/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I'm going to a little halloween fair-type thing at a town square near my house with my SO, along with going to a halloween symphony in the same week for fun and for a class attendance event (uni humanities class).

What are some taobao shops with cute halloween lines already released? Or some good fall/winter outfits? Doesn't have to be strictly lolita, jfashion/casual lolita is great, too!

I'm invited to a few different lolita gatherings this month. Hoping I can make it to the masquerade on near the end of the month. On Halloween I have plans with family.

Halloween meet the weekend before, and then probably netflix and veg on the day of because nobody actually trick-or-treats in my neighborhood.

Gonna at least attempt a Bride of Dracula-type coord for the meet, even though for some bizzarre fucking reason everyone voted to have the theme of the meet be "broken/possessed dolls".

I just bought pic related last month and I've been meaning to make my own pink witches hat to wear in a halloween coord this year, but money and free time have been sparse lately. So be on the look out for witch coords in the middle of january...because when i finally do get around to doing this coord, you can bet im not gonna wait a whole damn year to show it off.

>>8657213
Are you me? I just bought the same cut/colorway of that print last month too lol
Do the pink witch hat and a dark brown wig in two braids, that would be cute as fuq

Getting together with some lolitas that live far away from the comm in a week or so. Then wearing Nameless Poem to have dinner with my close friends.

>>8657216
Haha yeah i was actually planning something like that for my coord!
I dont wear much sweet anymore, but a friend in my comm was selling it and when i saw it in person i was like welp take all my cash and ill paypal you all my money just give me that dress! The little ghost bears are probably my favorite part haha

>>8657213
I'm prepping to start making a new witch hat. Really want to use this ribbon with it.

>>8657238
Damn that is cute ribbon! Where did you find it?

>>8657248
Got it at Jo-Ann's. There's four yards of it.

Looks like BTSSB will have this sample exhibition and priority reservation. I know a lot of people were looking forward to this print

>>8657269
Sooo excited for this. The jsk cuts are kinda mehh but god I am getting my hands on that OP and hat. Hope they have cute accessories for it too.

>>8657176
Sure is. I still need to make my hat for my coord and figure out legwear. Too late now to order something from ebay, I guess. Shouldn't have hesitated last week...

>>8657193
not lolita but To Alice on taobao has some cute Halloween type outfits already out!
https://tomybear.world.taobao.com/p/rd861144.htm?spm=a312a.7700824.w5003-9567509487.1.SHtW1V&scene=taobao_shop
http://world.taobao.com/item/40813756988.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w5003-10756079261.12.SHtW1V&scene=taobao_shop
http://world.taobao.com/item/520064869724.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w5003-12018747138.8.SHtW1V&scene=taobao_shop

>>8657269
Forgot to mention that these will be available for the same event at Yokohama BTSSB reopening

>>8657269
>Left
Anything dusty rose or mauve will have my dollars thrown at it.

>>8657287
>>8657269
This one too - a new colorway for Gathered Chiffon

>>8657269
Holy crap this is cute! Is there any links to more info on cuts and colors? I think i fucking need this!

When you go to a brand tea party does your main piece need to be of the brand?

http://www.lacemarket.us/angelic-pretty-puppet-circus-op-3/
>mfw Tenshi Shop's Puppet Circus OP in red sold for 621 just now
fuck that, I could have offered more but I was holding back

>>8657316
I think it's prefered, but not required. While most tea parties require you wear something that came from the brand even if it's a few accessories, the rules sometimes varry, so you need to check to make sure you are in compliance.

>>8657292
Holy shit. Please tell me this will be a normal release as well...

I'm a US size 9.5 in shoes, and I generally wear Bodyline size 26.0 to keep it roomy. But I do have 2 pairs that are 25.5 and juuuust fit.
Japanese size LL (for BTSSB at least) is supposed to be 25.0-25.5. Am I shit out of luck?

>>8657316
It varies brand to brand and party to party, so always check the dress code to the one you're attending.
A general safe guideline would be, wear a main piece from the brand, and have no visible logos of big competitor brands on your outfit (so no Baby logo jewelry to an AP party, for example).

uh oh everyone, looks like it's time to throw away all our dresses since someone thinks it's ageplay.

>lolcow
>can't post the link because 4chan thinks it's spam

What do you think AP's lucky pack print is going to be like this year? Do you reckon they'll follow their pastel vomit tradition or do you think they'll do something new instead like maybe a chiffon print with something minimalistic?

>>8657269
I wish this wasn't such a chiffon, underskirt, classic OTT design. The tights are so fucking cute .

>>8657525

I'm hoping Cotton Candy Shop scared them badly enough that they don't put out anymore clusterfuck pastel vomit. I mean, I love pastel vomit, but Cotton Candy was really a mess. iirc they went as far as splitting the sets up, you could buy the jsk for as little as 7k+ yen (in-store price sans tax, ss, shipping, etc).

I can't really see AP completely abandoning their OTT sweet style, though. It's what they're well-known for, and I have heard that Japanese lolitas will grumble if AP goes too long with a pastel sweet print (apparently that's the reason Wrapping Heart sold out in all colourways). At most they might try doing a print in both pastels and navy or brown, that's about as far as I think they'd go.

Don't forget that their original print isn't the only set to come out during New Year's, they typically have two more special sets from one of their prints during the year as well, so they are more likely to do something simple and minimalistic for the special sets, and then go frilly princess on their new year's print LP (which is what they've been doing for the last few years).

I might have an opportunity to stay in Finland for the winter holidays, but 90% of my wardrobe is lolita. Is there a way to make it wearable in -30 C or should I just cave in and stock up on thermo tights and jeans?

>>8657543
I found a pic on twitter with one of the designers (?) wearing it. It's really cute worn normally.

>>8657543
It's sweet though

>>8657566
No

can someone post Halloween themed coords I need insp. for a thing I'm making.

>>8657591
I'd post some myself but I'm new and can't tell if they're ita or not

>>8657593
though those bows on the sleeves look ita as all hell

>>8657591
>>8654314

Really anon? Just browse the lolita halloween tag on tumblr.

>>8657566
winter is expected to be fairly mild this year, assuming you'll be towards the south. you shouldn't see colder than -20, and that's usually the end of January. get lots of warm tights and leggings (I have some thick ones with a nice pattern that are fuzzy on the inside) and a proper coat (I'm afraid a lolita coat might not cut it, a big fluffy jacket is eventually necessary), but you should have like 1 or 2 pairs of jeans on hand in case the weather goes to shit. pic related is what you want if you'll be outside in the nature or smth with >-15, shit keeps you warm. don't forget your hats and scarves and gloves, either. you can look into thermal underwear if you're really scared of the cold.
basically, you should be fine in lolita up to -10 (no idea where you're from though, so your tolerance may vary) as long as you're dressed reasonably. remember lots of layers and good legwear/shoes (you'll thank yourself so much if you have proper boots, seriously). I have doubts about above -10 but you can of course try.

>>8657320
This was quite unexpected. I thought it would skyrocket the last hours. Maybe the damages were too much?

>>8657566
Depends what kind of weather you're used to. I'm part of the Finnish lolita community, it exists... I myself and several others wear lolita through year without getting frostbites. We're used to this. Also what >>8657606 said. Invest in good warm shoes and proper outwear.

>>8657606
Thanks a ton, anon! I'll indeed be in the south, I think I'll stock up on things on day one there, as our winters rarely go lower than -5 so the shops where I live don't really sell good winterproof clothes. I have a couple velvet JSKs that I might bring, they're nice and warm.

>>8657176
Man, I love this dress. I want it so bad. Still don't even have vampire nocturne yet.

>>8657760
sounds like a good plan. I'm sure the finnish comm would be glad to have a mini-meet or something if you asked them to show you around. have fun in the winter wonderland.

