ita "gothic lolita wa lolita cosplay japan anime" shit on eBay and brand. He would always tell me how stupid it was that I would spend $300 on a dress when I could get one that was just as good for $50. Even when I was showing him the dress I was wearing compared to a crappy replica at a con, he didn't see the difference. Even my other male friends who knew nothing about sewing thought the difference was like night and day, but he just couldn't see it. I also had a cosplayer friend who tried to say my refusal to buy replicas was silly and compared it to cosplay to justify it. She said saying counterfeits were wrong was like saying cosplaying was wrong. Some people are just literally retarded.

>>8228288
She looks way more put together here I agree, it's not like her usual 'throw on every moitie item ever and it'll look amazing'. Which begs the question of why she doesn't always look like that?

>>8224303
I don't understand how people think it's OK to show up at meets with greasy hair. Even if they think they can get away with only washing once a week (nope) why not make meetup day the weekly hose down?

>>8228873
>Even if they think they can get away with only washing once a week (nope)
>knowing this little about hair care
Actually, once to three times a week at the absolute most is how much people should be washing their hair. Please learn more about proper hair care before you act like you know what you're talking about. I bet you use products with SLS and SLES, too.

why did these itas get picked to be the face of the new general thread?
girl on left needs a different blouse, this one looks like a men's work shirt. preferably change out the necklace, too, the single strand of pearls looks grandma-ish. the blues in her headdress don't match the royal blue in the print, which is inexcusable if the color scheme of your outfit is that simple, and her bag looks way too normalfag...
Mary-janes are not suitable for an aristocrat coord, and she could have at least picked interesting socks if she had no other shoes to fall back on.
girl on right looks like she's just barely squeezing into Iron Gate. Plus, even if those shoes are genuine JC, they're tacky as shit when worn with this coordinate. Headdress should be swapped for something with white accents and the hole-y tights need to go.
Some rings or a contrasting wig would have been nice touches, but clearly these girls are only wearing the print for brand whore prestige instead of because it goes with the outfit.
I'm not even into Mana's stuff usually, but these coordinates fill me with strong feelings of contempt.

>>8228897
Because it was probably a selfpost.

>>8228902
I miss the days when self-posting on /cgl/ was only done by the naive & foolhardy (or the superbly narcissistic.)
>onedoesnotsimplywalkintomordor.jpg

>>8228897
One on the left isn't that great, but the one on the right is fie and you're either sandy as fuck or jelly you lack IG

>>8228895
My hair starts to get gross and damaged if I wash it more than once a week.
Twice if I was sweaty and gross.

>tfw people keep telling me how healthy my hair is

>>8228927
the one on the right looks the most shit though.

>>8228897
On the one hand, seeing a casual photo of IG makes me look at it and decide I'd definitely rather buy a million other things than IG. It just looks really average all across the board.

I get the prestige and history behind it, but people keep talking about how gorgeous it is.

>>8228897
Forgive me if I'm being noobish but does Iron Gate even come at that length... I've never seen it before and it doesn't show up on Lolibrary so I was curious.
If it is legit why would they spend so much money on Iron Gate but then wear a work blouse and ripped tights ugh.
And that headpiece on the left looks like it's made from tissue paper lmfao.

>>8228949
No. The one on the left is
>homely looking
>wearing an ill fitting office blouse
>bad makeup
>ill suiting accessories
the only thing good is the shoes and that's just being nice.
right is
>cute with ok makeup
>somewhat cohesive accessories
>wearing a normalfag top but a proper bolero
the only things terribly wrong is she should have worn opaque tights and different not Jeffery Campbell knock off shoes

>>8228959
Yes, that's a version it comes in, it's much more expensive than the normal skirt, too, I've never seen it for under $800. Long skirts like that used to be very common in Moitie.

>>8228959
yes its legit it rarely pops up

>>8228927
I don't care about Iron Gate, the only reason it's popular is because it's rare.
The one on the right makes it look like low-quality mallgoth attire, though.
Moitie's lolita is supposed to be elegant and darkly cute.
Those tryhard spiked boots, ripped stockings and cheap headdress do not qualify.
Her choker looks like ebay-tier 'lolita' jewelry, too.
Plus, you can tell from her oddly squished waistline and the tight sleeve fit on her bolero that she is squeezing herself into these clothes, probably using corseting. Shapewear would've been a better choice. They're both pretty fucking ita, which is tragic considering how much money they probably spent to acquire those prints.

>>8228963
the one on the right is pretty homely, too. those bangs in particular look good on a small face, but on her they only emphasize the length of her jawline/chin.
Her accessories might work in a punk coordinate, but here they look out-of-place. If you're going to wear a huge OTT cross pendant, the rest of your accessories should also be OTT. Chunky shoes (sans spikes) would work, or an oldschool headdress with contrasting detailing. Equally, lacy gloves or a fistful of rings would have made the outfit look more cohesive.

I think the OTKs are fine, but picking ones with a simple pattern such as slender vertical stripes would have looked nicer since the lace trim is getting kind of lost from a distance.

>>8229533
shes wearing a fullset

>>8229533
I hate most of these special sets, they look so ita to me.
However anon, >>8229558 has a point. That pretty much is the full set that AP intended its customers to wear at once. The only thing she could really change would be the hair, accessories, bag, and shoes. But besides her face being doughy and the hair being flat, everything else is pretty standard and not necessarily bad.
It's just an ugly set.

>>8229533
The coord itself isn't bad, but those photos are REALLY unflattering. If she had better photos I'm sure she'd look fine.

>>8229533
Jeez this looks like bodyline...

>>8229558
>>8229565

She's wearing her blouse unbuttoned at the top, and the jsk seems to be doing weird things to her chest. Her shoes do not match her bag or the print, ditto the bright green star clip.

I'm on the fence whether this is a nitpick or a complete ita (I'm not the one that posted it), but I can also see that she's being posted on here for pretty much the same reason others are -- wearing clothes that don't fit, wearing them the wrong way, mismatching colours. Wearing full sets isn't an excuse for wearing clothes that don't fit you.

>>8229558
So?

>>8228897
That Wal-Mart handbag sitting on the ground, where it belongs

>>8229583
A good coord would still look passable in photos. The quality of the photography doesn't matter. You can see that the coord looks like ass.

