/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

it's disheartening how ignorant we are of how pieces are manufactured/contracted by brands.

I'd really like to see some econolitas or fashion merchandising lolitas put together a blog to reveal how everything gets made (brand & indie) and how the rights get worked out in Japan and China.

this aspect of the fashion is really fuzzy and misunderstood, especially as different countries have different laws.
I'd really love to learn more about the business practices and what, if any, illusions we hold of AP, Baby, etc.

if this kind of resource doesn't already exist, I'd be all over working with some other gulls to create an informative LJ

>>9378095
I wish lolitas would think thrice before outing themselves just to respond to crit.

>>9378126
You are seriously overreacting. Do you pay this much attention to the stuff you buy at the supermarket?

>>9378126
Are you looking to start a business or something?

>>9377919
>>9377950
They'd be acceptable to a meet in all the comms I've ever been in if coordinated in an otherwise lolita way. I can only see it coming off badly if your comm is very OTT.

>>9378155
Shit, wrong thread.

>>9378156
I posted that in the favorite coords thread last week and nobody replied to it so I'm glad you're making more people see it

I keep feeling like I should sell off parts of my closet because of how few meets I go to due to conflicts or fatigue. But nobody in my community is buying because most everyone is a poor HS kid, and selling online is a fucking hassle and a half. I had a girl actually offer me a hot glue deer antler headband and some cat ears as a trade for a capelet a few swap meets ago, and at the last one another girl tried to trade me an old tatty peignoir for an Angelic Pretty OP.

I could probably make a killing buying plus size shoes off taobao and selling them to the desperate Sasquatch-chans in my comm though, I unloaded three pairs of size 10.5 heels in like 30min last time.

>>9378251
Why not become a lone lolita?

>>9378128
This so hard. If you had any idea about what is actually going on in the food industry or even fast fashion brands are like in major countries you wouldn't have enough minutes in the day to look into this.

>>9378259
That's a bit exaggerated. It takes time and effort but once you know it, you know it. You don't have to figure it out again every day. I don't support fast fashion, lolita is not, and besides lolita I only buy clothing from stores I trust. Sometimes you don't know where x part of x was made, but you can still make the decision not to buy from the worst brands. I'm lucky to live in a country with better food regulations than the US tough. I can only hope that doesn't change because of things like CETA.

>>9378255

Because I don't exactly have a life outside my apartment and my job isn't lolita-friendly. I have nowhere to wear my nice things except meets, and getting dressed up for a twenty minute jaunt to the grocery store is a little excessive imo

>>9378126
at times like this, i wish /cgl/ wasn't so feminine. other boards amass large quantities of information about their hobbies and disseminate them via pastebins and such, and the more interesting/relevant bits become memes that mutate over time. it seems like a more masculine type of information-hunting goes on in other boards, while the only investigating /cgl/ is halfway good at is about shit like Kate's kitten. even during the height of the AM scandal, we relied on a male lawyer for a lot of info.

i like the community and lack of porn or male ego on this board but i envy the informative humor other boards have.

>>9378275
is this bait? the other boards I go to are full of misinformation and memes based on fake news

>>9378275
We have spreadsheets and guides and tutorials for pretty much any "____ General" you can think of, what are you smoking?

>>9378275
>lack of porn or male ego
This is blue board is full of cosplay boobs

>>9378282
there is a lot we don't know and few people are interested in discovering it. instead of jumping at the chance to join or just root for the lolita upthread, people dismiss the idea. /cgl/ is not an agent of change or influence in the lolita world.

>>9378127
Why? Why can't people respond?

>>9378277
which boards? ck and and diy don't have this problem. also toy is useful for a lot of shit. as well as tg.

I gotta agree with >>9378275 because other boards have better stickies and better advice for their hobbies than cgl EVER does.

>>9378317
>/cgl/ is not an agent of change or influence in the lolita world.
THIS. THIS THIS FUCKING THIS.

90% of this board has it's head placed firmly up its ass. There are so many people here who claim to be the authority on someone else's life and information and if you disagree with them you get hounded and trolled into oblivion just so they can be right about some bullshit.

>>9378273
iktf anon.

My comm has slightly less than one meet a month, and I miss about half of them because of schedule conflicts. There's very little to actually do in lolita where I live - I've been to all the museums, it's not a nice enough place to go for a casual stroll in lolita, and I don't really want to pay to go to a café alone.

I really want to make more female friends, as I think then at least I might go on casual days out for shopping or walks in the park where it'd be nice to wear. Most of my friends are guys and they hate being out with me in lolita (two just dislike the fashion, two have genuine anxiety issues about being in public that make it uncomfortable to be with somebody who catches a lot of attention, one is paranoid it makes us look like a DDLG couple). I'm trying to join in more clubs and activities to meet new people, but I never wear lolita when meeting a new group because I don't want people to think I'm attention-seeking.

I've worn lolita alone a few times but I'd much rather just have a friend.

>>9378275
Fashion's subjective; there isn't that much to inform about that doesn't descend into opinionated bullshit. Pastebins, stickies and Google docs already exist for things like communities, resources, guides, how2taobao, etc.

>>9378364
>Fashion's subjective
that is not how most of cgl sees it.

Don't we have spreadsheets that haven't been updated too? I remember seeing complaints about that a couple months back, but I don't know if anything ever came of it.

I also took a long break from cgl only to come back and find the only thing that had really changed is somehow we got rid of the resident troll or they just started posting at a different time of day.

>>9378367
I wonder if it would be useful to have a spreadsheet thread where we can compile all the links, and check which ones are in need of updates, which topics have multiple spreadsheets that can be combined, or which topics are not yet covered?

>>9378381
Yeah, lets do that. While I was typing that out, all I could think was, well if I just bitch about it, it won't get done.
On the other hand, I'm not someone who can go through sites like others can and compile spreadsheets. But if we had a thread everyone could help.

guarantee there will be one reply talking about how we already have stuff or that OP should just do it themselves.

Anyone has the secrets that were deleted?

>>9378403
See >>9378351

>>9378128
I'm not the anon you're responding to but yeah, I do pay this much attention to what I buy at the grocery store. I'm interested in the details of who grew or made what I'm buying. Not from like a jerky I-only-buy-free-range perspective necessarily, I just like to know.

>>9378150
I agree. I mean I wouldn't wear the milky planet skirt to an OTT meet or ILD, but I'd wear it to a more casual meet for sure.

>>9378161
It's really cute so thanks for posting it anon

>>9378356
It's just board culture. It makes you look like you can't handle criticism, and it's a bad look.

>>9378381
I like this idea

>>9378381
We had that jfashion doc a while back and it vanished within a few threads. I don't even know how or why it disappeared, but the inconsistency of the upkeep or anons managing info docs might be part of it too.

>>9379442
>it vanished within a few threads
IIRC it was around for a year or so.

Why does lolibrary go down so fucking often?

Has anyone ever found boots similar to the AatP ones, but made of real leather? I don't mind shelling out money for brand, and I'm looking second hand, but I kind of want them to last/not crack. Any suggestions?

>>9379329
>It's just board culture.
Board culture can and has changed. This is just an excuse.

>>9379643
Because suffering builds character

>>9379740
The entire point of posting on an anonymous message board is that it's anonymous. If people want to respond to crit so bad they can write a blog post on their blogs.

>>9379755
this has literally been happening since /cgl/ existed. like everyone in the drawthread is essentially outing themselves as seagulls just by posting to request a doodle. outing yourself only makes you look bad if you behave badly imo

>>9379762
i really hate this idea of "she is a gull therefore she is bad!" like, they don't consider that not everybody wants to shit on everything. i'm sure there are a lot of gulls who make harmless posts or don't post at all besides draw threads and coord help threads or whatever, not all gulls are flaming thundercunts. though the ones who think gulls are bad are probably just too sensitive or kind of ita, wouldn't want to hang around them anyway

>>9378095
every time I scroll past that pic I get this my head (somehow I can't help thinking of rasputina as lolita music)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ObnDd-qAA

and to keep this post partially on topic, I would like to know this as well
>>9379682

>>9379811
Because even if you only post in the draw thread, you're still participating in a place where autism is used as a slur

>>9379811
My comm knows I post on CGL and nobody gives a shit. It's just another forum. I'm still a flaming thundercunt tho c:

>>9379846
and? if i walk outside and hear somebody say the world "nigger" am i all of a sudden not allowed to go outside anymore? what other people say isn't my problem, and people who think it is are idiots.

