/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8470782
Is this going to be released next week? I'm already predicting it'll get a MTO.

>>8470374
If you're still looking, I'm selling a planetary dreamer OP in lacemarket :P

>>8470809
I don't think a release date's officially been set yet, plus it got pushed back a couple of times already.

>>8470782
I really hope I have enough money saved in the next three months to be able to get Classic Fairy Tales second hand.
Gawd, why is RIGHT NOW the time everything is happening and all of the bills and shiz.

>>8470851
Same anon, same.
I'm happy it wasn't as popular as other releases...might not go up in price.

I am in love with the socks and jumperskirtt but i just can't buy any dresses right now.

>>8470851
green jsk will be most popular. it will probably stay retail and the rest wont

>>8470859
I can't decide, I think I like the blue the most. But really I'll take anything that I can get, that's how much I love this print.

>>8470871
>implying brown isn't the best

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do you guys try and increase your coording abilities? I feel like my coords are fine albeit boring at times, and I am just wearing the same thing so often.
Do you do coord challenges? Or is it better to post online and ask for concrit..? Or are there exercises you do online sometimes, like collages?

>>8470927
Making collages help and playing online dressup games is a easy why to experiment and find unexpected combination ideas.

I also find it best to keep pictures of the items I own in a easy to find place so I can consult with what I have when I decide to buy something new and try to figure out what I can make work with it.

>>8470927
I generally look to others' coord posts online. IMO it's really helpful to see how others put together outfits, as they might go about coording things in ways that I wouldn't have thought of. If I see something that I think is really creative, I save it, and I've compiled a pretty extensive inspo folder. I look at it whenever I get really stuck.
Also, shelbycloud's coord tips video is a great resource.
I only post in the coord help thread if I'm completely at a loss, as I think the best way to improve is to try to come up with things on your own.

Have you ever made a coord that you thought was cute and then put it on and felt disgusting?

>>8470933 >>8470931
ok, that helps a lot, thank you anons!

Another tangentially related question, how long do you plan out your coord beforehand? I guess I think about coords for really big events before i go to a thing if I have to pack, but what about for small comm meets and the like

>>8470956
All the time. I usually have to change the blouse because it just doesn't look right with the JSK or skirt once it's on my body and not on the hanger.

>>8470927
Looking at wardrobe posts and videos gives me a lot of inspiration on how to expand my own wardrobe so I can buy things that'll be more practical and "mix and match" worthy.

>>8470958
For me, I like to plan months ahead of time for a coord for a huge event (like ILD meetups) and actually buy stuff I need a week or two beforehand. However, if it's for a small meet, like dinner plus karaoke for example, then I'll usually throw together a coord based on what I have the day before. Sometimes I'll even decide my coord the day of the meetup.

>>8470927
Honestly I think coord collages suck. You get obsessive over colors that don't even match in real life and what's really important is how it looks on your body, not next to each other.

>>8470922
God that looks like some fucking embroidery painting from the olden days. Grandma kei, fuck that shit.

>>8470842
That shit better come out in August so I can get it for my birthday

>>8471044
Funny, I thought the opposite, too childish like a kid's book illustration. A nice one but still, pretty juvenile.

Should I even bother trying to order from the IW sale? I want the crown jewels sack looking OP in navy, a headbow, and the union jack socks in ivory. None of them are 'few left' but I dunno.
Otherwise cesky sack OP and matching socks.

>>8471040

Agreeing with this so much. Collages should really only be the ideas generation stage, not the blueprint for the final coord.

>>8470956

This happens less often if you know your wardrobe, you know how the clothes fit on you already and therefore can guess how they will layer over each other.

>>8471040
Agreed... and because I can't visualise shit when it's on a computer. It has be laid out on my bed for me to start coording it properly.

>>8471053

You can try using a shopping service so that the order goes through the Japanese site with the shopping cart system instead of the English one. I keep thinking if they have a shopping cart system then surely they must have stock for it, they can't be falling all over themselves explaining how each item is out of stock for Japanese customers ordering with the cart system.

I just put in an order via frmojapan for a couple of boleros this morning. I can update whether the order is successful or not if people are interested.

>>8471077
I already have a fromjapan order going on so that sounds like a good idea! I didn't even know they had a cart. Update with results please.

>>8471081

Yeah, the Japanese site operates on a shopping cart system. I once went almost all the way through (was going to send the items to Tenso), but they don't accept international credit cards, just a bunch of Japanese ones and COD. So we're stuck using shopping services to order from them, or the shitty English form.

Someone needs to suggest to IW that they get their site to accept international cards. If girls can order via the shopping cart system that would save us so much heartache and save IW the trouble of hiring girls to manually shift stock around for their international customers.

Maybe I missed some posts on CoF or at other places but I still haven't seen anyone wearing AP University serie, though it was released quite some time ago, now. Were all the dresses bought by chinese girls ? Anyone has pics ?

>>8470782
I still can't believe I missed it. The navy colorway was one of the fave I guess.

>>8470956
I took photos of my coords laid flat, posted them on Tumblr and they got hundreds of notes.

I put the exact same coord on and look in the mirror and just felt like I looked like shit.

Tried a different day, still not feeling it.

Left my dresses hanging in my wardrobe for months then sold it all cos while I could coord, I felt like ass wearing lolita.

>>8470782
What's the dress in the OP? It's cute.

>>8471155
Dang that's really ugly

How long does it take IW to confirm an order?

Wait.. so they forgot to post the submission post until today? That's ridiculous

>>8471347
They won't confirm, respond to, or send any orders on a weekend, so they'll start up again Monday, but it's really all over the place. If your items are sold out, then you'll hear back within a day, but if they have them you should have your invoice within 4 days. At least that's how it's been for this sale season, usually it's a minimum of one week before you're invoiced.

>>8471044
I also saw grandma kei. My dreams to be a curtain will be realized, apparently.

>>8470839
The one in Size S? She actually saw that but it's too small for her. Thank you and good luck, I know someone will snatch it up quickly.

>>8471389
So I guess thumbs up for my order, haven't got a reply from them for 3 days.

>>8471044
I actually love that about it... Not my style to wear, but interesting to look at if coordinated properly. In like an IW kind of way.

I want both planetarium and sanctuary but I can only choose one.... oTL

>>8471553
That's unfortunately not what that means, as I've found out. It's thumbs up stuff was in when they got your order, but they'll put off invoicing you for a couple days and won't hold your order, so it will still sell out. If you look on the website and thins you've ordered now say sold out and you didn't get an invoice, then you didn't get your stuff.

People really do shit like this? That's so fucking tacky. Pay for the dress you over bid on or take the negative feedback for being a flake. Shit like this shouldn't be allowed.