>>8229769
I was actually curious what sort of bags go best with aristocrat? I haven't seen many photos of female aristocrats with bags.

>>8229800
Moitie bat bag or go home

>>8229533
Close your blouse for heavens sake!

>>8229800
Moitié bat or silent moon bags, smaller antique beaded or needlepoint purses/reticules, I've seen a couple of smaller satin evening bags look nice. Westwood bags, heart-shaped, a few other shapes.

>>8229533
Close the blouse, use some hair serum, the rest is ok. Not super, but ok. I don't like the glasses shape but not everyone has good lolita glasses so that's nitpick.

>>8229160
No, the reason it's expensive and popular is because it's an iconic print and one of Moitie's first (especially in regards of their architectural prints). It's not rare at all. Probably because people don't want to keep it if they don't wear it as it's worth a lot.

>>8228945
What do you do with it in the meantime, anon? I know that washing my hair everyday isn't good for it at all and I want to wash it less often, but if I don't it gets greasy and disgusting, hell it gets greasy by 7pm if I've washed it that morning.

>>8222281
How is her body shaped like that? O.o

>>8230024

it's infrequent to see one sold second-hand, if it is then it's usually for around or over $1000usd. If it wasn't an 'iconic print' that appreciated in value, then it would probably be seen even less, but people know how much they can get from it.
Idk what kind of brand whores you're hanging out with if you think that iron gate doesn't qualify as rare. it's certainly not sought-after because of the design, and people aren't going to blow that kind of cash on a dress just because they appreciate the history.
it's sought-after because it's not common...girls just want to elevate the status of their wardrobe/reputation as a collector, if you just liked the print there are plenty of similar options on the market.
maybe there were a lot of them made (and didn't moitie release like...a flocky version a couple years back?) but they're not in circulation, at least not at the prices any sane person would pay.
I bet you think CTP isn't rare, either, right?

>>8228963
You'd think if she could afford IG, she could afford real Jeffery Campbell shoes. They're less than $200, it's not like we're talking some $1000+ legendary designer shit here.

>>8230327
I laugh at this everytime. It seems like most lolitas invest in the dress but totally disregard the rest by buying cheap versions. Replica brand shoes i understand because the quality isnt much different (usually) but cheap blouses kill the look

>>8229988
Those shoes are hideous, not even close to ok imo.

>>8230260
Different anon, but Iron Gate is really not as rare as the price implies. That's not the main reasons it's so expensive. There are older, much harder to find Moitie prints that aren't as much. Gothic Arch, for example, predates IG by a year and is significantly harder to come by, but it costs hundreds less. I searched for that print for years and posted many WTBs before I finally came across a seller. With IG, it took me one WTB and I got four different people offering me theirs. It's harder if you're only open to one exact version and colorway, but if you're flexible you'll find someone willing to sell you one no problem.

>it's certainly not sought-after because of the design, and people aren't going to blow that kind of cash on a dress just because they appreciate the history.
Incorrect. The design and history are the primary appeal of IG. I know it's hard for some lolitas these days to contemplate how people could be so obsessed with a print that's nowhere near as detailed and busy as the shit we see now of days, but there's this simple elegance to IG and the old Moitie pieces of that style that makes them very sought after. Also, given how much people spend far far more on historical memorabilia and collectibles, I don't see why you're having a hard time believing anyone would buy it out of historical appreciation. It's price pales compared to the most sought after items in many other hobbies.

>and didn't moitie release like...a flocky version a couple years back?
You're thinking Royal Gate, which was a different print, but very similar.

>>8230369
>historical memorabilia
>referring to a dress that was released not even a decade ago.

top kek.
alright, continue on, Moitie-anon. I salute your cultish devotion with respect.

>>8231626
I don't think they were saying Iron Gate was historical memorabilia, just that it has historical value in lolita. Which it does, 9 years is pretty long relative to how long the style has been around.

Also, knowing things any fan of a brand would is hardly "cultish". I'm not even that into Moitie and I was aware of pretty much everything they pointed out.

>>8230369
I'm weird in that I much prefer Royal Gate and Gothic Arch to IG. Would love any of them, but eh. Budget says no for now.

>>8230352
Well I don't like them either (or the socks' that just aren't flattering) but they are adequate. I did not say it was good. LP sets are never really amazing or super stylish to begin with, are they? But on the scale of ita to wow, I've seen lots worse. This is presentable with a few tweaks. I think people need to look at things more objectively.

she's done a lot worse but the lopsided hat and those awful cheap tights are killing me

>>8224303
This is an old picture that has been posted many times now. Please move on.

>>8231755
Eh kinda nitpicky. I think this is pretty cute. Minus the glove things.

>>8231755
HAH, stupid.
How the fuck did she manage to get that fucker to stay put anyway? Alligator clips and superglue?

>>8229558
I am a brolita with this set, and I love it! It actually includes a black handbag. I give her credit for matching a pink handbag with her shoes.

>>8231755
I want to fix her hat, but this is really cute in a quirky way. Good quirky.

>>8229533
The socks omg they kill me

>>8231755
Is that HelloBatty?

>>8231846
Yes

>>8224778
My dream is for someone to remake this entire coordinate in this exact pose in front of their door and post it to Closet of Frills.

>>8231755
She always manages to stick something odd in her coords that just ruin them. Here it's several things. I consider her one of the biggest brand itas.

>>8231755
I think it's a really cute look, despite the nitpicks. If she just righted the hat and had different legwear, this would be better.

>>8224749
You've done things much, much worse than cat ears. Also, did you forget this is 4chan? If you're going to appear every time you're mentioned like you've been summoned, you're just as bad as a tripfag.

>>8232205
Waiting for the whiteknights

>>8231755
The hat is literally on the side of her head....how the fuck did she not notice?

and then to post it to CoF like no one will care. Kek.

>>8231655
I'm not that surprised that a person who thought Royal Gate was a rerelease of Iron Gate would deem knowing basic information that could be obtained within three minutes of research as cultish devotion.

>>8231669
You're not alone, anon. I'm not huge on Royal Gate, but Gothic Arch is the ultimate holy grail of Moitie to me. I will never understand how Iron Gate is so much more popular, it's not like it's older or way prettier.

>>8232205
I've seen some shit, but this... Damn.

>>8232669
idk anon, you sound like a mana otaku to me.