>>9378275
You're right, my lady brain is incapable of processing math. Guess I'll go be a secretary or something like it's 1950 again

>>9378259
Some people like to know out of curiosity. I fucking love knowing everything inside and out about my passions, so anon's suggestion is intriguing. I don't see why people are defensive about learning more about brands. Unless they expect to find something bad in the production process and don't want to be made to feel guilty or something, I guess, but that's a stupid reason to not do research.

>>9378362
pls tell me you live in the Netherlands

I've only worn Meta jsks, so I'm not sure how the shirring works in a corset on a meta op. This looks like enough to fit my fatass body, but can anyone else confirm how roomy these ops can be?

>>9379961
Not that anon, but I definitely feel the same and live in the Netherlands. Based on previous local comm threads I don't think the feeling is uncommon.

>>9380028
Why not lose weight to not have to worry about fitting into brand?

Meta is pretty roomy.

>>9379329
agreed
I am tired of answers of the like:
>Ok, thanks, but I thought I could do this and that
>Ok, thanks but my tights were in the mail so I couldn't wear them on time
>Ok, but I can't wear my own hair because I have a rare disease that is not kawaii
>Ok thanks but...
never ends

>>9379329
On an anonymous board with no required sign on the "culture" is going to contradict itself constantly and it cannot be avoided.

>>9380028

The only trouble I had with the Secret Eden OP is that it really isn't cut for my very average C-cup boobs. The jsks are pretty boob-unfriendly, too, but the sleeves on the OPs and the quarter shirring make it much more obvious on the OP.

Other than that, it's pretty roomy. I'm 95cm bust, 78cm waist.

This might be a dumb question but here goes. I'm considering getting the collar JSK of Melty Ribbon Chocolate, but I'm a bit worried about the different sizes. For a 94 cm bust, would it be best to get the larger or the smaller version? Lolibrary says the smaller one goes up to 100cm, but I'm afraid it would be tight with a blouse and everything. The only reason I don't just go for the bigger one is because the waist measurement is too big on that one.
Please help a newbie out.

>>9380141
100 cm max should be fine with a 94 cm bust.

>>9380105
Thank you! Yeah the jsk cuts for this release were lame so I'll just stop being chicken and try the OP out. Our sizes are similar so I don't think I should be afraid, I just wasn't sure. Hopefully I can work with the cut tho... I had the Meta Swan Lake OP a while ago and my boobs looked awful in it too.

Help: my dad thought he was being helpful by doing my laundry while I was away and machine washed one of my BTSSB headdresses. Any way I can bring it back from its sad wrinkled state?

>>9380149
Do you have a steamer?

>>9380141
Get the bigger one anon. I have a 94 cm bust and the M size of this JSK and it's really snug. If you tell me your waist measurement I can tell you if it will be too big.
>though good luck finding an L size of any colorway

>>9379961
>>9380047
We should have a friend finder thread on the main FB page or something. State your province/city and general interests and see if there are other lolitas in your immediate area to hang out with. I'd love to have casual local get togethers but I'm worried that if I make an event on the comm page it will get too many attendees and become unmanageable and no longer a relaxed casual thing.

>>9380201
It's really something you can only do after you know a couple of people already. A lot of people don't want to go a meet if they don't already know the organizer in some way, you wanna know who you are going to be stuck with all day. If you really want to know some people I recommend going out to eat after a bigger meet-up with people that you think seem nice. Most friend groups also don't all live in the same area, they are just willing to travel.

This was posted to my comms fb group.

>>9380221
Forgot to mention that our comm is in Texas.

>>9380219
But for that, we first have to wait for a bigger meetup that we can attend, and for me that probably won't be until next autumn. Isn't it possible to have a friend finder thread like those here on cgl except just for Dutch/Belgian peeps?

>>9380221
>no one to share coords with
>she's on instagram, tumblr , she is always reported on plussizelolitas tumblr and I think she posts on CoF?

Give me a break. I actually admired her and her weight loss from afar but this is just so cringe and clearly one of her friends. Sounds like this girl wants efame cause guess what, most of us also only share coords with our friends and family and instagram.

>>9380221
>made fun of by Hawaii lolis
Back when she was extremely morbidly obese she used to claim she was a brand model and the brands made custom pieces just for her fat ass. I'd make fun of her, too.

>>9380234
You can make one, but do expect a lot of other newbies and people that will just compliment the idea and not participate. Realistically you just need to meet one person who can invite to the more private meets, but I still think most people would want to meet someone in person first at another meet even though they talked online.

>>9380149

Which headdress and what does it look like now?

While it's wet, straighten it out as much as you can. GENTLY yank on any cotton lace to straighten them out.


Velvet roses are probably a lost cause, but if your colour is available you can replace them from here:
http://www.okadaya-shop.jp/1/products/list.php?category_id=535

You do need a steamer to get any remaining wrinkles out tho.

So I got the lost at sea op, and how have people been dealing with the zipper? I thought it was my size but apparently it's just the invisible zipper being a bitch.

So I got the lost in sea op, and how have people been dealing with the zipper? I thought it was my size but apparently it's just the invisible zipper being a bitch.

>>9380198
Thank you so much! My waist is about 72, so hopefully the L size won't be that big.
Size L seems harder to find, but at least now I know which one to look for

Do you think japanese lolitas hate us? Yahoo auctions and other second hand websites feel like 90% of the buyers are shopping services.

>>9378095
Getting dirt on the upside of your skirt is so rori. God forbid she hits a puddle.

>>9379329
I don't think people should out themselves solely for the fact that it draws even more attention, and once people believe you're lurking they're much more likely to say nastier shit to call your attention/get you to react.

>>9378358
Um sis, ck has a yuge meme problem and tons of people trolling with misinformation. Or threads that literally give no meaningful contribution to the board.
>"For me, it's the mcchicken. The best fast food sandwich."
>vegan threads
>fast food/food rank threads
>Jack memes
>Fazoli
>alcoholic threads
>hurr well done steak
>"is ______ a meme food?"
>tendie threads

I could go on. Very rarely do people post actual content or discuss recipes. Most of the board is shitposting.

>>9380297
Oh I forgot the best one
>NO GURLZ ALLOWED ON CK TITS OR GTFO XD XD XD

Fuck, at least on cgl we don't chase guys out. Most of the time we cater to them if they're new.

>>9380274
The waist would be a perfect fit for the M size, but your bust might get squashed.
I'm pretty sure the L will still fit you fine in the waist though.

>>9380073
>>9380028

Meta isn't that roomy depending on what cut you get, I've gotten rid of a few partially Shirred things that even though I was easily within the measurements looked bad and stretched because of how strong the shorting was

New AP shirring is much more forgiving

>>9380299
I think I will go with the L size and if it looks awful I'll just have to sell it. Hopefully the waist ties will help a bit. Thanks for all the help!

Could someone please help me identify this dress? I know it's baby, but I can't seem to find any results on lolibrary.

>>9380539
http://lolibrary.org/apparel/catherine-jsk

>>9380244
>>9380221
I remember she used to say she was the plus size model for Moitie and Metamorphose. Supposedly, she was wearing one of these custom made brurando dresses, and at either a con or a meetup she showed the tag to other lolitas and they laughed at her and ripped her dress. She was a fucking nutjob

>>9380221
Forget the drama, what in the ever-burning HELL is that wig?

>>9380608
>they laughed at her and ripped her dress.
Uhhh... Listen. I'm not trying to defend this girl and no I don't give a shit if it was a replica, but that sounds like physical harassment unless she wasn't actually wearing it. Even then, damaging someones property like that isn't okay either.

Laughing at someone is one thing but ripping their stuff up? Please tell me I'm reading this wrong or part of the story is missing.

I don't give a shit how bad someone looks or what they act like. There's itas in my comm and they act retarded as hell, but I'm not gonna rip up their clothes..

>>9380662
From what ive heard about this girl id wager to say the whole "THEY RIPPED MY DRESS" was just a convenient lie so that way she would have a reason to not show her "super special plus size custom brand dresses"

It probably never ever happened

>>9380298
Never experienced that as woman posting there.

>>9380297
Memes and misinformation are not always the same, they can cross paths, but I've gotten recipes and the like from ck and had intelligent discussion on there about automation actually...