>>8657525
I just want to know what print would the special set be. As much as i want to get the both of them, assuming there is two, I don't want to jump the gun just yet

>>8657764
Thanks anon, that sounds really nice!

>>8657488
deets?

Has anyone who ordered the iris colorway during the second reserve for Antoinette Fleur received their shipping notice yet?
I was wondering if they were sending out the dresses by color.

>>8657773
different anon but there's a thread on /g/irltalk about lolita, and it's mostly negative
the thread is basically
>tacky!
>not a real fashion
>ageplay!

etc

>>8657525
I have a theory that AP alternates between sets and animals/bunnies for their lucky pack prints.
Original Print ( French and sweets) - Lyrical Bunny - A La Carte - Dream Fantasy - Candy Sprinkle - Cotton Candy Shop

But then the last print had both.

I am sure that will put out some non print JSK set as well in at least pink and black. Last year's lavender colorway was lovely.

>>8657525
https://youtu.be/wixAkHQ0qbM?t=212

So is this actually a thing? I guess we'll find out if the print has monkeys somewhere on it...

What' with IW doing dresses for fat asses?

Does anyone know if it's against AP internationals policy to buy just accessories upon a release of a series without a main piece? I didn't know AP USA was so strict on this.
>just wants some cute socks

>>8657828
baby monkeys would be cute ?

Anyone have this dress and know how it fits? It has no measurements listed on lolibrary.

>>8657176
I have a meetup with my comm in the day time, then I'm working all night as a scare actor.

>>8657488
>>8657786
>"lolita is like the child equivalent of drag queens"
>mfw I love drag queens

>>8657593
That is indeed really ita.

>>8657964
They say drag queen like it's a bad thing

>>8657973
I think I'd kill to have drag queen makeup skills

>>8657927
looks like that Celestial OP cut, so it's most likely a free bust/waist sack dress with a ribbon to make a waist with.

>>8658034
Speaking of Celestial, would anyone happen to know the sleeve length for the Celestial Dress (not the OP)? Lolibrary says it's 30cm but that doesn't sound right. I may be buying the dress soon and want to make sure it's long enough to cover my long dopey arms.

>>8657369
I am a 9.5 US and comfortably wear Baby's LL size BUT my feet are very narrow. If your feet are narrow or maybe average, go for it. If you have wide feet, I doubt it.

>>8658101
I used to own the dress OP (not the sack, high waist). The sleeves are quite short, so I used to pull the up. The cut is quite awkward, but is up to you.

>>8657597
If the ribbon was wider, I think it'd look nicer. Likewise if it were black ribbon instead.

As far as Halloween stuff goes, this certainly isn't the worst dress ever.

>>8658113
Thanks anon. If the sleeves are short and it sounds like it'll be an awkward fit, maybe I'll pass on it.

I would like to file a claim on Paypal for a partial refund because my item was not as described and the seller has stopped responding to me. However, from what I've read online, it seems like "not as described" claims generally require you to send the item back, resulting in you being refunded in full.

l bought a skirt that was missing a listed item (waist ties) and had stains that weren't described, so I only want a partial refund. Is there anything I can do about this?

>Get lint shaver to take care of pilling on socks (wanting to sell the socks in a set with JSK and Headbow and purse)
>Lint shaver fucking rips a small hole in socks
>No seamstress within sight
Fuck this shit I am so fucking angry. I could have just sold the socks with a little bit of pilling, I know I would have still gotten a decent price, but I just wanted to try and fix it. It's not that noticeable, but I don't know what to do. For those who don't know, a lint shaver is supposed to get rid of pilling without damaging the actual piece of clothing.

>>8658131
Talk to the seller and show them pics of the stains. Ask for a partial refund to pay for cleaning to have the stains removed.

>>8658169
If you are using the kind of lint shaver I'm thinking of you either pressed it way too hard on the sock or the socks were too delicate and thin to be worn by a human being.
I'm using mine on an old IW JSK and it always worked well.

>>8658174
I contacted her and sent her images of the stains, but she hasn't replied to me in a couple of days, even though she's "read" my messages.

>>8658176
Yep, that's what I used. I don't know what happened because it was doing just fine, but once I reached the edge of the socks it just ripped a tiny hole.

>>8658179
Sounds like it might have pulled a thread rather than shaved it, then, or pulled and then shaved. That sucks, anon.

>>8658169
Were you wearing them when you did it? If you didn't, in future, make sure the garment is worn or stretched over something to avoid it being pulled into the shaver.

However, if you were going to sell those socks without stating that they were worn or fixed up then I think you deserve it.
It's good if clothing has been maintained well, even if it arrived with the fault and you fixed it before you passed it on, but noticing that something has been re-sewn or replaced on an item that is meant to be BNNW is tacky as hell. Like that 'brand new' AP coat on LM that someone has sewn random bows onto.

>>8658169
holy shit, this reminds me on that pair of OTK that were completly destroyed after using a lint shaver on them. They were striped AP OTK which had bad pilling were the colors/fabics met each other so I used the lint shaver in hope to get of said pilling, to make them look nice agian. After shaving over one edge, they nearly completely ripped apart and till this day I'm not too sure if lint shaving was a bad idea or the AP socks have just been shitty to begin with.

>>8658181
>>8658182
>>8658184
A little update, I got refunded by the company that sold me the lint shaver. They refunded me for the lint shaver and shipping, as well as a little bit for the damage itself. I planned on listing the socks as having pilling, but I thought that if I bought the lint shaver and got rid of the pilling around the heels (it wasn't that bad), then there would be no reason to list it as having pilling. I'm not sure if I should go ahead and sell it while mention the hole in the socks, or try and get it fixed now.

>>8658194
Why did you have the lint shaver company issue you a refund? It doesn't sound like it was defective, just that the socks were delicate.

>>8658194
People buy used socks with light damage. I would have left them alone and noted the pilling in the listing.

>>8658169
Pic related it was the hole looks like. As you can see, it's very tiny, but it's still a hole.

>>8658195
It was at my mothers insistence after talking to her about it that I went and called the company (she would have called them if I didn't). The person who spoke to me on the phone was more than surprised at what the lint shaver did (they're a knitting company), and was more than willing to refund me some money. It wasn't much that I got back, but I'm not complaining.

>>8658201
>>8658215
Whoops, didn't realize was that huge. Anyway, even thought it sucks that there's a hole in them, at least the pilling is completely gone. I'm still not sure if it's worth it to get it repaired, or to just sell them.

>>8657927
It's the same cut as the Celestial OP, so I'd imagine the measurements are the same?

>>8657858
Probably bait but I'll bite. Elaborate?

I will say, I've noticed most of their recent releases have been selling out in L size first, so it might not be a bad move for them. Since I'd say classic tends to be a more popular choice for older lolitas and you tend to gain a bit of weight as you get older, I could see that. I'm one of the smaller wearers myself but if large sizes are selling well, what's the problem?

>>8658131
If the seller isn't responding then Paypal will generally award you anyway, so simply go on with the claim with good faith of waiting for a response. If they never respond to the escalated claim, it's their problem and their loss.

>>8658314
I'm just worried that if they side with me, they'll require me to go the whole refund and return route. Is it possible to request just a partial refund?

>>8658131
There's nothing you can do. You can open a claim in PayPal, but if the seller won't agree to the partial refund, you have to send it back or close the case (learned from experience). If you close the case, please give them bad feedback.

>>8658327
It requires you to ask for a partial refund first, but the seller has to agree to it.

I bought a dress on LM and noticed there were 4 comments with no replies and I havent gotten an invoice yet. Should I be concerned?

>>8658352
Not everyone checks the comments section of their posts but they will check their listings. How long has it been since you've won?

