/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Is anyone friends with Michael on Facebook and knows how he's actually reacting?

>>9397954
I saw two of their "apologies" for not paying people and it's mildly disturbing how they were written years apart yet are almost identical.

>>9397975
If I know him, he's laying low and finding an exit strategy.

Posted this on the old thread but in case it is missed there:

>>9397641 #
I know some of you pointed out the irony in this story, but here's a bit more detail on "a friend started dating a girl that had a bad fallout with someone in the last big house" and brought her to Mike's house party. That girl was Jordan, and the beef she had was over a household member having slept with an exboyfriend of Jordan's 5+ years prior. The person she was dating, who brought her to the party, was someone she was only dating out of pity and to prove a point to one of her friends (a LONGTIME victim of abuse and manipulation from Jordan) who had been dating said guy a few weeks prior: a "I can do anything/anyone you can do, so don't feel special" jab. Jordan would shit talk this guy constantly and wanted to break up with him the entire time but was going to "wait until after Newcon [that year] so he could have a good time."

She was eventually kicked out of the party due to the household being so uncomfortable with her being there. BUT before she and her friends left, they asked MIKE if they could stay and he said YES. The reason they ultimately left was the guy Jordan was dating was too uncomfortable with the situation and begged to go. But little ol Mike apparently had no problem with her being around ;)P

>>9397989
Yo, its absolutely just cookie cutter bullshit. Right down to excuses and the wording. They're not sorry for what they did, they're sorry they got caught.

>>9397999
Lmao right? "So sorry you caught us being sloppy"

Another update from the last thread so that people know where this is going--

The convention host, Zach Marsh/Zaxel and an exec have pulled out of NewCon/AnimePDX since the beginning of this big detail fest.

>>9398011
The exec that pulled out is the secretary who's job it is to renew the business license, so I doubt it'll ever get renewed.

If anyone has screen caps of Mike & Jordan's respective FB meltdowns please share.

>>9398018
Aha! That's amazing.Though, after that thread I'm sure Mike is scrambling to renew it with the amount of people threatening to report them to the IRS.

>>9398023
This this this!

>>9398018

That Warner hasn't been an Executive for about a year and a half now, he quit a while ago and just sorta stayed around to act as manager for the wrestling content. Which is honestly pretty terrible for him, because he and Rikkishi apparently hit it off and were super chill or something. Mike not paying Rikkishi is basically just a huge "fuck you" at this point.

>>9398027
Someone else was attempting to hijack their license but ended up not doing so.

>>9398064
He also is the one who ran cosplay wrestling 3 years after vaguely mentioning it to the creators, this running it without permission.

>>9398064
Not true. They added him to the Newcon credit union account this year.

>>9398109
I thought they operated the whole con through PayPal?

>>9398125
Largely. But its illegal to operate a business without a business bank account.Not that they're doing things by the book since their business licenses are expired.

>>9398125
Most likely what it is, is they have a bank account to comply with the necessary laws but its illegal for business owners to access business accounts WITHOUT a second and sometimes third party present. Most credit unions won't even let you touch the money without the treasurer present. So its tied to a paypal so that Mike has access to it. I'm PRETTY sure that bank account is in Jordan's name ONLY. So they would HAVE to use paypal if Mike wanted access to that money.

here's hoping the other warner will pull out. like mike's dad should have.

>>9398139
Clearly they have both because the Wunderwelt scandal is with their PayPal, and the Rikishi scandal is a dishonored check (and I don't think you can write checks from PayPal...)

>>9398145
Oh snap...

>>9397017
Nah, guess again.
Feels like Wally disappeared after the Dai Gurren house parties stopped - haven't seen him in forever.

>>9397032
"Changed a ton" as in doesn't get plastered at cons or party hard anymore.
Isn't the social butterfly he used to be.
Isn't the crazy, fun, energetic person he was in like 2013 when everyone first met him.

I'm not saying he's changed for the better and to put your trust in him again.
He's just a very different person from the "Tyrone" everyone first met.

>>9397035
See pic.
His girlfriend also made a status about no longer attending the con.

>>9397975
>>9398023
>>9398030
Friends with both of them on FB.
They haven't posted anything since the 14th and 16th - before the last thread was posted.

>>9398185
Hard to party when you have no real friends

>>9398196
You're doing the lord's work

As a staffer, I only vaguely heard of rumors and whatnot third or fourth-hand from people who heard it from others. I'm glad people are sharing all these stories and info en masse, it's helping some of us to finally put together the pieces. Cons are always disorganized, but Newcon seemed to have its own set of special problems. I definitely won't be staffing anymore, and I've been sending the threads to my friends who I've staffed with. I never knew Mike super well, but I'm counting that as a blessing that I never got used.

>>9398109
He was added years ago, was actually one of the original 3 people on the account, along with the Ops director. I know because I was hanging out with the treasurer later in the day after they had gone to the bank

Former director of publicity just went public with his testimonial, corroborating a lot of the stories here regarding Newcon 3.

>>9398242
Screenshot?

>>9398242
Caps please in case it's deleted? You can black out the last names.

>>9398251
He won't delete it. But his stories are fucked up.

Went to screencap Jordan posting about needing help moving something for Newcon or something, but it's been deleted (it was there like two hours ago). Otherwise neither has posted anything con related on fb I'm the last 48 hrs that I've seen.

>>9398282
Caps???

>>9398282
I don't know who this is so therefore I can't look at his Facebook. Post caps and blur the names.

OH. MY. GOD. I STILL HAVE ACCESS TO MY CHAT RECORDS WITH HIM.

>>9398297
Just so you know, 4chan is an anonymous image board. So we don't know who posts what. Vague comments like this aren't useful to the thread, so moving forward, please just include screen caps so we can better follow along!

>>9398297
you wouldn't do that to your ole pal Mikey would you?

Part 1 of former DOP

>>9398309
part 2

>>9398297
POST THAT SHIT

>>9398314
not that person but i'm looking through my old chats with him and I can't make it past a few days of conversation it makes me too sick, mine are way back from 4/2015 though.

>>9398343
be strong for the cause. post what you can if possible

>>9398364
maybe later. i'm not sure what i have besides him shit talking other people. definitely nothing in regards to newcon except lies...and lies about bills from when i lived with him.

Let's dive into Mike's "lost year" (i.e. the year he spent with Jordan's friend group after ditching Dai Gurren house/his former friend group). As Mike's ex right before this schism pointed out, Mike flashes a lot of money around to get people to like him. He took Jordan to several fancy dinners and all-night-bar-hopping dates (where he bought all of her drinks). Jordan had recently broken up with the guy she was pity dating and although she had been going on undefined "dates" with another member of the con community, she dropped him as soon as Mike & his money showed up. During this time, Mike talked a lot about how he wanted to move closer to Portland from Tigard, get his own place, and go back to school. The people he told this to had no idea that everything with the Dai Gurren house was happening right then. Mike started staying at Jordan's house (owned by one of her friends) a lot, eventually admitting he was avoiding the housemates who he and Jordan pitched a sob story about to anyone who would listen about how hurtful and manipulative the DA house was and how Mike hadn't done anything to deserve it. Jordan accompanied Mike to numerous meetings to "get his stuff back from the house" and "pay off their water bill" that "wasn't his fault" (but was willing to drop ~$900 for them so that they "wouldn't hate him.") Instead of getting his own place, the story turned to "I need a place to be safe from those people immediately," and so moved in with Jordan without getting an official okay from the homeowner, who because of their long friendship with Jordan, assumed that everything would turn out okay and was willing to help out someone in need. (1/3)

IMMEDIATELY after this, all of Mike's money vanished, with no telling where it had come from in the first place (likely the last dredges of that $5k he took to SAK before this). He was at this time spinning the story about operating an "event planning" business, whom no one ever saw him plan an event for. Soon after that was the event previously mentioned where Mike had organized a trip to a beach house which included a lot of the people he'd now burned bridges with, and who were asking for their deposits back. To come up with the money to pay them back (because he "didn't want them to hate him"), Jordan asked a bunch of her friends to attend and pay into the deposit, which sort of cemented Mike into the new friend group. Shortly after that, Jordan graduated college and did not seek employment. She and Mike, both jobless, repeatedly paid rent late or not at all and their rent for Jordan's room was super cheap to begin with. When there was a sudden spike in Newcon pre-reg sales, suddenly they had the money to afford rent (Jordan also had a job for like a few weeks but that was apparently too much work for her). They would sit around and play video games (even bought a PS4) and go to LARP campouts and would ALWAYS explain specifically where the money was coming from even though no one asked (oh this is a loan from Mike's family or Jordan's family, oh this is a bonus from this, oh this is from that, etc.) - classic "hiding their tracks" behavior. The one thing they never could quite explain was why they couldn't pay their rent on time. This is also around the time that Mike took out the Newcon PayPal loan, if I am remembering the story correctly. (2/3)

Immediately AFTER Newcon 4, they and two friends took one of their classic all-expenses-paid trips to ALA. Where did the funds for THAT come from, I wonder? A few months later, they attended SAK and told their friends that their room was discounted for being industry, and that their badges were comped (they also gave badges to others that were there to "work the Newcon booth" even though very few of them actually did). The friends staying with them were given inconsistent totals to pay in for the hotel, so some paid more than others even though everyone was sharing the room making a discount unlikely (and they very much doubted afterward that Jordan/Mike paid for any of their share at all).

After this, they made their exodus to Beaverton, but due to a lack of being able to afford moving costs, they stayed at Jordan's friends house TWO WEEKS after their scheduled move-out date, and did not pay for those weeks until TWO MONTHS later, which we can all guess why they paid that off -- Mike clearly "doesn't want anyone to hate him." Some of this information comes from direct experience, some of it is information shared among Jordan's ex-friends after she showed her cards to them and they dropped her for being a lying, manipulative, abusive con artist just like Mike (which she'd been doing to them long before Mike ever came around). The way I understand it though is that no one in this group ever spoke a bad word of Jordan or Mike until that reveal. As someone in-the-know at the time, I certainly never heard anything bad said or any speculation that Mike and Jordan were being dishonest. They all believed Mike, sided with him against the people who disparaged him after Newcon 3, backed up he and Jordan both, fought for him, and even staffed Newcon for him. (3/3 but jk there will be one more)

In retrospect (and after they heard how much Mike and Jordan were shit-talking them to everyone even though they'd taken Mike into their friend group and stood up for Jordan for like decades), it wasn't possible for them to ignore all of the gaslighting and outright lying that had been going on so they cut ties completely. It's relieving to see that all of these people now don't have to suffer from those lies anymore and are united in that this didn't happen to them alone. If you don't think this can happen to you, it can. It's pretty hard to see you're being taken advantage of when you're in it. Keep the enlightening coming, folks. (4/3)

>>9398467
his money vanished because his source of income (his roommates at dai gurren) disappeared after he moved out.

Old treasurer so BTFO he made a public facebook post about being on suicide watch lol

>>9398544
caps?

>>9398544
Caps. I didn't see anything to that degree. So try to keeo your manipulative shit to yourself

>>9398584
>>9398579
He commented it in a reply to someone named Jo's comment, but I just tried to go cap it and it was deleted

>>9398544
He has done no such thing. The only public post is saying he hasn't worked for newcon for two years and is unable to help people get refunds.

>>9398598
I already said it was a reply in that thread and he probably deleted it to hide his shame

>>9398600
Super convenient that it happens to get deleted right after people ask for caps. In a thread chock full of actual evidence, you can fuck right off.

>>9398544
Jesus Christ Mike, don't you have a remote cabin in Wyoming to put a down payment on? Or you moving to Canada to evade the feds?

Hi my name is Michael "Tyrone/Pingu" and I'm here to clear the air about all of this stuff going on.

First off, I'm so sorry that all of this happened. It was a miscommunication that happened when I was born that allowed me to continue living. I know a thing or two about miscommunication, trust me, they happen all the time when I owe people money, so I'm a bit of an expert.

Second, I have never and I FUCKING MEAN NEVER attempted to rape anyone. You CAN'T rape if your dick never gets hard and I should know, my dick NEVER gets hard.