Also there's usually a thread for cook alongs which is like, pure OC.
cgl has almost nothing like that.

>>9380672
Oh okay. I didn't realize it was just a story she was telling people.

>>9380608
Someone watched Cinderella a few too many times

>>9380028
Meta's roominess honestly varies wildly between cuts. Their fully shirred pieces can go up ridiculously high (like maybe 150 cm) but that's most fully shirred pieces. Their JSK's with full back panels of shirring probably can go to like 120-ish.

I'm just basing this off my own opinion of all the Meta pieces I've owned and their shiring, but going off of this specific picture, I'm gonna say it'll probably be like....max 105 MAYBE 110 cm if you're lucky. Maybe. This isn't a full panel of back shirring, and even then, certain shirring panels can trick you and look like they're way bigger than they truly are. My money is on 100-105 being the absolute max, but a bust of 95 or under being preferable.

If this is something they're going to be releasing or that was just released, you could probably just email them and ask. They're really nice and their customer service is great.

>>9380677
>cgl has almost nothing like that
The progress thread...

>>9380801
>talking about cosplay in lolita gen
I'm nitpicking the argument and yeah I said cgl but I meant this side of the board considering the thread we're in.

Also we're so far away from the original argument now. Who cares. Nothing is gonna get better here.

Can someone please check on Closet Child and make sure they're doing okay? Between the pictures and the weird post times it seems like somethings off...

>>9380146

The Secret Eden dress isn't so bad on me, but it's annoying enough that I've considered whether I want to hack off the sleeves and turn it into a jsk. I guess if the Grapy Fox looks odd on you you could try the same.

>>9380841
The coord help thread.

Sorry, I just think insofar as board cultures go there's better examples out there than ck to prove such

>>9380935
I mentioned them because I've been going there longer than here and they've always been more fun and way nicer to me haha. People actually get jokes there as opposed to here.

I can't tell you how many times I've had to use the joke over the head image.. I had to use it today. Like I'm sorry but most people here are bland or upset or both. It makes for not fun board culture.

>>9380240
this. Getting reblogged on tumblr is a step up from most lolita exposure, so I don't see what the problem is.

If I made lolita inspired patches, would you buy them?
Are there certain consitions or designs that would make you want one?

>>9380995
*conditions

I saw in another thread some lolitas talking about meetups, how they don't like not having any plans after eating at a cafe or something. What else do you guys like to do? I can't imagine you guys go-karting or whatever in those nice dresses.

>>9380995
Are you thinking embroidery patches or fabric? I wouldn't mind seeing some punk/goth looking lolita patches.

>>9381016
I have the following options that I'm kicking around: embroidered, vinyl, printed cloth, wood.

>>9380995

Isn't the accessories market mostly for ready-made stuff? I guess raw patches could work if you go ahead and show how they can be attached to plain hoodies, parkas, berets, totebags, baby tees and so on so that people get their own idea of what to use them for.

You could also offer the option of ordering them as pins or rosettes ready-to-wear, I guess.

>>9381021
I'd be into it if it was stuff that goes with more casual pastel styles and/or removable... not ironing anything onto brand.

>>9381043
I was about to be stupid and totally misunderstand what you meant by ready made, the rosette idea isn't a bad one at all if you don't mind me stealing it. Rosette ribbons with velcro loop, and a pin on the back so no modifications are needed to wear them with burando, different color rosettes for one patch or one rosette for a dozen patches...

Been a long time since I put my mind in lolita.
Wtf happened to lolibrary?

>>9381007
>go-karting or whatever in those nice dresses.
I have done this but I would never suggest it for a meet-up, my comm is full of conlita's who don't even want to walk for more than 4 minutes because they're overprotective of their shoes.

>>9380234
It would be cool to have a friending meme on facebook

>>9380277
They hate dealing with SS companies and overseas shipping

>>9380277
What would make you think that?

>>9381055

Take it, no worries.

I actually really like the idea of lolita patches, I think it'd be cool to be able to sew on a lolita patch onto a normal, cheap, store-bought hoodie or t-shirt and it becomes something I can wear for casual lolita. I don't know how many lolitas would be up for this idea, though, especially given the burandos already make their own t-shirts and hoodies with their own embroidered logos.

>>9379643
>>9381056
idk but i'm getting pretty peeved that literally every time i try going to lolibrary it's fucking down
and i even try multiple times a day sometimes so this is getting ridiculous

>>9378128
I'm mostly interested in this because of the recent Haenuli shitstorm and some really interesting perspective I saw posted by a lolita with econ expertise in btb about how some legal design replicas are made and distributed.

a lot of lolitas assume foul play and ill intention first before considering that we are just really ignorant of the manufacturing and contract processes between brands and factories/other suppliers.

>>9381056
>>9381109
If anyone of you cared to check their Facebook, you'd know they announced problems and downtimes.

>>9381114
>"problems and downtimes"
>it's down every other fucking day if not every other hour
there's "problems and downtimes" and then it being half-dead/unmaintained

>>9381086
My comm has a bunch of girls who wear ratty old sneakers to walk the five minutes from the train station to the meetup location and then only put their Bodyline shoes on when they're inside the cafe. Then when it was time to go home they put their Bodyline shoes back into the bags they brought for that express purpose and put the ratty sneakers back on to walk back to the station. It's wasn't even raining or snowing or anything like that and the road was nicely paved the whole way with zero incline. I don't understand...

>>9381114
Oh come on, it's been like this for months

>>9381123
Some of them do this too in my comm, and 90% of the time it's a supermarket bag

>>9381127
How kawaii.

>>9380662
Dude... she was fucking lying about the whole thing. You think somebody would really rip up a girl's custom whale-sized Moitie dress handmade by Manasama himself?

>>9381121
>>9381125
It was bad lately, but their current problems are due to testing.
Also, you are not entitled to lolibrary, sucks that we rely on it that much. In the end there is still hhe google cache trick.

>>9381007
In my comm, we have meets where we go to Museums and the like. That is always pretty nice and easily to do in the clothes.

>>9380221
This girl is also the one who pushed Rosy night's masquerade to it's limit and pops up on IG all the time, she's not lacking in attention or at least trying to get attention

>>9381157
Actually a lot of people contribute to lolibrary

>>9381007
Let me think. I've done museum meetup, shopping trips (antique shops especially), theater too, there's one coming up for a marionette show) also been to a couple lolita swapmeets, which were kind of like a meetup since there was food as well. I really enjoyed the swapmmet since I got to try on stuff in person and inspect the stuff before buying, not to mention the money was going to other girls in the comm.

Is anyone else salty that you have to purchase one of the more expensive tiers to go to the Rufflecon tea party this year?

How do you deal with people on laceMarket that don't leave you a feedback? I might have bought 3 to 4 things this year, left feedback for all of them, but received none.

>>9381219
There's nothing you can do other than send a polite message asking for feedback.

I usually don't leave feedback until someone gives it to me first.

>>9381219
I never leave feedback unless that person has none or very little. I never ask or expect it either. I don't care if I/you have 20+ or 200+.

>>9381219
I mostly sell and rarely buy on Lacemarket, but as a seller, I add a note to the package thanking them for their purchase and asking for feedback, with a promise that I'll reciprocate. I always wait until they've left feedback to leave my own, since I want to make sure there doesn't end up being issues.
If you're the buyer, I think sending a message saying "I received the package and left you positive feedback! Can you do the same for me?" is absolutely acceptable, especially since Lacemarket doesn't tell you when you get new feedback. After that, it's tough luck if you don't get any in return, unfortunately.

>>9380300
>>9380712
Yeah this is why I used the word roomy. I'm sure it can stretch but I don't want to look like a cased sausage. But I did lose some weight this year and am under 100cm for sure so I'm feeling optimistic! Thank you guys for your input. I've definitely seen that with Meta's shirring back when I was much fatter, like it can stretch but it warps as well. I'll try emailing them and see how that goes!

>>9380913
Oops, I didn't see your post earlier anon. Yeah, I might do that, I don't like the cuts of the other jsks and I probably won't ever sell this dress (dd material). Good luck with sweet eden!

>>9381222
>>9381237
>>9381266
Thank you! As a buyer (with less than 3 feedbacks on my account...), I'll try doing as anon suggested and leaving a message about the arrival of the items and the positive feedback left. Hope it works!