>>8471086
I heard about lolita's doing this, but getting the same result as they did with the English side of the site. Has anyone had better luck with this? I sadly think it's just stock and staff issues, not something that can be fixed so easily with a cart.

>>8471589
I'm pretty sure that this is the second time this person has done that.

>>8470956
Always. I'll plan out a coord in my head for a week before a meet, usually lay out the clothes the night before, but never put it on until right before I have to leave and have sudden last minute panic because it doesn't look the way I imagined it. I know this could be so easily prevented but I never learn.

>>8471223
AP's upcoming Dreamy Planetarium.

>>8471589
Is this an elaborate scheme to make the bidding higher for an item?
>seller makes sock account
>bids high with it
>"abloobloo someone save me"
>someone's empathy gets played
>seller gets more than their asking price

>>8471573
>If you look on the website and things you've ordered now say sold out and you didn't get an invoice, then you didn't get your stuff.

That's not necessarily true. Last winter sale, which was similarily chaotic, a bolero i wanted said sold out and i still got an invoice for it a week or so later.

>>8471595
It sounds from earlier replies like even Japanese lolitas are getting slow service now and are getting fed up with it, so I'm inclined to think you're right.

>>8471692
I'm just speaking on what has happened to me twice so far in this sale.

>>8471723
Yeah this sale seems even more ridiculous than the last and i'm sorry that it happened to you. I didn't mean to say your wrong or lying, just that even though it says sold out there might still be a chance to get it. Sorry if it came across the wrong way.

>>8471752
Don't worry, it didn't come off that way! Their system is just so all over the place that there's no telling what could happen/is happening.

This could have been fixed so easily

>>8471791
This print is like AP trying desperately to be Innocent Babymorphose and not really grasping what makes any single one of them great. I hope they stay away from cluttered prints like this in the future. I don't see their weird classic-sweet prints selling out as well as their normal sweet stuff lately. I agree about the lacing on this too, anon.

Baby and IW win the fawn print contest to me. It's so much easier to focus on a single thing in the Bambi print than it is on AP's. Everything is so dark colored with Classic Fairy Tales.

>>8471791
Yes and you can fix all oldschool by just making the contrast lace black or red or whatever the dress is.

>>8471807
That's the charm of the dress for me though. I'm not real big on AP's prints I like their solid colored dresses way more. I however really like cluttered up prints that stray towards completely tasteless (meta as my fave prints after all). This dress to me feels so much like AP trying to do Meta trying to do Baby.

>>8471791
I actually like the contrasting lace. It gives it an almost old-school floral feel. Wish there was more white on the skirt to balance it out though.

>>8471811
>implying fixing the colors isn't the main point

Has anybody else done KonMari for their lolita wardrobe? I'm honestly kind of freaked out by how much stuff I put in the sell pile. Like probably 1/3-1/4 my wardrobe. But at the same time, I feel kind of relieved and excited.

secrets are up. kinda boring though

>>8471589
how lazy just make a sock account and outbid yourself

>>8471374
Couldn't they hire more mods ?

>>8471890
Maybe they will soon? They've had some trouble the past few weeks.
>tfw I just want to be a mod

>>8471155
How difficult is it to remove the big waist bows on AP jsks without damaging the dress? I like this dress but it's so busy and between the corset lacing, the little chest bow and the big waist bow, it's overkill for me.

>>8471818
It is honestly nice to see brands mix it up every now and then and try looks you don't normally see with them. Every time I've commented this dress looks like one brand, people will say another. (Meta, Baby, IW, etc.) I definitely see why someone who likes Meta would enjoy this, though.

>>8471877
I thought this one was hilarious.

>>8471910
Aren't the big waist bows usually detachable anyways? If not it shouldn't be too difficult. They're usually attached with a couple stitches that a seam ripper could easily pick apart.

>>8471910

Piece of cake (so long as you're not clumsy). Grab the seam ripper and pull slightly on the bow, they usually use 2-3 threads at once so it'll be pretty visible. You should start with the wings and then do the middle. The bow is always finished really nicely and you can sew it onto a hairclip if you want to reuse it.

>>8471918
I thought this was a "is the dress blue and black or white and gold" thing again from the thumbnail.

>>8471918
Thanks anon. I made that.

>>8471918

I love that putrid versions more but jfc the bow ruins it. And the fact that it's called putrid...

I've got my graduation next week and I'll be wearing this Moitie JSK. Will there be enough room under the academic gown for an a-line petti or should I leave it off until afterwards?

>>8471871
Sorry if noob question, but what's KonMari?

>>8471918
God this could have been such a neat idea if it just didn't look like that.

>>8471965
They are two different cuts and colorways. You can get the dress on the right in putrid.

>>8471040
I agree. Often outfits that look good irl don't translate well to collages because the items look unbalanced or unmatching separated out/laid flat. Floordinates are better, but you need to have good lighting.

>>8470927
I actually found that taking photos and looking at them made it easier to pick out what was off about my outfits. Also looking at a million pictures of other people and how their outfits went together.

>>8471155
I really like the border print, but I hate the rest of the dress and the bows.
I'm thinking about getting the skirt version maybe. It would be cute to wear in the fall.

>>8471967
No, the gowns are pretty low volume and if you stuff it with a petticoat it looks ridiculous and lumpy.

>>8472004
Alright, I'll take the petti with me and change into it after I give the gown back. Thanks!

>>8471871
I did KonMari for everything I own, including my lolita. I'm much happier, and my wardrobe is much more cohesive. I'm not hanging on to any of those notorious pieces that you just love and are so cute, but you never feel right in them. I've also found that I'm much choosier about what I buy these days and can more easily pass up popular or hyped pieces, or even pieces I like at first glance, but am unsure of after consideration. Now when something pops up that really wows me and I can't stop thinking about it, I have the money to buy it because I didn't buy lesser pieces.

>>8471969
google can help, but basically it's minimizing your wardrobe by holding each piece individually and try to feel if you should keep it or not

>>8471926
I don't think AP's big waist bows are usually detachable actually. I often see the waist ties being listed as removable but not the bows on websites like lolibrary.

>>8471929
Cool, thanks. I bought a jsk from another brand with bows I didn't like thinking I could just remove them, but they were sewn on so well and tight that there was no way I think I'd be able to do it without leaving holes. I was worried this one might be like that.

Does IW combine orders for shipping? I haven't got my order confirmed yet and would make another.

>>8472138
If you ask and they haven't processed it yet they have been known to combine orders.

>>8472138
Just make a note on your new order. Last time I ordered I asked nicely to combine the two in the note section of the order form and they did.

Finally got my IW LP. overall, kinda meh... Don't think I'm a fan of their older stuff. I'm gonna try to make some of the things work, though, like the 19th Century France OP. Angel Blouse is cute as fuck, though. Super stoked about that.

Might wait a bit before selling because I don't really know if people would be interested in any of this stuff. Thoughts?