>>8658314
I avoid IW because I have a relatively large bust and a small waist and they give me the worst boobloaf of any brand. What's the sizing on the L dresses like? Just curious. I'd probably have to alter the L to make it small enough to fit me but it's easier to make something smaller than make a bodice larger...

>>8658352
Depends on how long it's been since you bought it?

>>8657927
Anon, I had this cut in Celestial and it definitely isn't made for tall girls. I also have a small bust and I found that the ribbon also rode up on me if I moved around.

>>8658381
I'm pretty short (5'3") so I'm hoping it'll be okay. I have a bigger bust though so I'm planning on wearing a binder with it. Thanks for the info. I'm kinda terrified to try it on when it arrives.

>>8658359
>>8658369
two days

>>8658368
Like I said, I wear their S/M size so I have no idea. But it just sounded like anon was implying that them doing larger sizing, especially when it's clearly working out for them, is a bad thing- which is pretty stupid.

But from what I've read before, having a large bust (cup size) won't fit IW well. Their dresses are cut for a very shallow/small cup size even in the larger sizes.

>>8658176
I use a very new and clean razor and put on the sock and shave off any piling on it. It works pretty well but you do risk the chance of cuttjng up the socks.

>>8657828
That video was interesting... Never seen it before, I guess I must have missed it when it came out. Thanks for linking.

I guess it's old news but it's interesting to see how similar the Japanese and western communities really are in terms of trends, event oufits vs everyday outfits, and exchange of coord ideas between Japan and overseas. The CathyCat and himezawa segments were pretty cringeworthy but I guess it's to be expected, still nice to see the worldwide community acknowledged in the discussion of the fashion.

I had a dream where I could turn invisible and I used my powers to steal things from brand stores.

Janitor positions just opened up, please can some of you apply? I'm going to but my online hours are few and far between.
We need janitors that are lolitas or at least understand what is singling out and what is just actual concrit etc

Is anyone getting any of the AP special sets today?

Is there some sort of list of dresses/skirts that have replicas, and maybe even their side-by-side comparisons?

>>8658483
will do

>>8657786
>mfw I agree with a lot of what's being said.
I fucking hate wigs, judging outfits for not having a wig is a ridiculous, 90% of the outfits on cof look like a noisy mess, most prints are ugly, everyone is just trying to outdo each other in a frill arms race, dressing casual gets pushed to accesorize more, but there's a chic elegance in the understated. It's a total joke, I really hate what Lolita has become.

>>8658517
I think there used to be one on EGL, but it's probably outdated

>>8658525
So you think Lolita is ageplay and only girls with daddy issues and mental health problems who want to be little girls all over again and shit in diapers dress in it? You think that Lolita is ugly and tacky and anyone who wears it is a sick fetishist?

Because that's what is being said in that thread.

>>8658532
WHAT thread I can't find it.

>>8658113
>>8658125
anon must have just been too big for it. it fits me perfectly, and the sleeves aren't too short. if you have really long arms it might not be the best bet though.

>>8658538
It's on /g/, a new sub

>>8658532
I said a lot, not everything, it clearly starts to devolve into general inane bullshit but I think they raise a lot of interesting points that are worth considering instead of being knee jerk defensive about it and dismissing it altogether. There's a lot of internal pressure in the Lolita community that has caused it to become what it is and not all of those changes or treatments and attitudes are necessarily good.

>>8658538
I can't pay the address but it's at lolcow /g/ 10479

We should have a sub like this and split from cosplay.

>>8658538
It's on lolcow. /g/

>>8658532
This. It's clearly filled with some pretty shit-tier trolls and plain idiots. Don't get taken on the ruse cruise, gulls.

I agree that it's a bit costumey now (I would argue even moreso than it was with the old OTT sweet trend), but I am so sick of the ageplay/mental illness bs.
Also, the people in that thread are so ignorant about Japan. Yes, cute things are popular and Japan has issues with sexualizing children, but for 99% of the population, fashions like lolita are huge turn offs. Also, cute culture was developed by girls for girls, even if it has been co-opted by capitalism, and if anything, was a rebellion against sexualization and societal gender expectations.

>>8658576
I dunno man, /cgl/ already moves pretty slowly and that's with both cosplay and EGL threads. I think in general they try to keep from splitting up boards as much as they can.

That being said- you should definitely post on /qa/ and plead your case and send emails out if this is what you want. Now that they just added /aco/, who knows!

>>8658390
I had always worn IW's size M, but just recently switched to only buying size L, my measurements are 64cm waist, 90cm bust; I am also 5'9, so as you can see, wonky measurements.

The size L blouses fit me amazingly. Whereas the Ms also fit and weren't too tight, they were way too short, especially in the sleeves. Their L sizes mostly just cater to taller people, and REALLY help with avoiding boobloaf, which is something I always used to get since my bust-waist ratio is so off. If you have a larger cup size but are small everywhere else, then size L will do wonders for you, especially if you're lanky like I am.

I just got an underbust JSK from them in size L and it fits and looks great. The listed measurements for IW are always 5cm over what they really are, so if it says it will fit a 95cm bust, you won't look good/won't fit it if you're over 90cm.

Honestly the Winter Ball threads and that thread have just shown me that somehow /fa/ is more level-headed and accepting of us than the fucking normies of lolcow.

>>8658609
I always thought that /fa/ was trash but the Winter Ball threads made me see differently. Who knew?

>>8658564
>/g/, a new sub

lul wat? Are you being serious? /g/ has been around for AWHILE

>>8658555
How tall are you, if you dont mind sharing? I'm 5 feet 9 inches and lanky. Long sleeved OPs tend to be too short on me.

>>8658609
Surprisingly, they are. If youre reading this, good on you /fa/

>>8658630
Oh, I never saw it before and assumed it was created the same time as /snow/. My bad.

>>8658635
only around 163 cm, almost 5'4"

>>8657927
>>8658381
>>8658384
I dug around and found a photo I posted a few months before selling the dress. I'm 5'7" at 120-125lbs and the waist ribbon is riding up in that photo like no tomorrow. It was also kind of short for a lolita dress.

>>8658665
anon said she was short tho so i dont think it would look the same

>>8658671
Did she? I must have mistook >>8658635 for the OP

did anyone else see how fast that Angelic Pretty bat purse sold out?

>>8658697
I-I know

I couldn't even check out that fast...

GULLS I NEED HELP I FUCKED UP ON MY AP ORDER... I got a Horror Bat bag, but I selected the wrong payment method and it never took me to a payment screen, but I got a confirmation email and apparenlty my payment method is : "Pageant bank net settlement"??

Does anyone know what I did wrong/how the hell do I fix it?

>>8658700
You're gonna get your order cancelled.

>>8658702
Goddamnit... Do you think there's a chance I can email them and have it fixed real fast? I clicked bank instead of card on accident.

>>8658704
>AP
>Customer service

kek good one

>>8658708
Ah well, you have a point. Eh, if I get my order canceled then it's no huge deal, I just hope I don't get banned.

Can anyone recommend a chilled out bell shaped petticoat? Classical puppets is too balls to the wall for me.

Is the Dolly Cat Special Set going to be in store only or online as well?

>>8658713
Whoa really? I find that my CP bell petti is only good for casual outfits or when I only want an average amount of poof.
Maybe try Bunny House? They have different poof sizes ranging from medium to super large.

I'm sorry if I'm blind, but what is the difference between these two dresses?
Left is called Holy Stars and the right is called Holy Cross. But when I google Holy Cross, I don't really get much.

Is it an error from lolibrary and they're really the same dress or is it just a rerelease under a new name.

>mfw I love this dress and want it so badly in any/all the colorways

>>8658731
Its a re-release under a new name.