>>9380255
It's one of the Spin Doll headdresses without ladder lace. It's all black, so luckily no color damage over all. I've managed to get it less scrunched up, but the lace is curled in on itself. Would a steamer fix the lace?

>>9381219
I usually leave feedback after the item arrives, and then send them a message letting them know that the item arrived, and that I left them positive feedback. Usually something like this is what I say, "Hello! I just wanted to let you know that x arrived. I have left you a positive feedback. Thanks for a smooth transaction!"

>>9381304
A steamer will help but you'll have to pull the lace taut by hand to straighten it out.

>>9379822
>somehow I can't help thinking of rasputina as lolita music
SAME.

>tfw seeing Rasputina at RuffleCon makes all other cons pale in comparison

>>9380677
>Memes and misinformation are not always the same, they can cross paths
this.

meme magic on other boards is so much fun. i fucking bought a meme drink so i could laugh along with the SIPBOYS at /fit/. /cgl/ is a better board than most (imo) but it's not as fun as some of the boards usually are.

as for compiling docs and spreadsheets, i want to mention that those rely on anon(s) to host. i can try to convert some of the basic info into image macros if people get a spreadsheet thread going, it's a lot quicker to share that way (even if it runs the risk of perpetuating outdated info due to the static nature of images, the onus would just be on us to make updated ones)

>>9380902
newfag staff, i think. they are driving me batty.

>>9380988
>most people here are bland or upset or both. It makes for not fun board culture
This is too close to home. We're not the worst when it comes to taking everything too seriously, but even super-serious boards have a lot of self-mocking humor that shows up in reaction images and joke threads.

We have the ita dressup thread, though, which is magical. Adding the draw thread element to it cracked me up. I need to get off my ass and post in it again, maybe some awful drawings are needed...

>>9381107
>especially given the burandos already make their own t-shirts and hoodies with their own embroidered logos
A lot of us waffle on buying those, since they cost a lot and aren't as one-size-fits-most as other brand releases. Also, iron-on patches would be awesome to iron or sew onto jeans, tote bags, and other normal things to help lolify them.

I would be all over a black bat silhouette with "EGL" embroidered into it. Just saying.

>>9381370
the funny thing is that /cgl/ used to be one of the boards with the most personality.
even though the raids from /r9k/ or /fit/ could get tiresome, it prompted an interesting form of cross-board chan culture at the time. plus, I feel at that time we had a steady stream of fresh content/responses, whereas it's a lot slower nowadays.
after moot's crackdown on the drama, it drove off a lot of the regulars. i thought i'd stick it out, but it got frustrating when we weren't allowed to have any off-topic threads. if it wasn't strictly related to cosplay or j-fashion (or if it derailed too much), it got nuked. /cgl/ became kind of boring in comparison to its heyday.

>>9381303
how are you still proudly displaying your mistake, CringeThread-chan

is this the female equivalent to a grown ass man dressing up in diapers and a pacifier wanting to be called baby?

>>9381377
>after moot's crackdown on the drama, it drove off a lot of the regulars.
that sucks because i took a break from the board because the drama was so fucking tiresome and unfun. i came back after moot's anti-drama rules and was pleased. i think that the pre-drama-takeover board was most active, though; that was when a lot of our most-reposted memes were born, like Derpy-chan and the weeaboo horror stories that spawned copycats and comics and even a potential board-tan.

maybe i'm mixing the chronology up, though. i just really miss lolitas making Derpy prints and dresses, like how insane was it that /cgl/ was a collaborative parody-based indie designer?

>>9378275
i think the problem is that so many resources become out of date. like someone did a chronology of AP releases and the 'evolution' of their designs but it only goes up until 2009. or a lot of the resources that we used to be able to point to on LJ feature brands or stores that are no longer in existence. j-fashion just moves pretty fast compared to the other hobby boards, i think. if you're on the convention side of things, it probably is even more difficult to track information.

>>9381383

>>9381123
Bodyline shoes scuff really easily, though...I have a white pair that I wore out to a club, I wasn't even dancing or anything, just walking around for a few hours, and when I got home they had these big black marks all over the toe and heel.

>>9381093
they're shipping domestically though if it's done through an SS
are shopping services quite rude in dealing with the people they buy from? I don't really see what the issue would be, apart from precious burando leaving the country of course

>>9381378
Oops, thank you! I guess this is the second time you alert me of this and I didn't notice.

>>9381384
yeah, even now if you check out the meme thread, most of the board screencaps were from a time when we still regularly interacted with the other boards. Even though it led to a lot of 'em trying to bait us, it was fun. I'm still convinced that /cgl/ has/had some of the craftiest anons on the boards when it comes to DIY projects.
and stuff like the Aidoru contest or Curiousbear's contests, that was a neat way to participate in the board more actively than just 'i am here to tell you whether i like the newest AP release or not'. At times, it almost felt like /cgl/ had a genuine sense of camaraderie.
maybe i'm just seeing things through the rose-tinted glasses of nostalgia, though. the current /cgl/ just seems a lot more dour than before.

>>9381388
>j-fashion just moves pretty fast compared to the other hobby boards, i think.
/tv/ is a terrible board but they crank out inage macros, verticals, and more about episodes of a show that are currently still airing (like, content gets produced/added to before the new episode is even finished). /a/ does that too. /lit/ used to have infographics marked by year i think.

>>9381403
i agree with you, so if you are wearing nostalgia goggles so am i.

It's pretty sad how y'all are complaining about lack of content and funnyness

Literally nothing is keeping you from posting content or something funny

But I guess the other boards are superior because there are so many women here and the mods sometimes delete things

>>9381007
Post-meet hangouts are pretty common. For instance, following the last meet some went to someone's house and watched k-dramas. A bunch went to a macaron cafe. My group went out for dinner.

>>9381418
the off-topic thread were the ones that most often generated the best or most interesting content, and got pruned the most swiftly following change of power. so it seems like a relevant complaint.
>other boards are superior because there are so many women here
now you just sound like a robot.
also if you'd actually been there at the time, you would know that having a majority-female board was actually kind of an asset.

>>9381439
That was sarcasm, this entire discussion started with
>i wish /cgl/ wasn't so feminine

>>9381217
Kind of, but it also makes sense as they had huge lines and crowding issues. Separating tiers more to give people priority is likely due to cut down on that. And you can't expect people to pay more and not get a tea party ticket.

Anyone else tired of replicas showing up in CoFs posts?

The OP on the right is just shit.

>>9381478
It's a really a perfect example of why replicas are shit.

>>9381478
It's insulting and I can't understand why it's allowed. It also looks so ugly and ridiculous, did she think no one would notice? She spent money on that ugly dress?

>>9381388
Oh hey. I just made one that goes back to 2010 on my blog. I'll have to look the older one up.

>>9381529
here you go

>>9381529
also would you mind providing your version or a link to it? i'd be interested in looking at the update. thank you!

>>9381551
>>9381556
Thanks! Looks like I'll need to update it a bit with rerelease information though.
Here's mine: 2010-2017

>>9381557
Whoops. Here's the link.

>http://fuwa-fuwa-fashion.blogspot.com/2017/03/angelic-pretty-2010-2017-print-release.html?m=1

>>9381404
>>9381388

People stop updating because they move on to other things. It isn't jfashion that moves fast, it's the turnover of the girls who are engaged in them. Then they either stop updating or delete their content/google doc/pastebin because they're done with that.

cgl has created a lot of content -- the lolita handbook on tumblr, taobao spreadsheets, some of the jfashions have their own copypasta thread starter, hime haircut guide, there's probably a lot more that I'm not remembering.

The info in our sticky is on the mods/janitors. It was outdated the day it went up, cgl used to have threads that massively bitched about how sucky it was and the mods/janitors plain don't give a fuck. It's only gotten worse now because the sticky only references cos and egl, but cgl itself encompasses several alt jfashions, not just cosplay and lolita.


>>9381405
>>9381403


Nah. a quick trip down the meme thread alone will tell you the real story. The legendary resin biscuit (and the french fry madonna crown sequel), Franche Lippee girl, Derpy-chan are all cgl exclusives. A good deal of the other memes are straight up from btb/secrets while another heavy chunk comes from cgl artists, the same ones that post about vending in our AA threads -- the cgl card in particular is from an artist who tripfags. Maybe you can point out what cross-boarding content is actually good, I'm not seeing much of it.

cgl still has crafty anons. The resin thread was hopping earlier this year until some witch-hunting anon scared posters away.