That's three minutes of research IF you know the name of the print and the year of release.
I never care enough to remember the names of prints unless they're going in my closet & I need the info later to reference for resale.

calm your tense, encyclopaedic cunt.

>>8231763
That crime against lolita, I'll never move on!

>>8228291
>body shaming~
Only in lolita, though.

Can someone please pose that really unfortunate girl in the sugar dream dome salopette? With the teeth?

>>8233445
That was my first reply to the conversation. I'm not the anon you were talking to before, nor do I have any real opinion on Mana past liking his brand a lot. Moitie's not even my favorite.

People knowing more about lolita than you doesn't make them cultish otaku. Please get over yourself. Few things are more obnoxious than when someone is wrong about something and dismisses whoever corrects them as way too obsessed for knowing things anyone even casually into it would.

>>8228291
>200 lb hambeast
>treating this number like it means anything
>mfw even when I was at this weight I still fit into a lot of brand and I'm 5'3 at that

I can understand your buttfrustration at girls who don't know how to pick dresses that can fit, but please, there are actually plenty of brand dresses whose bust and waist measurements exceed 100+cm that a fattie, even at 200, can fit into quite easily.
I remember weighing 220 and nobody said shit to me on cgl nor irl when I got posted with my DDC tiered jsk. Then again, I probably carry my weight better because I exercise and am not a skinnyfat.

>>8233618
I'm sorry, sweetie, but the ability to force yourself into a dress doesn't mean it actually fits you. The fact the internet didn't say anything to you about it doesn't mean as much as you think.

Also
>implying 220lbs at 5'3 is somehow better than skinny fat
I literally laughed out loud at that. 10/10

>>8233618
Classic fatty-chan denial if I ever did see it

How shitty is shitty? Someone at my most recent meet has Honeycake in white and it was pretty weirdly coorded the standout item being blue and white stripes OTKs. It was shitty just really confusing. All the colors were in the dress but there was no harmony.

How shitty is shitty? Someone at my most recent meet has Honeycake in white and it was pretty weirdly coorded the standout item being blue and white stripes OTKs. It wasn't shitty just really confusing. All the colors were in the dress but there was no harmony.

>>8233618
for reference, someone 5'3 and 200lbs is well into the obese category.

Just because you can squeeze into it, doesn't mean it fits or looks good.

If it's supposed to be a full bodice and your tits take the entire thing up, that's a problem.

>>8233618
Holy freakin' denial, Batman! 220 lbs at 5'3" is huge, I don't care how you "carry" it.

>>8233618
>220 and 5'3
>Then again, I probably carry my weight better because I exercise and am not a skinnyfat.
I have no adequate reaction image

>>8233618
I'm your height and at 120 and think i'm too chubby... Anon please it's not a problem when you're fat. It's a problem when you deny it and don't work to be healthy.

I find myself thinking I'm fat a lot but I'm almost 80-100 pounds lighter than you...

>>8231755
>>8232517

She actually sad in the description that it wasn't pinned down well. She knew it kept going wonky.

>>8233705
not trying to defend anon entirely, but they could have a lot of muscle, which is denser than fat (they did mention exercising for one).

>>8233851
At a BMI of 39, and assuming female, just no.

>>8233851
That's not how it works.
I would bet you all of my savings that's not the case.

Muscle is difficult to gain especially for the majority of women. To be 200lbs at 5'3 and not be a fat ass, she'd have to be a heavy time weight lifter and look the part.

Most people don't work out regularly enough and tailor their diet enough to have that much muscle account for that much of their weight.

>>8233854
>>8233775
Here, I have a bmi of 22.9 and still feel pudgy. They're probably very tubby and don't want to admit it.

>>8233851
That's not how it works with females at all. The most a female would be at that height if it were mostly muscle would be about 140lbs.

>>8234179
This. The only mucle this girl has is from carrying that much body weight , let's be real.

>>8230114
Try some dry shampoo while you're transitioning.

>>8233678
>implying I implied that
>>8233686
>>8233705
>weh you didn't know you were obese abloobloo
Uh, did I imply I didn't know I was in the obese category? No.
I simply said there are dresses that can accommodate for 100cm busts and 90cm waists. You can cry as hard as you want about it, but DDC was one of them.
>>8233716
I'm 180 now. So, neener neener?
>>8233775
>and at 120 and think i'm too chubby
Sounds like a 'you' problem.
>>8233851
Yeah, I was a lifeguard in high school and I played varsity soccer. I was a prop in college rugby. But anon, nobody gives a shit about this.
All they can see is a fucking number and flip shit because they're salty cunts insecure about their own weight and can't imagine someone weighing heavier than them and not being miserable. Wah, wah, wah. Ugh.

>>8234229
>I simply said there are dresses that can accommodate for 100cm busts and 90cm waists.
This is true.
>http://gorgeouspluslolita.tumblr.com/tagged/plus-size-brand-photoset

>>8234229
>all those replies
I thought you weren't insecure?

>>8234237
You're right. I'm not. I'm responding to clear up the miscommunication that people somehow seemed to assume that I was talking about "not being obese at 200" when I was actually talking about plus size brands that can fit 200 pound people? Read.

>>8234241
You mentioned skinnyfat. You triggered them!

>>8234241
Yeah but how would a 200-pound person have a 100cm bust?
I'd think it'd be bigger.

>>8234252
My highest weight ever before I decided losing weight was 240.
My bust was 106cm at the time if you'd like to know.
I think the biggest my waist got was 96cm.

My upper body is smaller than my lower.
I have a lower paunch and thick thighs. My hip measurement was at least 115cm. But that shit doesn't matter in lolita.

>>8234256
Yeah that's what got me. Usually the fatty-chans I see have huge busts.
I guess you're one of the exceptions?

>>8234257
I guess so. It just sucks being called a liar or a delusional fattie whenever there's a dissent with the notion that there are brands that can fit people who weigh as heavy as me. It depends on their measurements and where their fat accumulates.
Though I will agree that at 250 pounds and up it's time to lose weight for brand.

>>8234252
Not that anon but at 200lbs I had a 110 cm bust and 90 cm waist. But I'm large in the bust and small in my waist so...yeah, it's possible.

>>8231755
I really love this, the sideways hat makes it barely a nitpick. The tights would have been better without the ears(?) but again, nitpicky.

