/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Maybe there's something wrong with me but I could never get excited over ILD. It feels like just a regular meetup.

My comm looks like its fighting again so theres two ILD meet ups. ill be traveling around on ILD and im not close to fluent in the target language so i think ill dress up and post a picture to instagram. Even if i was home with my regular comm both the meets sound messy or like something i wouldn't enjoy.

i was going to dress up to meet the comm closest to me finally (been in the fb group for like a year) but they're a $40 ferry ride away and im poor so instead i'm just going to put something on for 10 minutes and instagram it so i can pretend i celebrated

Our comm had tea party plans but suddenly the venue wanted to charge an arm and a leg for a private room, so now they're changing it to a picnic.

I get not wanting to pay out the ass but picnics are horrible and impractical, especially in lolita, so I'm really unenthused now. I almost don't want to go anymore. We're going to have to deal with normies interrupting and asking questions and likely hobos harassing us the whole time.

>>9030855

I can definitely understand about how shitty it is for the last minute venue change.

>but picnics are horrible and impractical, especially in lolita
I have to disagree with you there anon, but I guess this really depends on what its like where you live. So its subjective.

>>9030861
The weather is supposed to be nice, but flat surfaces to sit on are hard to find and there's always lots of bugs. And again, normies and hobos in the parks.

Maybe I'm just being negative and everything will go okay. I can hope, I guess.

I'm leaving town right before ILD. I've missed out on four ILD meets in a row and it feels bad watching my comm bond without me. I guess I'll just try to dress up while on vacation.

>>9030882
Do you live in the inner city or something? Isn't there a park without hobos near you?

>>9030912
There are parks in the suburbs but unfortunately a lot of us don't drive (most of us are university students) and public transit is garbage unless you're going somewhere in the inner city, so that's where the meet is going to be held. I think the plan is to find a park with less hobos, so that is something at least.

>>9030912
Not them but it's a problem where I live.
There are usually places in big cities where you can go to a park that doesn't allow just anyone in - usually anywhere you have to more than 5 bucks to get in. Hobos often don't have more than that and usually won't spend money just so they can sit somewhere for a long period of time.

>>9030855
>>9030861
>>9030882
Fortunately the park where my comm likes to have picnic meetups rarely has hobos, but there are always way too many people around. Especially if the weather is nice it's difficult to get a big enough spot for the entire group and even then we're surrounded by topless sunbathing women and screaming children trying to take pictures of the freaks. It's a beautiful park, but I hate going there when it's sunny out. Sometimes I wonder if the girls who keep organizing these picnic meets get off on the negative attention.

NYC comm isn't having a meetup and I was hoping it could be my first meet. Kinda wish I could organize a nycgull meet. Sadly I think that'd be friendlier.

>>9031140
They're having ILD meetups, you don't know anyone from NYC Comm to get yourself invited. Make some friends.

I've been a solo lolita and only recently joined my comm. My comm isn't having a meet on ILD and I’ve only been to one meet so I haven’t really made any friends in the comm yet to be invited to any private meets. I would be happy to celebrate ILD with lolitas but I guess it’s not going to happen.

I'm super psyched to go to the big ILD event in Portland this year! With all the sponsors, contests, and giveaways and such it sounds like a great event. The organizers seem really reliable and responsible, too, so I'm really hopeful! It'll be my biggest ILD event in the 7 or so years of my Lolita life so far.

>>9031189
not op but i just moved home to close to nyc so idk anyone in that comm too to get invited somewhere...

>>9031140
NYC comm is having a bunch. There is a big public picnic in the park as well. Search through the posts. You can also join the Victorian ladies and lolita frills comm. It's known as an ita comm but has well dressed and nice girls. It's a good place to start.

>>9031319
Just don't tell them you came from cgl lol

>>9031293
It should be super fun! Everything looks really well planned out!

I'm kind of disappointed in the DC comm meet up. Nothing was announced until a few days ago, and we're doing a hastily arranged fashion walk to an Asian festival thing with pretty much no relation to Japanese fashion. Last year we did a fun and fancy brunch. I probably won't go, and I don't think a lot of people will show up because it was announced so late.

I'm a lone lolita. I plan on making a tutorial for a blouse I made recently and post it on ILD.

>>9031408
All I heard from the DC comm was that most girls were going to Awesomecon and not planning anything else? I'm bummed. I wish things were planned sooner.

>>9031530
The Kawaii Style page posted a fashion walk thing through Fiesta Asia, but only like 5 people have said they're going and usually a couple drop out so I don't have high hopes. I might go still, it would be sad not to do anything.

>>9031189
>you have to know someone to get invited
While I understand I wish they had more meets welcoming to newcomers and loners who'd like to be in comms.

My comm is having a fun sounding meet but I'll be camping and shooting in the woods the whole weekend. It'll still definitely be fun but I don't think I should dress up for ild haha I'll probably just dress up with my little sister and go get bubble tea or something together.

>>9030693
>mod had nothing planned
>ask her if we're gonna do anything a few weeks ago, it's ild after all
>"yeah sure"
>she plans an event
>she changes the date to the 5th yesterday bc she forgot she already had other plans

>>9031293
I'm excited for it too! I just hope I won't suffer too much going to and from the venue in the hot weather.

>>9031787
I wonder if this is just a natural symptom of super large comms which exceed 250 members on facebook. I believe that if the Facebook group is fewer than that, then an organizer of a group event can automatically send invitations to any member. If it's 250 or more, though, the organizer can only send invites to members who also are already their Facebook friends. Even if they set the meet so that friends can invite friends, that's dependent on the goodwill/effort of other guests.

