/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

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forever fav sweet street snap

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posting again, from last thread, because it's oddly charming

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1 of 2

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ending dump with one of the photos that got me into lolita.
shameful taste aside, I still love this.

Double Bag + Parasol is so good

Who says skirts have to be casual

>>9324953
oh the days of Giant Utensile Props

Can't decide if I should keep getting those old sweet dresses or go for the newer ones with the same feel. The older ones are amazing but some are approaching 7 or more years of secondhand wear, and I'm nervous about the declining quality while the price is still above $100 on them.

But dream dresses are fruits parlor and wonder cookie..

>>9326462
Keep getting the older ones now, and focus on newer ones later is what I'm doing.

>>9326463
That's a good idea. How do you find the quality of the very old dresses that you bought recently? Have the prints faded, etc?

>>9326464
Not very old but, I got milky planet and sugar carnival last year, milky planet is still in pretty much perfect condition, while sugary carnival is definitely a little faded, both I got for less than $100.

>>9326475
That's pretty damn good! I'm assuming by the amazing prices that you got them from japan auctions/sellers?

>>9326696
they were actually both from us sellers strangely enough, though I do get most of my stuff from Japanese sellers. So definitely keep an eye out in multiple places for dresses you're looking for.

>>9326462
you could find both of those prints on japanese secondhand for 100 or less if you really kept your eyes peeled for a deal

the only dress I have that's faded is fantasic dolly, and that's only because my friend who has the same print wore it at the same time I did so I could compare vibrancy. Sill not very noticeable, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

>>9326696
Not that anon but perhaps I can help.

It all depends on the cuts/colors, really.

For Sugary Carnival: The lavender jsk seems to be the most popular color and cut. The jsk and headbow still goes for around 200. Blue is a close second. Pink and black seem to be in the 150-200 range. It is completely different with OPs though, those seem to be in the 100-150 range.

For milky planet, yellow is still pretty sought after, more so in the JSK ver. (250-300) as opposed to the OP (200-250). The older blue, pink, and black go for more than the newer release, ranging in the 200/200/150-200 price ranges for both cuts. The newer mp release goes for 150-200 with navy being the most popular. The salopettes I have seen for 120-180.

This is all the western market, mind you. If you can find them from Japan they will be a bit cheaper but not by much once you factor in SS fees and shipping.

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there's a navy milky planet jsk for 13,000 yen that keeps lowering in price, if anyone wants it or wants to track it. Will probably go down to 12,000 if no one bids, it started at 15,000 a couple weeks ago.

http://www.mbok.jp/item/item_487062130.html?_SRC=li_i0

Anyone else feeling serious pangs of sadness looking at this thread and the last? I just miss the cheerful, vibrant charm of 2010 era sweet so much. Somehow it all looks less childish and trite than current sweet. There was a clownishness to it that seems to have been replaced with, idk, pageantry? Sorry for the long winded bitterfagness, I just really love the old sweet. Sorry I have a more OTT pic for this blog post.

Is it just me, or does anyone else kind of feel like circle lenses are really needed to completely round out an OTT sweet coord?

>>9326886
All the sadness I feel is absolved by the fact that I really, really hated the wigs used in OTT sweet. I love that natural hair is so much more common in lolita nowadays.

>>9326891
i think big eyes are a must. people with dark eye colours might not need them as much as blue eyed girls do

>>9326444
This is the cutest fucking thing everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>>9326886
>pageantry

you hit it right on the head for me--I absolutely agree.
It's sad because even the most exposed models aren't dedicated lolitas anymore.
It's really just Risa, so I'm exaggerating with the plurals but still.

I'm bummed man.

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This girl is always so fucking cute

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She's so cute!

>>9327847
Does anyone have sauce on that scarf?

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Looks like Milklim

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I didn't realize how much I love OTT sweet until this thread. I always thought I liked casual and classic but damn...these are amazing

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>that fucking mogwai

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>tfw cadney doesn't even wear this style anymore and succumbed to the pressure to wear boring classic to maintain popularity

>>9324953
Love that wig
>>9324957
Lund, wtf?

>>9326819
>clicks link
>sees it's re release milky planet
>slams door

>>9329157
she didnt switch to maintain popularity. she became interested in vintage fashion as her love for lolita faded away

Does anyone know of any blogs on Tumblr that regularly post OTT sweet? It takes me forever to find pictures without swimming through a sea of classic coords.

What dress or item do you wish a brand would re-release?

I know this will never happen in a million years but I wish AP would re-release the sugary carnival tokyo colorway. It's the only Sugary Carnival that I like.

What are your OTT Sweet era dream dresses?

>>9329655
I also wish AP would re-release milky berry in a fabric that doesn't bleed. I know they crank out strawberry prints yearly but this one is just so amazing. I always hesitate buying it even for cheap because I don't want to buy something i have a high chance of ruining.

