/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Reposting from old thread as it was posted after bump limit:

Would you class a print that's faded in the wash as minor damage or major damage on LM? Obviously I'd clearly declare it in the description. It's barely noticeable and even all over, which makes me think minor (I wouldn't have even noticed if I didn't have the matching headbow to compare), but the fact that the entire garment is faded makes me think major.

>>9443911
personally i'd say it depends on how faded it is. if you're wearing both the garment and the headbow and can see a clear distinction between the two in the mirror then i'd go with major.

>>9443909
Yeah, what do you do if something doesn't sell?

>>9443933
If I couldn't sell it for enough to justify the time spent listing/posting it I'd consider giving it away.

I must say, I really like and appreciate the new updates to Lace Market. I think the addition of watchlists, saved searches, and price reductions are amazing.

>>9443909
>brand tablewear edition
>mfw i just got angelic pretty dishes in the mail

nice!

also, i appreciate your recaps every thread, thanks OP-anon

>>9443911
That's major damage to me. It's faded, anon. It's obviously seen some serious wear over the years. It might be acceptable to you since you've seen the change happen gradually, but to a buyer, that's something HUGE.

>>9444101
Are you ganna eat on them?

Where does one pick up cheap glbs? Or how much should they be expected to cost? I only have one and I want more.
This isn't because they're not being printed anymore, I've wanted to expand my lolita media collection for a while now.

Does the Aus community have big tea parties and such anymore?

>>9444145

We only had one, and that was only because Misako was over here at the time. Not really much point organising a big one without some kind of drawcard.

>>9444134
yup! took the plunge and made sure they were all dishwasher safe and everything was a-okay. gonna eat my meals in style

>>9444126
>It's obviously seen some serious wear over the years
I bought it last year, wore and washed it once. It faded slightly after that one wash (it was Taobao, I'd be a bit more concerned if a brand print faded that quick). I'll declare as major just in case but fading isn't necessarily a sign of heavy use.

>>9444096
This. It's really improved visibility for new items and not the same old crap getting relisted for the same ridiculous price.

I feel stupid for asking this but I just realised that I've been wearing lolita for 4 years and don't have any bloomers.
Where is a good place to get comfy ones? I would like some that are either handmade/small indie or brand. Do not like stiff elastic.

>>9444336
All of mine are Meta or MeLikesTea. The MeLikesTea chiffon bloomers are a godsend in the summer, though they're quite transparent. Meta bloomers are easy to come across secondhand though, especially on the Japanese market. I've won a couple pairs dirt cheap on auction.

>>9444336
Seconding MeLikesTea

>>9444336
Seconding MeLikesTea

>>9444140
Idk but I recommend buying Eternita as well

Is misty sky finally getting an MTO with a new color and cut?
It's tokyo store exklusive for now, but if I remember right it was the same for choco rosette.
My hopes are up high that it will be open for everone soon.
>mfw it's the inferior JSK cut

>>9444528
>grey
I'm just excited to see this colorway popping up more often, I love grey in lolita!

>>9444528
It says it's a "special advance reservation" for the Tokyo store, with the grey being limited to Tokyo.
The others will presumably be up for reservation at the rest of the stores later.

>>9444531
Same, anon. I've been hoping for more grey in sweet since cats tea party. I'm glad they're noticing people want that colorway like people want navy colorways.

>>9444521
Nayrt but can you tell me about the contents in Eternita and why you recommend it?

>>9444528
I prefer this jsk cut personally.

If I just want to buy a few magazines and a book from Japan, which website should I use? Would zenmarket be the cheapest SS?

>>9444590
In terms of commission fees, I'd say yes, ZM charge only 300 yen per item regardless of value. Shipping won't be cheap though.

>>9444160
There's really no harm in overstating damage, just make sure there's clear photos of it and a clear description.

>>9444336
I use ones from Bodyline - they're quite thick though so better suited for colder months. Of course, with how BL is going right now ordering from them might be a shitfest.

>>9444590
Depends if it's from an auction or you can pass it to a fowarding service. Either way I'm finding jpn-depot is actually cheaper than everything else. But shipping will be high since books are heavy.

This auction came up right after the bloodbath of a release. I was curious to see if someone would end up paying the BIN price, but instead it ended way under retail price. Maybe this print won't be the next CTP after all? This gives me hope for tracking down the jsk later.

>>9444590
You can also just place an order directly from Amazon Japan. I live in the us and I've had no problem ordering directly from them.

Secrets are up

>>9444590
If you don't want to order from Amazon JP I can recommend CDJapan as well, because there you pay the original price of the magazines and just have to pay shipping, no shopping service fees (and you can even request books / magazines if they are not available on their website, however I never used this service so I don't know how successful the requests are)

>>9444653
It's not even sold-out in the Angelic Pretty stores, so maybe you will even have luck during summer sale

>>9444653
they release a cat print every year now. Personally, I thought Princess cat was prettier than this one.

>>9444528
Who's ready for Misty Sky to be the next Holy Lantern?

>>9444745
In both cases I would have to pay customs because I'm in the EU, but thanks

As someone who's fairly clueless about this stuff, is any non-japanese stuff acceptable for lolita wear/coords?

I've seen western fashion that from time to time, looks like it can fit into lolita, but like i said, i have no idea.

>>9444772
You can sometimes find non-brand pieces that can work with lolita but it's better to stick to actual lolita pieces until you know what to look for, otherwise you might waste time and money on stuff with full skirts or awkward collars and a bit of bad lace that you thought could work with lolita but in actuality doesn't suit the aesthetic at all.
TL;DR: It's possible when you know what you're doing. Not recommended for beginners at all.

>>9443911
As long as you disclose and photograph the damage I don't think the subjective part of how much damage matters. Just don't call it great/ excellent condition and use dimly lit/ backlit photos, I hate when people do that. There's some girl on LM who hangs her dresses in front of a window so you can't see the condition at all, I want to smack her

>>9444772
>>9444778
Commenting again to add that this is generally why places like ebay and amazon aren't recommended for beginners, because many things can be found when you search for "lolita" but not all of them actually fit the aesthetic, in many cases they're just mislabeled.

Suggestions for brands for a guy? Want to get into lolita but I'm not sure I'm small enough. 5'11" 138 pounds. Hard to find things that fit my measurements. Do I just have to buy and modify?

>>9444782
You need to give us your chest, waist and shoulder measurements. We have no idea where you're holding that weight.

>>9444772
Yes. There are threads in the archives where we talk about Western brands with items that may suit lolita coords. A few that come to mind: Kate Spade and Betsey Johnson for bags, Doc Martens and Irregular Choice for shoes, Vivienne Westwood... Normie stores like Target and Primark sometimes carry suitable cardigans and legwear.

Lurk more. Having an eye for what works in lolita (regardless of origin) comes with time and experience.

>>9444787

36", 29", 41"

>>9444796
For starters, memorise your measurements in cm not in. Everything is listed in cm on lolibrary and on brand websites themselves. Know your measurements, and you can figure out the rest yourself.

I feel like the medical print teaser came out forever ago but there has been no new update. Come on AP I'm dying to see cuts.

>>9444842
They were posted a thread or two ago. I don't have them at hand but maybe look at the archive.

>>9444796
Plenty of taobao would fit, so would long length IW (which would be good for your height). I think some lolitas who are exactly as tall as you were talking about suitable brands two lolita generals ago. Just memorize your measurements and buy dresses in the 100-110 cm length category, not stuff from Angelic Pretty that's 90 cm in length

>>9444853
Oh crap, thanks anon! I missed it, I had a ton of ot these last few weeks.

