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>> No.9506601

>>9506587
The choice of strongly cream/brown tights here looks a little strange to me but I like this coord overall.

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>gentle concrit

There is no gentle way of saying this is shit in any fashion.

>> No.9506622

>>9506617
I don't see it on the CoF page.

>> No.9506623

>>9506622
Unless she deleted it its there. Im looking at it right now on CoF posted 15 min ago

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>> No.9506626

>>9506591
Bare legs with those shoes feels wrong.

>> No.9506630

>>9506623
it's not deleted, I see it too

>> No.9506632

>>9506599
I'm so glad she's making a comeback. This coord makes me so nostalgic.

>> No.9506641

>>9506617
This is a joke coord, right? Please tell me it's a joke coord.

>> No.9506643
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fat

>> No.9506645

>>9506617
Theres no way to save this and theres no nice way to say it. Power to those trying to be "gentle"

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>>9506643
if you think this is fat, then you must admire all those starving high end fashion models

>> No.9506650

>>9506643
No, no she's not.

>> No.9506651

>>9506648
Don't fall for the bait

>> No.9506652

>>9506589
I love this! I like that she's used her natural hair.

>> No.9506653

>>9506599
I get that it's a style, but the way that her twin tails are falling and clipped makes it look like they're big lumps that would flail around like foam noodles, instead of acting fluidly like real hair.

>> No.9506658

>>9506643
HOW IS THAT FAT?!!!

>> No.9506659

>>9506589
The black pompom earrings kinda blend in with the blouse, lavender or white ones would have looked better imo but this is super cute otherwise, I like it!

>> No.9506668

>>9506617
>Our local community held a Carnival-themed party this afternoon. This is my take on a psychedelic carnival print coordinate for the event
This is why meet hosts should think twice about picking a theme. I've seen otherwise well dressed girls show up in ridiculous get ups for the sake of matching the theme. There's being creative and then there's stuff like this that barely qualifies as lolita in the first place.

>> No.9506670

>>9506668
Idk I think carnival is a pretty open field in terms of coordinating.

>> No.9506674

>>9506670
Not saying there's anything wrong with a carnival theme hypothetically. I'm just taking into account the inevitable increase of odd outfit choices that happen when people sacrifice coherence to match the theme. People are free to have fun and do what they want, but I personally have never been one for themed meets, especially the more outlandish ones.

>> No.9506687

>>9506648
I do. I love how fat girls can go on and on about their bodies being 'beautiful' but when someone posts a thin girl they're suddenly 'ewww starving girl'.

>> No.9506698

>>9506687
I far prefer thinner builds, too, but fatty chans are ripped to shreds on here, it's not like they get a pass over thin people at all. People can go on and on about themselves all they want (fat and thin), but everyone gets criticized, fat people more than thin people.

>> No.9506701

>>9506617
I just saw it like 5 seconds ago. Thought WTF. Ita!

>> No.9506702

>>9506643
I don't consider her fat at all. WTF anon?

>> No.9506703

>>9506687
there's naturally thin and anorexic thin, anon. anorexic thin is just scary

>> No.9506707

>>9506643
She is not fat.

I've seen her cosplay nudes of Mako before and she isn't chunky.

>> No.9506709

>>9506674
Yeah, my worst coords early on were the ones where I didn't have what I needed to match the theme but I still thought I had to fit it instead of just wearing a nice coord.

>> No.9506721

>>9506687
You must live in a bubble because last time I checked being thin is seen as being more beautiful than being fat. Sorry HAES people triggered you into thinking that thinness is bad.

>> No.9506736

>>9506626
desu I hate those shoes, they give everyone cankles no matter what you do.

>> No.9506740

>>9506611
Holy shit i love that blouse! Where can i find it?

>> No.9506742

>>9506617
dream print. I'm so depressed. Nobody can coord this print right!!!

