/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9639430
Szechuan Sauce print when?

Why are Rick and Morty fags everywhere? It's not even that great of a show. Don't bring that cancer into lolita please.

>>9639464
>>9639430
Why have you made this unkawaii show the lolita general's pic? It's not relevant in any shape or form and I don't wanna be stuck looking at these ugly cartoon faces for the whole time the general's active. I vote someone make a new general that isnt shit

>>9639489
>other people aren't allowed to enjoy things that I don't like!

>>9639492
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick and Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existencial catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Rick and Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

>>9639492
Enjoy it, just keep it out of lolita
I don't see how that concept is hard to understand. And stop expecting people to be receptive to it just because you like it.

>>9639494
Never though I'd see this copypasta on cgl

>>9639491
1. I'm not OP
2. Who peed on your brand?

>>9639494

>>9639489
youre a load of fun arent you

>>9639491
Rick and Morty is the kawaiiest show. I want to do a Meseeks coord.

You people sound like my mom, who hates R&M. Except she thinks it's called "Morty and Super Pickle."

>>9639496
There's a bunch of king of the hill lolita pics posted all the time and no one bitches about those. I don't see how this one is any different

>>9639521
You don't know shit, then. Those are reaction images/memes that are common across a lot of boards, edited to be /cgl/ friendly. They're old and widely accepted as part of 4chan. Rick and the Pickle Show has a self-proclaimed strong reddit fanbase and OPs pic comes across as a haphazard, sub-par forced meme.

Where did people get the new AP lookbook? what sort of events are these released at? I would love to own a copy.

>>9639529
I agree with this

>>9639535
Aren’t you just supposed to buy it? I’m not sure if you have to make a purchase to add it to your cart or something but it’s listed at about 900 yen on AP’s website.

I think it's weird AP doesn't show their lookbook online (for free). Lookbooks are supposed to be promotional material.

I thought Milanoo was dead and buried but nope, these days they are ripping Kawaii Pateen videos to sell their shitty products

Anon in last thread who wanted to know where to get alice auaa, Tokyo Alice have a lot

>>9639535
ive usually gotten mine in store or at cons. Generally theyre given when you spend a certain amount (at least everytime ive shopped) or you can buy them for 900 yen/9 usd.

No worn thread so... requesting photos of this worn except for the pink and white colorway. Ill take coords with the skirt I have the skirt and debaiting buying the OP but i cant coord it because nothing matches the skirt. The white of the skirt is so bright and i cant match the burgundy with any of the 6 other items i bought hoping it would match.

How do you make a petticoat shorter without damaging it? If I roll it up at the waistband it looks bad.

So the people who made Eternita are apparently moving on to a new magazine called Miel. Does anyone know why? It's really weird to leave Eternita after 1 issue only to start another lolita magazine.

>>9639629
I don't know but I want to buy Eternita and I can't find it anywhere.

What about melt? Will there be a second issue soon? I hope they'll ad makeup, hair and sewing stuff. The first issue was rather boring.

>>9639430
disgusting.

>>9639640
They did have make-up and hair in the first issue. What was boring about it? The styling? I thought the urban photoshoot were rather refreshing.

>>9639649
Oh, then I haven't seen those. I only went through it very fast, as I couldn't afford it at the point I saw it at the store. The photoshootings were nice though.

Comm goals

>>9639679
You have pretty low expectations.

>>9639687
Their fatty-chans wear thing that fit them, they organised their first ''official'' tea-party and people were better dressed and had better food and prices than at two of the street fashion europe events I've been to, and the person who wrote the article didn't talk about herself.

Does anyone know what the designer of Mukuro is doing now? I've seen the brand in a few old magazines but I don't know the url or anything to look it up in waybackmachine. I read here http://lolita-indies.livejournal.com/30005.html that the designer was starting a new brand.

Or if someone knows a similar brand that would be great too, doesn't have to be Japanese. I especially love the circle cut-out blazer and their polkadot stuff.
>>9639692

Hi! Didn't find a price check post, so I'll try here.
Does anyone have any idea of the value of this JSK (moi meme moitie Jewelry Print in red) ? I found one for 250USD on LM, but it feels like scalping. I bought mine for 160USD two years ago, so I'm not sure of the actual price...

>>9639710
I don't know but it would be perfect for a christmas coord

>>9639732
You're right! The only downside is that the golden details aren't as bright as the stock photos. They're almost brown, with no shimmer.

>>9639736
Maybe it was washed the wrong way, does it look uneven?

>>9639620
>>9639546
didn't even realize it was on the website. thanks!

>>9639736
That's so sad, it must have been such a disappointment. Who knows, maybe >>9639757
is right and you'll get a new one that wasn't washed incorrectly and it'll have that nice stock photo shimmer!

>>9639679
>>9639690
What comm / tea party is this?

>>9639687
You got too high standards

>>9639638
Amazon.jp

>>9639794
No matter what I try I get this, plus I don't know how to pay on amazon.jp because I don't have a creditcard.

>>9639757
>>9639769
Oh, when I first bought it I though I had been scammed with a fake, but then I searched for other owners' personal photos and it seems that everyone's was like pic attached? I don't know, maybe the age made it look like it? It doesn't look uneven, it's just not bright gold...