I'll give you that it's quiet right now, but then we just had some thirsty dudes start up an ahegao selfies thread last week, and this week they're trying to request selfies in some sex costume, so I can see how some girls would get fed up and simply leave. Wait til they're done and gone, girls will start posting again.

>>9381567
i think i expressed that badly. i didn't mean that the cross-board posters were responsible for our memes, but that we had our highest traffic back in the days when /cgl/ wasn't quite so cloistered and offtopic discussions threads (whether by visitors or otherwise) weren't immediately canned. At least some percentage of that higher level of activity was shitposting, but it made people stick around longer and come back more frequently because the board felt more lively.

>>9381219
You left your trip on

Whose the cringe now?

Dry cleaning costs a lot where I live. What are some alternatives?

>>9381680
Depends on the garment in question. I handwash most of my brand in lukewarm water and it's perfectly fine, but I can't guarantee that works for everything.

>>9381680
A lot of fabrics can be hand washed cold with mild detergent and dried flat, but it really depends on what you're washing. If you have notorious bleeder prints you might have to bite the bullet or resort to spot cleaning as best you can.

>>9381680
Perhaps a steam garment cleaner?

>>9381551
So sad that the last applique was around 2008..

I don't think they even d/o embroidery designs on dresses now, do they?

>>9381418
i'm busy lately but i keep at least one unusual OC-generating thread of mine alive at all times. i created a bunch of reaction images nobody ever used so i stopped but have some pics saved to throw text on shortly. it is usually the same few anons churning out OC, and it would not surprise me if the gulls i have been commiserating with ITT are also one of the few regular content generators for the board.

most of /cgl/ is passive and, like that other anon said, dour.

>>9381551
this is fantastic

>>9381662
>calling a name a "trip"
newfag pls

>not reading the responses to see someone else already addressed the issue and it was resolved
newfag kudasai

I want to do some detail videos of some of my dresses. Would this be of interest?

>>9381742
If you have a nice collection to show (doesn't matter if it's prints or solids, people like both) and a good camera for it, why not? Go for it.

>>9381753
I'm not sure what should be included in the videos. I remember a few people have done this before, does anyone have links or names of their channels?

>>9381781
if you just look up something like 'lolita wardrobe post' on youtube you should find some stuff, those videos show details and talk about the dresses

Guys - if you had to decide without knowing the guests list, would you choose Rufflecon or PMX?
FYI - I'm a classic lolita.

>>9381786
Rufflecon will likely have triple fortune again. Maybe the guests of last year if they made enough profit. They always have lots of indie designers though so it depends what you're after.

>>9381786
PMX is dead, the fashion department that made it great all left.

>>9381277
Don't be too optimistic, I have a 90cm bust and 69 cm waist and find myself too big to wear partially Shirred meta without it looking over stuffed. I prefer their unshirred stuff because of this. I know a huge fatty in my comm who wears their full shirring pieces and it looks terrible, those are for skinny girls only. Anyone with any bust will look like a sausage in it

>>9381478
Fucking saved as a perfect example of replica vs real.

>>9379961
Sorry anon, UK here.

>>9381383
Is this post the equivalent of someone shitting in a keyboard?

I'm scared, I was checking my-lolita-dress page on fb and they are releasing a lot of replicas, most of them from Baby, I saw earlier in my feedback that a seller on LaceMarket was banned because she was selling usakumya bags that were replica, when will this nightmare end ?

Sort of unrelated I'm wondering if the girl that works for my-lolita-dress bought a dress through Lacemarket to send it to China to manufacture the replicas that MLD is offering.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid. but now I guess I'll only rely on Japanese sites like ClosetChild or Wunderwelt.

>>9381551
Still blows my mind how much money AP could make if they rereleased Puppet Circus.

>>9381375
Now, is that a chibi bat, or a nosferatu bat to try to appeal to elder goths?

>>9381648

We're seeing things differently, I suppose. I know I kept coming back for the actual lolita content -- people like HSP, collage anon, the person who made cute notebooks, that girl who made the Unicorn valley dress, and whoever was dumping the newest GLB scans and fastest new releases leaks. When they became inactive, or moved on, quite a lot of interesting content left with them. The lolitaupdates facebook in turn is now the first place to check for new releases, not cgl. We had HBJ for awhile, but then she got chased out for plagiarism as well (not condoning it, but she did keep threads alive so she could push her products).

I don't have a lot of fond memories of actual crosssboard threads anyhow. The fit threads were only good the first year and become DYL central after that. The winterball was only fun the one year we had good artists draw free art for it, the next year people shat up the threads whining we didn't go with their favorite board.

I guess it's just our different views or something, I remember the actual lolita content as being more interesting, while crosssboard content had a tendency to go to shit fairly fast.

>>9382085
Both if possible. Kawaii and Goff

>>9382080
mld states on their site when it's a replica. and for western sellers, if you don't trust it, don't buy it.

>>9382080
mld has been selling replicas for quite some time... some of the replicas they've been selling have been there since lolita got really popular, like dream of lolita. But anyways, I can't say if your fear is unfounded. However, if you don't want to support replicas, don't buy from her since she obviously profits from selling them (and thus, in turn, you are also supporting the replica market). Wunderwelt seems like it's growing greatly so I'd stick with them too. Takoyakico is also another secondhand place to buy from.

>>9380277

It's more likely the personal sellers moved to the Fril or Mercari platform because it's easier to use.

A lot of buyers still browse yja though, so it makes sense that there's still a lot of resellers who take the extra time to make postings on there.

>>9382177
I don't remember who HSP or HBJ is, can someone share deets?

Adding on to this too, I also think it stems from the fact that people are hesistant to contribute to thingss directly onto cgl nowadays. Most people just go straight to facebook/other social media anyways since it's an easier way to share information now. The bad thing is, it also limits who can see that depending on privacy/group settings whereas cgl is a public platform.

>>9380221
>>9380224
The girl who posted it doesn't even wear lolita. She's from Hawaii and spends all of her time trying to cross contaminate Texas with drama honestly.

Urge Tumblr has blocked the word Lolita from their search, it just turns up nothing. I'm done, not even Lolita fashion or classical Lolita works. Thanks Nabanorvorkgonfuckoff

>>9382408
False alarm "lolitafashion" works god bless

>>9378275
Males are more likely to be autistic.

Does anyone else get really physically tired while wearing lolita? I don't do OTT, no heavy things to carry, but it wears me out somehow... I just feel like taking a nap after half a day of wearing it. Why is this happening?

>>9381786
RuffleCon. Even if PMX had exactly the same guests, RuffleCon's attendees are a big part of what it makes it enjoyable for me. It is such a clean, un-smelly, aesthetically pleasing membership. Plus, if American Duchess returns, sign me up for every single one of their panels.

>>9382427
Doctors are less likely to diagnose females with autism. Males may be over-represented due to institution-wide discrimination.

>>9382408
"lolita fashion" with spaces works, unfortunately you just have to turn off safesearch

why does ddlg ruin everything i love

>>9382447
i do but i also have health issues so that probably ties into it? halfway into the day i feel like i'm going to faint, it's physically taxing for me to walk about in heels and that many layers.

>tfw no burando fainting couch
there are fancy brand fans though, i might need to invest in one

>>9382447
Yep every meet up, especially if I forget to drink water. You need it even more in all those layers, make sure you're not just dehydrated!

>>9380608
People say stupid shit when they're young. A friend of mine tried to convince me his mum owned a model agency and he was a top famous model. He really seemed to believe his own lies. He even went on saying I could model couture. Lot of nonsense.

>>9382567
Plus the possibility that it manifests differently in girls, as some research is suggesting.

>>9382612
The difference is she's not young anymore and she's still making up lies.

Thinking about it, we're really weird.
Lolita fashion is expensive,clothes that can get easily ruined,uncomfortable/not super comfy and not practical,it attracts a lot of attention,it's hell to wear in hot weather,...
The only thing that keeps us wearing it is that we like it. Sometimes I do wonder if we aren't somewhat masochist?

>>9382617
I was a weird kid so my mom took me to an autism specialist. He said autistic boys usually get into trains or programming, but almost all the girls get into anime.