>>8472286
If you weren't going to keep 19th Century France, I would've been interested if it was the long cut.

>>8472306
...This is the most hypothetical non-comment, lol

>>8472306
Yeah, I just tried it on. It's long as fuck (it hits mid-calf to for me and I'm 5'6"). I'll definitely make a sales post later!

How accurate are the measurements for AP cutsews? AP says the bust is "about 80 cm".I have a 90cm bust and I was wondering if I would explode out of one.

Pic related, this is the one I'm thinking of getting.

how long does it take for Chibi tenshi to answer emails?

>>8472516
she's been a little busy i think as of late, but normally less than 24 hours. she's pretty on top of things but just be patient.

is anybody else having trouble commenting on BtB? I can't see the captcha. It's been unusable on my phone for awhile but now I'm on my PC and can't comment either...

>>8471791
You made it worse anon

>>8471871
I'd set them aside and out of sight for a month before I made any decision to actually sell them off. Then you'll really know. I think KonMari for initially sorting though things is a good method though. I may do it with some of my things that I seem to have too much of.

>>8470956
>>8471201
Exact same. 6000 notes on tumblr, sadness in my heart. Ended up selling most of it because it all looked so bad on me.

>>8472286
Hnggg I actually like the Francine OP! Do you ship to Australia?

>>8471599
Same so much. I have a few fallback coords that are very simple and I wear on a more daily basis - if a coord is totally fucked up I just revert to one of those.

>>8472505
My bust is about 86 cm and that cutsew fits me fine (except for being tight around the arms, but that's a different issue). While it probably could stretch the extra 4cm, I don't know if it would look very good.

What is this bitch on?

>>8472744
probably just already arranged a sale to another girl

>>8472741
thanks anon!

>>8471877
What are other peoples thoughts on this? The thing about the factory is kind of stupid as they live in the same area so its not that unrealistic or strange if she did but their overall aesthetics are jarringly similar.

>>8472030
Original konmari anon here, I'm really glad to hear from you! About how much did you get rid of (total wardrobe and lolita)?
One problem I have is that I will often become fanatical about a new piece, but after a week or two want to get rid of it. I guess with the resell value of lolita it's not the worst problem. Does this happen to you?
Also, basics. I'm getting rid of my only basic white bluse and I truly feel it's the right decision, but at the same time, I kinda need it. I just hope I make enough money back to buy better versions of the basics I am getting rid of.

>>8472798
They look similar because they're basic cuts.
Even if one was copying the other I wouldn't care. This shit's my style and I'm glad more than one indie brand is producing it.

>>8472798
I see their point but indie brands in general tend to come off boring to me. A lot of them will use very similar stock bodices.

Need some help, gulls.
>friend orders some stuff along with my order on my FJ account
>she orders a ton of heavy stuff, think tea sets, dishes, glass, among other weighty things
>stuff I ordered doesn't compare weightwise to what she does (accessories mostly, one skirt, and a few gyaru pieces)
>assures me she'll pay for the majority of the shipping since the bulk is clearly hers
>fast forward to now
>friend's source of the rest of the order payment is now gone, along with her need/desire for the items she ordered
>stuck with her massive order now
The time limit to keep these items in the FJ warehouse is running out and I can't exactly afford to ship out her stuff, nor do I want to. What do?

Can I just leave the items there forever and FJ will just try to resell them or are they going to try and force me to ship the rest of the stuff out plus warehouse fees?

>>8472826

FJ will destroy/discard the items if you ask them. It'll come up as a special shipment in your account.

Does anybody know of sailor style dresses that would work on someone taller (177 cm)?

I love sailor style, but every dress I end up liking ends up being 85 cm long or something that will just end up looking like a miniskirt.

I'm really tempted to buy the new Peppermint Fox release when it comes out. I know that the crown print had some factory and fabric issues, but now that they've improved as a business,what is the quality and fit like?

>>8471828
I agree, it's a visit to old school lolita which I missed out on. Looking forward to the heavy cotton material instead of those horrible flimsy snag prone polyester AP dresses.

>>8472847
Good! I bought their newest print Tea Society in Ivory. It seems they have switched fabrics to something more sturdy and it holds the print better, i don't think it will run. I don't know what the fabric is called but it's pretty nice. It fits me very well too. My only complaint, and i have had this with every Pep Fox dress i have owned, is that the waistband sort of pops out weirdly, like where the skirt is attached it sticks out if that makes sense. It might just mean i need to iron it or something but i usually wear a light petticoat with the dress so it balances out.

>>8472884
May I ask where you purchased your petti from? I really love small pettis with otome because I prefer the silhouette, but the cut of Peppermint Fox's dresses looks unaccommodating for a petti.

>>8472505
Please don't try to squeeze into too-small cutsews. It looks even worse than usual because it's a knit fabric. +10cm over a size listed just means it's too small. Accept it and get something that will fit and look nice on you.

>>8472798
Construction on Peppermint fox stock photos look terrible.

>>8472890
I own two, and the construction is really solid. They do need better photos though.

Got my moitie lucky pack today. It included:
1x OP
1x JSK
1x Blouse/Cutsew
1x Necklace (Funnily enough I actually had been eyeing it in kera)
1x Lipstick in a brown red colour (sadly not blue or black)

Not bad, although I don't like the OP, JSK not too sure. Better luck than another luckypack where I received an item I had already bought 1 month before.

>>8472798
The thing is, the girls that run these brands are friends, and they often get together outside of meets. They are both otome brands and that can lead to similarities but i don't think Kavya is trying to copy them directly. That cut of dress is pretty standard and i thought it was pretty funny that people on LU were arguing whether or not the Mulberry Chronicles dress was suitable and that it looked like it was from Hot Topic but people fawn over Pep Fox releases. I think once she does a couple more releases she might gain some popularity, i think she jumped the gun releasing a print so soon when she hasn't even released that many accessories yet. I don't think they use the same factory to produce their garments either, Pep Fox uses an overseas manufacturer iirc so it's highly unlikely. The girls both have their own personal studio where they make the accessories too, so they are all handmade. The person who's making these secrets is just salty imo.

>>8472886
Honestly it's just a shitty old Leg Avenue petti i got years ago, i think it's similar to this one, but it's so old it's probably deflated heaps now

>>8472830
Ok thanks anon. Do they still charge you for domestic shipping of the item you want discarded though? I'm not looking to pay for that either.

>>8472919

You'll still be charged domestic shipping. You'll have to find a way to recover the cost from your friend.