>>9444853
Shoot I found them but can't get the bigger picture version to load. Is that not possible or am I just doing it wrong?

>>9444101
>>9444134
>>9444159
actually i was curious about this, are most AP novelty dishes actually usable then? what about Baby/AATP? i was looking into buying some of them and if i can actually use them for eating/drinking instead of just display, that's a huge bonus for me

>>9444926
depends on the specific dishes! i wouldn't use the dishwasher on some of their plastic plates because there's the risk of warping/rubbing off the designs. probably wouldn't eat hot food on the plastic plates either. handwash and eat sandwiches off of it or something and they will be fine.

but plates/mugs that are made out of ceramic get the same treatment as the rest of my dishes. i threw them in the dishwasher prior to use and they held up, which means they can withstand some heat. it's one of those things you just gotta determine yourself

so yeah, they're all usable, but you can't toss all of them in the dishwasher, can't microwave some of them, and probably shouldn't eat hot food off of others. this is the longest post i have ever made about dishes

Did anyone get one of iw's golden week dresses? There's still a couple left, They're 3,000 yen each

>>9444705
I wish secrets were interesting like before. Used to read them while eating breakfast on saturday morning and we would discuss them with friends later. The comments were the best part.

>>9444383
>>9444485
My MeLikesTea ones have pretty stiff elastic, I actually found my Bodyline ones comfier.

I'm amazed how come Finninyan isn't hated in both lolita community and cosplay community. She posts lewds photos and half assed costumes.

>>9445251
literally who? i had to look her up and she just looks like an ugly bitch in lewd costumes

take your selfpost or your vendetta elsewhere

I see a lot of people nitpicking shorter skirts in lolita a lot, but was wondering what the consensus is on Antique Beast? Most of their dresses/skirts seem super short even by AP salopette standards.

>>9445270
I thought the consensus for antique beast was that their construction was off. At least for the dresses they sell. I agree, they look way too short, but I also think they are usually layered.

>>9445254
Not vendetta, is just a real question.

>>9444140
I'll put some in the bst thread

>>9445270
Those people should focus more on aesthetic than rules

>>9445251
Never heard of her so I guess she's not good at either. Go away.

>>9445270
I think length isn't as important in gothic anyways.

I've seen some super cheap bodyline, is it really even worth it for really cheap or will I end up regretting it, wishing I'd just used the money to buy brand pieces? I own one bodyline dress, but I think it's an older piece with how thick and not-cheap-cotton the fabric is, I don't really know what the general quality of their dresses are.

>>9445270

AB has a note somewhere on their website where they will make the skirts (and sleeves) longer for you for a certain fee. I just assume most girls do request this.

The rest of the time I've seen them referred to as ero rather than gothic.

>>9445323
You need to give specifics because their quality is all over the place, some pieces are worth it and some aren't.

>>9445323

They're still pretty hit or miss, some items are decent, some have dodgy lace or materials, and there's a couple of dresses that look better once you take off a bow or something. You'll get a better idea if you look for or ask for reviews of the specific item you're interested in.

>>9445323
It really just depends on the dress in question. A lot of their plain pieces are better quality than prints, but even some of their prints are fine for casual/daily wear. I would personally put money towards cheap brand but I can't diss Bodyline since I've owned and enjoyed some of their pieces. Look for reviews on what items you are considering because many times people do them for individual items.

>>9445310
What? Gothic has the same basic aesthetic guidlines as every other substyle

>>9445382
>get a load of this newfag

>>9445365
Isn't there a tumblr that collects pics of worn bodyline dresses so you can get a better idea of how they look? Their stock pics are so bad
>>9445385
Right, it's almost like they haven't seen many worn pics of gothic

>>9445438
http://bodylineneedsbetterpictures.tumblr.com/
This one?

>>9445438
>>9445453

I think someone once complained about one of the blouses being made from an uncomfortable material, so if you can find an actual review of the item itself it's much better than going off reviews. iirc it's one of Bodyline's better blouses because it actually looks good in owner photos.

>>9445453
Yeah that's what I was thinking of, thanks anon. I deleted tumblr a while ago.

So somebody actually went ahead and made a group for posting casual/basic/daily outfits.
I want it to succeed but I know in my heart it's just going to end up being CoF 2, with people slowly posting only thir most ott/photoshoot coords.

>>9445582
where is it/what's it called? i want to lurk before i get the courage to post my own outfits

>>9444931
I appreciate your post about dishes, anon.

>>9445583
Every-day lolita fashion snapshots
There's a link to it on Lolita Updates if that makes it easier to find for you.

>>9444771
Not on magazines. They're zero rated

>>9444867
For AP, be sure to get stuff with adjustable straps.

>>9445620
thanks anon, that means it was worth it!

I'm considering buying this blouse for a high-waisted skirt coord. It's not sheer on the bodice part so that should be fine, I can't find any reviews or worn pictures though so if anyone who has it could give me their opinion that would be greatly appreciated!

It's a soufleesong blouse btw

>>9445795
Soufflesong quality sucks, I'd look elsewhere.

>>9445582
So great in theory, but just a matter of time until these outfits start getting posted on here and criticized to hell and back.

Cue most people not wanting to deal with it and not post casual daily stuff, cue people posting super try hard coords for likes. COF2 is born.

Honestly, it's really sad, but until cgl admits it's part of the problem nothing will change and we will keep getting one upper outfits posted publicly while there is a whole iceberg full of everyday casual lolitas that struggle to relate to each other.

Is it just me or is Lolibrary's only search function is by name in the search bar? How do I search by brand, year and style in the new layout?

I tried buying a candle from Closetchild but they say they aren't allowed to send candels overseas because they are flammable ?>wut

Anyway, I wondered if it's just closetchild being strange or if there really is a prohibited item to send overseas from Japan?

>>9445285
This is probably a self post lol. Nobody likes you Finn, you're obnoxious and there's a reason only neck beards and beta orbiters want to hang out with you. Everyone else just friends you for the lols and to watch you trade nudes for shitty amazon trinkets

>>9445832
Haven't you ever sent out a package anon? They always ask if there's anything flammable or dangerous in your package. Most people will lie and say no even if there is but I've always found JP businesses super unwilling to bend any rules. I remember there was an anon a while back that couldn't get a sailor moon (or something?) perfume she won at auction shipped for the same reason.

>>9445836
Well I never did ship a candle no but I didn't even think a candle could be considered flammable, I mean I though flammable meant that there is a risk of it catching fire in transport. Not that there is a wick where one could start a controlled fire?

>>9445795

Brand aside, I'd think twice about pairing a shirred blouse with a high-waisted skirt, particularly one where the shirring seems to be sitting above/where the skirt's top will be. Maybe drop by the coord help thread and see if someone has suggestions for what kind of blouses would suit the kind of skirt you have planned.

>>9444336
Anna House

>>9445825

I’m waiting to see what direction the members take it in. Theoretically it’s nice to have a group that appreciates outfits that aren’t OTT everything-I-can-wear-at-once-plus-wig coords, and it’ll be nice to have coords with sleeveless cutsews, denim jackets and sneakers back again. But I equally don’t want to be in a group where people post colour-blind outfits, or just a jsk (and nothing else), or crocs and birkenstocks, or 3edgy5u bondage gear, whatever dumbassery because “lel it's casual lolita”.

In that sense I’m quite happy if members realise that cgl will still take them to task if they post 50 shades of nothing goes together or cheap-looking office blouses. I’m so tired of itas throwing “casual lolita” around everytime someone points out their shoes are too bright or why cutsews with jeggings isn’t lolita.