All of you cowards thinking that you're being brave by coming forward and telling your stories about me and my convention? You could have just talked to me in person instead, but you all took the low road and publicly outed me. I would never do something so awful, I only say horrible things about people behind their backs and to their friends IN PERSON. NEVER ONLINE AND PUBLICLY, YOU COWARDS.

I have done nothing but put my blood and tears into Newcon. I'd say I put sweat in it too, but I have no idea what physical exertion is or feels like. But the point is, I've cried a lot about all the mean things you people have said about me and my girlfriend and my convention. We worked really hard to try to undermine Kumoricon, fill my "bank account" and make a convention that people can enjoy (but only if they've touched my balls). Is that so bad?

In conclusion, leave me alone, leave my equally two-faced, shit eating girlfriend alone, leave my convention alone. Just let us live in peace until we eventually get thrown into prison.

Thank you,
-Mikey A.

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>>9397975
I'm fb friends with him. He hasnt said a peep in a few days. Most likely shutting down like he does when shit hits the fan like this.

If he really cared about the con, he and his gf would resign. It's the professional thing to do at this point.

>>9398672
The thing I'm worried about is he will resign but take the money and run, and leave all the smoldering ruins for what's left of their execs. It's honestly better if the con just shuts down.

>>9398675
nah he'll resign and put someone else in charge that he can control and pull the strings still from behind the scenes

It seems like all of the stuff in these threads boils down to: Mike is a a half-baked Dennis Reynolds.

>>9398679
Not all heroes wear capes.

>>9398679
Top. Kek.

>>9398675
damn shame. There are good people on the exec board that really are passionate.

>>9398740
That's what everyone who was involved always said. Oh mike is bad but the con is good! That's what they've said for years, and it's not going to recover.

Mike is using the con funds as his personal funds. He IS Newcon, that's it.

Every time I check Facebook there's another post of someone giving their personal account of how Michael has hurt them. Like, I've seen at least 5 today.
And if they're not giving a story, they're announcing they won't go to another Newcon or Anime PDX ever again. I seriously think this could be the end of this con. Keep talking about this, keep spreading the word.

>>9398763
most of these people weren't going to go anyway. as long as mike has uninformed kids who worship whatever the flavor of the month thing is (homestuck, undertale, overwatch, etc.) that dont know or care about any of this, mike has an income

>>9398763
Good fucking riddance. I hope along with the con, he and Jordan drop off the face of the earth and live in bumfuck middle america for the rest of their lives hiding from the government.

>>9398766
The post about Wunderwelt is being shared on tumblr and twitter too, I'm seeing a lot of people outside Portland share it. Including popular cosplayers and fanartists.

>>9398766
weebs gonna weeb

>>9398766
Not so sure about that, since many of the people quitting are active staff, artists, vendors, etc.

Agreed. If there's no one there to provide content, and word gets out communicating as much, hopefully no one will bother going.

Mike has released a statement:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1kVXxyvvOk

>>9398782
It's not Mike for anyone curious. It's a meme video.

>>9398740
If they're passionate and good at their jobs they should jump ship immediately and try to get staffed on other conventions. Newcon is dead.

So if people are intent on kill this con I guess Oregon only has

Wizard world - costs a fortune to get in and closes at 7

Rose city - costs about the same as a regular convention, but less content and closes at 7

Kumoricon - has a bit more content then Newcon and costs about he same.

Honestly I like going to convention and i'm going to be sad if people kill Newcon.

sure you can mention conventions in Seattle but I like Portland having its own con scene and it already has so little

>>9398843
This mentality is how corrupt conventions that steal money and hurt people keep on going. Stop being selfish.

>>9398843
Kumo has "a bit" more content? Not only does it have a TON more content, but it has a TON more space and more to do....and yet Newcon charges the same amount. Just no.

>>9398843
found the weeb

>>9398843
>i'm going to be sad if people kill Newcon
why? Kumoricon is already plenty for Portland, we're not thaaat big of a city. Plus, if Newcon is called of, it's pretty likely that some more competent, less shitty people will start up a different con. Since more than 2 cons is a pretty unrealistic expectation for Portland, it would give a chance to have 2 good cons instead of 1 good one and 1 shitshow. It's a win-win all around.

>>9398843
newcon came after the death of MEW. If it falls itll only be a matter of time until someone comes up with something newer

>>9398856
True, but the next name on the list is "Oewcon", and that's not very catchy...

>>9398851
I mean your posting in a cosplay board

All the hypocrites in this thread acting like valiant crusaders lol. You fucks knew about Mike year after year and still went. You all make me sick.

>>9398855

If Newcon is called off then most likely there wont be anything to replace it. Also why are more than 2 cons unrealistic for portland? i mean aslong it isnt Wizard World prices Portland could host 1-2 more.

>>9398859
>your instead of you're
>You must be 18+ to use this site.

>>9398860
Its probablly going to end up like Aki-Con. People will still go but less and less people will go each year.

>>9398864

Cool story bro

>>9398864
your to stupid too be telling people that this is 18+ site

>>9398843
Don't forget Orycon and PRGE

>>9398856
That's because Mike not only sabotaged Mewcon, but then created is own copy called Newcon. Even the name.

>>9398871

Ahh forgot about PRGE.

It was fun and I have to say pretty nice. I would debate about including it in this list as it's not a Anime/Comic Convention, but you get what you pay for more or less.

I can't comment on Orycon as I keep forgetting it exists. Based on what I have read on the website / some comments of some people who have been there its not really a Anime / Comic convention.

>>9398875
I didn't realize you were limiting your list to anime/comic conventions. I was merely pointing out that there are other conventions in the area. I think Heroes & Villains Fan Fest is even in Portland this year.

>>9398870
It is, you dolt

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>>9398863
Your priorities and moral compass are rightfully fucked if you're THAT desperate to attend such a corrupt con. Do you really need another weekend excuse to put on that Taobao SAO costume that you don't have a wig for?

I don't cosplay trash and I have a wonderful wig collection thank you very much.

Lol, this is Mike. What a fucking faggot.

>>9398894

FEGGIT

>>9398894

That should be his mugshot

Ugh, this shit is such a mess. Let the damn con die and help Kumoricon grow into the lovely con it should be. Let the Lolita's cold together with them, and one day they can surpass Sakuracon. The OCC has tons more space than WSCC anyway. Let's do this.

>>9398894
Nice attempt at getting this thread deleted for singling out. Keep it focused on the convention.

Can we compile a full list of the timeline of what Newcon did each year? Who they screwed over each year?

>>9398863
we're simply not populous enough or in the right location to host more than 2, maybe 3 reasonably sized anime conventions.

lol, just remembered about two years ago I got bored and started writing a notepad of some of the rumors and drama Mike had started / helped spread around then.

Translating my chicken scratch:
>Meepygal wasn't meant to be a guest of Newcon.
Don't remember how she ended up as one, especially since it was after the "Blue haired bitch" incident.
>MD used Newcon funds to pay for his own hotel room and used it as a BDSM dungeon during the con, posting photos of it on Twitter.
>CL / treasurer supposedly hadn't told Mike who had or hadn't been paid, and was supposedly what caused the guest payment issue.
>Said treasurer wasn't authorized to pay guests.
Not sure how he was supposed to be the treasurer if he had little to no control over the funds.
>Said JB scared a L'oreal hair model from Idaho out of the con scene.
>Claimed LS who had broken both of her arms that she'd actually healed, had gotten too comfortable living off of others' generosity, and that she owed him several grand in rent, since he stopped charging her after the accident.

He'd generally just talk shit about people, then turn around and act like best friends.
Granted, basically everyone was guilty of going along with his gossip and ate it up, but he loved starting it.
Think the worst case was how much he shit talked a particular girl he ended up dating less than a week later. (Same one he was with when this pic was taken >>9398894)

>>9398953
If this is 3, I'm sure the treasurer had control of the funds because I ran into him on more than one occasion where he had a money box, and once he was headed to his office with one of the guests to pay them (or so they claimed)
Now, whether there was anything in there to pay people is a different story. Coulda just been ferrying coke for mike for all I know

So I've never met mike personally, I've only heard the shit about him from a friend who was involved with one of his old house scenes.

But I DID know Jordan, really, really well for a few years. We were best friends for I think four years or so? I was pretty young at the time - still a teenager through most of it (when she was in her mid twenties). Didn't have many problems at the time, I definitely was non confrontational and would just trust her on most stuff. The last year we were friends (about 5 years or so I think) she started dating a new guy after a very long relationship going south. I was happy for her that she was getting out there after the shitty breakup, but she started to do this thing a bunch where I'd try to arrange a hangout, she'd say she couldn't because she had homework, and then get tagged on Facebook at a bar like an hour later.

This went on for about half a year before I was totally sick of it and willing to do something about it. She did it to me again on New Year's Eve, and got tagged again, so I messaged her as gently as I could asking why this kept happening - she was one of my besties, and this was making me really sad and I just wanted to understand. Instead of getting any sort of explanation, she BLEW UP at me. Started texting me insult after insult just to be mean. I cried the whole night. I even showed all of our texts to my partner of the time and my other friends, to see if I fucked something up somehow - but everyone was just as bewildered as I was.

I decided to give her another shot in the morning, to give her a chance to apologize - she could've just been really wasted, right? It was New Year's Eve and she was at a bar. So I messaged her again asking what even happened last night, and she blew up at me, again. Then, over the next two months or so, she passive aggressively mentions me on Facebook, and lies to our mutual friends of that friend group about me to cut off all communication with me. (1/2)

(2/2) she effectively cut me out of almost all my friends, and isolated me with my partner of the time (who was also an abuser). I still have no idea what I did to piss her off, because I came at her as a concerned bestie who just wanted to know what was going on. Honestly though I'm glad I got cut out when I did, so I never had to deal with the shit I've heard some of her other close friends had to go through (although I'm glad they're getting out now).

Looking back on a lot of our friendship though, she treated people like shit everywhere she went. She would hang out with people, only to talk shit about them the minute they left. She would say things happened differently than they did and make you question how it actually happened, even if you were there. Quite frankly, it sounds like her and Mike deserve each other.

>>9398873
damn, i totally forgot about that. that's kind of pathetic

>>9398985
I know you. She was actually at my house that New Years Eve. Man did she talk mad shit about you. And about me. She made good and sure we couldn't be friends. I'm writing up my own account of what being "friends" with Jordan was like as well as a more detailed accounting of Mike's year after largely severing ties with his last friend group and how he "Ran NewCon" in that time.

But hey! I hope things are looking up for you man. Dealing with these people is a shit show.

At this point you could make up stories about how Mike is secretly planning to use the proceeds from Newcon to clone Hitler and start the Fourth Reich and people would believe it because of all the other shit he's done. It's like reverse boy who cried wolf or something.

I feel for you, people of Oregon. No state should have to deal with having so few choices of cons that a guy like Mike can actually get somewhere

>>9398953
I think I know who JB is, and having gone to cons with him in Idaho, well, Idaho doesn't have any hair models.

>>9398873
wait he sabotaged Mewcon? I thought the death of mewcon was every one ghosting it because security was a joke.

That and they couldnt decided if they wanted to be 18+ or not

>>9399100
Your thoughts are correct. Mewcon died because of ghosting.

It was a fun con though - Most of the big group in Portland at the time raided the pool one night.

Adding on more to the shit pile: let's not forget that Jordan - despite being a person who claims LGBT+ identity and is very vocal about being a welcoming person - has made numerous, unapologetic trans-phobic comments just to be a hurtful bitch.

But then, that's who she is. Someone who puts on an identity because she thinks it makes her trendy and different.

I guess committing financial fraud is the new trendy thing?

>>9398858
Pewcon!!! For all your catholic mass needs!!

>>9398858

Was a former friend and I watched them systematically harass and alienate anyone they couldn't squeeze any value out of. At first I didn't see it because it was happening to a recent ex, then a lot of people who disliked me because of her, and then it just kept slowly creeping along until we reached a boiling point where they are running out of friends. Would not doubt that they mocked me, but neither was willing to say anything to my face; they were deathly afraid of me for some reason, which was fucking great.

Take the energy you all have here and form a new convention if that is what you all want to do, start it small and just have fun. It's not about guests or fancy events, it's about dressing up in costumes and having a good time with old and new friends. You don't need to put money in the pocket of people like this to have a good time.