>>8470927
Having a huge wardrobe really helps lol
I think it's useless to coord things before you get the dress. I personally always get a piece, and try it on with all the blouses I have that could possibly work. And by then, I'll know exactly what kind of blouse cut and color I want, and if I don't have it, I'll try to get one. Sometimes, it may look good in your mind or in a collage, but it doesn't work irl. That's happened to me multiple times.
If you're bored with the same white blouse and otks + color jsk + accent color shoes and bag, I'd try inverting the colors, with dark blouse and socks with light shoes, or try eliminating a color you always use. If it's a solid color piece, I'd try shoehorning another more interesting color in. Something else that's fun is to base a coord around a weird bag or blouse, instead of basing the coord off a print like most of the time.
I think having a few main pieces and a lot of basics is important. You get a lot more wear out of a piece when the whole coord is the outfit, not just the main piece.

>>8472798

There's a very crucial difference for me: the mulberry mushroom dress is being marketed as being suitable for both otome and lolita, it's been shown with a lighter petticoat under it. Meanwhile, pepfox's dresses are much narrower and shorter, the brand has said over and over again that they're an otome brand, not lolita. I don't even know if the pepfox dresses work for lolita, I've never seen one worn in a proper lolita coord with a petticoat. I guess it's a detail that most folks don't care about, for me, I've discovered that a poofy lolita skirt hides my chunky thighs very well, which means pepfox dresses are entirely out for me: the shorter length + lack of poof will look bad on me.

So while I'm never going to buy a pepfox dress, the mulberry mushroom dress looks promising. I'm waiting to hear specific details before I commit to a purchase, but the photos show a good amount of skirt to bodice, it's already been shown with a light petti underneath it, and the dresses have pockets.

I'm actually kind of surprised cgl lolitas have not picked up on the difference, pepfox dresses tend to look like mainstream loliable dresses that we regularly tell newbies are not lolita because they're too narrow and too short. The mulberry dress still looks narrow compared to AP, but they do have a proper lolita silhoutte going on at least.

>>8472905
Photos?

>>8472905
How long has it been since they offered lipsticks? I'm also interested in seeing pix.

>>8472728
I'd be willing to! Won't be able to actually put these up for sale for about a month, since I'll be out of the country, but I'll post here first when I do!

How do you go about choosing the rig wig colour of style?

I've only ever had wigs in different shades of my natural hair colour. I'd like to try something different but not sure how to pick the right shade.

>>8472286
Your LP looks really oldschool. I would have liked it. I'm also interested in the Francine OP (if you sell it for relatively cheap). The France OP is also really pretty imo.
Sorry about the cutsew though. The bust looks really weird.

>>8472798
I prefer Pepfox releases to MC's. The gathering on the mushroom dress is weird and the print looks terrible, the collar is also weird. The mushrooms look like cuts with white pus leaking out of it. I hope MC comes out with nicer prints and change their cut, their garments look well made and I would really want to own some.
Their aesthetics are not that similar though, Pepfox's art style is much more delicate and uses muted colors, while MC uses bright and jarring color with clip art looking print.

>>8472942
But cgl haven't been calling Pepfox lolita. It's been discussed over and over that Pepfox is an otome brand.

>>8473233
I disagree. The mulberry mushroom dress is aesthetically pleasing to me in a leur getter sort of way. The fabric looks effing cute from what I've seen so far.

>>8472286
grill I messaged you about selling on twitter when you first mentioned not being crazy about one of the OPs!

Has anyone ordered from wunderwelt before? If so how long does shipping take?

>>8472905
wut, Moitie offered Lucky Packs? When did this happen?

>>8473380

July 3rd scheduled for 6pm Japan time or something. Went up 45 minutes late and sold out in a couple of minutes.

>>8473373
shipping takes about a week

Not sure if I should start a new thread for this, but does anyone have any experience inviting lolita models down to their country for a tea party?
I was wondering what terms and conditions they might have.
We have a moderate sized comm in my country-40 to 50 active members.
But I'm worried that most girls wouldn't be willing to spend for a tea party like that.

>>8473233

That's kind of the point though. With all the noise cgl and pepfox have both made about how narrow and short and totally not lolita pepfox dresses are, you'd think it's the first thing anons would point out rather than comment that "it's a basic cut" for both dresses. When I said I was surprised, I was surprised because cgl is where I followed most of the discussion about whether pepfox is lolita, along with comments on how short and narrow the skirts are.

I can understand if this was the otome or jfash thread where it matters less, but this is lolita general. And one of the brands being compared is completely non lolita. Which makes it a pretty big difference.

I wish AP or Btssb did a popup store in aus.. fuck..

>>8472798
The dress on the left looks like a modcloth dress and the colours don't match the mushroom theme at all. Is it really that hard to do a nice mushroom print? I've yet to see a brand doing the mushroom theme right.

Dress on the right at least has some nice colours, even though I the design ugly as well (but that's personal taste)

>>8471918
What dress is that?

>>8473420
set up a poll first in your comm. then see if you can contact models. there's no use organizing a tea party with lolita models when there are no attendees. or maybe try if members from a neighboring comm/state/country are interested too? that way you have more chances of having enough attendees

>>8473598
That's true. Thanks for the advice anon. Maybe someday in the future!

Does anyone know when the Dream Marine MTO items will arrive? I thought it was supposed to be in mid june?

>>8473606
No, AP said those items should go out late July or early August.

>>8472826
Uhhh tell your friend that she clearly ordered this shit and she needs to pay for the shipping?

>>8472833
pls respond

>>8473635
sweet, thanks! I'm just being impatient.

>>8473280
Oh shit, sorry, I don't think I got it!

>>8472833
http://lolibrary.org/apparel/sailor-long-op
99cm length
http://lolibrary.org/apparel/anchor-charm-long-sleeve-op
92 cm length
Or just search for long OPs/JSKs.

85cm sounds really short.

>>8473654
whoops, 107 length for the first one. That one is even on lacemarket.

>>8472804
I got rid of six dresses and a suitcase of basics and accessories. Sometimes I'll still get tired of a piece more quickly than I tire of others, but like you said, resale value tends to remain high, so it's not a big deal. It's okay if a dress brings you joy for only a while, but then get rid of it once it no longer brings you joy. And this does tend to happen to me less now that I'm choosier about things.

For the blouse, I'd keep it for now. If you've established there are things you don't like about it and you'd prefer not to keep it, that's great, but it's also your only white blouse. Keep it, but make a new white blouse a shopping priority. That said, don't buy a new one until you find one you love. THEN sell the old blouse.

I have no friends and I haven't been outside since Christmas. I've been collecting lolita for about 2 years and have so many coords in my wardrobe all just hanging there.
I am too shy to even taken pictures of myself in them let alone go out to a meetup.
How do I force myself to go to meets, help me I'm desperate.

>>8472798
Aren't these girls both friends with each other? I'm pretty sure we'd hear about drama if there was any between them.

I swear I read that MC was planning to go in a darker/more classic style of lolita while PF is an otome brand.