>> No.9506745

>>9506617
Those leggings and shoes though XD

>> No.9506748

>>9506643
Nice bait mate

>> No.9506799

>>9506643
It may be just me but I feel she's lost some weight, good for her. Coord's really cute, it's nice to see some casual coords for ILD

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>>9506617
How did it got accepted? It's not even lolita.
It's just plain terrible, whatever it is.

>> No.9506853

>>9506668
>psychedelic carnival print

I mean it's psychedelic in the sense that it looks like she dropped 4 tabs of blotter before getting dressed.

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did a double take on this one. was scrolling through and getting used to seeing 2 full length shots side by side, so when I got to this one, my brain put the two smaller pics together and came up with some hieronymous bosch shit.

>> No.9506978

>>9506975
That cut is so unforgiving on people with boobs...

>> No.9506985

>>9506975
Her hair looks like a crappy wig and she needs a better bra. Not surprised the holo shoes got tacked on again (as usual).

>> No.9506989

>>9506592
Why the blue hair and the horrible lipstick? The bag doesn't go at all too.

>> No.9506990

>>9506591
I like this from the hem of the skirt upwards - semi-sheer lace tights might make it look more balanced imo

>> No.9506991

>>9506978
I don't think her boobs are all that big though? I think she's just too tall for it, she's slouching horribly and it still hits her above the knee. Imagine if she stood up straight.

>> No.9507014

>>9506985
I like the idea of holo shoes, but she keeps putting them in coords where they just don't work. they seem more fairy kei than lolita. it's kind of a bummer to see something that's actually kinda neat, but used wrong.

same with the lipstick as mentioned by >>9506989 . I really dig odd shades of lipstick, but nobody ever seems to make them look good. it'll match the colours of the coord but then ends up clashing really badly with their skin tone.

>> No.9507017

>>9506602
I love all of her coords.

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I don't even like honey cake and this hurt me to see

That poor jsk and socks, and what the fuck is that cardigan

>> No.9507042

>>9506740
Angelic Pretty Fairy Pearl Blouse :3

>> No.9507044

>>9506643
Your vendetta is showing

>> No.9507047

>>9507042
>:3

Fuck off.

>> No.9507057

>>9507031
I can't get over the shape of her BIG MEATY CLAW jesus

>> No.9507102

>>9507057
Yikes, I didn't even notice that
Fucking god

>> No.9507105

>>9506589
I love this, but I wish she had some boots on like >>9506591

>> No.9507110

>>9506589
This is quite glamorous~

>> No.9507124

>>9507031
my dream dress :'(

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do you ever get so mad that you

>> No.9507171

>>9506643
Why do I feel like she's posted this exact coord before?

>> No.9507172

>>9507129
I just fucking choked omg anon

>> No.9507175

Slim pickings for this ILD

>> No.9507205

Whoa, when did simply come back?
Or have I not been paying attention?

>> No.9507206

>>9507031
I get so pissed when I see other girls who are much bigger than me every where else but have smaller boobs so they can squeeze into my dream dresses.

>> No.9507207

>>9506643
not fat, but where is the petti....

>> No.9507221

>>9507206
I know this feel so hard. Blouses are damn near impossible too.

>> No.9507224

>>9506617
She only replied to the comments sucking up to her. What's the point of concrit if she doesn't use it?
Low key judging anyone who likes this shitty coord.

>> No.9507229

>>9507224
Lol I'm high-key judging.

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>>9507205
You didn't post her?

Someone needs to dump the new CoF submissions.

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>>9507239

>> No.9507241

>>9507239
Ah shit.

My post dropped the image. Sorry.

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>>9507240
I'm posting HD and I'm done for the night.

>> No.9507244

>>9507229
Most of them are the people from the same Comm so it's just a circle jerk anyways.

>> No.9507354

>>9507244
Everyone who posted coords from the same event was an eyesore. What comm was it?