It has been released 3 times I believe. I have it in lavender and it is super cute, and comfy!

>>8658742
Thanks anon! I was super confused. I have heard it's really comfortable from someone in instagram!

It's probably the highest priority on my wishlist right now. Thanks again anon, I really appreciate it!

>>8658731
Do you guys think a chubby like me (b:40 w:35) would be able to wear this or am I going to look obese?

>>8658751
It will look okay around your bust etc but it is already a very short dress, and stretching around your bust will probably make it ride up to your butt.

Plus there will be less room for petti.

Could be cute for non-lolita wear though.

>>8658731
The small differences are more evident in the detail pix on the lolibrary pages.
Stars has star embroidery on the collar while the Cross collar is plain. Cross has a cross charm on the bow while Stars has a plain bow.
Also, a funny thing is that the cuff buttons on Cross are stars, whereas on Stars they are just circular buttons! You'd think it'd be the opposite haha

I share your love but only for the black versions! If I find any of the other colorways I'll be sure to drop it by the dream dress thread or your throwaway email if you'd like.

>>8658773
Wow I hadn't even noticed those details! Thanks a ton anon!

Lolitathrowaway@hotmail.com
I'm not picky, I wish to collect them in all the colors, I think they're nice and simple for daily wear

>>8657881

By ap international you mean the jp shop rather than ap usa, right?

If you just want some cute socks now, go ahead and buy them, there's currently no restrictions on any of the legwear that I know of.

If you're talking about upcoming releases, then every release is different. Each print release typically gets a page to itself and at the top, underneath the shop banner but before the products lineup, there will be a section in japanese listing all the rules (such as one per person, headwear/legwear limit, etc). Use Chrome browser to translate if you're lazy to cut and paste. Typically the limit is number of items per person, it's rare for them to limit buying accessories to those who have bought the main piece, though it's possible they might put such a limit up in the future.

Take note as well, there is always a time limit to the limits, for eg for Holy Lantern, even though the limit is one dress, one headwear, two legwear per person, after 6pm the limit is lifted, you can go back and buy up whatever is left. So if what you wanted was outside the limit, if the item is fairly unpopular you can still go back and buy lots of it later.

>>8658576
This has been beaten to death. In short, not enough content to split and we share things in common such as mail stories/threads, cons, make up, wigs/haircare, skin stuff, cringe threads, etc

>>8658215
>>8658224

If you feel up to some DIY, you can look up how to darn socks and fix them yourself. If the socks are already ruined, you've got nothing to lose but a possible skill to gain.

>>8658773
Oops, I messed up a little. The 2013 Cross release has circular buttons and star embroidery on the collar. So the only really difference between the 2013 Cross and 2014 Stars is the cross charm and the colorway choices. But the 2015 Cross release has the plain collar and star buttons, kinda a fusion between the prev two.

Lol anyway, emailed you with some listings I found for you already~!

Saw these on MaidenClothing. They don't look like they would actually fit anyone. Somehow they look creepy

>>8658438
I would do this.

>>8658810
Hahaha I think I know what those are because of one of those /fa/ fanfics. Are they long jeans with a j-shaped seam for optimal stacks (the wrinkle things)?

>>8659067
Yes they are.

>>8658788
This is exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you!

Secrets!

Any suggestions of pettis that provide minimal but still respectable amount of poof? I'm going to be travelling around Europe and want to wear lolita on some days, but don't really want to be too poofy. Also want to save some space in luggage!

>>8658384
Where did you get your binder? I just bought an IW dress and I'm a little worried about my boobs fitting in there.

>>8659081
Whats the jelly bean one about?

>>8658713
Target petticoats, only on sale during Halloween season! Marketed as "tutus" and they're black, pink, or green!

>>8659140
Not that anon, but I have one from underworks and it's held up great, really comfy too. gc2b is also apparently supposed to be good.

>>8659178
Are they any good? Can it hold up an oldschool dress?

Honestly I hate when people in my comm are posted to the secrets because then I have to deal with them posting about it for at least a few days.
Why do people feel the need to post about having secrets made about them, especially when they claim they "don't care"? It's annoying.

>>8659191
I went to see them a couple of years ago and I'm actually not entirely sure I found the right thing so I could be very wrong but what I saw definitely can't hold up a heavy cotton dress, I was really dissapointed. Maybe I'll go back this year and take a look again.

>>8659197
Because drama llamas like to perpetuate drama

>>8659197
Same. There have already been a couple posts in my comm just today, one girl wasn't even posted, she just wanted to talk about BtB. I guess it could be worse and they could be thinking someone in the comm posted them, but I just don't really want anything to do with drama in general. Drama is exhausting.

>>8659087
honestly i have a $10 leg avenue one that's just a tiny poof, i use it for super casual days.

Can any gulls suggest sites that sell cute gold bags? I've been on the lookout for that milk heart bag or AP's dream star but having no luck. I'll probably just buy a replica at this point.

>>8659414
i recommend shops on aliexpress or ebay if you dont mind them being a bit cheaper. some of them have very cute bags

>>8659423
Go ahead, anon. I'm pretty much open to anything.

>>8659424
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cute-Lolita-Heart-Shape-PU-Leather-Handbag-Purse-Tote-Shoulder-Bags-2-Colors-/231595331423?var=530832357912&hash=item35ec284f5f

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Gold-mint-green-two-color-bags-heart-shaped-handbags-cute-adorable-girl-favorite-Lolita-new-sweet/32252217629.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.19.b6RuX0&ws_ab_test=201556_1,201527_2_3_2_1_4_71_72_73_74_75,201560_9

these might actually be a milk replica? if you just search (colour) lolita bag youll get plenty of results on either site

Apparently cadney is stepping down as kawaii ambassador

>>8659493
whoa, CADNEY of all people? amazing

>>8659493
>reigniting AM drama when it's finally mostly been forgotten about/ignored by everyone else
thanks Cadney

Is there a gothic lolita sales facebook group that isn't total shit and full of unrelated items?

>>8659509
Um, that's kind of her point? That it's been forgotten and nothing was really resolved?

>>8659530
Yeah, but restarting the drama isn't exactly going to help solve anything either tbh. If anything it'll make it worse.

>>8659542
It's not restarting drama. She's right. The AM drama was not resolved. Lolita's love drama in the moment but seldom try to conclude it or fix it. AM is still a plague.

>>8659550
ok, have fun "fixing it"

>>8659550
Yeah but what does it have to do with her/why is she stepping down?
I'm not really up to date with my drama but from what I know she wasn't involved other than her attending...just...dont attend AM anymore. you don't have to give up kawaii ambassador all together wtf. It seems like a late extreme overreaction.

>>8659542
It's not really restarting it. Everyone got all pissed off and then it just died. Nothing got resolved. The convention is still happening and I for one am going to go. Fuck this shit.
Stupid bitches.
Fight for a cause and then what? Nothing. Turns into bullshit.

>>8659561
She's stepping down because she's dissatisfied with how the JLA handled the situation. Neither Misako nor the association ever issued an official statement about the debacle, which included some shady stuff with KA selection. It seems pretty reasonable that Cadney would feel uncomfortable to continue working with them when they refused to even issue a statement, much less work to actually resolve the issues brought to light. I don't understand why it's so hard to understand.

>>8659561
Cadney made a huge post when stuff went down about how the KA decision was controlled by John Leigh, and girls outside of Texas weren't considered for the position. She was involved from the beginning and I remember her publicly asking the JLA to make a statement about it and respond to the petition that was circulating.

Obviously they never did.

>>8659558
So you think sexual harassment and all the corruption shouldn't and can't be dealt with? You could be a politician, anon.