>>9033747
Not to mention if even 1/2 of those 250 rsvp 'yes' for an event, how many hostesses are willing or able to arrange a meetup with that many people? It's a lot of work even if everything goes smoothly and you know what you are doing. I'm for several smaller meets and a 1-2x per year newcomer tea or some arrangement like that with smaller friends meets rather than full comm meets. Big meets are boring unless they are done very nicely and cost a bit of money.

>>9033566
I'm honestly baffled at the people complaining about heat, it's 2 blocks away from parking. You can't handle being in the heat for 5 minutes?

>>9033843
Not if they're the type of person to constantly finding something to bitch about

>>9033055
sounds like my comm except they didn't check that the place wasn't open. gonna do the lonelita thang and go to the city instead sigh

there's a meet on Sunday but I feel unenthused as fuck cause I barely know any of the girls going, I haven't been getting any feedback anywhere on how to fix my coord and I don't have a proper petti (someone offered to sell me a tutu/petti kinda thing but I don't think it'd be enough). plus exams are next week so
just fuck me up senpai

>>9034024
>senpai

post in the help threads on here or lolita fashion mentoring

>>9033945
Well that does sound like a lot of the Portland community.

There are two meets, one too far away and one with mostly annoying and weird people.

Blog post incoming
>trying my best to host first ever ILD meet up
>planned weeks in advance
>for some reason tea house I've booked is being difficult bag o dicks to deal with
>wanted ridiculous shit not initially stated on their website like sudden hundred dollar deposit for non-private room
>they want to be paid with one check (srsly a fucking check...) instead of letting everyone pay separately with cards
>they assumed everyone would be paying for their priciest tea service and not that some might only order a salad or soup and demanded I have the exact number for high tea
>had to play phone tag numerous times because they won't speak to me during their "busy" hours
>trying to keep my event as updated as possible so I don't come off as incompetent as I dance to this bs
>not booking with them in the future just because of all this needless hassle
>all this compounded by
>newbies now asking to be spoonfed with last minute 'how do I make lolita' posts
>feel like replying that maybe they should have worked on an outfit before confirming to come to the event
>would not feel as mad if we hadn't offered coord tips and concrit weeks before, but me and others did!
>they keep playing the 'idk if I'm going!!!' game when they've missed the deadline to back out and are confirmed to freakin go
>event page also plagued by some random male 'otaku' who as far as I can tell isn't a brolita, ouiji, or aristocrat who says he's going
>no idea how he was even approved to our comm when he admits he knows nothing about the fashion??


Right now I'm just vent-posting but I swear if I have flakes back out and casual clothes show up to my event I will say words. The tea room being how it is isn't helping, but I feel I've been fairly accommodating to not merit this kind of behavior. I'm helpful, but within reason. i.e. Trying to teach someone to sew a decent lolita outfit in under three days isn't going to happen.

>>9033747
I don't think it's comms with tons of members on FB, because my comm has like 400+ members on FB but of all our meets are out in the open in the facebook group.

I think it's just NYC, or at least as a result of the dynamics of the NYC comm - there's soooo many people who want to attend meets combined with a lot of groupings of different types of people. Again my comm has a shitton of FB members, but on average only like 30 people max click "going" on an event.

Because of personality clashes I think I've read on here at least that the NYC comm tends to splinter off into friend groups really quickly and there's been some drama in the past. Also I'm pretty sure NYC is the comm that tried to hold some kind of picnic in central park meetup, but they accidentally made the event public or something, so I guess normies who were friends with lolitas saw that they were going to the event, thought it was for everyone, and then suddenly overnight like 2k people were attending - this may possibly have contributed to the exclusive/private/need-to-know-someone NYC meetups.

>>9031140
since you apparently need to know someone to have been invited, I'm guessing maybe it won't be too bad if you post in the group and ask OR if you don't want to unleash a shitload of people begging to be invited, privately message a moderator and ask if you could be invited?

>>9034089
I'm sorry anon. I haven't planned a meet like that before, I have planned a few and I know how frustrating it is when people are wishy-washy, asking weird/stupid questions, etc.

First off: It sounds like you needed to collect money to make a deposit so, stand your ground - there was a deadline to back out, if people miss it, tell them tough shit - they could sell their ticket/spot to another person, but if they don't go, firmly tell them that you're sorry but they can't get their money back or else you're the one who's going to be footing the bill for no-shows. Just remind everyone that there was a deadline and it's gone now.

Second: Try to throw some strong shade at the otaku and noobs who don't have their shit together and just remind everyone that this is a lolita event for a lolita comm on a day to celebrate the fashion. This isn't a casual meet, everyone is going to be dressed up, and that you wish for there to be a dress code that asks for the guests attending to be wearing lolita or related fashions (ouji/aristo/even otome).

Just in general the best advice I can give you as one hostess to another is to just be firm and stand your ground. I find that most attendees are just ready for your orders anyway, so it's fine to lay down rules or remind everyone of how the meet is going to be working.

I will say though anon is that it's pretty normal for restaurants to want a confirmed number of how large the group will be - they need to be able to prepare the right amount of space for the group when putting the reservation down, and depending on the size it's not completely uncommon to ask for a deposit either though they really should have that stated on their website somewhere.

>>9034054
there's a word filter on this website that I forgot about for a minute while being sleep deprived, sorry anon-sama~~~
and I have posted on coord help and gotten exactly 0 replies, probably because I'm a shit taste metafag and nobody knows how to coord meta

>>9034089
Since this is your first time.
-Yes, the restaurant wants to know how many people so they can have a space, and if your group is large enough, a private room
- Lolitas are flakes, always take deposits
- For large groups it's a pita for the restaurant to keep 20 separate checks straight and run all those cards. That's why they want one bill.
- Likewise with wanting everyone to have a set order; if you're having a "tea" meeting that would usually coincide with all having the same tea set

>>9034156
>For large groups it's a pita for the restaurant to keep 20 separate checks straight and run all those cards.
Not the customer's problem.