>>9639840
It should look like pic related

>>9639840
Just looking at past lm auctions for this dress, while it hasn’t been put up in red the black and the blue have crisp prints. Either yours got fucked by a previous owner or it isn’t legit. I don’t think there is many MMM fakes tho.

>>9639854
the one on lm is also the same way

>>9639855
From a 2015 listing in the same cut. Pretty clear. Tbf it is silver on the blue.

>>9639840
Ther red color isn't very popular, is it? I tried searching some pictures, but wasn't very lucky. Anyway, here's a green one for comparison. I think it looks a bit different from the stock pictures, but better than this red you posted.

>>9639779
Ntayrt, Singapore.

I knew some of those faces looked familiar. Physical drop had a tea party there in August. Oh man, this kinda makes me miss seeing meetup posts and pics of Black Alice when it was still around.

>>9639888
Physical Drop had a tea party in New York today.

>>9639888
There are a lot of meet-up posts on kerastyle now. It's almost as if they took inspiration from livejournal.

What's the opinion on the Kera international reports?

I like the big event reports, the one about old school seems also quite popular right now.

>>9639529
B-But I thought this was AMURRICA! lol jk here have another one.

>>9639948
I like them but it feels like kera didn't give them many guidelines, like the singapore one was really nice and informative but then some people just treat it like their personal blog post or something.

>>9639931
I really appreciate that.

>>9639912
Naisu.

I asked this in the last thread but are there any lolita sellers coming to NYCC? Any lolita's even going? I was hesitant to go but I got a cheap ticket.
>at least rilakkuma will be there

Remember when petticoats were called paniers and drama was called wank?

I just saw a lolita walking around my flat blocks, if you're reading this allen court lolita your coord was super cute!

>>9639520
this board is not for 12 year olds

>>9640042
I'll be going if my friend can get me a free ticket, he got some last year but idk about this one

>>9639797
Serious question, how can you be in this hobby and not have a credit card? It boggles my mind when I come across adults who don't have a debit or credit card.

>>9639797
you need to use japonica

>>9639840
100% thats been washed wrong. many MMM prints arent water safe or are very fragile. some of their iron on prints have even been seen peeling off like school glue on skin

>>9640068
You go to a store and buy a prepaid, it also helps to stop identity theft.

>>9639610
closet child also has a bunch at the moment

Closet Child coat dump when???

>>9640068
My bank refuses to let me get a credit card. I'm 23 and have a steady job. Some banks are really anal about who they accept and who they don't. I mostly use Paypal and prepaid cards.

>>9639621

No worn pics, but do you want my OP for $40 shipped? Not even kidding. I just want it gone.

>>9640098
You need to apply for a secured credit card then with your bank. You will have put up a minimum amount of at least $500.

>>9640070
Gosh, that's so sad.

>>9640100
NAYRT but if they decline I'll hit you up for that on Friday

>>9640068
A few years back, I met a guy in his late 30s with a cc that had a 1k limit on it, so I dunno if that's better or worse than not having a card at all. There's a lot of fearmongering surrounding credit in the US at least, with the latest equifax hack not helping.

>>9640098
Where do you live that this is the case? At the moment I have absolutely shit credit and no job and was able to open an account at a credit union, no questions asked.

>>9640068
PayPal. You don't even need to have a cc to use it if you don't mind linking in your bank account.

This is a little dumb because I've been in this fashion for almost a decade, but when do the next lucky packs come out? I'm specifically interested in AP and Meta. I know they do new year, but do they do halloween, too?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/729ltw/asian_lolita_brands_not_catering_to_western_plus/

Laughs

>>9640196
>racism against plus sized people
kek

>>9640196
>Brohoof
Disgusting.

What is this?

>>9640180
You haven't been in the fashion for almost a decade, don't lie. We have a thread going on for dumb jfashion questions, you could have gone and asked them.

Now go to your room and think about what you've done.

>>9640206

>>9640206
>>9640208
You know, you can press the view translation action on the Instagram post, Akko.

>>9639679
aww I recognize the Mam Lovely model front right in brown. she's pretty adorable.

but also the one girl mid left who constantly tries to coord full-length corsets and refuses to create nice silhouettes. I will never forget the metallic purple leggings...

>>9640146

I'll keep you posted! Email is in the name field. Are you in the US by chance?

>>9640174
Alright but why would you have a bank account and no debit card?

>>9640153
A $1000 limit indicates at least mediocre credit, if not better. At least he doesn't need a secured card. He's probably doing fine.

>>9640218
>jk I'm blind, that's not one of the Lovely line models
>still cute!

>>9640213
The "show translation" doesent show up on this post. Didn't show up for me either.

>>9640070
I heard most MMM should be washed and not dry cleaned because of the possibility of the print melting. Do I have it all backwards?

>>9640070
>>9640230

Screen prints should not be dry cleaned, the solvents can sometimes dissolve the print itself.

Someone mentioned the same problem in the MMM thread. I wonder if there's some overzealous owner there that is dry cleaning their entire lolita wardrobe without reading the care tags?

>>9640068
I never need one

>>9640206
I believe the designer is goint to an event in a certain place and you could already submit questions for her. (Which will, be asked at the event.) Nothing interesthing for overseas Lolita, the tweet about it also didn’t got translated by baby’s english twitter.