>>9382408
This was years ago

>>9382635
Lolita is not comparable to every day clothing, it's more of an special occasion clothing which is usally more price-y and gets worn to occasions, which aren't too risky (compared to cleaning your house or to work).
There are many normal people who spend a decent amount of cash on a nice gown or designer bag, so I don't see a difference? Also, it's mostly good quality that will last you a while and it can be comfy if everything fits you well.

best place now to get rhs? Is it even possible to get them sooner than a month now?

>>9382392

HSP is Helpful Shopper Person. Shared scans of GLB and previews of upcoming releases. She said something about a shopping service, but I missed whether she clarified which shopping service she was.

HBJ is Hello Bones Jones. She was sharing artwork and some kind of flower girls pins. At one point she bought advertisement on cgl, which I thought was kinda nice way of supporting the forum. Next thing I know some anons said she had copied some kind of cat artwork from another artist. The comments got meaner and meaner until she kind of faded off (and so did the cgl banners).

There's some kind of stigma to seeking fame via cgl, apparently, which you can sort of see with the backlash some of our tripfags face. iirc even Curiousbear had to deal with angry anons at some point, although I don't remember why. (Curiousbear ran some kind of contest and gave away Korean skincare samples to the winners. I can't really remember whether it's angry anons who drove her off the board or not, if that makes you feel better that cgl didn't drive off all the interesting people -- most of them just move on to other things, or simply get bored and forget to come back).

So anyway, e-fame via cgl tends to lead to backlash or something. Which I guess makes people prefer to use facebook or whatever (and then quietly post themselves here and there for added exposure, apparently).

The got a normie friend who is super sweet and always comments on my clothes.
I am tempted to getting her into Lolita, but haven't gathered enough balls to drop the Lolita bomb, just called it neo Victorian fashion
She probably does not have any knowledge of Japanese fashion, anime, or anything. She is super normie
Should I try to convert her into the frilly cult? How to proceed without seeming pushy or creepy?

>>9382784
Have her try on some of your wardrobe and make a cute coord for her? Dress up and go for tea together?

>>9382750
HBJ first made animal pins very similar to Pepfox's Tiny Companions, then a few months later completely overhauled her art style to look very close to the Korean artist/brand Jetoy Choo Choo. I would love to support indie brands and especially other seagulls but this shit was way too shady to ignore.

>>9382790

>>9382791
>>9382790

Basically it's saying "I'd rather take a shortcut, I'd rather not invest the time and patience it takes to hone a personal style and make something unique." Which kinda fucks yourself over in the end, because where do you go once you've copied someone else's style? What's the next big thing you're going to do when you have nothing to personally draw from? You're stuck copying other people's work until you get your shit together and put in the hard work.

And it's fine if you draw influence, but personal style will always be an amalgamation of artists you admire in combination with your own perception of the world. By that you need to do the hard work of looking at an actual cat and interpreting it yourself, or look at roses, or what does a crown actually look like? And what does it look like if I try using watercolor compared to gouache or digital? Otherwise it's a game of telephone.

>>9382750
HBJ didn't get chased off because she was "seeking efame through cgl", she got roasted because she plagiarized other artists and filled an entire Lolita General with cringy self defense.

>>9382807
She had some flower-head girls IIRC that were original and cute, but I guess those weren't selling well enough so she decided she'd rather leech off someone else who'd already proved to be successful. Advertising her ripoffs on /cgl/, a board familiar with Jetoy and not known for its tolerance of replicas, was incredibly dumb.

>>9382813

Ah, sorry, should have worded >>9382750 clearer, or maybe made a divider. The comment I responded was in order of HSP, HBJ and then people rather post elsewhere. So I spent a paragraph each on HSP and HBJ and then talked about posting elsewhere, also in order.

Basically everything after that one paragraph about HBJ relates to why (I think) people would rather post to facebook than try and post too much stuff on here. It has nothing to do with HBJ at all -- I'm aware of what she did, though I didn't catch on the plagiarism until it really blew up.

I have a lolita survey if gulls would be so kind as to take it! about 40 questions long, capping the survey at 100. I appreciate you guys.

>https://surveyplanet.com/58bf52a774fe2053c67ac231

>>9382845
Are you doing a family feud panel?

>>9382750
CB got driven off specifically because of the moot crackdown
Themed costume contests weren't j-fashion enough, apparently

>>9382447
Yes.
I don't think it's a physical thing, it feels more like I'm mentally exhausted after dealing with all of the (often unconscious) stress of being looked at in public all the time, adjusting my outfit and worrying about spilling stuff on my dress.
And there's probably a lot more stuff I'm overlooking that play a part in what goes through a lolita's mind during a day of wearing frills.
I feel like this drain only lessens when I'm wearing lolita daily and more casually.

Need some opinions. I have a nice pair of Bodyline's rose boots that I've been wanting to coord but I don't see boots with lolita much outside of winter.

Should I go for heels or can boots with lolita in a sweet style be pulled off? Will also take inspo if anyone has any.

Who wants a nurse outfit?

http://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/n183944014

>>9382447
It's almost like someone's been poking at you all day, everything rubbing against your skin, elastic bands squeezing, tights, tailored clothing, heels or flats, worrying you look okay, all of that gets overwhelming after a while.

>>9382947
I think you might need to get a bigger size

>>9382642
That's absurd and he should hand in his license

>>9382690
It is comparable to everyday clothing tough? Lots of lolita have it as their normal clothing style, you just have to learn which brands fit you well and don't make you uncomfortable.

>>9382711
You didn't mention a budget so.. Vivienne Westwood.

>>9382447
It's also for that I prefer to wear other frilly jfashion, at least I can look cute but confy. My feet suffer with most women shoes especially lolita shoes, I hate tight waistbands, layers of clothing and headbands. Probably my IBS doesn't allow me to wear a typical lolita outfit unless I wear casual lolita with a confortable skirt/salo and cutsews, yes I find some lolita blouses a bit unconfortable and I hate delicate fabrics for my daily clothing.

>>9382845
>40 questions

>>9382885
No, it's because of things going on in her life.
>Source: I met up with her in Korea.

Has anybody bought the RHS from Glitzywonderland? They're $99, made to order, and have the option for materials between pleather, patent leather, and flannel.

>>9382987
Vivienne Westwood ships fast and smells good

>>9383013
They're nice, but I would actually prefer a platform that's not so tall.

>>9382970
It was 34 my bad, some were omitted

Does anyone know if the mold issue with the hotel for Rufflecon got resolved?

>>9382875
maybe

>>9383088
I've been trying to investigate myself and I've been looking at hotel reviews all over. None of them mention a mold issue as of late save for one person on yelp that found mold on a cot they had brought in for them by the hotel staff. That report was around the time of the rufflecon troubles. Other than that there's been nothing from what I've been reading (and I've read 3 sites now) so I'd like to think that's a good sign.

>>9383013
>smells good

the shit I like to hear

>>9382973
I remember her saying itt that she'd been warned that the conversations in her threads were getting too OT
She never did ship out the prizes for the Angel/Demon contest so maybe it's for the best. I talked to her a on tumblr for a while and was always curious what happened after she went AWOL, just assumed it was stress-induced.

>>9383124
I'm glad to hear that!
I really want to take my friend with me but she has serious health issues and the mold thing is kind of big concern. I wish they would have made some kind if follow up statement about it.

>>9382845
did it. what's it for, anon?

>>9383159
The biggest advice I can give is that you should check your room asap just in case. From individual reports I collected from con goers, the mold originated in the bathroom and was on the shower curtains then spread outwards. I'll post in here if I do ever come across something alarming but I would proceed with optimistic caution.

Anyone petite sized here can help about Innocent World sizing? I'm always on market searching about some pieces, but they always seem to be so large, specially for Japanese girls! Last one I searched was bust around 94cm and waist at 75cm. How do you manage to wear that? Is it common to make alterations in these pieces?

>>9383211
Even the larger size pieces are weird, I've had alterations made in the past to take in the bust. My guess is they're trying to appeal to both markets, only to cause wonky sizing? What year are the pieces you're interested in?

>>9383213
I have pieces from 2007 and some of the latest stained glasses releases in my mind, but I always get discouraged at their "M size"... Since I do not own anything from them yet, I was kinda confused with these measurements.