>>9034158

I've never understood that. 20 separate people in the restaurant they can manage, but 20 people in a group is suddenly a burden?

Same with the set menu bullshit.

>>9034116
>>9034156
Thanks for the encouragement.

I got my closer friends to help cover the deposit, as it was explained to me that it would go towards the bill before gratuity. I had a deadline to book by so I couldn't wait for everyone to shoot me their shares. I also recommended everyone bring cash to cover the bill as we'd be combining it, though I still agree with >>9034158 that it's a huge inconvenience for groups. I might have been more okay with these rules had they been listed on their booking page. I specifically selected this location and read their tos to avoid this situation, alas.

Still I'm nervous about the flakes. It's not a problem to call beforehand to reduce the reservation size or tea orders. However if they flaked out hours before I'd be screwed...

>>9034089
I think this is my comm.

I'm so sorry you're having so many problems with this place! For a hundred dollars they should /at least/ be giving you a private room. That's so shit. Also I am totally with you on the whole separate checks thing. They should be well equipped to take payment from 15-20 people separately and it's not the responsibility of the customer to worry about whatever fees that have to pay to process a credit card.

Do you have a plan B, just in case something goes really wrong with the tea place? Might be a good idea to maybe find something simple in the area that wouldn't require a reservation. (I'm not from the area so I don't really know of anything nearby but maybe there's a nice fancy wine bar or something)

Also, side note, I would have told the noobs complaining about not having lolita that they could sit this one out. I mean it's called international lolita day so.... but you were probably trying to be nice, and that's fine

>>9034089
I'm having a similar issues with newbies/cosplayers plaguing the event page Anon
>Had to make event public for the group so everyone can see it
>Which means that whenever somebody marks themselves as interested their friends see the event
>Have very clear rules that the event is lolita only
>Written at least three times on the event description
>Still get "What is lolita?"
>"Oh it sounds like cosplay! I'll come in my cosplay!"
>"Can someone lend me a maid dress for X convention?"
As the other Anon said, just do your best to be firm with these people, if you can get some of the group mods to back you up (Even by just liking your comments) it can help a bit. It's probably too late for you to do this but I've also set a reservation fee and so far none of the newbies/cosplayers who said they will attend have paid it. Also this way you can always refuse to accept their reservation fee if the person seems shady. Good luck with your event!

>>9034089
I think we're in the same comm anon, and when I looked up the random male otaku you mentioned, it says on the group page members list that he was added by another (probably inactive, I've never seen her post or go to a meet) group member, not by an admin. If I recall correctly this is against the group rules since it bypasses the application process for the group. I think you should message an admin and ask about him not obviously being a lolita and having been added by another member and not by an admin, and tell them that you find it a little uncomfortable.

In my limited experience I've found that this comm takes the "no creepers/lurkers/people who don't wear lolita" rule pretty seriously and even cleans out its member's list about once a year to get rid of people who are inactive/lurkers.

Other than that, I think you've gotten pretty sound advice from the other anons on everything else. Good luck with your meetup! Hope it goes smoothly from here on out.

> ILD meet is on Sunday
> just realized I still haven't planned a coord for it yet
> mfw

>>9034624
Thats ok Im sitting here waiting for some coord items to come in the mail I bought last saturday, hoping to god they make it in on time.

I'm going to be at a Les Miserables LARP.
Is dying on the barricades Lolita enough?

>>9034630
Only if you wear Priere D'Espoir

>tfw theres suppose to be heavy thunderstorms on ILD

My first ILD may be postponed, dang

>>9030855
I think I'm in your comm. I am not too excited about a potluck picnic, either. The odds of everyone bringing cute fancy things that would really make it feel like a special lolita event are pretty slim. I don't want to say anything about it to planners though, because they might think I'm being elitist about what is, and isn't lolita in terms of food. I just won't feel elegant eating some macaroni salad on the grass somewhere. I think we should stick to the tour of the mansion, and maybe find a nice cafe that would accomodate us.

Only me and one other person are confirmed coming to the meetup I'm hosting in my comm. There are no other meetups so maybe people are just busy? I tend to over think things but I'm just sad that nobody else might come. I want to become more active in the community but that's hard if nobody comes to the things you plan haha.

>>9034021
Aren't there others that might come with you.

>>9034697
Yeah we're in the same comm. I agree, I'd much prefer a tour of the mansion then going along trying to find a place. 17th avenue is stuffed with restaurants, including a great sushi place with lots of vegetarian options, I'm sure we could find a place. I wish we were doing that instead.

>>9034689
HLC?

>>9034757
I'm still sort of new to the comm, and borderline ita due to not having full coords and some other junk, so I don't really feel like I have any right to say anything, but if you've got more grounds than I, you should probably toss that suggestion their way.

>>9034850
SATX.

I assume HLC is houston? All of texas is getting this rain I guess!

I'm going to my meet and I'm going to smear my period blood in places where I know it'll get on other girls dresses.

Then I'll go home and laugh my ass off as people try and figure out who it was.

>>9035353
Yep. Forecast for Dallas is all storms this weekend, too. Guess that's okay since a bunch of people should be meeting up at A-kon

>>9035375
Yeah that doesnt sound so bad,

we wanted to meet up at a new bakery that opened and then hold a little swap meet at the park but with a 90% chance of heavy thunderstorms it looks like were going to have to wait for another day.