>>8659430
Anon has bottom bag in gold. It's a Milk replica. Sturdy enough, and roomy, but one of the panels of inside lining started coming away the third time I wore it.

Hasn't affected the functionality, but is a bit annoying.

>>8659608
i should rephrase that. more like "good luck" fixing it.

>>8659493
she has integrity, good for her.

so I have this headpiece I want to wear for a thing tomorrow but I can't quite figure out how to keep it stable on my head. There's two elastics that I've tried to put bobby pins through but it's too heavy and slides out...not sure how I'm supposed to wear this. More bobby pins but crossed perhaps? Maybe alligator clips?

>>8659493
Seriously good for her, others should follow suit. Because to continue as an ambassador is basically saying this kind of behavior is okay. When shit like this gets swept under the rug it should be stirred up, why should this slimy asshole get away with what he's done, what if it happens to you or a friend, what if he becomes more aggressive knowing no one is going to do shit about it? It goes without saying that any event should be free of sexual harassment and to say shit like 'good luck with that' is just so pedantic, fuck you. This is the sort of shit lace should go after if they were actually credible.

>>8659493
What an overreaction. To this day I don't understand why they made such a big deal out of this. All these girls that were "harassed" by John were playing along, including Misako and her expensive Chanel gifts. I can tell by personal experience that although John was very forward, if you were strong and just say "I'm not that kind of person" he would instantly back out. He was only like that when you would play along. He's not the monster all these "victims" want to portray him to be. Useless drama from girls that are just craving for attention and I'm 100% sure all these girls played along for gifts, attention and fame. Neither John, nor these girls are 100% victims or 100% guilty.

>>8659561
I believe the KAs pleaded with Misako to make some kind of statement and Misako was kind of like " Meh ", They wanted her to address it but ended up with a prada bag instead.

>>8659814
You must be from Hawaii. Also even if you were to play the " Bahhh these victims are just fakers/attention whores" shit. (Which is all 90% true with screen caps to prove it. )

What about the half million dollars her swindled from investors, vendors, and car lots? Please shut the fuck up and go away.

http://www.houstonpress.com/arts/the-con-anime-matsuri-is-growing-and-so-is-the-list-of-people-unhappy-with-it-7764398

>>8659814
What the fuck are you talking about, they could very well have been playing along so as to not make things difficult for themselves, it's what women do when they've been socialized all their lives not to cause a scene, it's very hard to break. Especially if you were unaware that it was happening elsewhere, assholes are all too aware of this, it's what being a pickup artist is all about. Just instigating that sort of behavior in a semi-professional environment is seriously inappropriate.

>>8657593
Am I the only one who thinks this is really cute?

>>8659822
>expecting a Japanese girl to make a statement on such a serious issue, at all
>topkek
no offense, but it's just not something that happens

>>8659790
What the fuck happened?

I've never been on Rakuten before, so I don't really know anything about it.
There are a ton of brand dresses for sale, and I'm extremely tempted.
Is Rakuten like ebay where it's people selling their own stuff, or is it like milanoo where they just use brand photographs for knock off crap?

>>8659814
If you're in a position of power (KA, con head) it is not appropriate behavior, ever. It's hardly apppropriate in any situation. No one should have to tell him to back off, he shouldn't be acting like a teenage boy to begin with. It's not a bunch of girls' responsibility to tell him to behave himself and act like a professional. And yes, men like this do tend to know that many girls won't tell them to back off out of fear, and they take advantage of that. That happens on a daily.basis, of course it would happen when that same guy is in charge of you professionally.
>not sure if troll or just stupid

>>8659891
Rakuten is a hostsite for various seperate webshops. Bodyline has a storefront, DreamV, and several legit 2ndhand resellers amongst others.

I can't really think of a western equivalent to it, but it's legit. It's closest to amazon except that it's all different storefronts, I guess.

>>8659899
Well shit
Thanks man

>>8659696
>Two elastics on either side.
>Hasn't tried stretching them down over her ears yet.

Oh, anon.

Anybody getting Whip Jacquard? I'm debating, but I can't figure out if the design is printed on or, like embossed? woven? like that other series AP did
can't remember the name

Guess no one is really feeling AP's new release since it's still chilling in stock.

>>8659493
I'm not a fan of her, but this was the right decision.

>>8659935
If it had any texture to it at all, I'd be interested but it looks like it's printed or very lightly embossed. It just looks so... dull.

Hi John
eat my fucking ass, you shitlord

>>8659935
I think most people were really disappointed, as it seems to be replacing the (almost) yearly chocolate print. It looks washed out and so bland, and the cuts aren't amazing either; the lacing on the JSK is downright awful, imo. Like the other anon said, it also doesn't seem to be as textured as some other prints, so it really doesn't seem to warrant the high price. If it was a thick, textured fabric like the chocolate series or royal unicorn, I would be more likely to pony up money for the brown OP. As it stands, I'll wait to grab it secondhand.

Other factors likely contributing:
>AP's recent slew of releases
People don't have hundreds of dollars to throw down every week
>Lack of hype/advertising
AP doesn't seem to have advertised this/hyped it as much as other prints
>Boring and un-mixable pieces
The pieces are boring enough that you don't feel tempted to buy them for novelty but just unique/different enough that they won't work well with many of AP's other pieces. At least with the choco releases, they're pretty much "non-print" pieces so you can generally work in the coats and accessories with other pieces. This release honestly looks a bit too weird and busy to be able to really do that.

Reminds me of the shuggary carnale incident

>>8659931
I can't tell if you're just joking or not lol. the elastics are far from being stretchy enough and for the way they are placed that's not gonna work without the headpiece being positioned in a really dumb way

>>8659935
>>8659941
It's called jacquard, so it must be woven in?

>>8659962
doesn't help that the girl looks like 12 max

>>8659994
It is, but from the stock photos, the fabric looks rather flat compared to some of their other pieces (e.g. Royal Unicorn and Melty Chocolate). Maybe it will be a sleeper hit, but the stock photos really aren't appealing.

>>8659696
Are the elastics meant to tie around your hair, maybe?

>>8659696
Maybe put a headband through the elastics? Although if it's heavy that might not be enough...

>>8659696
put haircombs through the elastics into your hair.

>>8660006
You clearly have no idea what jacquard is.
Protip: it's exactly what you see in that photo. It's not like an embroidery that will be raised and noticeable from a distance, it's a type of structural weave that is flush with the rest of the cloth, the texture is much more subtle and the weave. There are varying depths of jacquard, so saying that it looks "rather flat compared to some of their other pieces" is pretty dumb. What are you even trying to get at?

>>8660029
Oops,
**and the weave is supposed to be more subtle than embossing but more textured than printing.

>>8660009
hmm, how exactly do you mean? either way I attempt to do that just now and I'm not sure if that's it either

>>8660024
this kind of works, I'm worried about the placement looking funny but maybe it's not as bad as I'm thinking. I have some time tomorrow so I'll have to go out and buy more bobby pins and some clips of various sizes and see if I can work something out, headband might be my best shot though since my issue with putting clips through the elastics is I feel like I'm not securing it down enough to counter the weight of it. Maybe later on I should try to fasten a hair comb to it?

>>8660029
I'm not saying that it is. I was mostly referring to >>8659941 and the other anon (sorry, on mobile) saying that it was not very textured/thick. Generally people have liked the chocolate releases for their texture, so the fact that they went with something much more subtle is likely a drawback for many.
I don't know why you're getting so upset over this.

>>8659962
She has a cupple of branda

>>8660038
For example if you were tying your hair into twintails, then you'd tie the elastic over those.

>>8660041
Also, if we're going to get nitpicky, jacquard can be "thicker" and stick up more depending on materials used.

>>8660043
ohh okay, I see what you mean now. but the elastics aren't tieable, they're something you would slide something over or through.