>>9398863
Given the number of events competing for event space, combined with the necessity of hotel rooms, IDK if we can fit more. Kumoricon had to change their date just to fit into the availability of the Convention center.

And, like it or not, we have already hit Peak Anime. An anime-only convention is going to have nowhere near the appeal or drawing power of a mixed nerdshit convention.

One market I can see having appeal, however, is a 21+ convention that serves alcohol.

>>9399163
Someone's already working on Newcons eventual replacement.

>>9399188
Got any more info?

>>9398766
Not true. I am seeing people who are just learning about this for the first time and are disgusted they every supported the con to begin with.

>>9398843
Why not hand him your paychecks directly instead of trying to go to the con. Cut out the middle man. It's only by people like you that he can keep his fun adventure going. I'm sure he is reading this thinking "yes you stupid fucking 15 year old weeb, give me money because all you care about is going to a con"

You should post your name, I imagine you can be his next best friend. Dumb fuck.

>>9398981
Mike did the exact same thing to me. I was going to get dinner with him, he said he was coming back from his dad's house. About an hour later, when he should have been in town, he said was stuck in traffic but on messenger he had it set up so I could see his location, so I know he was at PDX lan.

>>9399245
Not really, the person themselves admitted they're super early into the process, basically told me they're trying to put steps in place to prevent situations like the one Newcon is in right now.

They've been around the PNW scene for a while, and I think they know what they're doing.

Why not post another testimony to these people's behavior?

I knew Jordan for almost fourteen years and I can't even begin to cover all of the manipulative abuse she put me through, but I'll name some key points that happened in recent years.

- constantly complaining and shit talking the people she lived with to me, but turns around and calls them her best friends. Come to find out she was doing the same to me throughout our friendship.

- comes up with every excuse she can think of to hate friends that I introduce to her, especially people I'm interested in dating.

- Dated a guy I told her I was interested in. Then dated a guy not a couple weeks after I broke up with him.

- told me I was the worst person she had ever met, that I was the reason she quit high school when I told her I was dating someone she didn't like. Mind you, she has zero reason to dislike this person.

- told me she had 'feelings' for me to keep me from dating this person. After I kindly turned her down, she started dating Mike only a week later.

- proceeded to shove Mike's company down my throat and would get pissed if I didn't feel like hanging out with him, but would not bestow the same courtesy to me.

I could go ON. But like I said, there's so fucking much. Now, onto Mike. (1/2)

Mike was nice enough in the very beginning. But once he got in with Jordan and our group ((i.e. Secured a place for himself to live)) then his behavior did a real quick 180.

- I would be invited over, but both Jordan and Mike would disappear in their room for like... An hour and I would sit on the couch in the living room. This happened on multiple occasions and not just to me.

- Mike told me he was gender fluid, but was only masculine because he was so 'stressed out'.

- would feign panic attacks, especially when someone else was having a legitimate one because heaven forbid someone else has the attention on them for more than two seconds.

- I joined LARP to try and salvage my dying friendship with Jordan and was sexually harassed at a campout. It turned into a huge ordeal and when I told Mike to stop using my name so that the entirety of the LARP community would stop bothering me, he got upset and Jordan sent me a really shitty email basically telling me I don't care about women's rights. All of this happened while I was at work.

- Mike never worked. He never had a job as long as I knew him. He didn't do much aside from sitting on the living room couch playing video games I always wondered how he could afford.

- after doing the mascots for his con, there was the inevitable falling out, but I tried to keep a business relationship with him. He tried to breach our agreement and take my AA table until he realized I wouldn't roll over.

- told me anime pdx might not have an artist alley. Which is laughable in it's own right.

Again I could go on. There is just.... So much to say, but I'll leave it at this for now. (2/2)

>>9399100 - Actually the Ghosting issue happened because Mike and his little group of defects decided to let all the kiddies know exactly how to get into the con.

>>9399100 - Since ya know... Mewcon was adjusting to try to work themselves up to being an adult convention, and had adjusted their age to 17+ for their third year. People got upset, and Mike helped the kiddies figure out how to get in.

>>9399332
>>9399330
Was mike even there? I didn't think he was involved in the portland con scene until later

>>9399360
Oh he was there. Consider the fact that he went to Mewcon, and it failed in it's third year. A year later he was talking about his 'plans' to start up a new con. On the same weekend, same premise, and even tried to get the same people.

>>9398672
Is he even alive?

>>9399012
Damn, wonder which friend you are - there were so many she cut out of my life at that point I was basically down to 2 friends after that. But yeah, sounds like her. Not super surprised. I'm just sorry you had to deal with her toxicity as well.

>>9399115
And Mike tried to say he's genderfluid a while back. Probably trying to look good in the eyes of the LGBTQ community to get more badge sales for newcon.

>>9399332
mike didn't like the whole 17+ thing because he wouldn't have younger girls to prey on. thats one reason he told people to ghost to kill mewcon that year then turned around to make his own all ages con

Mike didn't even live in oregon till Mew died. I know cause I lived in the house he stayed in. This talk about Mew is probably just Tanis trying to BS his way back into peoples good graces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9J8w6aldSg

Mike just dropped a video response to the pt2 of this thread, playing it like nothing happened.

>>9399440
Mike didn't even gain influence until around early 2012 when he hopped on the backs of the beast house people.

Mewcon died because badge sales sucked and they failed to meet their room block. It wasn't even a bad con, it was just mismanaged.

You don't have to live in a state to participate in the scene. He was there, I know first hand he was at Mewcon, since I was one of the minors he tried to coerce into his room.

He was there on the last year of the event.

I not only personally saw him at Mewcon, I saw him creeping on young girls.

Part of the reason Mewcon was trying to adjust it's age range was because they wanted to minimize the predator aspect that the 'scene' for an All ages New Years con drew. Through this, they hoped to remove people like Tanis and Mike.

>>9399488
Now I kinda wanna know more about tanis, given that I haven't been privy to that dirt since I was involved in K-Con, which I stopped several years ago.

>>9399499

I can't tell you if Tanis was creeping, but it sound like this person just doen't like her because she's trans

>>9399502
I asked because when I was involved with Kumoricon, we had to redlist them. This was before they decided they were trans. I more care about their behavior, regardless of how they identify.

>>9399502
Don't be silly. There are plenty of reasons to dislike Tanis even not including her being trans. But this thread isn't about her.

>>9399502
Nothing to do with trans, long before tanis was out he was a piece of shit whiny pathetic attention whore who creeped on high school girls (me) and told the comm I was a man when I shot him down. Weird that he was so transphobic, but whatevs. She's the sad pathetic douche she always was, she just had diff pronouns now.

>>9399510

I guess this whole fiasco is bringing all shitty behavior to light. I like to think I know whats going around the con scene, but apparently not.

I'm mainly surprised Tanis was ever a creeper. ( never heard anything about that)

I also didn't know Mike was such a scummy dude. ( he seemed nice In person, spent a number of days at a con with him)

>>9399526
Oh Tanis was a horrible person, whether or not they were male or female. Trans or not. They tried to define other peoples trans status, and constantly talk shit about Gender Fluids. Then there is also the fact that Tanis liked to use smaller cons to get people drunk and watch minors do some nasty things. I know first hand of some of Tanis' stuff, considering Tanis nearly raped one of my friends after getting them drunk - then kicked the friend out of their place after the person explained they didn't think of them like that.

Sure people can change, but never once heard about apologies - real apologies - coming from any of the shit creepers that use cons as their predatory playground.

>>9399549
Now that we've got that established, let's make sure we don't stray too far off the important path:

Mike and Jordan are thieving pieces of shit who will slowly go crazy and kill at least one other person in the PNW cosplay community before taking their own lives over living in mediocrity or going to prison.

Tanis here. I never really creeped on anyone. I've also never been to NewCon. Also this news about me being a rapist is new to my ears. Anyway, sorry for the trouble.

Has anyone who backed the anime pdx kickstarter reported them yet? I thought about it, but I don't have as personal a knowledge with the situation as I would need to give details.

Jordan would call herself an introvert, citing that being around people "exhausted [her]." What she actually meant was that she was a narcissistic sociopath who was intolerant of other people having thoughts, feelings, or behaviors that she did not directly sign off on. Here is a list of things that, as Jordan's friend, you were not allowed to do without receiving heavy backlash, antagonism, criticism, bullying, gaslighting, or being disparaged to everyone you know (either behind your back or to your face) about:

- Be trans*. Jordan intentionally misgendered at least two trans people in her social circle because they did not tell her directly that they had transitioned, despite this being PUBLIC knowledge. Doing so was always when speaking poorly of these people. Fun fact: she also outed a trans acquaintance to all of her friends/acquaintances without that person's permission to do so.

- Date or show romantic interest someone. Either you or that person were any number of awful things: abusive, creepy, domineering, desperate, "taking [one or the other] away from [Jordan]," attention-seeking, etc. If there was a chance that dating someone would take away any of the time you devoted to her, then it would be doubly worse.

- Make a friend Jordan didn't make first. This new friend would be intentionally excluded from group events that Jordan was involved with, would be shit-talked constantly for any made up reason that could be construed as plausible, and generally made to feel very unwelcome when they did share space. Many of Jordan's friends worked their asses off to try and keep the peace between her and their other friends just so they could keep them in their lives. Many of Jordan's friends LOST friends because they were unable to do so under her constant string-pulling and abuse.

- Become BETTER friends with a friend Jordan made. This was an even worse sin. This would get that friend or both completely ostracized from their friends in no time. (1/3)

>>9399596
- Go on vacation or trips. If you didn't invite Jordan on your trips, she would not only prevent you from talking fondly about them or posting pictures of them, she would actively criticize you for going and why you did not include her, even if it would have been inappropriate or financially infeasible for her to attend.

- Have money OR be poor yourself. Jordan famously did not hold jobs or have money that wasn't a student loan or family loan. If you did have money, you were privileged and did nothing to earn what you had or get ahead in the world. If you also lacked money like she did, you had no work ethic and needed to take responsibility for yourself. If you spent money on Jordan, you were "trying to buy her affection," but if you did not pay for her meals/movie tickets/share of gas money/etc. then she would both a) refuse to be involved in whatever was going on (and treat you like shit) and b) complain constantly about how you exclude her from things because she is poor or judge her for being poor (a judgement none of her friends did or would make).

- Have talent. If you were a gifted artist, which many of Jordan's friends were/are, she would alternate between pitting you against one another into made-up rivalries to discrediting or disparaging your work (publicly) to taking advantage of you to use your art for personal gain (having friends draw/paint/design/etc. things for her, build cosplay props, sew her cosplay costumes, etc). Fun fact: Jordan would elicit the "help" of her grandmother(s) to assist in all of her sewing projects, including commissioned projects, who did 90% of the work and received no compensation.

- Plan an event or function. Jordan had to be the head of every event otherwise no one was allowed to go or have fun. If you attempted to plan an event without her, oh, that just didn't happened. If you attempted to plan an event with her that wasn't exactly the way she wanted, then you were "stealing her ideas." (2/3)

>>9399601
- Take up space. Jordan became so intrusive in her living environments that she made them impossible for others to live comfortably in. She would harass roommates constantly, would clutter and take up all of the common space and never clean, and would blame it all on her other roommates regardless of where she lived (with family, with S/Os, in the house she lived at before she and Mike moved). It was NOT okay for you to share common spaces with her or make polite conversation, nor to request the space be made open to both of you.

- Ask to hang out with her/initiate conversation/NOT initiate conversation. You were clingy and needy if you spoke to her too often, but if you weren't available when SHE wanted to hang out or talk, then you were neglectful and not a good friend. You couldn't win.

- Have your own interests. If you were interested in something that she wasn't, she would make fun of it ENDLESSLY. But if she was interested in something you weren't, then you were being judgmental of her (even if you openly told her you supported her).

- Be popular. There is nothing worse to Jordan than someone who is getting more attention than she is. To your face she will kiss your ass entirely, and behind your back she'll do everything she can think of to tear you down.