I may dress up and do something anyway

>>9035353
Yep. There's some flooding going on down here around the Brazos river. Fingers crossed.

>>9032408
Shit, this sounds so fun.
>tfw your local community would never do something this cool.

Comm is having an event fancy enough to keep most itas away, expensive enough to exclude most poorfags, life is good.

>>9030855
Most lolitas I know can't cook or bake well at all and barely know basic food safety. Plus our comm is full of special diets.
I really do not like lolita picnics as a meet idea and always vote 'no' if there is a choice and don't attend any hoping they will die off as an activity if few enough people go.

I'm actually really tempted to plan a cafe meet the weekend before or after the next time there is a picnic scheduled.

My comm is having a picnic. Here's to hoping the weather stays nice and mild. It's a really nice location and I'm happy just to be seeing my comm, and the food people are bringing sounds good. I'm just happy we're doing something desu because it seems like my comm generally doesn't do much for june ILD (whereas when it's december ILD we usually have a nice tea party or something)

What are you guys going to be wearing?

Almost here! Has anyone's comm already had their ILD meet?

>>9037637
My comm had a picnic and I brought cupcakes I farted on and watched them get eaten. Was pretty great

>>9035879
I wish my comm would allow this mentality. Instead meets are cancelled because not everyone can come or an event is too restrictive. Might have to take matters into my own hands and make expensive meets.

>>9034720
don't know anyone in the comm since i was going to make ILD the first. storm warning this weekend anyhow with a chance of flood

>>9034697
Did the event page for the mansion tour get deleted? This is the first I've heard about it since I rsvp'd to the picnic in the first place.

I really enjoy picnics, but I understand wanting them to suit the lolita atmosphere more.

>>9037666
You may be in a different comm, since it was a mansion tour to begin with, and the picnic was added on after the fact when the mansion owners said that we need to be charged $25 per person instead of whatever our meals were were worth at the brunch.

i miss my old comm so bad. just moved home from college and my old comms had amazing people init that had events almost every weekend. this new com looks like there hasnt been anything for months on end and nothing planned for ILD. and then i am close to nyc but of course since i just got back i dont know anyone and so cant do anything there without an invite... I just want to fo back to my old one but that is a 4 hour journey

>driving out to a different comm's ild meet
>trying to get friends from local comm to carpool
>local comm isn't doing anything
>oh anon it's too expensive

It's a fucking café meet you cheap asses.

>>9037644
You'll get called elitist but it's worth it so don't let that bug you, and the meets really are a lot nicer and more fun. It's a good way to do it. Some girls will step up their game to come, others will cry about it but then you just tell them that they are also free to plan any kind of meet they'd like. Not much they can really say and not look foolish after that.

>>9037785
I never understand this. They pay for nice dresses and accessories but then are too cheap to go anywhere nice and they complain about daytime cafe prices which are not usually even that expensive compared to something like dinner out at a nice restaurant. So eternally dumb. Why even bother to dress up if you are too cheap to go somewhere even a little nice?
I know the video of Lor at Taco Bell was for a joke but that's what it reminds me of if girls complain about normal places being "too expensive".

>>9037637
My comm is having their main ILD meet tomorrow. I'm glad I'm working that day because I don't like most of the people who are going anyway.

>>9037753
Gotcha. My comm is having tour and tea at a mansion, but it was $30+ from the beginning.

>>9037833
Sac?

>>9037839
SF

I'm hosting a casual meet up with my friends and opened it to the comm since there's no official ILD event. Someone I don't like decided to come for whatever reason. Didn't want to invite them, and thought the feelings of dislike were mutual. She's really condescending towards me, and has been complaining ever since she got invited.
>can we go to this other place instead
>is it safe to wear burando
>ugh parking sucks here
>can I bring my normal friends
>is there a coord contest
>can we change the date, time, location to better fit my schedule
>theme?! Idk what to wear

I just want to tell her to frig off and host her own damn thing if she has so many issues. Tbh I don't even want to go anymore. It's just really discouraging to have someone try to dictate a meet that they didn't help plan. Maybe I'm just too salty, but I wish she'd shut up about it since it's tomorrow and she's still complaining...

>>9037639
Sounds delicious!

>>9037978
Just answer all her questions with no and otherwise ignore her. You don't have to accommodate her. Be assertive. You're probably not the only one who's annoyed and as the organizer people will look to you to put your foot down on bullshit. If she gets pissy and bails then it's not your problem and you'll still have your core original meet. Have fun and don't let her get you down. It was charitable of you to open up your private plan and no one has any right to complain if you don't bend over backwards for them.

>>9037996
Absolutely this.

>>9037800
Seriously. I'm a poorfag too, but I can spare 20 bucks once a year for international lolita day. My local comm is so dead because of cheap girls who only want to have park picnics but don't want to bring any food.

>>9037996
Thank you anon, you're absolutely right! I'll try my best to be assertive if she tries to pull anything like this in person tomorrow. Hopefully I don't bitch out, because then the blame is on me if I have a bad time.

>>9033843
You obviously are not prone to heat stroke/heat exhaustion. Walking a few blocks in 100+ degree weather in Lolita is hell.

>>9038144
Most people who aren't fat don't have this problem.

>>9038222
But people who are wearing a million layers in extreme heat do. What's your damage?

>>9038240
>a million layers

you know, if you're somewhat fit it won't make you pass out or have a heat stroke to walk in clothing.

>>9038144
You aren't going to have a stroke or get heat exhaustion by walking 10 minutes in heat with a few layers. This isn't sub Sahara Africa. Drink water during the 5 blocks you have to walk and calm down.

>>9038261
She will if she's a fatty. Walking a block in the heat becomes a death sentence.