>>8234280
As stated by multiple anons before; being able to squeeze into a dress is not the same thing as it fitting you. Just because I can force my size 5 ass into size 0 pants if I try hard enough doesn't mean they fit me.

>>8234229
So you're losing weight and get that you're overweight but everyone is wrong for stating that? Lol k

>>8234229
>I'm 180 now. So, neener neener?
Uh, good for you? Still obese.

>>8234280
Pics? No offense, but literally every fatty-chan who can force themselves into burando says it fits them (spoiler alert: it doesn't) so I'd like to see whether or not this unicorn you describe is real.

>>8234317
No. You're wrong for assuming that I was ever discussing my weight category when I was actually discussing the fact that there are dresses that can fit heavy people, and yes, people who are in the 200 pound category if their measurements can comply.
>>8234318
Point is hun, it's a WIP. Fuck off now.

>>8234257
It's not really that odd at all I don't think, it seems like they just might be some sort of pear shape.

Anyways, yeah >>8234261 is definitely right in that honestly it depends on how people's weight accumulates. Also, some people might be 240 lbs of just fat or 240 lbs of some fat and some muscle (think of the way some athletes seem like they're really fat but actually are pretty strong? not going to get into particulars here, I know there's like a thousand and one rebuttals to this statement, but just throwing that out there as a generalization) some people look surprisingly well for how much they weigh, whether they're 140 lbs or 200. There's no denying that yeah sure there are plenty of delusional fatties out there but there's definitely plenty of fattychans who can fit into brand and they don't look like overstuffed sausages.

>>8234324
Because I'm really going to draw negative attention to myself now? Yeah right. Check the plus size j fash threads in the future and I may post my height and weight with pics of my outfits. Because people who post there aren't 300 pound hamplanets either usually.

>>8234229
No one is saying you should be miserable about you're weight, just that there's no way you fit that dress as well as you think. Because there's not. You're far from the first fatty with similar measurements to think they fit brand just fine when the reality is they look like a stuffed sausage. Feel free to post pics proving me wrong, but no one ever has produced proof during these discussions on here. Not even pics that weren't of them.

>>8234229
>stating the simple fact a person that huge can't fit into a dress designed for tiny Japanese women makes you insecure
If that's the case, better insecure than in denial

>>8234353
But I did because I've been posted in favorite lolita coord threads.
Nobody guessed I weighed 200 at the time because I took flattering photos and wore flattering fashion.
I don't understand why you can't accept that some people simply don't look like awful hams at 200 because of their weight distribution and activity level. Most of my weight is in my lower gut and upper thighs. I don't have weight in my extremities or my face. I have muscular looking legs because of my activity.
I don't know why it harms you so bad to fathom that I don't look bad at my weight, but for whatever reason, it does for you.
I'm not going to post my pictures because I don't want my image to be linked to me being aggressive about this stance, but it's true. And I'm sorry you can't accept it.

All I can say is look out for people posting in the 5'3-5'5 range who are overweight. We don't look as terrible as you think. Especially in lolita.
/conversation

>>8234363
See >>8234235
There's literally a list of brand for "tiny Japanese women" that can stretch to upwards of 120cm in both bust and waist. Plenty room for someone nearing the 200 pound range.

>>8234369
Then

post it

>>8234383
>I'm not going to post my pictures because I don't want my image to be linked to me being aggressive
You'd just nitpick anyway. I post sometimes in other threads that aren't hostile and looking for arguments. Pay attention for "chubby looking" lolitas.

>>8234261
The reason people don't believe you is because 99% of the time a large girl is adamant that lolita fits them, it's when they're in a dress they stuffed themselves into and is practically about to rip at the seams.

>>8234369
Oh honey...

>>8234389
That's nice but I'm an exception. I've been posted to cgl before and nobody has ever said I look stuffed or that my brand doesn't fit me.

>>8232200
But that's part of the point, I think. She so often wears something 'off' (usually adding cheap and mainstream looking goth-y stuff in her case) with her coords that it's become a thing. Maybe she likes it. Maybe it's a snowflake thing. But if you've been in the fashion a while and every outfit has X and Y wrong with it, then you aren't really improving.
I can't watch her YouTube due to the random rambling either. I've heard others say the same, that she lacks focus.
At first I thought she might become more e-popular (and I'm sure she still wants to since she has a Patreon and is asking for $$) but due to lack of improvement and no focus, I don't think she has that potential anymore.

>>8234369
Wow, your projection is impressive. No one has said at all in this thread that you should feel bad about your weight or that you no doubt look awful. Literally all we're saying is that you most likely don't fit your dress as well as you think. The fact you're so adamantly defensive about this and projecting shit no one even said is proof that you're not nearly as ~confident bbw~ as you're acting. I understand not wanting to post yourself, but if what you're saying is true, you should have no problem producing just one picture off the internet that shows you're right.

>>8234377
I was under the impression it was just common knowledge that if you want brand to fit right you had to at least be a few cm under the max. Also, with things with shirring, stretching them to the max measurements look like shit. Not to mention, dresses that go to 100cm and over are still far in the minority and rarely what people are talking about during these conversations. DDC, for example, doesn't stretch that far and that's the dress anon is claiming fits them so perfectly.

>>8234387
You already said you posted to those threads wearing DDC. If someone cared to check RBT finding you wouldn't be hard.

>>8234423
>No one has said at all in this thread that you should feel bad about your weight
Oh really?
So you missed all the parts where those anons implied I'm likely part of the delusional fattie masses because "99% of the time" when an overweight person says they look good in their brand and haven't seen anything negative, that they actually don't look good. Okay.
>>8234423
>Literally all we're saying is that you most likely don't fit your dress as well as you think.
If this is your way of saying "Most people could afford to lose ten more pounds," then you are correct. However, I think I fit my brand in a way that is satisfactory for me and to most people who see my outfits on cgl and other social media.
>~confident bbw~
Holy fuck. What? Projection much? You girls are the ones who got hostile when I merely said that there are dresses who can fit bigger girls despite their weight being 200.
>you should have no problem producing just one picture off the internet that shows you're right
Stop trying to manipulate me.
I already said I do post in other related threads, sometimes with my weight and height given. If you care that much, if seeing well dressed fatties is something you care to see, then you will likely browse the threads I post in.
I am not going to draw negative attention to my image. Sorry not sorry, you won't have your way here tonight.