- Let her be anything less than the most important thing in the world to you. This is it. The bottom line. If Jordan did not feel like she was the most important, crucial, and critical thing in your life, then she would attack you, cut off your ties, and spin a web around you until you were either out of everyone in the group's life or you were giving her enough attention to feel like her place was secure. Which never lasted for long.

Please feel free to add to this list. (3/3)

>>9399604
It's depressing how you can interchange Mike and Jordan in all of those items.

>>9399188
You talking the guy that's wanting to make a con at a water park, or is there someone else?

>>9399630
I've not heard anything about a water park being involved.

Tanis found out we're talking about him.

>>9399661
Isn't this kinda derailing the actual topic? Let's stay on track, this isn't about Tanis, it's about Newcon and Mike

>>9399673
It is and I suspect it's Mike grasping at straws. He likes to misdirect and derail.

Also, I'm serious wondering, if that wasn't Mike, if he even exists. Has anyone talked to him in the past 72 hours?

>>9399692
He's likely wobbling at mach 5 while blabbering about how people are just out to get him. Or begging his dad for money.

I've got a long, long LONG post coming about Mike and Jordan and about NewCon. Stay tuned for a fun little screen cap about what the funds for NewCon2016 were really used for~

>>9399701
I was more concerned about a kool-aid situation.

>>9399706
You'll never believe what the funds were REALLY used for...stay tuned after these messages...

>>9398782
>>9399443

These aren't funny. You can stop.

>>9399673
My bad. Curiosity just got the better of me.

>>9399751
It was worth me getting a (You). Thanks, anon! Here, have a (You) in return. :^)

>>9399797
I heard similar rumblings back when I was more connected to these conventions, but its important to stay focused on the idea that Newcon's leaders are taking money from the convention to live off of, have been since it's inception, and have shit on a lot of people in doing so.

All the personal stories coming up about Jordan and Mike are people feeling comfortable in venting what they have been holding onto throughout those years.

>>9399596
Mike has also outed at least two trans people that I know of, one on multiple occasions. And the other, in response to someone asking if one of our female friends had slept with him, Mike outed him as trans and said "he literally wasn't man enough for her", and then went on to talk about how this person had tried to proposition him, and implied that if he had wanted a better chance with Mike he should have stayed female and that maybe he was regretting transitioning now because it was harder to get guys.

This guy may have legitimate antisocial personality disorder. I don't mean in the colloquial sense of being shy, but literal antisocial personality disorder - the inability to empathize with other people and therefore view them as tools to manipulate and throw under the bus for self gain with no emotional consequence because they may as well be NPCs in a game to you. Just a thought. These are the kinds of people that typically raise to CEO positions and such, because they exploit others for their own gain left and right in a way that no person with a sane conscious could ever do.

>>9399947
Not that any of us are qualified to diagnose anyone here, but it SURE sounds like both Jordan and Mike have some legitimate personality disorders that affect their ability to maintain relationships and operate a business ethically.

Alright! Get ready, ya'll! I got some shit to put out there and AN EXCELLENT GEM, screen capped and all about NewCon 2016 profits and how they were allocated~

See below for 1 of 14

Ok, I’m going to elaborate on the lost year (roughly March 2015-April 2016). Jordan’s ex-friend group have generally been fairly tight-lipped about the whole thing; most of the processing over the split happened privately or among one another. But I think it has a place here, and I’m willing to divulge some details along with everything else coming to light. This will eventually include damning little piece of evidence about how NewCon 2016 funds were appropriated. First, some background. Many people close to this subject know one another and some have even crossed over to our friend group (I can see everyone trying to guess who their friends are that are posting here). But most of you don’t know me, and I don’t know most of you. This is intentional - and I’ll explain why. Personally, I spent a long time in this friend group on the outside looking in. This was largely because of what I eventually came to learn was as a very tactical ostracization on Jordan’s part over a decade ago. After being targeted and demonized by Jordan in high school, I moved away for college - and though I eventually reconnected with everyone, I remained separated by several degrees from friendships that I had once been very close to. The only image of my distantanced friends that I had to go by was one that Jordan had shaped for me through major shit-talking and rumor spreading, both of me to others, and of others to me. Frequently, myself and another friend (the first, close long-term friend I’d ever made), who’d come to bear the brunt of Jordan’s abuse, were pitted against one another in fabricated feuds in which Jordan played both sides. This was in addition to the “normal” shit-talking she’d do behind the backs of her closest friends, goading each of us to do the same of one another without checking in with those people directly. Everything she said was always a >10% truth--
1/14

- there was some part of it that made sense, so we’d believe the rest without going to the source.
Strangely, no one talked shit about Jordan. Later, I would come to learn that this was for fear of what she would do to them. I was made an early example of what would happen to someone if they dared question one of Jordan’s lies or manipulations. Fortunately, I moved away. Unfortunately for everyone else, they were not yet on her open shit list. Yet. Like Mike, Jordan often made herself sound more interesting, compelling and smarter than she really was. I cannot tell you how often I defended her to others, how many times I’ve given her the benefit of the doubt. To your face, one on one, you were her best friend. You can see how this would be believable when you quite literally grew up with her. You “were the only one who understood” and everyone else was out to get her. This remained true until the end. And This. Went on. For years. Jordan was a master manipulator. If gaslighting were a competitive sport, she’d be a nearly undisputed contender for gold. When times were good they were VERY good, but if Jordan had a problem with you or with someone else, your very place in the world was in question. This was what friendship with Jordan was like and we came to learn years later that it was only a love for one another that kept the web from unraveling.

When I moved back, I found that no one was as I’d remembered them. Everyone was quite a lot closer with each other than they were with me, and aside from having been away for college, this was on purpose. To varying degrees, I had been poisoned to them. Nevertheless, as the good-natured and eternally forgiving, loving people are, they were inclusive and generous with me and despite efforts to keep me excluded from many events and activities, it wasn’t long before I’d grown close with them, too.
2/14

Despite the continued shit-talking, abuse, and attempted drama-mongering on Jordan’s part, it seemed that this friend group was experiencing a renaissance of sorts while, at the same time, tensions with Jordan were growing ever more taut. I was fortunate in a sense that I had been put at arm's length for so long. While I felt for what my friends were going through, I knew and sometimes voiced that there was one common source to all of their troubles. But like many in long-term abusive relationships, it's not so easy to see the source of your troubles or that there is a way out. That’s because manipulators and bullshitters are cyclical. They talk and misdirect in circles until you’re confused, frustrated, or just fucking tired. Imagine participating in that kind of relationship for 15 and in some cases almost 20 years!

Enter Mike. I was among those who vaguely met Mike while at SAK 2015 with Jordan and the gang, and he was was waving around his fat stack of cash, repeatedly going on about a bonus from some dentists or something to that effect. I guess most of my friends had already met him prior to this at a party or two. I was never introduced to Mike. Not formally. Jordan didn’t make a point of introducing people to other people, especially if it was someone she didn’t particularly give a shit about to someone for whom she was motivated to befriend. Like I said: There’s a reason you don’t know me and I don’t know you. She was the name-dropping sort. She would randomly start talking about someone, referring to them by name only, as if you were supposed to know who they were and what they were all about. I think it was supposed to either impress you or manipulate you into asking her what the hell she was talking about so she could...well, talk.
3/14

I spent a good fucking year back in Oregon thinking “That’s nice. Who the fuck is Zach Marsh? What the shit is an anime hunter?” I didn’t know and I increasingly didn’t care - though now I’m proud to call some of these name-drops good friends and even more so, good people.

I thought for a brief moment that Mike was good people. The guy was friendly enough at first. He’d made fast, close friends with Jordan soon after SAK (and now we know immediately started going on dates, the day after he broke up with his ex, damn). He blew a lot of money on Jordan as well as on her friends. He would show up and buy whole rounds of drinks for half a dozen people or start a tab and sit and tell us his drama filled tale as well as that FUCKING story about ordering a palette of fireball for the dentist convention. You know that goddamn story. Mike liked to talk, but he also liked to repeat himself. It was grating but forgivable. He seemed cool. Within a week, Jordan and Mike were in-fucking-love. This was Jordan’s dating M.O. She did nothing with subtlety and was quick to seal the deal. It baffled us, her friends, but at the same time the similarities just made sense. Mike and Jordan were alike in many ways and we would soon come to find they were alike in the worst of ways. A few days within their starting to date, Mike reached out to me and told me he was interesting to get to know me better. He said he felt that we were good people and he really liked Jordan and wanted to get to know the people who were important to her. I was...floored. I WAS FLOORED. He didn’t know yet. He must not have known yet. They can’t have have been doing much talking about what was important to Jordan at this point because he didn’t know that I was the farthest from important that anyone in this group could get from Jordan.
4/14

You know how for all of you, Mike would buddy up to you and all the while talk shit about you until there was this weird sense of friendship/enemy vertigo every time you were around one another? Well, Jordan had a similar method - but it was considerably worse for some of us. She had a hierarchy of adjectives, and where you were on that hierarchy determined the amount of shit she would talk about you and how bad that shit would be. She made sure to hold really long and often fabricated grudges to keep that shit fresh. And the adjective that Jordan would reserve for the people who would commit the worst offenses against her (those offenses largely being questioning her, calling her lies or bullshit, asking for her to change her behavior in any way, or approaching another friend about an issue like a fucking adult without her as a go-between [it gets more elaborate in her head the longer it festers]) --that adjective was “Crazy”. If Jordan talked shit about someone and called them “Crazy,” she didn’t mean it to drive home the point that she didn’t like them. She would spend days trying to convince you that that person really was capital “C” crazy. If you were or are ever friends with Jordan, you were at some point, for a time, Crazy. By the end of it, everyone was crazy if you asked Jordan. If you think that she has never done this to you, she has. If you think she never will, she will. The reason that you didn’t know me and I didn’t know you is that I was Crazy.

You can imagine my surprise that Jordan’s new boyfriend was reaching out to me, the Crazy One, to get to know me because he thought that I was important to Jordan. I told Mike “Sure. Let’s meet up.” And he met me at a Starbucks while waiting for Jordan to get out of class and I learned all a-fucking-bout him.
5/14

Got that palette of Fireball story again, a lot of about LARP, the reason his teeth are jacked (we bonded on this as I at the time also had jacked teeth which had been a point of great anxiety for me) and a bunch of other wacky shit, his passion for NewCon blah blah blah. And then I learned all about you: vindictive, gullible, two-faced assholes who, like me, were also...Crazy. Now this touched a nerve. Because even without personally knowing you, it was evident to me that Mike wanted to make damn sure that I knew that you were... Crazy. He was a victim, and you were his victimizers, and the sob story was just TOO familiar for me to feel an ounce of pity for this man. I felt at that moment that eventually Mike and I wouldn’t get along.

From what I remember, after that, Mike was going about trying to get donations to pay the water bill. He said it wasn’t his fault but fuck it he was just going to find a way to pay it anyway. He had apparently been talking about it loudly on the max and some poor stranger woman took pity on him and offered him the money outright to pay this bill. Mike considered it. He got the woman’s contact information and put her on standby while he continued to call around to churches and other charitable organizations trying to scrounge together this money for an astounding $900 water bill. Ultimately, he found a solution that did not involve taking this stranger’s money to all of our immense relief. I don’t know what it was, I don’t care. I just kept wondering where the fuck Mr. Cash-Wad’s cash-wad went. Well, we know now. Jordan spun a lot of sob stories FOR Mike to us as he had suddenly, within less than a month of their dating, moved into Jordan’s place of residence. This was a house owned by Jordan’s at the time oldest friend of nearly 20 years. You might recall earlier in this book when I referred to this group of friends as good-natured and eternally forgiving.
6/14

Well, none were more so than the owner of this house, who elected to give Mike a chance despite being taken advantage of from the GET GO (by stating that maybe they could arrange for him to use the house as a landing pad between getting his own space, and then waking up to him moving all of his stuff in the next day before the other housemates could even be consulted. He would stay for a year.) There was no hesitation to help him. After all, the guy was down on his luck. People were breaking into his room and shit. They were attacking his super cool convention and calling him a thief and a liar. His life was in shambles and he had no friends! And most of all at this point in time, Jordan’s friend still loved her and still wanted to support her so…they did.