>>9639710
>>9639840
You unknowingly paid 160 for a damaged dress, 250 for the dress without a damaged print is a decent price

>>9640050
Ahh those were good times

>>9640303
>>9640070
see >>9639855

>>9639840

Found this one on lj is next to the green.

http://daily-lolita.livejournal.com/5458101.html

>>9640196
Does theperson from the facebook screenshot really have a MLP setting for facebook? That is cringe on it's own.

>>9640326
It isn’t tho? Show us the damaged one that sold for 250, the rest on lm are good.

>>9640196
>clicking through the leddit history of whoever posted that
>mfw she's an ageplaying kinkster who thinks she's a witch
>mfw she's also in the new egl discord

not to mention the MLP setting. absolutely disgusting.

>>9640207
Brands change when they do lucky bags. I know Moitie did Halloween ones before, but didn't have them last year. Do you think people in the dumb questions thread know that kind of stuff? Imo your best bet is asking the brand/shop directly.

>>9640328
Adorable

Milanoo is at it again

>>9640342
Here, anon https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/moi-meme-moitie-jewelry-print-jsk

>>9640328
The red does seem less bright than the store photos, though.

>>9640342
>keeps posting examples of the silver print even though the gold is the one in question
>can't even find the listing with the most basic of searches

>>9640374
>>9639577
You'd think they would know where to quit by now, but nope. Anyone know how to contact Kawaii Pateen so they can take that shit down? This video was clearly not taken with their permission

>>9639690
Nice try at trying to harp your comm on here. You do realise that it's not how cgl works right? Stop trying to turn the Singapore comm into some weird branding. They'll never replace TPC.

>>9639626
Sew it shorter. I have one I cut off (right below the elastic with a seam allowance added) and resewed to the waistband higher. It looks good. Another is too big and long, I need to either cut the waist band smaller or cut off and make a whole new waistband. Pretty easy

>>9639679
>Second row far left

Cute! Cute cute

>>9640416
Literally wtf,you are reading far too deep into this mate

>>9640226
>What is Google translate

>>9640423
They've been shilling the comm with the whole logo and branding. I haven't seen any other comm try this damn hard.

>>9640443
Do you mean the Kera logo

>>9640448
Nah they have another one that they use for comm events

>>9640458
Still, it's not that serious. It's just a random comm event post from Kera that I appreciated and I don't know anything about their comm. I don't think Singaporeans even go here and if they do they probably wouldn't be dumb enough to compete with a dead London comm.

>>9640355
Wowwwww, I'm ashamed that I commented on the picture now

There's a shitty brolita who told a SJW that rape culture wasn't real in the comments in lolita humor (the main pic is a girl posting some guy who messaged her on IG linking a pic of her in lolita telling her he would fugg her like that, ensuing lots of "MEN" and "another proof that men are trash",...)

Why can't these people just leave the fashion already and be nuisances elsewhere?

>>9640481
Caps?

>>9640485
Can I post caps? Last time someone got banned for "singling out!1!"/"dramu" just by posting caps.

>>9640488
block the names, and hopefully it'll be okay?

>>9640485
>>9640488
>>9640490
Person in question is in red.

>>9640495

>>9640495
Went to check his profile, he said muslims are the same as nazis.
As much as I dislike muslims, wew.
Also
>kekistan video
>use normie to describe people that don't know about kekistan
Yeesh

>>9640481
>>9640495
>told a SJW that rape culture wasn't real
That's not what I'm getting from these comments. The "be a sexist" remark is pretty tasteless but if anything saying that women do shitty things too only reinforces the existence of rape culture and how it applies to every gender.

>>9640500

>>9640504
Must be a /pol/tard. I keep away from /pol/.

>>9640506
Now they're talking about rape culture.

>>9640505
Yeah,he's right in a way but god, telling a SJW that rape culture isn't real is like giving someone the stick to beat you with

>>9640508

>>9640511
Brings up "rape culture" again.

>>9640513

>>9640514
I have a bachelor's in criminal justice. Good lord.

>>9640517

>>9640521

>>9640523

god, this thing is hilarious, they're both so stupid.
>admin turned off comments for this publication
lol

>>9640524
Should I keep going? I ought to be paid in frills for this.

>>9640525
We've come to the point neither group wins an argument. We all get Participation Trophies at the end.

>>9640526

>>9640517
>click on /cgl/ for the first time in months
>First post I see is talking about sexual harassment

>>9640528

>>9640529
I'm so sorry, but this is the state of lolitas on the internet in 2017.

>>9640530

>>9640532

>>9640534

>>9640536
s/o to my friend, Voldie for showing up in this thread. Mod is in yellow.

>>9640538
Last part of the juicy drama. Everything is basically a reaction instead of discussing "rape culture".


I need to go feed my kitty. He's hungry.

>>9640539
Thank you for your work, caption anon. Tell your cat I love him for me.

>>9640529
SJW culture ruined everything.
That and thirsty men that behave rudely.

>>9640539
Bless you anon

>>9640550
>dude things nazi's and moslims are the same
>SJW are the problem!!

Do they even wear lolita though?

>>9640566
Not saying he's not retarded.
The girl wears lolita,surprisingly,and the guy wears it too.

>>9640398
Image boards mean you post images. It is duller but not close to the damaged one up there.

>>9640603

>>9639494

>>9640068
I'm a mid-twenties Eurofag, most people my age here don't have a cc because we never need one. The only time we need one is if we travel internationally and in that case I use my boyfriend's and pay him back later. For online shopping I use PayPal.