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>>9507354
Im sorry if any have been posted earlier

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>>9507356

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I really like this, the dress is fancy enough that it still looks nice without a ton of other bullshit.

>> No.9507394

>>9507361
>petti is slipping down
>white tights
>cream shoes
>no wrist wear

It needs a lot of work

>> No.9507410

>>9507354
They're from the Singapore Comm. It seems like they had a closed ILD event, many girls weren't invited and it ended up being mostly itas anyway.
I've seen photos of their other meets and there are other decent/good lolitas. Just not this bunch.

>> No.9507414

>>9507356
>>9507357
Unstyled hair really brings down a coord. Just a bit of curled bangs and having the ends of the ponytails curled would have improved these so much.

>> No.9507419

>>9507394
Agreed on most but why the hell would wristwear be obligatory with long sleeved blouse?

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>> No.9507437

>>9506668
it's a theme that can be interpreted so many ways, plus you can always ignore the theme. but my comm mostly has generic themes like floral or nautical.

>> No.9507439

>>9507419
I didn't say it was obligatory? It's a nitpick if anything. You can have bracelets with long sleeves.

>> No.9507443

>>9507357
Is this the special set or a replica? What is going on with the border and the huge bow on the front

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>>9507443
Looks like a replica from My Lolita Dress. I found this stock image for the black one on Google.

>> No.9507451

>>9507447
Nah it's probably the special set. Still looks like ass

>> No.9507678

>>9507447
That one has only 1 pearl on each side of the bow, while the one worn in the picture has 3 on each side. Plus, you can tell it's actually the special set because of the construction of that bow. The middle section is proportional to the ends in width and length.

It's still a weird looking dress, though.

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>tfw you see the itas roll up to the meet

>> No.9507683

>>9507428
Nothing makes me cringe harder than people carrying their shitty dolls around in matching outfits. You're not 6, that's not cute.

>> No.9507690

>>9507683
Agreed, I've always thought it was creepy. And not in a 'oh wow she's so spoopy' creepy, but the kind of creepy where you put your backpack next to you on the bus so they can't sit next to you.

>> No.9507721

>>9507239
Damn, that's simply? She really improved over the years! She looks a million times better now!

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>>9507443
Looks like the special set honestly
>I have the regular release SC jsk but I'd kill to get the lavender special set

>> No.9507754

>>9507240
Gypsy-kei

>> No.9507777

>>9507721
Is that really her? I thought she looked familiar!

>> No.9507816

>>9507057
It looks like a starfish

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This girl made a salt inspired coord

>> No.9507821

>>9507819
I love it. I tried to be Morton salt girl for Halloween one year but didn't pull it off half as well as her.

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I'm gonna try to post everything not posted yet for you since I got some free time but wew there are so many posts today

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>tfw i have like 40 images to post
bruh

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actually fuck it there are like over 60 posts i'm too lazy for this so here's an ita

>> No.9507871

>>9507240
I get what she's going for but it just looks incomplete to me.
>>9507242
Really cute
>>9507356
Don't quite like that print nor navyxblack >>9507361
White underskirt and ivory blouse/socks don't really work for me, I wonder if that's a wig or her natural hair.

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>>9507837
I'll pick up for you, anon. I'm bored.

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>>9507890

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>>9507892

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>>9507894

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>>9507898

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>>9507899

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>>9507903

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>>9507904

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>>9507905

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>>9507907

>> No.9507910

>>9507892
Love this pic. The coords aren't 100% perfect but they are cute as hell and the forest setting is so nice and peaceful. Lolita squad goals.

>>9507895
The limp hair actually works here but the shitty photo quality makes me sad.

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>>9507908

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>>9507916

>> No.9507924

>>9507903
Coord aside this girl is just flat out pretty.

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>>9507925

>> No.9507929

>>9507892
This reminds me of one of those tinder pics where you can't tell who the focus is.
Also didn't big eyes on the left already post that coord?