If you read all of the posts above, you know what happened next. They spent money on frivolous shit, took lots of Lyfts, ate out damn near every day, and when they didn’t they bought extremely expensive cooking ingredients because Mike just LOVED treating people to good steaks and great food. That’s how he showed he cared, he insisted. By cooking for you. Mike never cooked for me ;). They started going to LARP meetings in Washington every Sunday, having taken complete advantage of another roommate, another old friend of Jordan’s, who happened to have a car and an immense amount of patience. All the while they took advantage of this friend, Jordan would talk mad shit about them to anyone who would listen. Then they absolutely trashed the downstairs of this beautiful house. Jordan had never been the sort to clean, but it became even WORSE after Mike had moved in. It was embarrassing, and made it difficult to stay over after parties or on late night hangouts. The home owner lived in the upper half of the house which was immaculate and understandably off limits, and was effectively pushed out of the common spaces downstairs despite OWNING THEM.
7/14

Here comes my first and decidedly only experience with Mike when it came to money: of the many dramas that Mike was juggling at the time, one of them was this giant beach trip. At some point leading up to this trip, Jordan and Mike must have stopped sucking face and generally grossing everyone the fuck out for long enough to discuss the important things in Jordan’s life. Mike’s buddy-buddy attitude toward me did not last long. Everyone else of course, he was nothing but sociable and as inclusive as a narcissist-with-a-compulsion-to-derail-conversations-not-about-himself could be. That was to say, he remained friendly. When it came to me, however, I was often met with a Dr.Jekyll / Mr. Hyde demeanor. He was friendly with others one moment but if I tried to inject myself into a conversation or address him directly in that moment, I was met with a very sudden and, to be frank, alarmingly blank or distasteful expression. It was as if the guy was suddenly blind and deaf, or perhaps I had miraculously incurred the super power of becoming invisible. At first I wondered if there was something fucking wrong with him, if there was cause to be concerned. Was he stroking out? Perhaps Nam flashbacks. Though the pattern soon became clear to me that this was personal, and realized that Mike must now know that I was Crazy.

Naturally, I was wary of this beach trip after Jordan convinced many of us in her friend group to go. Mike had lost a lot of friends leading up to it. These ex-friends wanted refunds and the house, as he said, had already been booked. It would be fun and a good idea for us to take their place so he didn’t have to eat the cost. Reluctantly, I said I would go. Mike didn’t like me as Jordan had made certain of. That’s ok, but was I going to have fun? I liked my friends and was excited to spend time with them, but honestly I worried that the friends who had thus far remained in Mike’s life were probably just as big of assholes as he was.
8/14

I would recommend that those with firsthand knowledge of Mike's crimes report said crimes to the police. If all of these allegations are true, Mike would be guilty of Negotiating a bad check (2015 ORS 165.065), Falsifying business records (2015 ORS 165.080), Theft by deception (2015 ORS 164.085), and embezzlement (ORS 164.055). If these allegations are true, Mike could be facing five years in prison.

The cost was split up by how long people were going to stay and I said I’d stay the whole weekend and let Mike know I’d pay him the following payday. As payday approached, Mike continued to pretend I didn’t exist despite my pointed “Hellos” and “How are you”s and if he did say anything to me it was about that beach trip money. I brought my share one evening when I’d gone over with another friend to hang out by Jordan’s invitation. It was starting to become a habit for her to just not be there to meet us, sometimes for up to two hours after we’d shown up at the house. I remember being annoyed because I didn’t want to hear it if we missed them. I wasn’t going to just leave it there because I think I already feared that if I had, he would miraculously “not have received it”. Eventually, this night, Jordan and Mike roll in. My friend and I greet Jordan, and they both greet my friend. I pointedly say hello to Mike and he passed by me without a fucking word. But when I say “By the way, I have my share for the beach trip” and the guy whips around still saying nothing, palm up and outstretched like the goddamn monopoly man passing go. He doesn’t even look at me. So I hold the money out to him and he snatched it out of my hand and walks away. This was hilarious to behold but I also couldn’t believe the it. For a guy who reportedly has the nicest parents in the world, I couldn’t believe he’d turned out to be such a complete fucking creature. I never handed him money again.

The beach trip was fun. Jordan and Mike were disgusting, embarrassing to watch, and uncomfortable to be around, but that would never change. Mike’s friends were respectable and cool and I liked them! It was hard to get the duplexes to mingle but Jordan and Mike played an unknowing hand into pushing us together by boiling down a cabbage into mush which stunk out our entire half of the house and forced us into the other. Good people. Fuck that cabbage though.
9/14

Remarkably, despite PDA that was the visual equivalent to squelching sounds, it would SEEM that the beach trip had gone off without a hitch. Seem.

Que Jordan’s first of many mistakes she would make after injecting Mike into our friend group (that wasn’t actually Mike himself), which would eventually result in the severing of ties with most if not all of us. One guess at what it’s about. JUST KIDDING you don’t have to guess. It was money. Money issues weren’t Jordan’s normal drama shtick unless it was to make you feel bad for having it, or make you feel bad for her that she didn’t. We were more accustomed to shit-talking, accusatory dissections of conversations, feeding of misinformation and the catty-like play of each of us against each other. When she brought up a beach house money issue to myself and another friend, we were for a few moments baffled. The short stem of the issues was that two friends had underpaid for the beach house. They’d stayed a day later than they intended to. So, Jordan, on the ride over (which she didn’t pay gas $ for) to the beach house (which she didn’t pay $ to stay at), informs us that these two friends have stiffed Mike for an extra night. Our response was that they would not do that. If they owed more money, they should let them know and they would pay it. Basic communication, essentially. Jordan continued to all but INSIST that these friends were trying to short Mike and were just as bad as his ex-friends. And as we became increasingly uncomfortable with the accusation, we repeated our advice and moved on in the conversation.
10/14

But we already know that Jordan can’t move on. It would seem she also figured that directly communicating with her friends was also out of the question. No big surprise, but she let this fester. And one day, in an offhand remark to another friend about going to a movie together, she said that she didn’t want to go with them, referring to these long time friends of almost 20 years, who evidently still owed Mike money, as “those people.” Well THOSE PEOPLE had never been informed that they’d underpaid for that trip, but because they had, regardless of their awareness, her highness was offended. WHEN they were informed, it was not by Jordan, but by one of US, to which they immediately reached out to Mike, apologized, asked how much they owed and communicated that they had no idea there was an issue - to which Mike replied that neither had he. Classy, classic Jordan. But sloppy!

That was the thing though - she had usually been pretty good at keeping us all from knowing exactly what she’d said to each of us. But after this, there was no recovery. We placated her over the months, knowing through the years of experience the futility of trying to reason with her, though on a number of occasions we still tried. Many of us still gave her the benefit of the doubt. She became increasingly paranoid over the next few months (more so than usual), but not over reasonable things like people finding out where they got their LARP or bullshit money when they didn’t have jobs or pay rent. No. She just couldn’t figure out why no one liked Mike, how he was worried what had happened to him in the Beast House/Dai Gurren or whatever would happen again. We needed to include him more and have him around more often!!
11/14

See, we were getting fucking sick of hanging out with the UNIT that was Jordan and Mike. It was gross, and they often pouted in corners and pretended people were alienating them despite our attempts to engage them (for which we were equally rebuked). Jordan refused to do anything with anyone if Mike wasn’t there. And it was fucking creepy. They tried to start more rumor mills about us to one another but it was ineffective. They even turned to visiting out-of-town friends to rant to - who were quick to shut that shit down. This was coupled with several meltdowns on Jordan’s part that had expedited the widening of the rifts that were growing between her and her friends - attacking them one by one more openly over whatever she came up with at the time. I think at this point, they had taken advantage of or excluded so many of the core group that Jordan’s time old tactics had worn off and we had all begun communicating with each other, piecing together 14 years’ worth of lies and misdirections, and gradually painting a clear picture for everyone of what exactly was going on.

Meanwhile, Jordan had gotten a job. It had been handed to her by an old college friend, had a menial salary, but it was largely a paycheck, more than someone might make in retail, for doing almost nothing. She sat on a computer and wrote a newsletter. Rent picked back up for a little while, but Jordan just couldn’t fucking get over how Crazy her boss was. Every day it was the same thing over and over about why she hated her job (and she sure had a lot of time to chat online while she was working). It was hard to sympathize because it was a fucking job, doing less for more than a lot of people could say. It was almost as if Jordan had never had a damn boss before. News flash, Jordan. All bosses are Crazy. They all suck. You get the fuck over it and get paid.
12/14

This was in December almost January. Newcon was either upon us or not far off. I told her myself that that was a bad idea. And her excuse once again had my floored.

See the attached image. Her excuse was that it would be alright and that she wouldn’t have to find another job for a long time because by the time NewCon was over they would have 11K in funds and that at the moment they had 4.5K. This turned out to be that business loan Mike had taken out against NewCon. He still didn’t have a job, mind you. I knew right then and there that everything that anyone had said about Mike had been true. Still, we debated it among ourselves, most chalking his criminal activity up to ignorance and stupidity instead of calculation and intent. We all know now that it was the latter. Sure enough, after NewCon they’d started paying rent on time again. Jordan never did find another job. At this point they’d strained their living situation so irreparably that they were soon asked to move out and were given a hard deadline (which they would later stretch, of course). Nevertheless, they went to more conventions and brought people they liked with them and chalked it up as a business expense. When SAK rolled around again we didn’t want to room with them. They were unbearable as a couple and drama continued to follow them wherever they went. A few of us booked our own room, letting Jordan’s hissy fits about being excluded AGAIN and how she knew we didn't like them, roll off in the anticipation of a truly fun weekend. We took comfort in that we had not paid Mike any money to “book a hotel room.” He had tried to do this a number of times over the course of the year, for a number of events, and had always managed to take people’s money - but to inevitably fuck it up in some manner. The con was fun, but Jordan just couldn’t help herself.
13/14

She started the weekend off by attacking one of her friends so awfully that said friend cancelled their hotel/plans entirely and didn’t join us. She began vague-posting about bullies (us) and the importance of not bullying people, specifically citing activities we’d done, jokes we’d made on Facebook, and when we called her out for once again twisting events, she flat out denied that any of it was geared toward us. She was forgiven, not out of belief, but out of pure fatigue (though I was in a rage to be having this discussion AGAIN with my friends about how enough was enough). I all but stopped speaking to Jordan at this point. Her lying, manipulating and abuse of her friends was no longer bearable. As such, we stopped bearing it. When they’d finally moved out, two weeks after their initial move out date (which was due to - you guessed it! - insufficient funds,) no one ever saw them as friends again.

Shortly before their moving out, Jordan had been confronted about her lack of respect for the people and household around her. Her rumor fabrication and abuse of her oldest friend had finally come to bite her in the ass. Jordan, who’d probably only done this sincerely this one time in her life, apologized for her behavior; Mike as well, but how fucking often does Mike ever mean an apology? Jordan was sorry. She was sorry that she had been careless and sloppy and that her years of careful maintenance had fallen so far to the wayside that the grass died. After they moved out, in a half-assed effort to keep their friends, Jordan and Mike reached out and apologized to a handful of the core friend group. Naturally, as the Crazy one, I was not worth the trouble. It didn’t work. Everyone was done, and they didn't bother trying to prove that they’d really meant the sentiments in their cookie-cutter apologies.
13.5/14

See, Mike and Jordan are the same beast. But Mike’s manipulations are out of greed, and he uses it as a means to an end. Jordan’s assertion of control over her friends was perhaps her only true aspiration. It was the only thing she ever endeavored to or worked hard at. Mike is a sloppy, lazy con artist and Jordan, lazy in her own right, had taken a liking to the path of least resistance. Her selfishness and Mike’s appetite for indulgence and neglect for responsibility is what really cost them in the end. Mike’s latent mistakes and assumption that he had escaped consequence, coupled with encouragement from Jordan really called attention to them.