>>9640699
I don't even need one when I travel desu, only for foreign airlines which I don't use

Does Japonica or Chibi Tenshi message sellers to haggle on prices on your part? There's a dress I'm looking at buying but I've seen it sell for half the asking price so I wanted to try and get the price down a bit.

>>9640207
This used to be a really laughable claim but it's not that dumb anymore. It used to be you would have had to travel to japan in the late 90s/early 00s and other implausible things, but egl on LJ was decently popular in 2006-2007 and you could buy things online by that point. It's not that stupid of a claim.

>>9640759
If someone has been in the fashion for a decade and genuinely doesn't know when lucky packs come out they might actually be retarded. I'm not joking when I say that.

>>9640727
Doubt it since trying to negotiate can get you blocked which is why most reputable SS's don't do it. Either buy the dress at their asking price or wait it out.

>>9640761
She said the next lucky packs, it would be different if she doesn't know about new years but there are lucky packs at random times of the year now and it can be different every year.

>>9640764
My SS does it and it has worked a few times, mostly they don't want to go much lower though. One time someone went 150 yen lower for me on a 24000 dress lol (I offered 21000).

>>9640727
> I've seen it sell for half the asking price
And? I've seen Honey Cake's sell for $100 on Japan's secondhand market, doesn't mean it's fair to haggle if it's listed at $200. For the most part, far more than lace market, items sold on Japanese secondhand sites are reasonably priced or cheap.

I'm not a Lolita but I recently got an offer to "collaborate" with Devil Inspired. I've seen you guys talk about it a bit and I feel like I shouldn't accept but I'm also not sure if I'm not finding the correct negative reviews to turn it down.
They also want a YT video, blog post AND IG post for just the free item. The one I would choose would probably be below $50 (since not a Lolita) so I have a feeling it wouldn't be worth it considering I have a moderate following on all those platforms and deserve more compensation than that...

>>9640792
That's weird, they didn't ask that of me. They only expected a post on Tumblr with no real specifications. Maybe they are getting more ambitious since other people are doing the bare minimum.

>>9640792
You're not going to find negative reviews because they worked hard to ensure you wouldn't.

I just stopped working full time and started attending school again
But now that I have the ability to wear lolita regularly I always feel way too ugly to wear it.
my face doesn't match the clothes.
when Going out i have enough time to put on makeup, and style wig/ do my hair, so i feel fine wearing lolita, but i don't have enough time before class to do all this stuff.
also doesn't help I have curly hair so I can't style it everyday.

>tldr- I look too ugly to wear Lolita causally
Does anyone else feel this way?

>>9640816
Learn cute updos anon. And maybe throw on some mascara or something even if it's in the bathroom before/between class. I'm sure you're being too hard on yourself.

>>9640792
that's weird that they're asking a lot of you. they just asked me to post photos of myself in the dress and mention a coupon code, the rest was up to me.

i'll be honest, my experience with them was okay. however, my deadline was a little over a month and halfway into the deadline i got a vaguely foreboding email from Mary about not posting anything. after i got that email i realized i might have made a mistake.

posted it in a hurry after receiving the email and nothing bad happened though. that email was just really offputting to me.

>>9639840
This looks like it was dry cleaned (please for the love of god don't dry clean screen prints)

>>9640816
Oh my god are you me?? I 100% feel you anon. That and I'm too lazy to put on a full outfit and makeup everyday,i feel like i look even worse with makeup one when i'm tired and look tired (yes,even if applied properly). I only ever wear makeup for lolita and occasions

>>9640799
So is it the same as the co.uk site or not? Sorry I'm really uninformed but I don't want to support scammers if I can help it.

>>9640797
>>9640824
They didn't even offer me a coupon code yet. My primary audience is not on YT but that was the platform they seemed most keen on. This kind of doesn't seem worth it even if I got an expensive Lolita dress that isn't super relevant to me just to get the most value for my "work"? If it was just IG, I'd take it. I still have over 10k there so idk why they don't want that and it's pretty simple.

anybody wanna gimme some pricing advice? jetj's le manoir du palais jsk in ecru. it's been sitting in my closet for years. the only listing i can find is the pink jsk + bolero for $560 from 2 years ago.

Kind of glad I'm seeing all this talk about screen prints and dry cleaning, I recently got a few months ago Twinkle Ornament and it's velveteen with a screen print. Was wronly assuming it was velvet, thank goodness I double checked. However, internet instructions are very unclear on the best way to wash velveteen and not ruin the pile, and also say it tends to have color run... If it ever gets dirty is the best route I suppose to quickly hand wash it very delicately? I'm so unsure how I should clean this down the line. Tag says handwash, but the pile/color/glitter concern me.

>>9640893
I had some glitter screen printed stuff from AP. Had practically no run off from it, so hopefully yours is the same!

>>9640727
Japonica can haggle but they won't haggle something that's unreasonable because that would be rude.

Thought I'd ask the gulls here in general, I know that petti discussions have occured since the beginning of time, but between Closet Child, Wunderwelt, and Me Likes Tea is there a clear superior winner with their bell shaped pettis? I've been needing to replace my old Classical Puppets one for ages, but looking around it looks like at least WW and Me Likes Tea have made a great product, haven't really heard about CC's. If they're all roughly as good as each other hey, that's cool, just thought I'd see what the petti status quo is these days.