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>>9507936

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>>9507939

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>>9507942

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>>9507944

>> No.9507946

>>9507890
Thanks anony

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>>9507945

>>9507946
i got u senpai

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>>9507949

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>>9507951

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>>9507953

>> No.9507957

>>9507837
Ehh, nitpick at best.

>> No.9507958
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>>9507956

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>>9507958

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>>9507959

>> No.9507962

>>9507959
I saw the thumbnail and thought she was wearing a "cat in the hat" hat.

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>>9507960

>> No.9507966

>>9507959
The thumbnail of this made me think that giant feather was a chimney hat. Kind of disappointed it's not. More disappointed by those unnecessary ankle socks over her otks/stockings

>> No.9507967
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>>9507963

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>>9507967

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>>9507971

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>>9507973

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>>9507974

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>>9507975

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>>9507976

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>>9507978

>> No.9507981

>>9507976
I think I saw at least 7 girls wearing this dress for ILD yesterday. It's pretty cute, I'll end up buying one for myself. But, what are these donuts as headpieces? It works, and it's ok, but it's so silly.

>> No.9507982
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>>9507980

>> No.9507983

>>9507939
her selfies are always so terrifying.... she really needs to learn about flattering angles
>>9507956
i love this... sauce on the dress?

>> No.9507984

>>9507980
That weird teal color drowns out everything else :(

>> No.9507986
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>>9507982

>>9507981
It's a tokidoki headband, so they're pretty easy to get a hold of and commonly worn with this dress.

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>>9507986

>> No.9507991

>>9507986
Thanks for the info, helpful anon!

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>>9507990

>> No.9507997
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>>9507994

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>>9507997

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>>9507999

>> No.9508004

>>9506985
I'm worried the whole holo shoes shit will get more popular, I've never seen anyone put them in an lolita outfit that works.

>> No.9508005
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>>9508001

>> No.9508008
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>>9508005

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>>9508008

>> No.9508010

>>9507990
I didn't realize she was wearing a salo at first. It's cute for a casual coord.

>>9507999
I'm not a huge fan of the bag but this is really lovely overall.

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>>9508009

>> No.9508013

>>9507683
>>9507690
Don't be so cruel, gulls. That's probably the only thing that would ever twin with her.

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>>9508012

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>>9508012
Sorry for the repost on the last one.

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>>9508015

>> No.9508018

>>9508009
I like this! Just wish the colors weren't so washed out in the photo.

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>>9508017
Ah shit, looks like I've reposted a couple already, I wasn't paying attention. Forgive me

>> No.9508020

>>9507105
Those bordello boots would look horrendous with it, shoes are definitely better.

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>>9508019
Okay yeah I'm gonna end the dump here

>> No.9508023

>>9507939
in the thumnail, the left side looks like she's standing behind a window frame and showing off her monstrously huge hands.

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>> No.9508031

>>9507939
She's really improving. She'll figure out how to take a flattering picture eventually, but I'm glad she ditched the harsh makeup.

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>>9508044

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>>9508046

>> No.9508050
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>>9508048

>> No.9508052
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>>9508050

>> No.9508065

>>9508009
I feel like the cutting of the dress isn't very flattering. Does it look loose to anyone else?
Also the sleeves of the blouse makes her look bigger than she is.

>> No.9508072

>>9507819
this was hilarious and well done

>> No.9508075

>>9507916
if the creams and whites were more consistent this coord would be nice, but the stark whites up top and creams at the bottom don't mix well.

>> No.9508076

>>9507997
Sauce on this dress? tia!

>> No.9508083

>>9508026
I thought this was nearly flawless save for the bow on the back of her head but I've never cared for that look so that's just a personal little nitpick

>> No.9508107

>>9507683
The doll is cute, it's the bear that's creepy

>> No.9508118

>>9507960
She is so freaking cute. Who is she?

>> No.9508122

>>9508076
pretty sure that is truly darlings dress they are promoting right now. should be seeing more soon.