Jordan would sometimes say that meeting Mike was the best thing that had ever happened to her, while in reality, it’s probably the worst. You may think that Jordan meeting Mike was the worst thing that ever happened to US. But in truth, it was the best. It finally put an end to the suffering of literally a dozen or more people under one person’s systematic abuse of that group of people. And we got to keep and strengthen all of our friendships -- the one thing she didn’t wanted us to have above all else.
14/14

>>9399992
Wow, that was certainly one hell of a trip. I was riding my seat as the story progressed. Hearing about your journey with them has helped me out considerably. I wish I did know who you were, because I would totally get you a drink!

>>9399992
Thank you for sharing this. Mike had behavior like this when I lived with him in the original beast house (Hi Mike, you're cancer!) and seeing this happen to other people breaks my heart. I may be compelled to tell some stories myself and corroborate others in both threads. But I'll put things simply for now: he's a central reason why I've had to get a psychiatrist.

>>9399992

I almost became a roommate, lucky that didn't work out.

>>9399978
I'm just making sure you get visibility on this, because it got buried in the other anon's story and it's also something people need to do.

>>9399992
Thankyou so much for sharing your story. And holy shit as a former roommate of Mike's you fuckin NAILED the description of his personality. I would shake your hand and buy you a drink if I could. I'm sorry you had to go through years of that shit, but I'm glad everyone is better off now.

>>9400023
Thx for promoting this. It is so important that these things don't just become another piece of drama in their lives. If these things are true, these people are criminals and will leave a wake of destruction in their path. No more people need be victimized.

>>9400041
I know firsthand that many of these claims are true. Now, can I prove them beyond any reasonable doubt? Not really. Do I have money to sue him in civil court? Not really. This is how he was able to get away with stealing over $1000 from all of his roommates. All the bills were in his name, we can't get them to prove the lies. As for the insurance fraud, it was reported. Company said they'd investigate it, to my knowledge nothing came of that either. We tried. I can only hope that maybe other people have solid proof of all his other crimes in regards to NewCon.

>>9400050
I might try to present what you do have to the police anyway. Since there have been so many individuals victimized, the police can subpoena any financial records if they have probable cause. Probable cause is normally testimony of an eyewitness. If it crosses the threshold of criminal complaint, they will definitely prevent further victimization. In essence, it is not your job to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. That is the prosecutor's job.

>>9400061
Anyone know if you can report this kind of crime anonymously? It may call into
question the legality of how people ended up with certain documents (not sure saying they found opened mail in a private space of Mike's house would hold up and they wouldn't be charged with illegally opening the mail to incriminate him).

>>9400080
http://www.crimestoppersoforegon.com/

might be a start

>>9400080
-The mail notifying him of the insurance check was dated for march 23.
-The con he spent all the money at was in April
-The photos we took are time stamped May 15th

The mail was open for 2ish months.

>>9400106
photo of timestamp~

>>9400112
Mmmm juicy Picture, really going to fuck him over when the Insurance company finds out he committed Fraud!

Also if he wanted to bring up opening mail and any bullshit he'd also have to explain an insurance claim on a robbery in a house with a dozen tenets who were all unaware they were "burglarized" lmao

>>9399661
How credible is the Tanis stuff though?
I remember Mike being the one calling him "Uncle Touchy" about stuff he did like 2010-ish or earlier.
But that was all before I entered the con scene.

>>9399988
Did anyone else see this screen cap in Anon's massive post?

>>9400114
Top bad it was reported and nothing happened! He's good a dodging shit like this.

That Screencap is anon's long post is super telling. Don't let it get buried.

>>9400119
Tanis doesn't remember doing any of it because he was almost never Sober when he did the shit he did.

Seems to be a fashionable trend with scum at the cons. Use drugs/alcohol as a means to be out of it and then fuck up other peoples lives.

Damn, there should be a list of people to watch out for at cons. Mike and Jordan taking the top.

>>9400135
Well Next to that DJ Victor Malice guy that caused the entire Akicon Fiasco with being an unregistered Sex offender that liked fucking little girls.

Surprised the Mike wasn't buddy buddy with that guy, they seem to have similar tastes. "Impressionable and Don't know Any Better" - Or "Drunk as fuck and almost impossible to say No"

Get this vendetta shit out of here. Talk about Mike and the con, otherwise the thread will get deleted. Bring your Tanis shit to lolcow.

>>9400159
Considering this entire series of threads could be a 'vendetta'... Don't see how it matters.

>>9400170

Tanis has nothing to do with Newcon. She doesn't even go anymore cause of fallout with Mike.

>>9400170
Because things related to Mike are actually relevant to all of us considering we should stick up for one another when a scammy con like this comes around. Learning more about his scummy nature, as a person, puts forth more reason to get this guy's con shut down. Some random nobody who's just loosely related to the con scene is of no fucking importance.

We're going after the kingpin here, not his lackies/buttbuddies/whatever the fuck the literal who Tanis is. This is less about taking a person down and more about taking a shitty scammy con down and getting Wunderwelt their money back.

Unless Tanis is somewhat relevant to bringing this whole thing down, keep that shit out of here.


That's where it's different.

Wow.

If nothing else, Anon's long post is an amazing read? Its well written and to anyone who doesn't know these people its actually really educational. That bit about Mike considering to taking that strangers money to pay the water bill is....wow...

Read it if you like a good story. But also you guys! Read it because Jordan says something about NewCon 2015 funds that seems very telling and pretty damning. This is some good information.

I'm married to one of Mike's exce's.

He was thirty when she was sixteen when they got together so there is that. Also, he would steal funds from his larp club to buy cosplay and all this went down before him and chip and Bressler came up with newcon. I feel bad for Chip and Jon. They could have had me for a friend. Loyal, honest, fun. Instead they got Mike. Greedy, dramatic, attention seeking and dishonest. Hahahahahahahahahaha

>>9400170
Getting the dirt on Mike is important to destroying his con. If this was just about Mike, as a person being a total creeper, then that shit can stay on lolcow.

Tanis may have been noteworthy if he was some serial rapist in the con scene and the threads were about informing your fellow gulls about him and getting others to speak up to get him justice. But as far as I can tell, that isn't the case.

So instead, please use this thread to warn fellow gulls about Mike - the person who has burned a lot of gulls here personally, stole from Wunderwelt, and is a cancer to the con scene because he literally runs a con. What does Tanis run, Meatspin.com?

>>9399980
lmao, I was one of the people from Mike's old group of friends that attended the beach trip.
That stupid fucking cabbage - we felt bad for you guys.

Seriously though, it was such an awkward weekend.
A lot of us there knew there was drama around Mike, but not many details. I know half of us lived far outside of Portland, so weren't too involved.
All of us were thinking about it, but didn't want to bring it up and dampen the mood, because fuck it, we were at the beach and going to enjoy the moment.

Think that was the first weekend I noticed Mike's change in personality.
Usually he was one of the most talkative people, and acted friendly. But on the beach trip I hadn't seen him in months, and he was quiet and seemed distant.
Just sat with Jordan and bragged about how she was getting her bachelor's (in arts & letters btw), and how she was so amazing and was going to change the world.

>>9399992
Jesus - wondered what happened with your group in the year following the beach trip, since that was the last time I heard from pretty much any of you.
Glad to hear both your and our groups seem to be slowly picking up the pieces.

>>9400005
S A M E
Before Dai Gurren, he invited me to live with him and one other, but he decided he wanted a big party house like Beast House before the apartment he lived in at the time.
I figured nothing good could've come from 10 cosplayers all living under the same house, hosting a party every 6 weeks.

On another Mike note, if you were useful to him in any way he would butter you up and pay for all your shit (god knows where the money came from....oh wait, no we do know) Though those people always knew when their usefulness was coming to an end because he'd start guilting you for how much money he's spent on you, and he would eventually start openly mocking you. He would start the shit talking behind your back pretty early though, because he wanted to isolate them so he could drain them all by himself. He wasn't about to share his victims or give them an out. Still sloppy though, I'm surprised he thought he could, at least effectively, keep doing that to people without those people finding out eventually.

Hey. I'm Tanis. I got nothing to do with this. Mike trashed my apartment when I kicked him out, he spread the Uncle Touchy shit about me afterwards. I've long since kicked my drinking habit and I'm five years sober. I've never done anything inappropriate to anyone, and although I may have my faults, I'm trying to be an upstanding pillar of the community. I have no stake in NewCon, I never went.

I know/have met Tanis on several occasions over the years and although they can be a shitlord at times, they're a light breeze compared to the shitstorm running newcon.
Also, she's always been one of the more vocally outspoken about Mike being a shitstorm, so incredibly unlikely that she's involved.
Let's stay on topic.

I forgot I can tripcode.

I can help you take him apart. In fact, I've been helping.

I'm sorry for everyone I ever hurt. I'm trying to be a better person. Me coming up out of the blue in this thread indicates I have a reputation. I'm sorry that I've caused people grief in the past. I'm getting better all the time. Thank you for understanding.

Also, please use female pronouns with me. Thank you.

>>9400223
>>9400213

This honestly makes me suspicious that Mike or Jordan are behind the posts about Tanis, as a way of moving the goal posts in this thread and distracting people from all the shit they've done...

>>9400210
Mike literally bought friendships. It turned out that a bunch of people who went on that beach trip didn't pay for it. Though Jordan's friends sure fucking did. The people who didn't pay for it were given a pass because if they couldn't afford it then no one would come. They didn't even know that Jordan's friend group (Minus Jordan and Mike) had born the brunt of that cost.

I'm honestly not sure how I was even brought up in here. All I know is that Mike needs to fucking languish in a federal prison. It's how they caught Capone, you know.

SHUT THE FUCK UP THEN! About this off topic fucker! Just stop. Move on. We just got this thread back on topic.

>>9400257
Don't forget the people who paid deposits and then got blocked by Mike to never see their money again. I think I gave Mike 200$ for some reason.

>>9400205
You guys were lovely people. I still see some of you now and again for occasional board game nights. Seriously, reach out any time!

You weren't missing anything productive with Mike's drama. Honestly, you were better off for not asking.

>>9400242
Help then. Give us whatever info you have that is relevant and useful to take Mike down.

>>9400290

I already did in the first part.

>>9399998
I'm glad it could help. Its always nice knowing that for all the times you felt alienated by these people there was always a handful more people who put in your same boat. You're not Crazy!
And thank you! Perhaps one day we'll meet.
>>9400001
Honestly, these threads have not only mean a method of collecting information but of also purging. If you feel compelled to share by all means do.
>>9400032
Mike was a god damn trip to be around, especially if he didn't like you. It was funny in many ways but I get the impression that long term exposure (aka living with or not being able to avoid seeing him) was not fucking funny at all. I said it to someone else who also offered to buy a drink but thanks! Perhaps the more people are coming out from under NewCon, the more of us will meet and not have these two blights among us to poison the interactions.

I'm not using my trip when posting anything damning. I don't want him to know what I know.

>>9399988
They had $4k but couldn't afford to get Staff shirts or pocket guides?

>>9400313
YUP. They had 4k that should have ONLY been allocated toward things like that or else using it was illegal. It was a Paypal Business loan and they were living off of it. Mike paid to have the lean on his licence taken off, and apparently that's what they were paying rent with. Not to mention the 5 people they took to ALA after Newcon on Newcon's dime. Jordan all but says outright in that screen cap that she was quitting her job because that Newcon money would be spent sustaining and entertaining them.

>>9400312
Anything you have on him... please share it. Go on anon if you have to. But please post what you know and the evidence you have.

>>9400340

I already did, in part 1.

There hasn't been a post on the group in a few days. I bet Mike and Jordan are approving any posts before they show up.

>>9400348
Probably. They also haven't been posting on their personal accounts.

>>9399978

All this talk of him using Paypal as a bank account and involving his insurance fraud money makes me wonder if there's a case for money laundering against him. The fraudulent Paypal business loan is another one I'm curious about. But I'm not a lawyer, I just browse legaladvice way too much.

I can guarantee they're probably laying low until this blows over. But this shouldn't blow over. There needs to be real consequences to some pretty despicable actions. I hope the calls to the IRS aren't a dead end.