Casual lolita doesn’t mean anything goes. Casual means you don’t look as formal or OTT, but you should still look good. It should really be another way to dress in the fashion, not a babby's pool for girls who can't hack it.

>>9445881
>I’m so tired of itas throwing “casual lolita” around everytime someone points out their shoes are too bright or why cutsews with jeggings isn’t lolita.
I've never seen this or anything like it, is it just my comm?

>>9445883
Same here, never seen that.

>>9445830
Same question here too, I know they're still working on the site bt can anyone confirm the advanced search will eventually be there again?

>>9445825
>>9445881
It's too late. It's been posted here so now it's ruined. I just wanted a place to actually enjoy myself and this salt mine is going to fuck it up.

>>9445908
if you're letting an anonymous image board fuck up your enjoyment of the fashion, lolita isn't for you.

>>9445910
You misunderstand. I wanted to enjoy myself in a group without thinking about who was going to get posted or called fat or whatever and then the backlash because someone fee fees were hurt which means less content for me to enjoy because people stop posting out of fear of us here.

A chinese cartoon board doesn't impact my wearing the fashion/enjoying it. It impacts whether caring about a group is worth it.

From Excentrique S/S collection, what are your thoughts? The concept is Secret Garden.

>>9445926

>>9445915
To be honest you're probably not missing much from the people who aren't posting because their feefees were hurt by the big mean cgl board.

>>9445928

>>9445932

>>9445936

Besides pic related, they've also made the Haeckel print available again but now only the skirt is in stock
>>9445937

>>9445926
I'm not a fan. I am used to Excentrique releasing the same cuts/designs season after season but I really don't like the materials they've chosen this time around.

Plus when I think "Secret Garden", I think of pic related.

Does anyone here have recent experience with Infanta? (as in, the past year or so). I'm interested in purchasing the dress pictured but I'm worried that the actual product will look messed up compared to the promo picture.

>>9445943
Specifically I'm worried it'll end up looking like the dress this reviewer got back in 2013. Ofcourse it's been 4 years, so... maybe they got better since then?

>>9445941
This dress >>9445936 is actually called Mary Lennox. I've only read the book so I don't mind at all. My favourite is >>9445926 tough because it's 3 pieces you can mix and match with the rest of your wardrobe and I fell in love with Excentrique because I love sailor.

>>9445943
Tbh the fabric in the promo picture already doesn't look that good

>>9445948
Pretty much, but given that this is mostly reserved for cosplay I don't mind quality not being top notch as long as it doesn't look like the disaster in the comparison picture I've uploaded earlier. Still.. concerned!

>>9445944
Imo that pic on the right looks exactly how it will turn up. Don't expect any better with old designs.

>>9445883
>>9445886

It was CoF, handful of years back. And once they were done with the "casual lolita" excuse they went on to invade the "otome" group. Easier to switch groups to avoid actually working on looking well put-together, it seems.

I cheated a little, the girl with bright green shoes (or socks? I forget) said she was doing otome, and therefore they didn't need to match because "otome isn't lolita". The rest were "casual lolita", though.

>>9445944
Not trying to bash Infanta, but even their promo looks like something a sewing '''veteran''' would post in the sewing groups.

>>9445943
I've only purchased their more recent releases personally, I don't know how often they restock older dresses but they do change the materials used on some dresses from time to time if they can't access the original ones they used. So it might be more like the newer stock image but because it's an older release it's probably best to err on the side of caution and look for more worn pics and recent reviews.

>>9445939
I like that blouse!

>>9445987
they don't have it anymore but they have peter pan collar blouses really often

Are there Chinese brands that aren't copycats?
Japanese and Western brands generally stick to their own concept but the Chinese brands I know just seem to be all over the place and even pic related's logo looks like JM's logo. I mean, tough AP follows trends you can still tell it's AP.

>>9445998
>western brands
>their own concept
Girl, you do know most mainstream western brands are just copies of designers, don't you? And even some designers rip off other designers and so on. Originality is rare when it comes to fashion.

>>9445943
I hate that mock velvet material, but anything cotton or chiffon that I've gotten from them had ended up looking nice and as expected. I've got three solid chiffon OP's, a Love & Canary in Dark Green, Had and traded away Swan Lake and tempted to get Rose Cathedral at some point.

>>9446005
I'm talking about lolita indie brands obviously. I don't know that many Western brands but the ones I know I can generally tell apart.

>>9445998
Japanese brands aren't immune to copying.

>>9446034
That's one brand that got a lot of shit for it already, probably because you didn't expect it from a japanese brand

>>9445998
why are those tights on crooked rrrrreeeeeee

Im looking for some tea party shoes is it worth getting brand ones I've heard the quality for brand shoes isnt the best.

>>9445908
The only thing that fucks it up is bitches posting their coords with pastel colored wigs, floordinates, fancy AP bullshit but-I-have-a-sweater-so-its-casual-lel-chans, and poorly constructed WA lolita. That shit is not casual, it does not belong. I just want to look at actual daily/casual outfits.

>>9446058
I had AP tea parties before and they lasted me 4 years of near daily wear. I had to take them in twice over the year for minor repairs and up keep(I walked so much I was wearing down the heels so I had to get that repaired which cost about $10) but overall it was well worth it.

>>9446078
That's good to know. Are they thin feet friendly? I have super narrow feet even by Asian standards

>>9446099
I have thin long feet. They were really comfy! Sometimes shoes feel like they are going to fall off because my feet and ankles are thin, but the ankle straps always held them in place well

>>9445926
Their summer collections are usually boring with tons of plain mumu-dress cuts. Saving my bucks for winter for some delicious military and more interesting fabrics. Last year a/w was just amazing.

>>9446153
They re-releasing their cadet set this summer

>>9445830
I was under the impression you just type that in. It's been working for me for what I needed anyway.

>>9444885
Here they are again for you anon

>>9445830
just put a string of the keywords you are searching
I tried that my first visit to the new layout to see if it would work and it did. like, >gobelin 2001 op
or whatever

>>9445292
This x1000.

>>9446068
>floordinates
what's wrong with those? i always like seeing well done floordinates

>>9446220
The year doesn't seem to work sadly tho unless it's in the name of the dress. I wish they'd make is a searchable keyword somehow.

>>9445970
What's wrong with it?

>>9446068
You lost me with the floordinates. Some people prefer doing them or don't have a full length mirror.

>>9445834
Not a self post, neither a neckbird. I just thought she was pretty, I even support her Patreon page. I am genuinely curious why.

>>9446301
Neckbeard*

>>9446255
Just because Coord looks good on a floor doesn't mean it looks good worn. I like to see what pieces look like worn together.

>>9446309
K so there isn't actually anything wrong with them then. It's a personal taste from what I'm gathering.

>>9445986
Do you know where I might be able to find recent worn pics? The LJ community is pretty much dead, and Google isnt being too helpful. Also, thanks for the great feedback!

>>9445191
Yeah now it's just "here's more cgl shit"

>>9444768
Am I the only one that thinks they're equal?

>>9446214
Oh man I can not fucking wait.

>>9445832
Id be afraid it might melt

>>9446311
Its like how clamp draws killer cute outfits, but if they were to be translated to real life they would look like shit because of clamp's thin long bodied characters. Just because it looks good on the floor doesn't mean it looks good worn. I'd rather see it hanging on a maniquin then on the flat floor. But to me part of a coordination is how you wear your hair, makeup, and you don't get that feel of the outfit if its lying flat. I want to see your coordinate. Your whole outfit. Not your clothes thrown on the ground.

>>9445251
Is this "lesbianlolita" who was nonbinary except when it could inconvenience her in real life?