>> No.9508127

>>9508122
It is. They will have a shop in Tampa next week.

>> No.9508133
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Small dump incoming

>> No.9508136
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>>9508133

>> No.9508138
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mini dump incoming!

>> No.9508139
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>>9508136

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>>9508138

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>>9508138
>>9508139
uh oh

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>>9508140

>> No.9508144
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>>9508141

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>>9508142

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>>9508147
Done.

>> No.9508158
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>>9508149
The apron throws off the colour balance completely.

>> No.9508161
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>>9508158

>> No.9508164
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>>9508161
Salt-chan.

>> No.9508166

>>9508158
an overdress is hard to pull off with a sweet print

>> No.9508175

>>9508164
Hasn't this been posted twice already in this thread?

>> No.9508190

>>9507819
she's the saltiest person i've ever met so this coord suits her

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>>9508194

>> No.9508197
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>>9508196
This one is really cute

>> No.9508198
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>>9508197
I love pina sweets collection and wish more people were into them

>> No.9508200
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>>9508198
This one is just sad

>> No.9508203
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>>9508200

>> No.9508206
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>>9508203
This is twinning well done. I wish she posted a bigger photo of themselves together

>> No.9508209
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>>9508206

>> No.9508210
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>>9508209

>> No.9508211
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>>9508210
I like this one even though it isn't really traditional lolita

>> No.9508212
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>>9508211

>> No.9508213
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>>9508212

>> No.9508223

>>9508158
Wasn't there someone else who did the same thing with the apron and Sweet Cream Room?

>> No.9508236

>>9508210
the clashing browns aren't working for me

>> No.9508238

>>9508044
i love her so goddamn much

>> No.9508242

>>9508238
>her

>> No.9508244

>>9508211
>blush on her nose
Because chronic alcoholism is so kawaii

>> No.9508245

>>9508244
it's more kawaii than having a stick up your ass, anon

>> No.9508249

>>9508242
Does it matter? If you're going to go through that much effort I am going to call you a her. She looks stunning and her coords are perfect.

>> No.9508250

>>9508244
>>9508245
I am for sure going to try this make up look next time.

>> No.9508251
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>> No.9508253

>>9508249
He's beautiful and far better dressed than many girls itt, but he's not a girl.

>> No.9508258 [DELETED] 

>>9508249
newfag detected

>> No.9508260

>>9508211
Her face is so adorable
>>9508140
This apron is so confusing over busy prints
>>9508048
Perfection as always
>>9507963
Why would he think this background was a good idea?
>>9507939
So much improvement. Just wish she would style the bangs a bit.

>> No.9508261

>>9508249
She's extra nice in person too-- she was in town for one of our meets a while ago.
>>9508253
Ehh, I sort of agree with the sentiment, but I guess I'm of the opinion that it's like literally next to no effort for me to use the pronouns someone likes and it makes them happy, so why not?

>> No.9508266 [DELETED] 

>>9508261
So you know him, personally, and know he prefers female pronouns?

>> No.9508267

>>9508260
I don't actually mind the background all that much, at least she's centered. Not the biggest fan of her sock and shoe choice though.

>> No.9508271

>>9508260 oh anon >>9507963 is a girl .... awkward

>> No.9508284

>>9508271
My bad

>> No.9508286

>>9508052
Something about this girl's face never looks right to me. Is it shooped?

>> No.9508287

>>9508261
aa just uses 'they' pronouns on facebook

>> No.9508301

>>9508015
This is a lovely coord. What a cutie!

>> No.9508361

>>9508301
>cutie
Um, what? That eye makeup is jacked and she has that weird spermy eyebrow thing going on.

>> No.9508365 [DELETED] 

>>9508261
>>9508287
He identifies as a man.

>> No.9508380
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I'll do a dump and try to not post duplicates but all the mini dumps from random times might make it hard.