>>8660028
if i don't try this tomorrow i'll try this at some point

this is a strange headpiece (though it's very beautiful, pic related is what it looks like sliding off a mannequin head), I wish it just had combs or a big clip on it in the first place! I'm sure there's some specific way I'm supposed to be attaching it and I'm just misinformed/ignorant of it heh.

>>8660042
That chick is retarded

>>8660126
Literally?

>>8660059
>>8659696

I think they put loops in so that you can chose your own method of attaching the headdress.

For headband: First, tie a seperate elastic to the headband before you slip the headdress on. Then slip the headdress on, and tie another elastic on the other side. The two extra elastic will act as stoppers to stop the headdress from sliding off the headband.

For combs: Slide two combs into the loops, make them both face inwards. If you look at the underside of AP mini hats, you can see two combs facing each other inside, that's how you want it to look.
Then, to wear it, slide the two combs towards each other into your hair. Then secure them with bobby pins that catch both your hair and the comb.

>>8660225

One/two more:

If you have one of these blank metal barettes large enough to span the two elastic loops, you can try inserting it into the loops -- open the barette and then push it under the elastic. Then the headdress will be on the back of the barette and you'll be able to wear it like a normal barette.

I think you can try the same thing if you happen to have an alligator clip that's long enough as well.


Except for the headband method, to make it harder for the headwear to fall off, tie a small pony tail exactly where you want the headwear to sit before putting on the headwear. For the barette, pin it through the ponytail, for the comb, make sure some of the hairpins catches the elastic. The ponytail will act as a stopper so all these things are less likely to fall out.


Come back and let us know if these work. Personally I think the idea is genius and I want to try it out for the next headdress I make.

Does anyone know of any really lovely prints in bordeaux/wine? Something similar to Baby's Sleeping Beauty JSK

Does anyone know how much closet child marks up their items if you were to sell them something?

https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/3oay55/my_friend_group_mid_20s_mf_are_tired_with_how_a/
I thought this was funny

>>8660318
I bet if they knew it's lolita and looked it up they wouldn't say the same. I bet they have something like otome in mind.

>>8660318

>mfw one of the comments says 'You can be a super-preppy sorority girl and hang out with someone who dresses like it's Lolicon.'
>mfw they probably think lolita = lolicon

>>8660320
Good job thinking lolita is all con costume lolita and OTT bullshit.

>>8659814
Are you shitting me? You shouldn't have to be strong - no one should ever harass you.

>>8659790
kek - if LACE was credible. K was pulled up on this as soon as it started, but ignored it, for reasons

>>8660318
>You can be a super-preppy sorority girl and hang out with someone who dresses like it's Lolicon
>lolicon

>>8660321
Well there's an important message in her comment. I didn't get it until recently when I gained more confidence in who I am and started to think less about other people as extensions of myself.

Did anyone else see this crazy post on the E il Live tumblr?
I can't really make out the whole story but it all seemed so sad I wanted to reply to it with something kind, but I didn't even know where to start.

http://marius7s.tumblr.com/post/130937738622/sincerely-sorry

>>8660472
It's on their facebook too! WTF is going on

>>8658731
In blue:
>http://www.wunderwelt.jp/products/detail5809.html

>>8660252
They give you pretty much nothing... maybe 10-20% for most things

>>8660472
>http://marius7s.tumblr.com/post/130937738622/sincerely-sorry
I knew that they hadn't been fulfilling orders and there were tons of complains on their FB page about people who were waiting for months with no response after ordering from their storeenvy.
Jesus I can't even figure out what this is trying to say
>designer admits she went awol
>techincal issues with no internet?
>but also a designer's kid getting molested???
No idea what's happening there but it sounds like an absolute mess

>>8660498
I'm really glad they're back since I've wanted one of their bags for a long time. I feel really sorry for her, from all I can gather with this.

>>8658751
I'm around the same size and I have it. I don't think it looks terrible but something looks slightly awkward and I think it's because my bust takes up a bit of room and changes the shape of the dress slightly. But perhaps your bust will look different? I would buy it and see if you like it, people like this dress so you shouldn't have any problem selling it if you find you don't like it.

When are all you US Holy Lantern gulls supposed to get your shit? I'm still holding on to some last little buying hope...

>>8659891
There may be knock offs on there, it's kind of like a mix of ebay/amazon. Probably best to link us to what you want and we'll check? The only shops I know with storefronts on there are offbrand ones, like Infanta

Has anyone received their shipping notices for their Antoinettes yet or is MM lying through their teeth about deadlines again?

Any worn pics or details of the Dolly Cat special set yet?

>>8657193
Why do fucking liberals always say SO?

Just say bf or gf you shitbag

>>8660590
You know bf and gf sounds a little too juvenile after a while. Like my mum is 50 and has been in a relationship with a guy she's not married to for 15 years. Significant other or life partner are great words for that kind of long term relationship that doesn't involve marriage.

>>8659935
I got it - I just love the mocha color and that the print is so nicely woven in. I would have wished for a low waist cut like the other chocolate releases had, but I'm fine with JSK as it is. I'm not too fond of the ribbons everywhere, but I can remove them.

>>8660530
Uh, a ton of secondhand shops, and some brands, have stores through Rakuten. Rakuten is huuuuge in Japan

>>8660590

She could have meant Superior Officer, anon. No need to get salty at a military lolita hanging out with her SO off-base.

Are vintage blouses acceptable in lolita? Specifically classic, I don't think some of them would work for sweet.

>>8660668
personally, if you're asking then i think it's too early for you to try it. but generally yes, it's pretty common for classic lolitas to incorporate vintage blouses.

>>8660590
I've gotten used to saying SO as a way to keep from outing myself. Unfortunately I know way too many homophobes.

>>8660590
SO is just more significant than (blank)friend, newfriend

>>8660590
Is this bait? Who is so whiny that saying SO bothers them?

How often does Moitie release new items?

Actually, I'd be curious to know how often different brands release new items. It seems print-focused brands like AP or Baby release frequently, while brands that do not focus on prints have a much more sporadic release schedule.

It's >>8659696 / >>8660059 reporting back. I got some hair combs and I think these are definitively what the elastics are made for. I got two big-ish ones and it stays in my hair just fine. I'm on my way out of the house now, I just stuck with the combs when I found out they worked perfectly, but >>8660225 and >>8660239 I will try out your methods when I come back home this evening!

>>8660668
Yes but you need to be very picky about the style and quality. I personally prefer the standing collar with a touch of frill, so it always takes me a while to find just the right one.

>>8660774
IW have new items up for reservation pretty much every Friday, and they sometimes announce collaborations and big releases (like Fantasy Night Sky) a couple of weeks in advance.

>>8660590
cause i don't want to come out of the closet as a heterosexual.

also lolitas are very lovely creators

I saw a picture of a Sax x White version of gather chiffon on AatP shinjuku's blog, but it's not in the jp online store yet. Is it a Shinjuku excusive colorway? Or do the physical stores get stock before the online ones?

>>8660516
Would you mind posting a picture (you can crop out your face!) I really want it in red but I know that's a pretty popular colorway. I don't want to get all nuts and fight for it on auction only to hate it on me later haha

>>8659935
I'm debating getting it, but the color and piece I want is sold out. Probably get it from AP USA if I still want it then.

Personally I think the design is more interesting than their normal chocolate prints, but the dresses don't have very good designs.

Everyone is saying the design doesn't look very raised, but I have a coat from the last chocolate release, and it's not very raised either.

>>8661013
I meant the print design is better, but the dress design is bad. Realized my post might be confusing after I entered it.

>>8660530
Anon, you sound like you're thinking of aliexpress. Pretty certain Infanta doesn't have a Japanese Rakuten storefront?