>>8473111
First go by your skin tone--are you warm, neutral, or cool toned? Different hair colors look better or worse on people based on their undertone. For instance, if you're cool toned (your skin has blue/pink undertones) and you're looking for a blonde wig, get something ashy. If you're warm toned and are looking for a blonde wig, get a warmer/more golden blonde color. Does that make sense?

>>8473380
Is it about the same time every year? And do they do winter lucky packs?

I've purchased packs before I genuinely didn't know Moitie released any. I'm going to save up because that might be a great way to get some good gothic basics.

>>8473702
Okay I have terrible anxiety and here are some good basic steps you can take

>start doing your makeup and getting dressed up even to hang around the house
>next step: wear a toned-down coord to the library or something
>join the online comm for your area if there is one
>go to a meet once you start feeling a little more social and a little better about yourself

good luck anon

>>8473702
If you can't force yourself then see a therapist. If you can't do that then call a depression hotline or something.

Seriously. Depression sucks, I know.

Seems AA&P are doing a print that'll actually work with a hijab

http://www.babyssb.co.jp/reservation/sheherazade/

>>8473782
conflicted
on one hand, I must have it because rimsky-korsakov's sheherazade is one of my fave suites of music and basically my childhood
but on the other hand something about it is just off to me

>>8473782
>Scheherazade print

yes please

>>8473782
Not a fan of the print but I really like the red colour way. The JSK I however looks like it's made for dudes. I don't think even the smallest A cup will fit their boobs in that without them getting cut off by the ribbon.

>>8473782
>dat filename (madoka)
>anon

>>8473782
OH... MY GOD... REMINDS ME OF ALADDIN (MY FAVORITE DISNEY MOVIE)... I THINK I NEED.

So I've been losing weight over the past 6 months or so (35lbs down so far!) and I'm wondering if I should start buying pieces that I see in the meantime until I get to my goal weight? Is this a bad idea? I just don't want to miss out on things! (At this rate it will be another 6 months before I get to my goal...)

What styles would suit a brolita best? I love classic, sailor, and sweet, but I'm not sure what my first coord should be.

pls no bully

>>8473782
Except hijab lolitas always wear the undecorated tights ones unfortuina

>>8473913
This isn't a underbust ribbon but supposed to be on the breast?

>>8473983
A lot of male lolitas seem to wear sweet but honestly, just go with what you like. The important part is that you do your research, take into account whatever masculine features you want to work around when coordinating (eg. height, shoulders, face, etc) and do your makeup and hair right.

>>8473983
honestly, i'd vote for gothic. sweet looks ridiculous on brolitas imo.

>>8473946
Are you close the Max measurements on anything? If you are I'd maybe go for one of those.
When I was loosing weight I liked having one item or two that was too small to start with and I'd try it on every time I lost five pounds. For me it was great motivation.
Also congrats on the weight loss!

>>8474014
I'm not the biggest fan of gothic tbh, I like a little more color. The only thing really going for it for me is that I'm pale which would probably look good.

>>8474006
I definitely want to do my best and not look terrible! Unfortunately I don't really have anyone in my life to talk to about this stuff or mentor/help me out. My biggest worries are my fairly strong jaw and my height. :(

So I am aware its a good bit away still but I'm starting to think about what to wear to ruffle con this year, recently I've changed my wardrobe over to mostly otome and casual AP styled clothes.

I'm worried I'm going to feel super out of place while everyone brings there OTT A game. Do you guys think it would be worth it buying a whole coord or two to wear once and then sell?

>>8474072
Just wear whatever you feel comfortable in, I think. As long as your coord is good, it shouldn't matter. Girls who are in super OTT coords will get more attention, but if you're not particularly interested in fame/attention, I don't see why wearing a simple coord should be a problem.

>>8474072
looking back to the last Lolita event I've been to, you will not be the only person in a more simple coord. Yes, most people put on their most OTT coords with props an all that stuff, but not everyone.
Wear your favorite dress or something like that, just make sure you have a soild coord.

>>8474019
Not a ton of things... I'm 43" in the bust and 33" in the waist :(

And thanks!

>>8473782
This print is so gorgeous that I had a little scream when I saw it earlier. The only issue is that I have tig ol bitties and both cuts of the JSK would totally require a binder... but hey it's going on my list for things I'm going to look for second hand in the coming years.

>>8473782
ugh this is going to spark another shitty gold accessory trend isnt it

>>8474166
>speaking as if it's the only dress doing so

>>8473782
Love JSK1, ESPECIALLY in red, but JSK2 just looks weird to me.

>>8474166
What's wrong with gold?

>>8474195
>another

>>8472905
Lipsticks? Also requesting pics. I'm so glad Moitie is such a lifestyle gothic lolita brand. I saw some candles the other day from them and things like diaries.

Can you link on the website where the lucky pack was? I've never seen, much less heard of it either.

>>8474198
Nothing, just is bad when done looking cheap.

>>8474203
Links please? I'd like to see candles and diaries.

>>8473261
Agree. I find it really appealing. Appealing enough that I might be willing to spend the money on it just for the print. Otherwise I'd never drop cash on something I can make so easily myself.

>>8473233
>the collar is also weird.

...there's no collar on that dress.

>>8473942
Steady on summer.
>>8474061
Do what you want if you have thick skin, but if you're sensitive about what other people say, stick to gothic and classic. That said, even sensitive girls have problems adjusting to wearing such attention grabbing clothes in public.
If you constantly add 'looking for help and critique' to all of your CoF posts and tumblr page, and thank people even for impolite advice, people will come forward and help you.

>>8473782
This is actually the first print AATP has put out in a long time that has made me stop to look. Very pretty, like JSK I, might have to consider getting it.

(Not going to lie- with the teal, lavender and red colorways all in there, makes me think of all of Princess Jasmine's costumes, too...)

Ah fuck, at this point all Ill be buying is baby/aatp prints..


>no ragrets

>>8473983
One tip, don't be a douche.

Too many brolitas are douches.

Lacemarket has got me thinking I might be retarded.

>sign in
>wrong password
>try a bunch of variations, all wrong
>reset password
>use new cool improved password
>wrong password

LM, what?

Does anyone know what JSK this is?

>>8474365
sister maria's humming birds by baby

>>8473992
There's a photo of a model wearing it so judging from that I'd say it's for small, high busts, but the other cut may be more forgiving? Boobloaf chans are going to think otherwise, I'm sure. We will see some ribbon bisections. Ugh. Now I'm not hungry anymore.

>>8474384
Thank you!

I need advice seagulls

Simply, how do you not fuck up an old school coord? What are easy ways to convey the old school vibe without looking too simple? I have a gorgeous 2006 gothic BTSSB dress on the way and since it's my first old school piece I'm honestly lost as to how I should coord this

>>8473782
I'm conflicted. I love the color schemes and the overall aesthetic of the print, but as a Christian I'd feel uncomfortable with Islamic symbolism that's going on there (which is a shame, because the print could have been done without it).