>>9446321
baby the blunt shines bright was good but I saw that on tumblr first

>>9445832
Try a forwarding service.

>>9446311
You can make things look good in a floordinate that would look like shit in real life, I used to do a lot of floordinates when coord planning and it's surprising how different a lot of them look worn. You especially get a lot of leeway to move where the collar sits around that you don't on an actual body, so it's easy to fake stuff like there being no awkward gap between JSK, cardigan and blouse in a floordinate even if there would be IRL.

Is there a way to report persistent tag abuse to LM mods or is it too minor/subjective for them to bother with? I've noticed a couple of users that are ticking every single substyle box to try to maximize reach, including stuff that's completely irrelevant and wrong like shiro and kuro for items that aren't black or white.

m not sure if this is OT but as a lolita I love tv shows and films with amazing (historical) costumes and fairytale themes. I also decided I want to watch more with lesbians in it (because I haven't watched anything with lesbians in it). But I can't find any films or shows that would be aesthetically pleasing to a lolita and also gay?

What are some good (preferably western) shops for bags that can suit the lolita aesthetic wihout being too ott? Other thank Ted Baker and Kate Spade.

>>9446388
*other than. I don't know what's wrong with me today

>>9446335
>>9446373
You guys are right - but they're still really cute and I don't want people to stop doing them. Just because it looks one way worn on someone else doesn't mean it's gonna look the same on yourself.

>>9446387
The Girl King perhaps? I haven't seen it myself yet but it meets 2 of your criteria.

>>9446388
Betsey Johnson

>>9446377
You could try using the report button and explain (it allows for that). It doesn't seem super important because I don't use those functions, but if I did it be annoying.

>>9446396
Cool. But don't post them in coordinate groups.

>>9446388
You occasionally see suitable stuff (things like shell bags) in high street shops like Accessorize, Topshop and Primark, but it's rare...maybe one in every 200 bags.

>>9446387
Seconding this.
Fellow gaylita

>>9445251
I fucking hate her but so many of my friends are friends with her. I don't get why. She argued that lolita is cultural appropriation, among the other retarded things she said.

>>9446473
Who the fuck cares about some random cosplayer

>>9446340
Yes

>>9446387
There were a few gay moments in HBO's Rome, but I don't know if you'd consider that aethetically pleasing to a lolita. Also, I haven't seen Farewell my Queen so I can't say if it actually shows a lesbian relationship but it looks like it might so why not give it a go?

>>9445582
... I thought that's what CoF was for, were we not supposed to post daily lolita coords there?

>>9446387
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingersmith_(TV_serial)

I've not watched it myself but I've heard good things. If you've heard about that recent Korean film The Handmaiden that's been getting a lot of hype, the plot of The Handmaiden is basically a direct rip-off of Fingersmith and friends I have that have seen both think Fingersmith was better.

>>9446387
Racking my brain for some, but all that keep coming up are mostly male homoeroticism, or lesbians only have an episode or two and not involving important characters.

>>9446417
They're still a coordinate.

You guys just want people to do what you want and what you want only.

>>9446387
Tipping the Velvet is about lesbians during the Victorian era. It's not very long but I enjoyed it.

>>9446493
cof has evolved into mostly ott, photoshoots, and elaborate meet up coords

>>9446387
I havent read it yet but I was recommended this and apparently its lesbian?

https://myanimelist.net/manga/93516/SQ__Begin_W_Your_Name

>>9446533
Why post Chinese manga in the Lolita General when you're not even sure it's gay

>>9446058
They're pleather shoes so it's not that great, but they are noticeabley nicer than taobao equivalents, especially when it comes to bow shape and such. If I could fit brand shoes I would buy them, I think it's worth it

>>9446496
>a direct rip-off
They're both based on the same book

I'm asking ebay sellers with "new w/o tags" kiss me cat dresses to provide me with proof the dress is legit with a pic of the AP label sewn inside the dress and they're none too happy with me for pointing out they'd literally have to rip the label out the dress thus negating it's "as new" status. Been banned from a few auctions. I hardly think asking for proof an item I'm about to spend money on is legit is "rude".

>>9446523
Its a shame. Most of the nice actual daily wear coords get bumped to oblivion because the Ott meetup coords are where all the comments go, so they stay at the top and the others are drowns out.

>>9446545
Wait why would they have to rip out the label?

>>9446545
>they're none too happy with me for pointing out they'd literally have to rip the label out the dress thus negating it's "as new" status
Run that by me again, what? So you asked them to show you the tag and they misunderstood and thought you were asking to remove the tag?

>>9446538
This >>9446533 is /u/ approved but slow paced and with a side of yaoi, so it's going to take some time before something like pic related happens in the current story, you can read it here https://dynasty-scans.com/series/their_story

Hello gulls. I saw my one of my dream dresses on Lacemarket but it's M size (I am S). But I've been thinking about adding buttons on the straps and such... But I am not sure, it would be probably too long and big. Opinions? Should I buy it? the Minimal size of the dress are: Bust 91cm, Length 96,5cm, and Waist 74. And my measurements are: Bust 80cm, Waist 67cm, and my height is 150cm. Thanks in advance!

>>9446552
>>9446556
I'm asking the sellers to provide an image of pic related but they say the item is new without any tags. As you can see the tag is sewn into the dress so the only way they'd be unable to provide it is if the dress is fake or if they themselves ripped the tag out with a seam ripper which would negate the "as new" status.

>>9446566
Gotcha. Wonder if you could report them to eBay for that.

>>9446564
That's definitely way too big for you in the bust and length and would look really odd. Does it have shirring or corset lacing? Is this the only size your dream dress came in or is it an IW/Taobao/whatever piece that had multiple sizes, so you can wait until an S-sized version comes up?

>>9446571
It's a Haenuli dress (That makes me a bit more reluctant since the dresses are quite long), and yes there is a S size but I rarely see listings it in that size and color... Oh well, I think I am gonna pass for now. I was really tempted since I finally have money saved for one of my dream dresses.

>>9446561
It's still off-topic

>>9446564
I'd wait for the S size anon. They are generally cheaper too.

>>9446387
If you like the 1920s, Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries is really an excellent show with several gay characters and plots, and the costuming is beyond amazing

>>9446771
The latest BBC production of And Then There Were None had a lesbian and a gay character in it and some nice 30s/40s outfits. It's not really fun lesbian romance so much as evil lesbians, but it kind of counts.

>>9446774
I'm excited to check that out, thanks anon!

>>9446771
Oh I should clarify: both lesbian and gay male characters and plots abou both. The Doctor is one of my favorite lesbian characters from television in general, she's so good.

>>9446538
Why post taobao dresses on a jfashion forum when they're from china

>>9444653
It might have gone for under retail price because mint seems to be the least popular colorway.

>>9446387
There's a TV movie called Mystère à la Tour Eiffel that's making rounds lately, here's the synopsis:
>The daughter of one of the architects who built the Eiffel Tower gets framed for a murder that has taken place there, so she and her girlfriend embark on a quest across Paris to solve the mystery.
>she and her girlfriend
It's very obviously gay and the costumes look great from what I've seen. Not sure if you can find it online to watch it but it's worth a look.

>>9446978
Yikes

already asked in the BL thread, but it's moving slow as fuck so here it goes: is bodyline airmail reliable or will I never see my package? ems costs double what my order costs so I'm a bit reluctant

>>9445864
My Anna House bloomers have held up for 7 years so far. I wash them in the washing machine on normal, too. Fuckers are sturdy.

>>9447005
I'very ordered from bodyline twice, once a couple of years ago, once in March this year. Used Airmail both times. Shipping took a few weeks but I got my package and they marked it down both times so I didn't get hit with customs.