>>9034076

I'm marching in the Starlight Parade right after the meet and I've just sort of accepted that I'm going to be disgusting by tomorrow night.

>>9038222
Most lolitas are fat, even the ones who are small are fat. I have yet to meet a fit lolita, fatties sit around eating cookies and then puking them up because they hate themselves.

>>9038489

>>9038493
You must never go into the bathrooms at lolita meets

>>9038399
God could you be any more obvious with who you are?

>>9038532
Doxxing is rude. Even a bitch like me is against it.

>>9038532
Don't be a shit, Anon.

>>9038261
>>9038265
You must be joking, right? You seagulls never cease to amaze me

inb4 you come back with "you must be a fatass" or some other weak response

>>9038542
Posting a Facebook screenshot with the name removed isn't doxxing. Maybe think about what information you're spreading around next time?

>>9038566
If you legit get heat stroke from walking around in an outfit that fit people can walk around with without having health issues you need to evaluate your state of health. I'm not going to call you fat, but you most certainly are not in a fit condition if you get heat stroke from that.

>inb4 I don't live somewhere hot

I live in AZ and I don't have a problem with it, I don't see how any healthy person would.

>>9038532

What even is the point of that. I'm not trying to hide who I am or anything, so you're not accomplishing much.

>>9038570
Actually some people are more sensitive to the sun. Like legit photosensitive gals.

Your lame fucking AZ ass does not represent everyone you narcissitic bitch. Get over yourself

>>9037637
Yeah. The main ILD meet at a restaurant got cancelled due to the organiser who was unable to attend. Ended up hanging out with friends even when the weather was bad.

>>9034160
With 20 tables, they come and go and different times so it doesn't take long to run the cards periodically. With 20 cards, it can take 10-20 minutes, and that's way longer than a customer likes to wait when they're finished eating and have to go. Also that's 10-20 minute the restaurant can't run any other cards.

Set menu is also understandable. Having the kitchen deal with 20 orders of different apps and mains that all need to be out at once is a huge deal. Cutting it down to all the same thing, or a smaller menu helps greatly.

Hey TX gulls, looks like the weather might be clearing up a bit! However storms seem to be concentrated 4-8 pm so maybe don't go to any outside events during this time.

>>9038668
>>9038570
>>9038570


Plus certain disabilities can cause heat sensitivity, certain medications etc.,

big surprise! different people have different bodies that have different fucking tolerances!

>>9038668
We are talking about sensitivity to heat, not just the sun itself. Heat sensitivity can be combated by raising your endurance levels, aka getting fit.


But you'd rather whine and say you ~can't~ because some something you "don't" have control over than take actual action to fix the problem huh?

>>9034166
You're going to have one or two flakes. Guess who covers that money? You.

Always collect full payment up front, that's the RSVP. No pay, no play. Not sure what to charge? You should be. You should have asked the restaurant up front about deposit, requested a pre-fix menu, and given them a tentative number with the understanding you'll give them a final number 1-2 weeks before the party.

Set price for pre-fix menu + tax + gratuity = Total payment sent to your paypal as a gift payment. Deadline is the date you set with the restaurant to give them a final number, or until you hit capacity.

Get a Paypal debit card for your account, that's what you pay with at the restaurant.

Bam, you're done. Flakes aren't a problem, the restaurant doesn't ask for a deposit because they're nervous about your ability to pay in full, you don't harass the waiter with a bill split 20 ways, everyone has a good time with plenty of food and all that came out of your pocket was your own portion.

>>9038846
Of course the storms would be concentrated around the time we would most likely be in the park.

Fuck you weather

>>9038861
I have photosensitivity due to my lupus. I only go outside when it's overcast if I can help it due to my throat starting to feel tight after I've been in the sun for 10-15 minutes. Heat and sunlight both cause reactions for me. I complained about it once to my husband when having to stand in a line outside to recover something and some chick who overheard starting quietly making fun of me (I think. I couldn't overhear quite clearly enough to confront her, which was frustrating). By the time I could get out of the sun I was on the verge of collapsing and throwing up. So, that's an example of a disability that fucks with the ability to be out in the sun.
>tfw I lift and it makes no difference for shit like this

>>9038936
See, you are a prime example of how modern medicine has hindered natural selection.

>>9038941
My lupus medicine doesn't really stop that. Even without medication things are pretty much the same, just more painful. People also still die from lupus, typically due to organ failure, because autoimmune diseases are incurable. So in this case, this is actually a bad argument for medicine hindering natural selection.

>>9038903
Yes ma'am!

>>9038941
Yikes.

>>9031293
>Ayu running Portland comm ILD and not the Seattle one
How peculiar

>>9038950
She's not running it, she helped plan it with like 8 other people. Jesus, your vendetta is ridiculous.

>>9038928
Hopefully yall don't get wet on the way to Minnano though! The park did look lovely however.

>>9038948
With that attitude, you'll do great, kid!

>>9037637
We got together to craft, drink matcha lattes and then brunch at a hipster place and shopping, it was pretty good.

>>9038963
I bought some matching umbrellas for today just in case, so hopefully even if it rains I wont be caught unaware! I was looking forward to the park though

>>9038961
Doesn't matter. She knew she fucked up with most of the Seattle lolitas.

> decided not to go to my comm's main ILD meet this year
> going to a private meet instead
> already seeing pictures from my comm's ILD meet on my feed
> so many newbies
> so many itas
> mfw I'm glad I didn't come

this is probably really bad timing but if anyone's up, I can host a virtual tea party right now for whoever is feeling the ILD vibes still! if i get a response, I'll post my rabb.it link afterwards.

otherwise, I might host one Sunday 3pm-ish (US central timezone). However, let me know what times work better for those who are interested!