But I hope Aatp continues to do simple and elegant cuts with well balanced prints like this in the future. This style reminds me of their golden era (pre 2011) when their prints were still kind of unique and distinguashable from Btssb.

>>8473983
I think gothic/classic work best, but you can pull off just about any style if you want, even sweet:
http://lovelylor.tumblr.com/post/103504667901/bein-cute-with-trumie-chan

>>8473782

>sheherazade print
>be still my beating heart

But seriously, after spending so much on the JetJ dress, and because I did promise myself I would do less patterns, I'm afraid it's going to have to be a no.

... it still might turn into a yes though.

>>8474447
Don't worry, old school is pretty hard to fuck up
>RHS/Small heel mary janes
>Maxi pad headdress/ cameron headbow from baby
>Plain tights white or black
>Minimal poof

>>8474488
Maybe I'm missing something here but there's nothing in the print that screams Islamic. I mean the closest you can get is the Arabic-looking writing in the books (no clue if it's actually writing or random squiggles) and the architecture.

>>8474561
I'm sorry, but Trumie is a terrible example. Almost everything sweet he's worn has been way too short for him and he needs to stay the hell away from short puffed sleeves.

Gothic and classic are best.

>>8473983
I'd say choose a main piece that you can coord Classic or sweet and try both first. Sailor is kind of a thing by itself but there are many dresses that you can coordinate both sweet and Classic.

>>8472744
I hate when people do this. It ruins sales history.

>>8474166
gold>silver

>>8474166

What do you want your shitty plastic back? Even fake yellowy gold is a step up from that shit.

>>8473782
Finally
>Really tired of all the Europe-themed prints

>>8472744
I'm guessing it's for feedback purposes?

>>8474061
If you are worried about strong jaw and height, I'd say go for classic I think classic is the easiest to incorporate underskirts personally.

>>8473464
Oh yeah. I'd be all on that in a heartbeat.

>>8473588
Elegy's new Eat Your Heart Out print.

>>8472753
Usually it says reserved or notes that it's not a real sales price or something though. No mention of that. In fact, she even wrote that she was going to throw in a shitty little over skirt to sweeten up the deal for the winner.

>>8473563
I could kiss you anon! There have been a few mushroom prints now and none of them have been anything besides mediocre. It makes me so sad because I LOVE mushrooms! They really ruined this dress with the colors. It would have been so much better with a cream or maybe a pistachio color as an alternative. One blue colorway, OK. But two blue colorways? Why?

>>8474716
I love the mushroom dress. Pistachio looks warm toned whereas the navy is cool. It makes sense to me. It's good that you don't like it, it means I have a better chance at snagging one ;)

>>8474685
where are you based? Im in syd, so I'm all for them opening up a pop up store in syd but I do know that Melb has a big comm as well.

>doesn't matter anyway, I'll fly down to line up for anything lolita
>how many first borns do I sacrifice for baby to look down south

>>8473782
It won me with the headdress, the print is gorgeous in itself but I think I will end up getting it just for the headdress.

Anyone had problems with Loli Loli Paradise?
She has mostly good reviews but my first order from her was awful and this one is like pulling teeth.

>>8474943
I've only ordered from them once. The CCS berets, a pink a red one. Very little communication, but I got my items easily.

Though, I think there are some negative reviews.

>>8474814
I'm a few hours away from Sydney but I'd totally travel in for it. But what am I saying, if they did a pop-up in Melbourne I'd fly down for that too like you would. I think any Australian lolita would.

Like, the only thing we've had of note was the Misako tea party, right?

I sent an order form to innocent world on Saturday night and they haven't got back to me yet (I expected this, they only work on weekdays, whatever) but the dress I ordered is now showing as 'out of stock' on their website. Does that mean I didn't get it? I set money aside for it so is it safe to assume I didn't and spend it elsewhere?

wtf innocent world sent me an email saying something was out of stuck, I just checked the website and it says it's still in stock? I'm pissed, I made my order right when the sale started and this is the only response I've heard from them, I'm getting fed up.

>>8475005
Oh man, do we have to write emails to baby/ap to do pop up stores in aus? I think I just pop a quick one to them.

Yeah, and I wasn't in lolita during that time so I would like another fancy tea party soon. I know the sydney comm is doing a fancy twinning meet up/high tea but I'm new and I don't have any lolita friends so :(

>am i doomed to always chicken out from lolita meet ups

>>8475109
A few people aren't twinning
I think a girl's selling her ticket, right?

>>8475101
I made five attempts at ordering and didn't get a single item. Some of the items say still in stock, including both that they emailed me today to say were out of stock. I give up; hoping that shit will show up secondhand soon. Hopefully they'll have enough fed up people convince them to try and run their sales better in the future.

>>8475082
I'd wait for them to confirm with you just in case.

>>8475082
It's pretty safe to say you didn't get it. They aren't holding stock for people in this sale; it's going off of a basis of "you'll get it if we invoice you in time before it sells out in/to Japan".

>>8471871
Nah I can't do the brings me joy thing for my clothes. All of them make me happy if I look at them individually, I just have to be brutal and practical about things

>>8474014
>>8474561
Okay, I was a bit hasty, I've kind of fallen for how good black on black on black can look, but I'm not sure where to go from here. Where can I look for inspiration? Which brands are more known for gothic? Is there a crash course in gothic somewhere? I know I probably sound ridiculous right now, but I'm seriously interested in the fashion. I'll put a throwaway email here if someone would like to help somewhere that's easier to keep track of. Thank you all for the answers!

>>8470922
I just can't like this print. There is way to much going on that it ends up looking like some tacky couch pattern.

>>8475200
Honestly it reminds me of my grandma and her grandma-y smell. I mean if someone likes it, cool, but I just...can't. If this same thing was put out by bodyline people would be trashing it.

>>8473782
Really digging the accessories and blouse. But I wish they made the border print darker for the black colorway so it blended in more.

>>8475109
Hmmm that might actually work...

Neither was I, and I have the same reason for not going, lol. I'm waiting for there to be a larger, more casual meet. The ice-skating one would have been great, but I have no coordination and didn't wan to fall on my arse while trying to make new friends.

>>8475112
Yeah but I don't know everyone so I don't want to that one person with no friends on a table and poking at her phone all lunch.

>want to talk
>get constantly talked over
>why bother.jpeg

>>8475273
... SAME HERE ANON! I have no winter themed prints so I was like welp I don't want to look like that retard that didn't read the meet info and I can't ice skate without looking like my dog wiping her arse on grass.
>also bad memories at that ice skating place

>>8475335
It sounds like you and I rally think alike, anon. Want to add me on facebook? I'm trying to be more out there and make friends...