>>8660668
Only if they're good quality. There's so many crappy ones out there on vintage sites/thriftshops though. Real silk ones or ones with cotton lace are the way to go, imo. Victorian revival has come up again and again in the past century so there's a lot to go around.

>>8660599
No, it isn't immature? bf and gf doesn't have an age limit, you know. After so many years, by law, you're basically considered married anyway so that argument is invalid.

>>8661138
Anon have you ever heard of people having different opinions? And that is so wrong in so many ways, over here you're not considered a couple until you're married or registered as a couple (which is a new law). There's so many of these sob stories online where people's SOs drop dead and they lose out on things like their houses and whatnot which automatically go to the SO's kids from other relationships or whatever

Anyone know where I can pick up this fabric in the sax colourway? I like the print, but I really dislike the shape of Bodyline's OP. I've seen at least 2 other brands use the exact same material, but none have used the sax colourway. It's obviously a lolitable fabric they are all buying, but would anyone know where to start looking for something like that?

>>8660883
Sax x white has been around forever anon

I don't want to start a debate but which sales groups still accept replicas?
I bought them when I was young and didn't know any better, I would like to sell them cheaply to another baby weeb who will probably enjoy wearing it with no petti whilst eating pocky the way I did.

>>8659493
I don't get how people can say this is reignighting any drama. Maybe it's because I know her but she's been stressing over this for as long as the issue has existed. I'm so incredibly proud that she would step down and I really hope the other kawaii ambassadors follow the suit.

>>8661336
Are there even any left at this point? Other than that latin american chick everyone hates (Daniela, maybe?)

>>8661355
Who hates Daniela? She's pretty much irrelevant.
Also there is Mila and two other girls in France, and some countries in Asia have them as well. Wasn't the U.S. selecting one also?

>>8660658
kek

REMINDER for all lolitas that care how shit our current janitor and mod situation is to apply to be a janitor right this moment.
If you're not available often but want to help when you can, just put it in the form and see what happens anyway. Let's be honest, things might get pretty shitty now that our current overlord is unlikely to even pretend to care about our weird dressing cult, we need some gulls on the inside, even janitors can't do much.

>capcha is macarons
The gods are in our favour

>>8661398
I personally think that Nadine (Canada) has done a lot more attending lolita events but not that big on blogging about it, Mila (France) does a lot more promotion for lolita fashion through Kawaii International and blogging about lolita events, Pom (France) did a little bit for lolita fashion for a few blog posts on lolita fashion vs real life/hobbies, Daniela (Mexico) does a ton of shit by organizing events & trying to get Japanese models/designers to visit her shit country, Ann (USA) doesn't do much except attend events hosted by AM (which is a shit con)

>do small, heavily budgeted Closet Child purchase this morning
>they just announce a new sale

>>8659896
I'm no american, I actually met John at work (unrelated to any of this even things) and although I don't want to generalize, all you sound like americans, wanting the world to cater for you, wanting for everyone to make things easy for you. I'm from a third world country so I'm used to men trying to "abuse you". You HAVE to be strong, not just wait for everyone to sweet thing up for all you "defenseless women". I seriously think all you are all the stupid ones thinking it was his fault that nobody spoke up. Wake up, this is the real world. Fight your own battles and accept the consequences of what you do. John tried to be all overbearing with me too, but it was crazy easy to tell him to stop and he backed away immediately. These girls were trying to get stuff out of him, so they played along. They're no victims.

>>8661762
Nice bait. People were speaking out all along, it's just that this is the first time anyone's been able to build enough of a case in the lolita community to get any attention. John's been a piece of shit for years, this isn't even a secret.

i love how AM defenders ignore everything but the harrassment. hard to argue against lawsuits and multiple accounts of being cheated or robbed or deceived, huh?

>>8661398
Idk, I just remember during the AM threads everyone was saying that Daniela was licking John and the KA crew's boots the whole time.

>>8661762
I'm laughing at how literally every other community John has ever been in fucking cut him out like the tumor he is (protip: some of us are in them). It's only the lolita community that can't fucking get their heads out of their asses and give him the boot.

>>8661206
you could try taobao? or buy the bodyline dress and alter it?

>>8661138
Commonlaw marriages are not legally a thing in a lot of places anymore.

>>8661834
don't you have to apply for one of those anyways? i remember it was more than just two people cohabiting for x years.

>>8661355
In Canada alone there are still 2 more kawaii ambassadors

>>8661649
>tfw I considered applying
>tfw I was concerned I don't have enough experience with the fashion
>tfw I convinced myself out of it
;;

>>8661995
fug anon why not try

>>8660498
It does sound really confusing. It seems that her daughter was molested by a teacher and one of the sons became mentally ill. Also it sounds like the marriage with her husband broke... At least that's what I could understand. Is there an original text in korean somewhere?

>>8660321
Even normal lolita looks costume-y to normalfags, that's simply how it is.

For those of you who love oldschool and buying older releases, can you give me some tips on how to go about finding such dresses?

>>8662329
Honestly a lot of my wardrobe is impulse buys. There's lots of great pieces from Meta and AP that never seemed to make it into the archives, so when I see something I like I have to grab it because 1) Its hard to find pieces that aren't well-documented and 2) brands didn't used to manufacture as many dresses, so there's less of them around. Old-school is pretty cheap in general though.

>>8662329

How picky are you? If you're after a specific dress or print, you're probably in for a pretty hard time, some of them just don't surface, and the non prints will be the ones that only show up twice in 8 years of searching while the one colourway you actually want never ever shows up at all.

If you're not terribly picky, though, then it's actually really easy. Keep a list of all the secondhand places -- egl comm sales, lacemarket, yja, mbok, fril, mercari, glass forest, violet blue, maiden clothing, closet child, tokyo alice, fairy angel, ....that's all of them, I think. When you have the money, just trawl through them one by one until you find a piece you like that fits into your wardrobe and is a price you like, buy it/send a shopping service to buy it. That's all there is to it. The bigger headache is praying that the items aren't too different in shades so you can actually put together a coord without clashing shades.

You will have to make do with not knowing their names, though -- other anon is right in that a lot of older pieces, particularly solid-coloured pieces, don't seem to make it into hellolace or lolibrary.

If you prefer to buy firsthand from brand, all of the brands eventually re-release something old school, older lolitas do still buy them, you just have to keep an eye on their site as the tumblr lolitas tend to ignore it. Most notably, Baby did an entire classical series just this year, a lot of their popular old school dresses got a re-release. Even without that, though, Baby regularly re-releases many of their old school dresses, particularly karami 3-tier jsk and the babydoll jsk. For Meta, they tend to re-release the pintuck jsk, some velveteen jsk and some variation of that grandma couch floral print. Moitie's style hasn't changed all that much, half their items still look like they belong in 2006 GLB anyway. So it's possible to be decked out in old school lolita in all-new brand from 2015, too.

>>8661649
I applied. I'm not sure how many others on cgl did the same but I figured why not? Pruning posts isn't hard.

>>8661762
i'm from a third world country, too, and women are likely to be meek in the face of this shit, even if it makes them uncomfortable. they don't expect anyone to save them, they just don't want to be the ones to make a fuss, if it turns out to be an isolated incident because it's not worth the kind of scrutiny an accusation like that can bring.

>>8660318
Kekkarino

All my normie friends love my lolita dresses, but it probably helps I only wear it to special events

>>8659896
I completely agree that it's very bad for anyone in a position of power to talk the way he does to someone he's in charge of, like in the work place or at school. But a lot of the things I've seen people complain about weren't like that at all. It was between friends and partners. Sure some guy asking you what underwear you're wearing or joking about your sex life is uncomfortable if you're not that open about this. But that's between those two people and not some sexual harassment case like some people want to pretend.