>>8234261
I'm going to say that fatties fatter than me should lose weight for brand but if you say that fatties fatter than you don't look good (meaning me), well that's wrong.

Fatty logic. I'll never get it. Maybe it's just your bad attitude. (Fatitude?)

You'll still be that aggressive type who 'used to be fat' too if you ever get to a normal weight, I'm betting. So attractive.

>>8234394
Why do you keep bringing up seagulls not attacking you as if that proves anything? Self-post threads are notorious for being weirdly nice and often too soft. I see people in undebatably shitty costumes being told they look great and subpar coords getting the most sugar coated critique ever in every thread. It's nice no one wanted to hurt your feelings, but that doesn't mean the clothes fit you properly.

>>8234461
Did you get bored of trying to argue with me about the issue and hand and tried to turn focus on something else?
Why is it okay for you guys to assume that at 200 pounds I was already at the maximum for most plus size-allowable dresses (the cutoff for most is 110cm), but I'm not allowed to assume that people at 250 and above are likely well past 120cm and won't make the max for most of those dresses?
Hypocrite.

>>8234446
lmao you need to chill the fuck out, at the end of the day you're still just a fattie stuffed into a dress that looks like it's for children. calm down

>>8234465
>Self-post threads
No.
I said other people have posted me in favorite coord threads. And yes, not ironically and there were no shitstorms started about me being too fat or dumpy to be posted in them. Because I don't look bad.
You're just being a bitch. Seriously. I can't believe how fucking upset you are.

>>8234477
>you're still just a fattie stuffed into a dress that looks like it's for children
Are you even a lolita?
I can almost smell r9k grease.

>>8234480
not as greasy as the pits of your busted ddc dress ;^)

>>8234482
>implying it's busted
I ain't even mad fedorakun :^)

>>8234486

This is turning into a 'nananana let me have the last word with literally everyone on this thread!'

Take a break, have some tea, winning an argument with some anons over whether or not you busted your DDC dress is not going to matter in the big scheme of things.

>>8233618
I donno. When I was 200-210lbs, I'd be hard pressed to find any brand that fit me with a 48" bust and a 42" waist. I wasn't into lolita at the time thankfully but I looked awful. I got down to 145, the high end for what's considered healthy at my height, and even then partial shirring was difficult. I put on 20lbs from this last winter and at 165 I was boobloafing out of everything and was so embarassed because nothing I had fit me.

>>8234494
You're absolutely right. And since people will carry on liking my coordinates it really doesn't matter.
>>8234495
>48" bust
I don't have big boobs. Even when I was 200 I think the biggest they got was 43. Right now they're about 39/40. Boobs are a bitch.

>>8234446
>requested to provide picture of anyone proving claim
>HDU MANIPULATE ME

>makes multiple posts clearly stating confidence regarding her weight
>POINTING OUT IM DOING THE TRYHARD OVERCONFIDENT BBW IS PROJECTION

>say 200lbs+ isn't too big for lolita
>ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS JUST INSECURE SO THEY HAVE TO BRING ME DOWN TO FEEL BETTER ABOUT THEMSELVES

Gold. Fucking gold.

>>8234471
Assuming I'm someone who had replied before.
I just find it ironic that people who roast others for their fatty cutoff point often have one of their own that is equally dismissive, just fatter. Your post ^ will look just as shitty and exclusionary to someone above your own 'acceptable' weight as you are saying ours look to you.
You maxed at 240 so you set anyone 250 plus as 'need to lose' so that's the same thing as the rest of us who weigh less looking at someone 200+ and thinking the same thing.
If you know you look good and others say you look good, why you argue so hard here? Most would not if that were truly the case.

Too fat to live, too salty to die?

>>8234505
You are manipulating though.
Everyone who is a regular on cgl knows that whenever someone posts a picture to "prove a point" it backfires into a shitstorm.
At least with this argument it ends when the thread dies. If they were to post a pic of their identity it's likely you'd carry your vendetta for them well past the lifetime of this thread.
You seem petty.
>inb4 samefag

>>8234507
>why you argue so hard here?
Why does anyone argue anything on cgl?
Maybe people just like arguing the way people just like trolling.

>>8234507
Fine. I'll stop arguing then.
>inb4 someone keeps quoting old posts to have the last word
>>8234505
You're exaggerating everything as usual.

>>8234465
If a friend were posting her in a favorite coords thread, (or she self-posted there) most of those threads have little to no critique in them unless someone posts something really hideous and they get called out for trolling. We all know this. Ditto for getting posted in any fatty thread. Few but trolls and other fatties read the fat threads so it's mostly fatties asspatting other fatties. I checked once, out of curiosity.

>>8234529
Please stop replying then, you said that you would in an earlier post too.

Anyways, does anybody have pics of that french moitie ita?

>>8234515
People asked her to post a similar example if she won't post herself. Examples of people this fat looking good in brand are unicorns (rhinos?) so that's why she can't.

>>8234538
She said she posts in other threads. Honestly if you haven't seen a defensive fattie who's busting out of brand on cgl lately then I'd venture to argue she blends in well like she's been saying. Just a thought.

>>8234478
>I can't believe how fucking upset you are
Different anon, but your posts are undeniably more angry sounding than anyone you have replied to so far

>>8234529
>>inb4 someone keeps quoting old posts to have the last word
>>8234548
>>8234548
>>8234548

>>8234548
This one >>8234505 sounds pretty buttblasted imo. Nobody is ever calm when there's arguments about weight on cgl. Nobody.

>>8234546
She probably looks like all the other fatties squeezed into brand, that was part of the point, it's not like they are rare. If she's such the exception, I think we'd remember, more fatties look stuffed than not.
I haven't seen any particularly nice looking fatties in brand in a favorites thread lately unless the fatty thread had a 'post your favorite coords' topic in it. I don't read there.

>>8234478
>You're just being a bitch.
Says the biggest bitch in the thread.

Btw, you were actually more likely to get shit in a self post thread than the context you describe, so you actually just added to Anon's point.

>>8234529
>>inb4 someone keeps quoting old posts to have the last word
>>8234569
>>8234569
>>8234569

>>8234304
exactly, I can fit myself into children's clothes but that doesn't fucking mean I look good or should wear them

>>8234558
That's pretty much what she sounds like, though.