>>9399992
Wow.. Thank you so much for all the care and detail you put into this. Reading this is actually helping me heal a bit. As a former roommate from the dai gurren house I always wondered what happened after Mike moved out and how it affected your group. Honestly I expected him to lie low and be on his best behavior in order to discredit us, but it seems like he didn't change a bit. I had a vague idea of what Jordan was like from how she treated one of my roommates in the past, but hearing the extent of it here is just astounding. You are all so strong dealing with that for so long and I have nothing but respect for all of you. If anything good came out of this whole situation it's that Mike ditching us and latching onto Jordan finally destabilized her control enough to let you guys take back your freedom. I couldn't be happier for you and I hope we can meet someday and swap some stories :)

>>9400411
This made me tear up a bit. I'm also one of the friends in Jordan's former group. Thank you. It still doesn't feel real to be free sometimes. I'm sorry for everything you must've had to deal with, too.

>>9400411
Also a former friend in the group mentioned. Thank you for saying that, the support was absolutely everything while severing ties. I still have stress dreams about her, and I'm still hugely effected by the years of abuse and manipulation, but I'm so much better now that I've washed my hands of that toxic situation. I'm sorry you had to deal with Mike and go through all that too. They are without a doubt, one in the same. I'm glad everyone here has managed to remove these people from their lives, and to anyone reading that's still friends with them, I don't blame you. I stuck around for fourteen years. And I hope that they don't do the same to you that they've done to all of us.

>>9399992
As one of Jordan's other "crazy"s, this was interesting to read and hit pretty close to home haha. Thanks for sharing your story with us.

This is another story from one of Jordan's former friends.

I was an exec at Newcon 4 in a small department. Everything went fine, no problems at the con - that I was aware of.

After the con, Jordan was singing my praises. She asked if I wanted to stay on permanently. I of course was flattered, so I agreed to stay on in my position. Later, Mike made a post asking which execs we're staying on and I mention that I was. All of a sudden Mike starts saying that he doesn't know if they'll even need me at all, or if my position will still even be a thing. I'm confused, but say I'm available to help on whatever capacity.

A few weeks after the con there is a exec dinner to celebrate and thank us for a successful con. (Which was a shit show itself. Mike told us to meet at a restaurant that didn't take reservations at like 6:30 on a Saturday. 15 people, no reservation. Dumb.) At the dinner, they discuss the restructuring of the exec system. Jordan was suddenly #2 in the con structure, answering only to Mike and my position was suddenly her assistant. Something I want thrilled about, but didn't really care enough to make a complaint.

I work most weekends so I wasn't going to make it to any meetings, and I was also getting to the point where I didn't care. Mike and Jordan were pissing me off and I wasn't that psyched on helping out. Que the drama mentioned above by one of my dear friends, and I'm out. Done with Newcon. Done with Mike and Jordan.

I don't exactly quit my position. I just fade away from all the social media groups. I figured this was a statement in itself. Better than me sending a note or a message, because I couldn't bring myself to have any further contact with them.
(1/2)

>>9400182
Jon's good people. Worked with him for a while. Sad he ever had to deal with this piece of shit.

Cut to Newcon 5. I am friends with some guests who put on a lot of panels at Newcon, and I help them with one. As much as I didn't want to go to Newcon or be around that convention, I still want to help my friends. I've put money into this panel and I am in charge of one section of it. Mike is given the names of people who are part of the panel months in advance; these people receive free badges for being apart of this group. There were no reported problems until an hour before the panel begins.

On my way to the con (my plan was literally do the panel and get the fuck out - I didn't want to see either of them), I start getting messages from my friends that they are having trouble getting my badge. Mike said I'm not allowed to have a badge because I am redlisted. Because I quit my position and didn't tell anyone. Which, to be fair, I did do. But why the hell did he wait until 1 hour before the panel to mention this? My friends eventually get him to give me a badge. They'd given him the list of names months ago, he could have given them time to train a replacement. And he keeps insisting that this isn't personal... yeah right.

Also quick story. Last SAK, Mike said I could go for free because I was an exec; he said he'd put my name on a list. I spend all the money for the trip, get all the way up there (staying in their room of course), but when I go to get my badge my name isn't on any list. And the name under my position is someone who wasn't even on staff, he was just one of Mike's friends. Luckily, I had a picture of my exec badge so I was able to get one. Otherwise I would have been shit out of luck.

(2/2)

This thread is amazing. Being friends with an ex of his in Washington, I don't doubt the validity of any of this. It's the exact same behavior and questionable monetary situations I had witnessed in the past, only I assumed the cash--that he freely spent on his friends--was due to the fact he never allowed his (employed) girlfriend to spend her own money. At least, not without the threat of a mental/emotional breakdown.

I never identified as a friend and rarely was even friendly, but I witnessed him disparaging every single person in his friend group; I'm truly sorry for those he did that to--he could be quite brutal behind someone's back, then in front of their face if they no longer fulfill a need for him. In LARP he was notorious for screaming at new players and some established players who had cognitive abnormalities.

It would also seem there's a discrepancy in funds from a shoddily run LARP event last summer, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out.

I never met the current (?) girlfriend, but reading this, it seems they are peas in a pod.

Here's what gives me comfort: someday, all the Mike/Jordan/Newcon bullshit will be a distant memory. They'll get caught and sent to court. Or they'll flee the state to torture a whole new group of people. Or they'll fade into the obscurity and mediocrity they deserve.

I'm from the Jordan group. After the two of them were purged from our circle, for months our gatherings would turn into trauma support. "Here's what she said about you." "Oh, and then he did this." "I can't believe they did that to you." Months. It was exhausting.

And then, we got over it. Their bullshit faded away. These last few months have been so happy and freeing when we're together. We don't have the bipolar timebomb armed to ruin any happiness she doesn't grant. I'm seeing friendships blossom and grow stronger now that the toxic cloud of these two has dissipated.

For those of you still reeling from the mind games, mental abuse, and physical trauma: you will heal. And there is a legion of other survivors here to embrace you.

And to Jordan and Mike, because I know you are lapping up every word and turning it into toxic waste: we will stop caring about you. This thread will quiet down and disappear into the Internet black hole. Even if you don't get what you deserve, you'll end up turning into a hazy memory. We'll forget your mediocre writing and awkward singing and pathetic excuses for friendship. You'll become the occasional spontaneous story as we celebrate milestones. And we are much better off.

And if you get arrested we'll have a rager of a party because fuck you both.

>>9400427
>>9400418
Aww thank you guys, it really was hard and I think the worst part is all the warning signs were there but I didn't want to acknowledge them. It's definitely been a struggle to NOT beat myself up over that, but these kind of people use our loyalty and kindness against us, and those are things I like about myself so I'm learning to put the blame where it belongs, with the abuser. I'm glad we can support each other now, and that our stories and stories from people outside our groups may be able to help those who are still friends with them see the truth. Sending big hugs over the internet to you both!

>>9400455
"And if you get arrested we'll have a rager of a party because fuck you both.'

Want to make a Convention out of it?

>>9400459
Jailcon2017!!

>>9400471
Might I suggest ConConPDX

>>9400472

Sweet Snorlax YES

>>9400472
Good one boo

Jailcon2017: don't bring coke or Mountain Dew because it might summon Mike.

I hope people don't let this just blow over. Every year, something like this has happened and mike has explained it away, but we can't let that happen again.

>>9400478
Exactly. They don't deserve to be able to scam people out of their money again.

>>9398095
>>9398064
How the heck do you guys know so much about this? What if they just did their own show, its not like the CWF owns the formula.

>>9400487
They called it CWF and copied their panel description word for word tho

>>9400487
Obviously people close to the situation are willing to share what they saw and heard. That's how everyone here knows what they are saying. That and people who were close to it previously.

>>9400477
Mike doesn't drink Mtn Dew he prefers Diet Dr Pepper and drinks it all day long and never brushes his teeth

>>9400490
It's called New Cosplay Wrestling
http://www.newconpdx.com/new-cosplay-wrestling/

Meanwhile here's the description

>Have you ever wanted to experience the thrills and drama of Professional Wrestling? The admiration of the crowd, the shocking twists, and magnificent feuds?

>Well this year at NEWCON PDX 5 we’re proud to introduce the formation of the Hottest Promotion this side of SoCal: NEW COSPLAY WRESTLING!

>NCW is the future of cosplay, NCW the future of wrestling, NCW is plainly, the future!

>We’re seeking participants with the passion and heart to take home the gold and become the first ever NCW HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION of the UNIVERSE.

>(fine print: this event contains no actual wrestling and is a fun blend of being in cosplay character, but if they were a wrestler. Cut promos, call people out, become a champion!)

The CWF uses a completely different writing style and description

Am I the only one outside the Portland convention community following this because man

>>9400587
Nope, sitting here from Texas with popcorn.

>>9400587
No. I don't even know who the hell these people are but these are some good stories.

>>9400587
In PDX but I haven't cosplayed or been to a con since 2012.
I saw the callout posts on FB and just knew I had to come back. Ya'll never disappoint.

I'm still friends with several people who lived in the Dai Gurren house, and I watched all this shit unfold for several years. I was never involved in it, but acted as a vent utensil for several of the roommates because Mike is just such a piece of work. Now we're sitting back and watching this all unfold, as if some evil spirit is finally so close to being exorcized out of our lives.

Also, I worked with him back in 2013-ish, and he would always message me over our IM client about how awful everyone else around him was, and how he was the only one doing any sort of productive work.

Honestly, if he even has the nerve to show his ugly bean-tooth face at Sak, I might chase after him.

I've been thinking about posting for a while, because I was one of the first people Mike treated like shit in the first Beast House. Therein lies the problem, if you're in the community, it's pretty easy to figure out who I am, and defeating the purpose on the whole anon thing, But, fuck it, I've been patient for a long time, and I love this community.

I'm not going into detail about Jordan. I've had a total of two interactions with her, one in person (where I didn't know who she was, but she knew who I was), and an interaction online where I made mention of not going to Newcon, and she was happy to hear I wasn't going. To all of here friends who have posted here - all I gotta say is I'm sorry you had to endure her crap.

I'm really just going to share tidbits and confirm a few things, because like I did say in another post, a lot of his ostracizing and lies nearly drove me to suicide once, and eventually led me to getting a psychiatrist.

-I can confirm the BFF story from the last thread. that anon and I had planned earlier that day to hang out because we were both having bad days. They had come over often with no previous issues. I remember Mike LOSING HIS MIND over her being over when I even let him and the other roommate know, and he didn't raise any objections. I ended up having them leave and Mike began to scream at me, and I screamed back at him much louder. He was not expecting this, in fact he was flabbergasted, and stormed out. At the party in question regarding the abuse, my ex ended up staying up the night with this person (admittedly, I was very intoxicated and had passed out by this point)

-I'm tempted to believe him getting held up near the Beast House and losing his wallet isn't true.

-Mike has spread a lot of lies about me, some that were pretty awful. One included destroying the performance group I had created by saying I was going to kick him out because I wanted to fuck his (at the time) girlfriend - this lie pretty much ostracized me.

(1/?)

-Lies (cont'd): Mike's spread some other things about me, but as I've been discovering most of them are hilariously ridiculous. Thanks anon for the hair model story - I've not laughed that hard in years.

-Mike absolutely pits people against one another. I instantly lost a lot of CLOSE friends I'd had for YEARS because people bought into his lies. It's pretty great, because the past couple of years, he's terrified to look me in the eye at conventions.

-Mike purposefully tried to plan a party around a charity event that I had planned MONTHS in advance, and something that at one point he was really interested in partaking of. When I called him out on it, his response was to try and kick me out. He gave me 30 days notice, and my ex and I were out in 2, because fuck giving him any more rent money. He and I made up over this through a mutual friend, because I tend to be a forgiving person.

-Mike unfriended me over facebook once because I made fun of Homestuck. Which, by the way, I only suspect he got into because it was the cool thing that all the teenagers were doing, and the cool thing he wanted to do was the teenagers. I think the only relationship I saw him in with someone well into their 20s was an ex who posted in the old thread.

-One thing that it seems nobody HAS brought up about mike is conversations with him. And by that I mean you're having a conversation with him either one on one or in a group - he tries to take control of the conversation by talking LOUDLY OVER PEOPLE. Amplify this shit by 10 if he was drunk.