>>9383211
The one IW piece I have is partial shirred and much smaller than that (60-68 cm waist, 2009). I am not sure if they changed the size or if their current listed measurement is unrealistic.

>>9383217
If you really like the piece enough I would just have it altered, it shouldn't cost too much.

>>9383211
I have 78cm of bust and a small waist and it's just impossible to fit their releases elegantly. My suggestion is that, if you really want to use anything from them,just get a professional seamstress and provide some adjustments.

>>9383224
Oh, this gives me some hope, thank you! I'll ask the seller about the real measurements and check if they match with the one in Lolibrary.

Thanks!

>>9383225
>>9383229
I'm guessing this might be my only choice for IW if the measurements prove to be right... thank you!

>>9383131
No, I was the anon that won angel by default and I picked up the prize when I visited her in Korea. I just happened to be sent there for work at the time. She did say she was going to send out the demon prize, but I can't say for sure if she was able. She just has a lot going on in her life.

what do you gulls think of sleepover meetups? like spend the night watching movies and eating cake and cookies and playing board games, i think it could be fun if youre good enough friends with the girls in ur comm.
Although i imagine a packed bathroom to remove makeup and wigs and to shower, would it be horrible?

>>9383162
anon >>9382875 hit the nail on the head, it's for a panel at an upcoming con.

>>9382947
what anon said is basically how I feel about it. >Wig's really get on my nerves after 2 hours, headache
>my petticoat digs into my waist
>It's hard to drive, stresses me out, what if I get side swiped because I couldn't see past wig
>the combo of contacts/eyelashes is really uncomfortable gives me a headache
>having restricted movement, having to sit really still hurts my back and shoulders
>shoes are usually uncomfortable in one way or another

>>9382965
I don't think lolita is comparable to my normie clothing

>>9383278
Considering 80% of lolitas are gay; sounds pretty gay.

>>9383278
Why not just shower at the same time?

>>9383278
I would love to do this, but like in a going out on the town to a classy bar or a show then coming back and crashing kind of way

>>9383278
I once made a thread about having this kind of meet up one day. Like a huge sleep over somewhere with all kinds of sleep over activities and it was deleted. No idea why. Not sure what rule I was breaking or if at the time a bunch of posters hated the idea.

>>9383278
>tfw you will never play Talisman or Munchkin or D&D with a bunch of cool lolitas
Why live?

>>9383162
anon >>9382875 hit the nail on the head, it's for a panel at an upcoming con.

>>9382947
what anon said is basically how I feel about it.

>Wig's really get on my nerves after 2 hours, headache
>my petticoat digs into my waist
>It's hard to drive, stresses me out, what if I get side swiped because I couldn't see past wig
>the combo of contacts/eyelashes is really uncomfortable gives me a headache
>having restricted movement, having to sit really still hurts my back and shoulders
>shoes are usually uncomfortable in one way or another

>>9382965
I don't think lolita is comparable to my normie clothing

>>9383309
you don't have to wear both contacts and a wig. you probably look ridiculous. thanks for making lolita a costume.

>>9383307
You probably live 1000 miles away from me but know that out there is another lolita who wishes she could play all those with someone else too

>>9383296
Don't wear wig or contacts then, I don't get why people think this is a must.

>>9383303
I'm digging this idea.

>>9383278
It's a good idea but I think I would only go for it I get along with all the girls in the comm and there are no creepy weabos to worry about

>>9378275
Guys just have a special type of autism, have you seen http://www.buyfags.moe or /jp/s onahole guide http://pastebin.com/hwhGL66a?

>>9383175
it was also spotted in the vents in the bathrooms, and above the AC units by the windows, so check there. photograph anything you find.

you should always do a room check when you first arrive to a hotel, before unpacking, to look for bedbugs, so adding a mold check to a routine bedbug check should not take much extra time.

>>9383320
...okay not sure where to start with this, what do contacts have to with wearing a wig? Have you ever worn lolita?

I have pretty lousy eyesight so it's either normie glasses that clash with my coordinate, or my prescription contacts.

>>9383305
sometimes innocent posts get misconstrued as fetish threads in disguise. if enough people report the mods will probably see it that way too.

>t. anon who started a thread about twirling/spinning in lolita and was mistaken for a sissy by multiple gulls

>>9383307
>mfw i was planning a DnD night where you make a coord based on your character
>campaign would even be Lolita Inspired
>had almost everything written up
>no one likes DnD in my comm
why live?

>>9383352
assumed you meant circle lenses like cosplayers wear, apologies

>>9383356
Yeah, all I could think was that it was reported by enough people and that a good chunk of cgl thought it was a fucking awful idea... but here it is again.

>>9383372
It's okay, I've been embracing natural hair/glasses lately anyway because it's just so high maintanence, I just take glasses off for photos.

Cross post from another thread but I saw a girl in lolita in central Oxford yesterday morning. If you're here, you looked really cute!

>>9383381
i dont think its horrible enough to be reported, but i wouldnt mind some discussion. Why is it a terrible idea? its just girls having a sleepover and having fun.

>>9383441
Dude I don't know why it got reported. No one said. It seemed like it was going well in the lolita gen so I made a topic and I guess no one wanted that? Some people did say it was creepy but I didn't understand why.

I guess there's kind of an age play angle that people probably fixated on and I didn't see because of the whole, hey we're trying to keep that "i want to be a princess!" feeling alive from childhood that so many of us had. And sleepovers are meant for when you're young and someone's parents say everyone can come over and have snacks and stay up late talking and everyone lays out sleeping bags and the like.

I guess it's kind of chilidsh but fuck my nostalgia wanting that again. It's fun for fucks sake.

>>9383349
I-I'd be interested in a pastebin exclusively revolving around dildos. W-why can't we have one of these?

>>9383211
one way to go about your search is to look for only things with corset lacing in the back, that way you can tighten if necessary.

>>9383449
I mean i could see it being weird and i definitely wouldnt let any sissies or untrustworthy people come(they might steal your dresses in the night?) but i was thinking like a blair waldorf level sleepover, pic related. theres an air of maturity and elegance
the ageplay aspect of it is definitely a reach..i mean some people would say throwing tea parties is "childish" because little kids throw pretend tea parties with their dolls but no ones complaining about that. Just because its nostalgic doesnt mean its childish.

>>9383460
Yeah, my post was about having like a really large sleepover. Like a couple hundred people.

>>9383449
I constantly plan sleepovers with friends. I did it in college and still do it in my late twenties.
we all bring pillows and blankets and cushions and make a fluffy den in someone's living room, playing drinking games, video games, board games, sporcle and/or watching movies.

sleepovers are for everyone and a lolita sleepover would be amazing. maybe you could encourage everyone to wear casual so the decompression/dress down part of the night is easier?

>>9383465
That might be a little dangerous, because you cant keep an eye on everyone and again some random ita sees a pretty dress and shoves it into her bag while everyone is sleeping is not something you want to happen...
>>9383466
thats a good idea. this is all just a maybe though, i just wanted to see what the general opinion is and if anyone would think its a weird meetup idea.

>>9383473
I guess I never thought about people actually getting undressed and into PJs? I was imagining more like, party all night sleep over, if people pass out it's okay there's places to sleep kind of thing. Like an over night meet up.

>>9383327
Same boat, three for three.
>lives in Nor Cal

>>9383550
>also in nor cal and loves to play tabletop shit
h-hey anon

>>9383473
Solution!
Get a venue with lockers.
Solved!

>>9383559
Email in the field, hope in my heart.

>>9383564
Brilliant!

>>9383482
ohhh i dont like staying up all night, but thats just me. i could see how an overnight meetup would be fun, especially on maybe dress release nights?
>>9383564
im thinking of sleepovers at someones house though. you might be able to get everyone to put their stuff into a big safe? or a locked room.

>>9383569
emailed

>>9383577
Hundreds of people anon?

>>9383244
>>9382885

Yes, that's what I mean by she wasn't driven off. iirc she was well-liked enough towards the end. But she still had to deal with the occassional person here and there throwing a tantrum, plus way at the beginning someone made a thread calling her contest suspicious. Just as an example that even if you want to generate OC and give away nice things to anons, sometimes you gotta deal with shit being flung directly to your face instead of being bitched about behind your back.

Glad to hear an update to the contest saga, though. I knew she went to Korea but not what happened after or why she stopped posting.