>>8234590
>>8234591
Stop.

>>8234601
Is your petti rustled?

>>8234578
... You realize there was literally no reason for you to post that other than to get the last word yourself, right? You're so cute.

>>8234606
Yours clearly is for the fact that you keep changing IPs and shitposting a dead argument.

>>8234601
For someone who keeps saying your done with the conversation, you sure are keeping it going.

Not that I blame you, the truth can be painful.

>>8234612
She inb4'd. Those people are trying to get the last word. And so are you. You shouldn't be so condescending when you're participating in immaturity too.

Hey look guys! Stupid fucking bunny ears and a ratty ass wig.

>>8234622
>bunny ears on an Easter coordinate
........much shock.

>>8234615
Not that anon, but lolwut. First of all, you can't even see IPs unless you're a mod. Second, you have to be pretty ticking full of yourself to think anyone's bouncing IPs to argue with you.

>>8234623
They still look fucking stupid.

>>8234620
But so is she, so she doesn't have the right to be, either. Pot calling kettle black here pretty hard.

>>8234626
could you imagine going through the trouble to bouncing IPs for this?

>>8234626
>>8234630
>she said this!
>well she did it first
>no her!
You're all children. I hope you argue so much the thread autosages. This is cancer.

>>8234622
Vendetta.

>>8234620
She's been trying to get the last word pretty hard despite saying multiple times she's done with the conversation. I fail to see how Anon was being anymore condescending than she deserved.

>>8234641
You could be the bigger person and stop too, you know.

>>8234636
Not as cancerous as the fatty in denial

>>8234641
But you do admit that other people have been trying to get the last word.

>>8234638
Actually just trying to get people back on topic and not finding much unfortunately.

>>8234643
>bigger person

>>8234650
Nah. She can stay. They don't attack unless provoked. Unlike shitposters.

>>8232205
>that dude behind her

>>8234654
Ohyou.jpg

>>8234643
Yeah? And so could she, but she didn't even though she's the one who wanted it to be over. I don't care about being "the bigger person".

>>8234546
If she's under 5'5 and ~200 pounds, that's Class II obesity, (one step below morbid). So not just a chubby. Even if her major weight is hips/thighs and she's an extreme pear, the 'looking good' part is still highly subjective and debatable.
PT 'fit into' DDC too, remember.

>>8234651
Not that anon, but the the fatty seems to need the last word pretty bad.

>>8234667
She said earlier she's 180 now. I'm just pointing it out. If she went from 240 to 180 then that's 60 pounds of weight lost. I'm sure she knows there's a problem.

>>8234657
I'm sorry your feelings were hurt.

>>8234673
As do you.

>>8234680
>>8234673
Just kiss already.

>>8234657
>only those on the side that disagrees with me are cancerous shit posters

>>8234678
I'm sorry fat people can look good in lolita.

>>8234685
Not sure about kissing. But if anon is convinced I'm a "bbw" maybe she could pay me to sit on her face. I'd do it for you bby.
mwuah <3

>>8234685
I'm not into fatties

>>8234676
But calling other fatties out on needing to lose, then being defensive because she is also judged is a little silly. Maybe she's 'the exception' there too, fat can call out other fatties? I'm not sure of ettiquette and protocols in the fat-o-sphere, I'm just glad when they stay contained in the fatty-chan threads. I don't go in there to give them grief but when they post in general threads, they should expect this kind of response.

>>8234688
FUCKING FIGHT ME

>>8234698
I'm not even defending her but unless people who are 250 are 6 foot tall, then it's fair to say they need to lose weight. Are you a 300 pound porker or something? You know this doesn't actually matter to you if you already think 200 pounders are subhuman trash.

>>8234692
You're so tryhard it makes me cringe. This is coming from someone on your side in terms of what the argument was originally about.

>>8234712
I don't really care, anon.
I'm arguing anonymously on the internet.

>>8234688
I'm sorry that no matter how many times you say it, it won't make it true

>>8234698
>But calling other fatties out on needing to lose
The difference is she's lost weight. Obviously she tries to look good in lolita. It's weird how you can't accept that.

I'm not a fan of her attitude at this point but you aren't innocent here. You have standards and so does she. What you're saying isn't fair.
Just because I weigh 160 doesn't mean I have to tolerate anyone else who weighs 50 pounds heavier than me.

>>8234692
I'm not even the same anon. I would never use a term like bbw. It implies someone your size has the capability of being beautiful.

>>8234717
If you didn't care, you wouldn't still be here replying and telling people you don't care when obviously you do

>>8234698
>fatties have to defend jumbo fatties
Is there a secret fattie congress I'm unaware of? Nobody needs to defend other fatties just because they're also fat.
Do you also defend skinny people who squeeze into dresses and complain about how out of shape they are just because you're the same weight?

>>8234742
Same could be applied to you m8

>>8234746
I don't have a dog in this fight, but why would a skinny person need to 'squeeze into' anything?

>>8234737

>>8234750
Actually, no it can't because I've never said anything about not caring or being done with the thread. That's all you, sweetie.

>>8234756
You idiot.
>has never seen a desperate size 6 try to squeeze into a size 2 dress

>>8234765
>legitimately caring about this thread
You're funny.
I love being fat, looking better than you, and not being this anally annihilated.

>>8234766
Right okay, sorry. I'm really small so I don't know what it's like. Carry on.

>>8234770
Are you flat chested too?

>>8228897
If the outfit on the left were worn by a Japanese girl it wouldn't look out of place at all. With the exception of the headdress, I really like it as a toned down aristocrat/classic goth coord. It's not really lolita but as a wizened, old goth, I like it.

>>8234756
One size brand can run really small and pretty much anyone with big boobs has to be careful about what they buy. I'm very thin, but I also have 28Gs, so I have to really watch the bust area of dresses or else it gets bad.

>>8234771
No not really. Just a very small skeleton. It was a dumb question, sorry everybody. Sorry.

>>8234622
>mfw there's not anything shitty about either of these coords

>>8234768
>I love being fat, looking better than you
ALERT Fallacy Found

Different anon but dear god I do love how defensive and upset you fat chicks get. Your tears are as sweet as the milk pudding pastry we skinny girls can eat while still looking baller in a bathing suit.