I posted this in the lolita gen but also thought it would be appropriate here as well. I didn't really get to celebrate ILD this year and so I thought it might be nice to at least try to celebrate with seagulls here.

>>9039630
I'm interested in a Sunday thing! That's when my comm's meetup is, anyway.

>>9038950
Thank God she jumped ship. This year's ild was on point! One of the meal options was fucking steak! Only 60$ to attend with goodie bags that had actual gifts in them!

Amazing what can be accomplished when you aren't scamming people

>>9039630

Sunday 10pm would be cool but I also understand that not everybody is on a fucked schedule this weekend.

>>9039748
Ok Allyson.

>>9038941
>assuming every living thing doesn't go through cycles of healthiness and unhealthiness
>assuming diseases/illnesses will be eradicated by muh bio 101 knowledge of natural selection
>assuming lupus is hereditary (some proof of that, but far from definitive)
>actually making an anti-modern medicine case, likely a anti-vaxxer dumbass

>>9038941
wow, edgy

>>9038877
>Heat sensitivity can be combated by raising your endurance levels, aka getting fit.

can you back that up with proof? because that sounds like bullshit.

I went to my first formal meetup, after having been a lonelita for quite a while

Boy, you guys were right about how common it is for lolitas to have no concept of etiquette or manners in general.

>>9040010
Barring anyone being ill, (because they should follow what their doc says and tell anyone else to hush), there ARE re-enactment groups who come out in full Elizabethan and medieval gear (some also are fighters in leather armour with padding under their clothes and padded steel helms so they are exercising pretty heavily) in the parks in southern US states in full sun every weekend. Ask any and they will tell you that the more you come out in the heat in covered, insulating clothing, the more you just get used to it and acclimate to the heat (and humidity, if present). That's why I always roll my eyes at lolitas going from one air-conditioned place to another yet still crying, 'muh blouse, muh sox, muh wig, too hot'.
Also, what is hot yoga, training in heated rooms, sauna, etc? It's a thing.

Physical sun sensitivity though, no, there are sun allergies and an array of meds that can make your skin very sun sensitive including some skin care products (retinoids/retinols) and only covering up, UV parasols and as little exposure as possible can prevent skin damage, burns and nasty blistering.

>>9040031

>>9040031

This sounds more like acclimatization and not actually "getting fit" as the previous comment suggests, though.

As for lolitas, remember that sweat and bodily fluids can sometimes mark fabric permanently, or some chemical reaction between deodorant with sweat leaves a stink that's difficult to remove in their clothes. So they aren't necessarily complaining as much as worried whether they'll be able to get all that stuff out of their burando later on. Unlike re-enactors, lolita clothes have an active secondhand market, so while a re-enactor takes little to no loss from having a dress destroyed by bodily fluids, a lolita is losing money she could have made selling the dress on, if she does damage it.

Keep in mind, too, unlike re-enactors who seem to enjoy clothes in relation to some time period/fantasy, for lolita, there is such no reference period or any other anchor. 100% of the focus is always on the clothes themselves, not on whether people handsewed them or what manner they were put together or whether there were servants or what the servants wore. And it's very hard to enjoy that 100% focus when the 100% pretty dress in question is 100% sticky, sweaty and smelly, with nothing else to take that focus off them.

So did anyone pass out of ruin their brand with sweat on the way to ILD? If not then let's go back to actually being on topic.

Did LA comm have an ILD after all?

>>9039736
>>9039761
I can host two of them! I don't see much interest though so I might cancel the 3pm one. I'll repeat myself again for more visibility though.

Any anons who are feeling in the ILD mood still, wanna have a virtual tea party? I was going to host one in 1.5 hours but will also do a late night one for the other anon! Let me know what hours (and include your timezone) fit best for you guys.

>>9040497
Ah I hate to be annoying about this. Since there wasn't a response, I pushed it back.

I'll try again at 7pm and 10pm EST. You can either email me or reply to this post for any questions/details.

>>9040497
Ah I hate to be annoying about this. Since there wasn't a response, I pushed it back.

I'll try again at 7pm and 10pm EST. You can either email me or reply to this post for any questions/details.

>100+ degrees out
>I'm sick
>had to go to work anyway

I'll try and do something in December I guess...
Summer colds are the worst.

I am so insanely jealous of the Portland ILD event, even the Seattle one sounded amazing. I wish I could host something as grand as that, but I don't think I could get enough attendance to make it worth it.
>inactive comm members make me so sad...

>>9040732
I know, it's hard enough to plan things as it is. I don't mind trying but my comm has a lot of flaky people so I don't want to try for a big event and have it fail through because people end up not going or changing plans.

>>9040759
My thoughts exactly. I know you can just collect money up front and that will deter the flakes, but still. I'd hate to put something spectacular together and be gravely disappointed because 4 people showed up.

>>9033843
Nobody likes being out in humid ass heat, walking in heels, and having makeup melt off their face.
I have never met ANYBODY, fat or average, who has enjoyed walking outside in the heat wearing lolita when it could be averted.
At my ILD meet everyone was complaining about the heat when we went outside.
Can this "lel only fatties sweat" meme fucking die? It's so obnoxious in that the people saying this are pretending they don't sweat in hot weather just to slight fattychans.

>>9038489
You sound like a fun person with many friends.
>re: the source of this annoying crap

>>9038570
>I live in AZ and I don't have a problem with it, I don't see how any healthy person would
Holy shit get over yourself. There's other medical conditions people have than being fat that would make them adverse to baking in the sun.