>>9447066
thanks anon. I've only ever used ems with them out of fear, hearing that makes me less paranoid

>>9445932
fuck

So i'm new to this, this is probably a terrible question but... how important are prints?

I mostly know the look from anime and while i like the shape and lines of the outfits, they never actually feature prints.. and honestly, i kind of prefer it that way. But i guess i wear plain stuff most of the time so all the prints seem that little step too far for me.

>>9447077
plenty of lolitas don't wear prints. don't sweat it. there's a huge variety of non-print dresses.

>>9447077
Not important at all. They're very popular but they're not the end all be all of lolita. Solid dresses can be just as over the top or great for dressing down and wearing regularly, depending on the piece.
One thing though: If you're getting into this through anime, forget everything you know about "anime lolita" (most of them are terribly designed and look hideous as actual clothes) and please please do your research, don't treat this fashion like a costume or cosplay.

>>9447077
even though modern lolita is all about prints now, it started out with just plain fabrics or common prints like dots or flowers. prints aren't as important as brands make it look

>>9447080
Or the brand whores on /cgl/ do

>>9447087
>something something brandwhore strawman

i have literally never seen anybody say "they should be wearing a print instead of a solid!" or "this would have been better with a print!" or anything along those lines. someone can still be a "brandwhore" and buy solids, but honest to goodness brandwhores aren't a thing

>>9447087
>not being a brandwhore for non-print dresses
Plebeian taste, as expected from a poorfag.

>>9446577
Honestly, depending on how old the dress is, a medium might be fine. The newer, (ala Starlight and beyond), tend to run bigger than the measurements listed on the Haenuli site, but the 1-2 size dress era either run true to size or smaller. (My St. Giles dress is definitely smaller than the measurements listed). Maybe if it's a common print you could wait more, but if nothing else you can keep it to trade for a smaller size later.

>>9447077
Prints get hyped a lot but most lolitas own at least a few non-print dresses and skirts. They're usually more versatile and just as cute. All but one of my dream dresses are non-print.

>>9447079
This, too. Even when lolita brands collab with an anime to produce anime-inspired dresses (like IW with Rozen Maiden) the dresses end up looking kinda weird. Stuff designed for animated characters rarely translates well to real life because everything gets simplified (e.g. large blocks of a single colour) and exaggerated (e.g. huge, gravity-defying ruffles), plus anime characters often have different proportions than real people. Something that looks elegant on a babyfaced Clamp character with noodle anatomy will likely look frumpy on a real person.

>>9446782
Because it's Lolita, not comics

Ohhh boy

>>9445127
I have ordered but haven't got an invoice yet and do not expect one anytime soon. Honestly I do not think I'll be lucky enough to get any of the 3 dresses ordered.

>>9446571
Oops forgot to say it does have shirring and corset lacing in the back, I still thing with a 10cm difference it would look odd in the back...

>>9447123
That's nice to hear! It's one of the older releases actually, I was worried about the length since I am very short but it does have 1cm difference between S and M in length, but it is too big for me in the bust and waist... Ahh ;_;

>>9447176
THAT BETTER BE A GOOD OH BOY

Meta= gods among men

>>9445830
you just type it all in, although frustratingly typing the year doesn't actually help

I ordered some enamel pins, and didn't notice until after they made all 50 of the design and had arrived that they forgot to color one portion of it (they put in white enamel, instead of the yellow I had in the design).

Is there anything I can do to fix it? It looks horribly unprofessional, I'm so disappointed. Please help!

>>9447342
Where did you order from? If it's an independent artist/crafter they might be helpful if you contact them.

>>9447342
Er, did you mean to post this in the AA thread?

>>9447346
I wasn't really sure where to post it, sorry if this is the wrong place :S

>>9447345
They're from an Alibaba seller. The problem is they had me clear each design, and for this one it's a small detail so I didn't notice.

>>9447342
It's okay friend! Try posting here >>9439506 they can probably help you out!

>>9447444
Ok I will. Thank you!

Watched an actually nice french lolita documentary from 2011 and I feel like I'm "late to the party".
Only could afford lolita/going to meetings/... in 2015 (but watched everything from afar since 2010) and I feel like all the super fun era is gone now. I saw another (cringy) one , still in french, and they were reading the storybook François Amoretti wrote about lolita fashion and it felt like it was released only a year ago when it's been 7 years'. I don't know anymore.

Also I would be ok with translating said first documentary if you wish.

>>9447524
Please do anon! I'm really interested!

>>9447524
Yes please, I really miss reading translations about lolita.. even if it's not from Japanese magazines

>>9447537
>>9447542
Am working on it right away.
Actually I would love to translate the book I talked about in my post, it's so dreamy. But I think it wouldn't be legal to do so. But it only exists in french and japanese and I would love to share it with english gulls and english friends.

http://www.inumaginfo.com/aupaysdulolitaintegrale18112011-721.html
"In the land of lolita"
Miwako (18yo) : Dressing in lolita gives me the impression to have the right of dreaming. There's a lot of elegance, it's fine, delicate, and the colors are vivid.

Nekotan (17yo): It's a representation of beauty for me. To me, you can't be lolita and have disheveled hair. You need to assume your clothes.

Kima (19yo): I don't what to say but it's just that I like it and that I please myself when I wear that kind of clothes and am with my friends

Josca (16yo): I can exist like I want because after all under the dress, with or without the dress, it's me and it'll always be me. But it allows me to feel good,the concept allows me to feel good. because lolita is also a concept.

(part 1/??)

>>9447546
That's why people post that kind of stuff to livejournal, you can lock it

>>9447561
Thank you anon, do you have a blog or anything where translations can be saved?

Josca: What I mostly like is its "fresh" side with the flowers. And I like the two big bows here, it's beautiful and with that lace it's sumptuous.
And most of all, what's really researched in lolita dresses is the print.

Nekotan: And since every print is unique, every time a new one is released everyone is jumping on it and thus, if you really want it, you need to be there at the right place at the right time

Josca: A hairpin is very very rare, when they release a hairpin you need to jump on the occasion. Especially since hairpins aren't very common and they look differently on someone's head than a simple Alice Bow
Also, putting lots of things in your hair is OTT. It means having lots of things on you. I decorated this outfit with all the accessories I have like, for example, wearing gloves with lots of rings. But what I find to be good taste is having lots of things but not too much or else it looks -sorry to say that- it makes you look like a Christmas tree. Having just enough and not especially a huge lot is what good OTT is to me.

Nekotan: There,mom!
Mother: It suits you wonderfully. It's the next one you want if I understood?
Nekotan: Yes!
Mother: And the shape? Do you like it? That kind of shape is unusual.

Nekotan: At first, mom and dad were absolutely not ok with me wearing pink. They told me "It's no wearable, I mean, you can't wear a dress with ponies on it!"
Mother (Nathalie): I kinda took it slowly thinking it was more of a whim than anything but when I noticed that it really was important to her, that she felt better in those clothes than in the one we choosed together in other stores, well... we needed to invest a little in it, then a little more,...

Josca: And so, you were saying that the little dotted cardigan was...
Mother: In the end it actually looks funny!

Interviewer: Do you sometimes swap your dresses?

(part 2/???)

>>9447573
Unfortunately no. But if anyone wanna save it (or even ask me to translate another french thing in the future) they're welcome to do so. I also hope my translations are good since english isn't my mother language (and some french expressions can be tricky to translate!)