>>9640727
people like you're the reason I can't buy the skirt set I want. some sellers ban the instant they think they're dealing with an ss. it sucks, thanks a lot.
be patient and save up.

>>9640230
>>9640231
the problem with many MMM prints is theyre not dry clean or water washable. powder dry cleaning chemicals are okay on them for the most part, as well as specialty drycleaning (petroleum or nonpetro i cant remember which, but its one of them)

>>9640953
what ss are you using, maybe you could try a differnt one?

>>9640953
Why would asking for a lower price make sellers think they're dealing with an ss? I'm sure Japanese buyers haggle too.

>>9640944
CC only sell A-line petticoats as far as I know. I'd go for WW if only because they're more readily available compared to MLT.

>>9640953
What if you went to a more expensive SS who is actually Japanese and knows this shit's not true

>>9640987
Thanks! Looks like I'm late to even ask about CC's anyways, I can't even find it on their website anymore. WW it is then, I've been meaning to pick some stuff up anyways.

Does anyone wear a printed headbow with a non-print/different print dress? For example, if they share motifs or color schemes. Would you do it?

>>9640883
It's the same as the co.uk site, and they still scam customers on their current site.

Does anyone know what happened to Star Glazed Delights? I put off buying her brandwhore pin for the longest time and when I finally decided to buy it her etsy was completely gone. Her social media pages haven't been updated for over a month either. I asked about it through FB but no response.

>>9641027
It's not unheard of, when OTT sweet was the main trend it was pretty common. I personally don't do it because I'm anal retentive about that sort of thing and think it looks a little strange, but that's up to personal preference.

>>9641033
Thank you for confirming! I will likely be turning it down.

>>9640892
Sell it to me for 10 USD

>>9641034
The domain is gone too. I wonder what's going on.

>>9641045
Oh that's sad, I was considering those too

>>9641050
There's a similar pin on etsy that says "brand bitch" if you really want it. I might get that instead, but it's just not the same...

Remember when people used to translate things

I'm making a page for lolita resources and basics, because there isn't anything like that in my language yet, but I need some help deciding on the categories. I'm not in any help groups so I don't know what new lolitas often need help with, I'll probably just use the handbook as a basis and update my translation to be more current.

What did you need help with when you were new?

This is what I've got so far, and I feel like it's too much, knowing people often lose interest because of information overload. I also don't want things to end up in two categories.

- Handy links (eg lolibrary, local comm)
- Basics of how to dress
- what are the different substyles
- Tutorials
- Scans
- Translations
- Budget shopping
- Main brands
- webshops
- Physical shops and places to visit
- Interviews
- People (eg designers, models)
- Artists (eg yoh, kira imai)

>>9639491
Agreed
It should have been Mortitia

>>9640944
I bought my bell from Aurora and Ariel on Tao after hearing a lot of people talk about them. I'm really pleased with it, great poof and really inexpensive.

>>9641027
As long as the colors match. I don't have a lot of non print dresses (maybe three and I have plain headwear for it) so I wouldn't but if you have the stuff, it would look okay

>>9641064
No. Just no.

>>9641034
Those pins are trashy anyways.
Also if you're going to wear a brand whore pin your coord better be all brand.

>>9641235
This. So many people claim to be, yet their shoes and blouse are offbrand.

>>9641083
Which language do yo speak?

>>9641292
It's always so disappointing to me when someone has a beautiful brand main piece but they coord it with a blouse that's clearly from Taobao, with cheap fabric, ugly non-matching lace and rushed finishing. It can be hidden in pictures to a certain extent but in person it just ruins the look. I think I'm the only person in my comm who consistently goes for brand blouses because no one else seems to see the point.

>>9641083
I think the most important thing is the basics of how to dress, which you've already got down. Everything else is nice but not absolutely necessary in my opinion.
As for your list, I think splitting it up into sub-categories would help keep the information from being too overwhelming. Something like:

- Looking the part
>basics of how to dress
>different substyles

- Tutorials

- Where/how to buy
>include a guide on shopping on secondhand websites/taobao
>budget shopping
>main brands
>web/physical shops

- Lolita media
>scans
>translations
>interviews

- People of note
>designers, models, artists, etc
>interviews could probably go here too

- Handy links

How much are secondhand moitie blouses worth on the Western secondhand market? I feel like they never sell on lacemarket.

>>9641451
try the fb sales group specifically for MMM

Some random guy who seems to have nothing to do with lolita posted this on RC.
I don't know if he's just retarded and can't spell or if it was a poor attempt at baiting. Probably the latter

>>9641462
I'm not looking to sell, I just noticed that I keep seeing the same blouses and cutsews on LM as I obsessively check Moitie sales everywhere every day.

>>9641467
Fellow members keep adding (silly) options.
And the comment section is full of "i'm done" and "bait" gifs. Apparently he's creeping on several comms

>>9641467
I don't understand why so many people voted for an incomprehensible sentence

>>9641473
Aaaand mod closed it. Apparently the comments included "personal attacks". Why are mods so sensitive? This shit group is becoming more and more of a hugbox

>>9641467
He's not some random guy, he's a horrible guy that got booted out of TPC for being rude

>>9641496
Deets?