>>9040772
Yeah, plus, you can't really pull off something amazing without money beforehand. I wonder how things get started honestly. How much were those tickets anyways? I live in a big city so downtown is where we should meet up but venues in downtown are always pricey so some girls don't bother to join since it's too expensive for them and they'd rather save up for a con. I don't mind cons but a change of scenery can be nice every once in a while.

>>9040794
Find a venue with a good cancellation policy, and keep your expectations low at first. You also need to show poeple beforehand that you can put together a meet. Get exact numbers for charges including tax and tip, and make sure nothing gets added day of. Then add a few bucks to the ticket price to get decorations and prizes. Be thrifty though, you're not planning your birthday party, people want to get their money worth. It's stressful as all hell so you need to enjoy stress and work well under it.

>>9040794
Seattle anon here, ours cost 60$ and was honestly worth every bit

>>9040915

Wasn't it? The venue was great--convenient, lovely staff, intimate & gawker-free without being crowded, AC, a lovely 3 course meal, cute & useful gift bags & prizes for everyone, great company and well dressed attendance.

The hostesses clearly knew that they had to improve on the issues of last year and they pulled it off in spades. I was a little hesitant to buy my ticket this year but I'm glad I did.

>>9040937
Totally! It's a far cry from last year's cluster fuck of an event. I hear they are also planning a nice event for winter ild!

Did anyone go to the DC comm event?

>>9041002
I'm glad it went well. I was worried after what I've heard about the girl organizing it. Was there more than just her involved?

>>9034630
Les mis larp???? Where?

>>9041021
Which girl are you referring to and what did you hear? One of the girls kinda has a bad rep, but once you actually talk to her you realize is abunch of b.s.

There was more than one involved but I believe there were two main ones and a few other helpers.

>>9041055
I know one of the girls I thought she was cute and nice, and then I met her and she was really condescending and rude irl.

>>9041066
Haha I think I know which one you are talking about. Honestly I didn't care for her at first but then I spent more time with her and realized that she's just really dry. Like her humor and that she's kinda sarcastic and cynical. Once I realized that's what it was I grew to like her and appreciate her no bullshit take on things

>>9041083
I only see her at meet ups every now and then and whenever I have sat near her she's always shit talking everyone and everything. Because of that I never made an effort to get closer.

>>9040367
Someone held a small tea party today (Sunday) at Chado. Haven't heard back from anyone on how it was yet.

>>9041115
Everyone shit talks though. Seattle isn't immune to it. There's a good deal of drama to talk about

>>9041083
There's a difference between sarcastic and condescending. Go back to working on your garbage sweets jewelry and shit talking Ayu.

>>9041272
vendetta much?

>>9041272
Umm...I don't make jewelry

>>9041272
Hi Ayu! I see you aren't handling not being the center of attention very well

>>9041320
It's cute you think I'm Ayu. I just know I've only heard girls who are annoying and gossipy complaining about her. What did she even do? Hurt your fee fees or something? Or is she just a target you decided to pick on?

>>9041375
If you don't know what Ayu has done then you are too much of a fucking noob to be shit talking here.

>>9041375
Well you'd know if your actually listened to said girls now wouldn't you? It's not petty complaints about her. They are valid. Lurk more before white Knight ingredients. You only make her look worse

>>9041393
Ugh stupid auto correct. *white knighting*

>>9041391
>>9041393
All I've heard is "that stupid bitch who does she think she is".
Like literally that's all I've heard and I've been using /cgl/ for a while. Someone mentioned scamming, maybe elaborate? Otherwise I have to assume she's just a victim of drama hungry Seattle girls. I feel bad for her.

>>9041391
All I ever hear is that she is horrible but when asked why no one ever dishes up any details. Spill what happened or quit talking shit.

>>9041426
People don't go after somehow with absolutely no reason. You alway said the reason yourself. She scammed the Seattle comm on last year's ild. Her and her friends got a table with champagne and a fancy Center piece reserved for just them while a good portion of paying attendees doesn't even have a place to sit. Plus the event cost 75$, the gift bags had no gifts, only business cards, they lied about the details and the food was non existent. Just to name a few things!

>>9041426
Lolcow exists.

>>9041434
Okay, we're getting somewhere now. Was that it? Because it sounds really shitty but not worth dragging her name through the mud constantly.

>>9041438
Wait wait wait.....she was on lolcow?!

>>9041440
Are you serious? Scamming an entire community out of their money isn't enough for you. Ha! If that's the case just go set 75$ on fire right now. Or Better yet, give it to me.

>>9041440
One reason you don't hear much is because there's an obscene amount of small personal instances that people prefer not to post on the Internet to avoid drama. Attaching your own name to the drama doesn't look well. One reason people are stuck on ILD last year is because it finaly gave people something to talk about anonymously.

A few more things about last year: There was zero transparency or updates about the event other than advertising brands that would have prizes there, and to say how "wonderful it would be." I understand trying to sell the event to people, but don't say the gift bags are better than last year if they're crap. Don't say the menu will get posted and don't. The menu felt like a huge bait and switch. $70 should get you better than deli sandwiches, pasta salad, meatballs, and shrimp cocktail. It looked like it was all grabbed from Costco. They most likely knew what would be served ahead of time, but chose not to post. There also weren't dietary allergies labeled like they promised. Chairs for only half the attendees. They sold extra raffle tickets to people at the venue so if you didn't pay more on top of your ticket, then you most likely wouldn't even get a raffle prize to make up for the ticket cost. There was a seperate raffle to enter for a dress for $5. But where did this money go? They never told us. There was never an apology about the shortcoming. People felt deceived in the end and never got an explanation about anything. Then to top it off, her wife can on cgl and self-posted a whole bunch of "come at me brah" type comments.