>>9326470
I really like the mintxsax colour combo here! It's not something I'd normally think to do but it works

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Completely agree. Old OTT Sweet has an air of fun to it. Pageantry is like the best word to describe the current OTT Classic trend. Everyone tries to outdo each other and pretend to be a fucking princess, wearing borederline costumes, while OTT Sweet is like "i just love this shit, let me put it all on my head, and take pics with my best friend who is also a pastel vomit blob".

>>9329599
but the re-release is cute, anon

>>9329664
I have this print and have washed it in a washing machine no problem. Just use a dye catcher.

>>9329655
been checking my mailbox every 5 mins because I am expecting this dress in the mail

>>9329818
Wow you are lucky anon! How much did you get the sugary carnival for? I see it going for about $400 so im still hesitant.

>>9329812
I prefer the release . Day salopette in navy and lavender op are some of my dream dresses.

>>9330055
The re-release OP has that cute little apron. I'm such a sucker for it/aprons in general
>has realisticsweet ever looked bad, ever

>>9329886
That's about what I paid for - 400 seemed like a steal for me considering it used to go for 700+. It was a pricepoint I didn't mind paying.

>>9329599
>thinking there was originally a navy colorway
jfc how new are you

>>9329777
Totally with you guys. I'm a gothic Lolita myself, but I love looking at OTT sweet pictures because it's all so whimsical and fun. Everyone wearing it looks so happy to be a cotton candy fluff! Because it was so in your face it felt like girls wore it because they liked it instead of for the likes, it takes a lot of balls to be a pastel billboard walking down the street.

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i miss realisticsweet so much

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spam incoming

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Unu had such a unique style back in the day. I miss her, Sae and Takulu

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Does anyone have a source for this? She had some really interesting coordinates.

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The cotton candy prop kills me, it's so cute

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https://sucre-dolls.tumblr.com/
bowsbeforeboyss.tumblr.com
lolitahime.tumblr.com ar some suggestions but im realy in the dark here as well...

>>9330681
Does anyone have a criteria for what makes a coordinate OTT sweet? For me most OTT sweet coordinates usually must feature unnatural colored hair or wigs. Emphasis on the unatural colored hair. Except in >>9330679, but the abundance of accessories, the cotton candy prop, candy wrapper on her head and extra apron made it OTT.

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True, but i also on the other hand think that during this time people wearing ott sweet got a lot of critique of all looking like cookie cutter AP clones and very uncreative wearing full sets of new it-prints etc. . i guess that depends on how OTT you make it.

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so.many.bags

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I think this is pre-internet fame pastelbat. I have a ton of old Daily-Lolita pictures saved to my hardrive.

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i love the "is it too much" obviously NO haha

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AP paris in 202, i think?

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based Shelby

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I'll always be jealous of how beautiful and cute Lunie's face is.
She looks so good in Sweet, her face is cute yet not childish and she always look cute in pictures.

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I recently got Jewelry Jelly and Sugary Carnival both in perfect condition (the first was about $100, the second $200 but it was fullset with two pairs of OTKs) I'm really into AP's older OTT-sweet prints and I'm glad that you can still get them in good condition for quite cheap

>>9330672
Takulu is still wearing Lolita Fashion and Ott sweet outfits in general. Her twitter is @takulu0306.

>>9330726
I know that feel. Years ago I was so jealous of her and her friend Kitch. They were so pretty into thoses ott sweet coords and everything suit them.

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and she even wishes she could go back to it
thats sad ):

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>Love that wig
tfw some people think it looks like a cosplay wig.

>>9330795
I don't see why she can't?

It pisses me off when people follow trends so hard they think they can't wear something that's not so popular anymore. It's a niche style ffs, it's not like you are going to dress like it's the 70's.

>>9330827
This. I hate the part of cgl that hates old trends within the fashion.

>>9330827
Could also be because she is getting older. It's usually frowned upon to still wear sweet if your older and don't look young enough.

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This is perfection.

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I miss when the messy hair was a thing. I just love how it looks!

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That makes me incredibly sad to think about

>>9330886
Cadney doesn't look old though

>>9329157
Maintain popularity? She's still considered popular? IMO she looked way better in sweet. Her best coords were ott sweet. In classic she looks old and tired. If anything I think she would maintain popularity by going back since it's a style that a lot of people love, but don't wear often, and don't see. It would be nice at least IMO to see someone putting out new ott coords instead of us just rehashing the same old ones over and over

>>9330530
I didn't know she was inactive? she just posted an outfit Dec. 2016. Though scrolling through the yaplog, looks like she's doing more ott classic/gothic. I still like whatever she's doing, as long as she's still in lolita doing something I'm happy.