>>9641503
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He was rude and gave unnecessary, unwanted crit about the photography at DMC, people told him to shut up and he wouldn't, just kept digging himself further and further into a hole and wouldn't listen when people said his opinion wasn't wanted. Is well known for being creepy and negative any time he comes to an event.

>>9641467
Is this the same guy as the one who's been pretending to be a 14yr old being forced to dress up by his mom who's been messaging people?

>>9641034
Maybe they were closed online for summer convention season?

>>9641515
No, Newsum can barely type coherently

>>9641292
tfw I can never claim to be a brandwhore because size 9.5/10 feet and can only wear AP LL teaparties for photo shoots or to tea.

>>9641480
That's fucking hilarious

Joanns is selling macaron print leggings for anyone who wants some kawaii jammies

>>9641520
There's a pair on lacemarket that claims to be 26.5. Seeing them makes me mad because I'm hunting for that color, but they are way too big.

>>9641572
what brand? I only see knock offs. It has to be a typo, if so. Japanese shoes almost never go above 25.5. Im generally a 26. Do you mean the CCF shoes or the meta that are listed under 25.5?

>>9640207
nah I've literally been wearing lolita since 2008. I've never had much disposable income before now so I've never cared about lucky packs, since it made more sense to just buy the pieces I wanted instead of taking any chances. And as >>9640356 said, I seriously doubted anyone in the dumb questions thread would have an answer.

Stay salty.

>>9641599
You must have some serious learning disability yo have stuck around for so long without being able to pick up on common knowledge/sources.

>>9641604
Considering only one person has given even a vague answer about lucky pack timing, I don't think it's "common knowledge" at all? And what sources are you referring to? I've checked the brand website and twitter and see no information, which makes sense since from what I remember, lucky packs generally aren't announced until a few weeks before at most.

>>9641626
No one is answering because it's a stupid fucking question, and there's a thread for that.

>>9641629
Pretty much this + the fact you very obviously lied. Let's say you had been in the fashion that long and genuinely didn't know, you would still know to use the dumb questions thread. The only logical conclusion is you are new and lied about it.

>>9641399
Posts like this are really hilarious since a lot of the laces that brands use are the same as the ones from taobao.
But brandwhores being delusional, what's new.

>>9641632
nayrt but honestly you're just making it seem like you don't know the information and just want to shame someone else for not knowing? bc obviously it would be way easier to have just answered the question than to type all this elaborate shaming. plus anon gave a pretty believable reason for not knowing.

>>9641649
Please read

>>9641629
And stop being delusional.

>>9641632
fuck off anon. I have been in this fashion since the early 2000's and I don't have a clue about lucky pack release dates OR where to find that shit out either.

You are just being a bitch, I am guessing because you only just got into this fashion and want to have a bit of a power trip over it. I have seen it a thousand times and can practically smell the newbness emanating from my screen. I bet anything you look and dress exactly like you sound too, brand pieces coorded with mismatched "lolitable" items from target, a closet filled with expensive rare jsks and OP's that have no rhyme or reason as to style or color. I bet you don't even own a real pair of lolita shoes, but rather take cheap roses and lace and glue it on some walmart flats. Do you run a facebook page for the "real" lolita's in your comm, and every single member not only dresses better than you, but actually low key resents your presence because you act so smug without having any style to justify it? Yeah, I bet so.

Sorry hun, you are not special nor smart. Just a bitch who knows nothing.

>>9641657
Wow, you couldn't be any more salty if you tried.

>>9641657
Shhh, it's okay anon. deep breaths.

>>9641657
Delicious new pasta

>>9641657
>I’ll have some pasta
>Extra salty please

>>9641667
>>9641670
>>9641678
>>9641681
Prove me wrong then. Salt or no salt the only "lolitas" that act like that are basic as fuck.

>>9641583
The AP tea parties in mint. The seller claims to fit them at 26.5 cm.

>>9641639
Have you actually compared? The lace may be the "same" but when comparing it's obvious the tulle lace made to mimick is low grade and poorly cut with more knots and stray threads per meter.

>>9641727
Someone needs to put you in a time out, newfag.

I'm not a lolita (I'm from /aa/ general) but what's with lolitas fighting 24/7? Every time I look at these threads people just fight about who is a real lolita and who isn't. Is that all this community is? Do you guys really have nothing better to do?

>>9641739
If you make stupid claims, ask dumb questions, and shit up the thread you'll get crucified no matter what board you're on, sorry.

>>9641737
>>9641755
It seems like you are getting angrier the more I describe you. How many "loiliable" cardigans did you buy off amazon this month anon? I bet your super original witch coord for october is going to be something really special. Did the black and purple striped tights come in yet?

>>9641773
Please stop projecting so hard. It's embarassing. All this over being called out for lying.

>>9641739
It's pretty much just newbs getting upset when they aren't considered cool for witholding information in an attempt to be snobby. Even when cgl was a pink board and lolita was practically laughed out people were not this bitchy and predictable

>>9641776
Not even that same person anon. Have you updated your coord list on Facebook yet? You know, the album with a whole bunch of ita's making comments like "AMAZING DREAM LOLITA COSPLAY NYAA~"

>>9641780
>not even the same person!!!!!!!

lol sure jan. your "everyone but me must be a massive ita!!!!!!!!!!" mindset is really embarrassing. projecting some insecurities?

>>9641780
>not even the same person
>continues post by using the same cringy insults as before

I'm just sad for you at this point.