>>9040146
Lots of re-enactors paid a lot more than the cost of a lolita coord to even buy the supplies to sew their clothing not even counting time put in to construct or commission it or things like corsets (which are expensive to make, buy and very hard to even clean at all) so they are smart about wearing it in the heat but they do not let it deter them. Cotton or linen under-dresses, dress shields, (for Lolita, cotton washable blouses and boomers in addition etc. ) Where there's a will there's a way is all I'm saying. Even women who wear full hair extensions, lined dresses, pantyhose or tight jeans lots of makeup and high heels in full summer are willing to go through a bit of discomfort to rock their fashion. Smart bikers wear leathers to ride winter or summer for safety as well. Ranch hands spend all day in long sleeved denim with jeans and boots in the Southwestern US and Australian heat all summer from dawn to dusk.

I'm not going to get into the 'fatties get hotter' debate because it really depends on the person and their tolerance or endurance but y'know, people can and do accomplish dressing up and going out in a variety of heavier clothes and without whining about it too. If you are too hot, why not just plan to attend indoor things, host indoor things or stay home. I really get annoyed hearing people gripe about the heat/humidity when you are just wearing a party outfit and sitting around. If you can't take it or acclimate then that's your problem, not the group's.

>>9041426
Wtf. Do you think communities just pick a girl to sacrifice for a good harvest?

>>9041670
Maybe the event could have been better but I don't think they were scamming anyone, just trying to cover their asses because it cost too much and they were losing money. Venues usually charge a 25% service fee on top of all the other rental costs, so a menu that seems like it's only worth $20 a person can skyrocket in costs once you pay for the space rental and add the fees on top of it.

>>9041916
It's stupid to rehash this drama but you're reaching with the 25% service fee. The venue charges are clearly stated here
http://seattleeventspace.com/payment/
Maybe you're friends with the hostesses but anyone who attended could do the math. $65 with 95 attendees. A $6175 budget resulted in >>9041670. I recall all the raffles prizes were donated as well. Everyone I talked to after the event felt ripped off. The worst part was definitely that no apology or explanation was ever given. It must have been awful for the girls who'd driven from Portland.

Maybe there's a slim chance that they didn't pocket any of the money. It still doesn't excuse the clusterfuck that it was.

>>9041988
This plus the fact that this year's ild cost 60$ and we got a 3 course meal. So theres no reason that we couldn't have real food at an event that cost 75$

>>9041988
Were you even there? There were not 95 attendees.

>>9041988
I've never seen the service fee listed up front but when you request a quote they include it. I plan events in a much smaller city than Seattle and I've only seen a 19% one once, most venues charge around 23-25% on top of whatever costs you'll find on their website.

The rain has been shit here lately. HLC cancelled their meet while HLS went along with theirs.

>>9042081
95 was the number confirmed that went in the event RSVP looking at it right now. I can't be assed to count faces through the photos, but there were definitely 50+ attendees. If there were fucking less than expected why were there still not enough tables for everyone to sit and eat? What are you trying to prove?

>>9042145
I'm not trying to prove anything, but you are trying to prove that they scammed people so you could at least have your number right. There's almost a $3000 difference between 50 and 95 people attending.

>>9042212
No matter how you ass it, they scammed people. If it wasn't way 1 it was way 2 3 or 4

>>9042117
HLC just rescheduled theirs for next week. I didn't hear anything about HLS, just heard some people being bummed about not getting to celebrate ILD so I assumed people decided not to go anyways.

>>9041916
Then you pick a different venue. The venue wasn't some insanely fancy place that warranted the cost.

>>9041988
If I recall correctly from last year's cgl post, half the prizes were donated, half were bought with ticket money. I believe the attendance was around 65, and they had maybe three tickets unsold. Don't start doing math on these numbers since I'm going from memory here. One thing that could have easily been cut was the DJ. He didn't take requests, so it was essentially a guy standing at a table (that we desperately needed), playing a playlist from his laptop. An iPod and a decent speaker could have done his job.

The event initially sold out and they later released more tickets. What makes little sense here is why they would have to pay for unsold tickets when the venue is a flat fee, and the caterers didn't spend much on food. A head count given 3-5 days ahead would give them an accurate food order. What makes absolutely no sense is why they would sell more tickets without having more tables secured. And to add, why not just apologize at the event for this? It doesn't have to be heartfelt, just a simple, "Sorry about the table situation, there was a mix up". Apologies and explanations go a long way.

It may not have been a scam, but it was gross incompetence on their part that resulted in many people feeling cheated.

>>9042521
Can't wait for the person (aka one of the coordinators) from last year to start spouting off about how the organizers would have been in the right to pocket the money because "they deserve to be paid for organizing the event its soooo hard omg muh time and effortz!!!1"

I didn't go anywhere because I sprained my ankle and broke a few bones at work. I didn't feel like celebrating on crutches.

>>9042735
You should be celebrating. You get a pity-party after all.

>>9042521
The DJ supposedly was providing his services for free. That was nice of him, but he wasn't really adding much... A laptop playing classical piano music would have been more appropriate to the theme.

>>9041776
I attended a very packed ILD meet. There was air conditioning inside and it was great UNTIL everyone showed up finally. That fucking body heat man.
Everyone complained about the heat, regardless of size. There's a skelly mode girl in my comm and even she was fanning herself constantly.

>Where there's a will there's a way
sure, but that's not gonna keep people from bitching about things. Fuck, isn't that why this site exists? So everyone can complain openly about their dumb hobby/interest without or at least barely any consequence.

>>9041776

Cost vs resale value are completely different things.

>>9034089
The random male otaku sounds like a new guy in our comm. He didn't go to our ILD thankfully.