>>9447561
>>9447582
Josca: Yes! I love lending my dresses but if some people don't want to I would understand, from fear of damaging them, but I like taking that risk. And even then, I lend to reliable people that I know very well, people that generally take care of their dresses. I know who I'm lending to, it's not as if I was lending to anyone

Nekotan: I don't lend to everyone. Because lolita costs a lot of money and telling yourself that by lending a dress, that you had a hard time getting, to someone who, in the end, doesn't care as much as us, will damage it...It kinda hurts my heart. Because, well, you had a hard time getting it and we care about it.

Nekotan: This one is at 290€ but Angelic Pretty dresses like the one I wore before are (about) 359€. Even if normally in Japan, it's like 100€

Josca: There are also websites where there are dresses that are at, for example, 35€, and they're way less expensive. It's almost the same type of quality except there are less fabric options, while here there are fabrics with different textures,...
What you can also do is going to websites specialized in second hand dresses.
Second hand is dresses that were already worn by people that want to resell it on the internet. But you need to be careful about the notice because on some websites, they have a notice where they tell you about the quality of the dress,the number of times (Nekotan) it has been worn,if it's damaged or not.

Nekotan&Josca: They always put pics to show you if there's a little stain of something,they circle it in red,...

Josca: So, after that, you have to be willing to want the dress despite her damages.

(part 3/??)

>>9447614

Josca: Everyone is dressed with dull colors like black, grey,... and it doesn't make me happy. When I go in the subway and wear pink, even if some people are going to criticize, at least, I'm sure that I bring some cheerfulness in that dull world.

Nekotan: I think that it's a style that looks doll-like, more "childish" and it matches with my way of thinking and who I am

Interviewer: Are you scared of growing up?
Nekotan: A little.
Interviewer: Why?
Nekotan: Because I don't want to have a lot of responsabilities like paying bills. I don't find that fun.

Josca: The world as it is now, doesn't allow us, being different, to take more freedom. Since the world was world, the Man must work to feed himself, the Man is must do this and that, needs to be conscious of other people,realize he's not alone,...Which makes it in a way that in the end people trapped themselves in one type of life,one type of person,in only one type; the type which is our opposite and is called "normal" which means with no differences,without being capable of having a real personality, without doing anything really attractive to them and tell themselves that they are "themselves"
(wew this part was super hard to translate and I made her sound like a huge special snowflake in the process. I guess what she clumsily tried to say was that some people nowadays are so used to following the norms that they don't really think by themselves anymore)

part 4/???

>>9447638
-Welcome to Josca's home-
Josca: What was difficult was talking to my parents about it. It's not exactly simple to come up to your parents and say "By the way, I would like to be lolita!"
At first they were quite surprised, and they kinda braked and said "In what kind of adventure are you getting us into?"
At first they looked at me funny because telling right to your parents, i mean you can't really tell them otherwise, that you wanna be lolita when you already have a "manga" style with pleated skirts and all of a sudden say you wanna change to be lolita...that surprised them.
I took one year to convince my parents by talking to them about it constantly.

Josca: This is something I love a lot which made me fall in love when i saw it. It's a phone case.

Interviewer: It's a little imposing

Josca: Yes but it's so cute. I rarely use it as a phone case, I usually clip it on my bag. What I like a lot about it is the little face of the bunny.

Josca: The lolita's soul is the soul of gaiety. it's a soul different from all of the other souls, it's the soul of the "little girl" in yourself, the soul of feminity, of finding beauty in things, of romantism,...Of everything the world has lost to us.
I don't only count lolitas that have dresses, I also count lolitas that are lolita in the soul, who are discreet,at home,and dream to be like us.

>>9447653
-Welcome to Château de Breteuil-

Josca's Mother:I didn't even know about that movement, I didn't even know about the dresses.. I didn't know anything. She showed it to me 2 years ago. It made me laugh, I found them a bit...ridiculous. But by seeing them again and again, seeing the dresses, pretty things that are well made, well sewn,... I admitted it was pretty, not on everyone, but it's pretty when it's well worn. But you have to know about it, be into it,... It's like everything else; By seeing it again and again. Like when you listen to a music passing at the radio, at first you don't like it, they pass it again and again and at the end you find it cool and you buy it. It's kinda the same thing

Miwako's Mother: At first I had trouble getting used to it. Some outfits are kinda exuberant. But I'm here today, to make her happy,. And I tell myself it's not a bad movement, they're nice , they're girls that wander around in dresses that aren't ugly, they drink tea, eat little cakes,...It's not a dangerous movement so, well.

Interviewer: Now they're still teens but what if it continues?

Miwako's mother: We'll see!

Interviewer: Will you still tolerate it as much?

Miwako's Mother: Well I think she should, it's my point of view, I think she should change, but I think she'll change by herself the day where...she gets married,has kids,... Or maybe she'll stay this way and introduce her lifestyle to her kids, her husband,..
But I'll always tolerate it. It's my daughter so I'll tolerate.

Part 6/???

>>9447665
This is so cute....... I wish my mom enjoyed lolia.

Thank you so much for translating!!

>>9447665
Miwako: People find me weird compared to her (Josca). But we're the same. We both come to school dressed "normally", well, "normally", what's normality?

Some girl in the background: To me there's no "norm"!

Miwako: To me, being "normal" is being who you are inside, dress the way you want,.. as long as we like it it stays "normal". There's not a special style called "normal" and all the others are called "weird". Normality is what we are ourselves and not what others want us to be.

Josca: Unfortunately there are a lot of people who are complexed by their appearance or mentally or that were belittled too much and they can't understand. People always need to be with "the others" in hope to feel better, to say "Yes, I have friends". But that's not what life is. When you are yourself, you see life differently, you see it from your point of view, and not from"the others"'s point of view.

Nekotan: They know they're unhappy so they tell themselves "other people must be like that too!"

Josca's mother: A style really doesn't hurt anybody. Everyone could be able to wear what they want and tell yourself "i'll buy that because everyone wears that" ,in a way, it's being scared of being different, scared of people judging. But I'm sure that at least 50% of people wouldn't want to be dressed the way they are. That they are sad about it but they don't dare. And when they see lolitas they'll compliment them, because in a way they're kinda "envious".

Nekotan: It's a fear of asserting themselves

Josca's mother: Exactly. The other ones are complexed, and when they see lolitas they feel bad they feel ashamed for them. And since they feel ashamed for them they take the shame for themselves and they become aggressive

Part 7/???

>>9447684
Aw, we all wish. You're welcome anon! Josca's mother even used to wear AATP to some TPs/meetings iirc.

>>9447694
Josca: If we were self conscious we would be really discrete and we wouldn't dare to show ourselves in public in colorful dresses, exposed to people and their remarks. Like, for example the remarks we have is that this style is very..."look at me". Sure, you can say it looks this way even if it's not our intention, but if I was really feeling self conscious I would probably dress in black, with discrete things, and hide in a corner.

Miwako's BF: When we are together in the street she's rarely dressed in lolita because it's not always easy because people stare. But I entirely assume being with her when she's dressed like this in public.

Interviewer: And how does your surroundings see her?

Miwako's BF: My family accept it just as it is.

Interviewer: And what do your friends say?

Miwako's BF: They say "don't you find it weird she dresses like that?" or "did you know she dress like that" and I say that yes, that I know it and don't care. And if they're not happy about it it's the same thing.

Josca: We don't have to force ourselves to be something else than what we are just to please people, people we don't know, that aren't our parents,family,.. That'll never talk to us and that don't have a word to say on what we should do of our lives. Life is long so we need to profit and make it nice and not waste it.

Part 8/???

>>9447712
(just noticed one of the photographer was repeating "you are sublime")

Interviewer: What does it feel like to be stopped constantly by photographs?