>>9641778
I'm sorry you got called out for being new anon but shitting up the general doesn't solve anything

>>9641788
>>9641794
I feel bad for your closet, there must be at least 5 stretched out dresses and a good 10 you are "waiting to lose weight for"

>>9641834
You realize you are proving us right with each projection filled post, don't you?

>>9641796
Well it isn't getting solved either way, but I AM having fun, so.

>>9641838
Am I? You still think I am the same person as above after all. Every time you reply only cements my assurance that you are just trying to validate yourself.

>>9641810
looks bad

>>9641810
I can't tell who these dresses were made for. They're finally in non-sack cuts but holy shit it's like staring at a magic eye poster.

>>9641810
Really liking the red colorway.

>>9641810

>>9641810
my eyes hurt

mfw I'm a newfag and was genuinely curious when lucky packs came out after anon asked and nobody gave an actual answer

>>9641872
Guaranteed release date is around new year's, sometimes the beginning of December. Sometimes brands will do a season-based one, sometimes IW will do a random oddments one whenever they feel like it, meta's done packs where it's just a pre-determined bundle that's super discounted and otherwise it's up to the individual to follow the brands they like on twitter or other social media to see if any are announced.

https://luckypacks.livejournal.com/
If you look at the different post dates, you'll notice that there's not much consistency. I ignored OP because I didn't have a response for the specific brands they were asking for, but since yours is more open-ended and you admit to being new, I can actually answer that.

>>9641872
Ask in the dumb questions thread where stuff like this belongs instead of the general and you should get an actual answer that doesn't devolve into meaningless shitposting. It's what anon should have done to begin with.

>>9641872
Pretty much every brand: Winter/New Year's

Some brands also release other packs throughout the year.

Baby/AATP: Small "Happy packs" are released aapproximately every season.

Innocent World: "Oddment packs" at different pricing tiers are sometimes released in spring or autumn. They contain items with small defects. This year, they also sold lucky packs with sample items.

VM: They usually release a midyear happy pack.

>>9641739
There are a lot of guys here role-playing as lolita. It's really easy once you've found the lj comms and get accepted in some Facebook groups. Actually, you don't even need that.

>>9641872
That's because they don't know. I ask every year because >>9640356 is right. But I ask in my comm because on cgl people just seem to know about AP and IW. I also follow the twitter accounts of my fave brands and sign up for their newsletter.

>>9641872
That's because they don't know. I ask every year because >>964035 is right. But I ask in my comm because on cgl people just seem to know about AP and IW. I also follow the twitter accounts of my fave brands and sign up for their newsletter.

>"Do AP and Meta have Halloween LP this year?"
>Gets called a liar
>Is told to go to the dumb questions thread
>"When do LP come out?"
>Is new
>Is asking a dumb question
>Gets several replies, none of them know about Halloween LP

>>9641810
Reminds me of that shitty bodyline clock dress

>>9641872
Meta does LPs every summer and New Years, and usually a happy pack with an exclusive print. This year they did a summer print as well.

AP does the new year happy packs, and true lucky packs only come out once in a while and usually for special instore events.

I've only seen h.naoto do Halloween LPs.

>>9641639
The majority of brands make sure to colour-match lace whereas Taobao shops are happy to slap white lace onto a beige blouse and call it a day. It's always really obvious when a blouse is from Taobao vs. Japanese brand. Usually you can tell from the stock pictures but if they're clever they edit those to make it less obvious.

>>9641657
You just perfectly described several people in my comm. None of them are fat, but by golly they're annoying.

>>9641810
Ew

>>9641399
I feel you, anon. I'm not a strict brandwhore, and for things like shoes and legwear I usually prefer Taobao/offbrand, but blouses really fucking matter. The one Taobao blouse I have I got as a gift and I barely ever wear it because it's just a lot less nice than my brand blouses. Even getting Taobao main pieces I think is excusable, because if you really like a print or design and it's not available elsewhere then it's better to get a slightly low quality version than nothing at all. But yes to brand blouses forever (I especially like IW)

>>9641470
so youve never heard of a WTB post? you can make those in the fb group js

>>9642022
>This much reaching

>>9641810
Looks like melty chocolate and chess chocolate had a baby. It looks bad but at least not as bad as the previous valentine's day disaster

>>9640980
Japanese sellers are really touchy in general. It's considered rude to haggle on YAJ and Mbok. They also don't want to deal with SS because most times they're foreigners. Foreigners = deadbeat buyers that wont pay and could possibly ask them questions in English. It's easier for them to block and move on.

>>9641732
Nope, it's literally the same. Pretty funny when people try to reach this hard when they clearly haven't compared it themselves.

>>9642005
Yea, no, this is a gross exaggeration. Hardly any decent lolita taobao shops do this, only the run of the mill shops that sell the generic designs for 97 yuan do this. Stop bullshitting.

>>9641810
Jesus I don't remember the last time AP had a good print.

>>9639965
I agree, don't really care to see 10 shots of the author's coord and face

>>9642005
Look at APs new black x wine Lace dress and take a good look at the lace at the end of the sleeves and say that again. Brands make mistakes like those as well, same with some Taobao brands. But not all Taobao brands are bad.

>>9641810
This isn't too horrible..

>32,184Y
I take that back. For the clusterfuck of chocolate and chess this is, I wouldn't pay that much even though I love both chocolate and chess board patterns.