>>8475354
... yes please. I don't post on facebook a lot because well, meh. But I do lurk on cof/ruffle/etcetc. Dropped my email

I honestly feel like a bad lolita because of my inability to create an OTT coord. My friends do it occasionally, but I just don't have the creativity to put one together.

Their coords are so lovely, but I'm stuck at basic level. It even feels like a couple of them enjoy being "above" me.

>>8475335
I try and make an effort to talk to new people so I guess I'll meet you next time! There was some new girls there and they blended in fine.
And I just dressed casual old school for that, like I always do, nobody's really judgmental/ cares about your outfit really so don't overthink things too much and come and have fun with us!

>>8475190
Honestly, as wishy washy as you are so far in the thread, I think you need more solo research before asking people for help. Much of this is basic research, knowing your tastes and learning your body type and shat looks good. Two things you'll need with any of these though are makeup and wig. Makeup takes practice so that would be my first advice, learn to do that and see how you look, how you handle it.

>>8475446
I'm hoping to pick up my big girl bloomers and meet some lolitas when I go to SMASH! in august --if you're going then? I think the fact that if I fuck up at least I can disappear in the crowds, die of shame in the bathroom and come back composed.

>also I really want some of Pepfox's accessories.

>>8475458
Yeah, modelling. I'm not sure what I'll be wearing yet but we can meet up! (tbh half the reason I'm going is so I can snap up a bunch of cute pepfox and mc accessories when they're not sold out)

>>8475473
ohh I'll be sure to go the fashion show then. Is it on sunday or sat? I'm hoping to go on sat, and get the pepfox stuff kek. I wish the brands had stalls in smash.

>>8475484
Not 100% certain yet, but the fashion show should be on Saturday, so you're good.
Yeah we need to bring them over haha.

>>8475503
I sent them a email about a pop up store or something so you never know...! I'll drop money for even a special set or something..

>oh god imagine a gold and green dream marine
>my sides

>>8475513
I'm sure my dad has shirts like that

So I have a question. I want to get a really nice Christmas-y lolita dress, but I don't want it to look costumey. Meaning.. I want it to look sort of mature, so I guess less frills, more adult-ish and proper. I want to introduce my style to my family, but sweet really wouldn't be appropriate for how stuck up a lot of them can be. Can I have some ideas of dresses I could buy ahead of Christmas, so I ca work on coording it? Thank you!

>>8475591
Are you okay with plain pieces? I think a plain piece in a deep red or green could be coordinated with gold and maybe Christmas themed accessories to be pretty Christmassy yet subtle.
Dresses with gold accents/ coordinating with gold is pretty on trend at the moment so you could pick something without an overt theme.
AP's loyal/ chocolate roset etc. seem christmassy to me, for example. I was thinking plain IW style pieces in relevant colours. Gold lace, jewelery, shoes.

>>8475436
Firstly, there's nothing wrong with not doing OTT. However, if you want to but feel you can't I have only one suggestions: Look at other people doing similar themed/styled OTT coords and see what elements they have in common e.g. similar jewellery pieces, do they have matching socks to the dress etc.

>>8475591
>>8475627
I like this, for example. It would seem festive/ seasonal at a Christmas party, but it could pass elsewhere as well and you wouldn't have to put it away for the rest of the year.

Is military an actual sub-genre or just a theme?

>>8475690
Theme. It can't military without being one of the other major substyles.

>>8475690
theme

>>8471877
>that person saying wonderfinch isn't ita
keeeeek

Is it possible to have a dream skirt? I'm absolutely in love with cream cookie collection but I love the skirt the most.

>>8475101
The website isn't always up to date.

>>8475848
no.you're not allowed to like any item that isn't a jsk or an op.
it's the first lolita rule, gosh summerfag

>tfw your SS hasn't shipped your stuff out after almost 5 weeks after it arrived
I know they're busy, and I didn't want to constantly email them but 5 weeks...

>>8475698
Well the major styles are very sweet, super gothic and everything else. So it has to be a theme.

>>8475848
Re-read your question and think about how retarded it sounds. Of course it's possible.

>JSK 1 has best bust measurements, but that bodice just doesn't look accommodating for large busts, even if I fall in the number.

>JSK 2 looks like the type that would fit better, but technically too small based on numbers.

I don't have much Baby in my closet period, so can someone give me a run down on how their cuts fit the body? Just because the measurements say one thing doesn't mean they'll flatter the body (Innocent World comes to mind).

Is LaceMarket down for everyone? I'm getting really frustrated with this site. It never wants to work.

>>8475892
Jsk 1 would look much better with a large bust because it has a low waist. Jsk 2 would look worse.

It is for me but I am not surprised. Also I am really hoping that dreamy planetarium gets pushed back to next week or the week sheet when I get paid again.

Also I'm guessing the Halloween print from aatp spill be like September or august?

>>8475974
Jsk 1 is going to cut anons bust in half

>>8474943
The one time I ordered from her the dress was lost in the mail for 6 months. Apparently the whole batch she shipped out was like that - she issued me a partial refund but that was only after I reached out to her like 3 months after she'd shipped it out. It was nice of her to try to fix it like that but the whole thing was such a headache that I wouldn't bother using her services again.

Does this blouse look ita? It looks nice in person and exactly how it looked in the stock photos, but I just don't know. I asked my friend (also in lolita) and she says it looks fine.

>>8476057
It's fine. It's not my style for sure, I fucking hate button up blouses but it's good.

>>8472744
>>8472753
this better not be the same bitch who did this last month... its so stupid

So I finally got around to getting a Twitter, solely to follow updates on lolita releases. Could anyone help me out with a few good accounts to follow?
I followed AP Tokyo and Shinjuku, and VM, but I couldn't find a Japanese BtSSB/AatP only the U.S. store. Does Baby have a Twitter?

>>8473983
Honestly go more for the colors and cuts that you look best in and like the most, don't worry too much about being a brolita. Treat yourself like a regular lolita. Make sure you learn some good makeup tricks--avoid too many drag tutorials, though, because a lot of the contouring advice is too strong for a good lolita look. Enjoy yourself anon

>>8474447
Focus on making sure your hair and makeup is really good, since most old school coords are pretty simple in terms of accessories (maxi pad, RHS, simple bag)

>>8476057
Girl that's a perfectly fine blouse. It maybe could look ita coorded with the wrong dress, or if it's grossly too small on you, but otherwise it's fine, don't worry about it.

>>8476124
@BABY_THE_STARS is their japanese twitter
@atelier_pierrot
@metamorofficial & @MetamorphoseEng
@ViergeVampur maybe.

>>8475636
That one looks perfect. What is it called so that I can look it up? I love plaid and green is my favorite color, so this one is perfect.