>>8661995
Literally all I want out of jannies is diligence and a thorough understanding of the rules here

Having a closet full of burando is literally irrelevant

>>8661762
Wow. No one should have to tell a grown man to back off being a disgusting pervert. Including your silly ass. In the real world different people have different personalities. Not every one has a strong enough disposition to tell someone to stop. Expecting everyone to have the same reaction to these type of situations as you did, makes you look like an idiot.

>>8662000
>>8662644
I guess you're right but I'm new to the point where I literally have no dresses yet (mostly because nazi parents) and I started seriously getting into the fashion and investigating last summer to fall. I've done shitty homemade cosplay too so I guess I'm not completely fresh, and I'm pretty closely familiar with chanculture, so I guess I wouldn't have been that bad.. sorry for failing you anons, I guess I'll apply next time

Is it okay to throw Milky Planet latest re release sax JSK in the washer with the 'hand wash' cycle or am I better off hand washing it?

>>8662735
i machine wash all of my AP and they come out fine.
or don't be lazy and hand wash the thing

>>8662735
I've done it with that exact print/colorway with no issues. Just make sure that you do cold water too.

i'll be attending medical school (starting my bachelor's) next semester, all lectures, no labs or anything. and i want to wear simple lolita coords since i'll be in class most of the day and i feel like wearing something cute will help perk me up. but to all you other gulls, would this weird or not even worth the time? would it be extremely unprofessional due to the setting?

>>8662892
Anon, I really would not recommend lolita, otome at a stretch. Even if you do not have labs as such or placements, in case you have anatomy tutorials or such, or anything that requires people 'gathering around', your poof will not be appreciated. You also need to be careful of the Early impressions you make on people you will undoubtedly have to work with for a number of years, and frills very rarely make the right sort of impression in these cases.

>>8662892
I think that it depends on how simple it is. Simple JSKs and skirts with blouses should be fine, just avoid big flashy prints. Also, if its just for lectures no one will really give a shit, they might not even notice.

>>8661355
>>8661666

There is also Ruby (Hong Kong) organizes plenty events for her country and Anastasia (Sweden) who was just picked last month.

A bit off topic but it's unfair to compare the newly appointed ambassadors to the experienced ambassadors who have years of work behind them.

>>8662892
Med anon here. Don't.
Assuming you have the average med school intake, it will be unlikely 'no one will even notice' you wearing lolita in lectures. Given the average lecture hall or room you won't be that comfortable wearing it anyway and with the risk of dirt I don't understand why you'd want to. Go for otome and ease into casual lolita at most, university is a great place to express yourself fully but during lectures may not be the best time.

So I'm going to pick up a 580 malco modes petticoat cause I prefer a more casual poof and I'm on the classic side of things, but I was wondering if I should pick up two and use both when I want something poofier or more bell shape, is that possible or should I just get a bell petticoat from bunny house instead? I have a lot of velvet as well, like old baby stuff.

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>>8662997
thanks guys. if it helps, the main color in my wardrobe is black and i don't really own prints. i tend to wear more classic and gothic as well.
i was thinking about giving otome a try, but most dresses that i see don't really appeal to me unless you guys have any examples of "darker otome" if that even works haha

>>8663018
Coming from another gothic/classic nonprint-wearing lolita... it will still stand out. I wore it throughout my years at art school and thought I was being super casual, and while people were accepting of it, I still definitely stuck out. If you want to do really casual otome in dark colours, I can see that as being seen as dressing girly/more conservatively and not quite as alternative. I've spotted a lot of cheap black ETC, and paired with a cutsew, some mary janes, and a beret or something it wouldn't seem that weird, I feel.

>>8663018
Jane Marple's A/W is usually darker in tone. You might like regimental stripe or one of their velvet collections.

>>8663018
Check out Excentrique, Sheglit and Miho Matsuda maybe?

>>8663047
yeah, some excentrique, I would avoid anything corseted.

>>8663018
If you want to dress girly, I'd say stick to office lady blouses and toned-down skirts. It's amazing how much even that will make you stand out in a sea of leggings and Northfaces, but you'll stand out as "unusually well dressed" instead of "weird lacey doll".

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>>8663028
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>>8663059
thanks. i'll definitely take a look at excentrique. i love miho matsuda but i only own a few items from there. so i may start shopping there and buying more items from them. the clothes that i do own from there are constructed so well and are absolutely beautiful.

>>8662892
>>8662997
I disagree. It doesn't matter unless it's like a clinical tutorial with a clinician or you're in the hospital on a clinical rotation. I'm a doctor now, but was a mallgoth then a lolita and used to wear whatever I felt like to lectures/class even during clinical years. This was over 5 years ago now, but my rule of thumb was "fine for preclinical stuff but not for anything where you have to be professional". It also depends on your uni culture, I was in a student town where alt fashion was very accepted. You can also be picked on more easily for the lecturer to ask questions.

A new shop called "harajuku_backstreets" popped up on ebay recently and they're using pictures from Wunderwelt. Supposedly, the shop is US based. The blouse I wanted to purchase is also currently for sale on Wunderwelt, as well. Odd.

>>8663158
shopping service front? how much is the price difference?

>>8663158
don't buy from them, reseller using stolen pics.

new thread >>8663168

>>8662667
"Everyone has to tiptoe around me because I can't take care of myself and you're an idiot for being a normal human being", that's what this comment sounds like. Stop being so sheltered.

>>8663105

I had the same experience. I wore what would now be considered larme kei during preclinicals without much notice. However, I changed my wardrobe to a work one and kept my lolita in a very compartmentalized space during clinicals. I now keep my power level way down nowadays. My residency is fairly lax, but the most I'll would do is very plain stuff.

Fellow med anon, how do you wear lolita nowadays? I'm having a really hard time and I'm sort of having a bit of a crisis about it. Thinking about downsizing. Doesn't help I live in a middle of nowhere town where people will recognize me in an outlandish fashion.

>>8663251
Behold this display of a simple mind, lacking of any perspective or empathy whatsoever, not everyone grew up in the same conditions as you anon.

>>8663287
>>8663105
ah i guess i should also add that i'm aiming for psychiatry. it'll only be my bachelor's for psych for a couple years and then my master's then med school.
i'm in my last semester of community college now so i wear simple, wearable coords every now and then and no one really cares, but a higher university makes me nervous.

>>8657292
Ewwwww.

>>8663287
You basically have to make time for it because it's not really ever going to be a good idea for work. It's my casual/weekend wear now so I try to keep my wardrobe to 30ish dresses and curate it, I did a massive downsize and halved my wardrobe in my first year of working. I also do a lot of a la mode/crossover type stuff so I can wear it more easily.

>>8663814
One of the psychiatric trainees I know is really fucking weird and it never affected him getting in. He was kinda like...otherkin, I guess. He used to say he was a cat, turned up in cat ears etc. He goes by a normal name now but I'm not convinced he's any less odd.

>>8658718
Bunny House's smallest petti is actually still pretty huge

>>8662892
If you're just starting your bachelor's, why are you calling it "med school"? Most people would call themselves premed, you can wear whatever you want but people will know you as "that girl who wears poofy dresses in lecture"

>>8664061

>One of the psychiatric trainees I know is really fucking weird and it never affected him getting in. He was kinda like...otherkin, I guess. He used to say he was a cat, turned up in cat ears etc.

Holy fuck this is absolute gold. It's like the psych stereotype in a nutshell.

Closest I have is that a neighboring family med residency of ours has a dude who sports bilateral full sleeve tattoos. He got in and doesn't seem to give fucks about people seeing them. So there's that.

>>8657593
My 14 year old self would have been all over this.