>>9641981
No shit Sherlock

gulls, where do you get your cheap china glasses? I need a second pair to fuck about with/coord match, and I'm not ready to drop several hundred on that. don't care about fancy lens coatings or anything like that, just need the ability to pick different strengths for different eyes.

>>9642105
Zenni optical is as cheap as you're going to get if you need prescription.

>>9642109
holy shit, if I'm reading this right it's just a tenner for shipping even though I'm an euro. thanks anon, this is exactly what I was after

>>9642052
I own many blouses by IW and Dear Celine and the difference is clear enough that even my parents, who have no interest in fashion, can tell which are which.

>>9642112
sure sweetie, i'm sure they stand up and clap for you every time you enter the room, too

>>9642050
In my experience it's fine to haggle on y!a, whereas on LM they will whine about "lowball" offers.

>>9642085
AP is the worst Japanese brand desu

>>9640892
Eh, this has never been particularly popular. maybe you can sell the JSK for $150 if you are lucky. The market is so oversaturated with solids and prints alike nowadays

>>9641887
>>9641893
>>9641993
Thanks for the help anons!

>>9640944
>>9641128
I got my first A&A petti too. Cheaper than MLT, but the underlayer is kinda scratchy and the organza is much less soft than MLT. If this doesn't bother someone though, it is a great cheap alternative.

>>9641657
Kek but in all seriousness I agree, I've been in lolita four years and lost out on numerous LPs but still have no idea other than checking the brands' sites when they come out (other than fall, spring, New year's in general)

>>9641887
I thought oddments were always spring and the LP was fall? At least the past few years. I'm pissed at IW though, everything I ordered this year sold out. I did the questionnaire for Astronomical Clock and still got a rejection email.

>>9639489
Lel
Reddit is here

>>9642052
>Pretty funny when people try to reach this hard when they clearly haven't compared it themselves.
What? I have that's why I said that. All taobao isn't the same, so maybe you got lucky with one piece.

>>9641480
>>9641473
I kind of want a Cards Against Humanity pack with these responses

>>9642203
Or maybe you got a bad piece? Dozens of stores sell the lace on taobao and it's pretty consistent throughout most brands since they're likely all from the same factory.

>>9640953
Japonica has successfully haggled for me many times. I see it all the time in comment sections! One item even had 2 deadbeat buyers.

>>9642211
With the logo and everything?

>>9642122
To be fair to people complaining about lowball offers, I've been selling for a long time and the only offers I get are insultingly low. For example just recently I had a popular dress that usually goes for $300 already underpriced at $225 because I like to just get rid of my items ASAP and someone gave me an offer of $125.

If this is the wrong thread for this ignore me but,
what does it mean when the add to cart button on Angelic Pretty Official's website has turned grey?
Is there a way to still buy the item?

>>9642292
I think it means they still have some stuff in their storefronts.
In any case, you can still buy them with a ss (because it's COD only).

>>9642293
Thanks anon!

>>9642292
Why are there so many newfags lately? First about the lucky packs and now this? This is basic stuff.

>>9642211
No, I bought the lace from taobao from laces.taobao.com. Is there a better lace shop that exists?

>>9641730
i must be blind because i only see two that say size M unless someone stupidly bought them.

>>9642300
God forbid people ask questions, amirite?

>>9642336
We have an entire thread dedicated for newfags to ask their questions in so they don't shit up the general so...

>>9642333
Yeah, sorry anon. Someone bought them yesterday.
>https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/angelic-pretty-tea-party-shoes-ll-25-16-cm-in-mint

>>9642336
You must be one of the newfags anon was talking about.

>>9642180
Probably? It seems like their release schedule's been sort of odd this year, so you're likely right about it being that way in previous years. I don't even remember if an oddment pack was done this year.

Would it be reasonable to call out a seller in the FB sales comm? She's posted there before and has posted to her personal page recently.

I bought a pretty rare/expensive item from her on Lacemarket and she stopped responding after I completed the payment plan. She had tons of good feedback so I don't think she's a scammer but today I noticed someone else left her negative feedback for the same reason.

>>9642364
By call out, I mean tag her name and see if I can get her to respond. I just want my damn Teddy Motors.

>>9642364
>>9642366
If she's totally unresponsive I don't see why that would be unreasonable, unless you prefer to get a mod involved instead.

>>9642342
strange that she would say they fit her unless she converted her feet size wrong or something....

Actually those look like replicas. The back shouldn't have a seem but instead two lines for the loop of the ankle strap. And the imprint on the sole has been a bow for at least 5 years. (unless they changed it one year because my pair is at least from 2012)

>>9642364 Have you contacted her on Facebook?

>>9642412
new thread.

>>9642052
nayrt, but the lace from laces.taobao at least isn't the same. I know that some higher-end taobao brands source their lace from Japan though (I think yolanda has done it before), so I'd be interested to see the lace on other taobao pieces that are the same as brand.

>>9642300
>>9642340
>>9642344
please reference the second paragraph of this post >>9641657

Oh man, I love Reddit and Normie!

>>9639430
/thread

>>9642032
what? i was being sarcastic lol. youre allowed to make want to buy posts there

>>9644029
There are several WTB posts in the moitie group, js

>>9644189
yes anon, i was telling them that the moitie fb is a good place to buy it