>> No.9508387
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>>9508380

>> No.9508389
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>>9508387

>> No.9508396
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>>9508389

>> No.9508399
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>>9508396

>> No.9508400
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>>9508399
Mother daughter twinning...

>> No.9508403
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>>9508400
Coord is cute but could've done without the closeup on the cheap looking accessories sprawled across her dirty hands :(

>> No.9508404
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>>9508403
Pretty but kind of not exactly lolita

>> No.9508406
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>>9508404
Round glasses on a round-shape face, esp with unflattering bangs, is not best choice. Coord is good though.

>> No.9508410

Anon currently dumping, it might make it easier on you if you go to the Photos tab in the group and save them from there, that way you get them in chronological order.

>> No.9508411

>>9508400
Sorry but this is adorable

>> No.9508412
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>>9508406

>> No.9508415
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>>9508412
The basic elements are good but the tights and headpiece are very ugly imho

>>9508410
That's what I did, but people went in different orders, (ie some started at the oldest and went to newest, some just picked up wherever, i think some posted what ever they saw on their feed). I scrolled thru the thread and deleted any repeats i had saved so Im hoping i'll do a good job.

>> No.9508418
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>>9508415

>> No.9508419
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>>9508418
I think legwear with gold details with motfits from the dress would balance things out more and make the theme more cohesive. Could be a lot worse thouhgh

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>>9508419

>> No.9508426
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>>9508424

>> No.9508428
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>>9508426
I think legwear and a different bag would really elevate this. It looks wearable and cute as is though!

>> No.9508429
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>>9508428
Shoehorned red........

Also we are approaching image limit so i'll be stopping soon

>> No.9508432
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>>9508429
10/10 would wear to work or out shopping alone

>> No.9508434
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>>9508432
Her post said she was new so I have hope for her to improve color balancing and styling.

>> No.9508436
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>>9508434

>> No.9508438
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>>9508436

>> No.9508439
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>>9508438

>> No.9508444
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>>9508439
Last one! It's kinda sloppy with bow placement and details but I like it overall.

>> No.9508446

>>9508439
There's nothing special about the coord itself but her smile makes me happy.

>> No.9508458

>>9508429
>bubbling out at the waist
>bubble tea drink in hand
Oh honey, no. Excess sugar is your worst enemy if you have a belly..

>> No.9508468

>>9508022
I really like this. I love the red colour, the tights. She looks really cute!

>> No.9508470

>>9508142
Great to see guys dressing up. I would have liked some tights though.

Maybe some more white on the blouse too.

But good on him for getting out in heels.

>> No.9508472

>>9508161
Just one more small red accessory in the hair like a ribbon or a cherry and this would be a completed coordinate for me. It is a bit of a nitpick though.

>> No.9508473
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>>9508223
Yes, like a week ago. It's like an exact copy.

>> No.9508474

>>9507959
It's cute but not Lolita.

>> No.9508476

>>9508200
The coordinate itself is not bad.
If she styled her hair and changed the lip colour I don't think this would look so bad.

>> No.9508545

>>9508190
Deets, dear anon? Someone posted something similar in the local comm thread

>> No.9508548

>>9508406
The mismatched browns are unforgivable. And please burn that wig. Its ratty. Also black + brown = oh hell no

>> No.9508562

>>9508197
This one made me uncomfortable and I'm not sure why.

>> No.9508566

>>9508562
Same

>> No.9508620

>>9508436
This is the new ita dress

>> No.9508650

>>9508149
>>9508387
I'm kinda sad that there weren't many stained glass prints this ILD, I'm a collector and it's always nice to see how people deal with the avalanche of colors this kind of print usually brings. These two went for the safe spot, but I loved both coords.

>> No.9508696

>>9507918
How tf did she get it on?

>> No.9508700

>>9508424
Looks like she's being held hostage and forced to take these pics.

>> No.9508717

>>9508261
Where did you get the idea that they like female pronouns?