Miwako: It's kinda embarassing. But it's true that often, when we go to Paris, we stop for that and sometimes it lasts 10,20 minutes or more because more people stop again and again to take pics and they say "Oh please just two minutes we want to take a pic!". So sometimes it's cumbersome but ah well.

Nekotan: We don't do that to be noticed, and sometimes when you're in a hurry well...And sometimes they don't even ask permission and we feel like circus freaks.

(mother and photograph "arguing" a bit, the photograph excuse himself and the mother says it's alright)

Interviewer: Aren't you scared about your picture getting deflected(not sure if it's the right word)

Nekotan:Yes, often. And I never see the pictures in the end so it's kinda scary but what can we do besides posing or go away? There's not a lot we can do. And even if we tell them no they consider they're right anyway because we're dressed flashy. They don't wanna hear anything or admit they're wrong.

Part 9/???
(almost done!)

>>9447712
>>9447742
I really like the way these girls are discussing doing what you want with your life like it's any other alt fashion, rather than taking the sort of...snowflakey?...tone a lot of lolita documentaries these days have. Thanks for these translations. Is the documentary on YouTube? Maybe you could add community CC and share it somewhere publicly.

>>9447742
-A big family-

Josca: I'm going to introduce you my several sisters reunited here. To begin, I'll introduce you to Loliz, my big sister.

Loliz: Hello!

Josca: It can have different significations: you can be sister with another lolita if we share a fraternal link or simply because it's a great friend but also because some of us need advice,to be guided in lolita,... And also know some things that you don't know when you just began.

Loliz 31yo: ("oooh mistress!") She's really my little sister, the little sister I wish I had. There's the sharing we have in between sisters, like when you share the same passion, and I get along with her family,her parents,... I come to at her place sometimes. I maybe feel the need to protect her from the viciousness of some girls and...

Interviewer: Does it exist?

Loliz: Unfortunately yes, Josca is attacked quite a lot but well.

Josca: And there, is my sister "Miwako", she's my "twin sister".
(n.b i remember that back then, the "sister" system was present quite a lot in the french community, even more than in america it seems)

Miwako: A twin sister is someone who's always there for you and who guides you when you make mistakes. Josca is always there to put some light in my life. Every wednesday she would come over for Spanish lessons and everytime it made me happy for the week. And if I need someone to talk to or if I need help for something she'll be there.
Seeing her gives me confidence.

Nekotan: Tea parties are always grandiose, that's also why we don't want to miss them.

Josca: It's an extremely prestigious event, not everyone can especially attend it. It's an honor to attend it because we're always in fabulous decors. it's also a way to meet our correspondants and talk about our experience in lolita and have a good time!

Part 10/???

>>9447770
from the way they talk about lolita it sounds like much more of a subculture than in my comm

>>9447770
-In the best of the worlds?-
Loliz: The girls' universe can be closed,ruthless,even elitist,... If you don't have the last dress released or you suck, you don't have money,...Off course they're not all like that, thankfully, or else we wouldn't last long in that environment. But sometimes you need to put yourself in a bubble and not listen to what the others say and continue to live our passion with our friends that are true and sincere.

-The surprise guest, Aoki Misako, kawaii ambassador, dedicate her book-

Josca: There, I'm waiting in line, as you can see the line is huge, to get a dedicace and a picture with Aoki Misako! It's a lolita icon and also a known Baby model. And for me she's kindness incarnated.

(I noticed Misako said "merci" which means "thank you" in french)

Loliz: Yes but you can be a princess and a doll at 31yo too! It doesn't mean anything, women are all princesses, whoever they are.

Aaaand that's the end of it. Phew.

Part 11/11

>>9447788
That was really interesting, anon! Thanks so much for doing this translation.

Is mercari and fril the same thing? They look so similar and many of the items look the same too.

>>9447829
No, they're competing apps but many users post items to both services to try to increase their reach.

>>9447788
Thank you for the translation!

>>9447776
Well, it's from 2011. Lolita was still a subculture back then.

who missed me tho

i know some of you fat fucks did

>>9447848
it's still a subculture for me

>>9447852
who even are you?

>>9447867
hi newfag

>>9447867
please don't feed trols

>>9447867
An attention whore ""troll"" you should report and ignore.

>>9447871
>>9447872
>troll

i'm a goddamn legend

are you guys ready for me to absolutely
rape this board again?

>>9447873
I thought you died.

>>9447880
no

something came up and i had to stop for a while

but it's k cuz i promised i'd always be here

>>9447885
I hope it was your husband divorcing you.

I'm still sad about Baby Paris closing and all my lolita idols who stopped wearing it,it feels like the end of an era.

>>9447891
w o w
r
u
d
e

no

it wasn't that

it'll never be that

i may not be his first wife but i sure as shit am the best

who doesn't want a quirky waifu that won't stop sucking even if you slap her?

Report,hide and ignore. As simple as that. Don't even acknowledge her~

In any case:
Who wears bloomers here? Simple frilly shorts,pumpkin shorts,real bloomers or full on drawers?

>>9447903
>don't even acknowledge her
>literally acknowledgeding me in this post

fucking hypocrite

and as if it'll stop me

i am the queen of instigating shit with the proof being a year of you fucks falling for my b8 again and again

>>9447788
thank you for translating it was bready comfy to watch for some reason

>>9447903
in summer i wear a simple frilly short but in late autumn/winter i generally wear bloomers and drawers for maximum warmth

>>9447896
Iktf anon, iktf

>>9447903
I never go without bloomers, no matter what the weather is like. I have a warm pair and a couple light pairs. My Anna House bloomers are my favorite. I got them when I first started years ago and they've held up really well.

>>9447903
I love bloomers a lot but I unfortunately have to wear shorts instead when it's too warm for them. Otherwise I definitely wear bloomers regularly, and drawers under longer dresses (or with knee length dresses if I want to go with the peeking bloomers look).
I know some people hate them but I love them so much, I think they're so damn cute and imo they make coords feel more complete.

Oh shit. I thought "she" was finally gone.

Time go to check out the farm...

>>9447958
i promised you guys i'd never leave /cgl/

also did you just > i'm a male?

assuming my gender?

fucking cis scum

Am I stupid or do the pictures never load on atelier bozs website?

I need a pair of ivory tights with a simple print for my wardrobe, but I'm stuck between two pairs and too much of a poorfag to spend $80 on both. Both motifs are common in my wardrobe. The stock pics are not great - no worn thread, so does anyone own either of these and can tell me how they are IRL? Or is there a good place I can find pics? People only tag the brand of their main piece on Insta and CoF/Tumblr isn't coming up with anything. Is there a Japanese source I'm not thinking of? Nobody seems to scan recent magazines in full.

>>9448017
Look at IW's JSK and OPs on their website, the models usually wear them with recent tights.

>>9447176
I wish they'd re-release dozing cat
I really want the jsk set in dark red+black

Baby's new release. I am in love with that JSK 1 help me gulls.

>>9447006
Can attest for Anna House being nintendocore. My white blouse was left in a corner of a hotel room, and got vomit on it when someone drank too much during a room party. Miracously after washing it in the sink/at home it was like it never happened.

>>9448268
The multicolored bows on the bodice are so pretty but i hate how large the print is and how its covering the whole dress and not just the border.

>>9448017
I own the crown pair, actually a little while ago was eyeing the same two for needing the exact same kind of thing, ended up getting the crowns because I wear a bit more gothic, haha. I can try and take pics tomorrow hopefully if you'd like, dead of night here and my lighting is awful.