>>8234787
>everything metaphorical is always about food
Why do self-proclaimed "thin" chicks on cgl do this? You always talk about consuming things that aren't possible. Go eat something if you're this subconsciously hungry. God damn.

>>8234622
my complaint is the background/scenery doesn't match the outfits at all so they look super out of place

>>8234768
>I love being fat, looking better than you, and not being this anally annihilated
Please stop pretending your somehow less mad than everyone else in the thread, it's almost as pitiful as saying you look better than someone you've never even seen when you're 200lbs.

>>8234787
>ALERT Fallacy Found
Hehe, look how mad you are.

Oh well, not like YOU'LL POST A PIC to prove it, right? :^)

>>8234792
>200 pounds
Aw, and you can't read either.
I look better and have better reading comprehension too!
lmao

non planetoid shaped people, what's your favourite fattie battle cry?

>>in b4 'Marilyn Monroe was oversized too!11' Ladies I saw the famous white dress MM wore, that chick was human sized stfu.

>>8234801
My new one?
"I'm fat and look good in lolita."
100 replies, guaranteed.

>>8234790
What exactly is impossible about consuming a milk pudding pastry? Now you're just not even making sense.

And what is it with fatties always accusing thin girls of being starved or hungry? I eat more than most fatties probably do and weigh 110lbs at 5'6.

>>8234790
>You always talk about consuming things that aren't possible. Go eat something if you're this subconsciously hungry.

This is my favourite fattie battle cry.

You guys do realise we eat whenever we're hungry, right? We just don't eat enough in one sitting to feed an entire subcontinent. I've never once dieted or said "I will not eat __food__ until I reach __weight__" and yet I have never broken over 107.

You can eat whatever the hell you want, just do it in moderation and for the love of christ try doing some walking at least.

>>8234807
>I eat more than most fatties probably do
Bitch no you don't. Collect your starved delusional no-ass and sit it down outside.

>>8234808
>107
You sound like an underage humblebragger.
Go eat something.

>>8234804
This. Using this one from now on.

>>8234800
My reading comprehension is just fine. You said you were 180, that's basically 200. Also, I don't really get the point of the "I'm better looking!" nonsense. It's honestly just really sad.

I look better than all fatties. The irony is I eat more than them most of the time and I've never weighed over 100 pounds.
Pic related, it's me.

>>8234815
>>Go eat something.

I intend to! Got a massive hankering for pizza with tomatoes, so pizza with tomatoes it is. Then I'm going to go play some tennis and hark, lo and behold. Tomorrow when the sun rises, me and half the people in this thread will *still* weigh less than half your gunt.

>>8234825
>that's basically 200
Lolno.
I bet you think 120 "is basically" 100. Fuck off retard.

>>8234827
oh god she's gotten worse since the last time i saw her posted.. poor girl.

>>8234808
You're going to eat your words five years down the line when your metabolism slows down, kid.

>>8234827
You keep telling yourself that we all look like that while you sob sadly over pictures of fannyrosie.

>>8234801
Marilyn Monroe wasn't even the slightest bit chubby, I will never understand why fatties try to use her as their poster girl.

>>8234829
>Got a massive hankering for pizza with tomatoes
Wow, how daring. Will there be pepperoni too or just veggies for your health-conscious figure? Have fun cunt.

>>8234838
>pictures of fannyrosie
You think you look like fanny? Post pics please. Prove it. If it's true you shouldn't have a problem proving it.

>>8234827
I screamed irl. Go to /x/ with that shit.

>>8234837
>when your metabolism slows down
I'm a skinnychan too, but this, honestly.
Ever notice how most 30+ year old women have a little pudge? That's not from their diet, that just happens with metabolism. Moderate your eating habits as you get older.

>>8234837
Not likely. I'm over 25. I eat whatever I want, just make sure to get all my nutritional needs from foods (Vitamins A, C and iron are my big ones) and stick to 1500 calories a day if I'm trying to maintain. Anyone can have a krispie kream or a giant burger if they want without getting fat.

It really isn't hard. I know the diet industries out there make it seem like its this gargantuan task that is impossible without 100s$ worth of material, but it really isn't hard. Fruits, veggies and protein set me back about $60 a week.

>>8234836
Who is this?

>>8234825
>You said you were 180, that's basically 200.
Haha, you're such a basic bitch.
20 pounds is a difference.

>>8234813
Nigger, do you not understand how metabolism works? Some people can stuff their face all day err day with whatever the fuck they want and not gain weight. Have you never heard of people who can't gain more than a few pounds no matter how hard they try, even though they don't have an illness or anything? if you have a normal metabolism, you can eat whatever you want as long as you exercise enough.

It's really not as impossible not to be fat as a lot of you seem to think...

>>8234853
Are you the same girl who threatened to eat a TOMATO PIZZA?
Being 100 pounds at 25 is underweight unless you're short. I'm sure you eat well below 1500 calories to maintain that weight.

It's okay though.
Fatties who claim they are the way they are underestimate how much they eat like how you overestimate.

>>8234845
I think that's why you guys are fat. How do you guys down these massive calorie bombs like a pizza with nineteen toppings and a big gulp of soda and breadsticks and fries and whatever the hell else in one sitting, and then do it again for your next meal? Don't you ever get that feeling that you're so full you're going to be sick? You guys obsess over us and food, but how do you guys even enjoy food when you're so busy inhaling eighteen layers of cheese you probably couldn't even tell me what your food tasted like?

>>8234862
>have hypoglycemia
>have fast metabolism on top of that
>can hardly gain weight
>26in waist without exercise
>get in accident
>bedridden for 4 months
>only gain 15lbs
>gain 1in in waist
>shed it in 1 month after I can walk around again
>tfw errybody jelly

>>8234862
>Nigger, do you not understand how metabolism works?
Scuse me nignog, but I know if some fatass claimed muh metabolism itt people would call their ass out on the same bullshit.
Calories in = calories out.
No excuses unless you have a documented medical disorder or medication.
You don't eat shit.

>>8234837
This is what everyone says to those with high metabolisms. People used to always tell my mother this when she was younger and she's a whopping five pounds more at 40 than she was at 20.

And even if that were the case, there's this magical thing called exercise.

>>8234867
>nineteen toppings on pizza
What's wrong with that if they're mostly vegetables? You mean to tell me you don't eat a pepperoni pizza with at least cheese, onions, mushrooms, peppers, olives, and spinach?
Sorry you're a pizza pleb. It's not my fault you don't live because you'd rather weigh 100 pounds at 25.