>>8475627
I am totally okay with plain pieces because of my family. Im trying to stay away from lace as much as possible though, but I will look up Loyal. Thank you.

>>8476089
There are no blouses that don't button up though...

>>8476124
Depends what you like, ey? I like:
@excentriqueLtd
@SheglitOfficial
@Boz_Osaka
@KERA_List

so that Cat's Tea Party on yahoo japan seriously sold for 233,000 yen/$1887? what the fuck?

>>8476057
i could see how it looks ita if the lace isnt good quality.

I posted this in another thread, but maybe someone in here can help as well.

I am trying to help identify a dress a friend of mine saw at a convention.

Apparently it was pink & purple with a bit of white, and it was 'covered in eyeballs' and has 'dream' & some other words printed on it.

It's a pretty distinct print and I've never heard of anything like it, so I'm thinking it may have been homemade?

Thanks in advance for any information!

>>8476057
i own this blouse and the lace and quality are fine

>>8476614
rich Chinese bitches

>>8476743
I'm sick of China ruining all the fun

>>8476614
People with access to disposable income are more likely to spend the money they didn't earn on stuff that is objectively not worth that much because they see it as a status symbol for the money they precisely don't have.

Aka spoilt asian brats like >>8476743 said.
I had an ex who inherited $60k from grandparents. Same mediocre mentality; blew through all of it in a year a la overexpensive flat, drugs, and luxury food that he never made himself.

>>8476614
Sadly thats the normal rate for Cat's Tea Party.

>>8476614
a.k.a. more than I spent on my silk ballgown wedding dress. Some people have more money than sense, and this case it's almost certainly someone's parents have more money than sense.

>>8476614
is the pink colorway more rare? i see the gray colorway a lot but hardly the pink.

>>8476801
Didn't you just answer your own question?

>>8476743

Chinese are so stupidly fucking in love with brand (outside of the lolita world too) and status. It's fucking ridiculous.

My bf is sort of into that and while I love him, I'm sometimes worried about the excessive importance he places on brand names. He's not as bad as his mom though, thank goodness.

>>8476805
yes in a sense, but i dont actively seek out CTP so i could be biased.

>>8476743
>>8476756
Both of you should be ashamed your blatant and perceived racism. How dare you.

Besides Cat's Tea Party is probably one of the worst prints AP has ever created.

>>8476817
Shut up, this has nothing to do with them being Chinese.

>>8476817

You're probably being facetious, but I'll take the bait whole. I'm Chinese and I'm inclined to agree that especially rich Chinese at the moment are spoiled and entitled single kids with way more money from their parents and grandparents than sense.

My cousins for instance are in their 30s, cannot hold down a steady job, and live off the trust fund of their grandfather. One of them dropped out of college and never finished his sociology degree. They're nice enough, but they're really entitled and sheltered. It's a little sad.

Anecdotal evidence, but after dozens to hundreds of those stories from various colleges around the US and Europe, a pattern starts to show after a while.

>>8476824
>sociology degree.
good, would have been a waste anyhow

>>8476832

He started out in biochem but that was too hard for him, so he switched to sociology, and welp, that was too hard too. He can't even hold down a mid management down these days.

>>8476817
It's not racism, it is a part of their culture. Any race of Chinese person could be like this.
Culturism?
Culture is ingrained in a society. The majority of people from that society have been indoctrinated to the culture and follow it. There is a reason many American prostitutes won't have black clients, why my friend hates other Koreans, why people (black especially) are afraid of policemen. It might not be nice to stereotype, but all stereotypes stem from somewhere and there are reasons they exist. When patterns emerge in a culture you start to associate those patterns with that culture.
It's not politically correct, but it happens among every group.

>>8476808
It's because of the new generation of nouveau riche that was born in China in the last decade or so. Suddenly a bunch of people have money and want to show the world their newly-gained social status. But all the money in the world can't buy you good sense or good taste so no matter how expensive their clothes are they somehow still look cheap.

Some of the things I've seen them wear are downright awful.

>>8476854
I'm ok with them buying expensive shit but buying cheap shit and bringing the prices up themselves is just stupid.
>hurrr lolita is collectibles
shush

>>8476876
That's what happens when you don't know the value of things

>>8476876

I'm just glad they go for the sweet shit. My god tier classic dream dresses are still relatively reasonable pricewise compared to this >$1000 bullshit.

>>8476887
>mfw I go for the sweet shit

>>8476890
There there anon, they'll blow through their money soon enough

>>8476894
I don't like popular prints though - sheep garden is my ultimate dream item, and a bunch of other older sweet prints.

>>8476057
>>8476089
>>8476283
>>8476655
>>8476724
Thanks for posting this, I just ordered the same one in black and I was wondering the same thing myself

>>8476695
sounds ugly

Urgh, fucking janitors. I wanted to post in a feel thread, but there isn't one.

I'm feeling pretty worried about what would happen to a meet up I've been trying to put together for a long while. My comm may be growing, but we've got a lot of people who either flake or don't even pay attention to the page. Sometimes I wonder if it was even worth having comm (page) in the first place. I'm debating on canceling this upcoming meet and driving a few hours to the biggest comm in the state to hang out there on my birthday.

>>8476854
lol. It makes me think of the same kind of people in the U.S. - all of these [soccer] moms in Northface jackets carrying their Vera Bradley bags and living in their McMansions.

>>8477444
Are you me? Our comm is growing a lot lately, but there have been maybe 4-5 people coming to meets, with people flaking out the day before, and a big portion of the comm just not interacting with the page at all or coming to the events. I feel like a lot of people who joined early on in the LJ days that I don't know personally either joined with the intention of wearing lolita and never bothered, or just don't bother with it at all anymore. It's really disheartening, but I've been keeping things going with regular meets in the hopes that more people will start showing up if they're easier to attend.

>>8477478
I think it's a trend in other comms, too, iirc. How many meets does your comm have every month?

>>8476330
I don't know the name but it's Metamorphose, so maybe have a search of Lolibrary.

So... Last week I actually got my dream dress on yahoo japan. The thing is I can't be all that excited about it because I keep remembering stories of dresses getting lost in the mail or getting scammed somehow.

I used fromjapan and it still hasn't arrived at the warehouse it seems, is it normal for it to take that long to ship? Or should I contact them about it

>>8477656
Last two things I got from YJ took 9 days and 11 days to get to Fromjapan.

>>8477656
I had one dress take almost 40 days - the best they'll tell you is that they're also waiting for it to arrive if you email them.

>>8476514
>>8476321
Thanks so much!

>>8475892
I am in love with the bodice of jsk 1 but I know it would look terrible on. Does anyone else know any dresses with this cut? I want to gawk over them.

>>8477794
>>8478163

Thanks for the replies, I was hoping it was just me being antsy and impatient..

New thread!
>>8478791