I stopped supporting Newcon after the third one because it was obvious their attendance wasn't great. I'm fucking glad Mike is burning, and maybe this community can finally start to really repair the fucking swath of damage he's done to it. I'd argue that Mike's presence turned the PDX community from open and welcome and put it dangerously close to adversarial. Fuck him.

>>9400593
You're so transparent lol

Oh, and I was the one making an attempt to swipe up Newcon's business license, but there was a little too much of a legal grey area that it wasn't worth it. I am working on a con to replace Newcon, because I honestly think if Anime PDX happens at this point it'd be a goddamn miracle. I'll say much I'm making DAMN sure the shit that's happening to Newcon right now does not fucking happen if this con become more than the ever-building idea it currently is.

All that said, I am a bit grateful for Mike's existence - I used to be a heavy drug user like he (I assume still) is, and seeing what he's doing feels like that that could have been me if I continued down that road. So thanks for being a beacon of what not to be Mike. If there's anything positive I can say about you at this point, it's that. I'm never going to forgive you for the shit you did to me, or anyone else.

>>9400668
You know that people are scared of you, right, John? I'm all for a new convention, but please stay far away from it, you fucking predator. You're the nice guy neckbeard Tyrone.

>>9400668
Jon. Fixed that 4 u.

>>9400679
You know what? I'll address that.

I admittedly piggybacked on Mike's behavior at the time and that was absolutely wrong of me. I'm getting the help I needed for that (along with the other shit Mike put me through) and realizing that's not how you treat people. That's all I can say to that. I regret being shitty to people and I own that.

>>9400684
What does Mike have to do with you being terrifying?

>>9400689
Because I made the choice that his behavior was okay and to a degree thought that's how I needed to act to be accepted. Look, I can't convince you of that here and you and I both know that. But know I am trying to turn my shit around and not be that person anymore. You can either believe it or not, dude.

>>9400692
This isn't a therapy session, who cares? You're the wrong person to start a convention if the goal is to avoid people toxic to the community.

>>9400692
>>9400695

please keep on topic guys. we need a linear thread about newcon, not personal vendettas about people who may or may not replace newcon.

>>9400701
Can't stay silent when someone as bad as him joins in with the actual victims

>>9400668
Really looking forward to replacementcon. Please do Portland proud

>>9399978
Not to mention his cocaine use, which is good enough to get a warrant for the rest of his house, which would lead to more charges.

>>9400609
A fellow inmate from Xerox? When did you escape?

>>9400175
Seriously, stop trying to derail the thread by talking about Tanis or anyone not involved in this, guys. For fucks sake.

>>9400692
Stop trying to convince people youve changed and just be. Actions speak a lot louder than words and you're just full of mouth

>>9400609
I forgot about the night he claimed he was robbed.

Also anon, I do know who you are mine also gave my identity away very easily.

When the fall out happrned he told me something along the lines of "when she fucks up the relationship again you will be waiting and will take his side" that's how he pitted me against you

>>9400949
Meant to link >>9400615

>>9400708
This. I know it's a thread about Newcon, but when abusers come in under the guise of being a victim it just derails the momentum.

We are all glad that all the sexual predators feel rehabilitated through therapy, and I hope you continue on that path and have a fulfilling life, but maybe don't hang out at an event with teenagers for your entire adult life and let a new crowd of kids take over.

You can still enjoy the shit you like, you can even go to conventions if that's your bag, but you don't have to be some kind of mentor when you are are a recovering predator.

>>9400587
>>9400599
Hell yeah.

>>9400587
Watching with popcorn from Washington

>>9400587
I'm from goddamn South East Asia and I'm here with snacking on mango salad while reading this.

This thread is full of newfags who just drifted here due rock the uproar. learn how to work the website and keep shit on topic or leave

>>9401065
To* rock not due rock. Wtf

I just wish drama with Mike hadn't caused me to lose several good friends. I could care less about how he runs his shitty con, because thanks to him I don't go to cons anymore.

>>9400679
>>9400689
>>9400695
>>9400708
Sounds like you're the one scared of him for some dumbass reason. Make your own thread to go cry about it. Keep this shit on topic. This is about Mike and Jordan and their involvement with Newcon.

This thread I why I left Portland, you people love drama way more than you love actually improving your own lives. I only met Mike a couple of times but recognize some of you and this blame game is hilarious.

Just realize the rest of the community is laughing at your whole city and feasting on your salt ;P

>>9401081
I feel it's somewhat worth it to mention the toxicity and nastiness of jon and tanis to highlight what a hostile community it is; a hostile and tense communnity is the perfect breeding ground for Mike and Jordan's brand of scumbaggery. They thrived because the way was paved for them by creeps like jon, and tanis had already set a precedent of avoiding all accoutability by relying on blaming mental health and stress for all the abusive bullshit he pulled in the comm. This context is important, not to distract from Mike, but to highlight how he was able to get his claws dug in all over a state-wide community.

>>9401097
...and us here in Portland AREN'T?! this shit is amazing and is making my fucking week. Hue hue hue gibe me your salts!

>>9401065
>>9401068
>newfag defense.
>let's keep on topic, guys, come on! :^)

>>9401095
Stay gone, friendo. Stay gone.

>>9401081
>stop complaining about people I don't care, reeeeeee

Nice bait guys, you got a (You) outta me.

Y'all are just mad because the parties suck now, admit it. Your drama killed the party.

>>9401107
Not true, people still have a lot of fun. There are still very caring and supportive people in the convention community in the PNW. We work hard to clean up the messes others leave, and to guide the new congoers towards a bright future in their chosen goals.

>>9401098
You're grasping at straws. You feel like it's worth mentioning because Jon and Tanis apparently did something to hurt your feelings and you're trying to use this thread as your soapbox, because people are actually paying attention to shit here. Go cry about it in your own thread and keep your "but other people hurt me" shit out of this one.

>>9401108
Nope. No one over 25 in this thread is actually relevant to the PNW scene still, which is why Newcon is full of teenagers and young kids not poisoned by your oldfag drama. How they are able to enjoy a con with so little content is beyond me, but they have a good time.

>>9401112
I would beg to differ considering the number of people I still talk to an help on a daily basis. My group at con is well known as a safe space for people, no matter the age, to retreat in case they need a space to regain themselves.

Honestly I've never really been around Mike or Jordan but all of this explains why there was a uncomfortable vibe in the air killing the con scene. It never exactly felt right. Glad the pieces are coming together

>>9401111
>complaining about calling out abuse in a thread about calling out abuse.
Hi Mike!

>>9401126
This right here. It's not about the attendees who are just looking for a fun weekend, it's about the staffers who are getting woke and walking away. Hopefully someone can host a new con for the younger crowd to keep doing what they wanna do without all the high level money fuckery.

>>9401126
Oh my god you're not that important stop derailing this thread with your white knight bullshit, creep

>>9401107
ok mike, your parties were never good but ok

>>9401111
GUYS YOU CAN COMPLAIN ABOUT HITLER, BUT YOU HAVE TO START A NEW THREAD ABOUT MUSSOLINI AND TOJO

>>9401142
White knight? Is there a female form of a knight? Sorry, but you're a bit off in your assumption. Not sure who you think I am, but far from a creep.

>>9401135
The staffers across many cons really do care, and a lot of the ones that walked away from Newcon may start something depending on what they can figure out. I have already heard several of my close associates talking about setting up a new con - they just have to figure a few things out first. It's not easy. I've seen, on the staff side, the birth of three conventions in the PNW. It takes a lot of work.

Someone archive this thread now that a bunch of you have filled it up with irrelevant bullshit.

>>9401097
Us in Portland are soaking this shit up - everyone's been posting about it and publically denouncing their support of the con, or telling their personal stories of Mike.
It's everywhere on my newsfeed on FB right now.

>>9401107
The last good party was the Dai Gurren housewarming / toga party over three years ago.
Things like the Lodge Trip or some of the parties out on the town were great, but all of that was like 2012-14.

>>9401157
Everything on /cgl/'s automatically archived to Rebecca Black Tech.

I'm attempting to put together and chronical the screen caps/relevant NewCon financial fuckery for a new thread since that's what this whole thing is ultimately about. I know there are still people tentitive about stepping up with new information.

If someone is already ahead of me in organizing and compiling the information gathered between the two threads (minus personal abusive experiences as interesting and leveling as they may be for many of you) please start a new one.

The goal is to shut this convention down by gathering as much evidence of financial fraud, theft and embezzlement as possible. Don't let this detail, disappear and blow over.

>>9401169
I'm also trying to do this. New thread coming asap, please compile all this info and share it!

>>9401107
>>9401112
There are more important things than partying and being "relevant" to the community. Like having a less toxic community where people feel safe. Here's my perspective as someone who helped host some of those big parties. They got smaller after Mike left, sure. He would invite people we barely knew who showed up for free booze, and openly admitted to inviting people he knew would cause drama so he would have stories to tell about them. Plus A LOT of damage would happen to the house and he'd tell people "don't worry about it, I'll fix it" and never would. So yeah good riddance to those ragers. If you want those be respectful to your hosts and CONTRIBUTE. The parties I hosted after Mike left were about having a good time with the friends I care about, not carrying on the legacy of the party house. Sorry you're butthurt about not getting free booze anymore.

>>9401181
No one cares about your weird group sex stuff, they miss parties.

Post is auto saging so I've made a new thread. Go post in the new one and continue the conversation.

>>9401191

>>9401181
Yeah, I remember he purposely invited one person per party that he knew would cause drama.
That "one" person would change each party.

But it was always one person, because he wanted them to cause drama for people to gossip about, but didn't want to invite too many drama-causers, because then it'd kill the vibe of his party.

>>9401181
To be fair a lot of people just didn't want to be around the group after Mike left, and a number of people still don't associate themselves with what's left.
Also that house turned into a disgusting pigsty after he left. Looked like hoarders had moved in - but that's off topic.

>>9401183
???????? OH MY GOD I am laughing so hard at your pathetic jab and whiny baby attitude. If you miss parties host them yourself.

>>9401095
Drama is everywhere tho.

>>9401197
(off topic but a new thread is starting anyway, I'll stop after this)
Yeah that's understandable, and believe me that mess still haunts my nightmares -_- If Mike was good for one thing it was keeping the messy people in check.

>>9399980
I was on that beach trip, had fun. It there was definitely drama floating around. Upside was I met lots of chill new people, BUT FUCK THAT CABBAGE!

>>9401197
The thread is dead but just to clear up one thing. The house didn't turn into a pigsty after Mike left. It turned into a pigsty after the people who did all the fucking cleaning bailed. Mike was just as much as a slob as the others in that house.

>>9400911
I think about 2014? I don't remember exactly. To keep it on topic though, he did talk about the convention a lot, and all the partying he was going to be doing.

I also remember one year (maybe it was at Wonder Northwest? It's been so long, I can't honestly remember.... Whatever.) he went around and offered me, and several of my friends (we were minors at the time) vodka gummy bears and everclear blueberries. He KNEW us, too. He knew we weren't 21 yet. And at Kumoricon, I sawhim offering several of my friends alcohol in the park. Several of my friends told me he gave them booze, too. This was about 2014, also? Several of which, were girls. Nice and creepy.

I mean, it's absolutely not uncommon for people in the con scene who are 21+ to buy bottles of booze for their under 21 friends, but generally it's kept in their hotel room, and also not distributed to minors who are mostly strangers to this man, in public, in broad daylight. Unless I'm looking at cons through rose tinted lenses, here.

I know this thread is dead but for anyone who happens to scroll all the way down here, I really just wanna get this out there:
All of this just makes me really sad; as someone that has personally staffed cons under Mike, I know for every crappy staff member, there's a dozen more that worked their asses off the whole year round to just make this con happen even through shitty direction from the con head:( I'm hoping someone more qualified will be able to take over soon and do justice to all the genuine hard work some of us have done to get the con noticed! I know there are lots of nice faces behind the scenes and lord am I hoping that next year's "resentment/boycott" won't be taken out on them:/

>>9398629
>you CAN'T rape if your dick never gets hard and I should know, my dick NEVER gets hard.

Yes you can, you fucking moron. Rape is nonconsensual penetration, with anything.
I was giving the benefit of the doubt, but that uneducated statement trashed everything remotely forgivable about you.