>>8234870
>Calories in = calories out
nope.

>>8234834
Different anon, but the higher your number, the less 20lbs makes a difference. The difference between 100 and 120 is a lot more noticeable than 180 and 200. It's not that ridiculous that they just said 200 instead.

>>8234730
Just as if I weigh 110-120, I don't need to tolerate 160-180? That's still pretty damn tubby under 5'5. I called attention to it because fat Anon gets mad when we say generally that fatties don't look good in lolita because it looks stuffed more often than not, yet considers herself the exception to that with very weak evidence. 'I did not outright get called a cow in my carousel dress (yet) so I must be the unicorn exception'. I know a chick kind of like this and honestly, we just don't say anything to her because her ego is as fat as she is and she's an argumentive twit. Kind of like here. Her bad attitude like this is just going to carry over even if she does get thinner so it's no use. Thank goodness most fatties have the native sense to stay contained in the fatshion thread here.

>>8234883
Yes. No exceptions unless you have a medical condition or a medication that fucks with your metabolism or digestive system.

>>8234889
>different anon
Oh, I doubt that.
>there's no difference between 180 and 200
Whatever you have to keep telling yourself that.
I'm sure one day you'll wish you could drop 20 pounds. That's like more than a dress size.

>>8234883
Doesn't a higher metabolism just mean that your calories burn faster?
So it'd still be in = out.
R-Right?

>>8234861
When I'm 110, sorry, 180 looks a lot like 200. The difference is relative. A little less fat isn't that big a deal or difference if you aren't a fatty watching out for it. Describing someone as 'yeah, 180-200, something like that' is not that unusual. Too fat.

>>8234890
>I called attention to it because fat Anon gets mad when we say generally that fatties don't look good in lolita because it looks stuffed more often than not, yet considers herself the exception to that with very weak evidence.

And that matters to you because...?

>>8234870
The level of which you don't know what the fuck you're talking about is very impressive. It's Biology 101 that people's metabolism varies widely and some are luckier than others. Google it FFS.

>>8234905
You'd notice a difference in your body if you woke up the next morning weighing 130. You'd probably had gained at least two pant sizes.

>>8234907
So you don't pick on fatties who claim to have slow metabolisms or medications that make them fat? Right?

>>8230114
They're greasy and delusional, and don't notice the smell anymore. I've never seen one of these "healthy hair" people who didn't have a grease helmet going.

>>8234897
>I doubt that
Calling same gag because someone disagrees with you? Really?

I'm sorry, but saying 200 instead of 180 isn't that ridiculous. If you need to convince yourself only one person could possibly think that way, whatever.

>>8234877
Equating 'living' to eating garbage gourmet pizzas. That's what we call them here, those pizzas with lots of crap on them. And they are still full of fat, salt and carbs. Yuk. I eat a slice of a really good pizza occasionally but truthfully, I like better food than that.

>>8234916
Not if they're not obviously just using it as an excuse not to try to lose weight.

>>8234924
>but saying 200 instead of 180 isn't that ridiculous
It is ridiculous. I'm embarrassed that you think this way.

>>8234925
>WAH PIZZA IS FULL OF SALT AND CARB
Then don't eat it? Nobody eats pizza because they're feeling healthy. Just go eat a slice of tomato and some cheese.

>>8234910
The difference is much more noticeable when the number is smaller like that, though. With skinny bitches, you notice if they gain 5 pounds. Fatties have to gain/lose a lot before it's visible.

>>8234919
You can slowly train your head to produce less surface oil, if someone is washing every day,and the rest of their body skin is not super-oily, they usually have their scalp over-producing oils. I'm not one for the no wash or be greasy thing at all but unless you are an oily skinned person or use a ton of hair products, washing every 3-4 days is good balance.
I have dry, fine hair. Fresh washed day my hair is fluffy, won't hold a curl, so I leave it long, straight and brushed (elbow length with a fringe). Second day, I do some styling with light product, third day, any style that requires more body to hold the style, 4th day updo depending on if it still looks good in day 3 style. 5th day, updo or updo with hat if I haven't washed it by then. But mine rarely gets 'greasy at all, just product build-up.
I used to wash it every day and my ends were frizzy and my scalp did get oily.

>>8234944
I'm more embarrassed by the fact you don't see why that's not a huge enough difference to get butthurt over.

>>8234907
False. The variation in individual metabolisms is actually very small. YOU Google that shit.

>>8234955
Who's getting butthurt? It's sad that you don't think 20 pounds is a difference. It would be funny if you lost that amount of weight, saw difference in your body, and some asshole came along and was like ~keknbd~

>>8234959
Can't tell if trolling or just painfully wrong. It's just a straight up fact that there are people who can eat whatever they want without weight gain. How have you never heard about this before?

http://www.earlytorise.com/fast-metabolism/

>>8234970
I lost 40lbs when I was 16. Sorry I still don't think someone saying 200 when you're 180 is anything to get your panties in a twist over.

>>8234994
But they were 240 and now they are 180.
I think 60 pounds is more weight lost than 40. I think someone who recently lost 60 pounds probably notices details more vividly than someone who lost some fat in high school.

>>8234994
That's a shitry website. Try this one that actually has cited sources

examine.com/faq/does-metabolism-vary-between-two-people.html/

>>8234907
>people's metabolism varies widely and some are luckier than others.

This in a thread where people are showing genuine horror and shock that someone could eat pizza with ~only one topping on it? Seriously?

>pic related

>>8235010
But there was never any discussion about the difference between 240 and 180, they're talking about the difference between 180 and 200. The fact she went from 240 to 180 isn't really relevant.

>>8235418
It's relevant in the sense that she likely exercised to get down to that weight and hence a 20 pound difference via exercising and reducing bodyfat percentage probably yields more noticeable results than people who just do a calorie deficit.

There's no reason to be shitty to someone for losing 20 pounds, which is good work either way, just because you don't like what they said on 4chan. You're wrong.

>>8234854
Ashley something something, a pro-ana blogger and former camwhore on /b/. She has multiple threads on lolcow, go look her up.

>>8234854
>>8236046

her tumblr is
>http://shred-my-anxiety.tumblr.com/

I just don't understand....