>> No.9508728

>>9507986
AUGHH that's my dream dress that I missed the pre-order for. She looks cute, but my heart hurts whenever I see it. I wanted it so freaking bad.

>> No.9508729

>>9508728
Actually, I was so focused on the dress I didn't really look at the rest of the coord. It's not mind blowing, but that dress is still haunting my dreams.

>> No.9508767
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9508767

It doesn't matter how much you show off your fake tits, you're still gonna look like a dude in a dress...

>> No.9508782

>>9508767
I'm disappointed by this honestly. Lolita 101: don't show off you titties. I know she's excited to have them, but come on.

>> No.9508789

>>9508767
They always look like they're doing a "bar wench" cosplay

>> No.9508795

>>9508767
That is rude. She is very nice. If you don't like trans then you can piss off.
Bloody wanker

>> No.9508802

>>9508795
... She really isn't nice at all and her face is manly enough to be distracting. She's got the cash, so maaaybe it would be worth it to put more effort into passing. 'Cause yeah, no one is buying that A suits lolita at all as it stands.

>> No.9508810

>>9508795
Anon, as rude or whatever as the comment was, it's true. She needs to invest in FFS if she ever wants to pass. Fake tits pushed up to high heaven doesn't a passing trans make. It's not about hating trans people.

>> No.9508845

>>9508810
Exactly. If you want to be treated like everyone else prepare to be judged like everyone else.

>> No.9508851

It was so obviously bait and you still took it.

>> No.9508852

Some salty people here.

>> No.9508854

>>9507963
I can always recognise her by those massive daikon legs.

>> No.9508857

>>9507394
>petti
Thats an underskirt

>> No.9508865

>>9508795
>That is rude.
Are you lost?

>> No.9508871

>>9508854
That is by far the most creative description I've heard yet

>> No.9508946

>>9507871
natural hair

>> No.9508953

>>9508434
Kawaii homeless man

>> No.9508964

>>9507129
Wow.

>> No.9508972

>>9508852
You new?

>> No.9509087

>>9508767
Of all the feminine fashions she can wear to show off her tits she chooses lolita? ffs

>> No.9509097

>>9508700
She always tries to do the surly Risa Larme look but ends up looking like a grouchy old lady.
>which is actually my aesthetic

>> No.9509112

>>9509087
What's wrong? You upset you can't wear stuff like that?
Stop being jelly.

>> No.9509113

>>9509112
>jealous

Kek, please

>> No.9509182

>>9509112
I know her white knight army likes to post here but jesus christ. She used to dress a lot better but now she's only ever in ill fitting ageplay Frozen dresses or has her tits hanging out. She's clearly regressed into fetish territory.
Also she's just flat out a huge bitch. She trash talks people the minute they leave the room. she's really not worth defending, jfc.

>> No.9509224

>>9506587
love those IC shoes! I forget I have them in purple and should use them in coords more often.
this is adorable and I love the way the color in the legwear brings out some of the cats in the dress print.

>> No.9509226

>>9506599
I don't think the color of the accessories match the print all that well at all.

>> No.9509415

>>9509112
The community gives her a pass on showing cleavage just because she's trans and "she's nice." She just ends up looking even more visually dissonant because of the way she's dressing now. Her whole "nice" thing is such a fake act to barter for acceptance despite her face.

>> No.9509499

>>9508444
That cutsew does not fit her boobs. Not a good look.

>> No.9509520

>>9508399
That boobloaf tho

>> No.9510784

>>9508795
She's very "nice", but she's the kind of person that will stir drama. She also expects people to do whatever she wants to do at meets and gets pissed off if you don't follow her lead.

>> No.9510790

>>9508802
A couple years ago she'd post photos on the comms and I thought she always looked well put together (except for her face. That's always given me nightmares. ), but recently I've noticed that she's started wearing JSKs without blouses and trying to show off her fake boobs all the time and it's tacky as hell.