>>9330680
>back when AMO used to model for Angelic Pretty

>>9330938
damn is that AMO? that is...not a good photo of her

>>9330950
I've never seen that ad before, but then again I hated that series so I'm not complaining. Amo is my favourite AP and kera model, I don't care if she likes lolita irl or not, she looked so sweet and cute in them.

>>9330900
And there's established OTT sweet lolitas my age, well past the age cgl thinks is appropriate to wear a bow carnival on your fucking head. It's whatever.

>>9330349
I need these tights so badly, why can't I find any cute ones like this?

>>9330686
it's not the hair so much. ott sweet is the polar opposite of casual sweet. very embellieshed, tons of accessories and several different colors used to build the coord.
some of the photos posted are of just regular sweet, but I don't want to shit this thread up by bitching about it, cuz they're still cute coords.
ott sweet is playful and dramatic excess.
it certainly requires more than one hair accessory, and if not, there'd better be colorful make-up and face jewels!!

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girl on the right looks amazing.
i love pastel yellows!!

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Those tights are from maniaQ but it looks like they're all sold out

As a Gothic and classic lolita Ott is my life. I adore realisticsweet's coords with SC the most. I've gone out of my comfort zone and bought SC OP but I didn't care for the way it looked so I'll be keeping an eye out for the special set jsk in navy

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Why did OTT sweet die ?
Will it ever come back in popularity?

I really wanna get into more OTT sweet (it was what I loved back when I got into lolita around 2009) but I feel like my face isn't cute enough for it. I have a long skinny face (kinda like a more attractive Lor) and I'm wondering if anyone has tips to help make it look more sweet? Or am I just doomed to be butterface OTT sweet lolita?

>>9332634
This is such a cute a modern way to wear Sugary Carnival!

>>9332713
OTT sweet didn't completely die out, it just changed. Brown/chocolate came into style, and with it darker pastels, and slowly jewel tones.

A lot of people stilll wear OTT sweet but in a more modern way, and I still see a lot of people wearing the older dresses. It's just that not everyone likes to post on CoF, and for the very big events people like to go super princessy.

Why did it change? Mostly because of what the brands release. They can't keep making the same stuff, the designers get new inspirations, and people fall in love with the new creations.

A lot of people also take coord inspirations from the brand fashion shows which go super ott

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Also you can still see hints of the older OTT sweet styling in the newer AP fashion shows.

So it's not completely dead.

Fresh off of CoF

>>9332713
i am happy that lolita is a subculture that thrives and changes, if not then it would have died out. i think the different "trends" during the years only added to the richness of the fashion, and you can choose your style/influence by yourself. wether oldschool sweet, OTT sweet or todays more classic mature sweet. it's nice to have this variety to be insipred from!

the reason fashion changes? well, there is of course many causes but i think the main reason is what the customers buy, because it will affect what brands release. if ap notices that their more chiffony or chocolatey pieces sell more than their super sweet pastel ones, they will of course follow this because they are a company. then of course, who decides the trends? the companies or the consumers? it works in a dynamic way and both affect each other, i guess.

>>9332888
Adorable but why is this taken in a public bathroom barf

>>9332713
A couple things killed OTT Sweet

>People grew out of it/got bored with it
Sae and her friends were the OTT sweet lolita idols of many, and when she stopped posting so much, that signaled an end to the style

>It became overtaken by newbies
Because OTT is so noticable and flashy, it brought a ton of new people into the fashion, who were young, and weebish, who could only afford replicas and shitty GLW twintail wigs. They cheapened the look. There was a time when everyones first coordinate was a pink and lavender twintail wig and a Bodyline carousel dress.

>Replicas
When prints were immediately replicated the moment they came out, that made them lose the prestige they once had.

>GLW and efame
Gothic Lolita Wigs had their "muse" contests, and when the Lolita community migrated from Livejournal to Tumblr and Facebook everyone was a lot more concerned with being internet famous and promoting themselves.

We probably won't see OTT Sweet as it was in 2009 come back. Angelic Pretty just doesn't make prints like that anymore (does Maki even make prints anymore? Her work ended up being the staples of OTT), and it seems like the Larme and toned down trend is affecting all j-fashions and not just Lolita. We might see a small revival, but it will look different than it did back then.

>>9333113
it looks clean, though.

>>9333113
probably a big mirror in it.

>>9332888
I want her wig, anyone know where it is from? So perfect for ott sweet.

>>9335421
She said it's from GLW

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WHO is this!?

>>9337114
Found her on Lookbook under the name Larissa L.

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>>9329157
You don't seriously believe that people think that way right? Look at her tumblr, she's barely posted in the past half year at all.

>>9330353
I can remember seeing the black color way go for £90 and I died because I was at work at the time and missed the end of the auction.

>>9326462
I worry about this too. But I don't like the newer prints as much.

>>9341869
At least nowadays other colors of sugary carnival go for ~10,000-20,000 JPY ? go forth