>>9383594
Haha no im >>9383278

What blouse do you gulls recommend for cap sleeve jsks? I know this style of jsk came out when blouses weren't necessarily a must have, but I'd like to wear something to cover up my arms. I feel like the blouse with this jsk looks a bit awkward and bulky. Should I try a bolero instead?

>>9382080
Just don't be an idiot

>>9382612
Not to that degree.

>>9383371
>tfw would love to try playing DnD but the local group is full of assholes
Lolita DnD sounds great pls do

>>9383449
Apparently guys having lesbian sexual fantasies about girls at sleepovers is a thing so maybe anons thought you were a guy looking for fap material.

>>9383371
I would fucking LOVE to do DnD sessions with fellow lolitas.

>>9383674
round collar blouse with slimfit sleeves or wear a nice cutsew under it

>>9383674
The issue with that blouse is that it has shirring. Just chose a blouse without any shirring. I also don't love the neckline with that dress, but I like putting high neck collars under OPs.

>>9378095
Is Tenso scammy lately? I got a dress from CL marked as 500g, and Tenso says it is 850g. The shipping will obviously increase.
On a side note, is there any alternative to Tenso?

>>9383371
Sign me the fuck up for this

>>9383278
I love this but I'm not close enough to the girls in my comm to be invited to something like this

Question about CC. I was checking out and was up to the last screen with the orange button to pay for paypal, but went away for a few minutes and when I came back to click the button, it gave me an error. I received the CC email about them receiving my order, but how do I pay them? Will they invoice me? And is it possible that someone else bought the item?

>>9383309
For a lot of lolitas, lolita is their normal clothing. All their other clothing is for work/sports/etc.
>having to sit still because your clothes are keeping you from moving normally
Consider looking for dresses that fit more comfortably and please take off your wig when you drive, you are endangering innocent people. Also, it's unnecessary to damage your eyes for lolita.

>>9383842
Send them an email asking for PayPal link.
If you got their confirmation of order, it means they are holding the item for you

>>9382447
Daily Lolita can consist of simple skirts, simple jsks with full shirring, no petticoat or a very small one and flat shoes.
I often wear BPN skirts and plain black blouses from H&M

>>9383846
I have just emailed them. Thank you!

Sorry if this should be asked in the spoonfeeding thread but has anyone reported an item being sold 'twice' or the email being sent to more than 1 person? I'm a little worried that someone else might have gotten the bow since it comes up very rarely.

>>9383849
>no petticoat
Mental

>>9383851
The first mail says that they got your order and they will check the availability of the item. After a while they check the item and confirm again, if you already payed they ship it right away. If you had payed and the item is not available anymore, they will refund, which is a rare case desu

>>9383309
Idk but maybe it would help to leave the wig and falsies at home and get clothes that fit you. If the clothes hurt you they are obviously not right size. Same with shoes. Lolita is not supposed to be hurting you.

>>9383855
beauty is pain, anon.
maybe this ott trend will help weed out the weaklings

>>9383307
>>9383371
>>9383697
Roll20?

>>9383903
People like that just wear it to a meet-up every month because it's too painful to wear for anything other than a special occasion

>>9383559
>>9383569
t-third norcal anon here. can i message too?

>>9383371
>Roll20
this this this
I would do it myself but have zero DM experience
please invite the seagulls when you set it up

>>9383449
we used to have sleepovers in our comm, we'd stay up watching horror movies and drinking shit wine and playing hide-and-seek in one of the lolita mod's bfs mansion. those were good times.
>tfw that lolita lives in kawaii nippon now and your apartment is not nearly large enough for the good hide and seek games

>>9383244
I was the anon who won demon! wow, long time no see. yeah, I never got my prize packet, but I figured it was just late? and then when it never arrived then I sort of shrugged it off because i didn't think it was worth causing a fuss over. Entering the contest wasn't for the sake of the prize, more just because it seemed fun to participate and see what other gulls came up with.

>>9384114
this sounds perfect.

>>9383371
I am so down for this. Please let us know if you ever want to roll20!

>>9382080
All these new replicas are really getting annoying. I was always ambivalent on the replica debate, but something about these new ones just annoys me. Not to mention that for the price of a replica you can get actual brand these days...

>>9383855
different anon, I agree with better for clothes, but let's not act like taobao, AP/Baby or bodyline shoes are ever comfortable. It's the same reason people order up sizes and put soles in them, they're nearly always not made well. Everyone bitches about shoes.

>>9384365
I don't understand why you'd wear them then, and why you're ignoring the fact you can wear other shoes with lolita

>>9383820
Yeah, they started putting things in larger boxes, using excessive packaging for Japan. I tried using jpn-depot, but they have a few bugs in their software yet. Customer service is quick though so I'd still recommend them.

>>9384120
Aw, I'm sorry to hear that. I do agree though, it was a lot of fun. I wish things were going better for her, but I can't really explain as it's too personal. I couldn't say if we'll see her here again.

>>9384033
It's >>9383559, throwaway email in the field.

Does anyone have examples of cute eyeglasses in coords other than big wire meme frames? Not just okay frames, but ones that are functional and look like accessories too. I'm due for a new pair and could use some inspiration. I wear classic and gothic so I'm not looking for anything too cutesy or pastel.

How fucked am I guys?

I was on the last screen of a closetchild purchase, and I hit the paypal button at the end. As it opened the paypal login to pay, I accidentally closed out of my browser.

>>9385038
Not at all fucked anon... just start over and pay properly.

Lor uploaded a video of her konmari'ing her room. Wondering if any other lolitas combine minimalism/minimalist ideals with their wardrobes, and if so, how?
I now have around 15-20 main pieces and I haven't worn most of them/they don't fit. obvious answer would be to sell them, however I can't help but hold on to them in hopes that they will fit once I lose 20 pounds.

>>9385042
The item has been marked sold on the site though...
I guess I have to wait until it's buyable again and then I can try to purchasing again right?

Is it normal to wear a simple coord to AP or BTSSB San Francisco to try on things so I can try them with my own blouse and petti?

>>9385073
Yeah I'd say it's pretty normal. The last time I was at Baby my lolita friend (in full coord) tried on a dress, she just switched out the dress, kept her blouse and petti on.

>>9385048
Was the money removed from your PayPal account?
If not it looks like someone else bought them tbqh senpai

>>9384352

ffs this isn't even a popular dress.

>Lacemarket makes survey asking about interest in new features, likely at the expense of even more fees or overly intrusive ads
>they can't even keep the site functioning half of the time as it is and also acknowledge this in their survey

I mean, really?

>>9385038
You're not. If you made it to the screen with the PayPal button it means your order went through. You should've gotten an automatic email to confirm.

Hey, Gulls, do y'all know any places to get rocking horse shoes right now? I'm looking for a pair in white to wear with oldschool coords, but BL is out, I don't see any on lacemarket or in the FB sales groups, and I've been unfruitful looking in other places. Any help would be appreciated.

Recs for cute, long bloomers would also be cool!

>>9385305
Vivienne Westwood,how long do you want the bloomers to be?

>>9385048
I'd email them

>>9385313
Can't drop that much on those shoes, though I wish I could afford genuine VW. Thank you though.

And peaking bloomers style, like pic. Near the knees.

>buy shoes on LM
>Not charged for shipping
>Still get shipment email
>Sent as media mail
What? I was on board with paying priority. I better not be charged by the postal service when it gets here. I just don't understand why this was done this way, unless tracking is lying to me

>>9385038
>>9385042
>>9385077

They email you if you bought it and didn't pay. Relax.

>>9385042
I minimalized my normal wardrobe, didn't bother with my lolita stuff. The only thing I did that comes close to organizing is maintaining a spreadsheet of all items related to my jfash wardrobes in order to not get too crazy with purchases.

If they're not taking up room I say hold onto them if they'll help you work toward your goal of losing 20lbs. I did that with some dresses in the past, and ended up selling them after I could fit in them again because I decided to change my style. Still gratifying to know that I could fit them without issue again though.

>>9384887
No coord examples unfortunately, but I've been eyeing these frames from Warby Parker for some time now. You can see what they look like worn on their website.
>tfw my prescription is too strong for Lilia ;_;

>>9386075
Those are super cute, I like the delicate design on them! I was thinking along the lines of shiny wire frames too. I have thick rimmed plastic frames that, while nice, are too modern looking for my liking in lolita