For an idea/reference of how they fit/stretch, I'm 116 lbs, 5'4", 92cm hip, and honestly should lose some weight in my legs, or at least IW socks/tights make me feel like that. My legs stretching out the print more makes the stripes much more obvious than the sample photos, and the crowns a little less stark. Honestly they're really nice though and not as sheer as some IW tights are on me, my skintone doesn't start peeking through until upper thigh, a tiny bit in the knee area.

If you haven't found it yet, they're worn with the British Crown Lace Jumperskirt on the website. Fairly accurate to how they are IRL, I just really feel the vertical stripes are more obvious in person. Not a bad thing though, breaks up the starkness of the ivory.

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Thanks! I managed to find all the worn pics on the website but IW are selling so many long-length dresses at the moment that you only end up with a small flash of the tights, which isn't that helpful in deciding. Pic related. I'm leaning towards crown pattern because it matches slightly more things, but those things are mostly dresses that I already own legwear to match, whereas the floral tights would match a couple of dresses that don't match any other print tights in my wardrobe.

>>9448339
Get the floral ones then, definetly! Sounds like you need them to finally let some or your dresses shine. I'm still a bit interested in them also, might pick them up next IW order, so I'd love to hear how they look IRL and if they're nice and opaque.

>>9447788
thank you anon that translation was super interesting

>>9448268
Deets on this?
When does it release and how much? I need that navy jsk in my life

Exactly when is BtSSB Paris closing? A few weeks ago I ordered an AatP release through them and they didn't mention anything about closing.

>>9446387
The 2010 series Upstairs Downstairs have a minor lesbian couple in the 2nd season.
Set around the late 1930s.

>>9448411
They said they'll close on the 13rd may on their facebook page

Just checked the latest items posted on Closet Child and...am I crazy or are pages 4-8 of Latest New the exact same items? Genuinely chuckling at how they managed to screw that up. Going from so bright you can't see the item and sideways pictures to this, 10/10 as always CC.

>>9448432
ha, I thought I was going stir crazy when I saw that!

>>9447653
Holy shit her wardrobe. Must be nice to have your parents paying everything

>>9448413
but the original series is so much better

>>9448462
I didn't realise there was a link to the video until you posted that and man, those girls look a lot more awkward than I thought. I wish whoever was operating the camera didn't keep shoving it right into people's faces as well, it's unflattering as fuck.

>>9448473
That bothered me too. It's super unflattering and the funky flashy borders/transitions were uggo.
I do appreciate that they let the lolitas themselves talk

>>9448462
it only looks to be about 25-30 dresses/skirts, which isn't really that much. the design of the wardrobe itself is nice though, if that's what you meant. she makes me want to clean my room.

The "death of harajuku/jfashion" threads and the ones about the G&LB closing are down, but since people were arguing in those whether it was a sign lolita was dying or just that altfashion and print magazines were struggling globally I thought people might be interested in this:
http://gothic-charm-school.com/charm/?p=1104

Basically just a goth complaining about the exact same thing, saying their scene is dead and the magazines are closing and things aren't like they were in the good old days. It seems familiar.

>>9448462
what's the time stamp for her wardrobe?

>>9448505
About 10mins in I think it is but here is a picture of the wardrobe with different contents.

>>9447561
>http://www.inumaginfo.com/aupaysdulolitaintegrale18112011-721.html

Oh my i miss when sweet lolita looked like this. The time just before OTT was wonderful. I need to start wearing stickers in my face too, so weird and cute.

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Thank you so much for translating! I've downloaded the clip and I'm in the process of adding these as subtitles, I hope that's okay. I'll upload it later.

Thanks agoin anon-chan

>>9448509
oh shit thanks anon. I didn't realise it was *that* wardrobe! I am all kinds of jealous right now.

>>9448509
Oh my god so that's HER wardrobe holy fuck.

>>9448527
this^^^^

I bought a dress on auction from 2007 and there a bit of stains in the front.
Im trying to remove the stains with dish soap, baking soda and vinegar to no avail. Anyone else have any other ideas for stain removal?

>>9448386
Pricing and deets come out this weekend, apparently Baby's doing an advanced reservation on it for about a week. Guess they're expecting it to be popular.

>>9448509
This looks nice, sure. But it doesn't look like that much? I feel like I have a bigger wardrobe than that..

>>9448671
Look at the wardrobe in the video anon. I used to be in the french comm and this girl had two closets and then had a full dressing room because of how much stuff she had. (her parents were loaded, which is partially why "Josca" was often attacked on the internet)

>>9448462
>tfw you have 50+ dresses that you bought on your own
not everyone's parents buy them everything

>>9448747
I think the only people who say that are poorfags so they can feel better about being too poor or too financially inept to afford lolita on their own.

>>9448765
In this case she was just stating a fact

Putumayu released a two-way blouse in quite a bunch of colors, only posting here as some anons seem to struggle to find matching color blouses.
http://putumayo.co.jp/SHOP/73240013.html

I was going to ask this in the SS thread but it appears to have died.

I bought a bag on mercari about a week and a half ago via Japonica but it hasn't been shipped yet. Japonica are trying to chase it up but I just wondered about what happens if Japonica don't receive the item/a refund.
Will I just lose the money?

>sorry about my shit english

>>9448816
This is awesome, I love detachable sleeves

>>9445127
I got the email back on Sunday night saying I didn't get any of them. I'm so sad, I may just have to buy something to ease the pain. :/

>>9448642
If it's not a light area next to a red/dark area, make a paste of oxyclean powder. Apply directly to the stain. Put a damp cotton ball over it to keep it damp. Wait 30min or so and rinse. You can also dampen the area and lay it in the sun.

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>>9448765
Yeah, except people were talking about a teenage girl who really did have everything bought for her by her parents. There's no need to take everything personally and get defensive.

Is it bad to wear replica shoes if your feet are too big for normal brand shoes? I bought a pair of shoes a while back and just found out they were IW replicas.

>>9448890
that just depends on your opinion, I think it's bad but you didn't do it on purpose so it's ok

>>9448876
>who really did have everything bought for her by her parents
was that actually confirmed though?
just because someone's parents are loaded, it doesn't automatically mean they were buying her dresses.

>>9448890
Tons of people wear replica shoes, it's honestly hard to tell the difference a lot of the time.

>>9448890
It's considered perfectly fine

>>9448896
She was 16 in the video, anon. Her age is listed. Maybe she had a summer job and bought some of the dresses but it's not a stretch to assume her parents bought it for her.

>>9447993
Nope, same for me. It's making me mad because I really want to buy things from them, but I have no idea what the item looks like unless I can hope to find it on their Twitter.

>>9448831
The phone apps hold the money until the item is delivered so I'm thinking japonica would be able to refund you.

>>9446034
Japanese brands also aren't immune from being art thieves themselves.

"Dear Customer,
An apology and announcement of discontinuance · product collection.
Regarding the products of "My Favorite Dress" series which we sold at JaneMarple directly managed stores, handling stores and online shops.
Released from masterpiece by Nishimaki Chiko who has been loved since 1969, textiles imaged from the picture book "My One Piece" (Koguma) without the prior approval from the artists and publishers due to our lack of recognition. After reporting the circumstances later, we received an indication that it is similar to the work of the artist, we decided to stop selling the product and collect it.
Even with our company, we recognized the similarity of expressions and accepted our suggestions and made the decision of this time.
We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused to our customers who are patronizing JaneMarple and everyone involved."

>>9448913
lots of people start working at 16...

>>9449396
Yeah, specially when they have rich ass parents. Also, what kind of summer work did you have that allowed you to buy brand?

>>9448873
Thanks I'll give this a try!

>>9450103
not necessarily about that girl, but have you really never known any 16 year old that had part time jobs at retail stores/restaurants/etc.?